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How old is he? 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 6: Five? 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: No, he's not, but. 39 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 6: Here we go. 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 7: He's he's not that egregiously old. 41 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: However, what's a little bit concerning about this was the process? 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: Meaning I believe, if if the reports are true, that 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: he just kind of found the judge that was a fan. 44 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: He was denied at least on two occasions, and then 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: he just kind of found the right judge to help push. 46 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: This about what you know until is who you know? 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, yeah, but I think that, unfortunately, 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: is not how our judicial system was set up, nor anything. 49 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: Within our government. Right. 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 8: I would disagree with that. I wholeheartedly would disagree with that, 51 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 8: and I lived in DC. It is all about who 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 8: you know first before it's what you know. That's I 53 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 8: feel like that's politics at its best. 54 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 7: Yeah. 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: Right, I'm not trying to argue that. I'm just I mean, 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: we don't need to argue on the basis of like 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: a legislative, executive and judicial branch were set up for. 58 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot about checks and balances. I 59 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: would just say there's two things that are interesting about 60 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: this the process. The NCAA could appeal. It's just an 61 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: injunction and they might find a judge you rules in 62 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: their favor. So maybe's so they know and that he 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: would be denied again. If I was Trinidad Chombless, after 64 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: having this season that I had and then looking at 65 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: this quarterback draft class, I don't know that I wouldn't 66 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: just go I'm gonna take my chances. To me, he 67 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: would immediately be the second best quarterback in this draft 68 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: class behind Fernanda Mendoz. I think he has more upside 69 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: than Tysimps, and ty Simpson probably has as good a 70 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: film when you look at well how he played from 71 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: the pocket type of pass or he is. 72 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 7: I think Chombless has more upside, you know. 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: I think he's still a bit raw. I think he's 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: got a bit of minute playmaking ability to him. And 75 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: I just I feel like NFL scouts and town evaluators 76 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: would like that. The problem is, if they're taking a 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: kid high in the draft, they probably wouldn't want to 78 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: pla him right away. 79 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 7: I don't know that he's ready for that yet. 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: So coming back to school makes sense from that standpoint. 81 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: But if you come back next year, you exhaust all 82 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: your eligibility and then you put yourself in that draft 83 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: class where I don't know that he's gonna be the 84 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: fourth best quarterback in that class. 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 7: He might be the fifth best. 86 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of question marks for me, 87 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: I feel like in regards to dragging us out where 88 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: if he does go back to Old Miss, like could 89 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: the NCAAPOL win and then he's in no man's land. 90 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: Maybe potentially would have to go in the supplemental draft, 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: which isn't ideal. Maybe it would be better for him 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: long term, because like whoever takes him at that point 93 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: is probably addressed the quarterback spots. So they're taking him 94 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: and they truly would have to develop him. But this 95 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: situation to me still feels murky. And if I'm Trindad 96 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Chombless and you quarterback, like, you want things to be decisive, 97 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: you want them to be definitive. So I don't want 98 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: to be going into springball not knowing whether not the 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: rug could get ripped from out underneath us. Till Levar's point, 100 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: if the NCAA finds a judge that they know he's gonna, 101 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: you know, be in their favor. 102 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 6: Do you think of nil didn't exist, he would just. 103 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 7: Be he'd be the NFL, he'd be going to the 104 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 7: draft yet. 105 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: And I just wonder how long is this going to 106 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 4: drag on for? Because this is what the third time, 107 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 4: the third, the second or third time he's had to, 108 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 4: you know, try and get this, you know, get the 109 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 4: extra year of eligibility. And then he finds this the NCAA, 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 4: no doubt you know, is mentioned is going to push 111 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 4: back on it. I just wonder how long is this 112 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: going to drag out for? 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 6: Before? 114 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 8: I mean, wouldn't the timeframe be based upon the start 115 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 8: of the season, because if they can't get a if 116 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 8: some way somehow. I don't know how legal works, I 117 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 8: don't don't. Don't get me to say some stuff that 118 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 8: that isn't true, But I mean you can appeal that. 119 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know the limits on being 120 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 8: able to appeal, but you would assume if you don't 121 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 8: get an appeal, that upholds him not being able to play, 122 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 8: you know, this upcoming season before season starts. I mean, 123 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 8: how does that work if he gets into say, game 124 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 8: three of the season, and then they come back and say, what, like, 125 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 8: he's ineligible to play? Okay, Well if he's an eligible, dude, 126 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 8: those wins still count. Like, I feel like, if they're 127 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 8: going to get it done, don't they have to definitively 128 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 8: make a decision or some way somehow before the season 129 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 8: gets started, because once it gets into the season, why 130 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 8: continue to fight it. He's already started to play anyway, 131 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 8: I mean, am I off on that? That just seems 132 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 8: like that would be strange. 133 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: So I think the NCAA is trying to create some 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: guardrails around eligibility and and I get it. I canpletely 135 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: understand that the one the Betiaco case, and so there 136 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: is grounds for them potentially winning an appeal. 137 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 7: However, it's not. 138 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Like the NCAA has got a great track record overall 139 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: in court, and so it kind of depends. I mean, 140 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: if you look at the history of the NCAA, they've 141 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: backed down or seen seen some appeals dismissed as as mood. 142 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 7: After grant waivers. So the hard part is. 143 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: The appeal I would think is likely whether or not 144 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: the NCAA can win, It's really going to come down 145 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: to an appellate court's view the NCAA's denials as a 146 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: like was it fair. 147 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 7: So it's it's tough. 148 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't know the case well 149 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: enough to have an opinion in that regard, but I 150 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: do think they feel like it's getting to a point 151 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: where they they need to protect. I don't know if 152 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: it's amateurism is going to be the word for this, 153 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: or just the frameworks that are in place now around 154 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: how long someone should be able to play college athletics. 155 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: And I do think that's at the essence of what 156 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: this is is you have if Trinida Chambas comes back, 157 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: you're taking a scholarship away from probably a high school 158 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: kid at least, if not maybe another college kid who 159 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: legitimately has another year of eligibility within those four years 160 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: that you typically used to have. 161 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 8: I made that point the other day, and you know, 162 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 8: when we were talking about the basketball player that from 163 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 8: Alabama I think it was Alabama was Alabama and him 164 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 8: trying to go for that extra year. Again, I look 165 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 8: at it as kind of a case to case type 166 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 8: of deal where if the kid is in the you know, 167 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 8: transfer portal or trying to be eligible for an extra 168 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 8: amount of years and they're taking those scholarships away, I 169 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 8: would say it needs to be based off of one 170 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 8: the fact that they probably ended up in a JUCO 171 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 8: because they couldn't get a scholarship because somebody was there 172 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:15,359 Speaker 8: longer than what the usual or the average is potentially 173 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 8: or injury, you know, depending on the level and the 174 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 8: amount of injuries. I can understand. I can understand it 175 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 8: if it's not if it doesn't fall into those two categories, 176 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 8: and maybe like a hardship, a hardship, you know, like 177 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 8: somebody who goes on a mission or something to that effect, 178 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 8: or they went to the military first, like you know, whatever. 179 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 8: If it is a unique situation in a circumstance, I 180 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 8: don't have a problem with it. But if we're talking 181 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 8: about and which by the way, and some other I'm 182 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 8: not sure other sports, but they're granting like fifty years 183 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 8: of eligibility like actually being able to play five years. 184 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 8: I believe if I if I understand it correctly, like 185 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 8: without a red shirt or any type of a shirt taken, 186 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 8: you're actually getting five years. 187 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: Is there any accuracy to that queue? I don't want 188 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 3: to put out. 189 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: Well, they're trying to pass a measure or some people 190 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: who are kind of behind pass trying to pass a 191 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: measure to say you have five years to play five 192 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: But they're they're granting fifth years for individuals who there's 193 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: there's three things. Obviously there's somewhere they'll talk about the 194 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: injury situation or whatever the situation was, uh in regards 195 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: to a red shirt, what have you. That's kind of 196 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: lingered over, almost like your hardship waiver kind of. There's 197 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,679 Speaker 1: there's some cases that fall into that category. But the 198 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: one that this falls into and that most now are 199 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: bringing up is the case of jucos. Is they don't 200 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: believe that the JUCO, the junior college experience should count. 201 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 7: As a year of eligibility because it's not a play. 202 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 3: I agree. 203 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 8: I agree because you might have to use JUCO or 204 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 8: to me, JUCO is not about somebody who didn't have 205 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 8: good grades to be eligible. 206 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: That's what it used to be. 207 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 8: You go to JUCO because you didn't, you know, make 208 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 8: it into college because of your grades, or you ended 209 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 8: up getting in trouble out of school. 210 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 3: Boom boom boom. You go to a JUCO. 211 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 8: Gu right, Okay, So so I can understand if if 212 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 8: you've gone to a JUCO and you've left a school, 213 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 8: I feel like that might be a parameter that needs 214 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 8: to be addressed. Is if you made it into a 215 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 8: power for school, a major school, and you messed it up, 216 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 8: yes you should get another chance. But that doesn't mean 217 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 8: that your clock didn't start right. But if you ended 218 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 8: up out a JUCO out of high school, then yeah, 219 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 8: you do get a reprieve, like if your grades weren't 220 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 8: it's good. Okay, that's nobody's going to do that type 221 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 8: of a deep dive on why you ended up out 222 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 8: of JUCO out of high school. Most kids aren't getting 223 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 8: scholarships like they used to out of high school because 224 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 8: of all the things that are going on with the portal. 225 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 3: So I don't think if you have to go to 226 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 3: a JUCO, it'd be. 227 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 8: No different than hitting towards a prep school something to 228 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 8: that effect, based off of the necessity of your trying 229 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 8: to buy more time to see if you could potentially 230 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 8: end up in a major university to be able to compete. 231 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, but I. 232 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: Do still like there's still a sense of like unfairness 233 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: to the kid who's coming out of high school that 234 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,479 Speaker 1: is now competing. 235 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 7: With a kid who did go you know, away from 236 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 7: high school. 237 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: They went somewhere else, whether it was grades or whether 238 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: it was you know, they're physically not quite ready either 239 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: they're not good enough yet, whatever the case may be, 240 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: they're still like in competition with this guy in most 241 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: cases just for a scholarship. 242 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 7: For the remaining you know, three or two years. But 243 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 7: now it's for all or that. 244 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: That seems a little bit of a disadvantage to me, 245 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: to the high school student athlete. 246 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 7: And I don't like that portion of it. 247 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: Well, it's here, it's here now, I know that it's here. 248 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: It is. 249 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: But again, what what solves all that is if you 250 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: have you know, five years to play five because now 251 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: it opens that up a bit more for that kid 252 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: to go get the development they need, either again academically 253 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: or you know, physically, and they still aren't necessarily impeding 254 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: on that high school athlete as much as they used to. 255 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: But I do think that Juco years should count, just 256 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: the sense it's not high school. So, like I understand 257 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: it falls into this purgatory of eligibility within college athletics. 258 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: But we're like, I feel like we're penalizing young people 259 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 1: for what kids are then getting to college. Who are 260 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: you know, let's just say eighteen years old, And the 261 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: vast majority of cases are choosing to do and they're 262 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: choosing to do this now because of the business of it, 263 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: as Jonas pointed out, not because they care that much 264 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: about a degree, not because they care about anything other 265 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: than just trying to stand there to get money. 266 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 8: Well, I don't disagree with that, to be I mean, 267 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 8: honestly speaking, I do not disagree with that that sentiment. 268 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 8: But again, I think there's so many unique cases connected 269 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 8: to you know, Juco's. I have a Juco's son, you 270 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 8: know what I mean. And it's a longer, longer conversation, 271 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 8: but I don't think that he should have lost it, 272 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 8: and he wasn't. The one that lost his eligibility was 273 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 8: going to have to fight for his eligibility. He chose 274 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 8: not to, didn't need it, but it would have been 275 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 8: nice to be able to see him play one more time, 276 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 8: you know, And it was extreme circumstances. 277 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: So I get it. 278 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 8: I definitely get it, but I definitely feel like there 279 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 8: are reasons why there should be that consideration. 280 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 6: It's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. 281 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with 282 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 4: the Herd. 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Coming up, 310 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 4: we'll call it a little over fifteen minutes from now. 311 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 4: We are going to tell you about somebody who's say 312 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: a good idea in the NFL and they've decided to 313 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: do it themselves. 314 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,119 Speaker 6: We'll get into that for you here on FSR. 315 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 4: A reminder though, with the iHeartRadio app, you can stream 316 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: us wherever you happen to be. 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That should 327 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 8: be ten dollars for real? 328 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 7: That Oh, what's a ten dollars fine? 329 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 8: That should be an invoked ten dollars fine? But go ahead, 330 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 8: go ahead, Jonas going ten dollars. That should be another 331 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 8: ten dollars right there? That should be another ten dollars right, at. 332 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 7: Least a proper rebuttal that was a proper rebuttal will not. 333 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 8: There's at least ten dollars and there's at least a 334 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 8: ten dollars fine in there right What just happened right there? 335 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 6: I don't think things should be a ten dollars fine. 336 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 8: I don't see I think the system is rigged against me. 337 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 8: And not again and it's rigged in a good way 338 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 8: against Jonas and Brady. 339 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 6: I was just trying to pay off that tease. 340 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 8: Okay, all right, mm hmm that should be ten dollars 341 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 8: to look at you, you stupid ten dollars. 342 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 6: This is ridiculous, so stupid. 343 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: What's wrong with you? 344 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 1: You're never going to be able to afford a new 345 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: car on those terms? 346 00:17:59,440 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 6: You got it? 347 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 3: Oh, he can already afford a new car with twenty, 348 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 3: already has thirty, do it? 349 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 6: You got two twenties. 350 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 8: I see, I've seen power wheels trucks that costs more. 351 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 6: Damn damn. 352 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: By the way, I did get my h I get 353 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: like periodically, I'll get a Blue Book rating to let 354 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 4: me know like the value of the truck. 355 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 6: And it's just going. 356 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: Down by the month, just just continues to go down. 357 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 4: But we're approaching four hundred thousand miles on that Tacoma 358 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 4: So we were rocking and rolling here, all right. So 359 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: that said Brady Quinn, you're gonna have to take center 360 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 4: stage here because you identified it. 361 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, clips alright, let's do this all right. 362 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: So football season's over and full transparency here, we try 363 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: to come up with some different ideas. 364 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 11: So let us know if you like it or not. 365 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 11: But this is going to be a new segment on Friday. 366 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: It's called the worst Thing I Heard this week and 367 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: it's two things that we got to we get to 368 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: pick from. So Lorena, if you would please play one 369 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: of the clips and we'll go from there. 370 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 12: But we would have to educate This is always a 371 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 12: tough conversation to have and it's not even popular thinglist 372 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 12: and the truth, we would have to educate significant others 373 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 12: who may have been pregnant during the season. We're going 374 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 12: to have a baby during the season, and you'd have 375 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 12: to educate them on you. 376 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 3: Have this baby undo of the season. 377 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 12: That father has to play good football. 378 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 6: Right, it's a day by day production business. 379 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 12: He has to be ready to perform and go out 380 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 12: there and play. And what I say that is you 381 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 12: need to let him sleep. He needs to be in 382 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 12: another room detached. You have to explain to the mother like, hey, 383 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 12: listen being waking up for the midnight feedings. After the season, 384 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 12: he's full metal jacket. 385 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: You do whatever you want with him. 386 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:50,719 Speaker 12: That he can change every day and in the season, 387 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 12: he's got to have a different priority. 388 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: All right, Since you do that context that was old 389 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: miss tight ends coach Joe Judge, who was talking in 390 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: a core room under oath. I don't know, but either way, 391 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: it's just it's not a great look if you even 392 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 1: if you want to say that. 393 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 11: You can't say that publicly, right, Like you got to 394 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 11: say that behind closed doors or something. I just I 395 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 11: can't believe he actually said that out loud, And I 396 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 11: don't even know if he was provoked to. I think 397 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 11: it feels like this is something that Joe Judge said. 398 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 11: Mind you, this is the head coach of the New 399 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 11: York Giants. 400 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 4: Like just I mean, look you to his defense, it 401 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: did work. I mean, Chamli's got another year of eligibility. 402 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 4: So whatever Joe Judge's testimony was, apparently that that helped 403 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 4: the case. 404 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 7: That's the other thing. What does that have to do 405 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 7: with this eligibility? 406 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Like I don't know the context of what, why or 407 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: when he was even asked, but like what does. 408 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 7: That have to do with anything? 409 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: Mmm? Well, I don't know. 410 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 8: I don't know the back back story or of of 411 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 8: what you just asked, but I will say, no matter 412 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 8: what the backstory is, that's a whow that's wild as 413 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 8: hell to say that out loud. 414 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: That's wild. 415 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 8: That's because I mean they say what they say, faith, family, 416 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 8: and football, and and some would say in that order. 417 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: Now, I don't know do you rank them? Do you? 418 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: Is it just a holy trinity? Do you do? 419 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 8: You know if you're in the football world, how does 420 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 8: that work? I just know I would never choose anything. 421 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 8: I don't know that, to be honest with you. 422 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: And I know in the. 423 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 8: Bible it kind of says that you you should because 424 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 8: you know you you know, dude was about to sacrifice 425 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 8: his kid. But I don't know that I would choose 426 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 8: faith over family, let alone football. I would never choose 427 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 8: anything over family. 428 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,719 Speaker 7: Right, let's get through the clips. 429 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: So these are intended to be a long winded discussion 430 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: between so let's just get this. 431 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 7: The next one is from rfk our. 432 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: Us, Secretary of of what health and Human Services whatever 433 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: it is, Lorna, can you play the clip? 434 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 10: And I said, I'm not scared of a germ. You know, 435 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 10: I used to smart cocaine the toilet seats and I 436 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 10: know this disease will kill me. 437 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 7: All right, So that was well, we got one more. 438 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 7: We do have one more, but. 439 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: That is uh, that's something that I don't think you 440 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: ever expect a government official to say out loud. 441 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know what, that's somebody who's lived a 442 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,120 Speaker 4: little bit, all right. That is somebody who's who's lived. 443 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 7: Alife relatable, that relatable. 444 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 4: Guys relatable, and that's somebody who's seen a bad Yeah, 445 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 4: it's the bad side of health. Okay, if you if 446 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: you're really going sideways and that to turn things around. 447 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 4: Have you seen RFK. I think he's in his seventies. 448 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 4: Guy's in great shape now, it looks awesome. But back 449 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 4: in the day used to do blow off toilet seats. 450 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: Who didn't. I can't relate to that. I can't. 451 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 8: I've never done blow I've never bumped. I've never done that, 452 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 8: so I can't. I can relate to being jacked up 453 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 8: in a restroom, though, and it didn't kill me, so 454 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 8: but I do know that whatever the germ he's talking about, 455 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 8: if he's using that as a reference, then I don't. 456 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 3: I don't want that germ. 457 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: By the way, speaking of can I just ask this 458 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: question real quick? What what did the wagon call the 459 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 4: where you face the other way on. 460 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 3: The Did you ever BUMPQ? 461 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: No, No, I've never done any sort of drug like that. 462 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 7: I honestly, what the wagon? 463 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: That was like a move that he had. 464 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's it's the best way to uh to 465 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: handle yourself. If you're blacktail drunk, you have to go 466 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: to the bathroom, you just face the opposite way. That 467 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: way if you pass out toilet top, that's right. 468 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, oh, instead of falling forward, just you just pass 469 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 6: out on top. A genius. 470 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: But what is it called? 471 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 7: I forget? I know that's terrible. All right, we got 472 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 7: one more. 473 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: Let's listen to Mick Cronin, the head coach of you 474 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: said men's basketball, talk about the type of player he wants. 475 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 9: Get me to find me the biggest nastiest vodka drink 476 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 9: in Eastern European you can. 477 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 3: It's I tell yo's beating. 478 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 9: All these agents from all the world are coming in. 479 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 9: I guess it's just fine, you know, just find some 480 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 9: guy used to you know it used to like wrestle bears. 481 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 3: That's a lane or something. 482 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 6: It's fair. It's fair. 483 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: Listen, recruiting's wide open now. And so he's saying, look, 484 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 4: if you've got to go out and find somebody, find 485 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: me that guy, you know, find me of Latte divach, 486 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: you know, flyd me somebody like that who's got lung 487 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 4: darts hanging out of his mouth. 488 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: I do think for a team, like every team needs 489 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: a I don't know, kind of a bad bad guy 490 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: on it, you know, like it's it's it's almost as 491 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: if that guy helps keep things in check in in 492 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: a way. 493 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 7: I don't know. 494 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: I think it's it's kind of good for the locker room. 495 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: It's good to have that one guy. Like I think 496 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: about the Bulls with Dennis Rodman. I think like people 497 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: were kind of like that's maybe not scared. Maybe some 498 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: were scared. They're just kind of weirded out by how 499 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: he was. But he played with a certain type of 500 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: intensity and physicality and the way he played maybe some 501 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: would call a borderline dirty that it made you second 502 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: guess things. I mean, I'll say this, if you looked 503 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: at a Dominican Sue, and Dominican Sue was an incredible player. 504 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: You know what else would get in the mind is 505 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: how dirty he was, and like it wouldn't always come out, 506 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: but there were some things he did that could be 507 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: considered dirty. 508 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 7: And I think in the back of a quarterback's. 509 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: Mind, in the back of the offensive line, whoever he 510 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: was going up against you. Always knew that might be 511 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: a potential part of the whole thing, right, And that 512 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: plays into the mental aspect. If you're not focused on 513 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: executing your job every play and you're concerned a little 514 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: bit about something else, you're a bit distracted. 515 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 7: So I do see it. I just I don't think 516 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 7: that's as bad as RFK. 517 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 4: No, I think, although I think Joe Judge is worse 518 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 4: than RFK. RFK was a moment of honesty, uh, and 519 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 4: a moment of relatability for every you know, drug addict 520 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:22,479 Speaker 4: to turn their life around. 521 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: Let's hear it one more time. Let's hear it. Let's 522 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 3: hear it the toylet. 523 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 6: I'm not scared of a germ. You know. 524 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 10: I used to snart cocaine toilet disease, and yeah, I 525 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 10: know this disease will kill me. 526 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 3: By the way, to hear the easily the wowdest thing 527 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: I've heard all week. And and I was just gonna 528 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: say about the radio show too. 529 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: Theov's immediately to the point like he was like, oh yeah, 530 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: like one more time with THEO Vaughn. 531 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he really did. 532 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 10: Clearly he said, I'm not scared of a germ. 533 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 6: You know. 534 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 10: I used to snart, cocaine, toilet disease, and yeah, I 535 00:26:59,280 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 10: know this. 536 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 7: Look he's been there too. 537 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 4: That's the that's the relatability part, Like, oh yeah, I 538 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 4: know what you're talking about. 539 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 6: That's the best part. 540 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 8: I mean, he's he clearly when he said yeah, he 541 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 8: thought about multiple different places that he snored at cocaine, 542 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 8: off of. 543 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: Which the visual too, because like the look on his 544 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: face has like, been there, done. 545 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 6: That, dude, you know I'm going to go. 546 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 4: I think Joe Judge is the worst, only because Joe 547 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 4: Judge is basically encouraging and trying to get brand new 548 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: parents to accept the fact that the father is going 549 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 4: to be absent and he should be allowed to be absent, 550 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 4: especially if it's during the season. 551 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 6: I think that's the worst of the two. 552 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: I will say this, I haven't looked at the comments 553 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: and reactions from both. 554 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 7: But from not not as far as not a lot, but. 555 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: From there's been there's been some really head scratchers about 556 00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: that one. 557 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 7: People were like, why would you ever say this? 558 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: So uh, But I also feel like you can make 559 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: that case about r FK, which is sounded like he 560 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: was trying to make a case for like the severity 561 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: of something and using his past experience. 562 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 7: But good god, I mean, hey, the r f. 563 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 4: K one's the worst talking about somebody who you know 564 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 4: was right about a lot of stuff a long time ago. 565 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 6: RFK. He called his shot. 566 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 4: Long time ago, much like Brady on NFL on Wednesday 567 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 4: games playing on Wednesday, RFK, Dude. 568 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 7: I take Tuesdays. 569 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: And by the way, we never have a chance to 570 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: get into us with doctor Child because you guys kept 571 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: wanting to talk to him about here, you know, argument. 572 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 8: With with Ryan Leaf. But I didn't want to talk 573 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 8: about that. That was Jonas. I want to talk about 574 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 8: his biting technique. 575 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: Okay, no, no, no, no, hold on, let me just say, 576 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: take a step back. You're right, you want distract about 577 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: a mixed martial arts that he doesn't even do or train. 578 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: Jonas wanted to talk about the Ryan Leaf situation. I 579 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: was more curious to dive into, like how he views 580 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: as a former team doc, you know, the rest that 581 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: the players get, how beneficially he believes it to be 582 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: any studies they've got, And then if it would make 583 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: sense because he was he was claiming for with the 584 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: with the two bye weeks and what they do off 585 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: of the long travel that that's how they'll be able 586 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: to make up some of the like the safety for 587 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: the players. 588 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 7: I'm like, well, why won't we just move around days? 589 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Like instead of having five days arrest, you could get 590 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: six if you were able to figure out we're gonna 591 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: have a game on a Tuesday, and then they'll have 592 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: a game Monday night. The falling, Like, you could figure 593 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: this out in a manner that would actually help space 594 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: it out more for them if you just incorporated more 595 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: primetime games on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and and you know, 596 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: Sunday Monday. 597 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 4: And by the way, if we're playing the blame game 598 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 4: on the Doctor Chow interview, I was more worried about 599 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 4: us not crashing into the hard network out, which we did. 600 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 4: H I was waiting to get a countdown from the back, 601 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 4: so that that was really my concern there. 602 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 3: Oh wow, did you just roll somebody up here? 603 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 1: Right? 604 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 6: I just got rolling. If we're rolling, let's roll, get to. 605 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 3: Roll on everybody. Everybody gets to roll on. 606 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 7: So that again, Jonahs. 607 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: Stay away from that, ye yo. Off of the two 608 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: pros and a cup of Joe's. 609 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 4: Not Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas Knox 610 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 4: of the air. Coming up next, though, we are going 611 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 4: to have a h a team in the NFL that 612 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 4: saw a good idea and decided, do you know what, 613 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 4: We're gonna go ahead and steal that. 614 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 6: That's yours here on FSR. 615 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 616 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and 617 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 618 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 619 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 3: No pump it up, got him? No no, no. 620 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 13: Yeah yeah yeah, toilet seats got they got the blow, 621 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 13: take a bone, take a both, do it, do it. 622 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: Ain't no terms stop me, ain't no terms stop me. 623 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: Come out, come. 624 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 6: Out way. 625 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 13: Yeah yeah yeah. 626 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 4: So the ravishing Rick Rude hip swivel, it's gone, well, 627 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 4: it's gone. 628 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 6: Patty speaks, uh has turned it. 629 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: Borderlines an island like it's like he really really gets 630 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 4: into it, like it's a it's a thrust. 631 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 6: Every time. 632 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: Every revolution is like a more intense thrust from Patty's got. 633 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 8: Some to him. 634 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, settle settle down now, Patty body trying to 635 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: break anything. 636 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 4: Wait, I met your mom. Just a sweet lady. Does 637 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 4: she know this side of you or does this slowly 638 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 4: come out over the last couple of months. 639 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 14: Let's just say she drinks to forget sometimes. 640 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 6: Okay. 641 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 14: Also, I haven't updated them while we're there. I actually 642 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 14: haven't updated my head size. Remember we talked about that 643 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 14: last week. 644 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, did you find Yeah? 645 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 14: No, no, no, I actually found the Yes, not fits. 646 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 14: I just I actually have my head size from it. 647 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 14: And guys, it's seven and three fourths. 648 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: That's a lie. I'm not I'm not lying. We measured it? 649 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 7: No, no, no, I'm not measured. Did you put an 650 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 7: actual hat on? 651 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 14: I haven't had a fitted hat in like ten years. 652 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so then you don't know like you got to 653 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: go put a fitted hat on, because I'll be honest, dude, 654 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone with a snapback. 655 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 7: I mean that thing was. 656 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: Hanging on on the last last it was it was 657 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: like it wasn't even like I mean, it was like 658 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: like fi laid out. I've never seen a dude where 659 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 1: a hat look like that. 660 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 6: All right, and I'll buy one. 661 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 14: I'll go buy a Seahawk Championship like fitted one or 662 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 14: something all that. 663 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, go celebrate. I'm just saying I don't think you 664 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: need to buy it. I just want to see if 665 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: you try it on, and you need to have video 666 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: evidence of this what size, because I guarantee you're like 667 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: at an eight and a half? 668 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 6: All right, I'll do it. 669 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, go to lids and if they look at you 670 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: and say, now, buddy, come over here, then you know 671 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 4: you're in the eighth and above because everything is usually 672 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: within the sevens. But you're looking at eight and above. 673 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 4: It's like Bruce Bochie. I think Bruce Bochie, the former 674 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 4: manager at a nine. I think you wore a nine cap. 675 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: So like it's close but it didn't look but it's proportional. 676 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 4: Like just big head. None wrong with that. 677 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 6: Got a big brain in that big head? Yep? All right, 678 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 6: so we will hopefully get a report on that. 679 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 3: Have you measured that one? I get some good brain 680 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: for that good big hate? What? What? What? 681 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 6: I'm so glad that wasn't me for once. 682 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 3: I didn't understand that. But okay, Patty. 683 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 6: No. 684 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 4: By the way, I went to elementary school with a 685 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 4: kid who his head was so big that they told 686 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: us when he was a toddler, he would just drag 687 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 4: it on the floor. 688 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: Because he couldn't lift it. 689 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 4: His neck wasn't strong enough to pick his head up. 690 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 4: So he just walked around like a sock hanging off 691 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: the end of your foot that's about to fall off. 692 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 4: Just couldn't pick his head up. 693 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 3: Looked like them helmets on little league football fields. 694 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 6: Guy had a head and a half. 695 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 3: Good God, But did he have a nickname? 696 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 6: I don't I think did they call him? Was it head. 697 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 3: Like? 698 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 4: What he got? 699 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 6: I did? Am I confusing it with another there's another 700 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 6: kid at a big head. They just called him head like. 701 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 8: That is a hell of a nickname for a dude 702 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 8: with a big head. 703 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 6: I forget. 704 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 4: There might have been two guys that had giant heads. 705 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 4: One of them is called heat. 706 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,839 Speaker 3: But that is dope. It's got a funny dope. It's 707 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 3: pretty dope. 708 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 4: It is two pros and a cup of Joe. Here 709 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 4: on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington Brady on Fox Sports Radio. 710 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 4: So we're gonna take you live all the way up 711 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 4: till the end of the hour nine am Eastern time, 712 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: six o'clock Pacific. You can listen on hundreds of affiliates. 713 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: You can listen on the iHeartRadio app. If you're listening 714 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 4: on the podcast. We appreciate you doing so. You can 715 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 4: also find us on YouTube. Check out the brand new 716 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: YouTube channel for the show. Just search two pros FSR 717 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 4: on YouTube again, that's two pros FSR. Be sure to 718 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 4: hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there, hit the thumbs 719 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 4: up icon and common away. Let us know who on 720 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 4: the show you agree with, who you think is completely wrong. 721 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 4: But check out our new channel on YouTube again, just 722 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 4: search two pros FSR and subscribe. 723 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,879 Speaker 3: He so. 724 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 4: There's a tell me if you guys think this is 725 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 4: feels It's like it's something that should be talked about more, 726 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 4: but maybe hasn't been discussed. So do you guys remember 727 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 4: the Thursday night football game between the Seahawks and the Rams. 728 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 4: It was that crazy game where the Seahawks came back, 729 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: they won it and overtime went for two. And the 730 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: play in that game, it was from week sixteen on 731 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 4: Amazon Prime. The play in that game was the two 732 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 4: point conversion attempt in which it was called incomplete. Zach 733 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 4: Charbonay picked up the ball in the end zone and 734 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 4: then there was a big delay and next thing you know, 735 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 4: they're lined up to kick off thinking that there was 736 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 4: no two point conversion and they ruled that it was 737 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 4: a loose ball, a clear recovery, and it gave the 738 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,439 Speaker 4: Seahawks two points. And it was kind of a big 739 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: deal because Seattle went on to win that game and 740 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 4: never lost afterwards, literally won every game afterwards. They got first, 741 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 4: you know, the number one seed in the NFC, went 742 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 4: on and rolled that into a Super Bowl. 743 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 6: And so, according to. 744 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 4: Pro Football Talk, three different horses say the only reason 745 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 4: the play was reviewed was because Terry McAuley, who was 746 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 4: the rules analyst working for Amazon Prime Video, called NFL 747 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 4: officiating and rules analyst Walt Anderson to let him know. 748 00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 4: They let him know they needed to take another look. 749 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 4: So basically, the guy who's on TV a la Dean 750 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 4: Blandino to educate the viewers about how things should be 751 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 4: on the field and what certain calls are. 752 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 3: It was league. I don't know basically, right. 753 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like those guys on the field, though, 754 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 4: shouldn't need the assist from the rules analyst on TV 755 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 4: in order to make the right call. And if he 756 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 4: didn't call in, the play would have been the play 757 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 4: would have stood. There would have been no successful two 758 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 4: point conversion. Who knows what happens in the game would 759 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 4: have made the comeback even more difficult, and who knows 760 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 4: what happens in the postseason afterwards. It feels like there's 761 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 4: a there's something wrong with that whole equation. 762 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 3: Curious. 763 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 7: The issue is the process, and I don't know why. 764 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 1: There's always been this divide between the NFL and college 765 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: where when one's doing something well, the other one want 766 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: to adopt it. It's it's it's bizarre. I mean, I've 767 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of straddled between college NFL and calling games on 768 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: both sides, and so oftentimes, at least working with networks, 769 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: whether it's Fox or CBS that I've worked with, you know, 770 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: they will they will send out officials, rules officials, they'll 771 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: and they'll talk about the process of how they go 772 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: about reviews, the process, how they do all these things right. 773 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: And one of the things that's glaringly obvious between the 774 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: two is that there's almost like this big brother little 775 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: brother scenario where I'm like, well, wait a second, so 776 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: college has more officials on the field than the NFL, 777 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: and they're like yep, I'm like why is that? Like, 778 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you have for a game that it's the 779 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: same dimensions, same amount of players on the field. 780 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 3: Rules are I. 781 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: Don't know, ninety five percent the same, like what like 782 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,160 Speaker 1: why wouldn't you have the same amount of officials to 783 00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,440 Speaker 1: oversee all this. It's always been the first thing that 784 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: stood out. And so we're gonna say, all right, the 785 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: NFL is too cheap to pay for one additional official 786 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: and let's say everyone's playing, so sixteen of different additional officials. 787 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 7: To be on the field. Though okay, exactly. 788 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 3: On the sideline, so that can't be. 789 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: It's probable then you got to find a backup for 790 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: the backup. But the general point is whether it's a 791 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: money issue or whether it's they just don't feel like 792 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,200 Speaker 1: it's necessary because because quite quite frankly, my conversations with 793 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: Mike Prayer and Dean Blandino have always been this since 794 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: I started doing broadcasting, And I said, it just it 795 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: feels odd because as a player, you know, it's something 796 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: that you don't notice as much transition for college to 797 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: the NFL. But then once you get out of it, 798 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: you look back at some of like the unevenness between 799 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: You're like. 800 00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,240 Speaker 7: Why are even the hashes different? 801 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: Like there's an explanation for at the high school level, 802 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 1: but then you elevate to the college level and you're like, 803 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't the hash to just be the same as they'd 804 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: be in the NFL. 805 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 3: Like, why don't they need to be space? Right they 806 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: wanted to create. 807 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 8: Didn't the NFL make them more narrow? And it's just 808 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 8: high school with standard used to be standard. Didn't the 809 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 8: NFL move them in? 810 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, the NFL has moved amen colleges is obviously wider 811 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but then high school is widder than both. 812 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: So to me, it has a little bit do with spacing, 813 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: but I think it also has to do with just 814 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: ease of being able to throw the football too into 815 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,919 Speaker 1: the boundary and different things. Right, But but again they 816 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: there's been no different than the stripe of the football. 817 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, high school you have the white stripe all 818 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: the way run in college an NFL they don't have it. 819 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: So there's different levels, you know to that. But the 820 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: general points to it is they should probably add an 821 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: official it just it makes sense. I think actually deans 822 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: finally come to that side, whereas before they would just 823 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: say it's not necessary. It's just it adds another guy 824 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,880 Speaker 1: in the way. The other thing is, though I think 825 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: they should implement the college replay process. 826 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 7: And so there's layers to this. You know, obviously, you 827 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:07,959 Speaker 7: have the call in the field. 828 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: You have officials who are right there in the booth 829 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: that are going to take a look at it instead 830 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,760 Speaker 1: of routing everything back to New York, you know where 831 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: you then have you know, someone else be able to 832 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: take a look at it. There's command centers for everyone 833 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: of the conferences too, but they do have officials who 834 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 1: are there on site who are able to make in 835 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: real time. They're watching every single play, they can stop play, 836 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: they can review something that makes more sense than trying 837 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: to wait on New York to be able to chime in. 838 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: And in this case, I mean having to utilize a 839 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, rules analyst for a network to help you 840 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: out in that regard. 841 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 8: So I just imagine being in a room, being in 842 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 8: a courtroom and the judge is about the rule of 843 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 8: verdict on somebody's life, and and somebody that's in the 844 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,919 Speaker 8: audience calls like wait, wait, wait, don't make it, wait, wait, 845 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 8: don't don't. 846 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 3: Drop that gabble. Yeah, hey a going to back real 847 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 3: quick pick up phone. 848 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 8: Hey look, man, did you hear what that one person 849 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 8: that interview said like this part right here where they 850 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 8: said that right there, it came back out innocent. 851 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 3: That's the part that's I guilty. 852 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 6: That's the part that's just bizarre. 853 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 4: That's not You shouldn't need the TV analyst to know 854 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 4: the job that should be done on the field more 855 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 4: than the guys that should be doing the job on 856 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 4: the field. That would be like if Tom Brady was 857 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 4: calling a game and he and he called down to 858 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 4: a coach on the sideline and said, hey, by the way, 859 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 4: you know, this isn't working. That's not working, and then 860 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 4: the coach admitted afterwards, Yeah, if it wasn't for Tom calling, 861 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 4: we would have lost that game. 862 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 3: Wait a lot, that isn't true. I hope that isn't true. 863 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 8: I hope this report isn't true, man, because at the 864 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 8: end of the day, the process should be the process. 865 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 8: Like you, someone could have an opinion on that, but 866 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 8: the people who are handling the business of the game, 867 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 8: which that's what the officials do, and that's what the 868 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 8: people behind the officials that are making sure they're reviewing. 869 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 8: When they say they're going to New York and all 870 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 8: that stuff and they're reviewing it, that process should be 871 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 8: a locked and closed. 872 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 6: One hundred percentrocess. 873 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,719 Speaker 8: Yes, there should be no like, what are you even 874 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 8: answering the phone for during that moment? Like oh, if 875 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 8: you're not the one that's directly involved and you get 876 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 8: a call, like so you're running in there to say 877 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,800 Speaker 8: you know, or you're sitting there like no, no, no, take. 878 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 3: A look at it again. That that's like I don't, 879 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 3: I don't. Here's what are you even answering your phone 880 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,279 Speaker 3: for outside? You know what I mean? 881 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,560 Speaker 8: Like, mat, here's we're answering your cell phone on the 882 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 8: sideline during the game and you're a player. 883 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 4: Or this is why I buy it because I remember 884 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 4: when the play happened, you know, there was sort of oh, well, listen, 885 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 4: they didn't get the two point conversion. I think the 886 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 4: score was thirty to twenty eight at the time, and 887 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 4: I was like, oh okay, And then I remember it 888 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 4: was a long time afterwards, and Terry McCauley was the 889 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 4: first guy and look give him credit. He was the 890 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 4: first guy on the broadcast who was saying to Kirk 891 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 4: curb Street. Now, Michael's like, hey, guys, this looks like 892 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 4: a clear recovery. 893 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 6: And he was almost. 894 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 4: Alluding to the fact that I kind of gave a 895 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 4: nudge to Walt Anderson to be like, hey, you know, 896 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 4: maybe you guys should take another look at it. And 897 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,320 Speaker 4: I think it was three minutes later when the Rams 898 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 4: and Seahawks had already lined up for the kickoff, and 899 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 4: it was three minutes later that they had to bring 900 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 4: the bring everybody out, take another look at it and realize, 901 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 4: oh no, it was a clear recovery. The whole thing 902 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 4: was so delayed that I wonder by the fact that 903 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 4: he had to tip somebody off on the field about 904 00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 4: how to do their job, when really his job is 905 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 4: to tell the viewers, not the people on the field. 906 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 4: It's crazy, but here we are, and good for the Seahawks. 907 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 4: Never lost the game after that, So maybe Terry McAuley. 908 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 8: Should get are you are you searching for some type 909 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 8: of uh, you know, like you didn't want the Seahawks 910 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 8: to win it. 911 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 4: No, if Seattle loses that game, they're going on the road. 912 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 3: They don't have to saying you didn't want them to win. 913 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 6: I think I might have picked Seattle, so I did 914 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 6: want them to win. 915 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,480 Speaker 4: Oh, I think I might have had money on Sea Maybe. Actually, 916 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 4: you know what, if they won, I probably was on 917 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 4: the other side. So I probably had the rams, but 918 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 4: no in the way my season went. 919 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 6: But it's just knock locked. 920 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, not really, but it's just I find it bizarre 921 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 4: that it's another example of cutting corners when you don't 922 00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 4: have to cut corners. It's like field conditions and field 923 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 4: turf officiating. And yet, as Brady mentioned, there's almost like this, well, 924 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 4: if they're doing it and it works, we're too good 925 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 4: for that. 926 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 6: We don't want to follow them. So what do you 927 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 6: mean You like, you'll watch. 928 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 4: The XFL or the UFL and you'll take stuff from 929 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 4: them all the time. Why wouldn't you take a good 930 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 4: idea that's working elsewhere and just implement it on your 931 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,399 Speaker 4: to your sport if it's going to make things better. 932 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 4: They took stuff from the original XFL, the camera, angle, 933 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,279 Speaker 4: over the top, different ideas like that, and for this 934 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 4: one they just won't. 935 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 6: So is what it is? 936 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 7: All right? 937 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 4: It is two pros and a cup of Joe Fox 938 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 4: Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady, Quinn, Jonas Knox. 939 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 6: With that, you can hang out with us as always 940 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,959 Speaker 6: on the iHeartRadio app. 941 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,600 Speaker 4: Up next, though, get ready to get really tired of 942 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 4: Super Bowl sixty one. 943 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 6: Find out why, right here on FSR