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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The second hour of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 1: Had Bucked Sexton Show is upon us. Everybody, thanks for

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Speaker 1: being with us. Got obviously COVID waves sweeping across the country.

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Speaker 1: The biggest story in chest America and in the world

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Speaker 1: right now the collapse of the narrative in real time

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Speaker 1: about stopping the spread and many of the old arguments.

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Speaker 1: Once again in the midst here of the winter season,

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Speaker 1: we're having some of the same debates, and it's as

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Speaker 1: though some people can't seem to actually learn anything based

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Speaker 1: on not only data but experience. We've all seen some

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Speaker 1: things work, some things don't. Mostly they don't. And in

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Speaker 1: a sense, this has all been a reminder, a two

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Speaker 1: years long reminder of how inept, unaccountable, corrupt, heavy handed

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Speaker 1: and stupid the government can be when it tries to,

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Speaker 1: when it insists on fixing problems that it's simply cannot

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Speaker 1: and it gets involved in things that it shouldn't or

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Speaker 1: when it should, even it does a poor job of it.

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Speaker 1: And with this I bring you some of the bright

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Speaker 1: spots for a moment, because we know that there's all

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Speaker 1: kinds of mayhem going on right now within the system

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Speaker 1: in New York. The teachers Union in I believe Chicago

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Speaker 1: is about to vote on whether or not they should

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Speaker 1: go to remote learning, shutting down schools. Folks, this is

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Speaker 1: where we are. We've had this huge vaccination campaign all

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Speaker 1: across the country. Sixty two percent of America fully vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: and hundreds of millions of people have gotten at least

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Speaker 1: a shot at this point, and yet now we're being

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Speaker 1: told that schools might shut down again. It's already happened

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Speaker 1: in some cases in New York. They say it's staffing

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Speaker 1: shortage instead of a policy decision. What is the federal

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Speaker 1: government doing to make this better? Testing? They think that's

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Speaker 1: really going to help in the Biden regime, as you know,

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Speaker 1: didn't prepare enough for that. But what about monoclonal antibodies?

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Speaker 1: What about treatment? You know how treatment with something that

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Speaker 1: we have tried to discuss at various points, and it's

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Speaker 1: always become very political. It's mask up and get the vaccine.

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Speaker 1: That's shut up and social distance as if that's an

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Speaker 1: actual medical a medical advice in any meaningful way, like

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Speaker 1: people should or walk around with rulers. Here is Governor

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Speaker 1: inserted itself at the top of the monoclonal antibody distribution

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Speaker 1: chain with bad results. Unsurprisingly, with the monoclonals, that is

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Speaker 1: absolutely leading to people dying. Because we saw when we

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Speaker 1: put in our sights this summer in Florida to deal

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Speaker 1: with the delta wave, we kept tens of thousands of

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Speaker 1: by providing that treatment. So that should have been replicated

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Speaker 1: in all these other states. But instead, what Biden and

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Speaker 1: as cronies have done, they've seized control of all the

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Speaker 1: monoclonal antibody. So yes, when we were in the pinch,

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Speaker 1: I bought some myself. None of the governors now are

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Speaker 1: able to do that because the Feds have seized control.

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Speaker 1: So we're in a situation where we've now asked for

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Speaker 1: forty thousand more every week because I have people that

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Speaker 1: I could help and they are holding onto it and

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Speaker 1: they're not distributing it. Clay, the only possible explanation for

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Speaker 1: this is the federal government's gross incompetence. It's either that

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Speaker 1: or they're trying to punish states or something. But I

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Speaker 1: think it has to be incompetence. How could they not

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Speaker 1: have known? Well, this is wild to think about, buck,

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Speaker 1: because when we didn't have ventilators ready immediately in March

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, how many times did you see media

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Speaker 1: members questioning incredibly detailed Donald Trump? Are there going to

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Speaker 1: be enough ventilators? Can you guarantee that every single person

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Speaker 1: going to be able to get one? Remember how much

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Speaker 1: Andrew Cuomo griped all of the lack of supplies. And

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Speaker 1: then what did Trump do? We brought in basically World

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Speaker 1: War two era laws to allow all of these big

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Speaker 1: what did we end up with? As Trump predicted, we

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Speaker 1: likely would millions of ventilators that effectively were not needed

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Speaker 1: because the ventilation strategy by and large actually was shown

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Speaker 1: to be mostly not helpful. You can correct me if

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong on this, but the usage of ventilators, if

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Speaker 1: you went on a ventilator, you were basically done. And

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Speaker 1: they found out that that wasn't the best possible treat

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Speaker 1: and absolute minderstanding from doctors, if any doctor out there

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Speaker 1: because we actually want to always get it right. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: we're not sitting here as Fauci's PR team one way

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Speaker 1: But as an absolute last resort, ventilators should be used.

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Speaker 1: They found that different forms of people oxygen and even

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Speaker 1: using steroid inhalers, and there are other things. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course you mentioned the Defense Production Act, though the

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Speaker 1: usage of that the Trump brought to bear. But Clay,

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Speaker 1: your essential political point here is everything going wrong with

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Speaker 1: COVID was Donald Trump's fault according to the media, And

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Speaker 1: where's that with Biden now? And it was unpredictable? Is

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Speaker 1: the second part of this. The idea that we would

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Speaker 1: need all of these supplies because a once every hundred

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Speaker 1: years pandemic had suddenly arisen was not very predictable in

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Speaker 1: January necessarily of twenty twenty, that in March of twenty

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Speaker 1: it was imminently predictable if you looked at what was

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Speaker 1: we might need just to toss it out there now.

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Speaker 1: I think this testing idea is wildly overvalued in general,

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Speaker 1: because if you don't feel well, stay home. As I

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Speaker 1: have said for years, I've had the flu before, I've

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Speaker 1: never tested positive for the flu. I've just stayed home

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Speaker 1: until I felt better. That's how we treated almost every illness.

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Speaker 1: Unless you were so ill that you needed to go

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Speaker 1: think that's mostly true for a large number of people

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Speaker 1: you don't feel well, stay home. I mean that's a

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Speaker 1: general proposition. But buck the idea that we might need tests,

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Speaker 1: or that we might need more of these monoclonal antibodies,

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Speaker 1: that we might need supportive drugs that were something other

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Speaker 1: than the quote vaccine was not some crazy idea. It

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Speaker 1: should have been and was eminently predictable for reasonably intelligent people.

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Speaker 1: in the third hour, this, who again is an MD?

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Speaker 1: Because this is always a thing. You're not allowed to

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Speaker 1: have any opinions on policy that the libs don't like

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Speaker 1: unless you're a medical doctor. And then if you are

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Speaker 1: MR and A vaccines, they d platform you and shut

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Speaker 1: up your doctor over here. You don't account right, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, doctors tell us all the time. Buck there.

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Speaker 1: People say, well, why does so few doctors speak out?

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Speaker 1: This this has been horrific. I mean, you talk about

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Speaker 1: mean what I was gonna say is for doctors out there,

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Speaker 1: we've mentioned this for Clay, but to me, Israel's on

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Speaker 1: its fourth shot, that's not anymore what we think of

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Speaker 1: like to do with everything else. A vaccine that's a therapeutic,

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Speaker 1: not saying it doesn't help people avoid hospitalization and death,

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Speaker 1: not contesting that data. That data is real, but it

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Speaker 1: that we know are helpful. Now, I think it shows

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Speaker 1: Now you have some like decent politicians in your state.

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Speaker 1: got some good folks. She has like the vaccine necklace on.

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Speaker 1: means of trying to understand the present that we're in. Again,

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Speaker 1: still having conversations now though, about shutting down schools in

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Speaker 1: because the vaccines failed to stop the spread. You don't

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Speaker 1: even hear the words anymore, Clay, I wonder why. And

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Speaker 1: a spend back in the other direction now where we're

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Speaker 1: going to be supporting police more. But it's based on

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Speaker 1: one video. This is this is why I'm concerned in

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Speaker 1: New York, and again using that as the canary in

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Speaker 1: the coal mine, so to speak, what do you have

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Speaker 1: in New York? Is a change? Okay, a little more

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Speaker 1: supportive at police. I think that's correct. That part of it.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna have to say, oh, we're gonna read. But

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Speaker 1: it's more than just that. We've talked here about the

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Speaker 1: Soros backed progressive prosecutors. We've talked about Republicans who and

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Speaker 1: I will not forget this, and this was a moment

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Speaker 1: I thought they were running a little scared from this

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Speaker 1: in June twenty twenty, when we're hearing about criminal justice

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Speaker 1: reform and all these criminal justice reform bills that we

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Speaker 1: have to pass, and how we're going to have greater

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Speaker 1: police accountability, a lot of that stuff and that often

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Speaker 1: comes down to prosecutor's offices. That's what I mean by

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Speaker 1: the bureaucracy and the progressive virus, if you will, that

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Speaker 1: a while here because they're less accountable, because the public

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Speaker 1: when I see the new You see the new mayor saying, Okay,

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Speaker 1: ways that these major cities approach this. So the police

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Speaker 1: part of it. Again, I think you're right that that

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Speaker 1: really mean? I mean, what does social justice in the

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Speaker 1: context of law enforcement as the left sees it mean? Well,

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Speaker 1: and this is where every four years, Black Lives Matter reemerges.

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Speaker 1: So in sixteen we had a presidential election, hands up,

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you on a prediction right now, in twenty

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Speaker 1: going to make police look bad. That will give Black

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Speaker 1: We've got jug in Maryland's got some thoughts on that

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Speaker 1: ninety five traffic jam from hell? What's up, Doug? How

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Speaker 1: you guys are doing first time caller, first time talking

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Speaker 1: to you, sir, Thanks for giving us your time. Hey, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is what's going on on I ninety five where

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Speaker 1: you have thousands of people stranded, you have people out

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Speaker 1: um as far as being able to get them the

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Speaker 1: timely fashion. And you don't have the funds available because

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Speaker 1: when you have a Democrat in charge, whether like you

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Speaker 1: guys said earlier, whether it be federally or on a statewide. Um, you,

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Speaker 1: this is what you get. You get total ineptness. You

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Speaker 1: don't have the funds available because they're wasted on other things.

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Speaker 1: And now you have a disaster taking place for the

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Speaker 1: last twenty four hours and throughout this entire state of Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Hold on a second, hold on of second, Doug, I

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Speaker 1: got it. Jug. It sounds like you're telling me Governor

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Speaker 1: South northam of I don't know if I was in

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Speaker 1: the Klan costume or the blackface story, that he's not

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Speaker 1: doing a good job in Virginia. Is that what you're

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Speaker 1: telling us? Yeah, I mean, it's it's unfortunate that we

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Speaker 1: have had the new governor come in you know already.

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Speaker 1: But this is this is he's it's it's it's uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, evident that he's not he wasn't prepared for

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Speaker 1: this emergency, you know. I mean, what do you guys

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Speaker 1: think about this? I mean, well, I think in general

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Speaker 1: this is just me. Okay, Southern people are incompetent when

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Speaker 1: it comes to snow in my experience, Democrats, Republicans, Independence.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the specifics of how I ninety five

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Speaker 1: It's obviously an unmitigated disaster that it could occur. I

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Speaker 1: don't know the specifics of how it occurred, if that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. I know that the state of Virginia, I

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Speaker 1: would guarantee, does not have a massive cash of snow plows,

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Speaker 1: just like my home state of Tennessee doesn't have massive

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Speaker 1: amounts of snowplow So people from the north can make

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Speaker 1: fun of us, but when it snows, we don't have

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Speaker 1: the ability to get roads closed. And also Virginia, much

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Speaker 1: Kentucky and places like this are gonna understand. Buck, you

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Speaker 1: New Yorkers don't really understand this. We are always right

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Speaker 1: on the line of is it gonna be the worst

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Speaker 1: is it gonna be thirty two or thirty three, And

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Speaker 1: we get the dreaded wintry mix where we get like sleet, ice, snow,

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Speaker 1: like it all mixes in together. So we are oftentimes

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Speaker 1: why I always say cold weather and snow and ice

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Speaker 1: hits in the South, stay in your house. All of

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Speaker 1: our listeners in WFLA Tampa and w IOD Miami are like,

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Speaker 1: that's why we in interesting Nashville situation there. Sorry about that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I just see people driving through the ice is a mess,

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Speaker 1: and so I don't know exactly what happened in in Virginia,

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Speaker 1: are gonna be fine. People are gonna be out moving

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Speaker 1: What's up, Sean, Hey, guys, how's it going? Well? Good?

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Speaker 1: Real quick? I just with all this stuff going on

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Speaker 1: But back when, you know, Biden was vice president under

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Speaker 1: It was actually Vice President Biden who shut down the

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Speaker 1: he said it just wasn't worth it. Everybody had it,

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Speaker 1: and we just assumed at that point that it was,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically at a pandemic level. But like the

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Speaker 1: affecting children, the normicon variants not and kind of the

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Speaker 1: same thing's happening. But yet their stand on the whole

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Speaker 1: is completely flip flopped. You have in one situation under

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Speaker 1: the previous administration, you know, don't follow the testing. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: got it. Let's focus on the sick and then now

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Speaker 1: and this new administration, we're focusing on the people who

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Speaker 1: aren't getting sick and closing all sorts of testing problems. Yeah, Sean,

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Speaker 1: one thing you can tell for sure, there's going to

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Speaker 1: flu was a while back, and I think it'll probably

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Speaker 1: be an interesting proxy or interesting to line it up

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Speaker 1: at least and see how Biden did then versus what

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Speaker 1: he's been up to now. Real quick, Dave, and Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: Ohio has got an interesting one for us, Dave, what's

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Speaker 1: up nothing? How you doing? Happy New Year? Happy New Year?

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Speaker 1: What's a new mayor? I am concerned about my city

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Speaker 1: of Cleveland going all liberal. We have a new mayor,

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Speaker 1: thirty five year old Justin Bibb, a community activist, and

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Speaker 1: he's got a new board oversee the police. It's a

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Speaker 1: civilian board of think ten or twelve people. One of

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Speaker 1: them is going to be tomorrow Rice's mother who Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: Rice was shot by Cleveland cop and she's going to

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Speaker 1: be on the board. And I think this city is

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Speaker 1: going to go through some hell. Is he a defund

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Speaker 1: the police guy. What's that? Was he a defund the

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Speaker 1: police guy? Yes he is. Oh he is still well.

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Speaker 1: I bet, I bet that he has pivoted from defund

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Speaker 1: police because the data is so clear. Buck Rand, Paul. Next,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be great, Dave. Thank you. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis, said Buck Sexton fund the EIB Network three