WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Blacula

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and I am Joe McCormick. And

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<v Speaker 3>today on Weird House Cinema, we are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>talking about the nineteen seventy two tragic romantic horror film Blackula.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, so this is in a sense another Dracula movie.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll get into that in a bit, and I'm generally

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<v Speaker 2>down for any Dracula film. We've covered various Dracula movies

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<v Speaker 2>already on Weird House Cinema. Most recently we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy two's Dracula Ad nineteen seventy two, in which

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<v Speaker 2>the Count awakens in contemporary London. Today's movie is also

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<v Speaker 2>a nineteen seventy two release, and it also centers around

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<v Speaker 2>a vampire prints awakening in the contemporary world, only this

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<v Speaker 2>time it's Los Angeles?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it Los Angeles? I kept thinking that the exterior

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<v Speaker 3>shots looked like LA But then I would see, like

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<v Speaker 3>there was a scene at the police station where in

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<v Speaker 3>the background, I'm pretty sure they had a map of

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<v Speaker 3>Staten Island on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't notice that. I believe the movie when

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<v Speaker 2>it told me it was Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 3>Well wait, did the movie even say it was LA

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, our character, doctor Thomas, supposedly works for the Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles Police Department.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, then, oh, maybe he's just like a Staten

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<v Speaker 3>Island map hobbyist. That's myself there. I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know what. So this movie had been on my

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<v Speaker 3>radar for many years, but I hadn't seen it until

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<v Speaker 3>you picked it for the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob.

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I really liked it, But second, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a very different movie than I imagined. I think because

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<v Speaker 3>the title is a pun, and because I understood it

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<v Speaker 3>to be part of the black exploitation wave. I had

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<v Speaker 3>always expected it would be more of a satirical horror comedy,

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<v Speaker 3>that it would be sort of a satirical take on

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<v Speaker 3>American culture from a black perspective, using some using like

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<v Speaker 3>vampire themes to get across some of its like comedic observations.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's really not a comedy at all. Instead, it

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<v Speaker 3>is a I think, very serious and very effective, tragic

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<v Speaker 3>romantic horror film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, and it's interesting and we'll be discussing this

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<v Speaker 2>a bit like the degree to which that transformation seems

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<v Speaker 2>to have taken place, because I think the studio initially

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<v Speaker 2>envisioned something that was more of a comedy and was

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<v Speaker 2>more of more satire and was just about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>given the audience a good time. But this was transformed

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<v Speaker 2>by at least two of the key individuals involved, if

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<v Speaker 2>not more.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, I have to say the comparison to Dracula nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy two AD is hilarious because multiple things. So, first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, I think Blacula is a much better film

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<v Speaker 3>than that. But the other thing is that we kept

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<v Speaker 3>joking in that episode that Dracula in nineteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 3>a D did not really put Dracula in nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 3>two a D. He was almost like he just hangs

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<v Speaker 3>out in an abandoned church the whole time, and then

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<v Speaker 3>victims are brought to him, so he never encounters modern

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<v Speaker 3>culture or anything like that. And we talked about the

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<v Speaker 3>potential for realizing, you know, Dracula as a sort of

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<v Speaker 3>fish out of time character who's running into all of

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<v Speaker 3>the texture of the modern world and having friction when

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<v Speaker 3>interacting with it. You could expect that Blacula could be

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<v Speaker 3>like that as well, but really there is not much

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<v Speaker 3>fish out of time about it at all. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>by the time our vampire hero arrives in nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like the coolest person in nineteen seventy two. He's

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<v Speaker 3>like more at ease and at home than anybody who

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<v Speaker 3>just normally lives their life here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely so. Yeah, Black Ela is a very well

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<v Speaker 2>known film in the history of horror and vampire movies,

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<v Speaker 2>and certainly has has its place in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>black cinema. So like yourself, Yeah, I've been familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>it for a long time, but I'd never taken the

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<v Speaker 2>time to actually sit down and watch it. And and

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<v Speaker 2>part of, you know, part of that was, like I

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<v Speaker 2>assumed it was more of a comedy, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure how it might have aged, how it was received,

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<v Speaker 2>and what its legacy was, because you know, not everything

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<v Speaker 2>that is often categorized under the broad label of black

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<v Speaker 2>exploitation is worth a revisit. But I just kept seeing

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<v Speaker 2>more film creators, more artists, more historians, especially artists and

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<v Speaker 2>historians of color, singling it out for its strengths. One

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<v Speaker 2>such artist is Rodney Barnes, an American screenwriter and producer,

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<v Speaker 2>whose writing credits include Everybody Hates Chris, The Boondocks, and

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<v Speaker 2>also the TV series Winning Time on HBO. He was

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<v Speaker 2>also apparently and he has an additional crew credit. I'm blade.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what he did on that, but still

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<v Speaker 2>in nice vampire connection. But I picked up his twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three graphic novel Blackula, Rich Turn of the King,

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<v Speaker 2>illustrated by Jason Seawan Alexander, and it's really fun. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a modern sequel to the film Blackula, reawakening our central

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<v Speaker 2>Prince character once more in contemporary Los Angeles and on

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<v Speaker 2>a collision course, this time with his vampiric maker. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really again, really good, really fun, and it includes an

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<v Speaker 2>extended intro in which Barnes describes being a horror fan

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid and being at the time mostly dependent

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<v Speaker 2>on a diet of hammer horror films which featured predominantly

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<v Speaker 2>white casts and never a black vampire. So he mentions

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<v Speaker 2>like seeing the ads for the first time. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he says that he saw them during the commercial breaks

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<v Speaker 2>for a Soul Train and he was instantly excited as

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<v Speaker 2>a child. He was like, you know this, this is

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<v Speaker 2>something different, This is here here is a case where

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<v Speaker 2>I get to see like a black vampire character in

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<v Speaker 2>a film. So Blacula, the movie called to him ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>helped inspire him to become a creator himself. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he acknowledges that the film has its flaws, but that

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<v Speaker 2>its power was undeniable. Now, I want to throw into

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<v Speaker 2>one quick note about the language of the film. While

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<v Speaker 2>the film is rated PG and doesn't really contain anything

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<v Speaker 2>objectionable in terms of gore or sexuality, we should stress

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<v Speaker 2>that a homophobic slur is used at least a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times, one instance by a key protagonist, and once

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<v Speaker 2>in a really unnecessary and hurtful way. It certainly ding's

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyment of the film, especially since there's so many captivating

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<v Speaker 2>elements of the picture otherwise, so I wanted to single

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<v Speaker 2>that out. I was reading a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 2>this in The Dracula and the Blacula nineteen seventy two

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<v Speaker 2>Cultural Revolution by Lemon and Browning. This was published in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine s Dracula's Vampires and Other Undead

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<v Speaker 2>Forms Essays on gender, race, and Culture. And this article

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<v Speaker 2>makes a case that you know, we also see efforts

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<v Speaker 2>in the movie at challenging homosexual stereotype, just as the

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<v Speaker 2>film challenges stereotypes of black and African characters. Though the

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<v Speaker 2>authors here acknowledge that the film fumbles in this and

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately quote encourage stereotypes and bigotries concerning homosexuality more than

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<v Speaker 2>they challenged them. So I just wanted to throw that

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<v Speaker 2>out there in case anyone was looking to pause the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast go watch the film. I think it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>good heads up to have. All Right, well, at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go ahead and have a little trailer audio. The

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<v Speaker 2>actual trailer for the film is a bit long, but

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<v Speaker 2>we were able to dig up the radio spot here.

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<v Speaker 2>I love a good radio spot, so let's listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the original radio spot for Blackma.

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<v Speaker 1>You shall.

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<v Speaker 3>Black Prince, I press' wait my name?

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<v Speaker 4>You shall be black Tula, the Black Avenger, rising from

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<v Speaker 4>this tool to fill the night with horror. Black Cula

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<v Speaker 4>Dracula soul brother, deadlier even than he Blacula the First

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<v Speaker 4>for your blood. He hung less for your soul, more

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<v Speaker 4>horrifying than Draccula, the Black Avenge. Black Cula an American

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<v Speaker 4>International release rated PG. Parental guidance suggested.

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<v Speaker 2>Now of note you that voice you heard at the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the voice of Count Dracula, as we'll discuss.

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm. You know that raises another way in which this

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<v Speaker 3>movie I think is different than what some people might

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<v Speaker 3>assume going into it, which you might assume of the

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<v Speaker 3>premise is what if Count Dracula were black, but instead

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<v Speaker 3>our black vampire prints in the movie is very much

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<v Speaker 3>set in opposition to Count Dracula. Like Count Dracula is

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<v Speaker 3>still the villain.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, absolutely, a complete and utter villain, but then

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<v Speaker 2>also one that will not factor into the film directly

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<v Speaker 2>after after just a few minutes into the film.

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<v Speaker 3>Really yeah, he disappears after like three or four minutes in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All right, Well, if you're intrigued, if you're interested

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<v Speaker 2>in watching this one on your own before proceeding with

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the episode, it's pretty widely available. We

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<v Speaker 2>watched it on the twenty twenty three Blu ray from

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<v Speaker 2>Sandpiper Pictures. It's bare bones, doesn't really have anything in

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<v Speaker 2>the way of extras, but the quality is great. We

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<v Speaker 2>rented it from Video Drum here in Atlanta, though I

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<v Speaker 2>believe it's also streaming on Prime and other sources, So again,

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<v Speaker 2>you shouldn't have any problem getting a hold of this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Let's get into the people who made this film,

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<v Speaker 2>starting at the top with the director. William Crane born

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty nine, American director in UCLA Film School graduate,

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<v Speaker 2>best remembered for this film and thus his contributions to

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<v Speaker 2>black cinema of the seventies and more broadly, the horror

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<v Speaker 2>genre itself. Prior to Blackula, he'd worked in TV. He

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<v Speaker 2>directed a nineteen seventy one episode of Mod Squad, though

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<v Speaker 2>he apparently worked as an uncredited intern director on the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies Sydney Quaidier movie Brother John, which also features

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Winfield. But anyway, After Blacula, he continued to direct

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<v Speaker 2>episodes of such TV series as Startsky and hutch Swatt

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<v Speaker 2>and The Rookies, before returning to the world of black

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<v Speaker 2>centric horror films with nineteen seventy six is Doctor Black

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Hyde, starring Bernie Casey in the lead roles.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'd be interested to see that one too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I saw a bit from an interview with

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<v Speaker 2>him where he said he had more freedom in that one,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm interested to read more about it, see how

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<v Speaker 2>it was received, and potentially watch it now. Afterwards, he

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<v Speaker 2>directed episodes of The Dukes of Hazzard, Matt Houston, and

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<v Speaker 2>Designing Women. There are a lot of interviews with him

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<v Speaker 2>out there. I ran across one from a This is

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty twenty one interview on WBBM News radio with

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Ramsey. He says, AIP, that's American International Pictures. They

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<v Speaker 2>were doing exploitive movies. The rumor was they were in

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<v Speaker 2>the red and so they were going to do a

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<v Speaker 2>black vampire movie. I happened to be in the right

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<v Speaker 2>place at the right time. The original concept was Count

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<v Speaker 2>Brown's in Town. It was this Shuckin' and jivin and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to do it, but they hired me

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<v Speaker 2>to do this movie. William Marshall said, let's just make

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<v Speaker 2>this straight.

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<v Speaker 3>So William Marshall is the actor who plays Memo Walde,

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<v Speaker 3>the main vampire in the movie. And yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 3>in line with what I've read that he was a

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<v Speaker 3>big force in reimagining the movie as a more serious,

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<v Speaker 3>dramatic project.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. According to Lemonon Browning in that article, I decided

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<v Speaker 2>when he came on board to star in the picture,

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<v Speaker 2>he insisted on certain changes to Mama Walde's character and

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<v Speaker 2>wrote or rewrote key scenes concerning memal Walde's eighteenth century

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<v Speaker 2>mission to Europe, as well his connection to his wife Luva,

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<v Speaker 2>So he seems to have been heavily involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>choices that made this film notable.

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<v Speaker 3>But by emphasizing the tragic romance at the core of it,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to undersell the horror elements of this

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<v Speaker 3>film now, because to come back to Crane's approach to

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<v Speaker 3>it as a horror film, I think the scary scenes,

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<v Speaker 3>though it's not wall to wall scares, the scary scenes

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<v Speaker 3>are quite effective. There are some extremely creepy shots in

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<v Speaker 3>this movie, like it does a thing a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>times where a character like a monster, a vampire character

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<v Speaker 3>is just directly approaching the camera, so the camera is

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<v Speaker 3>at a fixed position and the vampire is just gliding

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<v Speaker 3>straight into your face. And I don't know, that's not

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of shot that I think of is very

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<v Speaker 3>common in horror films. But even though it seems like

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<v Speaker 3>it would be, I don't know why it's not, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's very effective here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, you can imagine these scenes really sizzling on

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<v Speaker 2>the big screen in front of a pack house and

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<v Speaker 2>it's worth noting that this film was quite a success

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<v Speaker 2>so and certainly played an important part in sort of

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<v Speaker 2>paving the way for additional black horror films that came

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<v Speaker 2>out afterwards. Though we should also note this was not

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<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes this is described as the quote first

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<v Speaker 2>black horror film, which is not the case. There were

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<v Speaker 2>earlier examples of this. The credited writers on this are

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<v Speaker 2>Joan Torres and Raymond Koenig. I don't have dates for them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think dates are available, though I believe Joan

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<v Speaker 2>Torres at least is still still around. This and the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy three sequel Scream Blackula Scream are their only credits.

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<v Speaker 2>Joan Torres has a website, Joan Torres dot com, which

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<v Speaker 2>details her additional work as a playwright and a novelist.

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<v Speaker 2>Given the subject matter of the film, it's notable that

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<v Speaker 2>neither of the credited writers was themselves black, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>the film's black director and black lead evidently further crafted

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<v Speaker 2>the screenplay in this more serious direction.

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<v Speaker 3>Just wanted to note you mentioned the sequel screen Blacula Screen,

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<v Speaker 3>which does also have William Marshall in it. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know anything about the reputation of that movie, but I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to note it does have Pam Greer in it,

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<v Speaker 3>so that's the reason to watch true.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, let's come back to William Marshall again.

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<v Speaker 2>This is our star who plays Prince Mama Walde, the Vampire.

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<v Speaker 2>William Marshall lived nineteen twenty four through two thousand and three. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the star of this picture and just an irrefutable central

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<v Speaker 2>force in the making of the film. What it making

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<v Speaker 2>the film? What it is bringing dignity, power and complexity

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<v Speaker 2>to a character that otherwise could have unlikely would have

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<v Speaker 2>been a much more shallow exercise in vampire horror. Marshall

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<v Speaker 2>was an American actor, director, and opera singer with impressive

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<v Speaker 2>credits across stage, screen and TV. He studied at the

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<v Speaker 2>Actor's Studio in New York and was I believe had

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<v Speaker 2>some opera training. I'm not as informed about his his

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<v Speaker 2>career regarding opera, but he performed on Broadway in the

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<v Speaker 2>late forties and early fifties, and he played the title

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<v Speaker 2>role in Othello in both the US and Europe. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a nineteen eighty one production of A Fellow with him

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<v Speaker 2>in the lead role that was filmed and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>is available.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not surprised to hear that he was an opera

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<v Speaker 3>singer because he has an absolutely magnificent voice, just a

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful bass, like a I'm trying to think, what's the metaphor,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a ship sailing through smooth water. Is It's

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<v Speaker 3>just like an amazing voice. It is the kind of

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<v Speaker 3>voice that every time he speaks, people just turn and listen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's captivating. So his TV credits, he has a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of TV credits, include a second season episode of

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<v Speaker 2>the original Star Trek. This one was titled The Ultimate Computer,

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<v Speaker 2>in which he played a brilliant human computer scientist. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he may also be a familiar face from his

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<v Speaker 2>later years for some of you, because he played the

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<v Speaker 2>King of Cartoons on Pee Wee's Playhouse. According to his

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<v Speaker 2>New Times obit. In nineteen eighty three, he appeared in

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<v Speaker 2>a one hour one man show for PBS called Frederick Douglas,

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<v Speaker 2>Slave and Statesman, and he adapted this for the theater

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<v Speaker 2>as inter Frederick Douglass, which he performed for many years.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, he has a whole bunch of credits. I

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<v Speaker 2>did note that on the old nineteen eighty Spider Man cartoon.

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<v Speaker 2>He voiced both the Juggernaut and Tony Stark, whoa in cinema.

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<v Speaker 2>His other credits include nineteen fifty four's Demetrius and the Gladiators,

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventy three sequel Screen Blackulas Scream of Course,

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen seventy four zombie movie Abby, seventy seven's Twilight's

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<v Speaker 2>Last Gleaming, and nineteen ninety four's Maverick. So again, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he's absolutely commanding in this role. You can see how

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<v Speaker 2>he was such a powerful force on the trajectory of

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<v Speaker 2>this film as well, first of all in pushing for

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<v Speaker 2>these changes, and secondly, according to Crane in that interview,

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at in being able to deliver on

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<v Speaker 2>those changes in such a way that as the dailies

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<v Speaker 2>or the raw footage was rolling in from the filming

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<v Speaker 2>the studio like, they just fall it suit. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>fight it because they saw that it was absolutely working,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. So moving on to the rest of the cast,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a dual role here of Tina and Luva,

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<v Speaker 2>which we'll get into what that means here in a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But these characters are played by Vanetta McGee who lived

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty five through twenty ten American actress who had

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<v Speaker 2>been in several films prior to this, including the Italian

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<v Speaker 2>western The Great Silence. Her subsequent films included nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 2>three's Shaft in Africa and Detroit nine thousand. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy five, she was in The Eiger Sanction opposite Clint Eastwood.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe that was She's like second build on that.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in nineteen eighty four's Repo Man in nineteen nineties

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<v Speaker 2>to Sleep with Anger all Right, now playing Tina's sister

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy two. The sister's name is Michelle, played

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<v Speaker 2>by Denise Nicholas born nineteen forty four, American actress with

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<v Speaker 2>extensive television credits, including an episode of Night Gallery Love

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<v Speaker 2>American Style, Different Strokes, The Love Boat, and sixty nine

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<v Speaker 2>episodes of In the Heat of the Night. Her film

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<v Speaker 2>credits include seventy seven's Capricorn One, nineteen nineties Ghost Dad,

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<v Speaker 2>in two thousand's Ritual. She won a nineteen seventy six

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<v Speaker 2>NAACP Image Award for her role in Let's Do It Again.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like a big part of Michelle's role in

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<v Speaker 3>the plot is we have to have somebody who is

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<v Speaker 3>skeptical of the vampire stuff, because Tina ultimately is going

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<v Speaker 3>to become wooed by the power of Memo wall Day,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know she ultimately is like, Yeah, Okay, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be a vampire because I love you. The character we're

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<v Speaker 3>about to talk about, doctor Gordon Thomas. He's pretty much

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<v Speaker 3>from the beginning is like, I think a vampire could

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<v Speaker 3>be responsible for these killings. So Michelle is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be the one who's like, I don't believe this, and

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<v Speaker 3>I do not want to go dig up a grave tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. So let's get to doctor Gordon Thomas

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<v Speaker 2>because he's essentially the Van Helsing character of the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the investigator, the human hero.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he is played by Thalmus Rassulula. He lived

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty nine through nineteen ninety one American actor with

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<v Speaker 2>extensive TV credits going back to nineteen sixty including Perry Mason,

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<v Speaker 2>The Original Twilight Zone, All in the Family, Mission Impossible,

0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Sanford and Son, The Jefferson's Kojak, The Incredible Hulk. He

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<v Speaker 2>also shows up in an episode of Star Trek the

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<v Speaker 2>Next Generation, playing the character Captain Donald Varley. Also notable.

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<v Speaker 2>He pops up on a nineteen seventy five episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday Night Live, specifically in a skit titled Exorcist two

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<v Speaker 2>in which he plays Father Marrin.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that the implied comedy of this skit is

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<v Speaker 3>how ridiculous it would be to make a sequel to

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<v Speaker 3>the X, Or says, But then just a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years later, they literally did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Of Note that episode of Saturday Night Live was

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<v Speaker 2>hosted by Richard Pryor, you know, the great stand up comedian,

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<v Speaker 2>and the musical guest was a legendary Gil Scott Heron. Reportedly,

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<v Speaker 2>Pryor only agreed to host the show if both of

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<v Speaker 2>these men were involved, so they were like handpicked. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it. You got to bring in Gil Scott Heron,

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<v Speaker 2>and you got to bring in Thalmus to be in

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<v Speaker 2>this skit with me.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really effective in this movie, and he has a

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<v Speaker 3>sort of thankless role to play because William Marshall's character

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<v Speaker 3>gets to be the vampire, gets to be the tragic

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<v Speaker 3>prince and at the center of this tragic love story,

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<v Speaker 3>whereas Gordon Thomas Thomas Roussoula's character has to be hunting

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<v Speaker 3>him down and doing so in a like. The character

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<v Speaker 3>is written as an irascible and business oriented man. Like

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<v Speaker 3>he's not fun, and yet it is fun watching the

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<v Speaker 3>character do what he does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's a really solid performance. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like here grumpy, uh but smooth Van Helson character. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, this is a minor character. But I also

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<v Speaker 2>want to call out that Jaitu Kombuka is in this

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<v Speaker 2>playing the character Skillet. Skillett is a bit comic relief

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<v Speaker 2>character who really likes Memowalde's cape. Yes, but it's a

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<v Speaker 2>memorable brief bart. He lived nineteen forty through twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a main cast member on the spy series

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<v Speaker 2>A Man called Sloan with Robert Conrad and Dan o'hurlhay.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in Roots He's. His other credits include Doctor Black,

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Hyde, nineteen seventy one's Brian Song, seventy six is

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Bound for Glory eighty five Brewsters Millions in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>nine's Harlem Knights.

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<v Speaker 3>This character appears multiple times to admire Memo Walde's cape

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<v Speaker 3>and to comment that he is one strange dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's his sole purpose here, all right, We mentioned

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<v Speaker 2>that Dracula is in this movie, and we'll discuss the

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<v Speaker 2>way Dracula is envisioned in this film here in a

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<v Speaker 2>bit in more detail. But Dracula here is played by

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<v Speaker 2>Charles McCauley, who lived nineteen twenty seven through nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>nine an American actor of stage, screen, and TV, whose

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<v Speaker 2>earliest film role is an uncredited part in Roger Corman's

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<v Speaker 2>horror comedy Creature from the Haunted Sea nineteen sixty one.

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<v Speaker 2>We haven't watched this one on Weird House, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>often considered part of a trilogy of horror comedies that

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<v Speaker 2>Corman did, along with Bucket of Blood and The Little

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<v Speaker 2>Shop of Horrors. McCauley also worked with Corman, credited, this

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<v Speaker 2>time in nineteen sixty two's Tower of London. His filmography

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<v Speaker 2>features a great deal of mainstream TV work, along with

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<v Speaker 2>various entries in the horror genre. On TV, he appeared

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<v Speaker 2>on two episodes of The original Star Trek, thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>episodes of Days of Our Lives, He was on Mission Impossible, Night,

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<v Speaker 2>Gallery Colombo, and much more. In film, his credits include

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight's Head, seventy two's Twilight People, seventy four's House

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<v Speaker 2>of Seven Corpses seventy five is the Hindenburg Airport seventy seven,

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<v Speaker 2>and he played the President of the United States in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighty four Mermaid comedy Splash, which is I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen Splash in a while. Watched it a lot

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<v Speaker 2>as a kid, but now I'm just imagining like President Dracula.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh huh, I've never seen it, but now there's a

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<v Speaker 3>treat waiting for me if I ever get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I remember it as being fun. More on

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<v Speaker 2>Dracula in a bit, but it is. It's a very

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<v Speaker 2>memorable Count Dracula. Yeah. This is just an aside, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess mostly for people who are big into like the

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<v Speaker 2>history of stunt work and or grappling and so forth

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<v Speaker 2>and pro wrestling. But one of Dracula's henchmen is played

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<v Speaker 2>by Jean LaBelle, who lived nineteen thirty two through twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two. Noted grappler, judo practitioner, pro wrestler, stunt man.

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<v Speaker 2>He pops up in a lot of things, often in

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<v Speaker 2>just like really small roles.

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<v Speaker 3>It is funny in this movie that Dracula just has

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<v Speaker 3>wrestlers working for him, Like he calls out his wrestlers

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<v Speaker 3>and they've got the you know, the Lacey cravats on,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're just like these beefy guys.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Get a few credits from behind the scenes here.

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<v Speaker 2>Sandy DeVore is the title designer on this film who

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<v Speaker 2>lived nineteen thirty four through twenty twenty American artist, graphic designer,

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<v Speaker 2>and title designer who worked with some big recording artists

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, including Sammy Davis Junior, and went on

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<v Speaker 2>to create title sequences for such TV shows as The

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<v Speaker 2>Partridge Family. We've actually seen some of Sandy Devorre's work

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<v Speaker 2>on Weird House Cinema before, because he did the excellent

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<v Speaker 2>title sequence for The Dunwich Horror, which had a very

0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:37.479
<v Speaker 2>similar style, only instead of like red, black and white,

0:24:37.640 --> 0:24:39.119
<v Speaker 2>it was like blue and black.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I really like the title design in this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sort of a like an animated bat chasing a

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<v Speaker 3>red outline of a woman around in this abstract landscape

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<v Speaker 3>that almost looks like you've zoomed in a lot on calligraphy,

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<v Speaker 3>and the figures are trying to navigate in the spaces

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<v Speaker 3>between the bars of the letters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, it's really cool and it's like a nice

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<v Speaker 2>I like how it breaks up the film too, because

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<v Speaker 2>we have a very heavy opening and then we get

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:11.119
<v Speaker 2>this fun title sequence before Trent's pourting to the modern

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<v Speaker 2>day of nineteen seventy two. And I'll also add that

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<v Speaker 2>there's an excellent website called artofthetitle dot com and they

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<v Speaker 2>have multiple examples of Divorre's work, including the intros to

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<v Speaker 2>Blackula and the intro to The Dunwich Horror. He also

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<v Speaker 2>did one on a nineteen sixty nine film called Desad.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a Roger Corman film starring Keer Dooley as

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<v Speaker 2>the Marquis de Sade. Also has John Houston in it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also like similar style and also very amusing

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<v Speaker 2>to watch. The composer on this film on Blackula is

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<v Speaker 2>Gene Page, who lived nineteen thirty nine through nineteen ninety

0:25:48.440 --> 0:25:52.800
<v Speaker 2>eight American composer and record producer. He also did arrangements

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.920
<v Speaker 2>on tracks for some of the biggest musical acts of

0:25:56.080 --> 0:26:00.560
<v Speaker 2>the time period. He has something like ten one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty five writing and arrangement credits on discogs what

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<v Speaker 2>including Yeah, it's like this man works a lot working

0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:08.800
<v Speaker 2>with artists. I can't even list them all, but just

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:13.240
<v Speaker 2>as a brief overview, people like Barry White, James Taylor,

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Michael Jackson cher that it seems to be the main

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<v Speaker 2>main work that he did. This is his most well

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 2>known film score out of only a handful of score

0:26:25.320 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 2>composition credits.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the music in Blackula, and it works I

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 3>think on every level. Like there's some just non diegetic

0:26:33.680 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 3>background music that you know, it brings the right horror ambiance,

0:26:39.040 --> 0:26:41.920
<v Speaker 3>but then there is also plenty of funk in the movie,

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 3>and then even some diegetic on screen band performances that

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 3>are fantastic as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we're going to discuss them in just a second,

0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:55.679
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I all agree. Absolutely wonderful score. It's funky

0:26:55.720 --> 0:26:59.040
<v Speaker 2>and soulful, blazingly upbeat in places, but it also does

0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:01.240
<v Speaker 2>get into that what I like to think of is

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:05.159
<v Speaker 2>like the horror jazz night gallery zone as well, tweaked

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.600
<v Speaker 2>with some synth weirdness in places, really drives on the

0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>creepy moments. Now, the musical performances that you mentioned these

0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:17.000
<v Speaker 2>are performances by the Hughes Corporation. They were a pop

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 2>and soul trio best known for a hit that would

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<v Speaker 2>come out a couple of years later in nineteen seventy

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 2>four Rock the Boat. I mean, I don't even have

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:27.760
<v Speaker 2>to hum it. You all know it. You've all heard

0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Rock the Boat. At the time of Blackula, they consisted

0:27:31.720 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>of Saint Clair Lee who lived nineteen forty four through

0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:39.959
<v Speaker 2>twenty eleven. This is the vocalist with the headband. H M.

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:44.240
<v Speaker 2>Kelly born nineteen forty seven, and Carl Russell. I believe

0:27:44.320 --> 0:27:48.520
<v Speaker 2>he left the group after the movie, but also maybe

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<v Speaker 2>returned later during a time period when they got back

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<v Speaker 2>together again. I'm a little foggy on how all that works,

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>but they are a lot of fun in their performances

0:27:58.280 --> 0:27:59.160
<v Speaker 2>in Blackula.

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<v Speaker 3>They get at least two on screen musical performances in

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<v Speaker 3>the film, or are there even more?

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.920
<v Speaker 2>They have at least three tracks on the soundtrack. There's

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<v Speaker 2>There He Is Again, which we'll talk about, Oh yeah, wonderful,

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 2>There's What the World Knows, which is a more soulful,

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 2>romantic number, and then I'm Gonna Catch You, which is

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.000
<v Speaker 2>also a really fun song. It's like a cheating heart song,

0:28:22.240 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's really good.

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 3>There He Is Again is my favorite because it's it

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 3>can The lyrics can be read as a song about

0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 3>a vampire.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, Like it feels if you're not analyzing the

0:28:33.000 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 2>lyrics too closely, like yeah, yeah, of course it's about

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Mama Waldi, it's about this vampire. I also note there

0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 2>are two tracks on the soundtrack by the twenty first

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 2>Century LTD. This is or I guess I would say

0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:52.360
<v Speaker 2>the twenty first Century limited heavy changes and main chance.

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 2>These are both romantic numbers, and I honestly can't remember

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.840
<v Speaker 2>how they're integrated into the film, or you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>what extent they are.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you ready to talk about the plot, let's do it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we open on the exterior of a castle on

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 3>a darkened, stormy night. Rain pours down, battering the castle towers,

0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 3>and bolts of lightning cut through the darkness, and a

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 3>chiron text on the screen says Transylvania seventeen eighty Castle Dracula.

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 3>So we cut inside the castle to an ornate dining

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 3>room illuminated by candles and a roaring fireplace, and Count

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Dracula is here and he is hosting a pair of

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>guests after what seems to have been some kind of

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 3>international diplomatic function meeting with dignitaries. Now, this Count Dracula

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:51.640
<v Speaker 3>is not exactly of the Bela Lugosi variety. He has

0:29:51.680 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 3>like longer hairs, kind of grayish brown in color, and

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 3>a goatee. He's wearing a black and gold coat over

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:01.960
<v Speaker 3>a blue vest with a frilly white cravat, and he

0:30:02.080 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>is immediately unlikable, smarmy, palpably untrustworthy, and we will soon

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 3>come to realize racist. He's at first kind of superficially

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 3>friendly to his two guests, and the guests are Prince

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Mamuwalde and his wife, Princess Luva, who are royalty from

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 3>what is initially an unnamed African country, but we will

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.240
<v Speaker 3>later learn that they are from the Ibani nation in

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 3>the northeast of the Niger Delta. Memo Walde is dressed

0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:35.440
<v Speaker 3>in a dark suit with a powder blue cravat, and

0:30:35.520 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Luva is wearing a beautiful, elaborate multicolored dress with beadwork jewelry.

0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 3>So they've just seemingly finished a meeting with an array

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 3>of diplomats and heads of state from around the world,

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>and Dracula is pouring cognac all around. Memoalde and Luva

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 3>explain to Count Dracula that they're here for a reason.

0:30:55.600 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 3>They are on a mission to gain international allies in

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 3>support of what seems to be a treaty, a treaty

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:07.719
<v Speaker 3>to do what Well, Luva pulls out a text, a

0:31:07.760 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 3>document to present to Count Dracula, and he reviews it,

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 3>and then he recoils from the document in disbelief. Apparently

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.480
<v Speaker 3>this treaty that they're pursuing would bring about the cessation

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 3>of the international slave trade. Dracula doesn't like this idea.

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:27.160
<v Speaker 3>He counters that he says, surely slavery has merit, and

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 3>Memoilde raises an eyebrow. He asks how one would find

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.560
<v Speaker 3>merit in barbarity, But Dracula says, well, slavery may be

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.000
<v Speaker 3>barbaric from the point of view of the slave, but

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 3>it holds lots of appeal to the slave owner. And

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:44.520
<v Speaker 3>then he transitions to making revolting comments with sexual overtones

0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 3>about how it would in fact be appealing to him

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:48.479
<v Speaker 3>to own Luva.

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the overt racism of Dracula is quite fascinating here.

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I think the film delivers the vibe in a way

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.400
<v Speaker 2>that a mere summary doesn't really capture. But Yeah, this

0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Dracula is, in many respects presented, is almost a kind

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>of He's almost the institution of slavery incarnate. You know,

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>it's all done in a few short scenes here, but

0:32:11.800 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, he dismisses objections to the practice on economic

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 2>and sort of this is the world grounds, but quickly

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 2>slides into it increasingly overtly racist rhetoric before directly provoking

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Mammal Waldy by offering in cruel jess to buy his wife.

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>And this then quickly transcends into physical assault, separation, murder,

0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.760
<v Speaker 2>and a curse that transcends human lifetimes. And we also

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>see his aristocratic mass completely slip from again from this

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:44.959
<v Speaker 2>like snide aristocrat to just absolute evil, cruelty and hunger.

0:32:45.560 --> 0:32:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So at the beginning of the exchange, Dracula is

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 3>condescending and smarmy, but it's it's interesting to see how

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 3>it just flips to overt hostility as soon as he

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 3>is faced with something he disagrees with. So, of course

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 3>Mamiwalde won't tolerate this shocking behavior from Dracula, but he

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 3>keeps his composure. He rises from his seat and he

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 3>gathers Luva and says that they are leaving, but the

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:16.000
<v Speaker 3>evil Count will not allow it. He summons his minions,

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 3>his hinchman to take hold of them, and then violence

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 3>breaks out. Memowalde puts up a valiant fight. He uses

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 3>like improvised weapons from the room. I think he grabs

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 3>a torch off the wall, and then one of the

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.840
<v Speaker 3>henchmen grabs a saber off the wall and they fight

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.479
<v Speaker 3>there in front of the fire. But eventually Mimiwalde is

0:33:34.560 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 3>outnumbered and overpowered by the Count's fighters, and eventually we

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 3>see the Count's side including not just like the muscly

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 3>wrestlers the stuntman we were talking about earlier, but like

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 3>a whole coven of looming ghouls and these wheezing hooded

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 3>blood drinkers, and this whole group approaches Prince Mama Walde

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.560
<v Speaker 3>and then Dracula exposes his neck and bites.

0:33:58.120 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 2>It's all very well done, but I will note that

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 2>one of the vampires in that scene does look to

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 2>be an actual, actual, actual vampire from the apple she has.

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like wide eyed and big, big fangs.

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:13.839
<v Speaker 2>But uh, that's that's still It doesn't doesn't attract from

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the sequence.

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 3>But it goes onto a horrifying escalation here. So there

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>is an interment scene Luva and Mama Walde are walled

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 3>up in a secret room in the castle where Dracula

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.440
<v Speaker 3>is going to doom Luva to die of thirst and

0:34:29.480 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 3>starvation in the room, while Mamo Walde is locked inside

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 3>a coffin to transform into a vampire and forever yearn

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 3>for blood that he cannot have. And here Dracula he

0:34:41.880 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 3>places a curse. He says, quote, I shall place a

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 3>curse of suffering on you that will doom you to

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 3>a living hell. A hunger, a wild, gnawing animal. Hunger

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 3>will grow in you, a hunger for human blood. Here

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.840
<v Speaker 3>you will starve for an eternity, torn by an unquenchable lust.

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 3>I curse you with my name. You shall be Blacula,

0:35:03.040 --> 0:35:06.680
<v Speaker 3>a vampire like myself, a living fiend. You will be

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.720
<v Speaker 3>doomed never to know that sweet blood which will become

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:14.239
<v Speaker 3>your only desire. And then slam slam shut the coffin door.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.959
<v Speaker 3>They pad lock it, and they close the wall, and

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 3>the curse to mam Mawalde and Luva are left trapped

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:23.160
<v Speaker 3>in this room forever.

0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:27.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's heavy stuff, and it's also worth noting.

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.839
<v Speaker 2>Here like this, we hear the name Blacula here, and

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 2>we'll hear an echo of this later. But Mama Walde

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.400
<v Speaker 2>never in this film self identifies as Blacula, Like this

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>is the name uttered by Dracula as he curses him.

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes, now, it might seem curious why Dracula is portrayed, uh, Robin,

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I bet you picked up on the same thing. He's

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 3>portrayed not just as being cruel to them, but specifically

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 3>as having an orientation of vengeance. He is vengeful towards

0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Mamma Waldey and Luva, and they've done nothing whatsoever to

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 3>harm him, Like there's no reason for he for him

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 3>to be vengeful. But I think it fits. It goes

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 3>with the theme like this is a common posture of racism,

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 3>like vengeance, a feeling of need for vengeance in response

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:15.840
<v Speaker 3>to nothing.

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a great point. I want to again

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 2>mention that macaulay is really great in this sequence. He

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>continues to lay on Dracula's evil very effectively. And I

0:36:28.920 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 2>love the way that they made him up. So blood's

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 2>dripping from his lips after he has fed on Mama

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Walde and he's taunting Luva, but it's also draining from

0:36:37.120 --> 0:36:40.719
<v Speaker 2>his eyes, you know, like he's like he's he's a

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>vicious beast that's so fatted on blood that his body

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:46.560
<v Speaker 2>can't contain it all anymore. It's just kind of leaking

0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 2>out of every orifice. And yeah, it's just brutal stuff.

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, and I think the blood running out of

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 3>the eyes, to me, it is a visual signal to

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.319
<v Speaker 3>convey hate. Do you get the same thing?

0:36:59.000 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I think?

0:36:59.320 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 4>So? Yeah.

0:37:00.280 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 3>So here we go to the credits, and again I

0:37:02.680 --> 0:37:06.240
<v Speaker 3>love the design of the credits. There's groovy modern music.

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 3>There's the animated bat chasing a woman around in the

0:37:08.880 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 3>abstract landscape. It's very cool. After the credits, we returned

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:17.040
<v Speaker 3>to Dracula's castle, but it's the present. Dracula's house is

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:20.239
<v Speaker 3>undergoing an estate sale, and we've got a couple of

0:37:20.320 --> 0:37:24.839
<v Speaker 3>wholesale antique buyers from America who are here to they're

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 3>about to sign the paperwork to buy everything from the castle.

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 3>The two antique dealers are the characters Bobby McCoy and

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Billy Schaefer. And these are the characters I think you

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:38.439
<v Speaker 3>alluded to earlier, rob who are portrayed as very stereotypically gay.

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 3>Apparently they don't find out until the last minute that

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.279
<v Speaker 3>all of the stuff they're about to buy belonged to

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:50.399
<v Speaker 3>Count Dracula. The seller is worried that this is going

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:53.160
<v Speaker 3>to endanger the deal and gives them a discount. But

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 3>do they really need one. Answer is no, because the

0:37:56.200 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Dracula thing is a bonus to them. Bobby says, where

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 3>we come from, Dracula is the Krim de la crim

0:38:02.640 --> 0:38:05.320
<v Speaker 3>of camp. We're going to get a fortune for these things.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the guy here was worried about about having to

0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.759
<v Speaker 2>deal with a Dracula refund or a Dracula discount. He

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.320
<v Speaker 2>should have been he should have been adding to the price.

0:38:16.360 --> 0:38:18.800
<v Speaker 2>He should have been asking more for all this Dracula stuff.

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Billy also says that he has seen all of Dracula's movies,

0:38:23.920 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 3>So I think it's interesting that, like, what is the

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 3>understanding of Dracula in the world of this movie. Here's

0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:34.760
<v Speaker 3>what it seems to be. First of all, in this movie,

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 3>vampires are real. Count Dracula was a real historical vampire

0:38:40.360 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 3>in the late seventeen hundreds, though some modern characters believe

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 3>he was just a myth, and this character is separate

0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.960
<v Speaker 3>from Vladdi Impaler, who lived in the fifteenth century. Also,

0:38:52.160 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 3>in this universe, Dracula exists as a character known in

0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 3>horror films and stories, presumably the novel Dracula exists.

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting to tease all this apart. Rodney Barnes

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>in the in blacular Return of the King, the way

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:12.239
<v Speaker 2>he kind of treated it was okay, Mama Walde had

0:39:12.520 --> 0:39:14.680
<v Speaker 2>like knew that this Count Dracula had there were some

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 2>rumors about him about how he might be connected to

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 2>this earlier tyrannical figure, but he just dismissed it as myth. So, yeah,

0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 2>there are multiple layers of fiction and history and fictional

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.680
<v Speaker 2>history that you have to juggle in this scenario.

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 3>But it also portrays the historical figure Count Dracula in

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:39.920
<v Speaker 3>the late seventeen hundreds as having been an influential player

0:39:40.120 --> 0:39:45.320
<v Speaker 3>in international politics, because the reason Luva and Mama Walde

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.240
<v Speaker 3>are going to his castle is to get his support

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:51.400
<v Speaker 3>for trying to get allies for an international treaty. So

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 3>he's not just seen as like, you know, a reclusive

0:39:54.080 --> 0:39:57.200
<v Speaker 3>figure of mystery. This is like somebody who has influence

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:58.720
<v Speaker 3>over the affairs of state.

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he is not an evil in the background of

0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Europeans aristocracy. He is in the forefront, which which I

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 2>think is key here. But anyway, he's long dad at

0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 2>this point.

0:40:11.560 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's right. In fact, the guy at the estate

0:40:13.800 --> 0:40:16.240
<v Speaker 3>sale mentions how Dracula died.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he says, you know, don't worry about him. It

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 2>was all over hyped anyway, and Van Helsing destroyed him

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.200
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty years ago. So it's interesting, you know,

0:40:27.239 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>we're set to encounter a reawakened Mamma Walde in a

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 2>world where his greatest adversary is himself long destroyed, but

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:38.920
<v Speaker 2>the legacy of his crime still resonate.

0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:42.560
<v Speaker 3>Right, So while going around with the seller, Bobby and

0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Billy in the castle here discover an undisturbed coffin in

0:40:46.239 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 3>a hidden room behind a wall, and we see we

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 3>the audience know that this is the room where Memowalde

0:40:53.280 --> 0:40:57.280
<v Speaker 3>and Luva were buried alive. So they add the coffin

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.840
<v Speaker 3>to their hall and we see it brought back to

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 3>the States to be a cargo ship. And here we

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 3>get some a little bit of fish out of time texture,

0:41:05.880 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 3>so we see modern streets and traffic and it's set

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.839
<v Speaker 3>to a funk soundtrack. We get some you know, wuah

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 3>wah guitar, and then we see Bobby and Billy get

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:19.840
<v Speaker 3>the coffin back to their warehouse, and Billy is discussing

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 3>the idea of using it as a guest bed at

0:41:22.360 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 3>their house. I like this idea.

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:28.239
<v Speaker 2>Bobby is doubtful though, He's clearly doubtful of this idea,

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 2>and he's like, okay.

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 3>So they start trying to open the stuff. But before

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Bobby can get the coffin open, I think he breaks

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.239
<v Speaker 3>off the lock, but he doesn't open it yet. At

0:41:37.280 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 3>the other end of the room, Billy cuts himself while

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 3>prying at the lid of another crate, and it seems

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 3>the smell of fresh blood stirs something inside the coffin,

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 3>and so while Bobby and Billy are not looking, the

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 3>lid creaks open and Mama Walde, now transformed into a vampire,

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 3>begins to rise.

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is our first real shot of the awakened

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 2>prince Man w Walde facing the camera, Dracula's curse audibly

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 2>resonating in his mind. Pretty haunting stuff.

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, So he rises from the coffin and he he

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:14.319
<v Speaker 3>looks almost confused, like he's he's changed now, but he's

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 3>torn between his conscious horror at his fate and his

0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 3>immediate thirst for blood like the you know, his conscious

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:26.319
<v Speaker 3>mind is fighting the vampire within him, and here might

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 3>be a good place to discuss Memoilde's two looks as

0:42:30.520 --> 0:42:34.600
<v Speaker 3>a vampire. So sometimes basically, when he's not about to

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 3>bite someone, he just looks like himself. He looks like

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:40.760
<v Speaker 3>the regular prince Mamuelde from before. But when he goes

0:42:40.840 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 3>into vampire mode, when he is about to bite someone

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:47.520
<v Speaker 3>or transform into a bat or something, he grows fangs,

0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>of course, but he also grows an interesting pattern of

0:42:50.800 --> 0:42:54.280
<v Speaker 3>facial hair where it's like his eyebrows become very bushy

0:42:54.760 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 3>and they sort of connect to the hair on his temples,

0:42:58.360 --> 0:43:01.439
<v Speaker 3>and his mustache grows out longer, and he gains these

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:07.840
<v Speaker 3>sharply sculpted sideburns, and there's a redness added to his eyes.

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:11.640
<v Speaker 3>He has a different look when he is about to

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.799
<v Speaker 3>behave more like a predatory vampire. And the fact that

0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 3>there is this physical transformation is almost a bit werewolfy.

0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 3>I like the visual transformation because it coincides with the

0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:28.080
<v Speaker 3>dual nature of Mamoulde the vampire, so he hasn't been

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:31.880
<v Speaker 3>changed into just a demon of pure evil. Most of

0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.960
<v Speaker 3>the time he is simply like himself, like he was

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 3>before the change. And even in the form of even

0:43:38.680 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 3>as a vampire, Memo Walde is shown to be a

0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 3>good and moral man. He has thoughtful, kind, suave, even

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:52.000
<v Speaker 3>tempered charming, but when he goes into vampire mode, he

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 3>thirsts only for blood and it is almost like a

0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:56.080
<v Speaker 3>werewolf transformation.

0:43:56.719 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think the pronounced widow's peak he develops when

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 2>he's in full vampire mode in hunger mode is key.

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:06.640
<v Speaker 2>And I think the real take home here is if

0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:08.880
<v Speaker 2>someone you know you suddenly encounter them and they have

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:15.239
<v Speaker 2>a pronounced widow peak that extends further down than their

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 2>hairline originally was, then you need to run because that

0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:21.080
<v Speaker 2>person has become a dracula of some sort.

0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:25.080
<v Speaker 3>So Mema Walde bites and drains Billy and Bobby there

0:44:25.120 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 3>in the antique warehouse, and next we go to a

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.399
<v Speaker 3>scene at a funeral home where we're going to meet

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:35.680
<v Speaker 3>our other main characters. So Bobby's body is lying out

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 3>for it's lying out in the coffin for visitation, and

0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 3>somehow Mima Walde is there like he's looking on from

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 3>behind a curtain at the back of the room, and

0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 3>slowly we see Bobby's hand to begin to move from

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 3>its resting place and grip the wall of the coffin,

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 3>but then Bobby stops moving when the living approach, and

0:44:55.760 --> 0:45:00.160
<v Speaker 3>our living characters are Michelle. This is Denise Nicholas we

0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:05.680
<v Speaker 3>mentioned her earlier. Michelle's coworker and romantic partner, doctor Gordon Thomas.

0:45:05.760 --> 0:45:10.919
<v Speaker 3>This is Thalmas Resulola. We get Michelle's sister, Tina, who

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.640
<v Speaker 3>is played by Vanetta McGee, the same actress who played Louva.

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:19.640
<v Speaker 3>And so Michelle and Tina are visiting Bobby because they've

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 3>known him since childhood. And at first, Tina is wearing

0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.920
<v Speaker 3>a hood covering her face when she comes into the room,

0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 3>but there's a reveal moment. She pulls it back to

0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 3>reveal her face and Mama Walde sees her and he whispers, Luva.

0:45:33.760 --> 0:45:36.279
<v Speaker 2>The hood is almost too much because I initially thought

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:38.120
<v Speaker 2>she was going to be some sort of sorceress or

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 2>cult member or something, but we quickly learned that she's

0:45:41.120 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 2>just very stylish.

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:45.400
<v Speaker 3>Well, I would say, by and large, all of the

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:49.400
<v Speaker 3>modern costumes in this movie are awesome, Like everybody's clothes

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 3>look really cool. I was gonna mention this later, like

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:56.920
<v Speaker 3>essentially everything Thalmas rasoulil awares looks awesome. He has this

0:45:57.000 --> 0:46:00.680
<v Speaker 3>great collection of coats and jackets. He has cool like

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:05.240
<v Speaker 3>a herringbone blazer, and he has a double breasted jacket

0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:07.839
<v Speaker 3>he wears later that looks really cool, often paired with

0:46:07.840 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 3>a turtleneck. He's got a great look. But Michelle, Michelle

0:46:12.200 --> 0:46:15.920
<v Speaker 3>and Tina also have really cool clothes. Absolutely, and I

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 3>would put the sorceress hood and cloak in that category

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 3>as well. I think it looks great. You know, people

0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:27.080
<v Speaker 3>should dress like sorcerers more often. So anyway, Tina and Michelle,

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.280
<v Speaker 3>they're confused about what happened to Bobby. His death doesn't

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 3>make any sense, and they're asking Gordon if he can

0:46:33.920 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 3>get any answers for them, because Gordon is not just

0:46:36.960 --> 0:46:42.120
<v Speaker 3>any boyfriend of Michelle. Gordon is some kind of science cop.

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.160
<v Speaker 3>We've talked about science cops on a Weird House before.

0:46:45.640 --> 0:46:49.840
<v Speaker 3>He is a forensic investigator. We're later told he works

0:46:49.920 --> 0:46:54.280
<v Speaker 3>for the Scientific Investigation Division, I suppose of the police.

0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 3>So it seems I think he's supposed to be a

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 3>medical doctor at Core, but he is. He works as

0:46:59.200 --> 0:47:03.479
<v Speaker 3>a forensic investment togator. So after Tina and Michelle leave,

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:08.239
<v Speaker 3>the funeral director is there alone. With Gordon, and he explains,

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.840
<v Speaker 3>I worked very hard on that neck wound, trying to

0:47:10.840 --> 0:47:12.800
<v Speaker 3>make it look as natural as I could so it

0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't be offensive to his loved ones. The flesh was

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.600
<v Speaker 3>just torn right out in a big chunk. I've never

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 3>seen a rat bite that size, and Gordon says rat bite.

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.320
<v Speaker 3>He wants to know how deep was the wound before

0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 3>it was repaired, and the funeral director says two or

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:33.720
<v Speaker 3>three inches at least. So Gordon is his radars pinging.

0:47:33.840 --> 0:47:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Something is seeming off to him, and he's perplexed by

0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 3>what he sees. So a rat bite in the neck

0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:43.399
<v Speaker 3>two or three inches deep. He starts looking at other

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 3>things about Bobby's body. He notices that the body is

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 3>drained of blood, even though the funeral director says that

0:47:50.520 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 3>no embalming has taken place. Gordon points out that the

0:47:54.680 --> 0:47:58.200
<v Speaker 3>veins collapse under pressure. Why would he have been drained

0:47:58.239 --> 0:48:01.440
<v Speaker 3>of blood? Gordon decides he wants to see the body

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 3>of the other victim. But the other victim, Billy, is

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:09.200
<v Speaker 3>not at this funeral home. He was white and he

0:48:09.239 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 3>was sent to a white funeral home. The funeral director

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:16.240
<v Speaker 3>tells us, So our investigator is now on the case.

0:48:16.480 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 3>He can tell something weird is up. We cut to

0:48:19.800 --> 0:48:22.839
<v Speaker 3>Michelle and Tina walking outside the funeral parlor and they

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 3>split up because Michelle is going to go visit Bobby's family.

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:28.600
<v Speaker 3>Tina is tired and she wants to go straight home,

0:48:28.920 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 3>And while walking alone on the sidewalk at night, Tina

0:48:32.000 --> 0:48:36.480
<v Speaker 3>starts to become uneasy. Something doesn't feel right. She picks

0:48:36.520 --> 0:48:40.040
<v Speaker 3>up the pace. She glances around nervously. Then suddenly she

0:48:40.160 --> 0:48:43.440
<v Speaker 3>comes round a corner and runs straight into Mama Welde.

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:46.880
<v Speaker 3>And he's not in vamp mode here, but he is

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.040
<v Speaker 3>in a full vampire costume, which he pretty much always wears,

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:54.239
<v Speaker 3>so he's in his dark suit. He's got the cravat,

0:48:54.320 --> 0:48:57.800
<v Speaker 3>and he's got this trailing black cape. And he addresses

0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:02.000
<v Speaker 3>her hopefully at first, saying love, but Tina doesn't know

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 3>what he's talking about. She tries to back away and

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 3>he takes hold of her. He says, Luva, it's me,

0:49:07.960 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 3>but she doesn't know him. She screams let go, and

0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.719
<v Speaker 3>he does. She runs away in a panic, and she

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:17.720
<v Speaker 3>drops her purse in a pedestrian underpass tunnel, and Memo

0:49:17.719 --> 0:49:21.280
<v Speaker 3>Walde follows and picks up the pocketbook He's still looking

0:49:21.280 --> 0:49:23.759
<v Speaker 3>around for where she went when suddenly he is hit

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:24.520
<v Speaker 3>by a cab.

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:27.600
<v Speaker 2>I also want to just mention really quickly. William Marshall

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 2>a very physically imposing actor as well. I think he

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:34.319
<v Speaker 2>was like six ' five, so that's notable in all

0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.600
<v Speaker 2>of these scenes where he is either perceived as a

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.560
<v Speaker 2>threat or is an active threat in vampire mode.

0:49:40.040 --> 0:49:42.560
<v Speaker 3>That's right, and he is about to change from pining

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 3>for his lost love to thirsting for blood because he

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 3>was hit by a cab. The cab driver gets out,

0:49:49.160 --> 0:49:53.359
<v Speaker 3>and this is a character named Juanita. She is sort

0:49:53.400 --> 0:49:56.440
<v Speaker 3>of vulgar and starts scolding Memo waal Day, telling him

0:49:56.680 --> 0:49:59.719
<v Speaker 3>that chasing tail could get him killed. Mema Walde is

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.560
<v Speaker 3>very frustrated. He says I lost her because of you,

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 3>and they trade insults, and after she hurls some disrespected him,

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.880
<v Speaker 3>we suddenly see a change come over him. He needs

0:50:09.880 --> 0:50:13.560
<v Speaker 3>blood once again, and he transforms into vampire mode and

0:50:13.680 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 3>bites her. Now later, Tina makes it back home. She

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 3>has to use a hidden spare key to get into

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 3>her apartment because she lost her purse in the tunnel

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 3>and she's extremely rattled. Michelle comes home and Tina confesses

0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:30.520
<v Speaker 3>what happened. Michelle says, maniacs are running in the streets,

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:34.120
<v Speaker 3>and meanwhile, Mima Walde goes back to his coffin in

0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:38.440
<v Speaker 3>the antique warehouse dejected. He's broken by the fact that

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:41.759
<v Speaker 3>his Louva ran away from him. Now the next day

0:50:41.800 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 3>we see Gordon Thomas on the case. The doctor is

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 3>paying a visit to the city Morgue to check out

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:51.680
<v Speaker 3>the body of a cab driver found dead the night before,

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 3>and here we meet a minor character, Sam the Morgue worker,

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:58.680
<v Speaker 3>played by Elisha Cook Junior, who is a character actor

0:50:58.680 --> 0:51:01.439
<v Speaker 3>you've probably seen in lots of stuff. In this movie,

0:51:01.480 --> 0:51:04.360
<v Speaker 3>he plays a surly mortician with a hook for a hand.

0:51:05.080 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He lived nineteen oh three through nineteen ninety five,

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.240
<v Speaker 2>probably best known for such films as The Maltese Falcon,

0:51:10.560 --> 0:51:14.239
<v Speaker 2>The Killing House on Haunted Hill, and Rosemary's Baby. I

0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 2>found an image here for you Joe from nineteen forty

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:20.000
<v Speaker 2>four's Phantom Lady, in which he's pulling this shocked face

0:51:20.040 --> 0:51:23.200
<v Speaker 2>that I'm pretty sure he pulls at least once in

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:24.480
<v Speaker 2>this movie.

0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:26.959
<v Speaker 3>It's his signature. Look, it's his blue steel.

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, and then inevitably he's about to be murdered,

0:51:31.040 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 2>or has discovered a murder, or is about to be

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:33.840
<v Speaker 2>killed by a monster.

0:51:34.200 --> 0:51:37.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or in these movies from the forties and fifties,

0:51:37.320 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 3>he just saw a skeleton.

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:43.200
<v Speaker 3>So Sam leads Gordon inside. They pulled the victim out

0:51:43.200 --> 0:51:46.799
<v Speaker 3>of the freezer. Sam's just kind of like gabbin at him,

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 3>so Gordon has to like get him to leave, leave

0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:51.360
<v Speaker 3>him alone so he can investigate. And what do you know,

0:51:51.840 --> 0:51:55.359
<v Speaker 3>he finds bite marks on the victim's neck. This cab

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 3>driver was also bitten, just like Bobby. So we know

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.920
<v Speaker 3>what he's thinking, and we see him reacting to his

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.959
<v Speaker 3>own thoughts. He laughs and says to himself, come on now,

0:52:05.120 --> 0:52:09.439
<v Speaker 3>that's ridiculous. But he still he has to pursue this lead.

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:13.680
<v Speaker 3>So Gordon goes to consult with police Lieutenant Jack Peters.

0:52:14.239 --> 0:52:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Gordon says he needs reports on the post mortem examinations

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:21.279
<v Speaker 3>of both Bobby and Billy, the first two victims, but

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:24.239
<v Speaker 3>the department bureaucracy is giving him the run around while

0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 3>he's been looking for these reports, and eventually they admit

0:52:26.960 --> 0:52:29.560
<v Speaker 3>that the reports seem to have been lost. They don't

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:32.799
<v Speaker 3>know where they are and Gordon says, strange, how many

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 3>sloppy police jobs involve black victims. Peters, who is a

0:52:38.080 --> 0:52:41.239
<v Speaker 3>white police commander, seems to suggest he's like, hey, what

0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 3>if all these neck bite murders were caused by the

0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:47.359
<v Speaker 3>black panthers? Think about it, and Gordon is like, get real.

0:52:48.200 --> 0:52:51.760
<v Speaker 3>So Peters promises they will keep looking for the info

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:55.320
<v Speaker 3>that Gordon needs, and he puts a cop named Watson

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 3>on the job. Gordon explains that if they find the reports,

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 3>he'll need them brought by the club tonight because he's

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 3>going to be at the club tonight with Michelle celebrating

0:53:04.200 --> 0:53:07.040
<v Speaker 3>her birthday. Oh and we also see here Gordon wants

0:53:07.080 --> 0:53:09.640
<v Speaker 3>to do an autopsy on Bobby, so he calls the

0:53:09.640 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 3>funeral home and says that he's going to send some

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:23.240
<v Speaker 3>cops over after closing to collect the body. So next

0:53:23.280 --> 0:53:26.360
<v Speaker 3>comes the club scene, a scene that is great for

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 3>multiple reasons, one of which is the awesome performance by

0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:34.800
<v Speaker 3>the house band, the Hughes Corporation, who we already mentioned earlier,

0:53:35.440 --> 0:53:38.040
<v Speaker 3>but this is a full musical number. We get to

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:42.400
<v Speaker 3>see the entire song, full band playing. There are three

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:46.439
<v Speaker 3>lead singers like a singing ensemble in the group, and

0:53:46.920 --> 0:53:49.600
<v Speaker 3>they are awesome dancers. They each have their own like

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:52.680
<v Speaker 3>solos and all that. The song is called there he

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Is Again, and the Hughes Corporation just rocks. I thought

0:53:56.120 --> 0:53:59.800
<v Speaker 3>the song was killer, as I think we said this earlier,

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 3>but it sounds like the lyrics could be about the

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:06.000
<v Speaker 3>vampire in the film. So the lyrics are like, there

0:54:06.040 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 3>he is again looking at me from across the street.

0:54:09.000 --> 0:54:11.480
<v Speaker 3>There he is again, making my heart skip another beat.

0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 3>There's some line in there, oh well. The chorus is

0:54:14.719 --> 0:54:17.319
<v Speaker 3>look the other way when he comes by you. There's

0:54:17.320 --> 0:54:19.239
<v Speaker 3>one part where they're talking about how they think he

0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:22.080
<v Speaker 3>can read your mind. There's a line where he says,

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:24.640
<v Speaker 3>I know he thinks I want his love so much.

0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:27.160
<v Speaker 3>I love the levels of mental simulation in that.

0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:32.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is my favorite of the Hughes Corporation tracks,

0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:36.480
<v Speaker 2>And if I haven't mentioned it already, the combined score

0:54:36.520 --> 0:54:40.000
<v Speaker 2>and soundtrack is widely available on music streaming platforms, so

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you can definitely dip in and get a taste of this.

0:54:42.640 --> 0:54:44.640
<v Speaker 2>It originally came out on vinyl as well, but I

0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:47.160
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's benefited from one of those awesome modern

0:54:47.239 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 2>vinyl restorations, which which seems like a missed opportunity.

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, this is truly great stuff. It doesn't just

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.120
<v Speaker 3>like work in the movie. I'd love to just put

0:54:55.120 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 3>this on anytime. So anyway, Gordon, Michelle, and Tina are

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:04.360
<v Speaker 3>at the club. They're celebrating Michelle's birthday and Mama Welde

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.920
<v Speaker 3>arrives and at first it's like, oh no. But then

0:55:08.160 --> 0:55:12.719
<v Speaker 3>he meets with Tina and maybe she's a little apprehensive

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:16.040
<v Speaker 3>at first, but he very kindly returns the purse that

0:55:16.160 --> 0:55:20.040
<v Speaker 3>she dropped the night before, and she rethinks her initial

0:55:20.080 --> 0:55:24.800
<v Speaker 3>impression of him, and Tina then surprisingly invites Mama Walde

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 3>to join them at their table. And this is not

0:55:28.840 --> 0:55:32.480
<v Speaker 3>vamp mode Mama wel dey, obviously, this is evening attire

0:55:32.560 --> 0:55:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Mama Wlde. He is super charming at the absolute height

0:55:36.480 --> 0:55:40.360
<v Speaker 3>of debonair sophistication. Now, it's been kind of a running

0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 3>theme so far that Gordon, despite being our hero in

0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 3>a way, he is somewhat brusque and anti social. He

0:55:48.120 --> 0:55:51.759
<v Speaker 3>doesn't exactly play nice with people. He's not polite. The

0:55:51.800 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 3>more charitable way of putting this that I is that

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.440
<v Speaker 3>I think he's very like task oriented and most of

0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:58.120
<v Speaker 3>the time he's all business.

0:55:58.440 --> 0:56:01.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and sometimes rough some feathers, for sure.

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But his sort of antisocialness comes through in this

0:56:06.640 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 3>scene as well, because Mama Walde sits down and tries

0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:13.720
<v Speaker 3>to order French champagne and Gordon is like, that won't

0:56:13.719 --> 0:56:17.440
<v Speaker 3>be necessary, but then the ladies overrule him, so they

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:18.800
<v Speaker 3>do get the champagne service.

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:22.560
<v Speaker 2>Now. Side note, this is another scene in a film

0:56:22.719 --> 0:56:26.000
<v Speaker 2>where they're sipping champagne from coop glasses, you know, from

0:56:26.080 --> 0:56:29.719
<v Speaker 2>wide glasses as opposed to flutes. I really need to

0:56:29.719 --> 0:56:32.360
<v Speaker 2>dive into the history of appropriate glass wear for Bubbley

0:56:32.760 --> 0:56:35.080
<v Speaker 2>because I've seen that. I feel like we've seen this

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.280
<v Speaker 2>in some films we've watched on Weird House. In HBO's

0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.440
<v Speaker 2>The Gilded Age, which is set in the eighteen eighties,

0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:42.960
<v Speaker 2>they're also drinking all their champagne out of coop glasses

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:47.200
<v Speaker 2>or something very close to a coop glass, And I

0:56:47.200 --> 0:56:50.120
<v Speaker 2>feel like I've always heard that argument was like, oh, no,

0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:52.160
<v Speaker 2>you want a narrow glass because you know the way

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:53.880
<v Speaker 2>the bubbles form and so forth.

0:56:55.120 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 3>I feel like coop blesses for champagne have come in

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:00.640
<v Speaker 3>and out of fashion over time.

0:57:00.640 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 2>It would seem to be. But my main area of

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:05.760
<v Speaker 2>research on this is seeing it in movies that sometimes

0:57:05.840 --> 0:57:07.759
<v Speaker 2>have vampires in themselves. I don't know.

0:57:08.760 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Well anyway, One interesting thing about the scene is that

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 3>I had expected Mama Welde would be more coy about

0:57:16.760 --> 0:57:20.000
<v Speaker 3>who he is and his relationship to Tina, but instead

0:57:20.000 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 3>he comes right out and tells, Tina, you bear You

0:57:23.640 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 3>bear an amazing resemblance to my wife, whom I lost

0:57:26.360 --> 0:57:29.160
<v Speaker 3>a short while ago. I loved her very much. When

0:57:29.160 --> 0:57:31.760
<v Speaker 3>you left the mortuary, I had to follow you. I

0:57:31.760 --> 0:57:35.200
<v Speaker 3>didn't consider that I might frighten you, so leading with

0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:39.680
<v Speaker 3>you look like my beloved dead wife. And just judging

0:57:39.720 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 3>by the way she looks back at him, I think

0:57:42.240 --> 0:57:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Tina is already over whatever apprehension she had previously. She

0:57:46.960 --> 0:57:47.959
<v Speaker 3>is charmed now.

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:51.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the film will stress this later, but it's definitely

0:57:51.000 --> 0:57:55.880
<v Speaker 2>worth noting that she is charmed but not bewitched. We

0:57:55.920 --> 0:57:59.000
<v Speaker 2>see either, and perhaps sometimes both in different vampire movies.

0:57:59.040 --> 0:58:03.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, Sometimes a Dracula figure or a vampire lord

0:58:03.200 --> 0:58:07.000
<v Speaker 2>figure is definitely controlling people and overwhelming their senses. Other

0:58:07.040 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 2>times it is more of a I guess, a pure

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:13.520
<v Speaker 2>charisma role. So yeah, he is not controlling her, and

0:58:13.600 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 2>their connection across time would seem to be legitimate.

0:58:17.400 --> 0:58:21.480
<v Speaker 3>That's right, And she seems to imply in a later

0:58:21.520 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 3>scene that maybe she feels this is true as well.

0:58:24.800 --> 0:58:26.280
<v Speaker 3>But I guess we'll get there in a few minutes.

0:58:26.320 --> 0:58:28.760
<v Speaker 3>So first of all, there's a cutaway to the funeral

0:58:28.760 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 3>home where we mentioned that the cops were going to

0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.919
<v Speaker 3>go collect Bobby's body. But when they get there, they

0:58:34.120 --> 0:58:36.120
<v Speaker 3>like throw open the lid to the coffin in the

0:58:36.200 --> 0:58:39.760
<v Speaker 3>visitation room and the body is missing. Gordon gets a

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:42.840
<v Speaker 3>call at the club reporting this. He has to like

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:44.760
<v Speaker 3>go up to the bar and take a phone call,

0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:47.280
<v Speaker 3>and then for some reason, when he comes back to

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:50.360
<v Speaker 3>the table for Michelle's birthday party, he shares the news

0:58:50.400 --> 0:58:55.040
<v Speaker 3>that Bobby's body is missing, and Mama Walde says, perhaps

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.880
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't dead. At Gordon is like, what does that

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.520
<v Speaker 3>mean he was dead? I examined him my and Mama

0:59:01.560 --> 0:59:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Weelde says, I'm just a passing thought. But then we

0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 3>get the arrival of Skillett. This is the guy who

0:59:07.640 --> 0:59:11.919
<v Speaker 3>keeps showing up to admire Mamaelde's cape and to say

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:16.680
<v Speaker 3>that he's strange. But Mama Walde is suddenly driven away

0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:21.200
<v Speaker 3>from the table because a photographer comes by, and as

0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:24.480
<v Speaker 3>soon as she snaps a photo of their table, Mamaulde

0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 3>stands up and abruptly excuses himself, saying that it has

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:31.480
<v Speaker 3>been a rare pleasure. Tina chases after him, and then

0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 3>near the door, she catches him to say that she

0:59:33.680 --> 0:59:36.680
<v Speaker 3>wants to see him again, and they promised to meet

0:59:36.800 --> 0:59:40.160
<v Speaker 3>again at the club the next night, but the photographer

0:59:41.160 --> 0:59:43.600
<v Speaker 3>comes barges in one more time and takes a picture

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 3>of them a second time. This picture is just Mama

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 3>Weelde and Tina, and this drives Mama Walde away. He

0:59:50.160 --> 0:59:53.360
<v Speaker 3>seems alarmed at having his picture taken. So here I

0:59:53.360 --> 0:59:57.240
<v Speaker 3>guess we should describe what appears to be the photographer's

0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.880
<v Speaker 3>business model. Maybe this is a thing that used to

0:59:59.880 --> 1:00:02.680
<v Speaker 3>have happen. I don't know, but it seems what she

1:00:02.440 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 3>She goes around the club taking pictures of people, and

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:08.960
<v Speaker 3>then she has a house right next door to the club,

1:00:09.360 --> 1:00:12.200
<v Speaker 3>and so she runs out of the club next door

1:00:12.240 --> 1:00:15.880
<v Speaker 3>to her house, develops the photos and makes prints, and

1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:18.560
<v Speaker 3>then brings the prince back to the club the same

1:00:18.680 --> 1:00:20.640
<v Speaker 3>night and sells them to people. Is that how you

1:00:20.720 --> 1:00:21.320
<v Speaker 3>understood it?

1:00:21.920 --> 1:00:22.320
<v Speaker 2>I think so.

1:00:22.480 --> 1:00:22.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like this might be something that would have

1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:26.240
<v Speaker 2>been more clear to the audience of the time. And

1:00:26.320 --> 1:00:30.520
<v Speaker 2>I know, based on conversations with my wife who's a photographer,

1:00:30.640 --> 1:00:34.280
<v Speaker 2>there were you know, there were all sorts of practices

1:00:34.400 --> 1:00:35.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of like this back in the day when you

1:00:35.960 --> 1:00:38.560
<v Speaker 2>had to develop your film. There was one in particular

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.000
<v Speaker 2>that I remember hearing that involved like a zipline, like

1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:43.240
<v Speaker 2>they had to like take the photo, get the film,

1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:45.400
<v Speaker 2>zipline it down to where it was going to be produced.

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:47.280
<v Speaker 2>So there are all sorts of things like that that

1:00:47.400 --> 1:00:51.200
<v Speaker 2>had to occur given the limitations of film technology. Nowadays,

1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:52.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's all digital and so you have an

1:00:52.880 --> 1:00:55.200
<v Speaker 2>entirely different model and everything moves so much faster.

1:00:55.680 --> 1:00:57.840
<v Speaker 3>The only other way I could understand this is if

1:00:57.920 --> 1:01:00.560
<v Speaker 3>she's is if this is not her job and she's

1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:03.880
<v Speaker 3>just like a hobbyist photographer and taking pictures of her

1:01:03.920 --> 1:01:06.520
<v Speaker 3>friends and happens to live next door to the club.

1:01:06.640 --> 1:01:07.080
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 2>But the real take home here is that it gives

1:01:11.160 --> 1:01:13.720
<v Speaker 2>us an excuse for a dark room scene, which I

1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:15.280
<v Speaker 2>absolutely love in my movies.

1:01:15.440 --> 1:01:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, this is great. So she runs off next

1:01:18.120 --> 1:01:20.880
<v Speaker 3>door to develop the photos, and here we get a

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:24.080
<v Speaker 3>vampire attack and I think a very creepy one at that.

1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:26.600
<v Speaker 3>So she's in her house. She puts on a record,

1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:29.600
<v Speaker 3>music is playing, but other than the music playing, it's

1:01:29.720 --> 1:01:34.960
<v Speaker 3>very still inside, and she's developing the photos and she

1:01:35.240 --> 1:01:38.680
<v Speaker 3>notices when looking at the negatives that Mama Waldey is

1:01:38.800 --> 1:01:41.760
<v Speaker 3>missing from the pictures she took. So it's just like Tina,

1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:45.919
<v Speaker 3>they're embracing with no one. And then she peeks out

1:01:45.920 --> 1:01:48.520
<v Speaker 3>through the curtains of her dark room and suddenly Mama

1:01:48.520 --> 1:01:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Waldey's there in vampire mode, gliding frictionlessly directly toward her

1:01:54.760 --> 1:01:57.600
<v Speaker 3>fangs showing. It's a really scary moment.

1:01:57.920 --> 1:02:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely yeah, this is this is This is one of

1:02:00.520 --> 1:02:04.200
<v Speaker 2>two really good scares in the picture. This is probably

1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:05.360
<v Speaker 2>my favorite.

1:02:04.880 --> 1:02:07.440
<v Speaker 3>And in fact, this scene develops into a double scare

1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:10.800
<v Speaker 3>no pun intended on develops with the dark one. But

1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:14.520
<v Speaker 3>it's a double scare because shortly after this a cop

1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:17.560
<v Speaker 3>shows up. Because remember Gordon was supposed to get those

1:02:17.800 --> 1:02:20.800
<v Speaker 3>reports delivered to him at the club. So this cop

1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:24.680
<v Speaker 3>named Barnes appears to deliver the reports and he's in

1:02:24.720 --> 1:02:27.160
<v Speaker 3>the parking lot of the club and he sees at

1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:29.760
<v Speaker 3>the house next door a woman stumbles out of the

1:02:29.760 --> 1:02:31.800
<v Speaker 3>front door and she appears to be dying, so he

1:02:31.880 --> 1:02:34.160
<v Speaker 3>goes to help her, but when he picks her up

1:02:34.200 --> 1:02:38.160
<v Speaker 3>to carry her inside Fangs, it's the photographer and she

1:02:38.320 --> 1:02:43.120
<v Speaker 3>has changed rapidly. So in the way the mythology, the

1:02:43.160 --> 1:02:46.240
<v Speaker 3>vampire mythology works here, you can change and I don't know,

1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:47.200
<v Speaker 3>it seems like minutes.

1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it's very viral.

1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:53.480
<v Speaker 3>So she vamps the cop and Gordon never gets his reports,

1:02:54.160 --> 1:02:56.560
<v Speaker 3>and he tells Peters as much. The next day at

1:02:56.560 --> 1:03:00.040
<v Speaker 3>the police station. Peters is mad about this Gordon. He

1:03:00.080 --> 1:03:03.600
<v Speaker 3>wants to get permission to dig up Billy Schaefer's grave

1:03:03.800 --> 1:03:06.680
<v Speaker 3>to do an autopsy. Peters tries to get a permit

1:03:06.760 --> 1:03:08.960
<v Speaker 3>for this, but he can't, so then, in a very

1:03:08.960 --> 1:03:12.840
<v Speaker 3>funny turn, Gordon he explains to Michelle that they're just

1:03:12.920 --> 1:03:15.520
<v Speaker 3>gonna have to go and illegally dig up Billy's body

1:03:15.560 --> 1:03:18.560
<v Speaker 3>themselves that night, and Michelle is kind of resistant to

1:03:18.640 --> 1:03:21.240
<v Speaker 3>this idea at first, but he likes sweet talks her

1:03:21.240 --> 1:03:24.440
<v Speaker 3>into it. He basically he kisses her and he's like,

1:03:24.480 --> 1:03:27.080
<v Speaker 3>come on, do it for me, and she's like, okay.

1:03:27.080 --> 1:03:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll go violate the graveyard.

1:03:31.240 --> 1:03:33.920
<v Speaker 3>So that night, while Gordon and Michelle are out digging

1:03:34.000 --> 1:03:37.760
<v Speaker 3>up a grave. Mama Walde comes and visits Tina's apartment.

1:03:38.200 --> 1:03:40.160
<v Speaker 3>He says he couldn't wait to see her and he

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<v Speaker 3>needed to speak to her alone. They've been dying to

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<v Speaker 3>see one another again, and Tina explains her complicated feelings.

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<v Speaker 3>He frightens her, but also when he left the night before,

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<v Speaker 3>she wanted to run after him. So he says he

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<v Speaker 3>needs to speak to her about something, and she asks,

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<v Speaker 3>is it about your wife? And he says, you are

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<v Speaker 3>my wife. She says that's impossible, Mamualde, and he says,

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<v Speaker 3>and yet you believe it, and it seems like she does.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a bit confused, but he explains as if she

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<v Speaker 3>is Luva reincarnated. He explains who they are, that they

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<v Speaker 3>come from the Abani people and were sent as diplomats

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<v Speaker 3>to Europe to gain allies who would support their protest

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<v Speaker 3>of the slave trade. And then Mama Walde says, on

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<v Speaker 3>that mission, I myself was enslaved, my wife murdered, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was placed under the curse of the Undead. Our

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<v Speaker 3>assassin was the vampire Count Dracula. Tina protests that Count

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<v Speaker 3>Dracula is a myth. He wasn't real but mamu Walde

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<v Speaker 3>explains he was real quote as real as I am now,

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<v Speaker 3>as real as you are, and as real as my

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<v Speaker 3>need for you. You are my luva recreated. So she

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<v Speaker 3>asks again what he wants, and he says that he

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<v Speaker 3>wants her to rejoin him. And it's not spelled out

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what that means, but it seems that's understood as

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<v Speaker 3>join him in undeath. Now she seems torn. She she

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<v Speaker 3>wants to, but she's afraid. She says I can't, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he says, you must come to me freely, with

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<v Speaker 3>love or not at all. I will not take you

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<v Speaker 3>by force, and I will not return. I have lived

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<v Speaker 3>again to lose you twice, and he rises to leave.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes to the door, but she stops him and

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<v Speaker 3>asks him to stay. They embrace. It seems she does

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<v Speaker 3>want to rejoin him, whatever the cost. It's a pointed scene,

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<v Speaker 3>it is, and it's emotionally complex because you can see

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<v Speaker 3>in his performance that when they embrace and kiss, that

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just that he loves her, it's not just

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<v Speaker 3>that he desires her, but there is a feeling of relief,

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<v Speaker 3>of like of a burden being lifted. And because I

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<v Speaker 3>guess because he won't have to be like this alone.

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<v Speaker 3>And so meanwhile Gordon and Gordon and Michelle are doing

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<v Speaker 3>their grave digging. Gordon digs up Billy's grave in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of the night while Michelle holds a flashlight. They

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<v Speaker 3>open the coffin and what do you know, Billy pops

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<v Speaker 3>up a full vampire. He attacks Gordon. Gordon throws some

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<v Speaker 3>really good punches some haymakers, beats him up with a

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<v Speaker 3>shovel and stakes him. And now it seems that Michelle

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<v Speaker 3>and Gordon have both seen the proof. They are definitely

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<v Speaker 3>dealing with vampires.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no denying it now.

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<v Speaker 3>And Michelle is like, oh, all those books you've been reading.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently Gordon has been doing a lot of vampire research.

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<v Speaker 3>But Gordon quickly realizes that the other vampire victims will

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<v Speaker 3>also rise from their slumber and attack, including the cab

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<v Speaker 3>driver at the morgue, So he calls Sam from a

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<v Speaker 3>payphone that Sam was what's his name? Elisha Cook Jr.

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<v Speaker 3>Calls him from a payphone and tells him to take

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<v Speaker 3>her body out of the freezer so he can come

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<v Speaker 3>and perform an autopsy with Peters, but also to like

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<v Speaker 3>leave her in a locked room, lock the door and

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<v Speaker 3>stay away, and then Gordon goes to pick up Peters

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<v Speaker 3>to show him the evidence of the vampire menace. What's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna happen? Of course, there is a vampire attack, so

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<v Speaker 3>vampire Juanita rises from her frozen slumber to attack Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is another really well done vampire attack sequence.

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<v Speaker 2>The music is really great. This, this is this is awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a it's a creepy, unusual shot where the

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<v Speaker 3>door opens and we see from Sam's perspective, he's like

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<v Speaker 3>at the phone down the hall and she's running directly

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<v Speaker 3>at the camera in slow motion, just eyes wild, fangs out.

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<v Speaker 2>You can imagine this, this, this whole sequence playing really

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<v Speaker 2>well in the theater too, because you get that moment

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<v Speaker 2>where he almost he has the keys out right, he's

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<v Speaker 2>almost gonna do it. He's almost gonna gonna lock the

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<v Speaker 2>body in the room, but then the phone rings. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you can imagine like the energy in the theater.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, No, no, no, So back at Tina's a part,

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<v Speaker 3>and we see Tina and Mama Weelde in bed and

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<v Speaker 3>she expresses a desire to join him, but he says

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<v Speaker 3>that can wait now he has to leave before daylight

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<v Speaker 3>because daylight would be fatal to him, and she tells

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<v Speaker 3>him that she loves him. Gordon and Peters arrive at

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<v Speaker 3>the morgue and they are attacked by the vampire. But

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<v Speaker 3>Gordon he's got the he knows what to do now.

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<v Speaker 3>He subdues the vampire with a big, chunky silver cross.

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<v Speaker 3>I like this cross. It looks really substantial.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really huge. I guess it's not one that you

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<v Speaker 2>would normally just carry on your person, and it would

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<v Speaker 2>look ridiculous on like a chain around your neck. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure where he got is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and Gordon explains to Peters that vampires multiply geometrically.

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<v Speaker 3>He's done the math. They have to stop this fast,

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<v Speaker 3>so they put out an APB to look for dead

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<v Speaker 3>people who have gone missing, like Bobby. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>get another club scene. I guess it's the next night

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<v Speaker 3>and they're at the club again. The Huges Corporation is

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<v Speaker 3>playing again. It's another jam and Gordon, Michelle and Tina

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<v Speaker 3>are sitting around at a table and Mama Walde joins

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<v Speaker 3>them once again. He cheekily orders a bloody Mary, and

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<v Speaker 3>then Gordon is like, hey, Mama Walde can maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>can help me? Are you into the occult? It seems

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<v Speaker 3>kind of out of nowhere, but I think maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>means like he's asking him because he wears the cape,

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<v Speaker 3>so he, you know, looks like a vampire, I guess because.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the and the follow up question, how about the

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<v Speaker 2>heavy stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly, witchcraft all that and this is so it

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<v Speaker 3>turns into a general quiz on the subject of the occult,

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<v Speaker 3>vampires and the devil, and Mama Walday is like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>vampires are the most interesting of all that stuff. We

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<v Speaker 3>get another visit from Skillett and when he arrives, mamualde

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<v Speaker 3>leaves and takes Tina with him. More talked about how

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<v Speaker 3>he wants the cape, but there's a little tip off here.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened to the photographer who was here the night

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<v Speaker 3>before or I guess two nights before maybe. Gordon decides

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<v Speaker 3>to investigate. He goes next door to her house and

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<v Speaker 3>there he finds the photos where mamaul Day is missing.

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<v Speaker 3>Gordon realizes that he is the vampire he's been looking for,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course this makes him worried for Tina, who

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<v Speaker 3>just went home with him. So Gordon and Michelle rushed

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<v Speaker 3>to Tina's apartment to rescue her. They bust in, Gordon

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<v Speaker 3>and Mama Alde fight and Mama Alde runs off, and

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<v Speaker 3>the police arrive on the scene, and then there's like

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<v Speaker 3>a chase. The people are running around through alleyways trying

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<v Speaker 3>to find the vampire, and then he finally appears. He

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<v Speaker 3>gets one cop isolated and he appears in vampire mode

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<v Speaker 3>and kills the cop. So now Gordon and Peters know

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<v Speaker 3>who the King Vampire is, but they don't know where

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<v Speaker 3>he is, so they begin an investigation to find his

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<v Speaker 3>coffin because you know, in accordance with standard lore, the

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<v Speaker 3>way you can destroy him is to destroy his coffin,

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<v Speaker 3>Troy's resting place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, especially I hunt him out during the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I guess that's the other way is find

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<v Speaker 3>him during the day and stake him while he's sleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>So from here on out, the film becomes a lot

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<v Speaker 3>more action oriented. Like there's a scene where they find

1:11:15.360 --> 1:11:18.600
<v Speaker 3>vampire Bobby and trace him back to the antique warehouse,

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<v Speaker 3>and there's like a raid on the vampire nest there

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<v Speaker 3>at the warehouse, and there's a big fight with Gordon

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<v Speaker 3>and the other police getting ambushed by vampires and in

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<v Speaker 3>the sort of maze of crates and boxes, and they

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<v Speaker 3>end up throwing these oil lanterns to fight them off.

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<v Speaker 3>There are a bunch of like a person in a

1:11:37.360 --> 1:11:40.920
<v Speaker 3>fire suit stunts. Oh yeah, there's a scary moment where

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<v Speaker 3>you remember the cop Barnes who went to help the

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<v Speaker 3>photographer at her house. He of course we saw it

1:11:46.160 --> 1:11:49.200
<v Speaker 3>in Bitten, but he's like one of their investigating party,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course he turns on them. At the end

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<v Speaker 3>of this fight, Mamualde appears and then escapes in bat

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<v Speaker 3>form by transforming into a bat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and of course this is a classic bit, right

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<v Speaker 2>vampire transforms into a bat. But from an effects standpoint,

1:12:04.360 --> 1:12:07.639
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of a daring vampire movie trope to include,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think we've all seen examples of it. Look

1:12:10.960 --> 1:12:13.920
<v Speaker 2>that look a bit silly, right, you know you can

1:12:13.960 --> 1:12:17.120
<v Speaker 2>imagine like here's here's a human poof of smoke and

1:12:17.160 --> 1:12:18.759
<v Speaker 2>then a floppy bat on a string.

1:12:18.880 --> 1:12:21.599
<v Speaker 3>Right, it almost always looks silly. I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 3>of a movie where the transformation into a bat does

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<v Speaker 3>not look silly.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, maybe I'm being super generous here because

1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:31.519
<v Speaker 2>I like so many other things about the picture, but

1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:34.600
<v Speaker 2>I thought this one looked reasonably good considering what the

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<v Speaker 2>effect is.

1:12:35.439 --> 1:12:37.240
<v Speaker 3>This is one of the better ones. I like it.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, this all leads up to a big final

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<v Speaker 3>showdown a set piece at a chemical factory, which is

1:12:44.439 --> 1:12:48.920
<v Speaker 3>where Mama ALDE's coffin is stored. Now, so he Mamaelde

1:12:49.000 --> 1:12:54.160
<v Speaker 3>takes Tina there and the police give chase. And then tragically,

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<v Speaker 3>while the police are running around in this place looking

1:12:57.600 --> 1:13:00.439
<v Speaker 3>through them through these like mazes of pipes and and

1:13:00.800 --> 1:13:03.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, chemical tanks and things, they see the two

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<v Speaker 3>of them, and then a cop shoots at them and

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<v Speaker 3>Tina is killed. Horrible tragedy Tina. And then of course

1:13:12.000 --> 1:13:15.519
<v Speaker 3>Mama Welde turns Tina into a vampire because at that

1:13:15.600 --> 1:13:18.320
<v Speaker 3>point it's the only way to save her. But he

1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:22.439
<v Speaker 3>is now of course furious, and he he yells at

1:13:22.439 --> 1:13:25.040
<v Speaker 3>the at all of their pursuers through and it like

1:13:25.120 --> 1:13:29.040
<v Speaker 3>sort of echoes throughout the entire building. Is sort of

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<v Speaker 3>a curse of vengeance. He says, this will be your

1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:33.360
<v Speaker 3>inglorious tomb.

1:13:34.040 --> 1:13:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then follows it up with your tomb, your tomb,

1:13:37.840 --> 1:13:41.080
<v Speaker 2>your tomb. And I have to say this This bit

1:13:41.240 --> 1:13:43.800
<v Speaker 2>just keeps playing through my mind because, on one hand,

1:13:44.120 --> 1:13:46.360
<v Speaker 2>just an absolutely great moment in the film that drives

1:13:46.400 --> 1:13:49.839
<v Speaker 2>home just the vengeful power of vampire Prince Mama Walde.

1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:52.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, his enemies here are clearly doomed. They have

1:13:53.040 --> 1:13:55.800
<v Speaker 2>crossed the line. But it's also one of those bits

1:13:55.840 --> 1:13:59.120
<v Speaker 2>of dialogue that, on paper or coming from a lesser actor,

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<v Speaker 2>have come off a bit silly, a bit fake, but

1:14:02.680 --> 1:14:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Marshall absolutely imbues it here with Shakespearean power.

1:14:06.520 --> 1:14:10.000
<v Speaker 3>It's strong. You can feel his rage. And then it

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<v Speaker 3>becomes even worse because so he turns Tina into a

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<v Speaker 3>vampire because it's the only way to save her at

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<v Speaker 3>this point. And then Gordon and Peters come across the

1:14:23.400 --> 1:14:26.400
<v Speaker 3>vampire's coffin. They think they've discovered his coffin and they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to stake him to end this. They rip the

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<v Speaker 3>lid off, throw the steak down, and then they realize

1:14:33.439 --> 1:14:37.960
<v Speaker 3>they have staked Tina by accident. I guess they would

1:14:38.000 --> 1:14:39.960
<v Speaker 3>have had to stake her either way, because she is

1:14:40.000 --> 1:14:43.439
<v Speaker 3>a vampire now, but yeah, it wasn't what they were

1:14:43.439 --> 1:14:44.320
<v Speaker 3>intending to do.

1:14:44.840 --> 1:14:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but at this point, the Malaldi shows up. He

1:14:47.560 --> 1:14:50.880
<v Speaker 2>sees this, and this takes the fight out of him,

1:14:51.360 --> 1:14:53.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, because this was his whole reason for being,

1:14:53.520 --> 1:14:56.200
<v Speaker 2>and he says as much. There's this great moment where

1:14:56.280 --> 1:14:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Gordon reaches in to get that big chunky cross out

1:14:59.400 --> 1:15:02.000
<v Speaker 2>of his jack get, you know, like he's pulling a

1:15:02.040 --> 1:15:06.840
<v Speaker 2>gun or something, and Mamaldi says that won't be necessary. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an incredibly sad turn. You could see he's just

1:15:09.720 --> 1:15:14.560
<v Speaker 3>given up now and with his love gone, he surrenders

1:15:14.680 --> 1:15:19.360
<v Speaker 3>himself to his ultimate fate and decides that he is

1:15:19.400 --> 1:15:22.120
<v Speaker 3>going to walk out into the daylight, which he does.

1:15:22.240 --> 1:15:24.679
<v Speaker 3>He like struggles, you can see the pain in him,

1:15:25.080 --> 1:15:27.280
<v Speaker 3>but he walks up the staircase under the roof of

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<v Speaker 3>the building and bathes himself in sunlight and then collapses dead.

1:15:31.680 --> 1:15:35.000
<v Speaker 3>And then we see like his skin rots away and

1:15:35.080 --> 1:15:39.559
<v Speaker 3>turns to worms. And it's a very bleak and tragic ending.

1:15:39.560 --> 1:15:42.840
<v Speaker 3>There's not really anything there's not really anything happy to

1:15:42.960 --> 1:15:46.000
<v Speaker 3>redeem it that comes back. You just end on this

1:15:46.439 --> 1:15:51.120
<v Speaker 3>moment of absolute loss. And Yeah, I don't know what

1:15:51.160 --> 1:15:53.479
<v Speaker 3>to say about that. It's one of the bleakest endings

1:15:53.479 --> 1:15:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I can think of.

1:15:54.680 --> 1:15:56.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't want it any other way.

1:15:56.840 --> 1:15:59.479
<v Speaker 2>You could imagine cuts the film where you could have

1:15:59.479 --> 1:16:01.400
<v Speaker 2>had something different, like, you know, the sort of like

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<v Speaker 2>police chummy chummy having that moment where they're like, hey, well,

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<v Speaker 2>well at least we stop the vampires. It's sad, but

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<v Speaker 2>the good guys won. Or you could have gone an

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<v Speaker 2>entirely different direction. It also wouldn't be out of keeping

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<v Speaker 2>with other films and just just cut back to the

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<v Speaker 2>Hughes Corporation doing another number, you know, and just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of almost like insisting on a change of pace. But

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<v Speaker 2>they stick to the ending here, and the last thing

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<v Speaker 2>we see is the skull of Mama Walde. Now a

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<v Speaker 2>quick note about the fate of Mama Walde here in

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<v Speaker 2>the film. The main poster for Blackula features an image

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<v Speaker 2>of him being staked, an image that appears to be

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<v Speaker 2>very manipulated, like it's not I don't think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>shot from the film. And this, of course is dumb,

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<v Speaker 2>but in line with plenty of other vampire movies and

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<v Speaker 2>trailers that show the movie's main vampire being staked.

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<v Speaker 3>If that were true, it would seem to be a spoiler.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but again, it wouldn't be out of line with

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<v Speaker 2>marketing for other vampire films.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's not even true. In this case, he

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<v Speaker 3>does not get staked. He just surrenders himself to death

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<v Speaker 3>by the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it makes me wonder like was this Like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm wonder of what stage in production the poster was

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<v Speaker 2>made and maybe at one point was the character was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be staked and William Marshall was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not going to work for me. And if that's

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<v Speaker 2>the case, I applaud him for sticking to his guns

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<v Speaker 2>and going and pushing for this ending.

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<v Speaker 3>So I guess that's Blackula a really good tragic romance

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<v Speaker 3>and a really good horror movie too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, I was really impressed with it on the whole.

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<v Speaker 2>So as always, we'd love to hear from folks out

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<v Speaker 2>there if y'all have any thoughts on the film, any

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