1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. This is straight 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: Fire for Tuesday, November nine. I hope you guys are 4 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: recovered from as wild of a Monday in sports as 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: I can recall in quite some time. Uh. And I'm 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: not just talking about Monday night football. I'm talking about 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: the fight in the NBA. I'm talking about Steph Curry 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 1: exploding against the Atlanta Hawks. He went absolutely berserk. I'm 9 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: talking about Damon our Nette of the Raiders. If you 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 1: guys don't even know who he is because he barely plays. 11 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: He's not good losing his job in the NFL over 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: some random dude who tweeted at him. I mean, what 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: are we doing? Like? It's just sports have gotten crazy. 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're coming out of COVID and 15 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: we're slowly emerging from this long hibernation and now we're 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: just getting back to normal where people are doing just dumb, 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: insanely foolish things. I'll just say this, I cannot wait 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: to talk in a few minutes about the Yokich fight 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: against the Morris Twin, one of the dirty Morris Twins 20 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: and then Jimmy Butler trying to fight the Yokich brothers 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: who um as as somebody said on uh social media, 22 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: they're not scared of anybody in a basketball court. They 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: grew up throwing rocks at tanks. Now I don't know 24 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: if that's exactly what happened in Serbia, but goodness gracious, 25 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: the NBA stays exciting. But I have to start with 26 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers getting lucky to defeat the Chicago Bears on 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. And even if you don't really care 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: about this game and you don't really care about the 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: officiating because you don't want to be official guy, blame 30 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: the refs guy. And I don't want to be that guy. 31 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,279 Speaker 1: I really don't. But there's no other way to open 32 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: the Monday night football result outside of gambling, which I'll 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: get to in a second. With what the hell are 34 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: the ref's doing in the NFL? This taunting stuff is 35 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: complete nonsense a the I don't know where the insistence 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: of we got we gotta curb this taunting and trash 37 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: tug Like, where was the who said there was a 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: need for that? Is this a bunch of rich white guys? 39 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: Who are the owners saying our league's getting a little 40 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: too straight there with the trash talk and the taunting 41 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: and the figure pointing and the throat slash gestures, like 42 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: there was nobody saying that that was the thing. And 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: now the NFL is going overboard and you've got officials 44 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: looking and waiting and looking and throwing dumb flags, ruining 45 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: what could be a great product. I'll tell you right now. 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears nearly pulled that game out thanks to 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, who was phenomenal. Justin Fields against a pretty 48 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: damn good defense look like an NFL quarterback. You know, 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: we watched Jordan Loves Sunday against the Chiefs, like whoa 50 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: dear in the headlights? Justin Fields is like, okay, I 51 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: get this, I'm going through my progressions. I've got time 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: in the pocket. The Bears offensive line actually was serviceable 53 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: and just a phenomenal performance by Fields to keep him 54 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: in the game. And the refs just can't stop throwing 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: flags on the Bears. I mean, twelve penalties for a 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen yards on the Bears and it didn't 57 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: totally impact the game, but with like five minutes left, 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: the Bears defense should have got off the field and 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: the Cassius Marsh taunting. He didn't say a word. He 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: did like a karate kick to the air. What's wrong 61 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: with that? And then he looked at the Steelers sideline. 62 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: You can the cameras caught him, like you can see 63 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: his face. He's just staring like, yeah, he didn't say 64 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: a word, just staring at the sideline. Turns around. The 65 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: ref was watching him the whole time. Then the ref 66 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: initiates contact by backing into him and then throws the flag. 67 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: It's like, what on earth is that? And again I'm 68 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: not blame the ref guy because everybody hates to blame 69 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: the ref guy. It's like, come on, get over it, 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: you know. And it was just like, I can't really 71 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: believe he did that in that juncture, gave Pittsburgh the 72 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: first down. Um they ended up getting the ball back, 73 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: the Bears did, and they took the lead briefly before 74 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: Big Ben pulled out the wind. But I think the 75 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: only takeaway from this, outside of the taunting nonsense, is 76 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: the best quarterback on the field on Monday Night football 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: was justin fields. There's no doubt about that. I mean, 78 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: averaging ten yards per attempt while Dinkin dunk Roethlisberger thirty 79 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: past attempts two yards. Like again, he looks like a 80 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: refrigerator in the pocket. He can't move. He was able 81 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: to scramble for a couple of yards, uh, trying to 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: get that first down there at the end of the 83 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: game when they kicked the field goal. But the Steelers 84 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: just are not a good football team. The Bears, they 85 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: weren't good heading into the fourth and then of course 86 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: the Steelers defense falls asleep. And this is the problem 87 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: with gambling in the NFL right now. And I'm not 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: talking about the taunting stuff, like you could have read 89 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: a game and diagnosed it perfectly, handicapped it to the 90 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: t perfection. Steelers Bears dead nut under. It's twenty two 91 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: six heading into the fourth quarter, the Steelers really locking 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: up the Bears and feeling good about the under thirty nine, 93 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 1: under forty whatever was feeling good about the Steelers covering seven, 94 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: and then just chaos erupts in the fourth quarter, just 95 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: total flukey, Uh. Thirty points in the fourth blows the 96 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: under out of the water. And again if you had 97 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: the under in Saint Falcons, same deal. I think it 98 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: was twenty four to six with like eleven minutes left 99 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: under looking great, and then there was like twenty seven 100 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. It's like, really, it can 101 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: be so frustrating to gamble in these games. Steelers should 102 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: have easily covered seven, and then you look in the 103 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: box cord and you're like, well, actually, should they have? 104 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: I mean the Bears had four d and fourteen yards 105 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: to to eighty. The Bears average seven point one yards 106 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: per play. They were getting chunk after chunk. The Steelers 107 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: were four point two yards per play, basically four yards 108 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: in a cloud of dust. Naja Harris looked pretty good, 109 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: although in a funny note, Naja Harris was not thrilled 110 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: at the announcer. Who I think, Rob you can check 111 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: me on this. I think it was Steve Levy. And 112 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: first of all, Steve Levy told this like two minute 113 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: story about Naja Harris sleeping on the floor at Alabama, 114 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: and Naja Harris after the game last night, goes on 115 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: social media is like, bro, I ain't sleep on the floor, 116 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: I stepped. I slept in a bed. And it's like, okay, 117 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: that was bad enough calling out the announcer for that, 118 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: but it gets even worse. The announcer has like an 119 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: angle on the Bears have like a sixty six yard 120 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: field goal to try to win the game, and he 121 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: goes off the crossbar, the doing gets short, Steelers win, 122 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: and then the replay shows it was like not even 123 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: close to the cross bars, like eight yards short. Uh, 124 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: it was like in the end zone and it was 125 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: like how did he see that? And then he had 126 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: to adjust to be like, oh my bad, I got 127 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: that kind of wrong. But I don't know. Just all 128 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: around bizarre our game, a little frustrating from a gambling standpoint. Listen, 129 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: if you teased it, uh, you're fine. Um. The Steelers 130 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: were able to cover one on the on the tease, 131 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: and and listen, this is not a great weekend for 132 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: teasers for the gamblers out there. But you can't win 133 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: teasing the entire season. Okay, that's not ten weeks. I 134 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: think I'm probably like seven and three weeks of hitting teasers. Um, 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: but straight up, this past weekend was a rough one. Um. 136 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: So Steelers survive. They are fully in the playoff mix 137 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: in the a f C. We ran down the a 138 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: f C on Monday and if you look at the standings, 139 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 1: eleven teams are above the entire A f C North, 140 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: the entire a f C West, and then the Titans, Bills, 141 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: and Patriots. This is just pure insanity and we are 142 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: only at the halfway mark of the season. Steelers, by 143 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: the way, five and three record negative eight point difference. 144 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Not great. Now the Chargers are five and three, negative 145 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: two point differential. Chiefs have an negative point differential. Rob 146 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: G's Raiders plus seven. They have a huge game against 147 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs this week. We'll spend a lot of time 148 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: on that. By the way, we have a really good 149 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: gambler coming up on the pod tomorrow, so definitely flag 150 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: that you already subscribe, rate and review as you're supposed 151 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: to do um, but tomorrow's a pod will be heavy 152 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: on the NFL gambling. I quickly want to talk Rob G. 153 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: I've got to ask you about this. Your Raiders have 154 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: had a rough week, Okay, Henry Rugs kill somebody driving 155 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty six miles an hour in Vegas. 156 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: He's going to prison. Probably he was drunk and there. 157 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: One of the first round draft picks, Damon Arnett, has 158 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: been released by the Raiders for threats he made to 159 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: someone online. And Rob I was kind of poking around 160 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: on this I'm like, what are you threats? Who's he threatening? 161 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: Random fans get angry at NFL players and yell at 162 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: them on social media, and really idiotic fans decide I'm 163 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna d M these guys and tell them that they suck. Well, 164 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: that's not really smart. So apparently Damon Arnett, Ohio State 165 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: Education NFL player, he's unhappy that someone got in his 166 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: d M s and said you suck. By the way, 167 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: people tell me this like ten times a day, I 168 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: don't really care. My theory is, nobody comes up to 169 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: your face and says you suck in life. Nobody's yelling 170 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: at you in the streets. They don't do that at bars. 171 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen, So why would I let people 172 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: do it to me on social media? So I just 173 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: blocked them. I have no no problem. I just block them. 174 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm not gonna let these people I 175 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: don't even know bother me. You know, you gotta have 176 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of confidence in yourself and not let 177 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: these random jabronies get you down. Not Damon Arnette. He 178 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: decided to take a video of himself with a gun 179 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: and send it to the guy. So then this meatball 180 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: tough guy who was talking trash five minutes ago. Was like, 181 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Damon Arnette, he shot me a threat. It's like, really, 182 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: David Ornett got released. Now, Rob, Before you chime in, 183 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: I do have to I did. I have to have 184 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: to admit laughing out loud at this. Ian Rappaport sent 185 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: this out on Monday, and according to the NFL Network reporter, 186 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: in our nets first year in the NFL, he crashed 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: four rental cars within roughly a month. Four rental cars 188 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: in a month. Um. I don't know why an NFL 189 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: first round pick is driving a rental car. Um, but 190 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: he not only drove one, he drove four and he 191 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: crashed for rental cars. So Rob, I'll let you take 192 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: it away there as the resident Raids fan, defend your franchise, 193 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: which is crumbling as we speak. Okay, I mean I 194 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: wish you would have told me to defend them after 195 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: a win or something like that. Maybe to defend it 196 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,359 Speaker 1: after that. No, No, come on, I got Amon Arnett situation. 197 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: As far as the rental car situation, I just hope 198 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: he got the insurance right, That's all I'm gonna say. No, 199 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: So I probably promise you that he had to pay 200 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: a lot more than he expected. Look, Damon Arnett was 201 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: a reach from the beginning. Now, I can't even say 202 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 1: that this is surprising to me, given that at a round, 203 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: the combine and the draft time when all this was 204 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: coming up, the consensus on him was, yes, he has 205 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: starting NFL cornerback talent, but he does have some red 206 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: flags with character that that was open secret. You can 207 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: read whoever your favorite draft analyst is, pick your guy, 208 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks, uh, Dane Brugler, whoever, and and 209 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: to a man, they all had the same thing. So 210 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: it's not really surprising that something like this would pop up. 211 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: I will say, it's just disappointing that so many people 212 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: in the media you didn't really do this, but you 213 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: kind of just tell the story, are lumping in this 214 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: Damon our Nett situation with the Henry Ruggs situation because 215 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: they were both first round picks in they're both no 216 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: longer with the team, as if the two are in 217 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: any way related. Damon ar Nett everybody knew who he was. 218 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: He was kind of a headcase, a bad apple, so 219 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: to speak, so nobody was really surprised at what went down. 220 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs. Ask all his teammates with Raiders, ask all 221 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: his teammates in Alabama, asking anyone who knows him. He 222 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: seemed to be a great kid. He just made a colossal, senseless, 223 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: stupid mistake. Well, there were reports that he's been driving 224 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: like a lunatic for years. Um, some women had tweeted 225 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: going out. You know, I felt like Henry nearly died 226 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: driving with Henry Ruggs. Or he drives too fast and 227 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 1: if you look, his cars have historically been yet he 228 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: has a sports car, but it's he the only NFL 229 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: player at fresh Comply who has a sports car. Pretty 230 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: clear he had it. He's had a need for speed 231 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: for a while. Um, I'm not crushing Henry Ruggs. You know, 232 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Carr was kind of right. Listen, he needs people at 233 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: a time like this. He's just ruined his life. He's 234 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 1: going to jail several lives. Yeah, I mean, like, like 235 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: I said, there's no excuse for what he did, and 236 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: he deserves to go to jail for what he did. 237 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: But to make it seem like the Raiders, oh, all 238 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: they do is draft bad guys. All they do with 239 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: draft bad apples, Like that's not the case. You know, 240 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: they missed on a plenty of guys in the draft, 241 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: especially I think they had five picks in the first 242 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: two rounds and only one of them is with the 243 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: team right now. Still, so you know, fine, they missed 244 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: on some picks, but just it's it's not fair to 245 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: conflate Henry Ruggs situation with the name of Arnett situation 246 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: because Dame and Arnette, you know, we saw this one coming. 247 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would have been like, yeah, I 248 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: always knew that Henry Ruggs was the kind of guy 249 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: to get drunk off his ass dun fift six miles 250 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: an hour down the side street and seriously injured his 251 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: own girl and kill somebody Like I don't think that's 252 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: something that people were talking about with his draft evaluation. Yeah, 253 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,959 Speaker 1: the um, you're right there their draft. I just looked 254 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: it up. Um and listen. Uh. Mike Mayock's daughter works 255 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio. We know her. Um, nice person. 256 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: Um I've interacted with. She was super nice. Mike Mayock. 257 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: I like him as a draft analyst. His draft. Now, again, 258 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was pulling the strings or 259 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: this was Gruden, who you know as a star guy 260 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: loves to grab stars. First pick Henry Ruggs, probably in prison. 261 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: Damon Arnett second pick, also first round, has been released 262 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: because he threatened someone a fan with a gun. Uh. 263 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: The third pick, their third round pick, is a guy 264 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: by the name of Lyndon Bowden, talented kid out of Kentucky. 265 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: The Raiders whiffed on him so badly, Rob. He was 266 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: traded before the preseason started. They drafted him and then 267 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: they were like, oh my gosh, this guy's a nightmare. 268 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: He is way too loose of a cain and what 269 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: the hell do we get ourselves into? And they traded 270 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: him before he had taken a preseason snap. That's how 271 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: I drafted. Drafted him in the third round, traded him 272 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: for a fourth rounder before he ever played a snap. Like, 273 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's possible. I mean, this was 274 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: this is not that long ago. I mean, I guess 275 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: you could blame the pandemic scouting reports, but otto Rob 276 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: Raiders are a mess. Fox Sports Radio has the best 277 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 278 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 279 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 280 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: I know it's NFL season November awesome, NFL time college football. Um, 281 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: but I just need to do a couple of minutes 282 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: on the NBA. You guys know, if if you needed 283 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: me too, I could just riff on the NBA because 284 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: the storylines are phenomenal. Um. First of all, shout out 285 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: to my guys, Deph Curry another fifty point tennisis game 286 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: because this is what he does. You. I know, people 287 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: take superstars for granted now like they do that with 288 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: Lebron a lot. I'm just thrilled that I was able 289 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: to move out to the West Coast in just in 290 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: time to watch like all the Steph Curry games late. 291 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: You know, if you're living on the East Coast, guys, 292 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Curry tipping late all the time, there's a good chance 293 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: you didn't see a lot of his highlights. Now, yeah, 294 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: YouTube exists and you can just go watch him, uh 295 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: splash nine threes against the Hawks, no problem. But to 296 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: see it in real time, to start getting text from 297 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: guys like, oh my gosh, Curry has twenty five and 298 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: fourteen minutes. You need to turn this on. Like it's 299 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: pretty fun and it's just a joy to watch Steph Curry. 300 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: It really is I love that guy. That being said, 301 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's a wild night in the NBA when 302 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: he has fifty and ten and he's not one of 303 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: the top stories. This Jimmy Butler Yokis thing is pretty phenomenal. Now, 304 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: Rob G and I are kind of on different sides here. 305 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: I think, um to recap it if you haven't seen 306 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: the high lights, Yokich and the Nuggets were up big 307 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: Yokich at a triple double, and it's late in the game. 308 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: Yokich uh dribbles the ball up the court is gonna 309 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: like bump into a guy to like take a three 310 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: from half court, ha ha ha. And Morris kind of 311 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: one of the Morris goons, and you know, we love 312 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: to rip on this podcast, basically decks Yokich a cheap 313 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: shot that's a definitely foul, probably was gonna be a flagrant, 314 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: and they the ref blows the whistle. Well, Yokich is seething, 315 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: Matt super angry and just runs his entire body right 316 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: at Morris who had turned his back, and just decks 317 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: him like a shoulder blade into Morris. And now Morris 318 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: is a big dude, but Yokich is like six seventy 319 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: the guy is enormous, okay, and Morris clearly was injured. 320 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: I would not be surprised if he's out for a 321 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: little while. Yokis is gonna get suspended. But it sets 322 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: off this melee of you know the usual NBA like 323 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: pushing and gesturing and drawing, you know the typical stuff. No, 324 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: these are millionaires. I don't expect him to throw punches. 325 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: Like there's some guys at a bar and then the 326 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: camera pants to Jimmy Butler, who is talking to someone 327 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: and gesturing, let's go to the parking lot right now. 328 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: You be a MF blah blah blah, and Jimmy Butler's heated. 329 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: He's like backing up, like let's go, come on, let's 330 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: clapping his Let's call the parking lot right now, let's go. 331 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: And you guys know, I have a soft spot for 332 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler. Okay. I had a Fox Sports Radio Saturday 333 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: show for the longest time, and you know, probably one 334 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: of my top fifty takes was I would take Jimmy 335 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: Butler over Kawhi Leonard Um And a lot of this 336 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: was when Kauai was like quote unquote injured with the spurs. 337 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: But Butler is just one of these guys who you 338 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: have to respect. His story is legendary. He was not 339 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: like a three or four star recruit. Okay, this guy 340 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: was like a no star recruit in Chicago. Had to 341 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: go to Juco route was some obscene him, like I 342 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: don't know, like the number two and fIF d or 343 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: whatever number Juco player not on anybody's radar. Somehow gets 344 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: into Marquette. Um had to facts his uh litter of intent. Yeah, 345 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: they use Fax machines back then from a McDonald's, okay. 346 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler is a guy who came from nothing, gets 347 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: the Marquette in like year two. He's like Big East 348 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: All All first Team, Big East, okay, and falls I 349 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: think to the second round. Rob you can check that 350 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: of the draft and Jimmy Butler, you know, first season 351 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: average like one point per game, nothing whatever. By like 352 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: season three, he's like an All NBA guy, all Star, 353 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,479 Speaker 1: awesome defender, and he's like integral in the Chicuggle Bulls. Like. 354 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: I love stories like that, Guys who overcame massive odds, 355 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: got paid. Jimmy Butler, by the way, got the Heat 356 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: to the finals in the bubble, this historic stuff. I'm 357 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: a huge Jimmy Butler fan awesome talent and he's worked 358 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: hard for everything. He's a dog on defense and he's 359 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 1: a bad ass mofo. Not a guy I would mess with. Now, 360 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: you guys have told some stories about Steven Jackson, the 361 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: m a guy who is retired now, but he got 362 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: in several fights in the NBA. He knows Jimmy Butler. Well, Um, 363 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: Steven Jackson, by the way, probably and I hope this 364 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: didn't come off the wrong way. Um, I probably shouldn't 365 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: even say anyways, Stephen Jackson is an intimidating character. Although 366 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: when I worked with him, he's a softie and super 367 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: nice and friendly, and you're like, Wow, this is Jimmy 368 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: jack Stephen Jackson's like a big scary dude when he's 369 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: talking trash on the court, and then you see him 370 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: at Fox. You know we're sharing a dressing room. It's 371 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: like the nicest guy telling all these stories. He doesn't 372 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: fake the funk. And I know a lot of people 373 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: think these NBA players don't really want to smoke. Some 374 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: of them don't mind it. And I don't think Steven 375 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: Jackson's ever walking away from anything, and I don't I 376 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: think Jimmy Butler's in that deal like he's not afraid 377 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: of anybody. Um so I absolutely loved him talking trash 378 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: to the yok brothers. And if you haven't read the 379 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: story about the Yoka brothers poke around. They are some 380 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: large Serbian gentlemen who are just you know, guys who 381 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: are like Olympic level dudes in terms of toughness and wrestling, 382 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: and they're just huge. And if Butler was talking to them, 383 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: that just makes the Jimmy Butler legend grow even larger. 384 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Am I supposed to respond? I don't know what to 385 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: say to that. No, Jimmy Butler is one of the 386 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: guys who was not a studio gangster. But everything you 387 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: said about Jimmy Butler, sure, I don't want to dismiss 388 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: anything about Jimmy Butler. He's one of the legitimate tough 389 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: guys and also a good guy. You know. I'm I 390 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: have nothing negative to say about Jimmy Butler. The premise 391 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: of this whole discussion, though, is what I have an 392 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: issue with, Like this all started because of the Yokich 393 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: More I twin, I know you can say more. I 394 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: you never know which one is which get their a 395 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: little squabble at mid court. Now, the Morris Twins started 396 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: with a little chicken wing to to Yogi's ribs. You 397 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: know that was it was clearly meant to send some 398 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: kind of men. I don't know what the message was 399 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: because they were getting killed by Yogi, but it was 400 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: clearly meant to irritate and send, like hey, a physical 401 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: message them. So as soon as he turns his back, 402 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: Yoka chits and with a cheap shot. And it was 403 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: a cheap shot. But this is where I had an issue. 404 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: As soon as the Morris hits, Like I know, Yogi 405 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: is a big guy, but he does not move fast. 406 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: So even with a running start, he's coming at you 407 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,479 Speaker 1: at like what eleven or whatever it is, and he 408 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: clips you in the back and you would swear that 409 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: the Morris twin got shot like he was down for 410 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: the county, got up and then was oh no, I'm 411 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: back down again. I just can't, I can't breathe, and 412 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,479 Speaker 1: I'm out of here, like it was it to me. 413 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: It's just illustrated the difference between NBA players and like 414 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: football players because those kind of hits happen every other 415 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: play in football. I know, you guys have pads on. 416 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: You can say, you can make that that qualifier, but 417 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: they're also coming in full speed sprint. Every time these 418 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 1: collisions take place, and you know what happens. They're down 419 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: the floor for three seconds, they get up, line up 420 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: and do it again. Line up and do it again, 421 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: line up and do it again. This happens one time 422 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: in the NBA, and this guy's laid out for minutes, 423 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: and and then then and then you know again. I 424 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: don't want to take a shot at Jimmy Butler, but 425 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: when all of this happened and everybody's you know, breaking 426 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: it all up after this this this went down, Jimmy 427 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: Butler is standing within four ft of Nicola Yokich, not 428 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: saying anything to him. He's just standing there watching as 429 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: the guys are breaking things up. And it's not until 430 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: later that he gets real agitated. So it makes me 431 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: think that he wasn't really mad at the act. He 432 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: was mad at somebody else. It's the tough guy from 433 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: the outside, yelling, yelling trash, hold me back, hold me 434 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: back guy. You know that, dude. Yeah, And so look, man, 435 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: I know Jimmy Butler's not one of those guys, but 436 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: as a whole as a league. As a profession, NBA 437 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: players are the biggest studio gangsters in all of sports. 438 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: That's harsh. It's not fair because you brought up two 439 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 1: guys who are like legitimately tough guys like I know 440 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: Jack a little bit too. You know, we've had him 441 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: on the radio show. I think I've met him once 442 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: and and yes he is a very tough guy. But 443 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: you can count. It's less. It's single digits, how many 444 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: legitimate tough guys there are in basketball. Yeah, I mean again, 445 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: these guys have been the biggest guy. If you are 446 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: six ten to fifty and you throw a punch at somebody, 447 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna influx a major damnit drop if 448 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 1: you're six seven. Not necessarily because most of these guys, okay, 449 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: for two reasons. Number one, of people who not hard 450 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: to throw a punch. You can think that you do 451 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: because you know, you gotten a fight one time in 452 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 1: sixth grade and you punched the kid and he found over. 453 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: So you think you know what the row punch, or 454 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: that you know you're not afraid of get into a 455 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: bar fight. But if you ask anybody who actually you 456 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: know studies boxing or martial arts or anything that they'll 457 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: tell you. Nobody knows how to the row punch, none 458 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: of none of these regular guys. That's number one, number 459 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: two when you're six seven, two fifty pounds, like I 460 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: know that that sounds big, but these guys arms are 461 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: three and a half feet long, so they can't really 462 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: get a good you know, compact motion. Number one and 463 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: number two. They're so tall that they're actually thinner than 464 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: what you think that they are. Most of these guys 465 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: when you see him up closed, like we've had Matt 466 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Barnes Jackson, we had Matt Barnes in studio several times 467 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: in Fox Sports Radio. He's six seven, I think he's 468 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: like but he looks like he wears a medium shirt, 469 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: Like he's tall and skinny versus you know, we've had 470 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: uh tarall Owens, We've had you know, Greg Jennings, and 471 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: these guys aren't even big guys like as receivers, but 472 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: you just see how much thicker they are, Like there's 473 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 1: a difference between five ten to twenty and six seven 474 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: to twenty. It's it's a huge difference. Yeah. Greg Jennings, 475 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: by the way, um now is like a bodybuilding champion. Yeah, yeah, 476 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: he is a legit tank um. But yeah, no. I 477 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: I've hosted radio shows with Matt Barnes and he is 478 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: the most soft spoken, nice guy. And then on the 479 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: court though, you know, he's one of those dudes who 480 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: you know, the switch flips and he's a different guy. 481 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: And some people have that. I know a lot of 482 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: guys like that actually who play basketball. It's like, oh, 483 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: it's different you on the court. But I don't know. 484 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure that a lot of these guys understand, like nobody, 485 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: nobody ever wins a fight. You know, you're either gonna 486 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: get in trouble, you're gonna get hurt. Uh. And if 487 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: you're Jimmy Butler and you throw a punch, you're probably 488 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: gonna get sued big time. That's why I said go 489 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: to the back, because he's not gonna throw in the 490 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: era of camera phones, don't know, don't you miss that? 491 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: I know that we're going off topic, or don't you 492 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: miss remember I think this was a preseason game where 493 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: Rick Fox and Doug Christie got into it and they 494 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: both pointed at the back, like let's go meet in 495 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: the back then, and they actually met in the back 496 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: like in the tunnel, and they were actually going at it. 497 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: That was pretty boy, Rick Fox. Also, the legendary Morris 498 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: uh twins story is when they were at Kansas, I 499 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: guess there was a girl. UM football player was making 500 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: a move on her and she was dating one of 501 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: the Morris twins, And basically the Morris Twins decided to 502 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: try to fight the entire Kansas Jayhawks football team and 503 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: like it was happening, like it was a fight that 504 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 1: really happened, and they were just not afraid and they 505 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: were taking on multiple guys. Um. I don't know if 506 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: Morris Twins been asked about that. Maybe can you try 507 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: to get one of them on the No, I'm just kidding. 508 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: I think I've called him a goon on this pod 509 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: too many times. Uh, let's not do that. Um, But yeah, 510 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: I don't know NBA's Uh it's still early. Should we 511 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: quickly wrap up with Ben Simmons or save it for 512 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: later in the week. What do you think? Uh, it's 513 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: not trades is not gonna happen, So wherever you want 514 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: to do, it's up to you. Fox Sports Radio has 515 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 516 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox sports radio dot com and 517 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: within the I heart radio app search f s R 518 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: to listen live. You know, I like Adrian Wojanowski Win 519 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: horsed all these guys. I don't know sham, so I 520 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: can't say anything. The way the media is handling this 521 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons thing is despicable. It's basically like a mental 522 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: health issue and they're just making a mockery of it. 523 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Ben Simmons is meeting with n b 524 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: A mental health people. He won't meet with Sixers mental 525 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: health people. Well, we're gonna find him if he's not 526 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: going to And like, why are we running to the 527 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: media to tell them exactly what the hell is going 528 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: on in the NFL? We don't do that. Why are 529 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: we doing it with Ben Simmons and the Sixers? Is 530 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 1: the NBA desperate to get this out to like just 531 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: keep the league? I don't know. In the ether, it 532 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: almost feels gross. It's like, wait, really, we're gonna just 533 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: anything that happens that opposite take of of the people 534 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: in the media what you just said, because everybody's against 535 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons in the situation, because it feels like, at 536 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: least to me, that he's weaponizing mental health. I've I've 537 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: definitely heard that take and the way he came about it, 538 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: where I demand to be traded. I'm not showing up. 539 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna find me. Okay, Fine, it's a mental 540 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: health thing, like, yeah, his tact is bad, but do 541 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: you really doubt that there isn't some kind of mental 542 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: hurdle here. I think he has like the yips, the 543 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: equivalent of that, something like that. Isn't that mental though? Yeah? 544 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: But you know it's mental health just like physical health. 545 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: It's hard for people to take you seriously, say hey, 546 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: this hurts, and you're not letting a professional check you out. 547 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Lane Johnson just missed like two or 548 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: three games with the Eagles. Mental health thing. Nobody we 549 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: said ship and well, I mean he's Lane no offense, 550 00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, but he's not an all star? Okay, Calvin 551 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: rhythmic places like taking time off of the Falcons, like 552 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't know if sitting out the rest of the 553 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: season or whatever. Yeah, but I'm sure that there's not 554 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: I don't hear any reporting about any of it. Willing 555 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: to bet that he communicated with his team who he's 556 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: meeting with. Okay, so why is that team not leaking 557 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: anything about what's going on with Really the media is 558 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: not poking around, but Calvin Calvin Ridley is not demanding 559 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: a trade at the same time, so there's not already 560 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: a frostiness between him and the atlant of Falcon where 561 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: they have no reason to not believe what he's doing. Okay, 562 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: so it took that even leads me to more hatred 563 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: towards the Sixers and what they're doing. You want to 564 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: trade the guy? Want you shut the hell up and 565 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: stop leaking everything? How is helping? How is leaking every 566 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: single morsel of what Ben Simmons is going through helping 567 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: his trade value? How? How what is that doing? Just 568 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: be quiet, just stop, just don't tell them what's going on. 569 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: It's so funny Von Miller gets traded in the NFL. 570 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: Not a whiff of it anywhere leading up. Nothing we 571 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: hear about like daily Ben Simmons meetings with mental health 572 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: people and the Sixers and the NBA, like come on disgusting, 573 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: Rob on principle, I agree with you in this situation. 574 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't I think that what Ben Simmons is doing 575 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: is despicable. A lot of people feel that way, but 576 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: they already hated Ben Simmons. Well, I like Ben Simmons. 577 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560 Speaker 1: I think that he gets a bad rapper wrong in Philly. 578 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: I think that that he's become the fall guy for 579 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 1: a lot of other issues with that team. But you know, 580 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: mental health is real, you know. I know people have 581 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: tend mental health issues. I've had some, you know, relatively 582 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: minor when in the grand scheme, but Thins mental health issues, 583 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: and so it's legitimate and for you too, or for 584 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: him to, you know, use it as the Kyrie irving wall. 585 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: If you guys don't do what I want, I'm gonna 586 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: get surgery. And he's like, oh, if you guys don't 587 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: trade me, I'm you know, you can't really check me 588 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: if I'm not gonna let your doctors check me. So 589 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: you just have to believe that I'm going through something 590 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to report to the team. Hey, 591 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: by the way, how about the Nets. Let's give them 592 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: a round of A plus. I'm gonna basket six. I 593 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: haven't heard anything. I don't know what's going on with Kyrie. 594 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what the Sage burning situation is. All 595 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: I know is the last thing out of Kyrie. The 596 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: Nets aren't leaking anything was. He posted a picture of 597 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: shoot which which actor was it from the matrix? Keanu Reeves, No, 598 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: it was the other fishburn fishburn Yeah, he posted a 599 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: picture of fishburn Uh. And then of course everybody went 600 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: to google the matrix and what Fishburne's character was and 601 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You know, I'm fine with bread crumbs 602 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: like that. Ben Simmons don't play like that. He doesn't 603 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: do anything on social media. It's all for show. Um, 604 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I listen. NBA is kind of super 605 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: interesting right now, but the NFL is just bananas, so 606 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't hold a candle to it. Um, So I 607 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: let's let's put a pin in it there and we'll 608 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: get back. I don't think we're done with this because 609 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: the Ben Simmons is not going away. And by the way, 610 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: the Nets really miss Kyrie Irving. Sluggish seven and fourth start, 611 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: they don't really have much scoring outside of Katie. James 612 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 1: Harden is still not you know, it's like early season 613 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: plump James Hard. Um, It's I'm not time to panic 614 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: yet if you're the Nets. But like they got blasted 615 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: by Chicago apparently the only team that could beat the 616 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: Bulls is Um, the Sixers, and Joel Embid who is 617 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: now in COVID protocol. But yeah, now we're going too 618 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: deep into the NBA. All right, rop Uh, let's wrap 619 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: it there. Thanks for listening. We'll talk to you guys 620 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: tomorrow