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Speaker 1: Welcome to Wellness on MASS.

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Speaker 2: I'm doctor Nicole Saffire and I'm very excited that he

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Speaker 2: joined us this week.

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Speaker 1: An interesting topic today.

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Speaker 2: It is November, so that means it is November, which

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Speaker 2: means that the men's health month. You may see more

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Speaker 2: people walking around with facial hair mustaches.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of that time of year.

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Speaker 2: Instead of all the pink during October for Breast Cancer

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Speaker 2: Awareness Month, people are growing facial hair in November as

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Speaker 2: a reminder that men's health matters too. And in the

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Speaker 2: same vein, something very interesting happened to me a non

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Speaker 2: man this past week. So if you recall, we had

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Speaker 2: Scott Adams on the podcast a couple months ago. Now,

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Speaker 2: Scott Adams is he probably is most well known for

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Speaker 2: being the Dilbert creator, the comic strip.

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Speaker 1: He's also written several books.

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Speaker 2: He's widely known in a lot of various different circles.

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Speaker 1: I actually love listening to him.

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Speaker 2: He does these mourning live streams on social media called

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Speaker 2: like Coffee with Scott, and you know, he's just he

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Speaker 2: is just so real and he just talks to you

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Speaker 2: about everything that he's reading, everything that he's thinking. After

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Speaker 2: President Biden earlier this year, came out with his diagnosis

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Speaker 2: of prostate cancer. Scott Adams decided to also share with

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Speaker 2: the world that he too had been diagnosed with prostate cancer.

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Speaker 2: And just like President Biden, Scott was diagnosed with metastatic

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Speaker 2: or stage four advanced prostate cancer. It had metastasized, it

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Speaker 2: had left his prostate and had gone to his bones.

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Speaker 2: So when he was diagnosed, and by the way, you

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Speaker 2: can go back to our episode with Scott where he

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Speaker 2: goes into all details of this, Scott was diagnosed with

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Speaker 2: advanced prostate cancer. You know, he was kind of given

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Speaker 2: to undergo some of the treatments. He had some concerns

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Speaker 2: about taking anti testos therapy what would this.

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Speaker 2: So he decided not to do the standard treatments that

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Speaker 2: were being recommended. He did try some unconventional treatments, which

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Speaker 2: after about a month, I guess they noticed that his

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Speaker 2: lab values were not only not getting better, but they

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Speaker 2: And in Scott's own words, once he actually started taking

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Speaker 2: He was actually considering suicide because of the amount of

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Speaker 2: pain he was in and that he just did not

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Speaker 2: he felt fine again, and he got cats and he's

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Speaker 2: still live streaming. But again, you can go back to

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Speaker 2: the podcast, you can go through all of those details.

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Speaker 2: What happened in the last week was Scott took to

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Speaker 2: social media. So one of the big things that happened

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Speaker 2: tells us all about it in the first episode. One

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Speaker 2: of the things President Trump said to him, if I

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Speaker 2: can ever do something for you, let me know. Now,

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Speaker 2: people say that to people all the time and they

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Speaker 2: know he means it. Scott was finding himself having difficulty

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Speaker 2: getting scheduled for this new treatment that.

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Speaker 2: His insurance company approved it, which, by the way, that's

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Speaker 2: the biggest hurdle when it comes to healthcare in general,

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Speaker 2: is getting past the insurance companies. Well, the insurance companies

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Speaker 2: approved the medication. This treatment for Scott, but he was

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Speaker 2: having a hard time getting it scheduled because it wasn't

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Speaker 2: like just going to your pharmacy and taking a pill.

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Speaker 2: you a little bit more about that. So there were

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Speaker 2: a lot of logistics, but Scott was decompensating, and he

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Speaker 1: He said, it's Sunday or Saturday, what every day it was?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to reach out to President Trump on Monday.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him know I need help because Kaiser

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Speaker 2: Everyone was on it. Scott got personal calls by all

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Speaker 2: these people. I was talking to him offline a little bit.

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Speaker 2: We all wanted to help anything that we could do.

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Speaker 2: And the good news is Scott already started the treatment

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Speaker 2: But what I wanted to tell you about that was

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Speaker 2: the medications. This person went on this tirade on social

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Speaker 1: He didn't follow what I'm saying to do or like something.

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember the exact thing, but it was

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Speaker 2: just so inappropriate, so I decided to I know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling a little saucy. Sometimes most of the time

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Speaker 2: I'm not. But it really upset me that this guy

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Speaker 2: of people who come in saying that they're doing what

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Speaker 2: this guy talks about doing. It's taking some of those

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Speaker 2: anti parasitic medications for their cancer, and they don't. They

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Speaker 2: taking the anti parasitics. Now, I'm not saying that this

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Speaker 2: guy says that's what you should do. I'm just telling

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Speaker 2: some of the other patients I've seen, and being other ones,

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Speaker 2: they forego what's being recommended the standard of care to

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Speaker 2: it doesn't work for and it gets worse. Now, are

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Speaker 2: there some studies that have shown that if you take

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Speaker 2: especially in studies that are done in areas of the

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Speaker 2: world where there's a huge parasite overload. You think you

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Speaker 2: think getting rid of parasites might help you fight off cancer.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, if I had a terminal cancer,

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Speaker 1: It's possible.

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Speaker 2: So what this guy said was I tried to help

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Speaker 1: Scott quit after one month, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: but he went on and on and on, and you

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Speaker 2: So I took his post and I said, Scott quit

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Speaker 2: started evidence based treatment sooner. I'm not opposed to off

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Speaker 2: Unleash this legal fury blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was a lot needless to stay.

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Speaker 2: And then and then there was like this massive attack

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Speaker 2: I mean, people, listen, if you are promising that you

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Speaker 2: us who work in the cancer industry that were the

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Speaker 2: villains and we're just these puppets a big pharma and

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Speaker 2: You're the one guy who's fighting us all and you

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Speaker 2: I mean, you've seen how cults work, and I get it.

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Speaker 2: as social media does not dictate my life, and the

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Speaker 1: I actually wish that a lot of these doctors.

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Speaker 2: The vaccines had just come out, not for the kids,

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Speaker 2: The lines you had to go through it was terrible.

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Speaker 2: my thought process was, why don't you? And by the way,

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Speaker 2: just like go and watch baseball and eat hot dogs

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Speaker 2: in peace? Obviously that I don't wasn't communicated during that message,

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Speaker 2: a lot of the surrounding tissues. These specific radioligand therapies

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Speaker 2: it really just are targeting right there, these prostate cancer cells.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's quite remarkable. It's like sending a microscopic

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Speaker 2: heat seeking missile just straight to the cancer cells and

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Speaker 2: it doesn't affect things around it. Clinical trials have actually

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Speaker 2: shown this medication can slow disease progress by about thirty percent,

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Speaker 2: and in many cases it reduces pain and can improve

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Speaker 2: the quality of life for the men who've tried some

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Speaker 2: of these other treatments. Scott also mentioned that he is

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Speaker 2: taking another medication in addition to the plu Victo, and

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Speaker 2: that is called BioShield, which sounds like a very you know,

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Speaker 2: if I were coming up with a cancer medication or

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Speaker 2: a protective medication, BioShield that sounds like a strong name. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: what it is it helps to boost his immune system.

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Speaker 2: So the radioactive treatment is going to kill those cancer cells,

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Speaker 2: and he's boosting his own immune system to also help

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Speaker 2: kill those cancer cells, filter them out, and just try

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Speaker 2: to get him too as healthy as he possibly can.

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Speaker 2: So I've kind of gone on and on. But what

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Speaker 2: can we all learn from this? Well, I guess first

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Speaker 2: and foremost, stay off social media. It's obnoxious. Just kidding,

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Speaker 2: that's not what we're learning here. When it comes to

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Speaker 2: men's health, prostate cancer is one of the most common

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Speaker 2: things a man will deal with in his lifetime, not

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Speaker 2: just the cancer that can form in the prostate, but

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Speaker 2: some other benign things that can be forming in the prostate.

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Speaker 2: So if you are a man by the time you

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Speaker 2: are forty, you should start talking to your doctor about

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Speaker 2: what should I be doing to monitor my prostate health.

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Speaker 1: If you have a family history.

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Speaker 2: Of father, grandfather, brother, whatever it may be, who has

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Speaker 2: a history of prostate cancer or prostate relif issues, you

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Speaker 2: should maybe even have that conversation with your doctor earlier.

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Speaker 2: On Early detection matters, It matters for a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Definitely matters when it comes to prostate cancer. I know

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Speaker 2: a lot of people always want that unconventional treatment, they

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Speaker 2: want that cancer cure. I will tell you it rarely

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Speaker 2: works for aggressive cancers. I understand the hesitation, the fear

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Speaker 2: of surgery, the side effects of hormone therapy, but delaying

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Speaker 2: care can be very dangerous. Cancer does not wait for

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Speaker 2: us to make peace with our options. Sometimes we have time,

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Speaker 2: other times we don't, and early detection really does save lives.

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Speaker 2: So if you have been diagnosed with a late stage

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Speaker 2: aggressive cancer, I recommend you talk to your doctors, doctor,

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Speaker 2: your family, see what's right for you. Maybe it's trying

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Speaker 2: unconventional treatments, maybe doing in combination with what your doctors

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Speaker 2: are recommending, or maybe you decide you don't want to

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Speaker 2: do anything.

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Speaker 1: It's your journey, it's your life.

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Speaker 2: You do you, but for everyone listening, early detection again

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Speaker 2: is very important. I know no one likes to get

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Speaker 2: a rectal exam. The good news is you don't really

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Speaker 2: need to have one anymore. Some doctors still do them

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Speaker 2: because they really can help detect prostate cancer. Some people

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Speaker 2: will just opt for that blood test where you're getting

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Speaker 2: the PSA test, that prostate specific antigen and it's not perfect,

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Speaker 2: but it is a powerful tool, and many men avoid

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Speaker 2: it because they don't want to talk about. You know,

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Speaker 2: those kind of exams, or they think prostate cancer is

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Speaker 2: always slow growing, but the reality is some forms are aggressive,

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Speaker 2: especially if you are an African American male, if you

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Speaker 2: have a family history of prostate cancer, because you may

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Speaker 2: have some sort of thing going on in your genes

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Speaker 2: that makes it grow faster. And obviously, waiting until symptoms

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Speaker 2: appear can mean that it's already too late for you

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Speaker 2: to be cured. So if you want a chance of

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Speaker 2: curing your cancer, you want to make sure you catch

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Speaker 2: it as early as possible.

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Speaker 1: Some of those early.

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Speaker 2: Warning signs that I kind of mentioned, frequent urination, especially

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Speaker 2: at night. Don't just call it getting old. It may

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Speaker 2: just be getting old old men, but make sure it's

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Speaker 2: not something else. Difficulties starting or stopping urination. You know,

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Speaker 2: if things just feel different when you're using the urinal,

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Speaker 2: that's a sign a weak or interrupted stream. I'm not

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Speaker 2: going to go into what that means, but you know,

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Speaker 2: you know what it beats blood in the urine or

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Speaker 2: in semen, pain in the lower back, hips, or pelvis.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes this can just be from the cancer and the prostate.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes this means that the cancer cells have already left

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Speaker 2: the prostate and gone to the bones and If you

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Speaker 2: overnight develop a rectile dysfunction, it's sudden.

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Speaker 1: That's not normal either. Talk to your doctor now.

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Speaker 2: Keep in mind those symptoms do not always mean cancer.

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Speaker 2: They can come from prostate enlargement or some type of

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Speaker 2: infection which may be easily treated with antibiotics.

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Speaker 1: You never know. Don't be afraid to go to the doctor.

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Speaker 1: There may be an easy fix.

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Speaker 2: But if you notice them, don't shrug them off. Please

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Speaker 2: just get checked out. I'm doctor Nicol Sapphire. This is

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Speaker 2: well in a s unmass. This is November. Going to

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Speaker 2: probably keep talking about some mens health issues, physical and mental.

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Speaker 2: Make sure to listen to Wellness un Masks with doctor

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Speaker 2: Nicole Sapphire on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts

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Speaker 2: and I'll see you next time