Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading
Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast. The feels like the first time
Speaker 1: addition as we take an in depth look at the
Speaker 1: bengals first ever win, albeit in a game that doesn't count,
Speaker 1: under new head coach Zach Taylor. Coming up, you'll hear
Speaker 1: radio replays from the game, locker room comments from players
Speaker 1: and coaches, and Dave Lapp them will join me for
Speaker 1: postgame analysis, plus in this week's fun Facts conversation. It's
Speaker 1: one of the greatest and most popular Bengals of all time,
Speaker 1: wide receiver Chad Johnson. All of that is straight ahead,
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Speaker 1: of Thursday's game in Washington was like a three Stooges comedy.
Speaker 1: There were seven penalties called on the first seven plays.
Speaker 1: It was uglier than my ninth grade class photo, which
Speaker 1: I will not be sharing on a throwback Thursday. But
Speaker 1: it looked like the flagfest was going to help the Bengals.
Speaker 1: Two fifteen yard penalties on the man who jumps over
Speaker 1: bulls Josh Norman look it up, gave the Bengal the
Speaker 1: ball in the red zone. But it was the Red
Speaker 1: Skins that scored. From the eleven. Dalton's back to throw
Speaker 1: his pass batted at the line of scrimmage and intercepted
Speaker 1: at the five yard line. Running it back down the
Speaker 1: near sideline and headed toward the house is Monte Nicholson.
Speaker 1: He's going to score a pick six that goes ninety
Speaker 1: six yards. Wow. Dustin Hopkins missed the extra point and
Speaker 1: later missed a fifty yard field goal. At the end
Speaker 1: of the first quarter, it was six nothing Washington. After
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton was in for the first three drives, rookie
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley took over at quarterback and promptly drove the
Speaker 1: Bengals right down the field. He went eight for eight
Speaker 1: on a twelve play ninety three yard touchdown drive. Audent
Speaker 1: Tate and Drew Sample out to the left. Wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised to see the Bengals trying to get it to
Speaker 1: Auden Tate in the red zone from the five yard line.
Speaker 1: Cuddly throws for Sample, makes the catch and takes it
Speaker 1: into the end zone for his first NFL touched out.
Speaker 1: Beat Craig Reynolds a little bunch formation and the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 1: As the bunch formation unfolded, they forgot all about Sample.
Speaker 1: Drew Sample struggled in his preseason debut last week, but
Speaker 1: found the end zone in week two. You know, it
Speaker 1: was just surreal. You know, it's kind of just a
Speaker 1: you know, they called the playing a huddle, and you know,
Speaker 1: I know there was a chance that was coming to me.
Speaker 1: So you know, just ran my rout Ryan through a
Speaker 1: perfect ball and in the end zone and it was
Speaker 1: just everything you know that I hoped it would be.
Speaker 1: And then you know it was over just like that
Speaker 1: back on the sideline back in the game. So, um, no,
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was awesome. Um it was
Speaker 1: exciting to kind of get the first one. Um, but no,
Speaker 1: it was. It was really fun. We're talking to Drew Sample,
Speaker 1: a couple of tight ends we're out tonight and concussion protocol.
Speaker 1: Tyler Reifer was out there for one snap, So you
Speaker 1: were one of the tight ends that got a ton
Speaker 1: of reps tonight. In your position as a rookie trying
Speaker 1: to adjust to the NFL, is that a good thing? Definitely?
Speaker 1: You know, you know, being able to I mean play
Speaker 1: every special team's play on offense as much as they can.
Speaker 1: You know, it's definitely just you know, getting used to it,
Speaker 1: getting used to, you know, different plays, just the rhythm
Speaker 1: of the game. I think it was. I think it's
Speaker 1: definitely in viable and I was glad I was able
Speaker 1: to do it because you know, I need as many
Speaker 1: you know, reps I can get, So I think it
Speaker 1: was good. Brandy Bullocks extra point was wide right and
Speaker 1: the game was tied at six. In the second quarter,
Speaker 1: the Redskins turned to their rookie quarterback to Wayne Haskins
Speaker 1: who threw fifty touchdown passes last year at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Wayne Haskins, the fifteenth pick in the draft, waits for
Speaker 1: a shotgun snap. He has the ball looking left cos
Speaker 1: the arm throws it deep. It is caught at the
Speaker 1: Bengals fifteen yard line. It's going to be a fifty
Speaker 1: five yard touchdown to Robert Davis. He had a forty
Speaker 1: five yard touchdown catch last week against the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: He's got a fifty five yarder against the Cincinnati Bengal.
Speaker 1: Haskins long TD pass Gabe Washington a thirteen SA halftime lead,
Speaker 1: but in the second half, the Bengals sacked him three
Speaker 1: times third down and eight for the red Skins. They're
Speaker 1: at their own twenty two yard line, leading by seven.
Speaker 1: High shotgun snap caught by Hasket. He gets hit front
Speaker 1: behind by Willis. The ball rolls forward. The Bengals scoop
Speaker 1: it up As we wait to find out if it's
Speaker 1: a fumble or an incompletion. The Bengals are celebrating. Carrie
Speaker 1: Wins sprinting towards the sideline to scoop it up at
Speaker 1: the twenty five yard line. Cincinnati capitalized on the takeaway.
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley catches a shotgun, snap fires a slant, It
Speaker 1: is caught for a touchdown by Auden Tate that tied
Speaker 1: the game at thirteen. Here's Auden Tate on his touchdown.
Speaker 1: Just getting this side of defending, you know, just playing
Speaker 1: your body between him and the ball and just making
Speaker 1: a kitch, you know, like I said, just trusted a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you know, giving me the opportunity and just making it.
Speaker 1: Is that a special moment getting it in the ends
Speaker 1: on here? Oh yeah, definitely. You know I ain't scores
Speaker 1: last year, preseason, first game, so you know, it's definitely
Speaker 1: feel good to get back into. Definitely. Finley finished twenty
Speaker 1: for twenty six for one hundred and fifty yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, and a passer rating of one fifteen point nine.
Speaker 1: I felt really good. I thought, um, we just moved
Speaker 1: the ball really well on some of the drives that
Speaker 1: I got to be in there, and I thought we
Speaker 1: were really balanced, and I thought Jordan ran the ball great,
Speaker 1: and guys just made Guys just made plays. I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought Drew Sample had some awesome catches. It was
Speaker 1: fun to get him his first touchdown. And then Tate
Speaker 1: just a big body play in the ends on two,
Speaker 1: so um, it was fun. In two preseason games, Finley
Speaker 1: has completed seventy five percent of his throws, tossed three
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, and has a passer rating of one h
Speaker 1: two point four. Here's Alex ericson now. He's got a
Speaker 1: lot of poise. He's a gamer, and he's got that
Speaker 1: savvness about him. He's got that that calm, you know,
Speaker 1: collective way about him. And it showed tonight and he
Speaker 1: went out there and he commanded the huddle, he commanded
Speaker 1: the drives, and we were able to drive it down
Speaker 1: the field and score some points with him at the helm.
Speaker 1: So it's always good to see that, just especially a
Speaker 1: young guy coming in and it's hard, man, it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that. And he's done a heck
Speaker 1: of a job and it's been fun watch him grow
Speaker 1: and develop and it's you know, it's only gonna get better.
Speaker 1: With a score tide at thirteen in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: the Bengals blew a chance to take the lead when
Speaker 1: rookie kicker Tristan Viscano missed a forty six yard field
Speaker 1: goal try, but he got a chance to redeem himself
Speaker 1: the next time, the Bengals got the ball, so Tristan
Speaker 1: Biscano attempting a fifty seven yard field goal in hopes
Speaker 1: of giving the Bengals a fourth quarter lead with eight
Speaker 1: minutes in fourteen seconds to go. Kevin Huber right me
Speaker 1: on the ground, waits for the snap, stands the right hand,
Speaker 1: puts the ball down. Biscano's kick. It has the distance
Speaker 1: and it is good. Tristan Biscano from fifty seven yards
Speaker 1: away gives the Bengals a three point lead with eight
Speaker 1: minutes and nine seconds left. Did you know you would
Speaker 1: be given opportunity from that range? I hoped I would,
Speaker 1: you know, after I missed the one before. I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure if they were, you know, gonna have the confidence
Speaker 1: in me to send me back out there. But I
Speaker 1: definitely wanted the opportunity, and you know, I'm thankful that
Speaker 1: they gave me a shot and let me, let me
Speaker 1: go swinging and put it up. So, yeah, Dritan Viscaino
Speaker 1: is our guest. According to your bio, your longest in
Speaker 1: college was forty four. Was that accurate? I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe forty four somewhere around there. Yeah, what's the longest
Speaker 1: one you've made in practice and in practice here practice anywhere. Um,
Speaker 1: it's hit a seventy yard or before. But I mean
Speaker 1: one time anywhere in that range sixty to seventy hit
Speaker 1: somewhere at some point in time. Well go back to
Speaker 1: the one you missed that forty six yard or you
Speaker 1: had plenty of distance but pushed it a little bit
Speaker 1: to the right. As you come off the field after that,
Speaker 1: are you thinking, man, I just hope I get another shot. Uh? Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Um just wanted a little redemption and I was hoping
Speaker 1: that I get an opportunity and I did so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I worked out, but yeah, I just just wanted another chance.
Speaker 1: Leading sixteen thirteen, the Bengals defense forced to three and
Speaker 1: out to get the ball right back and Alex Ericsson
Speaker 1: put the game away. Here comes the punt from tress Way.
Speaker 1: He's punted a lot, very very high. Ericson will try
Speaker 1: to return from the twenty five yard line, hearing towards
Speaker 1: the near sideline. At the thirty thirty five forty to
Speaker 1: the fifty, the Redskins territory breaks it. Town goes no
Speaker 1: flags on the field as Alex Ericson goes seventy five
Speaker 1: yards for a punt return touchdown. Unbelievable. Describe what you
Speaker 1: saw after catching that ball. Well, he was booming him
Speaker 1: all night, so I knew I was gonna get a chance,
Speaker 1: and we had a good play called on and I
Speaker 1: was able to get around the corner and guys obviously
Speaker 1: set up a great wall. I was able to cut
Speaker 1: back and get to the house. You had win in
Speaker 1: your first NFL preseason game, come close since, but have
Speaker 1: not taken one to the house since. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: good feeling, I'm sure. Yeah, it just just show us
Speaker 1: all hard at us, you know, UM, just never take
Speaker 1: for granted. I guess, no matter if it's in the
Speaker 1: first quarter of week whatever, the fourth quarter of preseason
Speaker 1: game two, I guess it's all it's all the same.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be out there, you might as well
Speaker 1: give it your all and uh make a play. And
Speaker 1: we're able to do that and it end up being
Speaker 1: a big play in the game. Obviously where we're at
Speaker 1: and um, I know it's just a preseason, but we're
Speaker 1: trying to win every single game. We're trying to we're
Speaker 1: trying to build a winning culture here, and UM, the
Speaker 1: only way to do that is by winning games, So
Speaker 1: it was good to get the w tonight, and um,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's all the phases and social teams
Speaker 1: showed up big, big tonight, and um it helped us
Speaker 1: win the win the game. The final score Cincinnati twenty three,
Speaker 1: Washington thirteen. Dave Lapham spoke to Zach Taylor shortly after
Speaker 1: his first unofficial win as a head coach. Did you
Speaker 1: feel like there was stride? There was strides made from
Speaker 1: game one to game two. I know you wanted to
Speaker 1: see if guys could basically work through adjustments after week
Speaker 1: one and show those coaching adjustments in week two. Did
Speaker 1: you feel like that occurred for the most part, especially
Speaker 1: on defense. You know, they held him to seven points.
Speaker 1: It was a big third down play where they got
Speaker 1: a big play on us, but otherwise they scored on
Speaker 1: the pick six, and so I thought a defense really
Speaker 1: stepped up and it was physical and they tended to
Speaker 1: details better. Special teams did a good job, you know,
Speaker 1: I think they affected the way a game in a
Speaker 1: positive way. We just got to start faster on offense,
Speaker 1: but I was proud of the way that the unit
Speaker 1: responded in the second half. Were down, We're down seven
Speaker 1: points when we came back and shut him out and
Speaker 1: got a lot of points on the board. That's how
Speaker 1: we want to finish. Ryan Finley ten for ten to
Speaker 1: start the first nine for nine tonight before he had
Speaker 1: an incompletion. He seems to have that innate feel, you know,
Speaker 1: in the pocket, win to move and how to move,
Speaker 1: and some guys have it, some guys don't. It's just
Speaker 1: a knack, isn't it. Yeah. I think he's starting to
Speaker 1: hit his groove a little bit. You know, he feels
Speaker 1: confidence in the offense and things are slowing down for him,
Speaker 1: and he's he was playing well in the games. That's
Speaker 1: for quarterback, that supported for any position. But you know
Speaker 1: he's played with all the conference right now. That's good
Speaker 1: to see. What about Michael Jordan. I know you obviously
Speaker 1: weren't watching Michael Jordan, but he seemed to have quit
Speaker 1: himself pretty well. I mean, it doesn't seem too big
Speaker 1: for him out there, No, it doesn't. You know, he's
Speaker 1: played at a big school, playing some big games. It
Speaker 1: has not been too big for him yet. The consistencies
Speaker 1: improving from week to week, and so be in stod
Speaker 1: to watch the tape and see how those guys played
Speaker 1: as a whole true sample and Pratt both I thought,
Speaker 1: big jump from week one to week two shouldn't be surprising.
Speaker 1: You know, the first one, you're kind of getting the
Speaker 1: jitters out a little bit. You get winded very quickly
Speaker 1: because you're nervous and things are coming fast at you.
Speaker 1: So they get a chance to rebound this week, and
Speaker 1: I thought both of them stepped up from what I saw.
Speaker 1: Here are some final numbers. The Bengals out gained the
Speaker 1: Redskins three thirty five to two twelve, had nineteen first
Speaker 1: downs to only eight for Washington, and controlled the clock
Speaker 1: for thirty six and a half minutes. Time for some
Speaker 1: postgame analysis from lap and we begin with the two
Speaker 1: special teams plays in the fourth quarter that gave Cincinnati
Speaker 1: the win. Both of them are special special teams play
Speaker 1: as special teams wasn't very special last week. This week,
Speaker 1: they didn't start off well, miss some kicks as did
Speaker 1: the Redskins, but when the game was on the line,
Speaker 1: a cameo drilled one fifty seven. I mean, anytime you
Speaker 1: hit fifty seven, I don't care what level of football, preseason,
Speaker 1: regular season, postseason, high school, peewee, I mean that's that's special.
Speaker 1: Then Alex Erickson is just a gamer. I mean he
Speaker 1: makes plays and need to be made to win football games.
Speaker 1: That's that's what he's all about. I thought special teams
Speaker 1: in defense really with the big story of the night.
Speaker 1: Going into the game, Alex Rickson was going to handle
Speaker 1: some punt returns. Darius Phillips is originally set to handle
Speaker 1: the rest. Darius Phillips suffered an injury, so Alex Errickson
Speaker 1: handled them all and he did not play it safe
Speaker 1: lap He kept returning punt after punt he did. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's that's just the way. That's just the way he is.
Speaker 1: I mean, once he gets into game, those competitive juices
Speaker 1: start flowing and he wants to do everything he can
Speaker 1: to help his football team, you know, win a football game.
Speaker 1: And I think Darren Simmons is probably in a way
Speaker 1: happy because he gets to evaluate a lot of young
Speaker 1: guys in their ability to block and understand the concepts
Speaker 1: of what he's trying to do with blocking patterns on
Speaker 1: special teams. But certainly didn't want to get alex Ericson
Speaker 1: nicked up, that's for sure. Alex Rickson said he thought
Speaker 1: it was important to win. That's why he kept returning
Speaker 1: those points. He wanted to give Zach Taylor victory as
Speaker 1: an NFL head coach, and although it doesn't go in
Speaker 1: the record books, he does get a win in his
Speaker 1: second preseason game. Let's talk about the defense. They held
Speaker 1: the Redskins to eight first downs. They were strong. I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought that, you know, the defense or front even
Speaker 1: without some of the frontline players, put consistent pressure on
Speaker 1: the quarterback. I thought linebackers stepped up. I thought Pratt
Speaker 1: played a lot better than he played in the first
Speaker 1: preseason game. I thought sample, did you know offensively as well?
Speaker 1: And I thought Finley, you know, put together back to
Speaker 1: back week so you know, the rookies and they're all
Speaker 1: stepping up and showing that they belong the league. Overall, Dan,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bengals dominated the game. They had a
Speaker 1: more than thirteen minute time of possession advantage and more
Speaker 1: than twenty two snap advantage. But again, you know, there
Speaker 1: were some issues with penalties and turnovers and things of
Speaker 1: that nature that need to be cleaned up. But I
Speaker 1: thought it was a step forward from week one to
Speaker 1: week two, but still miles to go before they rest.
Speaker 1: And I just wish the officials to keep their flags
Speaker 1: in their pockets for a while. Let's follow up on
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley twenty for twenty six, one hundred and fifty yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, no picks, a passer rating of one fifteen
Speaker 1: point nine, and when you talk to his teammates, the
Speaker 1: thing that everybody starts with is his composure is calm.
Speaker 1: Typically not what you expect out of a rookie in
Speaker 1: his second preseason game. Yeah, I mean I thought we
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, during training camp, balanced between being
Speaker 1: too cool for school and being have a little sense
Speaker 1: or urgency. Let's pick the temple up. I think he's
Speaker 1: found that balance and I think that you know he is.
Speaker 1: He nothing flusters him. He doesn't get rattled. The thing
Speaker 1: I like about him too, he seems to have that
Speaker 1: sixth sense in the pocket, the eyes and the back
Speaker 1: of the head just just knows when to sidesteps, step up.
Speaker 1: I mean, some guys have a knack, some guys don't.
Speaker 1: He seems to have a knack for that. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not a stiff getting out of pocket.
Speaker 1: I mean he showed at the end of the half
Speaker 1: when he spun out and lots some more time than
Speaker 1: zig zag back across the football field, and he's got
Speaker 1: a little dipsy due to him as well. So I
Speaker 1: thought he played well. I thought Drisco played well too.
Speaker 1: I mean, Driscoll showed his speed on that thirteen yard
Speaker 1: run knife from between a couple of guys. He threw
Speaker 1: a great deep ball that didn't work out, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't because of his you know, his lack of effort.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're very fortunate. There's there's some competitions going
Speaker 1: on that are pretty stout a wide receiver position. Damian
Speaker 1: Willis had his best game out of two. He had
Speaker 1: a touchdown catch negated by offensive pass interference, and Autumn
Speaker 1: Tate got into the end zone for the first time
Speaker 1: since his very first preseason game last year. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: these these young receivers, you know, it's been talked about
Speaker 1: all training camp with AJ Green and John Ross out.
Speaker 1: All these young guys are going to get a lot
Speaker 1: of opportunity. And the thing is they're all of the
Speaker 1: mentality that they love football, they want to get better,
Speaker 1: they want to be coached, and they're improving, you know,
Speaker 1: and the wide receiver room. I know Bob mcnell in
Speaker 1: conversation with him, he loves it. He loves everybody's attitude.
Speaker 1: Everybody's pulling for each other, everybody's getting each other better,
Speaker 1: and there's going to be some decisions to be made
Speaker 1: there too. I mean, there's some good competitions going on.
Speaker 1: And then when Aj Green and John Ross come back, man,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be, you know, that much better for it.
Speaker 1: Up next, the first preseason home game coming up next
Speaker 1: Thursday night against the New York Giants. Now time for
Speaker 1: this week's fun Facts segment, and we're dipping into the
Speaker 1: archives for a conversation with one of the bengals all
Speaker 1: time best and most popular players. Back when I was
Speaker 1: a sports anchor at Fox nineteen, I hosted a segment
Speaker 1: every Sunday night during the football season called Chad's Corner
Speaker 1: with the one and only Chad Johnson. We started doing
Speaker 1: it before his career really took off and didn't pay
Speaker 1: him all that much. Once he became a superstar, his
Speaker 1: agent demanded a much higher fee that the station couldn't afford,
Speaker 1: but Chad said, nope, these guys were with me from
Speaker 1: the beginning and I'll keep doing it for the same amount.
Speaker 1: I loved watching him play and always enjoyed our conversations,
Speaker 1: including this one on the sideline of Paul Brown Stadium
Speaker 1: back in two fifteen. Time for some fun facts with
Speaker 1: an old friend. The Bengals all time leader in receptions,
Speaker 1: receiving yards, and touchdown catches number eighty five, Chad Johnson. Chad,
Speaker 1: when you came back to town, the first thing you
Speaker 1: tweeted out was it's good to be home. Do you
Speaker 1: feel that way about Cincinnati? Yeah? Most definitely, always have.
Speaker 1: You know, anytime you when they mean they welcome with
Speaker 1: open arms, and that's really all I know. Cincinnati is
Speaker 1: all I knew besides my birthplace, so I considered it home.
Speaker 1: Do you think you made Cincinnati cool at the height
Speaker 1: of your fame. I made it okay to be a fan.
Speaker 1: I made it okay to where your Bengal stuff outside
Speaker 1: of the city of Cincinnati, you know, at a time
Speaker 1: when it was really bad. You know, I would like
Speaker 1: to think I've read life back into the city. You know.
Speaker 1: I don't think I helped get us to where we
Speaker 1: are now, but I just made the game fun. I
Speaker 1: made it okay to pay your money and sit out
Speaker 1: here at one o'clock every Sunday and just make it
Speaker 1: fun again. We're doing fun facts with Chad Johnson. This
Speaker 1: is the tenth anniversary of the two thousand and five team,
Speaker 1: one of the most entertaining teams, certainly in Bengals history,
Speaker 1: if not NFL history. And that was the year of
Speaker 1: the Checklist. It was the year of the end Zone celebrations.
Speaker 1: When I say, oh, five to eighty five, what comes
Speaker 1: to mind, Fun, consistency, entertainment. I was all of those
Speaker 1: wrapped in one weekend and week out. One of the
Speaker 1: most fun things that I've ever had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: do us a broadcaster was host Chad's Corner back when
Speaker 1: I was working for Fox nineteen and you were playing
Speaker 1: with the Bengals, because I felt like I was on
Speaker 1: the ground floor just as it started to take off
Speaker 1: as your stardom started to grow. Back then, did you
Speaker 1: worry about other guys being jealous of it? No, there
Speaker 1: would be no reason too, because I was mean my
Speaker 1: personality I was. I was a loving person mode and
Speaker 1: was there to be jealous of. You know, I'm approachable.
Speaker 1: I'm one who can communicate with everybody, someone can relate
Speaker 1: to everybody to regardless of what leve are you on
Speaker 1: wherever you come from, there's really nothing to hate, and
Speaker 1: that lovable side continues to this day. You've got three
Speaker 1: point five million followers on Twitter. You typically tell all
Speaker 1: of them you love them on a daily basis. What
Speaker 1: do you get out of Twitter? It's a voice, So
Speaker 1: my own voice, my own platform, say whateverbody feel is
Speaker 1: on my mind. I said, you know, so, it's just fun.
Speaker 1: It's fun chat. I had to look it up to
Speaker 1: remember that your first two years or the Bengals were
Speaker 1: pre Marvin Lewis. I almost forgot that you were with
Speaker 1: Cleobo for two years before Marvin arrived. Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 1: Lebo was cool. Man Vow was really cool. How are
Speaker 1: you and Marvin these days? Really good? I still bother
Speaker 1: them all the time, still text him all the time.
Speaker 1: Sure he gets aggravating because when I text, I text
Speaker 1: four or five in the morning, same way I did
Speaker 1: when I was playing. Nothing change you and I relationship,
Speaker 1: Nothing change same way. After ten years and six Pro
Speaker 1: Bowls with the Bengals, you went to New England for
Speaker 1: that one season you got to the Super Bowl. Didn't
Speaker 1: have the statistics we were accustomed to seeing in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Do you look back at that year fondly. It was cool.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it, you know, being there, seeing how that
Speaker 1: that entity itself is run. You know why they're successful
Speaker 1: every year. You know, it was fun as far the production,
Speaker 1: understanding that if you think about it, the type of was,
Speaker 1: you know, an outside receiver like myself, a dominant outside receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean, his office didn't really fit me well, you know,
Speaker 1: even with it being Tom Brady as a quarterback. If
Speaker 1: you think about their offense is run from the inside out.
Speaker 1: It's for the slot guys, for the tight ends, you know,
Speaker 1: and their third option to me, if if you pay
Speaker 1: attention to that offense and really dissected, the third option
Speaker 1: is or tailback out of the backfield, then the receiver.
Speaker 1: Unless your last name is Mark Moss, which I'm not
Speaker 1: Randy Moss, you know, you're expendable. So you know, I
Speaker 1: really wasn't needed, and but I did enjoy it. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed my time there. I enjoyed Tom, I enjoyed build,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the entire organization, and I enjoyed it. Chat.
Speaker 1: A lot of people that care about you, myself included,
Speaker 1: wondered how you would be when football was over. You
Speaker 1: seem very happy, to me, Yeah, I played a long time.
Speaker 1: Not only did I play a long time, I played
Speaker 1: a long time, and I did it my way. You know.
Speaker 1: I didn't conform to the way society or the NFL
Speaker 1: gods felt I should have been. You know, it's funny
Speaker 1: that I got to this point in life and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden I supposed to change everything about myself,
Speaker 1: you know. And I always thought to myself, where were
Speaker 1: you guys when I was in high school? Where were
Speaker 1: you when I was in junior high or playing a
Speaker 1: little league, you know, And all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: get to this point. Now you're telling me how I
Speaker 1: suppol to play football because of the money. And the
Speaker 1: funny thing about it, I never played for the money,
Speaker 1: which is why I was always giving it away, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I played long and I did it my way.
Speaker 1: So there's really nothing to miss except maybe I didn't
Speaker 1: get a ring. But there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: played them to get a ring. But enough is enough.
Speaker 1: I'm at peace big time. You're getting involved in the
Speaker 1: cigar business. Now, I love cigars, but this is interesting
Speaker 1: to me because you're not putting your name on something
Speaker 1: for somebody else with money you're getting into this, You've
Speaker 1: been to the Dominican Republic. You want to do it
Speaker 1: right right. I want to those that have been the
Speaker 1: cigar game for years, those that have entities that have
Speaker 1: passed down from generation to generation. I want them to
Speaker 1: take me seriously to see the see the growth and
Speaker 1: how serious I am about making an a quality of cigar.
Speaker 1: And that was the whole point of me going to
Speaker 1: the dr and learning how cigars are made instead of
Speaker 1: me just buying the finished product, which I've always done
Speaker 1: all these years. So now that I got my understanding together,
Speaker 1: I did my homework. I'm coming out with my own line,
Speaker 1: eighty five cigars. Eighty five cigars. You and my nine
Speaker 1: year old son Sam have something income and you are
Speaker 1: both obsessed with FIFA on EA Sports, and you've actually
Speaker 1: been showing up at people's houses randomly to take them on. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've been doing that for a while for a couple
Speaker 1: of years now now that I've been free, it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's fun. It's fun beating someone in their house and
Speaker 1: also rating their refrigerator. But just the fact that being
Speaker 1: able to do to walk in someone's house, go in
Speaker 1: their refrigerator and beat them at their game that they
Speaker 1: felt they were good out crisis. It's really good to
Speaker 1: see you. Thanks for the memories always. I hope you
Speaker 1: feel welcome when you come back to Cincinnati. Oh ways,
Speaker 1: oh ways, du man, it's been love man everywhere I
Speaker 1: win like love, like literally the jersey. They're still fan
Speaker 1: the jersey Like that's dope. That's really dope. If you
Speaker 1: like cigars, you should check out eighty five cigars dot
Speaker 1: com and or follow eighty five Cigars on Twitter. Last
Speaker 1: week they gave out some free tickets to the Bengals
Speaker 1: Redskins game, so you never know what you might be
Speaker 1: able to win. That's going to do it for this
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