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Speaker 2: So Georgia beat Texas thirty to fifteen. Again, Georgia couldn't

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Speaker 2: do anything offensively and they beat Texas. So my big

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Speaker 2: takeaway on this was Carson Beck is no longer a

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Speaker 2: first round quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Like it's just not it is can't drag it is

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Speaker 1: he a second day quarterback?

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Speaker 2: I wrote down here, so it was twenty three of

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Speaker 2: four forty one. This is what Georgia talent, no touchdown,

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Speaker 2: three picks. I wrote down top of third round. I

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Speaker 2: mean when I watched him, I'm like, he feels he

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Speaker 2: feels like a third round pick. Georgia actually was decent

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Speaker 2: on third down, but they only had fourteen first downs.

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Speaker 2: Go to Austin and double the Longhorns. But quinn Ewers, Now,

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Speaker 2: Texas couldn't run the ball at all, and they almost

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Speaker 2: felt I will say this, Georgia has been in so

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Speaker 2: many of these big games over the last six years.

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Speaker 2: Georgia was totally ready for the moment. Texas has been

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Speaker 2: in about three of these. Two or three was sark.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they were ready. They were atrocious on

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Speaker 2: third down. They couldn't run the football. A quinn Ewers,

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Speaker 2: I thought. I still think because of his arm, he'll

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Speaker 2: get drafted somewhere in the first round. Somebody will think

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Speaker 2: they can solve him.

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Speaker 1: But I kind of.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Texas average with the best offensive line in

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Speaker 2: watched that game, and by the way, outside, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Oregon had two bad games and one. Ohio State lost,

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Speaker 2: but I didn't think played poorly. Bamas had a stinker,

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Speaker 2: George's had a stinker. Texas has had a stinker. This

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Speaker 2: is why I have a twelve game playoff.

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Speaker 3: This is I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think Ohio State to me is the most consistently

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Speaker 2: good team, whereas Oregon got Ohio State at home. You

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Speaker 2: gotta be careful label terrible against Boise State and terrible

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Speaker 2: against Idaho. I kind of look at this Texas game

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Speaker 2: and I think this is just one of those games

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Speaker 2: in this game six years, probably three games a year

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a personality game. And I've been

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Speaker 1: I've been critical over when it comes to Sark over

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Speaker 1: the years, but I've slowly come around. He's clearly an

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Speaker 1: excellent play caller. I saw him live. He's brilliant at that.

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Speaker 1: It's clear how hard he recruits and how much passion

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Speaker 1: he puts inside this program. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, he's a quarterback, right, That's who he is

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Speaker 1: at his core. And Kirby Smart is Saban's mentee, and

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Speaker 1: he's a crazy ass defensive guy. Like at his core,

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Speaker 1: he's a crazy defensive guy. I mean, we've seen it

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Speaker 1: tough guy. And usually quarterbacks like they're just not super

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Speaker 1: angry all the time. Sarks more intellectual, always more offense.

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Speaker 1: This was a game and Kirby said it after the game,

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Speaker 1: like we didn't come here to take pictures and do

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Speaker 1: all the superstar bs. Well, what happened in that game?

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Speaker 1: It was all about the line of scrimmage. What Texas

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Speaker 1: They had seven sacks and it felt like they had

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Speaker 1: of the ball and the way you can't to me,

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Speaker 1: you can't manipulate that stuff. I've been in these buildings,

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Speaker 1: like the head coaches personnel, it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not as much anymore, but that personality of a practice.

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Speaker 1: You can't fake that stuff. And you could tell from

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Speaker 1: this is a team. All they've heard about is everyone

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Speaker 1: They destroyed them upfront. I mean that Walker kid, I

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Speaker 1: mean he had three sacks. He was all over the backfield.

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Speaker 1: But they have seven sacks. And even Arch came in.

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Speaker 1: You could tell I was listen. I had money on Georgia,

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Speaker 1: but I then started feeling I was rooting for Arch

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Speaker 1: just isn't good enough to me. Carson back is a

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Speaker 1: I've won national championships with third day picks before you

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Speaker 1: ever heard sets of Benett and went back to backs

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Speaker 1: with that guy. Yeah, so I'm the Sabans and him

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Speaker 1: are comfortable playing with that. Or if you look at Sark,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean whatever they're paying Carson back. Kirby's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I did think though, because of the twelve team playoff,

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Speaker 2: it was the way tex Starks team's good.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Texas sucks by any means, Like, I

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Speaker 1: just think that was the overwhelming performance. George is probably

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Speaker 2: And I think it's how Texas had to lose to

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Speaker 2: win a national championship. Because this Texas team is so

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Speaker 3: They they win the hotel lobby. I mean, you come

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Speaker 1: A call live two weeks ago. They look remarkable at

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's like, oh no, now, last year before

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Speaker 2: the twelve team playoff, you don't want to lose like

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Speaker 2: this in college football. I mean, that'll take you from

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Speaker 2: with a twelve team playoff. If you want to win

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Speaker 2: a better than fifty percent chance they'll play again, and

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Speaker 2: the final four in the final, right right, So it's

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Speaker 2: like to me, as I watched it, I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 2: if Texas outplayed them and lost, it would be hard

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Speaker 2: and I mean, I'm writing down these numbers. They were

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Speaker 2: at home. And my take was, in a weird way,

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Speaker 2: we've talked about March madness before. These Kansas teams. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's like, no, it's okay to get your butt handed

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Speaker 2: in December, because in March you can put the tape

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Speaker 2: back into your team and say, remember this team that

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Speaker 2: knocked you out.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing in March madness, that's a good example.

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Speaker 1: What's his name? Bennett just retired in Virginia and he

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Speaker 1: had that historic loss in the first round, and obviously,

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Speaker 1: like any great coach, if you go tournament enough, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have some awful losses because only one game and

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Speaker 1: Well, my take is really on both these two teams,

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Speaker 1: and to me, if Georgia's defense plays like that, they

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Speaker 1: just smother you. But both quarterbacks, if you're playing another

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Speaker 1: feel he just felt awful, Like it felt like unplayable.

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Speaker 1: if you put Shador like the way he's playing on

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Speaker 1: one of these teams, I would have a lot more confidence.

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Speaker 1: I can't just with a straight face pick Georgia to

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Speaker 1: win the Natty. I don't trust the quarterback Quinn Yours like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's that good. Yeah, right, well, Howard.

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Speaker 1: I will find out as the season goes on. Aller

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Speaker 1: made some great plays against USC, but he's got to

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Speaker 1: do it against you know, he's got to do it

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Speaker 1: You know with all the top teams in college football

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Speaker 1: is like their quarterback, do they get overwhelmed in a game?

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Speaker 1: Throw three or four? Both those quarterbacks could have thrown

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Speaker 1: like five picks each. I mean their balls were bouncing

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Speaker 1: off the other color jersey countless times. They looked overwhelmed.

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Speaker 1: They really did, even Carson Beck, who was just I

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Speaker 1: And they've gotten into these spots, especially on the road.

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Speaker 3: Year three they had him. They have two playable offensive

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Speaker 1: You could put him anywhere and he'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: They have two playable offensive tackles. We're three years in,

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Speaker 2: It's not Oregon or Georgia or Texas, but it's in

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Speaker 2: You know, this is La. People run. You can get backs, corners, receiver,

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Speaker 2: young offensively, I think he can rationalize the losses and

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Speaker 2: a center, and I do think they'll be better next year.

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Speaker 2: I just think I can assure you Jen Con and

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Speaker 2: the administration of the Boosters. They didn't think they were

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Speaker 1: Didn't think they were going seven and five either.

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Speaker 3: Five and seven. Just keep your fingers crossed.

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Speaker 2: John Middelkoff, former NFL scout three and out to his

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Speaker 2: podcast Good See Anybody, See You Colin.

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Speaker 1: The volume.

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