1 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor, a protection of I Heart 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Radio and Stuff Media. I'm Anneries and I'm Lauren Voge 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Obam and today we're talking about rubarb. I am so 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: excited to talk about me to rub barb is one 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: of my very favorite things. Oh, is it? Yeah? I 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: have to make a note to to that. Yeah. Yeah, 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: I I see here in our notes that you make 8 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: a really good rubarb pie, A killer one, you might say, 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: but not actually because the leaves are taxing leaves. No, 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: my biggest problem making this pie is that it's too 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: good and I never get any j K, j K, 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: kind of JK. My actual biggest problem is that a 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: lot of times I'll go to the store so excited 14 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: to get my ruebub for my rubi pie, and they 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: don't have any rubarb fresh heart frozen, and then I 16 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: have to make Yeah. Yeah, it is a very seasonal thing. 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 1: There's some early spring or some middle summer and other 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: than that, and sometimes it's sad and sad. Ruebarb is 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: so sad, it's kind of floppity, and I'm like, oh no, 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 1: no no. I was randomly today thinking about how pie 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: is often used for revenge in our media Oh yeah, 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: like a pie in the face poison pie pie with 23 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: your love the ones baked into it and then said 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: to you all the time. I blame Shakespeare, as you should, always, always, 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: always um. One of my bff she loves rue barb, 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: and I owe her very much for introducing me to 27 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: it because I didn't really know about it. Yeah, well, 28 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: it's not really a Southern thing. I grew up with 29 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: it because my grandmother, my my mom's side of the family, 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: grew some in her garden and so yeah, so we 31 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: had this big honking rhubarb plant, like it was like 32 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: two or three feet tall. Yeah. So all summer she 33 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: would she would go out and for for a side dish. 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: I think I think it counted as a salad for 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: for dinner. She she would get some rue barb and 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: stew it down with so much sugar and so much 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: red food coloring and so delicious. I love it, Yes, 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: love it. Also realized that when I was coming up 39 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: with my puns for the title for this episode, a 40 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: lot of good uh horror movies slash TV show funds 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: to reading them, as you should. But this brings us 42 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: to our question, what is it? Well, a rhubarb is 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: a flowering plant in the buckwheat family UM that looks 44 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: like a sort of watermelon colored celery and tastes like 45 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: the sourist apple orange combination. You could possibly imagine very 46 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: very tart um botanical classification room hybridium um, meaning it's 47 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: a hybrid of at least a couple of species within 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: the room genus. It's technically vegetable um, distantly related to 49 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: beat and shard and uh yeah. The plant grows multiple stocks, 50 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: each to hold up a single broad, triangular green leaf. 51 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: The stocks start thin and tender, but can really thicken 52 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: and stiffen if you let them go, and they range 53 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: in color from like silvery ruby red to neon pinkish, 54 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: often with a little bit of green striped or faded in. 55 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: The colors indicate the plant's genetic spread, not its ripeness. 56 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't like turn red or green when it's right. 57 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: That's just the color that it is. And you harvest 58 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: just the stocks um. You may have seen them in 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: the grocery store, like laid out in a bind, ranging 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: from maybe a half an inch across to about two 61 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: inches or so maybe a foot or too long for 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: a metric friends, that's about one to five across and 63 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: a third to two thirds of a meter, And these 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: stocks are technically petioles um, which are stem like bits 65 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: that connect leaves to the main body of a plant. 66 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: They're just wildly over exaggerated petioles over exaggerated, and you 67 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: do not harvest the leaves, as any said earlier, because 68 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: they are a bit toxic. They contain a few compounds 69 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: that you generally don't want to eat too much of um, 70 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: which in combination especially seems to be bad um. There's 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: some laxative compounds throughout the plant that also contribute to 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: its color um and and the leaves though also contain 73 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: a concentration of oxalic acid, which binds to to calcium 74 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: in the blood, thus making calcium unavailable for your body 75 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 1: to use bad times. You'd have to eat something close 76 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: to like eight kilos or about seventeen pounds in order 77 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: to really deadly level poison yourself um. But even a 78 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: few leaves can cause nausea and other digestive troubles. I 79 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: remember the first time I bought ruebar for from my 80 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: rubar pie. I never purchased it before, and I was 81 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: at my local publics and I saw it Wow, so pretty. 82 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: I've never even seen it before. And it came with 83 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: a note that said, don't don't do this, do not 84 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: if there is any leaf material, throw it away exactly, 85 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, what am I dealing with? Her? Nature? Terrified? 86 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: It is um uh fun fun point. A lesser concentration 87 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: of the aforementioned xalic acid um in rhubarb stems is 88 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: part of what gives them their tanginus nature living were 89 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: humans like living on the edge like this is almost poison. 90 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: But yes, the stalks they're fibrous again, kind of similar 91 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: to celery, but but a little bit more dense, and 92 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: that red pink color tends to be concentrated in the 93 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: in the thin skin of the stalks. They're usually treated 94 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: like a fruit um, though too tart to eat raw 95 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: for most people. I don't know what you get up 96 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: to um. They tend to be a sliced and cooked 97 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: down with plenty of sugar, often as all or part 98 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: of a pie. Feeling that coloration will tinge anything that 99 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: they're added to pink and can definitely stay in your 100 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: fingers and towels. Oh, I've done that a lot um 101 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: and yeah, the result will be a pinkish, slightly stringy dish. 102 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: That's a stringent that pucker um, sweet and sour, fruity, 103 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: a little bit floral, and a little bit greener grassy. 104 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: Mm hmmmm. Yeah. Uh. This is a plant that likes 105 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: the weather to stay a little bit chilly, even in 106 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: the summer, and it will come back year after year. 107 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: Good for you, barb. But before you go eating something 108 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: that looks like or even maybe called rhubarb, watch out. 109 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: Some plants look similar or even share the name, but 110 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: are not culinary rue barb. So you know, I don't know, 111 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: like the consult consult your local plant nursery. I was 112 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: trying to eat my rue barbie, and I got to 113 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: look out for these leaves, and now I gotta look 114 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: out for some fake when when in doubt, consult an expert. 115 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: A lot of warnings at the top in this one. Yeah, 116 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: nade the danger plant. Oh I like that. Well? What 117 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: about the nutrition? Though? Rhubarb alone has no fat to 118 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: speak of, a little bit of protein, whole bunch of fiber, 119 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: good smattering of vitamins and minerals, especially C and calcium um. 120 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: Most recipes for rubarb do add a lot of sugar, though, 121 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: which of course changes things just a little bit. Um. 122 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: It can indeed have a cathartic and laxative effect and 123 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: has been used medicinally for millennia for that. So it's 124 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: stronger in those species that we are cross pollinated to 125 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: create this milder, more tender, less tangy hybrid or hybrids 126 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: that we eat today. Extracts of ruburb are sold for 127 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 1: those effects too, and there are all sorts of research 128 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: is being done for other extracts of rubarb, including for 129 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: helping control blood sugar levels UM, protecting against long term 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: effects of Alzheimer's UM, and as anti anti virals, perhaps 131 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: especially in herpies treatment. A lot going on, not going 132 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: on there. O love it well. Numbers are kind of 133 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: hard to come by, but I can't say it is 134 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: huge in Alaska, both in popularity and in heights, because 135 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: it sometimes grows up to five feet that's wild. Yeah. 136 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: Towards the beginning of the twentieth century, Alaska was home 137 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: to Henry Clark, perhaps better known as the Rue Barbit 138 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: Cake Rue Barb Royalty. I know, I like that. If 139 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: I ever get my Kale scepter, then I'm moving on 140 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 1: to Alaska. Get my Rue barbed crown. I don't know 141 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: if that exists, but it should, it should, it should. 142 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: In some places, it's so popular in pies it's known 143 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: as the pie plant. I believe that's particularly northern United States. Um. 144 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: And while it is usually used in desserts, some cuisines 145 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: use it alongside meat in a potato grutten with other vegetables, 146 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: in lip bombs, fragrances, all kinds of things like that. 147 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: And it was once the thing. I had no idea 148 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: about this, and it's so excited, it's so cool, but 149 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 1: it fell out of favor until fairly recently. And we'll 150 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: get into that after a quick break for word from 151 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:09,719 Speaker 1: our sponsor, and we're back. Thank you, yes, thank you. 152 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: Rhubarb has a long and storied history. It most likely 153 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: originated in Asia. Rubarb roots were cultivated going back as 154 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: far as two thousands, seven hundred BC. The ancient Chinese 155 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: recommended the route medicinally for aiding indigestion. Like you said, 156 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: Lauren Um, it was used as a laxative. They called 157 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: it the Great Yellow. Records show ancient Romans, Greeks, and 158 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Arabs were familiar with rhubarb, and there's an ancient Persian 159 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: myth um that says rhubarb seeds gave birth to the 160 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: human Race's historians believe the Mongolians used rhubarb, perhaps especially 161 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: the Tartar tribes of Gobi, for hundreds of years at least. 162 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: Wild rubarb has grown along the Vulgar River, possibly introduced 163 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 1: there by Eurasians like the Huns. The name rhubarb is 164 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: the combination of two Greek words raw of the Volga 165 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: River or possibly shorthand for from the east, and barbar room, 166 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: the base of barbarian meaning foreign babble, which was used 167 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: for any non Greek language at the time. And I 168 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: sort of love that. It's it's like it's two words 169 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: meaning like, yeah, stuff over there, from over there. That way. 170 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: It's not from here. It's not from here, right. Marco 171 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: Polo found rhubarb when he journey to China in twelve 172 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: He wrote that it grew there in great abundance in 173 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: the northwestern mountains. Columbus wrote about his discovery rue barb 174 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: in a letter to Spanish monarchs upon his return from 175 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: his journey to the New World. But actually it wasn't 176 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: rubar because he wasn't in Asia as he believed, and 177 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: he'd heard that there was all his rubarb in Asia, 178 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: so he expected to find it it was all alive. 179 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: Misunderstanding perhaps, well that guy, that guy. In the early 180 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: fifteenth century, dried rubarb was a luxury good of the 181 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: silk road, all alongside porcelain and silk. Rhubarb. The best 182 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: quality rhubarb went for more than saffron or cinnamon. Wow, which, 183 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: as you spice nerds know that that's that's quite pricey, 184 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: quite pricey. From the sixteen hundreds to the eighteen hundreds, 185 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: the Romanov Empire monopolized rhubarb growth. They controlled the price, 186 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: and they made a lot of money doing so. At 187 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: one point it was worth more than it's weight in gold. 188 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: The Pope received a gift of rhubarb seeds in a 189 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: gold case with a note recommending he grow it in 190 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: the Vatican's gardens. It was a seventeen seventy report found 191 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: that if the UK could grow their own rhubarb, they 192 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: could save one million pounds equivalent of about thirty million 193 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: pounds today. Yeah, pharmacists pushed for locals to try their 194 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: hey end at growing their own rubarb. Seeds and roots 195 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: were brought to Western Europe in the seventeenth century, France 196 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: figured out that the stocks made a lovely sauce. Yeah. 197 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: Perhaps up until now it had been mostly medicinal, like 198 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: half and half. Maybe. Yeah, I would say it was 199 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: mostly medicinal. Um. And there's a fun reason for why 200 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: it's shooting out a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I'm going 201 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: sorry worries. The British were a bit more hesitant to 202 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: eat the stuff, but the scientists were interested in the 203 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: medicinal properties, which meant that in seventeen seventy, when Mijamin 204 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: Franklin shipped some rubarb from London to his friend in 205 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: the Colonies, John Bartram, it debuted in North America as medicinal, 206 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: not a food thing um. Important to note this was 207 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: the case pretty much everywhere, in part because of the 208 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: extreme darkness of the plant. The first recorded instance of 209 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: people eating it didn't occur until the seventeenth century, and 210 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: it wasn't until the introduction of sugar and then affordable 211 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: sugar that eating it became more common. If you're wondering though, 212 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: why pharmacist would encourage people to grow rubarb, one thing 213 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: I read said that at one time rubarb was so 214 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: prized for treating the plague and liver along and digestive ailments. 215 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: It was worth the same price as opium. After a 216 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: bout of dysentery struck down a garrison of soldiers in 217 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: seventy six, rubarb was recommended for future prevention. Yes, huh. Yeah. 218 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: It was also used as a die, for cleaning pots 219 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: and an insecticide. Mm hmmm, yeah, so I had a 220 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: lot of uses. Yeah, it's I think people might still 221 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: use extracts of those for those things today, Yes, I 222 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: think so. By eighteen o nine, Thomas Jefferson's plantation at 223 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Monticello was growing a type of rubarb that was apparently 224 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: used for its leaves. But I don't know. I don't 225 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: know if he had actual rubarb. He might have been confused, 226 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: um but and also as a medicine, so I'm not sure. 227 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: He wrote a note like or someone involved in this 228 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: road and note. I think it was Jefferson that was 229 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: like the or is delightful of spinach? And I'm like, 230 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: I don't think you were eating for par leaves, buddy, 231 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: Or maybe you had a very specific kind Oh now, 232 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: I mysteries of history exactly. I want to get to 233 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: the bottom of it. But I do have another fun 234 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: mystery history did bit because if you're wondering, how was 235 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: that Russian rubar monopoly broken? Yes, are probably poison are 236 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: probably partly poisoned. It's quite the tale, and let me 237 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: tell it. During this period, Scottish physician James and Mounds 238 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: was recruited first as a doctor for the Russian Naval Hospital, 239 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: then served in the Russian Army, then set up his 240 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: own private practice in Moscow before Empress Elizabeth named him 241 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: first royal physician. Unfortunately, Elizabeth died of illness in seventeen 242 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: sixty one. When Peter the Third took her place, he 243 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: appointed Mounts to the highest medical post available. Six months later, 244 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: Peter the third day historians suspect he was poisoned with 245 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: arsenic and string cal It's very thorough. Yeah, it's very thorough, 246 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: and the likely culprit his wife Catherine the Second, who 247 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: became Empress after his death, and her lover. Yes, and 248 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: this was not good news for a Mountainsi. Upon the 249 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: death of an emperor, those closest to him were frequently 250 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: exiled to Siberia or execute It not good bounds. He 251 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: was able to convince Catherine to allow him to retire 252 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: early due to quote ill health, and on his way 253 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: out to Scotland he smuggled with him rubarb. Yes, and 254 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: that was very illegal at the time, to preserve the 255 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Russian monopoly. He was awarded the Gold Medal from London's 256 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: Royal Society of Arts in seventeen seventy for bringing rubarba 257 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: to Britain. Afraid that the Russians would find him an 258 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: extract revenge, Moundsy slept with a loaded gun next to 259 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: his bed and a creed every room must have two doors, 260 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: every room. He in his place, he's running in. Some 261 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: rumors even suggested he had an underground escape passage built 262 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: like people were whispering about this guy who stole seats 263 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: from Russia and how he had a secret escape passage 264 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: in case they came to get him. That's wild, that's amazing. Hey, 265 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: respects to that dude. I know he's he barely avoids 266 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: in his mind exile and execution and then steal some 267 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: seats on the way out. Whoa, dude? Whoa? In eighteen fifteen, 268 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: physician James Gregory debuted Gregory's mixture, which was a laxative 269 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: with the main ingredient of rhubarb and side note. This 270 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: dude was famously argumentative. During a debate with a fellow academic, 271 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: Gregory knocked him down with a stick. He was charged 272 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: one pounds for assault, and that was pretty hefty for 273 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: the time, and he said he would pay double if 274 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: he could repeat the assault. Some historians have dubbed rhubarb 275 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: as the all brand of the Age of Enlightenment. All right, 276 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: the British continued experimenting with rhubarb, and in the nineteenth 277 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: century many farms sported acres of it. These experiments also 278 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: resulted in varieties that were better tasting and easier to 279 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: cook with, meaning that Brits were finally willing to eat 280 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: some rubarb. And this brings us to a new a 281 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: new time in rhubarb's life. The year seven, the occasion 282 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: the crowning of Queen Victoria. The rhubarb new and startling, fun, intriguing. 283 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: It was the beginning of a love affair between rhubarb 284 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: and Victorians. This new rhubarb wasn't finicky, but easy to 285 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: grow and reliably tender and sweet. It was love at 286 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: first taste, and they put that fruit in everything, jam's, jelly's, 287 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 1: custard pies. Fools. I always see fools, and I'm like what, 288 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: but it was a thing fools and puddings alongside meats 289 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: and cheeses and sauces and stuffings. The love of rue 290 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: barb bloed the creation of all this romanticism around it. 291 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: People believed the sweetest rhubarb was raised in darkness, under 292 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: controlled conditions. Rubarb was harvested in the dead of night 293 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: by torchlight. This was called forcing or forced rhubarb. And 294 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: this was an accidental discovery and it is still done 295 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: to this day. This is real. This isn't just fromanticism. Okay, 296 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: this isn't just some weird stuff like yeah, I think, 297 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's bad and real with buckets um 298 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 1: buckets are placed over rubarb and the plant is like 299 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: trying to reach sunlight that it never will, which I 300 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: feel is there as a metaphor in there, yes, wof 301 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: I side note, I think toy Story four jumped on 302 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: our sport metaphor for humanity things existentialism. We were there first, 303 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: but then that sport website was there before us. The 304 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: circle of Sport lives. But anyway, I've read accounts that 305 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: you can hear the rhubarb sells crackle as they grow. Yeah, yeah, 306 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: I've I've heard that in um In they have like 307 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: like darkened like warehouses essentially like like grow grow houses 308 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: that they grow it in and supposedly like during like 309 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: the height of it's really doing the thing. Yeah, you 310 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 1: can hear it. Just that's so cool. Yeah, but yeah, 311 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: this was somebody I'm pretty sure accidentally left a bucket 312 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: on one and they're like, oh hey, and then here 313 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: you go to the day would still do it um 314 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: And this was also the time when the price of 315 00:19:55,080 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: rhubarb dropped substantially. The Rubarb Triangle, which is look Hated 316 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: and West York Shore once produced of the world's sweet 317 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: forced rubarb supply. And this is a nine square mile 318 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: area with the towns of Rothwell or Leeds, Wakefield and 319 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: Morley as the points. I've actually seen some contention about 320 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: these points, but I think in general that area ish yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. 321 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: At the time there was a train and it was 322 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: called the Rhubarb designated for delivering rhubarb every day from 323 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: this area to King's Cross in London. Oh my god. Yes. 324 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: Rhubarb and custard became a staple for the working class, 325 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: alongside fish and chips like you might just say, and custard. Yeah. Yeah, 326 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: I definitely had some rubarb and custard while I was 327 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: in London, did you. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a 328 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: relatively shancy place, but it was you know, it was 329 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: one of those like tongue in cheek like wink wink 330 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: sort of dessert. Second. Yeah, it was so good. It 331 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: was like a crimebroulet with like a with like a 332 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: rhubarb like tom pot layer. It was. It didn't suck, 333 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: It didn't suck. Rubarb first appeared in American seed catalogs 334 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: in eighteen thirty nine, and in eighteen seventy eight. Rhubarb 335 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: or pie plant um as it was called, was mentioned 336 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,719 Speaker 1: in Jenny June's American Cookery book with the note this 337 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: is one of the greatest spring luxuries, though the quantity 338 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: of sugar required to be used with it renders it 339 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: rather expensive. Sugar maybe put in as long as your 340 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: conscience will let you, and a handful afterwards, as long 341 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: as your conscience just poured in there. Then. During World 342 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,360 Speaker 1: War One, back in the UK, the British government recommended 343 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: that its citizens grow rhubarb in their home gardens and 344 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: eat the whole plant. Leaves included. Uh, this caused a 345 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of illness and at least one death. Yeah. Um. 346 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: In seven, the U. S Customs Court in New York 347 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 1: ruled rhubarb to be classified as a fruit for tax 348 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: purposes because it's used as a fruit and the taxes 349 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: on importing fruits were lower than for vegetables. That it 350 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: reminds me of my favorite quote from the HITCHI Hears 351 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: Guide to the Galaxy Universe. Not that book, but it's 352 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: when I don't even remember who they were talking about, 353 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 1: but he said he's been dead for years tax reasons. Yeah, 354 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: I just associate rubarb as a fruit. Um. Let's talk 355 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: baseball baseball, Yes. According to a nineteen fifty six Sports 356 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 1: Illustrated article, the use of rhubarb to refer to a 357 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 1: desktop like like a fight. Yeah, yes, yeah, an old 358 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: timey fight, a dustep as they were called, came to 359 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: us from a very into baseball based argument in the 360 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: nineteen thirties between a Dodgers fan, which was Dodgers were 361 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: then out of Brooklyn and a Giants fan then out 362 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: of New York. Yeah. Oh gosh, very very intensive d 363 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: as they tended to be. And yeah, the Dodgers fan 364 00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: shot the Giants fan. Yeah, here's a quote. Bartender described 365 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: the incident to baseball writer Tom Mini as a rule barb, 366 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: though no one is quite sure why. Mini repeated the 367 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: word to Baseball reckon tour Jerry Schumacher and broadcaster Red 368 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Barbara picked it up after hearing both Mini and Schumaker 369 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: use it. Barbara later utilized the word frequently on his 370 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: radio broadcast of Brooklyn Dodger baseball games. He had an 371 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: immense listening audience, and the word soon passed into the language. 372 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,399 Speaker 1: I've never heard of this, but it's delightful. I have 373 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: heard somebody use it. I've seen it used in this sense. 374 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,239 Speaker 1: I had no idea. Um, it's just some bartender, like 375 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. The next time that that 376 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: I see a stiff argument occurring at a local bar, 377 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm going to be like, that's quite a rubob. Got 378 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: to use the trans Atlanta take and everything. It's important. 379 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: Apparently British background actors murmur rue barb to make it 380 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: look like they're having an actual conversation. And we were 381 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: talking about this very don't we say? Peas and carrots 382 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: and carrots is the one that I've heard. Yeah, I've heard, 383 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: I've heard a couple different ones. That's the one that 384 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: always sticks in my head, which is funny because researching 385 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: carrots right now behind the curtain. Thanks to Bona Petite 386 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: for the history around rubars and baseball, very helpful for 387 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: a century. Rubarb Road on the high of Queen Victoria's coronation, 388 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: but it all came crashing down after the World Wars. 389 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: Instead of being seen as hip and sweet, it was 390 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: unreliable and old fashioned. I saw many places they described 391 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: as something your grandmother would eat. Hey, recipes for rubarb 392 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: pie reviewed as interesting historical footnotes. Right, yeah, but things 393 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: are looking up again, so it's moving out of that 394 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: Perhaps shadow West Yorkshire forest rubarb was given the protected 395 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 1: designation of origin status in the early one. That's lovely. 396 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: Oh man, it makes me wonder about the rubarb I've had. Mhm. 397 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,360 Speaker 1: Next time, when I'm getting ready to make my power, 398 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay attention where it comes from. Oh absolutely, yeah. Yeah. 399 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: Of the two supermarket chains around Atlanta, the two main 400 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: ones at Kroger in Publix, I feel like my Kroger 401 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: specifically frequently has fresh rubarb that nobody ever seems to buy. 402 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: Other than me um and uh, And I've seen Public's 403 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: more frequently carry frozen rubarb, so I don't know. I 404 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: for a while I could count it pretty regularly at publics, 405 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: and then I couldn't. And then I went to Whole 406 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Foods and they didn't have it. I was kind of like, yeah, 407 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen it a Whole Foods. 408 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: I've seen it once, yeah, but I wasn't looking for 409 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: You're like, cool, it's very brightly colored. It is easy 410 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: to spot. Sometimes I see charred and get excited because 411 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 1: I think it. But it's not that happens to me 412 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: all the time, even if I'm not planning on getting ubar. 413 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 1: But like keeping tax exactly, I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, cool, cool, 414 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 1: I see you, I see you. I could buy that 415 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: maybe yeah, later date. Anyway, this is Atlanta specific grocery 416 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: chage rubar bows aside. Yeah, yeah, sorry, and or you're welcome, 417 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: yeah for anybody in Atlanta looking for rubarb. But this 418 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: about brings us to the end of our rubarb episode. 419 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: But we do have some more for you. We do, 420 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: but first we've got one more quick break for would 421 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: from our sponsor, and we're back Thank you, sponsor, Yes, 422 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: thank you, and we're back with this is this that'd 423 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: be if it ever reached the sunlight. But it won't. 424 00:26:52,359 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: It won't. It's so dark. I love it. Nicole wrote, 425 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm writing to you on my first ever solo trip. 426 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: I am in early twenties something, recently married Gal, who 427 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: just quit her first big kid job at a small 428 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: company that I have been with since before I graduated college. 429 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,479 Speaker 1: I quit that job and accepted a new position at 430 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 1: a very different company. I decided to use the week 431 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: between quitting the old job and starting a new one 432 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: to go on a short road trip to reset so 433 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: I don't bring any negativity from my last job into 434 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: the new one. I chose Asheville as my destination after 435 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: hearing your fantastic mini series on Ashville. Thank You. I 436 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: knew it was somewhere I had to visit and would 437 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: be perfect for this little trip. It has been such 438 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: an incredible experience so far. I am also traveling completely 439 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: alone for the first time. My husband and I both 440 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: agreed I needed to have this experience solo. That means eating, drinking, hiking, 441 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: and otherwise exploring alone. A year ago, I would never 442 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 1: even have thought of going out alone. But hearing about 443 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: your experiences with solo travel, it gave me the confidence 444 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: to just go for it, and I am having it 445 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: so far. My first stop in Asheville was a bookstore 446 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 1: where I picked up one of the blind Date books. 447 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: The cover with the craft paper and just write a 448 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: few words about the book on the front so you 449 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: don't judge it by its cover. That by the way. 450 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: I took my date to Hitting Ways, Cuba rooftop bar, 451 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: where I tried my first authentic dakiri and read my 452 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: Blind Date book with the beautiful view of the blue 453 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: ridge in the background. I also got a chance to 454 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: hit one of the breweries best Sarah Beers I've ever had, 455 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: and two below Honey Best Biscuits and Grits ever that evening. 456 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: So far, all the food and drinks I've tried have 457 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: been incredible, and there are so many incredible options for 458 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: vegetarian like me. I love food, but am usually limited 459 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: in my choices when going out to eat. Not so 460 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: in Nashville. Honestly, it is overwhelming, but in a good way. 461 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: It'll be so fun getting to try all the vegetarian 462 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: twist on those seven classics. Oh yeah, that's wonderful, awesome. Heck, yeah, yeah, 463 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: it's a it's a good place. It is is there's 464 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: lots of lots of wonderful food and drink options. It's 465 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: just stuff to do. Oh yeah yeah. So congrats to you, 466 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: and yeah, that sounds like you're having an amazing time. 467 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: It does. I hope, I hope that the that that 468 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: as as we are reading this, that the rest of 469 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 1: your trip was equally lovely yes, and that your new 470 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,719 Speaker 1: job is treating you well. Mm hmmm. Brooke wrote, I 471 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: was listening to the Watermelon episode while driving to a 472 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: magic conference magicians not the collectible card game for clarification, 473 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: and thought of the late great Ricky j oh I 474 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: can't believe we forgot Okay. Yes. As a magician and actor, 475 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 1: Jay was known for his ability to throw a playing 476 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: card into the rind of a watermelon. He would first 477 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: demonstrate his ability to throw cards with precision by piercing 478 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: the inner part of a cut watermelon, before asking, but 479 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: can he penetrate the even thicker pack of dermatis outer 480 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: melon layer. He would then throw card after card, saying 481 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: this scares the melon, this wounds the melon, until finally 482 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: one pierces the rind. This is only one small part 483 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: of Ricky Jay's amazing show, but a hilarious and unique one. 484 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: I have seen that bit. I love it so much. 485 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: Stage magic is one of my very favorite things. I 486 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: get so nerdy about it. And um and yes, Ricky 487 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: Jay's pattern and performances or beautiful sites to behold. That's yeah, 488 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: that sounds pretty awesome. I had not heard of it, 489 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,239 Speaker 1: so oh yeah, yeah, I used to Gosh, it used 490 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: to be on TV when I was growing up. Yeah, somewhere. Um, 491 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: I bet that it is on the internet. I would 492 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: wager that that is. Many things are many things are 493 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: these days. Oh gosh, we're on the internet right now 494 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: and you can find us there. Oh you can, yes can. Well. First, 495 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: thanks to both of them for writing. If you would 496 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: like to write to us, yes you can. 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