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Speaker 2: We appreciate everyone coming out tonight. Tonight we got a

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Speaker 2: really special guest man, someone that is from the same

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Speaker 2: area as Jack, but just someone who really when I

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Speaker 2: was ten eleven years old, like he was on TV

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Speaker 2: and he made it seem bigger than life back then,

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Speaker 2: and to go on and see the career he had

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Speaker 2: in the NBA and now he's back working with the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: I've always been a huge.

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Speaker 4: Fan of him, one of my og somebody being from Texas,

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Speaker 4: somebody I looked up to. I mean, everybody know about

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Speaker 4: the UNLV run.

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Speaker 5: In those days.

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Speaker 4: You know how as a kid, if you watch college basketball,

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Speaker 4: you have to know about the running rebels, you know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and the culture they brought to the

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Speaker 4: game of basketball into shit all the youth in the hood,

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Speaker 4: you know, because there was a bunch of brothers doing

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Speaker 4: the day way you know what I'm saying, sewing it

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Speaker 4: that we can get it done. So we all looked

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Speaker 4: up to him, so it's the honor to have him

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Speaker 4: at today.

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Speaker 3: Further Ado, Man, welcome to stage.

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Speaker 5: Larry Johnson, appreciate that in New York. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I see some big l's. I see some big l h.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the world is a better place when

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Speaker 2: the Knicks have a good basketball team. I just feel

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Speaker 2: like the energy is different, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm happy. I'm genuinely happy for y'all. Like when

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Speaker 2: New York, when the Knicks are good, it's a better NBA.

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Speaker 4: I want to give a shout out to a high

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Speaker 4: school kid that's playing basketball, was battling Chemo.

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Speaker 5: His name is Johnny, and he's here right now.

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Speaker 3: Are you at Johnny?

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Speaker 5: Shout out to my boy Johnny. We appreciate you being

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Speaker 5: here much love. Bro. We appreciate you Bro.

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Speaker 2: And uh Mail and his stream male's team. This is

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Speaker 2: one of the top What are you a sophomore now

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Speaker 2: junior juniors in the country.

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Speaker 3: Man explosive.

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Speaker 2: I've I've been a fan of I've been a fan

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Speaker 2: of him for a long time. Man, So his squad

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Speaker 2: came out, so we appreciate you guys coming out. Tomorrow's

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Speaker 2: our five year in Terresting. It's great we get to

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Speaker 2: spend it with you guys. We're really excited to be

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Speaker 2: here in New York and have the guests we have.

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Speaker 2: But without let's get it Jack, let's get it going.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, look check this out.

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Speaker 4: First off, being a basketball player from Texas, I'm honored

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Speaker 4: to have you on the show because, you know not

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Speaker 4: it's not many that we can look up to and

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Speaker 4: say they made it and did it they way, you know,

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Speaker 4: being being from the areas that we come from, people

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Speaker 4: always say you got to look a certain way to

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Speaker 4: where you want to be in life. And y'all showed

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Speaker 4: us different. Y'all did it y'all way, and y'all were

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Speaker 4: success for doing it. Today looking at the UNLV and

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Speaker 4: the run you had, how does it feel today knowing

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Speaker 4: that you had a big, a big part in history

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Speaker 5: I mean, it makes you feel good. I mean when

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Speaker 5: if we took it to another level, man, then you

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Speaker 5: casts taking it to another level. So I'm gonna give

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Speaker 5: you flowers while you're here, man, and thank you for

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Speaker 5: having me on New York. Thank you for coming out.

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Speaker 5: But coming from where we come from, like you said,

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Speaker 5: and then you spoke about Texas, we got to stick

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Speaker 5: when one of us do do what we do, we

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Speaker 5: know about each other. I've been knowing about Jack. He's

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Speaker 5: he's from Texas, like I said, part off the so

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Speaker 5: which has been a hell of a basketball school for

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Speaker 5: you can appreciate it more because all we was doing

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Speaker 5: And I've even heard Webbers said I don't know if

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Speaker 5: y'all say, y'all have Webber coming on, but I have

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Speaker 5: So you know that just and at the time, I'm

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Speaker 5: youngsters like that, that's what you're supposed to do. You're

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Speaker 3: Before we go there, we go further the us LV.

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Speaker 3: Let's go back to Dallas, Texas.

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Speaker 4: Dallas o'cliffe, how was it growing up in Dallas Oakcliffe?

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Speaker 5: Well, I grew up in Sath Dallas Dixon Circle Tell Talls. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know Cliff and Sath Dallas. You know, we didn't

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Speaker 5: school stuff. So I grew up Staff Dallas played I

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Speaker 5: was Skyline High School. Nor if you know Skyline High School.

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Speaker 5: My coach is really who taught me how to play

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Speaker 5: the game. Man, My high school coach, JD. Mayo. Shout

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Speaker 5: out to you, Coach Mayo. About fifteen years after I left,

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Speaker 5: he got national High School Coach of the Year. So CJ. Miles,

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Speaker 5: you know, didn't have a father, so almost every coach

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Speaker 5: So this dude really took me to the next level.

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Speaker 5: When I tell everybody all the time, when I left

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Speaker 5: I was on varsity for four years and we never wanted,

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Speaker 4: Me and you got similar sat stories.

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Speaker 5: No, we don't, we don't. I'll tell my story.

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Speaker 3: What was your essay story?

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Speaker 5: Stuff? Okay, this is how mine went, Matt.

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Speaker 4: I was supposed to go to University of Arizona, right,

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Speaker 4: and I you know, I'm just not good at certain things, and.

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Speaker 5: That's one of them.

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Speaker 4: School being one of them, right, and definitely being told

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Speaker 5: But Arizona knew that.

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Speaker 3: So it was like, hey, we'll set it up.

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Speaker 4: Well, you can take the test at somebody house and

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Speaker 4: we'll have somebody there now me at that time, you know,

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Speaker 4: everybody wiped the police to me time.

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Speaker 5: So I didn't really know how to judge this guy

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Speaker 5: him to help me. Now, if it wasn't have been

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Speaker 5: a brother and now I have been like, yeah, you

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Speaker 5: kind of like let me I could slide you something maybe,

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Speaker 5: you know, maybe. But I had no idea that guy

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Speaker 3: How the dude sitting next to you to help you

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Speaker 5: And I didn't know it, and I ended up not.

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Speaker 3: Going to school because of it.

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Speaker 5: Damn shun word. That's how I feel now. But if

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Speaker 5: I were might, I should have told me man, I

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Speaker 5: didn't have I had no problem cheating, right, Can you

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Speaker 5: tell us your story? No, it's I don't have a

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Speaker 5: story like that. Over didn't go like that.

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Speaker 3: What's your SAT story going?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: I took the test the beginning of my senior year

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Speaker 5: and then come close to what I needed. So I studied,

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Speaker 5: I didn't but yeah, I didn't do none of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you're right, what is that? What I got a big

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Speaker 5: So Robert Pye, I got a nice one. Robert Pye

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Speaker 5: was the incoming president and he was coming from Duke University,

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Speaker 5: and he called me and my high school coaching office,

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Speaker 5: can't do the work here. Now that last part could

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Speaker 5: last part could have been true. But he didn't accept

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Speaker 5: their safety score and they wouldn't accept me as what

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Speaker 5: was the reason. He said I made a jump. They

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Speaker 4: Had, I would have had the issue too because my

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Speaker 4: previous scores was just my name, right, So if I'd asked.

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Speaker 5: The dude for that, if I would have do something. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: So I did, right. I saved myself some drama.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's a college are you talking about the time

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Speaker 4: of That's a college of ju called Pipeline.

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Speaker 2: You went to the Yep, I went to people a

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Speaker 2: lot of talent. Really, I went to Blend for two weeks. Man,

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Speaker 2: you went to Blend for two weeks two weeks. Couldn't

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Speaker 2: handle Look what you mean you couldn't hand it?

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Speaker 5: I couldn't handle it. What the Texas?

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Speaker 4: What you mean you couldn't I had more. I had

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Speaker 4: that was that was the step back for I fail

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Speaker 5: You know, I went for two years and he right

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Speaker 5: ju coo gladiated ball. He right about that. I remember

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Speaker 5: I got in two fights in Juco. One of them

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Speaker 5: they sent me to the bench, send him to the bench,

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Speaker 5: and the next time out we can go back in.

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Speaker 5: I got into another one. They sent us to the

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Speaker 5: He right about that. And then the travel you know

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Speaker 5: you Sharon Bath. Yeah, four dudes, five dudes. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: see what you said. But I stuck it out for

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Speaker 5: four years, never won anything. Yeah, but I got a

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Speaker 5: junior cote player in your two years in a row,

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Speaker 5: freshman and the sophomore year. Yeah, we never won anything,

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Speaker 5: But I ended up there because of my high school.

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Speaker 5: High school teammate, I had dude named Tony Jackson. Shout

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Speaker 5: out to juw Jack. I know he's watching. But Tony

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Speaker 5: Jackson was going to o Delsa junior college and he

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Speaker 5: was the number two player Dallas and I've number one

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Speaker 5: So Jack went to Odessa and I woke up one

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Speaker 5: morning and it was Odelsa junior college coach in my house,

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Speaker 5: sleeping in macau, sleeping on my cap. Huda is this

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Speaker 5: dude man? And my mom had already told Jack to

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Speaker 5: So he came and got me. After this dude then

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Speaker 3: They got black, they got what you're gonna call from

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Speaker 3: That was after that was before you though, right, was

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Speaker 5: No, that was before me, Like two years before me. Dude,

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Speaker 5: that's why they brought niggas. Bring in this new president,

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Speaker 5: that used to come. So I'm like, no, coach, let

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Speaker 5: And Cat looked me in my face and said, man,

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Speaker 5: think you can do the work. Here. Here come Junior garb.

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Speaker 2: So from a small town in West Texas to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Hold are you putting pictures of Oh that's a nice

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Speaker 5: Shout out. Yeah, cut it out, cut it out, man,

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Speaker 3: Oh bro, that was cold.

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Speaker 5: What it's like you first, that's one of my coldest posters, man,

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Speaker 2: And that's what I mean him, I mean and the

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Speaker 2: like you said, you guys have something called Gucci role

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Speaker 3: What was the life like?

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Speaker 2: Obviously incredible team, but what was just the as a

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Speaker 3: What was that like for you?

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Speaker 5: I tell people this all the time, and Audi, I

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Speaker 5: You're talking about some college dudes in Vegas who's at

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Speaker 2: Bigger than anything else, though, like for you guys to

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Speaker 3: They were the biggest team. And like that you turned

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Speaker 5: And when I get that question, I know you. I

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Speaker 3: It's yeah, we's pushing hand.

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Speaker 2: So first and foremost, that happened, that happened, That happens,

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Speaker 5: But with them two dudes were squares. Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: Listen to them.

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Speaker 5: Them to squares in college. Then't drink then smoke, just

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Speaker 5: I tell you two would have loved it because we

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Speaker 5: I'm proud of. And I tell I said all the

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Speaker 5: I had access to at least four gym twenty four seven.

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Speaker 5: Always hoop, always what about anything else?

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Speaker 2: Like obviously, now the nil situation has come about and

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Speaker 2: Back then weren't you that was so well, wasn't you? Man?

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Speaker 3: That's what I that's what I want to hear. But

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: I want to talk.

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Speaker 5: I want to talk that you know what. I can

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Speaker 5: give you the real But I'm just stitching on myself.

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Speaker 2: It's okay because it's it's not and it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's not.

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Speaker 5: If you're not incriminating nobody, you're good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you might be incriminating yourself, but you be all right,

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Speaker 2: Oh that's that's not No, nobody's gonna get in trouble jail.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well I'm gonna tell the truth. Then, No, it's

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Speaker 5: the truth. It's the truth. It's the truth. It's Look.

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Speaker 5: Look what's happening. Good everywhere you good?

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Speaker 2: Look story.

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Speaker 5: The truth is watch. But it's the truth. I'm telling y'all,

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Speaker 5: it's the truth. I was cheating, but only I was cheating.

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Speaker 5: I had a I had an uncle in Dallas. Tax Yeah,

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Speaker 5: paid for my court vett. He paid for my apartment.

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Speaker 5: But I mean, obviously I got money a month. And

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Speaker 5: that's the honest to guard truth. His name is Alex

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Speaker 5: Mudd Gilliam mud gillim d called it mug Gill. He

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Speaker 5: played for the gold tried it for a while. He

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Speaker 5: was a motherfucker boy. He's not with us anymore. Shout out, Mud,

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Speaker 5: shout out, Bud. I tell you I would have took

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Speaker 5: that bag too, Mud. He took the bag. Now, he

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Speaker 5: you got my uncle, my uncle mug Gilling. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: yeah you and this yes, yes, it's my apartment right here,

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Speaker 5: my uncle, my uncle, Lord gil Well. And he stayed in.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: He stayed in the investigation too. But he had no

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Speaker 5: me since I was. He was my coach, since I was,

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Speaker 5: watch what you say these days. Cut it out.

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Speaker 3: This is l J.

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Speaker 5: Cut it out, Cut it out, cut it out. He

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Speaker 5: was my coach, and he was everybody coach. So he

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Speaker 5: was just he was a basketball He coached at bout

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Speaker 5: five high schools in Dallas. Texts he coached all black

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Speaker 5: high school in Dallastics. Alex mug gillen uh and if

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Speaker 5: you knew if if you was going anywhere, like if

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Speaker 5: you going to Miami to play football, We got some

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Speaker 5: you go through mud Guillen. If you were going here

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Speaker 5: to run track, you go through mud Gillen. If you

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Speaker 5: were going to play volleyball, you go through mud guiller

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Speaker 5: and you know, you go get perks.

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Speaker 2: Now it's normal, but had nothing to do with you.

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Speaker 2: Back then, y'all was really risking something though, like really

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Speaker 2: risking something. I mean, you got him just in general,

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Speaker 2: just getting getting a little bit of help. Like I said,

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Speaker 5: Back then, you were taking a real chance. Well it

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Speaker 5: was investigating. I mean again, I was only there for

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Speaker 5: and I had to talk to these people. Man, they

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Speaker 5: this is the BS. They was doing the coach talk.

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Speaker 5: They just wanted to get coach talk because he was

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Speaker 5: sawing them. I went to practice, and you don't supposed

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Speaker 5: So one of the assistant coach was gonna make camp

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Speaker 5: play cleek cleek clear ever was he was our dude,

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Speaker 5: little brother, little old brother. Man, you can't play, you

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Speaker 5: can't play. It's supposed to be him. He can't play.

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Speaker 5: And we was on the side go. He was trying

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Speaker 5: When I was on I was looking for any reason, huh,

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Speaker 5: any reason anything. They put a camera up in our

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Speaker 3: Man, he wasn't on the same page as you guys either.

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Speaker 5: He wasn't on the same paper with Coach Talk because

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Speaker 5: he wanted Coach Talk to hang out with this crew

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Speaker 5: and Coach Talk hang He hung out with gangsters. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: East Castle was free. I mean, I'm a shout out

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Speaker 5: could play that motherfucker. He was ideal to Tony soprano.

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Speaker 5: Big No. He would come in to practice start and

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Speaker 5: this is what we had, these phones, right, fellas them

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Speaker 5: cussing motherfucking somebody out with a big old stoge in

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Speaker 5: And this is what you uh. The n C two

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Speaker 3: Period.

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Speaker 5: We had a towel and we took the town, big

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Speaker 5: make it like a ball, and that was our ball.

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Speaker 5: But it was just all defense with that. They was

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Speaker 5: didn't want you and l V to be the darlings

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Speaker 5: you know, like the Dukes now and all that coach

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Speaker 5: chalk was gonna build that, and they didn't want you

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Speaker 3: That's because it was a majority black. That's keep for real.

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Speaker 5: The only reason cast with their shirt tails out and

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Speaker 5: He ain't want that. All I do is was that.

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Speaker 5: All I do is was that man uh hunt knife

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Speaker 5: and we ain't gonna talk about your home. But that's

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Speaker 5: how I got the you and your elastic man. Yes, sir, sir, yes, sir.

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Speaker 5: Coach talk like to take credit. He recruited me. But

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Speaker 5: it was ice, you know when I went you know

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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, the deal.

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Speaker 2: So where did the gold tooth in the middle park

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Speaker 5: It was hard Souff Dallas Dixon Circle turb with Texas

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Speaker 5: best one. Gotta get your slug in Texas. That's look

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Speaker 5: at the part down in the middle of y'all. Okay, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 5: fuck cut it out, cut it out, cut it out.

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Speaker 5: Classic what skined of ship? Let's go anybody right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I've been there. No, No, that's a story behind that one.

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Speaker 5: Why that's the story behind that one. That's that good rayon.

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Speaker 5: That's a story behind.

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Speaker 2: If you gotta explain, let me explain real quick.

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Speaker 5: If you gotta explaining, I'm telling you.

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Speaker 4: If your niggas had a Rayon shirt where you back,

434
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 4: then it's just beautiful.

435
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 3: What is that?

436
00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 5: What listen, that's a bad motherfucker though. I'm talking about

437
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,720
Speaker 5: the motherfucker the shirt.

438
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 3: I was.

439
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 5: I think I just got drafted and I'm in the

440
00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 5: hotel and all I got is sweat. All I got

441
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 5: is Swiss everyone and they said they're knocked on to

442
00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 5: do it about seven in the morning, said man, you

443
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 5: gotta go take this. You gotta take this to go.

444
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,719
Speaker 5: I said, man, I ain't got nothing. If they can

445
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 5: show the geens, you really be laughing like a motherfucker. Dee.

446
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 5: Mother was like here that I got all of that,

447
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,959
Speaker 5: I got anything, you see? Said again, that's them doctors,

448
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 5: them J C. Penny Special.

449
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,000
Speaker 2: So you so you were showing your angles.

450
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 5: You see come from the gift shop, man, that kind

451
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 5: you from the I went down there and bought that.

452
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,080
Speaker 2: So you put that ship together, then if that's the game,

453
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:26,920
Speaker 2: you put that ship together.

454
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:32,199
Speaker 5: Ship. This one, though, this one I just really got

455
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 5: with fit and the shirt fit in the past. Then

456
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 5: that's all I had. It was either that of sweat,

457
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,960
Speaker 5: so they wouldn't let me go do sweats so stupid.

458
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 2: The inspiration from the Fab Five came from you. So

459
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 2: when you sit back now and obviously a successful college career,

460
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,719
Speaker 2: successful NBA career, do you ever sit back and kind

461
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: of be like, damn, like we really did kind of

462
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 2: shape a whole era of basketball.

463
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,160
Speaker 5: It's hitting me now, it's hitting me now. I didn't

464
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 5: it didn't. It don't really register for a minute because

465
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 5: you just you're still in the moment, You're still watching

466
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 5: ball or whatever. But the Fab Five, like you said,

467
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 5: and then we've been mentioning more and more. Now it's like, yo, man,

468
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 5: we did that. We did that, and it's just an

469
00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 5: honor privilege. I mean again, long as I can say

470
00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 5: I paved the road and made it better for the

471
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 5: next generation. I'm proud of that.

472
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 4: Nineteen ninety National championship. Talk about biggest blowout in the

473
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 4: NCAA title game history.

474
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 5: Talk about it. Did you hear the.

475
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,400
Speaker 4: Noise like the Black and White the robber? They tried

476
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 4: to make it between you and and do yes, yes,

477
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 4: it was good versus evil. You know it was these

478
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 4: type titles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it were doing number five.

479
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: It wasn't number five, thank you. That's and yeah, I'm

480
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 4: just gonna stay on ninety. But I could have went

481
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 4: into the next one.

482
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 5: But it was fire. Yeah. We were just hungry, man.

483
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 5: We was home. I want to smoke. Yeah, it is.

484
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: But this is the time where you don't have podcasts,

485
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: you don't have social media to really speak your side.

486
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 3: So you said you was about to go there. How

487
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: did that make you feel?

488
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: Because that shit is tough when they paint you one

489
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: way and and and paint someone else the other way.

490
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,920
Speaker 2: But as a man, we can understand. But you guys

491
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: are still in your young late teens, young early twenties.

492
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 5: Well what's subtled me now? Because it was the nerves?

493
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 5: Was there? The nerves was their first one up playing

494
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 5: in championship. First year at un l VN. We were

495
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 5: and people don't know this, we was picking number one

496
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 5: at the beginning of the year. We dropped like three

497
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 5: or four. Ear shot got us, shock got us with

498
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 5: our Stacy and the LSU.

499
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 2: But so there was something behind that story though, But

500
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't Stacey like pulled off a plane so

501
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: talk to us so for.

502
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 5: For a phone bill the year before when they was

503
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 5: in Hawaii usually in uh college. I don't know if

504
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 5: they did it when you when you guys had they

505
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 5: would cut our phone off for every time you went

506
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,959
Speaker 5: on the road and cut the phone off because if

507
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 5: if you have a bill, you gotta go pay it.

508
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 5: Of course we you know, we wouldn't do that. But

509
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 5: everybody had to sit out a game because of me.

510
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 5: I mean except me, because I wasn't on the team

511
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 5: the year before. No, I wasn't on the team. I

512
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 5: probably would have set out too because I'd have been

513
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 5: making calls. They was making calls back and forth, uh

514
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,400
Speaker 5: from you know, from Hawaii to they girls, and everybody

515
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 5: the next year had to sit out a game but me,

516
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 5: and they pulled stay huh.

517
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: So they got in trouble for using the phone.

518
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,879
Speaker 5: Yeah and yeah. And they pulled Stacy argument off the

519
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: plane while we was going to uh play Lsu told

520
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 5: him he couldn't play. They would just pick a random

521
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 5: player uh at whatever game, just whenever they wanted to. Yes, yes, crazy.

522
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 5: And they put put my roommate off the plane when

523
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 5: we was going over and I say, all the time,

524
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 5: we would have won. They one of the greatest UH

525
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 5: college game they ever played it. I remember the great

526
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 5: ones because we had three four pros. They had three

527
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 5: fourth That was h of Coase, Mick Mood, big shot,

528
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 5: and what's the big fellow Stanley Roberts, Stanley Robbers Yeah

529
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 5: so nice, yeah yeah, and that and they won that game,

530
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 5: and like the last three, it went back and forth

531
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 5: the whole game. My mom was at that game too.

532
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 5: They drove up. I think what were l s U.

533
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 5: I think it was like four hour drive from Dallas.

534
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 2: If y'all would have bro y'all would have won. Y'all

535
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: would have won the game with we.

536
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 5: Were wanted with ice. I tell you why my mood

537
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 5: killed us. I had shout out to Greg Aainst and

538
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 5: won the greatest best college point guard I ever played with,

539
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 5: I ever played with. And we started the game. In

540
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 5: the first five minutes we balling, both teams balling, and

541
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 5: Greg got tired. Shout out to Greg, but Mike moved.

542
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 5: Listen said, Greg got tired. Greg got tired and needed

543
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 5: a break. And when he took a break, I think

544
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 5: my mood had like three four points. He took a

545
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,959
Speaker 5: break and he was out about two minutes. He when

546
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 5: he came back in, he had like twenty He just

547
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 5: went on and one jack three and one and won three.

548
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 5: And by the time he threw Greg again, he's too hot.

549
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 5: He threw him back hand. It was too Now. The

550
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 5: reason I said we the one with Ice is because

551
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 5: everybody know, I don't know if you know, Stacey won

552
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 5: College Defensive Player of the Year.

553
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 3: Two nine seven ft wingspan right, yeah.

554
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 5: And whenever anybody on the perimeter used to get the toastingers,

555
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 5: Greg couldn't handle a hunt, couldn't hand Hey, Ice.

556
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: Do this, do this?

557
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 5: Do this right here? Yeah, this dude right here and

558
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 5: here to put Greg on my mood, I mean to

559
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 5: put Ice on my mood. And I mean it's a

560
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 5: different look, six y nine long, it's a different look.

561
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 6: Yeah.

562
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, I believe we'd won that game if Ice

563
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 5: would have played.

564
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 3: In ninety one final four.

565
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 4: Y'all started thirty four, I know, before losing the Duke

566
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 4: grand Hill Barba Harley, Christian Layman talk about that.

567
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 5: Shout out to Duke.

568
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: No.

569
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 5: I played in it. I played in it, you know,

570
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 5: And the only thing I can say about it, I

571
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 5: say this all the time I lost the game. I

572
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 5: lost the game, and I say it's a greg Ain't

573
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: go bullshit Ice and everybody go bullshit. Now we did this,

574
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 5: we did that. But being the number one playing college

575
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 5: that year, everyone here, all the Sumore, I lost the game.

576
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 5: I didn't play hard. I was out there Ladlergagon, you know,

577
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 5: on seventy eighty percent, thinking we're playing somebody just beat

578
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 5: about thirty the year before. But it was closed the

579
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 5: whole game, and I wasn't. It wasn't with me. Were

580
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 5: up four, we up five, then they're tied up. We go,

581
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: we going that little run again. But I was loud again.

582
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 5: I was thinking about the league. Yeah, man, I said

583
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 5: this before. I'm not snitching him. I said this before.

584
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 5: I always say I lost that game. And at the end,

585
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 5: when I anybody else saw the end of that game,

586
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 5: I know you two did right. Should I shot the ball? Absolutely?

587
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 5: I should have shot the ball. Show point out, he's

588
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 5: gonna send five men to the boards. Larry Johnson brings

589
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: the ball up, looks like he wants to go all

590
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 5: the way with it.

591
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 2: He's outside now, stopping his trouble.

592
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 5: Later on him Hunt will have to do something great.

593
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: Hurley's coast up.

594
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 3: I never heard that.

595
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 5: I shout I should have shot at the bar. Choke

596
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 5: say that all the time.

597
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about you touched on it earlier,

598
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: but just Tark versus the world, the mentality of the team.

599
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: What kind of dude Tark was, How he captivated people

600
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: just like you guys did as a team, and just

601
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: how good you obviously his wife and everything.

602
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: How good was he to you guys?

603
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 5: Again, you're talking to someone who never met his father.

604
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 5: So every coach was almost like, that's who's telling me

605
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 5: what to do day in and day out, right, So

606
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: as a man, so he was that and me and

607
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 5: coach was real close. And I know people saying, yeah,

608
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 5: he was a number one player on the team, but

609
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 5: it don't matter who you are. When you see the

610
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 5: way he treated people and treated you, that's what a

611
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 5: respect comes in. Because he was bigger than we was. Now,

612
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 5: now we were some bad motherfuckers and everybody loved the team,

613
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 5: but coach talk was an outcome. You got to remember

614
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 5: to everyone. Now, you guys, what the Raiders there? You

615
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 5: got the girls team there, you got that bad as

616
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 5: hockey team there, right, forget about it. When we was

617
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 5: at UNLV. There was no professional team nowhere. It was

618
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: just that in college right there. And that basketball team.

619
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: How important is it too, because we do have some

620
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 2: some high school kids and some college kids in that

621
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: just falling in love.

622
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 5: With the game.

623
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 2: Obviously you're in UNLV, and like you said, the world

624
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: was right there, but you really loved the game and

625
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 2: talked about being in the gym all the time.

626
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 5: How important was that aspect for you? It was very important?

627
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,719
Speaker 5: That's I mean, you know how when you love the game.

628
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 5: These youngsters know how it is. When you love it,

629
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 5: you don't never want to be away from it. And

630
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 5: I saw an opportunity to get my moms no matter

631
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 5: what we was in. You know, we all got that story,

632
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 5: you know how that is. I was that dude, so

633
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 5: and anybody again when you put up them two dude,

634
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 5: that was wilder up. There was two squares. It was

635
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 5: two squares. If it wasn't a female or gym or

636
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 5: now you know, you only want to get something neat man,

637
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 5: that's all we did. So if I if I had

638
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 5: a coach that was like is that was? That was

639
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 5: That's all the vision and it was gonna help me

640
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: with it.

641
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 4: Man, you know I took it drafted number one overall

642
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: to the Hornets nineteen ninety one. Shortly after that, Grandmama,

643
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 4: the character was born, old character.

644
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 5: Check this out, y'all. Check this out. I don't put

645
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 5: that ship up there. Check this out, yo. These are

646
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 5: my new shoes for Converse. They're so light and so fast.

647
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 5: My grandmama can whoop you on them. Grandma, let's go.

648
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: What you.

649
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 5: Remember. Can't beat what you can't catch, okay, Grannie, one

650
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 5: on one man, You now a lucky shot, Grandma. That

651
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 5: wasn't old lady who lived in a ship, a fresh

652
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 5: little crib. You never brand space for this killing time

653
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 5: and that shoe letter things that no man could do.

654
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 5: She duke said.

655
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: She cuts, she stopped staying at her track.

656
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 5: She said, she sparsly has chumps on their backs, and

657
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 5: who gets the credit? Some mother names you. Check you

658
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 5: out your Converse, of course, and that new react. Oh

659
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 5: y'all wrong for that ship, y'all wrong for putting it up,

660
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: y'all wrong for clapping so so so.

661
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: Tell us tell us the backstory behind that campaign and

662
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 4: explain the felled bird magic commercial that was supposed to happen.

663
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: Before you do that, real quick ever, But you got

664
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: to think that I'm gonna put in context for those

665
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: of you that may not have been around, so that

666
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: at the at the time, MJ and Spike Lee were

667
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: the only ones really commercials, right, they were the only

668
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 2: ones doing commercial You came through and sign the biggest

669
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: shoe deal from the history.

670
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: On top of that, signed the biggest.

671
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: NBA deal in history. So you was up there like

672
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: MJ was a ship, but LJ was coming.

673
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 5: Yeah.

674
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: So take us back through that time.

675
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how many people can really say that,

676
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 2: to take us back through that time and what it

677
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 2: was like.

678
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: And then Jack follow up with your.

679
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 5: Question, Well, I tied in Sonny Vacab. We talked about

680
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 5: him in the back. Anybody don't know Sonny viacav was

681
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 5: this big time looking Yeah.

682
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: He just did the movie Godfather.

683
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 5: Yeah the movie yeah, yeah, Godfather?

684
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: What was it?

685
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: What was the movie?

686
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 5: Air?

687
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: That movie is about? If you have ever seen it,

688
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 2: go watch that much shit was dope. But that's about

689
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: sonnyca Sonny Vicab.

690
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 5: We all knowing he was a UNLV rep, the Nike rep,

691
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 5: and I WoT Nike all through school, all through junior

692
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: colls Odessa. I was getting some Nikes.

693
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: I's getting some Nikes as you should.

694
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, had little facts and at UNLV, I want Nikes.

695
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 5: And like I said, Sonny was our cool dude. We

696
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 5: used to go to Sonny crib me and Stacey and

697
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 5: I got drafted number one. Uh. About two weeks later,

698
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 5: I see I think it was Billy On signed a

699
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 5: Nike contract. I said, oh, and Billy was drafted. Shout

700
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 5: out to Billy. He wast out to the Q. Billy

701
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 5: he was drafting number three and the Q's all Nike too.

702
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: So Billy signed like two weeks later after we was drafted,

703
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 5: and then I think Stacey signed. Then I think the

704
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 5: Kim Base sign. Shout out to the Kim baby man.

705
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: That hurt me. I was on the golf course. I stopped.

706
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 5: I stopped. I was on the golf course and I said,

707
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 5: I'm done rest in. Yeah, but I think the ken't signed.

708
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 5: I ain't think malloy, I ain't think of Kenny Son.

709
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 5: I don't think Kenny has signed. But he was number two.

710
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 5: So a month go by and I'm talking to my agent.

711
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 5: I'm going to say, man, what's Sonny saying about my contract?

712
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 5: What's Sonny saying? And my agent them already know, but

713
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 5: they don't want to tell me. They saying, but won't

714
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 5: you call Sonny? Won't you call Sonny? So I called

715
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 5: him and he just flat out to him. He said,

716
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 5: l J. Nike, you don't think you're gonna be a

717
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 5: good player. L J Nike, you don't think you're gonna

718
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 5: be a good pro. I said what I said, don't worry,

719
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 5: but say, I was a beast back there. Y'all can

720
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 5: do this bullshit. We put the other one up. I was,

721
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 5: I was there, you were for this. I was cool.

722
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 5: It been in Nike your whole life. Kind of hit

723
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 5: me like that a little bit, and then but we

724
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 5: brushed that off.

725
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: Cool.

726
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 5: Cool. And then as soon as I told my hey,

727
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: I said, say, man, say oh let's go. We got Converse.

728
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 5: Won't you come? Like it was a setup like Converse.

729
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, we're flying. And we flew from Dallas

730
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 5: to New York the next day. But Converse was in Connecticut,

731
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 5: and I think when we got like twenty miles from

732
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 5: Converse station, all these Larry Johnson Converse sign welcome to

733
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 5: I say, man, when they put this up.

734
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: The billboard, the billboards.

735
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 5: My sixth billboard man y'all. I feel like a setup,

736
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: feel like set up, feel like a motherfuck set up.

737
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 3: It felt good, though, felt good.

738
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 5: Because Converse for to give me the biggest conch shoe

739
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 5: count more than Mike at the time. I mean, the

740
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 5: next year Mike did what he did. But uh, but

741
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 5: at that time he set the standard. Yeah that right,

742
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 5: Michael like, Yeah, go do your thing, bro, do your thing.

743
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 5: Don't worry about I don't worry about.

744
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: Uh.

745
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 5: Did we hit the plant? We get in this plant,

746
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,439
Speaker 5: Converse plant. It's about two hundred, three hundred workers. They're

747
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 5: all doing giving it to me and giving it to

748
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 5: strokeing me like a mother. Larry Larry, Larry where And

749
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 5: we went into the and I signed that day.

750
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: Oh that is.

751
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 5: Is that what you're talking about? Man? Is that that

752
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 5: boy shit you talked about? That's you, that's you. Two

753
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:42,359
Speaker 5: hundred people what they doing they doing? People signed that day.

754
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 5: We're right in the office. We're gonna get your U

755
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 5: and we're gonna put you in the commercial. Told you

756
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 5: I gonna tied in there. They say, this is what

757
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 5: they say to me now, audience. They said we're gonna

758
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 5: uh dam, I can't think his name is gonna come

759
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 5: to me, this converse rep that's pitching this to me,

760
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 5: he said. And they had two young boys doing their

761
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 5: adver time they like twenty two twenty three white boys

762
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 5: hair down to here. They were doing like the uh

763
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 5: the air guitar. I said, oh shit, I'm in trouble.

764
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 5: They doing their guitar. And now while we were side

765
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: of this shit, and they say they over our marketing

766
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: and they gonna put you in a commercial. I said, okay,

767
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 5: what's the commercial? They said, The first commercial is we're

768
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 5: gonna put you on a gurney. We're gonna cover you

769
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 5: up and nobody can see you.

770
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, yeah.

771
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: They said it's gonna be two doctors, one gonna be

772
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 5: Magic Johnson and the other doctor gonna be Larry Bird.

773
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 5: And at the time, if you can't remember, they both

774
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 5: was in converse. They yeah, the one doctor Larry Bird,

775
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 5: one doctor Magic Johnson. And they going a scalpel, oh this, ah, that,

776
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 5: and they saying, ah, we finished, and they say the

777
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 5: perfect basketball player. And then one of them say well,

778
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 5: we got a name in and Larry say well, they

779
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: ain't gotta be Larry. Then Magic say no Johnson, Larry Johnson,

780
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 5: Larry Johnson, and I raise up. I raise up, miss,

781
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 5: and the commercial os off Larry Johnson. Larry. Then I

782
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 5: raise up and that's the end of the commercial.

783
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: Right that would have been cold. Sign me up.

784
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 5: God damn, that's crazy. They gave me a million signing bonus.

785
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 5: Month later, I bought my mom house with a million dollars.

786
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: So the million dollars gone, yeah, shout out doctor Johnson.

787
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 5: Month later, we come on, now, come on that, we're

788
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 5: out of there. Let's get something. Here's the million. A

789
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 5: month later we do that, so season stuff. They come

790
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 5: to me, you ready for the commercial? Yeah, I'm ready. Minute,

791
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 5: the fella's ready. And another something to that story is

792
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 5: one of them didn't want to do it. When I

793
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 5: got to the set to do the commercial. Now, I

794
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 5: ain't telling me nothing. I got to the set to

795
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 5: do the commercial. I walked into my trade big time program,

796
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 5: you know, like like in the movies. Everybody got it, Holly, Yes,

797
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 5: everybody got a trailer. Oh, this is my trailer. And

798
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 5: I see a dress a weig, I said, all listen

799
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 5: in the coner, I said, hmm, where is my wardrobe?

800
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 5: Bat I would do because I ain't bring none. They say,

801
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 5: you ain't got to bring nothing. And that's all I

802
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 5: see hanging up two or three dresses some wiz. I said,

803
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 5: come on, man, and they came. They said, Larry, we

804
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 5: want to They pitched this one to me. They pitched

805
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 5: this one to me. Now then signed the millia and

806
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 5: done and done. I said, what happened to the commercial

807
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 5: with me and Magic? And Larry said, one of them

808
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 5: didn't want to do it, one of them didn't want

809
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: to do it.

810
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: Wrong.

811
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 5: No, No, I never knew which one didn't want to

812
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: do it. I never knew which one of them didn't

813
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 5: want to do it. Larry was my Larry loved me.

814
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 5: Larry loved me.

815
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:45,439
Speaker 2: I ain't.

816
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 5: I never knew which one didn't want to do it.

817
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 5: Larry loved me. No, No, y'all getting what I'm saying, right,

818
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 5: ro No, No, I mean facts, y'all get what I'm saying.

819
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 5: Larry fuck with me. Okay, wait a minute, Larry fuck

820
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: with me. The first game against Larry and and Hunt

821
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 5: and Larry became cool. Sohn used to tell me that

822
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 5: Hunt was in Boston training. Came to the last cut,

823
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 5: to the last Anderson Hunt ladies and he was in

824
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 5: their training. Came to the last cut and their first

825
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 5: game was getting shot Charlotte and he was a proud

826
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: He said, man, Magic, I mean, Larry, we're going. This

827
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 5: is what I'm doing, your boy. This is what I'm

828
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 5: doing your boy. The first game and he gave it

829
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: to me. He gave it to me.

830
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: But motherfucker though, he was a slow, bad, motherfucker bad.

831
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 5: He was a slow He could play and he was

832
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 5: old because he had a bad back. Because like two

833
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 5: weeks later I gave it to him, but he had

834
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 5: a bad bag. I said, huh, what y'all say? Oh

835
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 5: this you motherfuck.

836
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: Say you motherfucker, motherfucker.

837
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 5: Yo, this is l J. Bro.

838
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 3: I ain't never been cut out.

839
00:39:58,360 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 5: I had gotta do.

840
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 7: Yeah.

841
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 5: So yeah, he had a bad back. Now I'm nineteen,

842
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 5: I'm twenty, and don't come out here with that because

843
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 5: you just you just toasted me the first game. How

844
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 5: about that? Are we good? You just outscored me the

845
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 5: first game? How about that?

846
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 3: What was that payback?

847
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 7: Like?

848
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 5: I had thirty five and like twelve, but it went

849
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 5: so bad. I looked over and it was all in

850
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 5: the paper. You know, you know how they do. We

851
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 5: only had ESPN back then. It was like, you know,

852
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 5: Larry having back here, shoe back here, shoe back. So

853
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 5: I didn't think he was gonna play against us, and

854
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 5: he did. And it was in Charlotte, and I had

855
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 5: like thirty five and twelve, but like the fourth quarter,

856
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 5: like he was trying to go. He was trying to go.

857
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 5: Then the fourth quart I see him do like to

858
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 5: I said, yeah, she is sub sub He went over

859
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 5: there and you know how he didn't sit on the bench.

860
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 5: He laid laid down. Yeah, and he let after Nabby

861
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 5: take that punishment and whoever else that they threw it

862
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 5: and that took that punishment because I gave it to him.

863
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 3: So what was that transition like?

864
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 5: Though?

865
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 2: So you're preparing for the magic and bird shit, it

866
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 2: doesn't go through you and this trailer, how are you

867
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: at the time twenty twenty one? Yep, they got a

868
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: dress and a wig? And for you, how did you

869
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: buy into that shit? Because it became one of the

870
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: greatest characters of all time? But how did you mentally

871
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: get there?

872
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 5: Quick?

873
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: Motherfucking money.

874
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 5: I ain't got the money quick, oh got the bundy.

875
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 5: But and they sent the heavy hitters in there. Everybody

876
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 5: that been cool my Asian, Oh man, he gonna kill

877
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 5: Roger Morning Star, anybody nobody would converse. He was the

878
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 5: converse wherever Roger Morning start. He was an ex baller,

879
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: white guy by six. I remember used to play me

880
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 5: one on one. I'm like, man, get your old ass

881
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 5: off the cord. He would be trying to play hard

882
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 5: too old ride. I think he had a little stand

883
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 5: in the NBA, But Roger Morning started my age. They

884
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 5: walked in there, man, and they got to talking to him,

885
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 5: and you know, he's like, and they bring them young

886
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 5: boys in there. They was pitching it.

887
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: Oh the ar guitar, guitar, Hello, like man, Larry even

888
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:01,919
Speaker 2: butt head.

889
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 5: He said, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm getting that these

890
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 5: type of dudes.

891
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 2: So I do.

892
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 5: I was in trouble. They say say, Man, we wanna

893
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 5: do something different from over. Man, got all these commercials,

894
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: guys just dunking and doing this bad. We're gonna do

895
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 5: something different. So man, whatever, I'm here and my mom,

896
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 5: that's what I was gonna say. The first commercial was

897
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 5: done at the high school in Dallas, and my mom

898
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 5: was there. She got to see that, and she she

899
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: she was laughing, just like you motherfuckers was. She was laughing,

900
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 5: and she enjoyed it. So we did it for like

901
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 5: three four years. But then I started telling them, like

902
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 5: after about I think I had like a six year contract.

903
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 5: So after like that fifth year, I under one Rookie

904
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 5: of the Year played in the All Star Game, I'm

905
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 5: going say, man, oh, let's do an LJ commercial. Now,

906
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 5: my grandmama, we haven't success, but shit, I'm a motherfucker.

907
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 5: Let's let's go on. Let's show that.

908
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: Let me be myself.

909
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you know, big success, big success, and I

910
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 5: don't regret it at all. I regret one thing. I'm

911
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 5: gonna mess you all up now. I regret one thing.

912
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 5: I was on Arkle with her Arkle Yeah, shout out

913
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 5: family matters. Yeah, no, for the fuck y'all up. Y'all

914
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 5: got the picture of family matters. No, no, no, that's enough.

915
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: He said, that's enough that I turned down Martin.

916
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 5: You turned down? Oh, grandmama, and what was Martin?

917
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 3: No?

918
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 5: No, no, did mama Mama pain, Mama pain, grand Mama

919
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 5: and Mama I turned it down. I told you, I said,

920
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 5: I told you I would fuck y'all up. I told

921
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 5: you fuck y'all. That's the reason because because grand Mama, Okay,

922
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 5: I was and I was studying telling cope the one

923
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 5: thing you regrets.

924
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: No, you don't know.

925
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,839
Speaker 5: I regret not doing markin. Yeah, I regret not doing yeah. Yeah,

926
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 5: I regret not doing mar Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes sir.

927
00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 3: That would have been legendary.

928
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 5: That's it, Mama Payne and Grandmama. Yeah, I've regretted. I

929
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 5: told you how the fuck y'all. Damn, I told you

930
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 5: how to fuck y'all.

931
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: So rookie year nineteen and eleven, All Star Starter, second

932
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 2: year twenty two, eleven and four. Uh, and then you

933
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: sign a crazy obviously money is astronomical right now, but

934
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: you signed the biggest deal twelve years, eighty four million dollars.

935
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 5: Okay, so what is that seven?

936
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: A year seven, which is it's under a minimum right now,

937
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 2: which is crazy, but it is the biggest deal in

938
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: the league at the time.

939
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: What are you thinking?

940
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: What did you do with that first bit, that first

941
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: when you signed, and that that big wire came through and.

942
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 5: Hit that bank account? Listen? How many how many brothers

943
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 5: you don't have on and not brothers, I guess sisters too.

944
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: And here comes to cousins, best friends, best man. I

945
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 5: barely know you of this and that and and I wasn't.

946
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 5: We can get real. I'm not good with money. I'm

947
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 5: trying to trying to be better, but I didn't do

948
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 5: the right thing, which was, you know, took care of everybody.

949
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: It's hard to say no, it's hard to say man.

950
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 4: And and taking care of everybody is not a bad thing.

951
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 4: So you know what I mean, that's that's not a

952
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: bad thing at all.

953
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 5: Man. Shout out to my knicks on that point right there,

954
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 5: because if it wasn't for my knicks.

955
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: Right now, I wouldn't be bro he said, you wouldn't

956
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: be even wouldn't be Are they looking out for you?

957
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: That's dope?

958
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: Shout yes, sir, Yes, sir. Take us back to Charlotte,

959
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: though Zoe comes the next year. You guys are the

960
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: hottest ticket in town. Jerseys merch sold out arenas you

961
00:45:59,560 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: guys are.

962
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 5: You're all the jumping yep, Yes, indeed yep. And it's

963
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 5: North Carolina, so it's the basketball state. And the first

964
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 5: two or three years and even before me, I think

965
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 5: they won attendance record over Chicago. But they had a

966
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 5: they had like a what thirty forty thousand dollars arena? Uh,

967
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 5: Charlotte did and sold it out every year get there

968
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 5: and they we studied building Kndle before me Rex was there.

969
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 5: These was height. I mean these was college start all Americans, correct,

970
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 5: and so they had the hype and here I am

971
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 5: coming from you and every we talked about it. One

972
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 5: one go to part down middle right, Ready the ball,

973
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 5: Ready the ball. So we had to see the mugs.

974
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: I did I not mention Tyrone Muggsy boat Yeah, by

975
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 5: ba this how this little motherfucker do me this? How okay?

976
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 5: This is how mugs talked to me. Uh, halfway through

977
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 5: my rookie year. It's between me and the Kim Bay

978
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 5: Rookie of the year. He gonna come knock on my door.

979
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 5: We on the road. He come, what a mother? What

980
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 5: the mother? Before the games are because you're from Baltimore,

981
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 5: so this is him. You want to win Rookie of

982
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 5: the year? Young like, yeah, motherfuck, I want to win

983
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 5: rook Out of the year. Big, I want to win

984
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 5: rook Out of the Year. And for when he did that,

985
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 5: I think I started averaging twenty five twenty six for us. Again,

986
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 5: it was just coming. He's a bad dude. When when

987
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 5: it come to that, it was just coming, man. It

988
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 5: was just coming.

989
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 3: That's the space jam picture.

990
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh space yeah yeah, yeah, yeah here get it.

991
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 3: Talked us about that?

992
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what you mean you're gonna get into what talk

993
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: to us about space gym?

994
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 3: And what was that?

995
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 2: What that was?

996
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 7: Like?

997
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: Can I tell y'all story? I hope y'all laughing? Then

998
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 5: what was that called?

999
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: Right there?

1000
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 5: That was that, your ladies and gentlemen. That was Michael.

1001
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 5: They built that because Mike, I think we was there

1002
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 5: a month a little over month. Mike was there the

1003
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 5: whole summer, so they built this like this is like

1004
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 5: a gym for him to practice in and get down in.

1005
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 5: And it was better than some arenas bro the showers.

1006
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 5: This was unreal. And there was ball games every day,

1007
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 5: and you know a lot of cats in LA, so

1008
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 5: they was coming down Reggie, you know. Uh And and

1009
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 5: you guys, see what's my big guy name, Sean Bradley.

1010
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 5: If you show that picture, guess who I hung out

1011
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 5: with for a month money had Sean Bradley was me

1012
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: and shun guess up Meat Muggs was hurt. Muggs was hurt.

1013
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 5: Muggs had just had knee surgery doing this whole If

1014
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 5: I don't know if y'all saw space. Yeah, doing this

1015
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 5: whole film. He was never walking. It's a scene where

1016
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 5: we was walking. They was pulling him on the trolley.

1017
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 5: He couldn't walk. They were pulling him on the Charlie mugs.

1018
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 5: So I couldn't hang out with mugs. He was just

1019
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 5: he was in the room all the time. Me and

1020
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 5: Sean was kind of hanging out. Man Sean Bradley. Yeah,

1021
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 5: good dude, good dude.

1022
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: What was it like though, I mean, that's that that

1023
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 2: movie that experience.

1024
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 5: Oh no, no, it's my story. So I had a

1025
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 5: fade right, I had for everybody? Got a ball heare

1026
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 5: mugs just got a red look cut. That's easy to do.

1027
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 5: And Pat you know who, you probably gotta work a

1028
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,879
Speaker 5: little bit, but I don't work a little bit. Pack

1029
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 5: got what is that? What is that hot? What is

1030
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 5: that hot time? Pack got a hot time?

1031
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 3: But I had that's that Steve Harry Before Steve Harry

1032
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 3: put it.

1033
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 5: I had a blended fade right. And they had a

1034
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 5: tali in barber and I went there the first day.

1035
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, that's what he was. I went

1036
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 5: there the first day. I said, say, man, because they

1037
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 5: say you're gonna be here, and I said, can you

1038
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 5: do this?

1039
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 2: Oh, no problem, no problem, no prob up.

1040
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 5: About five days later, the same man getting a little bit,

1041
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 5: can you do this, and faded.

1042
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: No problem, no problem, no problem.

1043
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 5: About that tenth day when I went to get a cut,

1044
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 5: he started off with sizzles. He did all sizars. I

1045
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 5: know I'm fucked up. I know I'm fucked like. He

1046
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 5: was trying to fade me with sizzles brothers, and I'm like,

1047
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 5: I know I'm fucking He got me turned away from

1048
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 5: the mirror and it was like ten minutes, lady talking

1049
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 5: about I'm done. I turned around, had a bowl cut

1050
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: around my mother. This was a bowl bro. I say, man,

1051
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 5: I ain't And I went to my trailer and Muggsy

1052
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 5: Muggs little fucker ass. Muggsy cave it because they was

1053
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 5: waiting on me on set and Muggsy carry it there.

1054
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 5: He said said, man, we waiting on you, and he

1055
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 5: talked about her. The bust out laughing.

1056
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: Right.

1057
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 5: I say, man, I ain't going it up. I ain't

1058
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 5: going it up. He said, all right, man. He went

1059
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 5: back there told every last one of the moutherfuckers that

1060
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 5: didn't cave it. I ain't never seen you like a

1061
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 5: drug like this before. He was on the floor.

1062
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: He was.

1063
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 5: They was giving it to me and T T. K. Carter.

1064
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 5: Anybody know him. He's one of the actors, man, he was.

1065
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 5: He was dudes on the he's one of the actors.

1066
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 5: They had about five or six actors there to try

1067
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 5: to teach us how to act in a short amount

1068
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 5: of time. But this dude TK Carter looked at me,

1069
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 5: said come on, LJ and took me to a barbershop

1070
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 5: right down the street and in fifteen minutes, dude blending me, yeah, brother,

1071
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 5: blending me.

1072
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: Fucked up for a minute.

1073
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 5: Though I ain't never seen Mike like that. I ain't

1074
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 5: never seen Mike and Charle id up like that. They

1075
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 5: was giving it to me all over my floor. I'll

1076
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 5: get your ass out of here.

1077
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: Shortt after he signed a big contract. You hurt your

1078
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: back and that changed your career forever. Talk about the

1079
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: effect of that injury and the process of trying to

1080
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 4: get back from it.

1081
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 5: Well, it goes back to that high school coach I

1082
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 5: was saying. That's another thing, youngsters. You're getting your job

1083
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 5: taken now by you know, foreigners right right, because you're

1084
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 5: not getting the fundamentals. You just want to run and

1085
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: jump and dunk on people. No, man, they got these

1086
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 5: seven footags coming over shoot threes and runners, and we

1087
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: didn't have that. I mean, now done took away the

1088
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 5: post game. But if I'm talking to the youngsters, man,

1089
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 5: it's about fundamentals. When you this age, it's cool to

1090
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 5: be athletic. You we want you to be athletic, but

1091
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 5: be able to shoot, pass and dribble with that athletics

1092
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 5: to them, right. So it took my high school coach,

1093
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 5: Like I said, member said earlier, when I left high school,

1094
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 5: everything else was easy. Everything un LV was teaching I knew,

1095
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 5: you know, except the meeb you know, everything everything Junior

1096
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 5: College was teaching I knew. I knew the fundamentals. So

1097
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 5: when I did hear my back because I was one

1098
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 5: of them running jump casts, I was one of them

1099
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 5: dunk on everybody and do that uh zions you know

1100
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 5: in that area. And uh. When I heard my back, man,

1101
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: I just went back to the fundamentals to start playing

1102
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 5: better defense, shot the ball better, you know what I mean?

1103
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 5: For a point play, I distributed the ball better.

1104
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: Was that In the simmies of the Eastern Finals, Simmis, Simmis.

1105
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 5: Simmis Simmis, Yeah, because when we beat them, Yeah, it

1106
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 5: was Indiana. It was Indiana, and that.

1107
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 2: It made a good catch.

1108
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 5: Johnson, Yeah, yeah, team was a long way from being

1109
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 5: over wash his street throw wash it street throw. Ain't

1110
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 5: no way that balls should have win the hole. Ain't

1111
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 5: no way that get out of my head. Boy, I

1112
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 5: got almost Ain't no way that should a way of

1113
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 5: the hull. Now, the three point I knew I was

1114
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 5: gonna make. I knew the play wasn't for me. The

1115
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 5: play was for Allen, and then the second was Spree.

1116
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 5: But I said two piss ass uh half ass screen

1117
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 5: to get back to the ball because I think I

1118
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,320
Speaker 5: was three for three from three's that game and I

1119
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 5: I wanted that one. And before we walked that, Jeff

1120
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 5: drew up the play and it's Allen and Spree and

1121
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 5: he threw up to drew up the play and Marcus

1122
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 5: Marcus camping shout out to big EMC, grabbed me for you,

1123
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 5: went out and say you getting this ball. You know

1124
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 5: they gonna play that's that's Indiana. They gonna cut Allen

1125
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 5: is the first, Uh, the option. They just don't take

1126
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 5: that away and and they know spree was and they

1127
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 5: gonna take that away. But MC stopped me and said, man,

1128
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 5: you're getting this ball my hope. So so I knew

1129
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 5: the three was going in. But you saw that free throw.

1130
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 5: Ain't nowhere in the hell that ballo the way of

1131
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 5: the hull. I got that motherfucker out quick. I got said,

1132
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 5: I lets that motherfucker go get away. And that mother

1133
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 5: was the hold. But I knew I was gonna make

1134
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 5: my three. I know I was, Oh you get away

1135
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 5: from about even turn around. We weren't even look you

1136
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 5: get up talking about some good ship. Did you bring

1137
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 5: this ship up? Look it up? We want each other,

1138
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 5: look at over get it guy. See we were doing good.

1139
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 5: I wanted all to smoke. We was doing No. No,

1140
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 5: I ain't talking about here in the morning. I'm talking

1141
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 5: about the faith for whoever running this first hold on,

1142
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 5: whoever running this neither one of whoever running running.

1143
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: Back wanted to play.

1144
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:45,239
Speaker 5: Look, I hain't no no watch with Jeff fall in

1145
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 5: the morning.

1146
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: And that's.

1147
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 5: If you get and that's old. I never knew that

1148
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 5: there was the first to do that.

1149
00:54:56,719 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 6: You hit him, chopped him, chopped it either want of him,

1150
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,280
Speaker 6: you know, and look at Ben Gunny down at the bottom,

1151
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 6: up screams holding up.

1152
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 5: Thank y'all for coming out. We're gonna do this, motherfucker.

1153
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 5: I just felt I just never with a left did

1154
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 5: Jeff Bro, Jeff, I thought he just went down there. No,

1155
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 5: he sent the next day, went to practice. He had

1156
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 5: He says, what you trying to say? Shin shine up?

1157
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: And I didn't know till he said he So, you

1158
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 2: know you hit me? So y'all had you and Spree

1159
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 2: on the same team. Yeah, y'all was fucking Spree up.

1160
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 5: Spree went on that coaching coaches up.

1161
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 3: Y'all, fucking coachs up.

1162
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 5: That's crazy. I never knew you hit you, bro, that's

1163
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 5: my dude. Shout out just the trail. When Spree guy here,

1164
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 5: his locker was always by mind to practice on the road.

1165
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: They put Spree right by me. Yeah, I tell you

1166
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 5: you talked to I was captain and time man. I

1167
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 5: don't know what the fun to say. Spring Spree was

1168
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 5: a bad fucker and he came here. He was only

1169
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 5: but we always always knew wasn't nothing wrong with Spree.

1170
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 5: I mean, Spree was a cool dude. Uh, this is

1171
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,919
Speaker 5: pro basketball now college basketball, so some of you guys

1172
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,280
Speaker 5: can't do two men, which you know family.

1173
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm not you know, I'm not saying. I'm

1174
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: just saying we all knew y'all have the special team though.

1175
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: Talk about that team and that bond y'all had.

1176
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 5: The same thing. It went back to the almost like

1177
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 5: the un l V days, Man, un l V days

1178
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 5: with those cats. Man, I love those cats. That uh

1179
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 5: you know, we used to chill.

1180
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 2: That's what that was.

1181
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 3: That square, That's what I'm going Square.

1182
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 5: I wasn't a square, okay, Yeah, yeah, the city got

1183
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 5: to me.

1184
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, the city.

1185
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 5: No, I ain't gonna put that. I ain't gonna put

1186
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 5: that on you. You know what we get. It's all

1187
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 5: the smoke. I didn't drink. I was a square then

1188
00:56:56,600 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 5: spoke didn't drink. All I did was chase skirts. When

1189
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 5: did that stop? I got rook here of I got

1190
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 5: Rookie of Year, he says, Charlotte, I got Rookie of

1191
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 5: the Year. I'm on my way up and I heard

1192
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 5: my back in the summertime. Who facts facts? And the

1193
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 5: season starts and I'm not ready to play the season.

1194
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 5: But I come back and I can't play a lit

1195
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 5: That one of the legs was this one lonely was

1196
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 5: was sixty five percents less than this one. So I'm

1197
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 5: limping out there and we played Utah Jazz in Utah.

1198
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 5: Karl Malone. Now, the first two games my rookie year toasted.

1199
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 5: It gave it to him. And you know I'm coming

1200
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 5: out as a power forward. I uh cal alone, I

1201
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 5: gotta good at uh yeah, Barkley. I got those games.

1202
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 5: I was getting them eight to nine hours sleep getting

1203
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 5: ready for those games, because this is who I look

1204
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 5: to be. Like this to first two games. Charlotte, your honey,

1205
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:03,439
Speaker 5: you're toasted in my brookie yar. We'll play him twice.

1206
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 5: You talked, Charlotte toasted. It came back that second year.

1207
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 5: I have no business out there, ladies and gentlemen have

1208
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 5: no been. He gave it to me. He toasted me.

1209
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 5: He toasted me. He toasted me. And I was that

1210
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 5: week that I took my first drink on every children,

1211
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 5: on my mom who's out here. That's when I took

1212
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 5: my first drink my sophomore year at Charlotte because I

1213
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 5: got toasted in a funk ad basketball. Yeah, my first drink.

1214
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 5: I listen when I say my first drink. I don't

1215
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 5: mean no. I did a wine cool little after the

1216
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 5: game one time. No, I did a why Am and

1217
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 5: my girl went out, But no, no me, it's ice

1218
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 5: to this day, this one don't do nothing. To this day,

1219
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 5: ice don't drink or smoke. Really don't do nothing. And

1220
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 5: that means don't do nothing. That don't mean birthday, No,

1221
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 5: we did. The first time alcohol all hit me was

1222
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 5: when I was weak after that Utah game. Man went

1223
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 5: out with one of the homeboys from the team and

1224
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 5: ain't gonna say who it is. I ain't gonna throw

1225
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 5: him out there like that, And I said, man, funk

1226
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 5: that funk. That funk that. I think, I fuck your head.

1227
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 5: I think I was crying because he toasted me. So

1228
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 5: high school in Texas, y'all wasn't drinking. No thunderbird and

1229
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 5: no ship like that they was. That's why we ain't

1230
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 5: win shit. We had all that no no, and then

1231
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 5: you know, and I think everybody else did. Were about

1232
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 5: the same age. But I used to get ass whoopings

1233
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 5: through at the Johnson. I used to get ass whoopings.

1234
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 5: So we stopped doing that. Getting ass whoopings.

1235
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 2: You was in a golden age of power forwards. So

1236
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say some names. Just the first team to

1237
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: come to mind, Charles Barkley.

1238
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 5: Goat mmm.

1239
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 2: Wow. I like that.

1240
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 5: He always complained to me, man, he always complained me

1241
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 5: in the sawing. Uh he I saw different things. One game,

1242
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 5: he and I was out there coasting and I had

1243
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 5: a good bad a good back. At this time, I

1244
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 5: got like sixteen, so we guarding each other. The game

1245
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 5: was uh uh was wrapped. Larry Johnson versus Charles Barkley.

1246
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 5: I think it was my second year of the league,

1247
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 5: and I was no. Yeah, it was my second year

1248
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 5: in the league, and I was. I was me and him.

1249
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 5: He got about sixteen seventeen. I got about sixteen seventeen

1250
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 5: and it's the third quarter and he went to go

1251
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 5: up to shoot and lunso blocked it, threw it out

1252
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 5: of bounds. Get that fucking shit out of here, I said, no, no,

1253
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 5: just block the shot. Hit that boo week as ship

1254
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,960
Speaker 5: out of there. He finished with close to forty. He

1255
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 5: put that big ass head down and I couldn't stop

1256
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 5: me Longo couldn't stop men study looking at it. Yeah,

1257
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 5: start nam man, I mean we was going at it.

1258
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 5: But once he had something to go for now, I

1259
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 5: mean here and I was chilling now LUNs on them

1260
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 5: through the dude ball I have been blocking shit and

1261
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 5: told him get that weak ass shit out of here.

1262
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 5: He went there and I couldn't go there. And he toasted.

1263
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1264
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 5: I think he finished at thirty and he had like

1265
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 5: sixteen and a third or something like that. Dennis Robin ooh, homeboy,

1266
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 5: you know whe Dennis Robin's from right Sam Dallas. Yeah. Now,

1267
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 5: he had a sister named DEBRAA. Robin. She the best

1268
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 5: rebound in their family.

1269
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1270
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 5: She went to Louisiana Tech. Her name is Deborah Robin.

1271
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 5: Look her up. They said the day. This is the

1272
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,439
Speaker 5: day and days where you look stuff up. She looked

1273
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 5: like him, she built like him. Her name is Deborah Robbins.

1274
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 5: She was a motherfucker. They when she was at Louisiana Tech.

1275
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 5: They I think they'd be Sheryl Miller them. Yeah, they

1276
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 5: was some. She was a beast. That's the best rebound

1277
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 5: in the family, Debora Robbing.

1278
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

1279
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 5: Yeah. So and yeah, me and were from the same neighborhood,

1280
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 5: Me and d un Dennis Robber. He was a little

1281
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,960
Speaker 5: bit ahead of me. We used to call him worm.

1282
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 5: He used to call him cartoon. He had these earls

1283
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 5: and uh yeah, And he didn't started playing basketball until

1284
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 5: like junior college. That's when he started playing basketball. We

1285
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 5: lived in the same community. He got put out of

1286
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 5: his house one time, like sixteen. Mom put him out

1287
01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 5: and he was he was staying in the Mom didn't

1288
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 5: put him out, send him over to his grandmother, and

1289
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 5: he didn't go. And he was living in the uh

1290
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 5: in the in the park for like a week until

1291
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 5: the grandmother. Boy, bring your ass on. That's Dennis Robin.

1292
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 5: That's crazy. Anthony Mason shout out to base beas beas

1293
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 5: can drivel past shoot said, it took me a year

1294
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 5: or two to get to that because I used to

1295
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:04,200
Speaker 5: toast the Knicks. That's why they traded for me when

1296
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 5: I came here. But it took a while for me.

1297
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 5: And when when Mace got his own, oh he was

1298
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 5: like a different player when they traded me for Mace

1299
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 5: and Mason. You know, mason't have to deal with Patrick

1300
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,920
Speaker 5: Ewing and you know me a john starts shooting the

1301
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 5: ball every time he touched it. That's my dude, that's

1302
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,439
Speaker 5: my dude. That's my dude. And Mace had his own.

1303
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 5: He became that player. He was that dude man.

1304
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: Sean Kempon just saw my dude, just saw rain, just

1305
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 2: saw rain.

1306
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 5: We was all dream Team two together, so everybody could

1307
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 5: get about dream Team too. Well, we were some motherfuckers too. Yes,

1308
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 5: that was some of the best. Oh my god, dream

1309
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 5: Team too.

1310
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 3: Who was on that team?

1311
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 5: Remind us shat me? Uh DC, he said, Sean Thron.

1312
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: The band Dominique Wilkins, Right, Dominique, Dominique.

1313
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 5: We went out every night. Hey, we went out every night. Yeah,

1314
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have I wasn't square then, man couldn't be No,

1315
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 5: I wasn't bought and I was hanging out with d

1316
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 5: C and uh, what's what point?

1317
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: God?

1318
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 5: Michigan State, Stevie the Detroit motherfucker. I was had the

1319
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 5: Detroit butther as Sean as Shawn Man oh Man, oh Man.

1320
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 5: We played college team. We played the college team in

1321
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 5: Golden State because the coach was Golden State. Don Nelson

1322
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,479
Speaker 5: was the coach. It's coming to me, Bro, it's coming

1323
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 5: too me. Don Nelson was coach. So we played the

1324
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 5: college team and Golden State and they said, all right,

1325
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 5: we're flying to Toronto. Uh bus leaving at seven o'clock

1326
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 5: in the morning. Yeah, fucking right, no way. Nobody. Coach

1327
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 5: Don the Netson wasn't on it either, Yeah, nobody. So

1328
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 5: it's about four o'clock in the evening, they banging over.

1329
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 5: I finally got it, you know, right to answer the mud.

1330
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, man, yeah, I said, man, I'm

1331
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 5: gonna get my own plane. I forget my own player

1332
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 5: to he said, no, don't worry about don't worry about

1333
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 5: we leaving at eight tonight. Like there you go, there

1334
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 5: you go. So whatever they had for us to leave

1335
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 5: that morning, man, nobody made that play. But we beat

1336
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 5: everybody about like thirty something too. I think we won

1337
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 5: one or two games, like seventeen eighteen. But we big Shock,

1338
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 5: big Shock, you know. And that's when Shack was Shack.

1339
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: What was prime Shock, Like I don't think yeah, yeah, yeah, no.

1340
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 5: They don't. We look at Shack now, and you know,

1341
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 5: some other things doesn't happen in the league. And no,

1342
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 5: and he was unstoppable.

1343
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 3: He was that big.

1344
01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 5: He was just that big. And he developed a couple

1345
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 5: of little old jump hucks like nice touch. I used

1346
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 5: to kill him all the time. Me and Shock knew

1347
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 5: each other from college and we've done hung out in

1348
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 5: college before, so I used to kill him all the time.

1349
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 5: Like right for the game, I grabbed it. I'm like, motherfucker,

1350
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 5: you're best playing our league. Man, learn how to shoot

1351
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 5: free throw because I know we finish foul and we

1352
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 5: finished shock. What is that called?

1353
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 3: What we used to do?

1354
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 5: That hack a shaq and then you try to fight

1355
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 5: when you do that too. So before the game saying, man,

1356
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 5: you need to learn how shot freet through and I'm wanting, yeah,

1357
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 5: we're gonna hacker shock you, but I'm gonna have to

1358
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 5: hacker shock you. And we was always close, but I

1359
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 5: would say say, man, you're the best player in our league,

1360
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 5: and we can go down here and get a dude

1361
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 5: that work at the Chicken shock who played high school

1362
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 5: ball two or three years ago and a little bit

1363
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 5: of this little back still play on the weekends, who

1364
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 5: shoot free throws better than you, And you're the best

1365
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 5: player in our lead work on your fuck the free throe, bro.

1366
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 2: But he was a beast man. Well, man, we've appreciate

1367
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 2: your time. Tonight, We're gonna end this with some quick hit.

1368
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: It's the first thing to come to mind. Let us

1369
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 2: know one album with those skips.

1370
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 5: Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you you on. No, no,

1371
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 5: because I'm proud of the old list in here. So

1372
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 5: you know, Anita Baker, no skips.

1373
01:06:57,960 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: He told y'all you love basketball and women.

1374
01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 4: Next question and since we talking about well, who was

1375
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 4: your childhood crush?

1376
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:10,320
Speaker 5: Probably all of them?

1377
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 3: Was that?

1378
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 5: Yeah? That that got me over here? Right?

1379
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 7: Uh?

1380
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 5: Jasmine God a different world? Yes, Lord, yeah.

1381
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 3: God?

1382
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, she in the city. Jah, what up? Jazz is married?

1383
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: Is married. So there was a rumor that that ninety

1384
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 2: fourteen that Dream Team too was what by the media.

1385
01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: They said. They said, y'all was too cocky. We were,

1386
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 3: y'all was feeling yourself as you should, as we should.

1387
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 5: We did a walk out, you know, y out. You

1388
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 5: played in a couple of those old USA teams, but

1389
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 5: you know before.

1390
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 2: The I watched them and smoked. I didn't play on

1391
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 2: none of.

1392
01:07:54,800 --> 01:08:01,840
Speaker 5: We smoked and were to walk out. How they walk

1393
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 5: out all the teams and all the athletes and we

1394
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 5: walked past.

1395
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 2: Uh.

1396
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 5: I think it was a Canadian team, Correct me if

1397
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 5: I'm wrong. Canada. But they was like, man, we can

1398
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 5: beat them. They're not Dream Team too, we can beat them.

1399
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 5: And we all heard that and we all and you're

1400
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 5: getting you're dealing with d c me sean like what okay?

1401
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 5: All right, all right, and we we beat everybody. Yeah,

1402
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,480
Speaker 5: we beat everybody.

1403
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: As you should.

1404
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 5: Guilty pleasure. That's fucked up. Huh. I need to stop drinking.

1405
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 2: That's a guilty pleasure. A few drinks here and there

1406
01:08:56,240 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: and nothing wrote that. Uh cosamigos for the wind. Uh

1407
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: five dinner guests dead or alive? You plus five at

1408
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 2: the dinner table, dead or alive?

1409
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 5: So four?

1410
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 3: No? You plus five?

1411
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 5: All right? All right, all right? Unrule Lijah Muhammad, Muhammad, Ali,

1412
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 5: Richard Pryor, Red Fox. I knew Red Fox, everyone I knew.

1413
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 5: I knew my brother Red Fox. Oh Man, that last spot,

1414
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 5: oh Man, Mon Dukes, Duke, thank you, thank you.

1415
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 2: The one person you met, you were in awe of.

1416
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 5: Joy. M J damn something about him? Facts facts.

1417
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 4: If you could see one guest on our a show,

1418
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 4: who would it be? But but you have to help

1419
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 4: us get your answer on the show. Like a motherfucker.

1420
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:08,679
Speaker 4: I fuck with y'all.

1421
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 5: I fuck with y'all. I fuck with y'all.

1422
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 2: Y'd old mighty, oh pee wee, we already had Zo,

1423
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 2: we had Zoe spree. Well, Houston, spree, y'all, we had,

1424
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 2: oh little trail, nigga, don't watch the show.

1425
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 5: We had old already nigga.

1426
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 3: He said, look, he hey, he said, spree. Well, you're

1427
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 3: gonna help us get him, sir.

1428
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 5: We we get him. I'm coming back. Yeah, hell yeah, deal,

1429
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 5: make it a reunion, Make it a nice reunion. God

1430
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 5: damn right. Well, l J.

1431
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 2: Man, we want to thank you first and foremost coming

1432
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: out tonight. But what you meant to us?

1433
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 5: Man? Oh ship? What is it?

1434
01:10:58,479 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 3: Birthday cake?

1435
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 5: They got weed in it and we get everybody stand up?

1436
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 5: Everybody stand up right now. We celebrating five years. Five years.

1437
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 5: Everybody stand up.

1438
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 3: Everybody stand up.

1439
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, man, appreciate that, Thank you, ladies, appreciate that

1440
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 2: five years.

1441
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 5: Man.

1442
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 3: We appreciate you.

1443
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 2: Guys, Like we said, man, thank you guys for coming out.

1444
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: We appreciate you, LJ.

1445
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 2: We appreciate you.

1446
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 3: Baby, given on one more time for LJ. Good luck

1447
01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 3: this year.

1448
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I'm be. We got fan questions. We got

1449
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: some fan questions, all right, my bad ship, my fault.

1450
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 3: Who wants to ask a question? Where we at?

1451
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 5: Right here?

1452
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 3: Go ahead? You want to come back, Okay, y'all want

1453
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 3: us to come back. Huh okay, right here.

1454
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 5: When you came to New York, how was it dealing

1455
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 5: with Anthony?

1456
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 3: How was it?

1457
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 2: How was it with Anthony Mason when you came.

1458
01:11:56,160 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 5: After we retire? And oh they built that up for

1459
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,800
Speaker 5: me and Mace and uh if you remember that year

1460
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 5: Charlotte beat us three out of four times. We played

1461
01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 5: them four times, they beat us three out of four times,

1462
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 5: and they lost like the last four or five games

1463
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,519
Speaker 5: to play us in the playoffs.

1464
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was real.

1465
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:21,799
Speaker 5: It was serious. And they got swept.

1466
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so hold on, it wasn't the regular season three.

1467
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 5: None, they got swept yea and yeah yeah, but I

1468
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 5: think Charlotte was happy with with the trade and New

1469
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 5: York is happy.

1470
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 3: With prime sweating. What's up?

1471
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 5: How you felt when you played up and coming five?

1472
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 5: Never played them? Never played them? Missed, never played them?

1473
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 5: You say missed?

1474
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 2: He said, when they see Jersey and the rafters of

1475
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: the in the.

1476
01:12:57,080 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 5: Garden, you're talking about the garden, real talk. When I

1477
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 5: see Clyde and I don't deserve that. I don't deserve that, bro.

1478
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 5: I appreciate that love, maam, thank you, But nah man,

1479
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 5: with what's going up there. Oh man, stop it for real.

1480
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 5: Go ahead.

1481
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 7: Well, I just want to ask the question. And you

1482
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 7: said something that was very very important. You said in

1483
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 7: high school you had to learn the fundamentals. Right, So

1484
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 7: now we playing ote, we all over social media, our

1485
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:36,640
Speaker 7: team plays everywhere, and now guys don't play towards the

1486
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 7: fundamental they play towards the clicks.

1487
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 5: They play towards the likes. Right.

1488
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 7: So unfortunately the high school coach has the tough job

1489
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,639
Speaker 7: of trying to put in these fundamentals. I love them,

1490
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,640
Speaker 7: but we fight every day. What the truth of the

1491
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 7: matter is, is this what advice? Because when they see

1492
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 7: y'all three up here on stage, they are motivated, they

1493
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 7: holding on to it. What advice could you give the

1494
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 7: youth who's trying to get through this time which is

1495
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 7: very very different where you just talked about you have

1496
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 7: to buy your mother's house, You have to strive for

1497
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 7: different things. Some of these kids, they don't have to strive.

1498
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,479
Speaker 7: Some of them are making money off of their likes

1499
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 7: and it ain't really about the game. And they don't

1500
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 7: really love her like that.

1501
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 5: That's a problem. So what would you say, say they

1502
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 5: don't love they don't love it like that did you

1503
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 5: just say that that. Yeah, you can build a nice,

1504
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 5: cool high school player and make all city or all district,

1505
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 5: But we had a lot of all cities and second

1506
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 5: team all districts. They ain't going nowhere. You gotta have

1507
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 5: it in your heart. And it starts with the coaches

1508
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 5: and brother sounds. I don't know, brother, but he sounds

1509
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 5: like he knows what he's talking about. Definitely sound like

1510
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 5: you're dealing with something, right, So he wouldn't ask to

1511
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 5: the question if he wasn't dealing with nothing. He wouldn't

1512
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 5: ask the question if he wasn't dealing with nothing. But no, man,

1513
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 5: you gotta trust your coach. You got to buy into

1514
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 5: your coach, coach your system. That's what happened at U

1515
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 5: n LV. Whatever coach talk, run through that wall. We

1516
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 5: were trying to run through the wall because we knew

1517
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 5: he loved us. We knew it for our best interest.

1518
01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 5: I mean, long as it's for your best interest. Think

1519
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 5: about it, it's your coach. Why wouldn't you listen and

1520
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 5: do what the coach say. Who you're gonna listen? You

1521
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 5: go click up. You're gonna click up, man, fuck you

1522
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 5: gonna click up.

1523
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,679
Speaker 3: Definitely, No, man, you just have to realize to go ahead.

1524
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 5: No, I was never that player. I was never that player, youngsters,

1525
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 5: And you know I did all right, I did all right.

1526
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:32,720
Speaker 5: But just look at that.

1527
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 2: It just depends on where you're trying to get to.

1528
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 2: I mean, the clicks is the only get to get

1529
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 2: you so far. Playing for that is only with you

1530
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 2: to so far because other people are playing for their

1531
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 2: lives and trying to make it.

1532
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 3: So That's why I think one.

1533
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 2: Question came in though, you go, are you guys doing

1534
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 2: anything with the UNLV team, You guys doing any kind

1535
01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 2: of docs or movie or anything with the UNLV team.

1536
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 5: We got a documentary coming out. Oh yes, sir, we

1537
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 5: got a documentary. It's called I think we King of

1538
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 5: Vegas right now, King of Vegas King. Like I said,

1539
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 5: when we was there, there was no professional team nowhere.

1540
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 5: It was only about that school in that team. And

1541
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 5: the documentary should be a twenty twenty five and we

1542
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 5: got everybody. We got the whole squad back, whole squad back,

1543
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:20,759
Speaker 5: everybody but Coach Talk used to Coach Talk, but his wife,

1544
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:24,160
Speaker 5: his wife, lords his wife, Miss Tarkain. She did the

1545
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 5: document herself.

1546
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:29,639
Speaker 2: It's pretty good man looking forward hell man, we appreciate

1547
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: you again. Thank you guys for coming out.

1548
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 3: Man, appreciate you, guys, Thank you, thank you. Pick up

1549
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:36,080
Speaker 3: that coffee.

1550
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: Table book coming out tomorrow, Grab that and ship We'll

1551
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 2: be back.

1552
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 3: Man.

1553
01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 2: We appreciate you guys. Thank you guys for coming out tonight.

1554
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: Get home safe