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Speaker 1: bourbon is called Digits with acclaimed NAPA winemaker and distiller
Speaker 1: Dave Finney of Savage and Cook. He also has a
Speaker 1: popcorn snack coming out called Husk. Has a memoir called
Speaker 1: Unguarded that's coming out later on this fall. He's a mogul.
Speaker 1: He's Scottie Pippen on the program Scotty, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm great Dan, It's a pleasure to be here with
Speaker 1: you once. I'm trying to think the last time we
Speaker 1: spoke probably six years ago. You're making some headlines here,
Speaker 1: Scotty Dan. I'm always making headlines. I need to keep
Speaker 1: my mouth closed. Is there anything that you want to
Speaker 1: clarify put in context from the GQ article? Not really.
Speaker 1: I mean I think with the Kevin Durant thing, I
Speaker 1: think that people may not have understood the question asking me,
Speaker 1: you know, had he surpassed Lebron James from a standpoint
Speaker 1: of looking at it at basketball and what Lebron James
Speaker 1: have been able to do from carrying a team. I
Speaker 1: don't think Kevin Durant is at a position where I
Speaker 1: can say that he surpassed Lebron James. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: just being an analyst here looking at this. Hey, it
Speaker 1: it didn't feel personal, but it felt like Kevin took
Speaker 1: it personally. Is that how you kind of assessed that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how Kevin takes anything unless you're
Speaker 1: praising him and pushing him up. And I wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to in any way belittle him. I think he's a
Speaker 1: very talented player. He's shown that by you know his MVP.
Speaker 1: He has two finals MVPs. But still the question that
Speaker 1: I answered was based on him and Lebron's conversion. How
Speaker 1: would you guard him and how different would that be
Speaker 1: in guarding Lebron? Well, Dana, I'm gonna be honest, the
Speaker 1: way I played the game, they would have to come
Speaker 1: back in my era and play I can't play anything.
Speaker 1: This is a this is a non touch game. This
Speaker 1: is a shooters game where they're not any contact. I
Speaker 1: played in an era where the game was physic a
Speaker 1: cool and you had to physically be ready for that
Speaker 1: type of challenge night in and night out. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a game where you knew you were going to get
Speaker 1: open shots or you weren't going to get knot to
Speaker 1: the floor. So I asked me how I would guard
Speaker 1: those guys? Would be difficult for me if I'm looking
Speaker 1: at today's rules, if you were, if Durant was playing
Speaker 1: by nineteen ninety five rules against you, I mean it,
Speaker 1: it would be a totally different game for him. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the same player that he is today. His
Speaker 1: ball hamiling would be limited because you could get into
Speaker 1: player's body, but not just Durant. I mean every player.
Speaker 1: I mean, the game had more physicality to it where
Speaker 1: you could pretty much guard a player from ninety four
Speaker 1: feet and use your defensive skills to try to take
Speaker 1: him out of the game. And that's not for today's
Speaker 1: aim is. Although Lebron could play in nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 1: the physicality probably wouldn't affect him as much. I'm guessing yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying Cavin Durant couldn't play. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying he would not be that type of score. Now.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, Lebron James doesn't look to be
Speaker 1: a horrific score when he plays the game. He plays
Speaker 1: the game in a whole different mindset. He utilizes his teammates.
Speaker 1: He he looks to be a distributor, more soul than
Speaker 1: a score. But he's a very effective score because of
Speaker 1: his size and his strength. Do you think Lebron would
Speaker 1: have made the nets better that they would have gotten
Speaker 1: in They would have they'd still be playing. I can't
Speaker 1: say that by saying yes, but it would have been
Speaker 1: a whole different look had Lebron been on the court.
Speaker 1: He's more of a distributor. Kevin Durant is a score sole.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be looking at a guy that's going to
Speaker 1: be playing more for triple doubles instead of trying to
Speaker 1: score forty or fifty. I'll say that. Help me understand
Speaker 1: the GQ article where you talked about the nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: four playoff game. When you refuse to go back in
Speaker 1: the game and feel set up to play for Tony
Speaker 1: ku coach. Oh, I mean, it's not much to be
Speaker 1: said if you go back and look at when Scottie
Speaker 1: Pippen entered the Bulls and when Tony Coo coach entered
Speaker 1: the Bulls, and who deserved the last shot of the game. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I understand that, Scottie. I'm just going by what you said.
Speaker 1: You said you need to read between the fine lines,
Speaker 1: and then you go on to say it was a
Speaker 1: racial move to give him Tony cou coach a ride. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you knew that Scottie Pippen had been
Speaker 1: with the Bulls from eighty seven ballot through the Pistons
Speaker 1: and every other team that we had to get to
Speaker 1: those three championships, wouldn't you give Scottie Pippen one opportunity
Speaker 1: to get a last second shot without Michael Jordan like
Speaker 1: one year without my majority, can I get one shot?
Speaker 1: Like I'm doing all the dirty work. But all of
Speaker 1: that I understand from the basketball standpoint. But when you
Speaker 1: say a racial move, well, why would why would Tony
Speaker 1: who was a rookie get the last second shot and
Speaker 1: you put me up a bounce? That's what I mean racial?
Speaker 1: Like that was Scottie Pippens team on pace to be
Speaker 1: an MVP that year? Right? Yeah? Okay? Well why would
Speaker 1: you put him in a position not to be successful?
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you put him in a position to succeed?
Speaker 1: My col Jordan is not there, So who's next in
Speaker 1: line for you? But if you talked to Phil about this,
Speaker 1: because by saying a racial move, then you're you're calling
Speaker 1: Phil a racist. I've got a problem with that. Do
Speaker 1: you think Phil was who is? Oh? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: do you remember Phil Jackson left the Lakers, went and
Speaker 1: wrote a book on Kobe Bryant, and then came back
Speaker 1: and coached him. I mean, who would do that? You
Speaker 1: name someone in professional sports that would do that? You know,
Speaker 1: I think he tried to expose Kobe in a way
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have. You're the head coach and you're
Speaker 1: the guy that sits in the locker room and tells
Speaker 1: the players, this is a circle and everything stays within
Speaker 1: the circle, because that's what team is about. But you,
Speaker 1: as the head coach, open it up and now you
Speaker 1: go out and you try to belittle at that time,
Speaker 1: probably one of the greatest players in the game. Well,
Speaker 1: it feels like he's disloyal. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: makes him a racist. Well that's your way of putting
Speaker 1: it out, and I have my way. I was in
Speaker 1: the locker room with him, I was in practice sits
Speaker 1: with him. You're looking for him a far Yeah, and look,
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to have you on. But I
Speaker 1: go back and Phil designed to play for Steve Kurd
Speaker 1: when Mike's there, and Mike. Mike didn't have a problem
Speaker 1: with that, did he. I don't want to see You're
Speaker 1: not You're you're not setting me up to answer the
Speaker 1: right question. What do you mean Phil set up a
Speaker 1: play for steak Er. He didn't set that player for Seaker.
Speaker 1: He set that player for Michael Jordan. I thought, in
Speaker 1: the huddle, Mike says, I'm going to throw you the ball.
Speaker 1: You'll be opening that the felone that and Phil had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it, and you don't want to
Speaker 1: get this show started because it will take us a
Speaker 1: long time. You know all those cameras that sitting in
Speaker 1: that huddle, who they was working for? And you know
Speaker 1: who Michael was speaking to when he said that, right,
Speaker 1: that was that was planning. That was speaking to the
Speaker 1: to the camera. That wasn't speaking out of what we're
Speaker 1: going to have to do, what the play is going
Speaker 1: to be. That was speaking to the camera. Had John
Speaker 1: had John stocked and not came down, trust me. But
Speaker 1: that was building his own documentary because he knew he
Speaker 1: was controlling the cameras. You understand English. Yeah, okay, So
Speaker 1: all those cameras that was working, we're working basically for
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's not for this Google bulls. But they were
Speaker 1: building the come fly with me the Air Jordan videos.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. It that was not naturally spoken. Okay,
Speaker 1: that was rehearsed. Uh. Did you guys understand that he
Speaker 1: was doing a documentary that last year? We understood it
Speaker 1: from Phil Jackson that the NBA wanted to do some
Speaker 1: behind the same footage or the team documentary. That's what
Speaker 1: we was understood. That's what we were sold, but that
Speaker 1: wasn't high at all. And uh, you just you phased
Speaker 1: out a little bit there with your connection. So uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't pausing. Yeah, I wasn't pausing because I didn't
Speaker 1: understand what you were saying. Just wanted to let you know.
Speaker 1: But you feel like like there's anger with you or
Speaker 1: clarification or so, I don't know, I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: a field fare. I think it's more clarification. Uh, because
Speaker 1: you had a great career. I'm not angry angry at all. Yes,
Speaker 1: I had a great career, wonderful time in Chicago, and
Speaker 1: h it is what it is. But I think there
Speaker 1: needs to be some clarification, you know about a lot
Speaker 1: of things that happened, whether it was in a documentary
Speaker 1: or through the GQ add that I spoke on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't know, you know how you were portrayed in
Speaker 1: in the documentary and obviously it was slanted, But I
Speaker 1: just if everybody knew you signed a bad contract, did
Speaker 1: it need to be brought up that you signed a
Speaker 1: bad content Like, I don't know, it felt like it
Speaker 1: was planning. I think my biggest thing with the documentary
Speaker 1: was that Michael who didn't play in ninety four, who
Speaker 1: was selling a video based on the Last Dance, was
Speaker 1: something that he sort of tried to pull out to
Speaker 1: show that our winning was all about me and this
Speaker 1: is what everybody else did when I wasn't around, because
Speaker 1: he didn't hate that in this documentary. I mean, he
Speaker 1: wasn't on a team. Yeah, you know. And if anything,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna show that you call feel, why don't
Speaker 1: you show that you'd call Field to bat for me?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm probably was the only man standing who
Speaker 1: had been there with him back in the early eighties,
Speaker 1: But yet he comes back the next year because it
Speaker 1: was getting good. We weren't fading away. Have you talked
Speaker 1: to Michael since the documentary? No? Do you want? Not
Speaker 1: really talked. We kind of talked during it a little bit,
Speaker 1: but not no do you want to? No? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we both moved on in our life. There's
Speaker 1: nothing to be holding on to that went on twenty
Speaker 1: plus years ago. What did you think? There's nothing for
Speaker 1: us to talk about that. I mean, we could talk
Speaker 1: about our life and our families and our golf game
Speaker 1: or something, but we got to go back and crafty.
Speaker 1: Nothing to happen in it nineties. What did you think
Speaker 1: when he said he was going to go play baseball? Um,
Speaker 1: I didn't really think about it. I was really focused
Speaker 1: on my own craft at that time. But I thought
Speaker 1: it was a big decision though. Yeah it was. It
Speaker 1: was a big decision, but it was a it was
Speaker 1: a selfish decision, but it was kind of who Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan was, and that's was a guy that kind of
Speaker 1: believed that he can do anything on his own. The
Speaker 1: relationship was just a we're teammates and that was about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, pretty much. I mean we were excellent teammates.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we try to make more out
Speaker 1: of it sometime and what it really was, but you know,
Speaker 1: we were great court teammates who had a very good
Speaker 1: understanding of each other and what it took to win.
Speaker 1: Talking to Scottie Pippen, he has a new bourbon out
Speaker 1: Digits that's been in the works for a while. How
Speaker 1: did you come up with this idea? I see, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been a little boozing for quite a while.
Speaker 1: I think winning here in Chicago and spend a lot
Speaker 1: of cold winners here, so I used to be up
Speaker 1: a bit of a Crown raw drinker and during the
Speaker 1: pandemic when in my business partner just kind of sitting
Speaker 1: around talking and he said, hey, you should create jo
Speaker 1: own bourbon. And he said, I got an ideal. And
Speaker 1: he had been in the wine business for quite sometimes,
Speaker 1: so he had a a little bit of confidence that
Speaker 1: he could, I guess, get through the doors and into
Speaker 1: Savage and Cook, which is Dave Phinney's a company. What's next, Well,
Speaker 1: there's a few things I got my husband pop one
Speaker 1: which is so super food and um, it's something that
Speaker 1: we're looking for to launching here in the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. What's in this book that's coming out in
Speaker 1: the fall, Just pretty much har about my career, you know,
Speaker 1: starting up growing up in a small town Hamburg, Arkanasas
Speaker 1: and you know, dancing on to centrag and just kind
Speaker 1: of um, you know, my life and what channels and
Speaker 1: all that I went through trying to get into the
Speaker 1: NBA and you know what it was like playing with
Speaker 1: Michael Field and playing for the Bulls organization. I kind
Speaker 1: of believe there's gonna be something in here that's gonna
Speaker 1: get you in trouble, Scotty and like, right, there's got
Speaker 1: to be something that's coming out in this book, right Dan,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't get I don't get in trouble. Trouble.
Speaker 1: Trouble may find you, Scotty, I don't know. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: every time I opened my mouth, somehow it seems to
Speaker 1: try to drive me down a trouble path. But I'm
Speaker 1: really not trying to mislead anybody. Or did you Did
Speaker 1: you ever play Jordan one on one in practice? Um? No,
Speaker 1: how would that have gone? It would have been interesting.
Speaker 1: He had his moments where he was out of high
Speaker 1: and I had my moments in my career without I
Speaker 1: was at a high, so it would have been an
Speaker 1: interesting match up. But in my era I never really
Speaker 1: believed him one on one. And that's kind of where
Speaker 1: the game has evolved in two today. By the way,
Speaker 1: on that draft night when you and older than Polines
Speaker 1: were traded for one another, yes, I'm I'm sitting right
Speaker 1: there and you guys had hats on, so you have
Speaker 1: your Seattle SuperSonics hat on, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you here h and a trade to announce the Bulls
Speaker 1: and SuperSonics are swapping for Trump picks. So you and
Speaker 1: older and Polonies changed hats right there in front of us.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was. It was wild to
Speaker 1: see that. You ever wonder what your career would have
Speaker 1: been like if you weren't traded. I mean, I would
Speaker 1: have had some pretty good teammates, especially if we would
Speaker 1: have still land at Sewan Kemp Gary Payton. You know,
Speaker 1: it was a team that we played in the final,
Speaker 1: so that's sort of fit. That would have been a
Speaker 1: pretty good team to join. That would have been fun
Speaker 1: to go against Mike with that Seattle team. I would
Speaker 1: have been a lot of fun. Uh yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if he would have made it that far, if
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Well, see there you go.
Speaker 1: You're stirring it up again. I'm just saying Mike needed you.
Speaker 1: It didn't win without you, right, that's what they tell me. Well,
Speaker 1: good luck with the bourbon it's called digits, and uh
Speaker 1: the popcorn snack called husk, and then the book. I'll
Speaker 1: probably be talking to you in the fall, because I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's something in this book unguarded Scottie. But thank you, hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, and I appreciate giving me the
Speaker 1: opportunity to ask you to put this in context, and
Speaker 1: you're certainly not afraid. That's that's for sure. But thank
Speaker 1: you Scottie. All right, thank you guys. That's uh Scottie Pippen.
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Speaker 1: in this morning, and I wondered what I was going
Speaker 1: to get out of Scottie Pippen. And I've known Scottie.
Speaker 1: I was there for their championship runs, but I didn't
Speaker 1: really know him because at the time it was Phil
Speaker 1: and it was Dennis Rodman and of course Michael and Scotty.
Speaker 1: You might have him on occasionally after a game on
Speaker 1: Sports Center, but maybe once or twice through the six
Speaker 1: years when they won titles. And I worked with him
Speaker 1: as well on ABC when we did NBA coverage with
Speaker 1: Mark Jackson, but I didn't Once again, I didn't really
Speaker 1: know Scottie. And when he had these comments, I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: there are a couple of things that stood out. If
Speaker 1: he wants to be critical of Kevin Durant and Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant's style, would Lebron make them better? Different? Kevin Durant's
Speaker 1: not a team player. Okay, that's just his opinion. I
Speaker 1: mean he's earned that right one of the great players
Speaker 1: of all time. If he wants to be critical, you
Speaker 1: bring in Lebron James, and then it's going to be
Speaker 1: a bigger story than what it really is. To me,
Speaker 1: it just stood out what happened in nineteen ninety four
Speaker 1: with one point eight seconds to go in a playoff
Speaker 1: game with the Knicks, and I can I understand from
Speaker 1: a basketball perspective, you're the our player. Michael Jordan's not there.
Speaker 1: It's my moment here. I got the opportunity to be
Speaker 1: the go to guy. And then Phil Jackson gave Tony
Speaker 1: kucoach the opportunity to hit the game winning shot, which
Speaker 1: by the way, he did, and he said it was
Speaker 1: a racial move to give him a rise. I just
Speaker 1: I wanted to have him on just to see if
Speaker 1: he wanted to clarify. He doubled down on that and
Speaker 1: there was no hesitation, And you know, I didn't know
Speaker 1: that had gotten to that point with he and Phil Jackson,
Speaker 1: that he's sent, you know, sighting when Phil left the
Speaker 1: Lakers then wrote a book and then had things to
Speaker 1: say about Kobe sold him out and then went back,
Speaker 1: and you know, I just thought he was disloyal, you know,
Speaker 1: but to say it was a racial move, that you're
Speaker 1: going to get the white guy the ball. And in
Speaker 1: that moment, it felt like Scotty was confusing that too,
Speaker 1: that hey, this is my moment, but you're not giving
Speaker 1: me that moment. But Tony ku coach, the white guy
Speaker 1: gets to take the shot. That's where I thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: see know what he's talking about? And does he know
Speaker 1: he's calling Phil Jackson a racist? And he didn't back
Speaker 1: off at all. The fact that Phil didn't design the
Speaker 1: play that Steve Kerr hit the game winning shot against
Speaker 1: Utah in the NBA Finals, that was Michael playing to
Speaker 1: the cameras to make it seem like he was the
Speaker 1: one who was designing that play. You know. The Jordan
Speaker 1: wanting to play baseball a selfish move by him. He said,
Speaker 1: that's who Michael Jordan was. And the fact that they
Speaker 1: knew there was a documentary going on in that last
Speaker 1: season and Jordan playing to the camera. You know, as
Speaker 1: much as Scottie says, you know, I moved on, he hasn't.
Speaker 1: There's an awful lot there to unpack, you see. It's
Speaker 1: fairly incredible foresight though by Michael Jordan to play to
Speaker 1: the camera in that moment and then wait twenty years
Speaker 1: to reveal it. Well, I think Michael didn't know he
Speaker 1: had the rights to the documentary or did he know, PAULI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan agreed with NBA Films to do a documentary
Speaker 1: that season, but he had total power control of when
Speaker 1: it's going to be released and held it for decades
Speaker 1: until the thirty for thirty crew got him to do it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know the criticism of Kevin Durant, you know, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: so what, but you know, to be there in that
Speaker 1: moment when he got traded on Draft night, it's just
Speaker 1: wild because we're thinking nobody knew much about Scottie Pippen.
Speaker 1: I knew more about Olden Polonies from college, and then
Speaker 1: there they are there, we're interviewing them, and then they
Speaker 1: swapped hats. They gave them, you know, those star hats
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. It's a Seattle SuperSonics. And then
Speaker 1: Scotti he's got that hat on and old In Polonies
Speaker 1: had a bull's hat on, and then they switched him.
Speaker 1: And I remember being there going, wow, that's odd. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't know at the time that one of these
Speaker 1: guys is going to be one of the fifty greatest
Speaker 1: players of the old time. If you would have said,
Speaker 1: who's it going to be, I said, well, probably older
Speaker 1: in polonies. I don't know about that much about Scottie Pippen. Yeah, Poling.
Speaker 1: The last thing you asked Scottie fifteen minutes ago, you said, hey,
Speaker 1: you that was a pretty talented Sonics team. You could
Speaker 1: have faced Michael Jordan in the finals. And Scotty said, quote,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he would have made it that far.
Speaker 1: And he did eyebrows towards you, and they said, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, man oh man, ah, Well, the
Speaker 1: City of Chicago Sports Radio, You're welcome there. You go
Speaker 1: enjoy Sylvie and Waddle, enjoy go chop that up. Yeah, MC,
Speaker 1: I don't forget la with that. Kobe Phil Jackson too,
Speaker 1: he wants to jump in. Yeah, Scotty provided several cities. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got a lot to say. That's one of those
Speaker 1: if you if you got a chance to sit down,
Speaker 1: and he might not know everything he's saying, but it
Speaker 1: feels like there's a lot to unpack there that he
Speaker 1: he still harbors some grudges. There feels like big time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does feel like he's aware he's not Michael Jordan.
Speaker 1: But he's aware that Michael Jordan's not Michael Jordan without him, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like he was part of
Speaker 1: all six Yeah, not three like Horace Grant, not three
Speaker 1: like others. Yeah. And you know the thing is Scotty,
Speaker 1: Scotty was going to the NBA Finals if not for
Speaker 1: a phantom call, you know, he he would have taken
Speaker 1: them to the NBA Finals without Mike. That's pretty big.
Speaker 1: And look, I understand where he fought so hard to
Speaker 1: be somebody and he was always going to be Robbin
Speaker 1: to Batman or Plan B to Plan A. And he
Speaker 1: finally gets his call, like they're gonna throw me, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the last shot. Now, he earned the shot,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't the best option for the shot because
Speaker 1: Tony coop Coach was a better shooter. He had one
Speaker 1: point eight seconds to go where Tony got it turned
Speaker 1: shot made it it. Certainly it certainly helps the story
Speaker 1: that it hurts Pippin that cou Coach made the shot,
Speaker 1: because just imagine if Tony Coo Coach doesn't make that shot.
Speaker 1: The papers, the next day would be like, what is
Speaker 1: Phil thinking? Why are you going to Tony coo coach
Speaker 1: a relatively young player. He gets to take the shot
Speaker 1: in that moment, it was wild though. I remember Bill
Speaker 1: Cartwright is sitting next to Scottie. He He's imploring him, like,
Speaker 1: get back, what are you doing? This is my career
Speaker 1: suicide and this is this is happening in real time.
Speaker 1: Scotty just sits down and Bill Cartwright, his teammates, is
Speaker 1: trying to get him to understand the magnititude of this,
Speaker 1: and Scotty didn't understand it. Yeah, you're not overstating this
Speaker 1: at all. I lived in Chicago at the time, and
Speaker 1: the story the next day, I mean, Pippin was a
Speaker 1: you know, one of the great play in Chicago sports history,
Speaker 1: and that just ripped it apart in one day. He
Speaker 1: still beloved for all the stuff he did, but that
Speaker 1: is people put their finger on that one. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he's certainly got some publicity for his bourbon. Let's
Speaker 1: put it that way. Yeah. Is it amazing how much
Speaker 1: content the last dance gave us. Remember it was at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the pandemic, carried us through sports wise,
Speaker 1: and it's still giving, but also the timing of it
Speaker 1: with no sports. They bumped it up two months and
Speaker 1: the fact that and Mike's calculated Jordan was like, oh
Speaker 1: Lebron just went in the title, you know, starting to
Speaker 1: creep up here. There's no doubt in my mind, mister
Speaker 1: competitive is saying, I gotta tamp this down. I got
Speaker 1: to let a whole new generation know, remind them that
Speaker 1: I'm still the baddest man on the planet when it
Speaker 1: comes to basketball. Let's put this out. And there's Mike
Speaker 1: sitting with his drink, got his cigar, He's on his throne,
Speaker 1: and he controlled everything. Was Mike drinking bourbon. He should
Speaker 1: release that one h he has he has his own bourbon,
Speaker 1: own tequila, beating a dead horse bourbon. No, Um, I
Speaker 1: think he's got a it's it's a tequila. I think
Speaker 1: he's got a tequila, high end tequila. That documentary was
Speaker 1: supposed to be two hours when they first commissioned it. It
Speaker 1: It was a two hour thirty for thirty and then
Speaker 1: it kept growing and growing. Man, Yeah, I'm a club.
Speaker 1: It was that end the Lion King or whatever, No,
Speaker 1: with the Tiger King. Sorry, what was the show that Joe?
Speaker 1: You know Joe Exotic, you know Joe Exotic was Remember,
Speaker 1: like we were all stuck at home watching the same thing,
Speaker 1: and that was the you know, you had to watch
Speaker 1: the Jordan thing. Everybody I know, sports fan or non
Speaker 1: sports fans on it. Yeah, the timing of it, but
Speaker 1: that there were ten parts and I and I love
Speaker 1: bringing this up. Though ken Burns had eight hours to
Speaker 1: tell the history of the Civil War, Mike had ten
Speaker 1: for The Last Dance. Now is when you need to
Speaker 1: do a follow up one episode. Jason Hare was the
Speaker 1: director of that, right, why don't we get one more episode? God,
Speaker 1: let everybody have their say. Who didn't have their say
Speaker 1: in the ten previous episode of The Last Dance. Scottie,
Speaker 1: sit down, bring your bourbon. You get to sit there
Speaker 1: and say whatever you want to say. I still think
Speaker 1: that Phil Jackson stuff is damning. I mean that and
Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't pump the brakes. He basically
Speaker 1: doubled down on that With Phil Jackson. I mean I
Speaker 1: thought that he would just say he's disloyal or a backstabber.
Speaker 1: And and that's when you know, I'm saying, no, you're
Speaker 1: calling him a racist. He said, yes, yes, yeah, Now
Speaker 1: he's like, Yeah, I was with him every day. I know.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break. Last call for phone calls, best
Speaker 1: and worst of the weekend and Phil our Fritzie. Call
Speaker 1: for Phil Jackson in the moments that I'm sure it has,
Speaker 1: call for Michael Jordan too, see what he's doing. Dad's
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Speaker 1: might have missed. A couple of phone calls best and
Speaker 1: Worst of the weekend, Ted and Tampa joints. Us Hey, Ted,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? ADP? Yeah, I have two really
Speaker 1: good best for you. Of course we're starting the season again,
Speaker 1: so the Lightning One, the Prince of Wales Cup for
Speaker 1: your Long Island Calnder. There we beat you guys five
Speaker 1: or eight to zero in game five in one to
Speaker 1: zero in the last match at six periods of regulation
Speaker 1: hockey where you guys couldn't even get past our own defense.
Speaker 1: So that's our our best And like Ray Gandolf's hit,
Speaker 1: now we're gonna play the Montreal Kennedy Ann's second best
Speaker 1: is Bosh started again. Bosch started on Friday night. Yes
Speaker 1: you do, yeah man, thank you, thank you? Ted. Uh.
Speaker 1: Final season of Bosh and one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 1: Uh I think Ted was saying we like I don't
Speaker 1: think Ted plays for the Tampa Bay Lightning. Yes, m club.
Speaker 1: If he was a Canadian fan, he could say we
Speaker 1: better would mean oh we we fokish show Shann Libra, Yes, Ton,
Speaker 1: but they they want a big discrepancy. If you watch
Speaker 1: to hear that game, the shots on goal in game seven,
Speaker 1: it seemed like three quarters of the whole game was
Speaker 1: being placed on the end where the island its goal.
Speaker 1: He was and it just didn't make much of an effort.
Speaker 1: He's disappointing for something that's a game seven. You expect
Speaker 1: a little more. Who needs Barry Melrose. Yeah? See, I
Speaker 1: just looked at the Lightnings roster. There is no one
Speaker 1: named Ted or Theodore Okay, not on there already. Paul
Speaker 1: in Iowa, Hi, Paul, Best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 1: Hey Dan once again. You know you just let people
Speaker 1: talk and drops, just like Russell Wilson earlier this year.
Speaker 1: That was awesome. Two best for you. First one is Flight.
Speaker 1: It's a program introduced at the University of Iowa to
Speaker 1: educate students on the changes for name, image and likeness
Speaker 1: and how to help them maximize their earning potential, which
Speaker 1: is pretty awesome to be out in front of that
Speaker 1: and supporting your student athletes. But the best fist is,
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of the home run cycle in
Speaker 1: a baseball game? Is that? A solo and then a
Speaker 1: two run homer, three run home run, that's right, and
Speaker 1: a grand slam And it's never happened in Major League Baseball,
Speaker 1: but we had. It happened for a Nash home guard
Speaker 1: in Mason City, Iowa for Newman Catholic. He had four
Speaker 1: home runs, one RBI, two RBI, grand slam, and a
Speaker 1: solo home run. But he let his teammates down because
Speaker 1: he went four for five and his coach said if
Speaker 1: he hit a fifth home run and his fifth at bat,
Speaker 1: he was going to buy everybody new baths. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of the worst. All right, Well, thank you, Paul,
Speaker 1: Mike and Arizona. I Mike, what's on your mind today? Hey? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Sun's game. That's my best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of watching a soccer game where everyone's
Speaker 1: trying to score in the fourth quarter and it didn't work.
Speaker 1: But we're we're we're going to bring the finals back
Speaker 1: for the first time since nineteen ninety three. Tonight, All right,
Speaker 1: thank you, Mike yep. Game five coming up tonight. You know,
Speaker 1: this is one of those games that the Clippers win nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, what do we have to lose?
Speaker 1: And then they keep it alive. Weird things happened like that.
Speaker 1: This happened to the Chicago Bulls a couple of times.
Speaker 1: They had a chance to close out I think Seattle
Speaker 1: and Utah in Chicago and they ended up losing, and
Speaker 1: then you know they would have to go win on
Speaker 1: the opposing teams floor in the NBA Finals. Yeah, mclub.
Speaker 1: I mean the Clippers could have been winning this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think could even that last game they had him again. Well,
Speaker 1: you know this is where all hands on, Dak whatever
Speaker 1: you need to do, because Devin Booker is not going
Speaker 1: to play the way he's played in Chris Paul like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're going to be playing better. DeAndre Ayton
Speaker 1: has played extremely well. Aiden's twenty two rebounds are the
Speaker 1: most in a playoff game this postseason and the most
Speaker 1: BIA Phoenix Suns player since Charles Barkley in nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 1: You know, Booker had twenty five eight and had nineteen.
Speaker 1: Chris Paul had eighteen, but they only scored eighty four points.
Speaker 1: Eighty four eighty lowest scoring game of the entire season
Speaker 1: in the NBA regular season in postseason Jeff and Detroit, Hey, Jeff,
Speaker 1: best and worst? What if no real quick best is
Speaker 1: gonna be? Chris Paul revitalized on urse is gonna be
Speaker 1: the fan I had to sign at the Tour de France.
Speaker 1: Scottie Pippis was like a lover scorn man. That was
Speaker 1: a great interview. And I got a real quick limmricket
Speaker 1: if I could get it in Oh, Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not the Limerisis or the limesist that ut, but
Speaker 1: I got a goot one for y'all. Got I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get one for all of the guys. Okay and Milford,
Speaker 1: And Milford does the Latina Todd fritz that laughs and
Speaker 1: jokes about. And if Dan doesn't laughs at his jokes,
Speaker 1: he begins to sulk in pulp. But the fear gleam
Speaker 1: of Fritzie's I just pull out a pizza pie, my
Speaker 1: man seating. That's what I'm talking about. Thank you, Thank you, Jeff,
Speaker 1: Oh what have we done to America? And what have
Speaker 1: we done to America? Actually, I'm thinking of coming up
Speaker 1: with limericks that will sell in a package of like,
Speaker 1: uh five or six for all occasions, and they'll be
Speaker 1: Todd Fritz limericks, like limericks greeting cars, Yeah, yeah, yeah, Christmas, Birthday,
Speaker 1: Hanka graduation, graduation, Todd title, come up with limericks, and
Speaker 1: then you can present those two whoever you might be honoring.
Speaker 1: That would be a fun thing to do. Thanks Todd.
Speaker 1: I appreciate you supporting my creativity. It means a lot,
Speaker 1: I know, but I told you I liked them, and
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm re emphasizing the fact that when
Speaker 1: you say things like that, I blushed a little bit
Speaker 1: in it makes me feel good that when I take
Speaker 1: the time to do that, that you're enjoying it. That's all, okay,
Speaker 1: back to you in the studio, all right, Thanks Todd.
Speaker 1: John rom the Golfer will join us as opposed to
Speaker 1: John rom the Country Secer. I don't know, John Rong Rombo,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna join us coming up tomorrow. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm tired this same sports history. Paul in nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: seven Mike Tyson was dcute for biting a vander Holyfield's ear.
Speaker 1: Should be biting his ear off, because he did. He
Speaker 1: didn't bite his He bit a piece of his ear off,
Speaker 1: So journalistically, he didn't bite his ear off. Part of
Speaker 1: his ear was detached on a canvas, but your ear
Speaker 1: or a piece of your ear, So if it would
Speaker 1: have been over fifty percent of his ear, journalistic you say? Uh?
Speaker 1: After three rounds of w BA White Heavyweight title fight
Speaker 1: in Vegas, man that was wild Um nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 1: US Supreme Court overturned the draft evasion conviction of Mohammad Ali.
Speaker 1: Those are two extremes. Uh, yes, you're gonna do. Just
Speaker 1: remembering mills Lane saying there taking a point off, Mike,
Speaker 1: you bat him? It was just such great stuff. How
Speaker 1: does that happen? And that happened twice? How how often
Speaker 1: does that happen where referee says very rarely have to
Speaker 1: say that? And you've been waiting? How long to do yours? Mike?
Speaker 1: That's a point. You beat him, Let's get it on. Uh?
Speaker 1: What did Tyson say after that fight? Ton I thought
Speaker 1: he I thought my trained would saying to fight him,
Speaker 1: fight him, But he said, bite him, bite him? But
Speaker 1: how would take it through that? Why would I buy? Hi,
Speaker 1: it's so good. I stole that from Sean McBride right
Speaker 1: out of his book. I said that exactly. It's called sampling,
Speaker 1: not to the elements, kind of stealing. Yeah. Yes, I
Speaker 1: can't wait for the day that we have Mike Tyson
Speaker 1: in studio and you go, hey, Fritzie, do your impression.
Speaker 1: I would he if I I don't even sound like that.
Speaker 1: We should take it outside in the parking lot. We'll
Speaker 1: touch my pigeons. I did that when Shannon Sharp was
Speaker 1: in studio. Add I could not believe. I said, now
Speaker 1: you're Shannon Sharp, impersonation to getting right there? What did
Speaker 1: you mean to do with I know, because it's not
Speaker 1: flattering Bronco little great but Bronco. But that's how he
Speaker 1: sounds does But that's just not flatter. It's like a
Speaker 1: mumbling marble thing that's not meant to be a positive.
Speaker 1: I never said it was that. I just said you
Speaker 1: sounded like him. I think they gold Tenneth thing to
Speaker 1: Tenneth seventeen Game Thieve now Tenneth Wild Road, Wildcock. By
Speaker 1: the way, he is good on TV, Shannon is good
Speaker 1: on TV. When I get the opportunity to watch, he's
Speaker 1: he holds his own and then some with Skip Bayliss,
Speaker 1: he's you know a lot of athletes make that transition,
Speaker 1: but they think just because you're an athlete, all you
Speaker 1: have to do is put on a tie and comb
Speaker 1: your hair and have a microphone on, and therefore you're
Speaker 1: doing your job. He actually says something, and uh, in
Speaker 1: today's age with you know, former athletes, it's not just hey,
Speaker 1: you just show up and talk and then we go Wow.
Speaker 1: I really love listening to him. Yeah, what did he say? Oh?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he seems like a really pleasant guy.
Speaker 1: Now we want you to actually say things. And there's
Speaker 1: a real possibility with Peyton Manning maybe doing you know,
Speaker 1: Amazon Thursday Night Football and that that would be that
Speaker 1: would be interesting to see how how Peyton jumps in
Speaker 1: there and does his Tony Romo role. Yeah, mclovin, is
Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky big enough a star that does he have
Speaker 1: to say something? I think he's too nice. I think
Speaker 1: that's just Wayne's personality. But you have star power, but
Speaker 1: you got to say something. There have been a lot
Speaker 1: of great former players and coaches and they get in
Speaker 1: there and they don't say anything. Mark Messier is doing
Speaker 1: studio for the Mother's Ship during the Stanley Cup Final.
Speaker 1: What did we Learn On today's award nominated program, Reggie
Speaker 1: Mills says Yannis is the best player in the bucks
Speaker 1: for three and a half quarters, but closing time belongs
Speaker 1: to Chris Middleton. It's like, what is it? Semi sonic
Speaker 1: closing time? Is that the name of the one less
Speaker 1: call for alcohol? Yeah? McLevin. Scottie Pippa has something to say.
Speaker 1: Yes he does. Setn O'Connor. Scottie Pippin by guns. Maybe
Speaker 1: not now, Pollie. Scottie came through in the clutch today,
Speaker 1: Yes he did. Yes, a good job with Todd with
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