1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature Future, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied 3 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: psychology and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, conservation 4 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: gets weird, from bird humping helmets to toxic toad sausage 5 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: thrown out of helicopters. Sometimes conservationists have to get wild 6 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: to save the wild. Discover this more as we answer 7 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: to the age old question how do you keep a 8 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: whooping crane from catching? Feelings for you? Joining me today 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 1: is TV writer, cartoonist and filmmaker Anna Selina's welcome. Hi, 10 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: so happy to be here. I am excited to have 11 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: you back. And I was just talking with you about 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: how I think of the last time I had you on. 13 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: We talked about little cute owls, and for some reason 14 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: it happened again and I didn't plan for it. Maybe 15 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: it was like kind of some subliminal messaging that I 16 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: got where it's like, I gotta talk about tiny owls, 17 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: But are you ready to talk about tiny els? I am, 18 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: because they're so cute. They are the cutest little babies 19 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: that I mean. They're just like flying beaky kittens, you know. Yeah, yeah, 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: they look like you could hold them in the palm 21 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: of your hand and pet them. They would hate it. 22 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: They would hate it to much. Yeah, so they are adorable. 23 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: They are Western burrowing owls, and their territory is often 24 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: threatened by land development, and so researchers and ecologists are 25 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 1: trying to trick these tiny owls into locating somewhere else 26 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: that is safe from land development. So Western burrowing owls, 27 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: there's some of my favorite owls. I they're so expressed 28 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: of They have some of the cutest pictures, and they 29 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: are the only ground dwelling owl in North America. They 30 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,119 Speaker 1: stand at only ten inches tall, which is twenty five cimeters. 31 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: They're found in Western America, including Canada and South America, 32 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: and they live in grasslands like a bunch of little 33 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: prairie dogs. They do look like prairie dogs, like poking 34 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: out of the dirt and they it's like if a 35 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: prairie dog was a bird, which is so cute. It's 36 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: very cute, and there's actually a reason for that. These 37 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: burrowing owls, despite their name, do not actually make their 38 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: own home. They use burrows made by prairie dogs or 39 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: maybe ground squirrels or other burrowing animals. So if there's 40 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: an abandoned prairie dog burrow, they will take it over 41 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: their squatters. Essentially, that is so resourceful like to to 42 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: know that, oh I don't have to build my own hole, 43 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: I can just use someone else's. I love that. It's 44 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: like how I've started using a laundry service because I'm like, 45 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: I don't have to do my own laundry. I'm an adult. 46 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I get to choose what I waste my money on, exactly. 47 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: I just love the thought of them going into the 48 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: prairie dog home and knocking off all the prairie dog 49 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: photos from the mantel and putting up their own little 50 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: owl photos. Yes, and then the prairie dog comes back 51 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: because they weren't actually moving, they just were on a 52 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: little trip, and it's like, what the hell are you 53 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: doing here? Yeah? Yeah, I feel like that must happen 54 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: where they think something's abandoned and it's not, and then 55 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: they probably get in a squabble with a prairie dog 56 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: and then the little prairie dog police are called in 57 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: and lawyers. Yeah, it gets really bloody. I hate to 58 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: say it, but I just see those sharp beaks and 59 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: I know in prairie dog court. All of a sudden, 60 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: there's like blood everywhere. Yeah, I get it. They're fighting 61 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: over their home bird law, bird law. So yes. A 62 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: cute note on these little owls is one way they 63 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: defend themselves is they like to hiss and pretend to 64 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: be a rattlesnake so they won't be disturbed. So I'm 65 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 1: gonna have you listened to this because it is such 66 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: a good mimicry situation. It's like it's like a cat 67 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: hissing at you, but it does shake. They've like mastered 68 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: the vibratto of a rattle, which is impressive. It really is. 69 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: It really is, because it doesn't quite sound like the 70 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: cat hiss. It does sound like that that rattlesnake rattle, 71 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: which is actually when a rattlesnake hisses, that rattle is 72 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: not produced by it's any kind of vocalization. It's the 73 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: ah striation of these hardened scales on its back tail 74 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: rattling together these dry scales. So the fact they can 75 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: mimic that with the their vocalization is really impressive. But 76 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: they are harmless little babies. Unless you are a small 77 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: raptile road in or insect. They could probably scratch it 78 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: pretty good. But again they're like, they're like flying cats, 79 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: you know, so uh. They Unfortunately, because they live in 80 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 1: these grasslands, they are really vulnerable to land development because 81 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: that is a favored area to develop because it's flat, 82 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: relatively easy to build on, and in fact, most of 83 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: California's grasslands have been developed and put that puts these 84 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: adorable little flying murder kittens in peril or things. That's 85 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: so sad. It's like they've just moved into their new house, 86 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: kicked off the prairie dog photos. Now they're losing their 87 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: homes again. Yeah. Yeah, And they're actually a federally protected species, 88 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: so developers have to relocate the owls when they develop 89 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: on their habitat. They can't just go around killing a 90 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: bunch of owls, which is good, um, but typically the 91 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 1: land developers simply evict the owls from their homes by 92 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: waiting for the owls to leave than destroying their burrows, 93 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: and then when they get back, they're just their burrows 94 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: are gone. There's also the method of translocation, where you 95 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: remove the owls and take them somewhere else, but often 96 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: the owls will simply try to return to where they 97 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: knew their old burrows were only to be met with 98 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: like some kind of McMansion being built. They're completely confused. 99 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: That's so sad. It's really sad, especially when you consider 100 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: how atrociously ugly mc mansions can be. And these owls 101 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: are probably like, why do you have different roof styles 102 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: altogether on one house? It doesn't make sense. The windows 103 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: aren't symmetrical and stuff. When they just like when they 104 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: just stick a turret on a house, you can't do that. 105 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Crimes against and all the houses look the same on 106 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: the block. Crimes against nature and crimes against architectural style. 107 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: So ecologists are trying to figure out a better way 108 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: to move the owls to new homes on nature reserves. 109 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: And they did a study comparing the fates of owls 110 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: who were simply evicted versus those who were acclimatized to 111 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: new burroughs. And they found that by relocating owls and 112 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: creating a lived in burrow for them by doing things 113 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: like thought fully splattering them with owl poops, sometimes real 114 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: al poops, sometimes fake just just so you know, just 115 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: this kind of artful little splatter Jackson Pollock like splatters 116 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: of owl poop here and there. I'd love to sit 117 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: in on like the designer, the interior designer using this 118 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: al poop. Yeah yeah, just artfully sprang it on some 119 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: of the walls, like you could use an accent while 120 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: right here with ol poop. I think that'll really balance 121 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: out the living room and live in the room up 122 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 1: and you want you want to sense of motion, Yeah, 123 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: you want some sense of motion. You want a nice 124 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: function way. So there's a front facing window around here, 125 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: um and that's that's where that will poople go. You 126 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: openin up the space. I think that is so sweet 127 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: to decorate an owl's little burrow for them. That's just 128 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: the sweetest. It's the least we can do. That's true. Hey, 129 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: I took your home, but I got you a new one, 130 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: and don't worry. I pre pooped it. I just like that. 131 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: It's humans and owls are essentially the same. When a 132 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: real estate agent is trying to get you to buy 133 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: a home, they bake some cookies in it so you 134 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: smell freshly baked cookies. If we're trying to get an 135 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: owl to settle on a home, it's like al poop 136 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: into that right, you don't know it's covering. It reminds 137 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: you of home right reminds you of your childhood. Oh yeah, 138 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: is it fresh? Oh yeah, that's fresh? Nice and warm? Yes, 139 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: warm and cozy? What have real estate agents just went 140 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: to the bathroom right before they try to show the home. 141 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: So it just has that nice lived in you know. 142 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: It's the sound of flushing and you feel like you're 143 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: already home. The toilet seat is all still warm. Someone's 144 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: just lit, uh match to try and get rid of 145 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: the smell, but it just kind of covers it. You 146 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: still smell it, but also smell the match. Yeah, I'd 147 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: be like the smells like home, I would leave immediately, 148 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: but I it would smell familiar, so freshly baked cookies 149 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: and then the smell of a match, and then like poop. 150 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: Wouldn't do it for you? I want to say no, 151 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: but who knows. I've never bought a house. I don't 152 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: know what it would be like. It depends if I 153 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: bought a house. Yeah, I was on the artful splatter. 154 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: Yeah absolutely so it's mid century splatter, Rococo splatter. H 155 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: so uh. They also will play owl sounds near these burrows, 156 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, other owls are digging it, maybe 157 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: you'll dig it to uh, huh. So they actually did 158 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: find that this was successful. The owls were much more 159 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: likely to inhabit the homes and they were more likely 160 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: to successfully breed. And that's really key because if we 161 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:14,319 Speaker 1: want to conserve their population, not only do we need 162 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: to basically save their lives, we need to give them 163 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: a conducive environment to have a family and continue their 164 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: little owl life. Yeah, they're little owl lives. You know, 165 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: they'd be really offended by that. They'd be like, actually, 166 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: we have really rich lives where the protactists of our 167 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: own story maybe little, but we have big dreams. We 168 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: maybe little, but we have big dreams. I feel like 169 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: that would be an amazing marketing poster for these owls. 170 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Like like you know how when they make a new 171 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: housing development and they put up a billboard to like 172 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: advertise the development, it's like the neighborhood of your dreams, 173 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: say to raise a family, like but then have a 174 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: little tiny billboard for these these owl villages where says 175 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: we may be little, but we have big dreams. Join 176 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Owlie Hills, Ali Hills. It's perfect. They're playing the little 177 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: owl sounds kind of like when you go to that 178 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: Disney Town. How they're playing music in the rocks. Have 179 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: you heard of this? Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it. Yeah. 180 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: It is a very like curated sort of experience, just 181 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: like Disneyland is where they play sounds, they waft sits 182 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: for you. They make you feel like you're in a 183 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: village and not being watched by Mickey Mouse from a 184 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 1: surveillance tower. Exactly. We're creating little Disney villages for these 185 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: owls are being watched. I want to see an owl 186 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 1: in a little tiny teacup right now. Yeah, you can 187 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: see it because you can imagine their little heads like 188 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: twist stick around as the teacup twirls. They like the 189 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: heads are just a little too long to swel around. Like, 190 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I'm not dizzy at all. Yeah, 191 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: this is fine. This is like just a regular walk 192 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: in the park for me. Man al Disneyland, that would 193 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: be That's my dream. Uh yeah yes. So, so this 194 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: technique of making a potempkan village is actually not unique 195 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: to owl. So a potempkan village is a village that 196 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: has a fake facade that makes it look lived in 197 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: or desirable. Uh. This is, I guess um a technique 198 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: that is used by conservationists where they are trying to 199 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: get animals to see an area as a viable place 200 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: to live. And they've actually done this underwater as well. 201 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: So oh wow. Off the coast of Australia lies the 202 00:13:56,040 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: sprawling Great Barrier reef. Unfortunately, coral reefs are actually in 203 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: dangerous So the reef itself is made of living organisms, 204 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: so coral is alive. Uh and if those die, so 205 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: dies the reef and that ecosystem collapses. So when coral 206 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: dies something happens called bleaching. So bleaching is when coral 207 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: expels the symbiotic algae that lives inside it called I 208 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: think it's zoe xanthela. It's a it's a complicated word, 209 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: zoe x anthela. This can occur due to warming waters 210 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: or changes in the amount of nutrients in the surrounding area. 211 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: Often this is due to climate change. It can be 212 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: due to water runoff from farms where you have fertilizer 213 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: running off and changing the dynamics of the algae UH 214 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: in that area, which can cause bleaching where a certain 215 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: type of algae competes the symbiotic algae in the coral. 216 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: It's a big problem and UH. Sometimes in addition to 217 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: these these things like climate change or runoff from farms, 218 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: you'll have a natural disaster that comes in like a 219 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: cyclone that will destroy parts of the reef that are 220 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: already vulnerable. And this has happened to parts of the 221 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: Great Barrier Reef, much to the distress of ecologists who 222 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: understand how critically important reefs are for the diversity of 223 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: marine life. They're one of the most diverse uh and 224 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: concentrated communities of sea life in the entire ocean. These reefs, 225 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: they're amazing. I mean, they're beautiful to look at and 226 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: they're so important ecologically. So of course when these reefs 227 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: are dying or being destroyed naturally, we're thinking, well, how 228 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: are we going to solve this problem. So one thing 229 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: they do is they you can use the rubble from 230 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: dead or destroyed coral colonies to try to rebuild the area. 231 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: So they set up they kind of gather up coral 232 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: where it has been destroyed, kind of pushes it together 233 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: to make a new basically a skeleton for a new reef. 234 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: And even if they are able to start growing back 235 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: this coral, they need to convince other marine life to 236 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: come settle because these ecosystems are very very They're like 237 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: a tapestry. They're all woven in together. These species have 238 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: such a close knit relationship they can be highly dependent 239 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: on each other. So you need to get the whole 240 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: community back to really see these reefs thrive. So they 241 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: need to entice new visitors to come and settle there. 242 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: And the way they did that was they set up 243 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of underwater speakers and played the sounds of 244 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: a health the coral reef community. Oh wow, that's like 245 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: playing party sounds. And then you get there and it's 246 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: a really lame party. It's like, wait a minute, this 247 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: sounded like a rag er out there. You told me 248 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: Kelly was coming. Yeah, she's coming later, She's coming later, 249 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 1: she's coming. Wait but I heard her voice. Yeah, don't 250 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: look into it. It's a phone call. That is that 251 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: would be scary, Like you go to a house party. 252 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: There's music that sounds of crowds. You go and then 253 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: there's just a bunch of mannequins set up and like 254 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: you'd be like wait, wait wait, I know. It really 255 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 1: makes you have empathy for these animals that are like 256 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: this isn't real. What is this? Yeah, And if you're wondering, 257 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: like well, wait, what does a coral reef sound like, 258 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: Because it doesn't seem like a thing that would make 259 00:17:55,840 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: sound other than just like water flowing around. It's actually 260 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: really alive with sounds, and so I'm gonna play you 261 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 1: a little clip of what that sounds like. Oh my god. 262 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 1: So all those little crackling sounds, that's that very pleasant 263 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: sort of background noise. Those are often the sounds of 264 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: snapping shrimp. You can see here damselfish calling various other 265 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: fish making these these calls that they often do to 266 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: attract mates or to communicate with their neighbors. So it's 267 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: very much alive with the sounds of these fish and 268 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: invertebrates and all of these animals that make a coral reef. 269 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: The coral reef. Yeah, that was like very calming. I 270 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: think I could listen to that for like sleep. Sounds 271 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: like to fall asleep, I know. And it's makes me 272 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: feel like I'm at rainforest cafe. Oral cafe. You just 273 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: kind of have to go underwater and somehow drink your 274 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 1: my taie or banana through a straw. Yeah, yeah, now 275 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: I'm seeing I'm seeing the concept now. No, I agree, 276 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: it's very very soothing, and I want there to be 277 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: more recordings of these reefs. I think it's kind of difficult. 278 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: You need a special underwater recording device in order to 279 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: capture these sounds. You can't necessarily hear them very well 280 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: with our human ears because our ears don't really work 281 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: that well under water. We're used to our ears working 282 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: by having air bounce around and then bounce inside of 283 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: our ear drum, which signals a nerve that to the 284 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: brain that basically reconstructs this sound for us. So underwater 285 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: ears are pretty bad. So if you try to listen 286 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: to a coral reef with our human ears, it's really 287 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: you're not going to here much. But we can record it, 288 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: and I hope we continue recording it because I think 289 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: there's something when you hear that. It really for me, 290 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: even though I know, like, yes, they're alive, they're full 291 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: of life, it's like it really gives me that sense 292 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: of like a bustling city, like it's an underwater city 293 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: of animals and it's so it just makes it feel 294 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: all the more important to protect it. So we're gonna 295 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: take a quick break, but when we return, we're going 296 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: to talk about more weird and wild conservation efforts. This 297 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: time with some birds that are maybe a little bit 298 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: too affectionate. M so anah. Sometimes you just gotta put 299 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: a seaman collecting helmet on if you care about endangered birds, 300 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: you know how that is. Yeah? Oh god, I have 301 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: that on my wall. I have a crossed it so sad. 302 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: When I get stressed, I remind myself i'd just have 303 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: to wear a bird semen helmet. I have that same 304 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: cross stitch Etsy. Did you get it on? Yeah? Yeah, 305 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: I love it. Got it for Christmas a few years ago. Yeah. Yeah, 306 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: it's a you know, live laugh put a semen collecting 307 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: helmet on your head. Yeah, I have that one in 308 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: the kitchen. It's such a it's such a trite home 309 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 1: decre Yeah, but everyone has it because it's true. That's yeah, 310 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, you know, it's a it's a 311 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 1: it's an age old age old saying as old as 312 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: as old as time, tail as old as time, for sure. 313 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: We're talking about the cocapo, which is also known as 314 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: the owl parrot. It is a beautiful, green and fluffy 315 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: ground dwelling parrot. I feel like it's a record. I'm 316 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: talking about two ground dwelling birds in one episode. I 317 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: don't know that there's an award, So it is unusual 318 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: because I'm like, wait, the like ground dwelling bird is 319 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: a thing I don't even know if I fully knew that. Yeah, 320 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: So to learn about two it's like, do they think 321 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: they're mice? I mean the other one thought it was 322 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: a prairie dog. I feel like if you ask this 323 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: if it thinks it's a mouse, it's gonna be very offended. Yeah, 324 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: this is the world's only flightless parrot and it is 325 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:32,360 Speaker 1: endemic to New Zealand. Wow it is. That's yeah, that's cool. 326 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: It is really cool, and it's actually kind of goofy. 327 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful bird, but at the same time really 328 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: goofy looking. It looks like some kind of bird muppet. 329 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: It's absolutely adorable. It is. The reason it's probably flightless 330 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: is because New Zealand is an island and it's the 331 00:22:55,600 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: animals there. Typically on an island can basically evolve into 332 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,239 Speaker 1: these very specific niches. So if you don't have a 333 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: lot of ground predators in your area, uh, and you're 334 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: isolated from the rest of the world where ground terrestrial 335 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: ground predator may be able to migrate over, you may 336 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 1: develop these traits that are say like being flightless, like 337 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: the Kiwi in New Zealand is also flightless. Of course, 338 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: we also know about the dodo who was flightless, which 339 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: lived in Mauritius. Unfortunately, we know about what happened to 340 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: the dodo, and this almost happened to the cacopo uh 341 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: so Unfortunately they are critically endangered due to the introduction 342 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: of non native predators. This includes rats, cats, ferrets, and 343 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: stoats who came to the island of New Zealand with 344 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: British colonizers colonizers in the eighteen hundreds. So this they 345 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: almost suffered the same fate of the dodo, with total 346 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: and total extinction. So the dodo is the same story. 347 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: Uh Dutch colonizers came over to Mauritius. They brought with 348 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: them cats and rats and dogs, and those hunted the 349 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: dodo along with humans to extinction. But in eighteen ninety 350 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: conservation efforts began. I guess people, unlike with the dodo, 351 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: people are like, maybe we should save this bird. I 352 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: don't know, it's a coool bird that does feel early 353 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: for conservation efforts, it does. I mean, we're almost to 354 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: the twentieth century, which you know, I guess it is. 355 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: It is interesting. I think like there there was Probably 356 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: it was because we had seen some extinction events before 357 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: where we were like, oh, we made this go extinct, 358 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: We made the dodo go extinct. Aby, we should not 359 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 1: keep doing that. It took us long enough, but it 360 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: has been a real struggle to keep their numbers healthy. 361 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: As of now, there's only around two hundred wild cocopos. Uh. 362 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: One of the reasons they are so rare is that 363 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: they only mate during very specific and short time periods, 364 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: which corresponds to the ripening of a fruit called the remove, 365 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: which happens only once every five years. This sounds like 366 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: it sounds like something from a Doctor Seuss book, you 367 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean. That's like the coco po only 368 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: mates once every five years when the fruit of the 369 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: remove plant ripens. It really does every five years, except 370 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: somehow rhyming, but it's close. It's got the alliteration and 371 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: it really does. And there's also a like a particulars 372 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: to this that I kind of relate to, where it's like, no, 373 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: I kind you need everything to be right, don't have sex, 374 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: Like I really need the right music, need the right 375 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: fruit at a specific point in its rights. So sorry, right, 376 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: not tonight. I actually need sliced pears. It has to 377 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: be ripe, and I also need some lemon hibiscus tea um, 378 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: and it can only happen four months out of the year. 379 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: That's basically what these these birds are doing. Yeah, it's 380 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: like they're saying they're on their period. I have a headache. Sorry, yeah, 381 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: I have a headache. Well, the reason for this is 382 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: that this is a major part of their diet, this fruit. 383 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: It's highly nutritious, and having their chicks timed around the 384 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: supply of this fruit ensures their chicks will have the 385 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: best chance of good nutrition when they're young and the 386 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: best chance of survival. And cocopos live up to one 387 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: hundred years, so the rarity of their mating cycles is feasible. 388 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Mm hm. Can you imagine if you saw one of 389 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: these cocopos when you were like ten, and then like 390 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,160 Speaker 1: at age eighty nine, you see the bird fly, knowing 391 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: that it's the same bird you saw when you were ten. 392 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: I mean, they are flightless, so it's more of um 393 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: when they fly, it's more of a sort of hop 394 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: and flap kind of situations, so they can see this 395 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: bird hopping. So this mating strategy does technically work, but 396 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't make It does limit them when they face 397 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: challenges to their populations, such as new predators. They have 398 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: a LEC mating system. Elect is like a large area 399 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: where males will come to gather. It's like an arena 400 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: where they strut their stuff, and these males will make 401 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: these booming calls to entice females to mate eight hours 402 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: a day for over four months. These dudes are thirsty 403 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: and can you blame them? No, hey, you only get 404 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: it every five years years when you're trying to get it, 405 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: it's probably real pent up. Yeah, yeah, I mean they 406 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: built so they build their own resonance chambers. They dig 407 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: these things called bowls that will help amplify their calls. 408 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 1: And the sound of it sounds like air being blown 409 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: over an empty beer bottle, which I gotta hand it 410 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: to of them, it is an erotic call. Yeah, oh god, yeah, 411 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's erotic audio. That's like they have websites 412 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: for that, you know, like those jug bands where you 413 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: got like do do do do do do do do 414 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: do do do do do do that's yeah, it turns 415 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: beyond every time I get my right fruit and I 416 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: get that jug music. You're only human, how can you 417 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: not be so? Here here is an actual call of 418 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: the coco po trying to desperately find a mate. Just 419 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: a little flavor of that bird's beautiful, beautiful hooting sound. 420 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like a jug, it really does. 421 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: It's crazy that comes out of a bird. I know, 422 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: I thought I was listening to jug music. I wonder. 423 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't think this research has ever been done, but 424 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if you took an empty beer bottle or 425 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: a jug, you set yourself up near these coco pos 426 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: and blue on it. If you'd get a horny female 427 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: come in your way, well you splatter a little bird 428 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: poop on the walls, and you just might that plus 429 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: the jug. It's all about the atmosphere. Mm hmmm h 430 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: hint to birds and human and so alike. So now 431 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: something about birds in general which applies to these coco pos. 432 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: They will often imprint on their parents. So when they hatch, 433 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: they see their parents and they're like, that's what I'm 434 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: gonna be when I grow up. If they hatch around 435 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: humans or are raised by humans, they will often imprint 436 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: on humans because they look at a human and they think, hey, 437 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: that's an adult me. I'm a person. Oh my god, 438 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: that's so cute, it's adorable. It's what cause I don't 439 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: want one of these as a pet because it'll be 440 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: with me forever. I'm gonna tell you before the bird, 441 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why you don't want this as 442 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: a pet, Like, aside from ethical reasons, um in just 443 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: a minute. But when birds imprint on people, that's like 444 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 1: when if you've raised like baby baby ducks or geese 445 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: and they follow you around like they're following their mommy, 446 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: that's because they have imprinted on you. Now, here's the 447 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: downside is when they that Okay, I'm a human, that 448 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: must mean when I grow up I'm going to fall 449 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: in love with a human and have babies with them. 450 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: So they will imprint on you, and then every other 451 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: human they see they will assume is an adult bird 452 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: that they're supposed to mate with, and they're gonna try 453 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: and probably fall in love. Uh so, oh my god, 454 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: oh god, I just want to know what that looks like. Well, 455 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: i'll tell you what that looks like. It looks like 456 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: a bird humping people's heads. So wow, these poor birds 457 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: are so romantic to their detriment. They're like, they're like 458 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: rom com heroes, Like, I can really understand how hard 459 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: it is to be this romantic. It's unrequited love, which 460 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: is probably the most tragic of all. When a bird 461 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 1: loves a human and the humans like, no, we mustn't 462 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: and the bird is like, but my heart is crying 463 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: out for God. And then he was like, stop humping 464 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: my head, And the bird is like, what is it 465 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: about me that I can't find love? This is the 466 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: case for the most notorious cocopo in the world named Sirocco, 467 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: who has attempted to mate with many conservationists heads, including 468 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: famed zoologist Mark Carowin Dean on BBC's show Last Chance 469 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: to See Uh, he tried to hump this guy's head 470 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: on national television adorable and people fell in love with 471 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: him for it, which I think is great. So his 472 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: humping habits have made him a celebrity and he has 473 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: become the official bird ambassador to Cocopo conservation and people 474 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 1: freaking love this humping bird. So researchers hoped to actually 475 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: work with Sirocco's lust for the good of conservation by 476 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: inventing the birds seven collecting helmet. That's disgusting. I mean 477 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: some you know, it's science. It's uh. Sometimes in science 478 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: you gotta think outside the bun, and sometimes thinking outside 479 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: the bun means letting a bird hump your head. That 480 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: sounds like an idea that like that guy at the 481 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: office made who always has really wacky ideas, And you're like, okay, Jack, 482 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: not now, it's not we're not looking for that. It's 483 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: not Friday at four pm. And then one day everyone 484 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: like just got drunk enough and they're like, you know what, 485 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: this guy's got some good ideas. Let's let's do this 486 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: firm helmet and then you wake up the next morning. Yeah, 487 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 1: I gonna have Why do we have twenty sperm helmets? 488 00:33:54,520 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: Jack's idea? I love those birds. Yeah. Jack is from Texas, 489 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: sy He won't stop trying to fuck the bird, but 490 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: they keep him on the payroll because you know he's 491 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: a nice guy. Lets to start talking to him. Uh 492 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: so uh. When worn by the researchers, the helmet was 493 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: designed to collect the you know, bird semen that was 494 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: produced during the humping session. That was thought that they 495 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: could use this for research samples and for conservation purposes, 496 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: potentially for fertilization purposes. Unfortunately, listen, Sirocco is a discriminating 497 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: little gentleman. He's got high standards. You can't just slap 498 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,759 Speaker 1: on a bird semen collecting helmet and think that Sirocco 499 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: is automatically going to be attracted to you, because he's not. 500 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: He's actually not going to be attracted to that. He 501 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: refuses to make love to people who are wearing these 502 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: helmet because Sirocco is attracted to human heads without a 503 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: weird bubble wrap covering. And thank you very much. So, 504 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's true. I get he imprinted on 505 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: a human, not on a sperm helmet. So he's like, 506 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: I want to see that big beautiful head like and 507 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: if you've seen the sperm helmet, which you can if 508 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 1: you check out the show notes, I don't blame him. 509 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: It's not a good look. No, it looks like it 510 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: looks like someone wrapped their head in bubble wrap and 511 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 1: is some kind of conspiracy theorist who thinks that bubble 512 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: rap will stop the four geez And I wouldn't be 513 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be attracted to that, you know, No, No, yeah, 514 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: you do. I mean it's like, do I want to 515 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: date someone who's constantly warning one of those conspiracy tinfoil caps. No, 516 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: I'd feel self conscious. I'd be like, I don't want 517 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: to be seen this person. Yeah, so I get it. 518 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: Sirocco is like he's just discerning and discerning who he 519 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: falls in love with. You know. Sure he gives hardaway 520 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot, Yes, but that doesn't mean he's just some 521 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: machine who you can program to love anything. No. No, 522 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: just because he's open with his love doesn't mean he 523 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: doesn't have standards. God damn it. I do think that 524 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: Sirocco the Bird is begging for a Pixar movie. How 525 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: do we not have a movie based on this real 526 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: life bird about a bird who like keeps falling in 527 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: love with humans and giving his heart away. I want 528 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: to hear how you would plan to make that kid friendly. 529 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe it's time to just blend 530 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: that audience a little bit. And if kids have to 531 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: find out that a bird being attracted to a human 532 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: means it tries to hump its head, then so be it. 533 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: They got to learn someday. Yeah, exactly, So, preventing birds 534 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: from imprinting on humans is actually a big problem with 535 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: bird conservation, and sometimes bird conservationists to have to get 536 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: very creative and creepy because, like obviously if you are 537 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 1: doing a captive breeding program, a problem is if they 538 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: see it's a human raising them and feeding them, they're 539 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,240 Speaker 1: gonna be like, Hey, that's my mommy or that's my daddy, 540 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: And someday when I grow up, I'm gonna be a 541 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: big human just like them and fall in love like 542 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: with a human just like them. That's a problem. So 543 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: whooping cranes, I'm gonna keep saying it that way. Whooping 544 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: whooping cranes are the tallest North American bird and are 545 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: a beautiful white crane with red spots on their heads 546 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: and black wingtips. Their breathtakingly gorgeous birds. And here is 547 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: why they are called whooping cranes. Play a sound for you, okay, magnificent? 548 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah that was that was beautiful. Sounded like a siren 549 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: but kind of skyrin I could listen to for a while. 550 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: The it's a siren when you call nine one one 551 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: because someone stole your heart because those are mating calls. Wow, yeah, 552 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: you know, to each their own. It's a very open 553 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: minded of you. So whopping cranes are still endangered, but 554 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: at one point they almost reached extinction. There were only 555 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: twenty one birds left in the wild, with only two 556 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: in captivity. In they were like a bird sneeze away 557 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: from complete extinction. And this is in contrast to an 558 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: estimated population of over ten thousand cranes before European colonizers 559 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: arrived in North America. So they were once a thriving 560 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: population of birds, but after the destruction of their habitat 561 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: and over hunting, they almost were completely wiped out. And 562 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: so conservation efforts had to leap into high gear if 563 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 1: these birds were to be saved. So there were captive 564 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: breeding programs and relocation to protected areas, and that has 565 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: actually allowed the population to rebound somewhat to about eight 566 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: hundred birds. Um, it's still not enough, and it's it's concerning. 567 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,959 Speaker 1: This is one of the areas where you can see 568 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: the direct impact of politics on conservation. Budget cuts during 569 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: the Trump administration actually closed a major whooping crane captive 570 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:49,200 Speaker 1: breeding program, uh the Pawtucket Wildlife Research Center. I feel 571 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: like I didn't pronounce that right path puppies. While I 572 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: look up the pronunciation. Your dog is the cutest little 573 00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:01,800 Speaker 1: dog I've ever seen. Honestly, she's really small, but she's cute. 574 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: She's just a little weener. I've seen her on Twitter. 575 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: She's just so cute. I love I love her coat color. Okay, 576 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: back back to the show. Uh So this actually caused 577 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: the Patuxent Wildlife Research Center to close down. They had 578 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:22,240 Speaker 1: been operating for over fifty years and had a flock 579 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: of seventy five birds, and so these birds had to 580 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: be dispersed to other captive breeding programs and zoos and 581 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: this is expected to be a major setback for conservation efforts. 582 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: So unfortunately, Uh yeah, politics directly interact kind of have 583 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: a huge impact on conservation. It really is. It really is. Um. 584 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: But in terms of how this conservation works, like I 585 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, they have to prevent these birds from imprinting 586 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: on their human caretakers like Sarocco did, because otherwise they'd 587 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,440 Speaker 1: all become Sarocca and fall in love with humans. Um. 588 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:09,320 Speaker 1: And so the conservationists wore whooping crane costumes while rearing them. 589 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,479 Speaker 1: This is important not just to protect humans from getting 590 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,959 Speaker 1: pumped buy a bunch of birds, but to make sure 591 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: the birds will actually be able to successfully reproduce in 592 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: the wild. Now, these costumes are not as if someone 593 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: did like a Broadway musical about whooping cranes. They're not 594 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: these like cute, cute, kind of like Disneyland character costumes 595 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: of a big cartoon whooping crane. They're really creepy. They 596 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 1: look like people in some kind of weird crane religious cult. 597 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: So the humans will wear these like white hazmat suits 598 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: are white like almost cloaks and capes, and then or 599 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,320 Speaker 1: maybe beekeeper suits, and then they have a fake whooping 600 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: crane head attached to their arm like a puppet, and 601 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: they use this fake head to feed the cranes. So 602 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: I shared a picture of it with you, and it 603 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: really wild. This looks crazy. It's some kind of it, 604 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,879 Speaker 1: doesn't doesn't it look like some kind of weird priest. Yeah, 605 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: it looks like a cult. It looks looks like the 606 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: followers of this cult dress up in these weird pope 607 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: like cloaks with the weird masks and then walk around 608 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: with their birdmuppet hand through like this tall grass. It's 609 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 1: I feel like it's out of a movie. Yeah, it 610 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: looks like it's a midsummer situation, but just with crane. Yeah, 611 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: but look at those cute adolescent cranes when their adolescents. 612 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: They actually have this beautiful like brown and white speckled coat. 613 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: It's just they're so beautiful, such beautiful birds. Um. Yes, 614 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: but yeah, when humans try to pretend to be the cranes, 615 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,759 Speaker 1: we can't quite pull it off, at least from my perspective. 616 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: So it looks very creepy, but it works on the cranes. 617 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: They will see this and see you know, they're looking 618 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: for these general patterns that the heads are fairly realistic, 619 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: these fake puppet heads, and so they will imprint on 620 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: these and learn what an adult crane looks like. So um. 621 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 1: They will also, uh, they use this fake head to 622 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: take care of them, to feed them, so they form 623 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 1: this attachment with these these puppets. And they will also 624 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: teach the cranes how and where to migrate by having 625 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: the costumed rescuers lead them in an ultralight aircraft. It's 626 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: like almost like a hang glider but with an engine, 627 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: and they will fly along the proper migratory route and 628 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: these little uh, these these teenaged adolescent cranes will follow 629 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,839 Speaker 1: them and learn the migratory route like they would if 630 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: they had a community of actual cranes in the wild. Wow, 631 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: you know what that reminds me of. I surely you 632 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 1: have talked about this on this podcast Flyaway Home. Yes, yes, 633 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: so uh it is just like the movie Flyaway Home. 634 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 1: And there's a good reason for that. Flyaway Home was 635 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 1: based on a real story. They probably had that at 636 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: the beginning where it's like based on a true store 637 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: and it was. It was, and it was based on 638 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: the very real work established by Bill Lishman and Joe 639 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,680 Speaker 1: Duff who figured out how to teach young Canada geese 640 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: to follow human lead migratory patterns using those light aircrafts 641 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: and their research. They helped adapt that research to be 642 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: used for these cranes. Yes, it's all connected, Jeff Bridges, right, 643 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: that's who it was was, So that sounds right? Yeah, 644 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: wow he I mean in my mind that's who did 645 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: all the Oh Jeff Daniels, Jeff Daniels, Jeff Daniels. I 646 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: understand he was playing a real person, but it's Jeff Daniels. 647 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: The birds. So Anna, what if I told you that 648 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,200 Speaker 1: you could be a hero by throwing vomit inducing amphibian 649 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:29,479 Speaker 1: sausages out of a helicopter. I think I would like that. 650 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,879 Speaker 1: The idea of vomit inducing sausages sounds like it will 651 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: make me vomit. But yeah, well, you don't happy sausages, 652 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: you have to throw them out a helicopter. They seem 653 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: like they would smell. But throwing sausages out of a 654 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,560 Speaker 1: helicopter sounds extremely fun. It does, doesn't it. Yeah, I 655 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: want that to be my superpower, to be able to 656 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: fly and shoot sausages. Yeah, I'm down for that, you know. 657 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: I figured like every superpower has some kind of like downside, 658 00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: like if you're immortal, you outlive all your loved ones. 659 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: If you're invincible, everyone's trying to fight you all the time, 660 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,839 Speaker 1: and so on and so forth. But what possible downside 661 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,280 Speaker 1: could flying and shooting sausages have? Oh? I mean none? 662 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: I think none. Just I guess jet fuel from the helicopter. No, 663 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying if I could fly, so like if you 664 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: could fly. Literally none exactly. I mean, if we're gonna 665 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:30,319 Speaker 1: get down to the nitty gritty though, So these sausages 666 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: are made of what, well, they're made of toads? Uh 667 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: So let me explain. Yeah, because I'm like, wait a minute, 668 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: these aren't just normal sausages. I'm going to need information 669 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: on that part. Yeah, you want me to show you 670 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: how the sausage is made, because you may not want 671 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: to know how the sausage is made. I want to know, 672 00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: all right, you can't handle the truth, all right here 673 00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: it is. So first, let's start with a well established 674 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:03,920 Speaker 1: fact that invasive cane toads are huge jerks and they 675 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: are destroying Australia. So cane toads fascinating toads. I don't 676 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: actually hate the species, but because they are invasive in Australia, 677 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: they are causing a lot of problems for the native 678 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: species and they have been devastating to a lot of 679 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: these species that are endemic to Australia. They're found only 680 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: in Australia, so it's not the toad's fault strictly speaking. Originally, 681 00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: the cane toads were imported by a bunch of dumb 682 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: humans trying to protect cane sugar fields from cane beetles. 683 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: But the toads didn't eat the beetles because the beetles 684 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 1: like to live high up on the cane stocks, so 685 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 1: instead the cane toads spread out and devoured everything else 686 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 1: in their path and poisoned any predators that tried to 687 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,280 Speaker 1: take them down because cane toads will seep a toxin 688 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: from there from the glands in their skin, so no, 689 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: there was no natural predator that could take them down, 690 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:12,920 Speaker 1: and they just kind of have been going across Australia 691 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: and conquering. So once toads conquering is a really funny image, 692 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: is like toad kings and stuff exactly it. Yeah, we 693 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: have the references. These are toad conquerors and they're of 694 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:39,239 Speaker 1: course they're assholes. Yeah yeah. And one such victim of 695 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: these toad a holes is the Northern qual They are 696 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: a carnivorous marsupial of Northern Australia. They're adorable. They look 697 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: like a large spotted mouse with reddish brown coats and 698 00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: white reverse Dalmatian spots, pink noses. They'll whiskers and a 699 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: long fluffy tail and round ears. They're so cute. Seeing 700 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,320 Speaker 1: pictures like this, like seeing little rats makes me miss 701 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 1: my dog, but I am holding her, so that's okay. 702 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,520 Speaker 1: But something about like rats and stuff makes me miss 703 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: my dog. Well, your dog's a ween or dog. Um. Also, 704 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 1: you're holding her right now. She's so cute. I you're 705 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: you're kind of holding her like she's like she's a 706 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: weapon though you're like yeah, like you could just shoot, 707 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: shoot with the dog, shoot puppy kisses with the dog. 708 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: I like to I'm sorry for this tangent, but I 709 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: do like to weaponize my dog. I'll pick her up 710 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: and just hold her up near someone's face and she 711 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: starts kissing them, So you know, weaponized kissies. I mean, 712 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: my dog is a weapon because her breath is the 713 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 1: most disgusting spell I've ever experienced. Doesn't no matter what 714 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 1: you do, she eat, her breath smells horrendous. It's a 715 00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 1: bio weapon. Yeah, so if she tries to kiss it's like, 716 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 1: oh god, so yes, so adorable. They are very precious 717 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: and they're endangered. So the coals are carnivores. They will 718 00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: eat small insects, mammals, reptiles, and hey, amphibians. So you 719 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: think great, have them eat these toads. Not great, because 720 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 1: again the toads are toxic. They are poisonous when eaten, 721 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 1: and so these poor quols will try to eat the 722 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: cane toad. Try to be our little heroes on the 723 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,520 Speaker 1: front lines against the toad invasion, but the toad will 724 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: kill them often because they're so highly toxic. And coals 725 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,440 Speaker 1: might be able to learn to avoid the toxic toads 726 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: if they would actually be able to survive the deadly 727 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: buffo toxin that the toad secretes, But more often than not, 728 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 1: they don't survive it, so there's no way for them 729 00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 1: to learn. They just die. It is sad. And actually 730 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 1: the learning curve for predators to learn to avoid dangerous 731 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 1: prey is where we get interesting evolutionary traits like APIs semitism. 732 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: So that's when you have a brightly colored animal or 733 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:18,400 Speaker 1: plant that is toxic. So a butterfly might have these beautiful, 734 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: vibrant colors, but it is warning predators, Hey, if you 735 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: eat me, i'm gonna be yucky. So a bird may 736 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,160 Speaker 1: eat a toxic butterfly and then vomit. It's not gonna die, 737 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,719 Speaker 1: but then it learns, hey, next time I see one 738 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,080 Speaker 1: of these pretty bright blue butterflies, I'm not gonna eat it. 739 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 1: That's so interesting. It's almost like symbiotic relationship in terms 740 00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 1: of the poisonous animal being like, I'm not trying to 741 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,359 Speaker 1: kill you. I'm just trying to live, like we can 742 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: do this. Just don't eat me and and we'll all 743 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: be good. It is. It is actually symbiotic relationship, because 744 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,840 Speaker 1: any interaction between two animals where they have a close 745 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 1: relationship is defined as symbiosis. So yeah, so conservationists are 746 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: trying to step in and basically do an artificial way 747 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: of teaching coals how to avoid the cane toad. Now, 748 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: we can't take coals to qual school, even though that 749 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,880 Speaker 1: would be so cute, Like can you imagine coal school 750 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:28,120 Speaker 1: local school? Oh, if it would be so small, such 751 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: a tiny little school, you know, they would have the 752 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,399 Speaker 1: burrowing owls would be their teachers. I'm going to take 753 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 1: rule coal in the coal school. Yeah yeah, that's that's 754 00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 1: a really cute image. It would all take place, um 755 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 1: in little mini school houses. Yeah, you know I'd teach there. 756 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 1: I'd teach for coal school. I Also, it's like, how 757 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: do I teach these coals? I gotta get the coals 758 00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 1: to listen to me. I gotta how do I get 759 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:03,320 Speaker 1: through to these coals just like sit backwards in the chairs, 760 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: like listen, quols. I know I'm not a qual and 761 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 1: you guys are all cools. But look, I know what 762 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 1: it's like. I know what it's like to be a 763 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: carnivorous marsupial. I get it. I see every animal you 764 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: have introduced to me. I'm like, this sounds like a 765 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 1: Pixar movie. Quolls too, I mean something about the name. 766 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 1: It just rolls off the tongue. They have these cute 767 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: little spots which is made for kids movie. Yes, do 768 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: you have a little coal going to cool school? Coal school? Yeah? Uh? 769 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: Cool school to back in session? So uh again. Conservationists 770 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,400 Speaker 1: are trying to teach the quolls to avoid cane toads 771 00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 1: so they don't accidentally poison themselves. And so how do 772 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,880 Speaker 1: they do this? Well, naturally, they're gonna make toad sausages 773 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,360 Speaker 1: from cane toad legs. So they will make toad sausages. Now, 774 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,720 Speaker 1: you can eat parts of a cane toad. In fact, 775 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: some predators will actually come clever and learn how to 776 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: only eat the part of the cane toad that is 777 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 1: not toxic. Unfortunately, the quals haven't done this, but researchers 778 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: can take parts of the cane toad that are edible 779 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: I mean strictly speaking, and make toad sausages out of 780 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 1: them and then lace them with a chemical that doesn't 781 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:26,000 Speaker 1: kill the coal, but just makes them feel nauseous, makes 782 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: them nauseated, So this will hopefully make the coals associate 783 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:36,399 Speaker 1: those nasty toad sausages that made their tummies upset and 784 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: learn to avoid cane toads based on the smell. So basically, 785 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: the process of making these sausages hilariously gross. Uh, there's 786 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 1: I have a few photos in the show notes, nothing 787 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: too graphic, just like some cane toads next to a 788 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: cutting board where you can see they're about to do 789 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:09,200 Speaker 1: some creative culinary cuisine with these cane toads. And then yeah, 790 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: the fact that they're made into sausage feels ridiculous. It's like, 791 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: I understand, you have to mix everything together and because 792 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 1: it's parts of the toad, you can't just serve it 793 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 1: up straight. But the fact that they're like little hot 794 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:27,319 Speaker 1: dogs here you go to the lot dogs is very silly. Well, 795 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,960 Speaker 1: they need to first, they need to be able to 796 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,200 Speaker 1: lace it with the nausea inducing drug, otherwise the calls 797 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:36,839 Speaker 1: won't learn anything. They'll just be like, hey, free sausage, great, 798 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,600 Speaker 1: and it needs to survive being thrown from helicopters. So 799 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 1: sausage can't all exactly, it can't just have a meatball. 800 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: The meatball go like splattering everything. I get it. I 801 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 1: get now, how do these sausages not still explode when 802 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,879 Speaker 1: they hit the ground. I don't know. True. They must 803 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 1: have been like, this is right, it's a durable sausage. 804 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 1: It's gotta be like a weapon's grade sausage. I like, 805 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 1: if you bit into it, you'd be like, oh, this 806 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: is a tough sausage. That's a spicy sausage. Yeah, yeah, exactly, 807 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,560 Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh that's I can't get my teeth 808 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 1: through this sausage. Somehow, somehow I crave more though, you know. Yeah. 809 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: But there's a photo of a very solemn looking man 810 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: inspecting a rack of toad sausages that again is in 811 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: the show notes because I do love this picture. He 812 00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:37,520 Speaker 1: looks like he knows what he's doing. Is ridiculous toad 813 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 1: sausage expert. I wonder if they like consulted sausage makers. 814 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 1: Surely to get the technology to make sausages and the flavor, 815 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: they've got to make them appealing until the cools start 816 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:56,719 Speaker 1: to throw up. So like he's got to eat it 817 00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: and they can smell like puke. It has to be 818 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: like a yummy sauce. It's gotta be yummy, and it's 819 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 1: got to have that signature cane toad smell, because then 820 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 1: they'll learn to associate the smell of cane toade. I'm 821 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: sure it's like a very you know Gordon Ramsey process 822 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 1: of like it like this sauce just raw. I can 823 00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 1: hear the cane toad practically riveting. Yeah, I mean, what 824 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: really makes it feel like it's an episode of Master 825 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: Chef is this other picture you have of someone using 826 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 1: their bare hands to rip up the toad on a 827 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: cutting board of a knife, like, put on some gloves 828 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: that you're not cooking in your own home. Put on 829 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: some gloves, just chopp at him and crack and I'm like, 830 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 1: you're yeah, like a crab. Yeah, like you're playing a crab. Yeah, 831 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,959 Speaker 1: that's that that one. Soon a spatch cock chicken. These 832 00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:59,160 Speaker 1: are toad. It's rough. I bet that all smells disgusted. Oh, 833 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure does it's there's no way. These are some 834 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 1: stinky sausages. So yeah, yes, they have a very strong smell. 835 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: You are correct, and uh they it seems like this 836 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:19,600 Speaker 1: completely off the wall. Banana's Bonker's plan is actually working. 837 00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: So they they throw them out the helicopters and they 838 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 1: are tracking these qualls seeing that the calls are taking 839 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: the toad sausages, and the qualls that are taking the 840 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 1: toad sausages do seem to avoid the cane toad bait 841 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,480 Speaker 1: that they'll leave out, so they'll leave out some like 842 00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: I'm assuming probably these cane toad baits have been rendered safe, 843 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,600 Speaker 1: like they're toxic glands have been removed, and then they'll 844 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,720 Speaker 1: see if the calls will ignore them or not. The 845 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: ones that have been trained with the tainted sausages are 846 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: much more likely to avoid the cane toe bait. And 847 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: it's just it's a miracle of science, these sausages. It is, 848 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,880 Speaker 1: you know. I think the trend in all of these 849 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,120 Speaker 1: that I find so interesting is like how nitty gritty 850 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: it is. It's like you can't just mass produce something. 851 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: Someone's literally standing there with a cutting board chopping up 852 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 1: the frogs making them sausages and then distributing that, or 853 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: like dressing up as a whooping crane with a puppet 854 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: hand and feeding them. It's so it's crazy how easily 855 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: and quickly we, you know, bring these species to near extinction, 856 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: and how painstaking it is to conserve them. A pound 857 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: of prevention is worth an ounce of toad sausages? Is 858 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: the age old a dodge? Do you have that crosstitch? Yes? 859 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,800 Speaker 1: I I also have that crosstitch from Metsy here in 860 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: my office. Yes. I see. It says work, bitch work, 861 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,400 Speaker 1: and then it says uh that one. I see. We 862 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: peruse the same Metsy stores exactly. Yes. Motivational quotes relating 863 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,800 Speaker 1: to conservation, Yeah, I mean, I think it is one 864 01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,479 Speaker 1: of those interesting things where you think about someone who 865 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,840 Speaker 1: goes into conservation work or into evolutionary biology. Did they 866 01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: ever imagine they'd be dressing up as a crane or 867 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: making toad sausage? I don't think so, I really don't. 868 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,480 Speaker 1: But there's something so sweet about that. It like it 869 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: shows you really have to care because you are. It's 870 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 1: like being a really good teacher where it's like you 871 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: gotta get in there, you gotta sit down with that 872 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: student one on one and be like, Okay, so I 873 01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,440 Speaker 1: hear you like uh Digimon? So I printed out a 874 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 1: bunch of Digimon cards. I'm assuming the year is is 875 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:02,120 Speaker 1: a hit show. I'd love to see you try to 876 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: teach teach a classes zoomers and be like, you guys 877 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,960 Speaker 1: think of algebra is like POGs. You know POGs, you 878 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,680 Speaker 1: know bogs. They're like, what are you talking about? Is 879 01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: that an app? And I'm like, how do I reach 880 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: these kids? How do I reach these coals, these qualls? Right? 881 01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 1: Because in this example, I am in cool school. If 882 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: that was not clear, Yes, I love it, I love 883 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,360 Speaker 1: I love qual school. But I think we have We've 884 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 1: done it. We've discovered all these amazing conservation stories that 885 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:43,360 Speaker 1: are both They are inspiring, they are wonderful, and they're 886 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,479 Speaker 1: also weird and full of sausage. So what what more? 887 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,120 Speaker 1: What more can you ask for? I think I, for 888 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 1: one thing, I don't want to eat sausage anytime soon 889 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: because I keep coming back to this picture of the 890 01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: chopped up toads right next to sausage, and I'm like, 891 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,480 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, doctor ruined for me. I am a vegetarian, 892 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,680 Speaker 1: but like even my smart pups are ruined for me. 893 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: But um, my life will never be the same now 894 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: that I've seen how cute quolls are, and I'll have 895 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: to start thinking about that Pixar movie. That's wonderful. I 896 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: guess we were actually taught in the school. It turned 897 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 1: out the quolls where the teachers the whole time. Anyways, 898 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,960 Speaker 1: moving on, before we go, we have something very important 899 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,640 Speaker 1: to do, and that is answering the question we posed 900 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 1: last week, which was guests, who was squawking? Who was squawking? 901 01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: What's going on? It's the Mystery Animal Sound game do 902 01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: I don't know? Uh, some kind of game show music 903 01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,440 Speaker 1: going on. We play this every week. We play a 904 01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,080 Speaker 1: mystery animal sound noise and you the listener, and you 905 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 1: the guests, try to guess who is squawking? Who's making 906 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: that noise? And last week's hint was, damn, what a 907 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: weird baby? Here is the sound? So Anna, who do 908 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,320 Speaker 1: you think is? Who do you think it's making that noise? 909 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:16,280 Speaker 1: It does sound like a baby. Um, I feel like 910 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 1: it's I'm going to say, like a duck, A kind 911 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,400 Speaker 1: of a duck maybe, mm hmmm, kind of. I know 912 01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 1: I'm wrong, but I'm going I'm going bird at least, 913 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you're trying. You're you are incorrect, um, but 914 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: you know you're not as far away from the truth 915 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: as you may have thought. It is not a bird, 916 01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: but it is an aquatic animal. Um. And so a 917 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:55,680 Speaker 1: big congratulations to Michael m, Emily m and Aaron Kay 918 01:03:55,760 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: who all correctly guessed a baby beaver. It's a baby beaver. 919 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 1: That's insane to guess that. Those people who guess that 920 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,560 Speaker 1: are brilliant because that did. I. First of all, I 921 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 1: never knew what a beaver sounded like, And to put 922 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 1: those two together, I'm like, what, I don't even have 923 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 1: beaver top of mind. Ever. Yes, I you know, even 924 01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: though I make this game, it doesn't mean I necessarily 925 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,919 Speaker 1: be that good at playing the game. So I feel 926 01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,520 Speaker 1: like my listeners are actually probably better than I would 927 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,840 Speaker 1: be at this game. Uh, it's an adorable sound. It 928 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 1: sounds kind of like a little baby being fussy. Fortunately, 929 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,920 Speaker 1: this is a happy baby beaver. Uh. It is eating 930 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:46,200 Speaker 1: a sweet potato slice at Second Chances Wildlife Rescue in Kentucky, 931 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:50,560 Speaker 1: and it is making happy eating noises. So beavers are 932 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,440 Speaker 1: social animals and will often eat together in these dining 933 01:04:54,560 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: rooms that they build inside their beaver lodge. All the 934 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 1: theme of this episode has to be a little restaurants 935 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: and hotels that animals make. We're really getting a cute 936 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,479 Speaker 1: little world here. It's tiny things. I guess beavers aren't 937 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,040 Speaker 1: that small, but beaver dining room is cute and definitely 938 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 1: wood panel. It is cute. Yeah, beavers aren't small, but 939 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: they are cute with their big orange iron teeth. Um. 940 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,160 Speaker 1: It is possible that these little happy grunts are social 941 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: cues for it's eating time, it's snack in time, and 942 01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: entices other beavers to come and join. I read one 943 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,560 Speaker 1: account where it seems like they would make these happy 944 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,960 Speaker 1: noises when they're sharing food with each other. So absolutely adorable, 945 01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 1: sweet little yummy sounds. I should start doing that when 946 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:59,040 Speaker 1: I'm having a dinner party. Yeah, you're just hosting and saying, oh, yes, 947 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 1: how's Kevin's word coming along? Brochette is ready memium. So 948 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: onto this week's mystery animal sound. This is another baby 949 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: aquatic mammal with big teeth. Adorable, but you'd better pray 950 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:27,040 Speaker 1: mom is not around. Huh h h h h. So 951 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 1: who do you think is squawking baby rhino? Interesting guests? 952 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: Interesting guests? Well, the answer will be revealed in next 953 01:06:39,040 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 1: week's episode of Creature Feature. And if you think you 954 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 1: know the answer, right to me at Creature Feature pot 955 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,400 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. You can reach out to me 956 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: on other social media. I gotta warn you, I am 957 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,080 Speaker 1: the best at seeing your responses when it's through emails, 958 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,280 Speaker 1: So if you want me to see your guests, most 959 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 1: likely I will see it if you email me at 960 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Creature Future Pod at gmail dot com. But I am 961 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,680 Speaker 1: also on Twitter at Creature feat Pod that's f E 962 01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: T not ev et that is something very different, and 963 01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 1: at Creature Feature Pod on Instagram. UM but Anna, thank 964 01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: you so much for joining me today through this weird 965 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 1: and wild journey through creative conservation. Where can people find you? 966 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,160 Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Bad 967 01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Comics with an X, Bad Comics by Anna, That's Anna 968 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 1: with two ends. Um and I also make my comic 969 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,960 Speaker 1: on Instagram and I highly recommend the comic. I I 970 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 1: love how she personifies emotions in her comments. They are wonderful. 971 01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening. And if you're enjoying 972 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 1: the show and you leave a rating and a review, 973 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: I read all the reviews. 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