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Speaker 1: to be on this magazine. No knocking nuts. The nuts

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Speaker 1: the house. We got Dave Zeno make something I want

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Speaker 1: to get straight to the points. You know. One day,

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Speaker 1: me and Ja Rule was on the phone, Reular me Rule.

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Speaker 1: You remember he said that? And I said, that's because

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Speaker 1: it's about relationships. It's about relationships with everybody in this business. David, So,

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Speaker 1: a past in the past. Let's come on, come come

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Speaker 1: to the let's get act right now. But it's the

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Speaker 1: number one podcast right now, number one intemy want to

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Speaker 1: from the left. The fuck up. It's all rumors. It's

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Speaker 1: Elliott Wilson. That was our son? Was employed by you?

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Speaker 1: Where did he work for you? All? That that was

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Speaker 1: I don't say that because after he remember us to

421
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Speaker 1: get our lunch, the lunch you order me back then

422
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: let me see probably like some some wings and some

423
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: over ship whatever. But he used to get the lunch.

424
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean like he was

425
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: like what it was lunch for me? I mean he

426
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 1: was you know, he was. He was a getting label.

427
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: Was six years about for so you guys put them

428
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: on you gloom you him everything, he knows everything he's

429
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: seen at the source he brought over there. In an

430
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: extent said which, by the way, parents just went under

431
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: Harris Publications. So let me tell you why, because remember

432
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 1: it was always them against us, and now since we're

433
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Weekly, we actually outlasted Harris Publications. So we're

434
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna make some noise. That's big. That's big because after

435
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 1: we lost the souce, they thought it was over for us.

436
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: You feel me. We was banishing into a question and

437
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get back to Elliott. It's it's great for us,

438
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: but um the new sauce. Have you level border new

439
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: Sauce and just look through it? Not like this recently. Now,

440
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 1: I would never I would never buy you. But we

441
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: will never buy it because it was once your company.

442
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: Or you'll never buy it because their content is just

443
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: both both check check. You know what I'm saying. It

444
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: ain't not shipping eighteen years. A lot of things went

445
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: through us with that, a lot of good, bad and ugly.

446
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: So that was cool with Lindale Manila, right what everybody everybody, yeah,

447
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: is our lawyer? Lawyer? Everybody was out lawyer back then

448
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: everybody was man. We had man with so many men,

449
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: we worked with so many motherfuckers. Was crazy. He was

450
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: trying to something like under the table like he was

451
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: your lawyer. So oh god, no, he just jumped in on.

452
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: He just wants to be us. You see a lot

453
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: of these motherfucker's thought that once they noticed the truth,

454
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: it's the truth. It's the truth. Like when Black Enterprise

455
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: took the magazine look at, Look At Look. Let me

456
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: tell y'all a secret right, Me and Dave went to

457
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: Bob Johnson right right before Johnson our view as a

458
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: dumb that's the guy who used to own own BT

459
00:27:52,040 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 1: before he's so BT for three billion dollars. Goddamn it,

460
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do a foul story, I think he

461
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: used to own Sholotte when he's want to sold the

462
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: Hornets to Jordan's Jordan. You know, so some long story show.

463
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: You know we um, you know we we We was

464
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: in the whole thirty million like with a bank loan.

465
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: So you know, Bob, what means you had to at

466
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: least make sixty seventy million. Bob weren't make some noise

467
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: for y'alli is killing the game. I'm sorry. It was

468
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: those days was crazy. So y'all was in the hole

469
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: and he kind of saying that he wanted to buy

470
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: the magazine straight out directly. So we flew to his

471
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: office and it was at this time, was d C,

472
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: d C. No, it's Bob Johnson, Bob Johnson, I'm okay,

473
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: so um, you know he wanted we wanted, We wanted

474
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: eighty million. Four We weren't asking for eighty million, and

475
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: he was. He came out and he came back, he said,

476
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: I write you a fifty five million dollar check today,

477
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: And we was looking back, you know, since you said,

478
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, Bob, give us so many. We went in

479
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: the room and Dave was just us too, and we

480
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: figured after like paying off the bank, loans and taxes

481
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: and everything else, who would end up with a few

482
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: million dollars a piece. The whole thing about the source was,

483
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 1: and I say that to say this, the whole thing

484
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: about the source was that how dysfunctional? This just how

485
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: as dysfunctional? How do you said? I always get dysfunctional?

486
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: As it may have seen the relationship between me and David,

487
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: how it was was kind of made. The source with

488
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: it was Dave been from college on being from the streets.

489
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: It just came from two perspectives. And that's how we

490
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: ran the magazine. You know what I'm saying that, like,

491
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't want to lose the source and

492
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: then be like, okay, we're not still runnings of it,

493
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: because we know how it's almost like a call like

494
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: gave five, but you're not, y'all gone gone and we

495
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: just come how about you? David? You didn't like that

496
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: as well? Now we do, you know, we won't understand

497
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: involved because we say how bigger things, you know, I mean,

498
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: specially with the Social awards we did saw so all

499
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Access TV. I mean, we was doing major things. But

500
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:08,239
Speaker 1: the problem was me and Dave wasn't with everybody like

501
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: in New York and that and that and that, Like

502
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: up there, it's like a club of dudes that been

503
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: in and out, you know that, Norman. You know what

504
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. In those offices up in New York, in

505
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: the industry, it's the same people that just revolved from

506
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: office to office to office because they all feel comfortable

507
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: with each other. And God bless them because I've dealt

508
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: with a lot of them. I've made a lot of

509
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: money with them. So I have nothing bad to say

510
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: by anything. But I just don't think that me and

511
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: Dave was a part of that, you know what I'm saying.

512
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: And by that meeting, you know, we had our own

513
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: independent views. We didn't have to be politically correct, We

514
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: didn't have to kiss no ass because it stopped up here.

515
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: We didn't have to answer to nobody. You know. You

516
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: guys were like the first like major media company to

517
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: invest in online media. I remember that early. That's how

518
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: we lost them. That's ultimately how we lost. That's how

519
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: we I thought that was that was going to see

520
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: the telling that it was me just investing early when

521
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: when the dot com came out, when it was all

522
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: that's going crazy with that, that's when I went out.

523
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: I bet the magazine on the internet, and when I'm

524
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: borrowed ten fifteen million dollars and started. This was like

525
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: seven years before the world songs gone. Like know what

526
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It was just too early with the bank.

527
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: It just nobody understood. We was waiting and everything. But Dave,

528
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,719
Speaker 1: it gotta feel crazy now for you to know that

529
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: you had the vision for what because why you invested

530
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: all that money. You actually seen where it's gonna be now,

531
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: So I gotta feel crazy that maybe it didn't work,

532
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: but your idea was one correct. You know that, right?

533
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know we'll see anywhere we vote for me.

534
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: But that's real though. It was was right young and

535
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: they invested. He asked me, I was, I don't know.

536
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: I don't know nothing about that ship. Okay, I don't

537
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: know nothing about computers under that funk all that, and

538
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: just I don't know what then it is? Step stop?

539
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: Was it was it y'all y'all cool with step Stole mean,

540
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Steve is like somebody that

541
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: we've always had that love hate thing with. You know,

542
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: we've got money with him too. We broke bread with him.

543
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: But then Steve has another side of him that is

544
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: about that again, like that crew, you know, I called

545
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: it that crew. You know what I'm saying. And me like,

546
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just saying, like you know, at the

547
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: end of the day, the other side, you know what

548
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Like there's there's there's a few sides, you

549
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, And that's what what I say.

550
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: I just think that me and Dave was too a

551
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: little bit rough under the edges phim we wasn't we

552
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: wasn't status quo, and the source was getting only like

553
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: wanted to do Steve to the whole advertising business. Peter,

554
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: Now that was his first partner in the advertising business.

555
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: When you know, when I met Steve, he was, you know,

556
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: working with kids and playing like Carrie and records the

557
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: kid and play Welcome to play a new podcast network

558
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: during radio and TV personalities, talking business, sports, tech, entertainment,

559
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: and more. Play it at play dot It we're back

560
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: to drink Champs Radio with rapper and R and d J.

561
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Then you see in this industry a lot of people

562
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: we don't get all props when we do the right thing.

563
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get to the crap bottom of the story.

564
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: So you the guy who introduced him to the advertisement

565
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: firm that he started working with and they started doing

566
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: the reboxing thing and all absolutely absolutely he got he

567
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: he was working up at R C A Records. He

568
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: was an A and R up there for a little while.

569
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,479
Speaker 1: Gave a deal. He used to give me budgets for videos.

570
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was getting money here,

571
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: like budgets to do videos. Take the fifteen stacks. I

572
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: go do the video for like five stacks. You don't

573
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: saying preten you know I'm saying. I remember one time

574
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: some should have I got locked up and I had

575
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: had spent all the money came to ballstos like yo,

576
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: and it was for this white artist name base Blast

577
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: out of Connecticut've never yeah, Yo, they gave me fift

578
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: That's this is before this was like one of the

579
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: first he could Steve been trying to do this white

580
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: rapper thing for you know, Steve had visions of this

581
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 1: of a white crossover rapper. He was the first one

582
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: to really have visions of this, you know what I'm saying.

583
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure that people had in their mind, of course

584
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: when Vanilla Ice came up, But I'm saying far as Steve,

585
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: he was seeing it from a marketing standpoint of Look

586
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: these kids out here, these white kids, we can give

587
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: them someone of their own. And I always felt like, no,

588
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: that's the opposite of what hip hop is. So the

589
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: white kids are coming to the hoods because they love

590
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: of music. It has nothing to do with the race.

591
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: You can't make it race because when you make it race,

592
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: that's when it gets all screwed up. So interesting thing.

593
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: We have man blink on here recently, right, and then

594
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: Bleak said he was shout to Blake about the rocket

595
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: Fellow breaker up right, and um, all like all the

596
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: employees of how like every successful team now has a

597
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: Rocketfeller employee. That's that's that's that's a part of their team,

598
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: whoever it be. Do you you guys got to feel

599
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: the same way, Like, I mean, how many people came

600
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: from the song and miss what didn't miss seeing that?

601
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: It's like this we can get gold. I don't know

602
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: that the other dude through. Okay, it's not a to

603
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: raise Mike Mike Elliott, who I'm directed, Loving Basketball and

604
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: all that Elliot Mike Elliott started some Elli Wilson, Elliot Wilson,

605
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: Mike Elliott's Mike Elliotta wrecking loving Basketball and a few

606
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: of the movies apps right, because I'm so funked up.

607
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: He was like, so you feel me so so a little.

608
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: So it's like a lot of people came through the office.

609
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people came through the sauces. We discovered him,

610
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Tyson Beford y'all discovered the sauce the boon Dog. He

611
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: was the first blotoon starting. Definitely remember that. Yeah, come on,

612
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: happen that happened? U? Well, he actually he was doing

613
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: it in the University of Maryland newspaper. When I went

614
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: home to d C, I had to something. I think

615
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: my mom gave me the newspaper. I've seen the comic

616
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: in their Boon Dogs. Just dope. I remember the first

617
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: time he came and like in the newspaper. Yeah, think

618
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 1: about he think about all the graffiti the source introduced.

619
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying motherfucker's never like like, honestly,

620
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: niggas wasn't the source kept graffiti going to all my friends.

621
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, you know, I got busy, you

622
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: know what people were sitting there like you know how

623
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: much I used to read the bag and like they

624
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: do every part of that, Like when the person discovered

625
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 1: that in jail, the Source magazine. I got to commit

626
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: you guys, because there's never been a magazine that's been

627
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 1: that credible. People don't listen to people right now, Like

628
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: if a person can do another like this, briding a

629
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: magazine to try to bite your migrating system, it never worked. Man,

630
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: How proud of y'all of that? You know what I

631
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: mean that? You know I could feel that with you.

632
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: Dave were there first, you know, and we did it

633
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: the right way, you know, I mean, you know, we

634
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: kept it, kept it street, kept it real, kept hip hop,

635
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And and it was it

636
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: was a beautiful thing. We were. We didn't answer to nobody.

637
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: We we owned and controlled our own thing. We wasn't

638
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: you know, we was out of all the entrepreneurs. You

639
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: go back and look at the history Russell Simmons on,

640
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: everybody down they all had major corporation partners back in them.

641
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: You know, ours was completely completely independently. So it was

642
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: until the dot com. That's when you know I lost

643
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: control of it because I bet everything on it dot

644
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Speaker 1: com And that's what you were right, you were just

645
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: like ahead of his time. It was how can you

646
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: have Like that's crazy that you gotta be punished and

647
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: then the internet is killing print magazine. Yeah, what I'm

648
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: saying he knew it. Though he's seen it. He knew it,

649
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: like I know, he's a genie, seen it. Next time

650
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: he says something, you gotta just listen. You're not give

651
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: him two years on it. I mean, you know it happens.

652
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: It happens, but you know, but but you can't. You

653
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,479
Speaker 1: can't worry about that ship. Like, let's get to the source.

654
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 1: You gotta keep going. You know what I said to

655
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: the Source awards? Whose idea was it? And why did

656
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: everybody get shot? Or there? Guys had a couple performance

657
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 1: at the Couple's Never want to that later you, my brother,

658
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,879
Speaker 1: I never want to surce award. But listen, at this

659
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: time when you were hot, you had to be at

660
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: the How did your guys come up with that idea like,

661
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: how does the magazine company figure we'll do. The whole

662
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: thing with the Source was to be a voice for

663
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: the culture. That means so as we're being a voice

664
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: for the culture, we're seeing that hip hop isn't being recognized.

665
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: In fact, it's being you know, disrespected at award shows,

666
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: the Grammys things like that that had hip hop categories

667
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: in the late nineteen eighties. Everything they were doing was

668
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: just you know, yeah, disrespectful. So you know, it was

669
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 1: natural for us to want to come up with a

670
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: you know, a forum to be able to recognize, you know,

671
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: the real stuff that was going on. So that was

672
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: my that was who my whole idea. So the first

673
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: thing was to bring it to MTV and your Own

674
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: TV raps. We did it as a day on your

675
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: Own TV raps where we gave out the Source Awards,

676
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: which that was the first, the very first one one

677
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: with their lover and Dr Drew. You guys gotta stop

678
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 1: moving back there, okay, listen, listen, you guys are sucking

679
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 1: up the ship. You gotta stop moving please, you're moving

680
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: and storing. Smack the nigg please and come over here, man.

681
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: So listen, this is what I want to ask that

682
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: short night day that that wasn't the first? Was that

683
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: the second or third? Remember Bernie Matt hosted the first one.

684
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: Imagine that, all right, p Bernie Bernie second it was

685
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: at the Panamount, then in New York and New York

686
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: the first when the first one was in New York

687
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: right there? Not even think how did that moment sit?

688
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: When the whole Take Kick Claim came out O D

689
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Speaker 1: B Like like we got videotapes and all these ships

690
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: right there, I had like we had to do the

691
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Speaker 1: best of the source A wards and I had to

692
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: edit that all of them, so you know, we had

693
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: to combine all the ship and then just sitting there

694
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 1: and seeing all these groups the biggest thing with me

695
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: because I come from group and hip hop and regass anything.

696
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: I love hip hop like be honestly, like for real,

697
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: I was in DJ rock Shocking Ray Dog. That was

698
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: your name, Rock Shocking Dog. You don't just go back

699
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: to that name, so so you know, it was like,

700
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying honestly like that that's the

701
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: essence of hip hop. You know what I'm saying, DJ

702
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: DJ spending for the motherfucker's you know, spitting but this

703
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: source awards where sure night he was in New York City.

704
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: Did you did you know that was probably the like

705
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: the minute with the East Coast West coast be not

706
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: not not say it's spoke, but that was the time

707
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,720
Speaker 1: it came on national front. Like, um, we had always

708
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: heard that, you know, there was this bad been some

709
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: beet growing. But when she came there, it was like

710
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: it was timing. That was just timing. But did you guys,

711
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: was you guys aware of that? But it was timing.

712
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: It was ware he was gonna say no, no, no, no,

713
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: we will It was gonna be tension. We was when

714
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: something could have popped off because you had heard the

715
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: beak or whatever and we didn't have to was crazy

716
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,479
Speaker 1: about that particular one, like we've had, like the later ones,

717
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: we've had more time of security a lot of times

718
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: with the Nation of Islam. You know what I'm saying,

719
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: shots to the Nation of Islam companies, you've always dealt

720
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: with security, they've always happened it. But back then we

721
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: really didn't have a lot of security at that one.

722
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: So something was gonna jump off when all that she

723
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: was saying, when she was saying all that and everything

724
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: that would have been the one to pop off because

725
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: there wasn't a gang of security. Now when we were

726
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: just looking, not happen, you know, um came on. That

727
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: was the first one that was just snap. So what

728
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: happened so so so so so tribes getting the ward,

729
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: you know, saying while while he's getting the war pokings

730
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: already setting up wherever the sound man is bringing him

731
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: with a steak or that was done. We knew nothing

732
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: about this one. We did nothing about this nigger. So

733
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: their man went to the sound man, told the nigga,

734
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: you wanta you wanna put this in there, the out

735
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: on bail song, the dead man or whatever. So like

736
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: they had him a nobody knew that. They just went

737
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: to just had him house. Are you doing? Yeah, they

738
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: came back. A couple of niggas went right to the

739
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: sound man. We never knewiced this is. You know what

740
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I've seen big site and then later on

741
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 1: he told me the whole ship. So but from from

742
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: my view point without there, I just remember him going

743
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: up there and then he grabbed because I was like

744
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 1: kind of backstage, and I remember I was back there

745
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: with total and then he just went up there and

746
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: just you know, que Tip was saying his speech and

747
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: just grabbed the ship, said throw that ship out. Bill

748
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: started the music and my music came on. He ripped

749
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: that ship and I remember backstage, I remember what the

750
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: niggas came back, one of them at least that slide.

751
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: The niggas was like one of the niggas was crying,

752
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: like really upset, like um uh, it's not God rest

753
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: of Dead Fife. The other one there was two more,

754
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: Jerrold being the other one also, he was just upset

755
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: kicking over ship. Just matched. They was gonna perform and

756
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 1: it was presenting the Big Awards just got and he

757
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: just wanted to see how did you get that? You know,

758
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: as wild as the Sauce Awards was, as wild he

759
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: was an audience though at that first time was when

760
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: that happened. Let's make some noise, big wild as the

761
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: Source Awards was, and as and as monument, there has

762
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: never been somebody else that aspect. Nobody has ever been

763
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: able to hip um duplicate no the Sauce Awards in

764
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: the hip hop version. I've never seen award show. I

765
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: don't give a funk with happening backstage, you guys held

766
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: it together like in an award because it was it

767
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: was it was. It was an amount of respect for

768
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: the magazine really for the relationship. I told you the

769
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: relationships like it's hard giving, you know, dealing with artists

770
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: and when they get mix and when they you know

771
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because again I would have nothing to

772
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: do with it, and my funders could be mad at

773
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: me because they didn't. You know. So anyways, Um, you

774
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 1: just made great shows. I mean those shows it was.

775
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. You guys are my friends, you guys,

776
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: my brothers, you guys with my family. But I'm not

777
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: saying that because of this. I sit back and I

778
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: watch award shows and just so happens. There's never been

779
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: awards show presented as dope as the source Awards. I

780
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 1: appreciate that, Like I mean, I mean, I don't remember

781
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: just keeping it honest with you, like, um, like, like,

782
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? Like you do you

783
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: think it could ever be done? Or do you think

784
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: that you guys do awards? You had the blueprint, We

785
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 1: had the blueprint. You still got the blueprint. I'm saying.

786
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying as far as like we started the blueprint

787
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: all right, as far as giving great shows for artists

788
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: that probably wouldn't get the same type of coverage and

789
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: other award shows once they've cleared it with the with

790
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: the networks to get on because remember it was on

791
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 1: B T U, p N thirty three. I mean, Dave

792
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: got it all over the place on major networks, on

793
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: cable networks, the social words for like just TV show right,

794
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: all that too, of different and that with two times

795
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 1: on Saturday Saturday afternoon to clock. We gave ray J

796
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: his first TV show. J was the first host first

797
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: of our TV was what's the use shout to ra J?

798
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:31,840
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. So, um, so, what do you

799
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: guys think of these award shows now? Like, do you

800
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 1: think these guys should hire you, like as a consultant

801
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: at least? Don't don't keep it one thousand you try

802
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: to get No, you can't, you can't, no, no, no no.

803
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: The problem is motherfucker's just scared to funk with the

804
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: real ship. That's that's always been the problem. It's always

805
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 1: the inability if we can't control certain motherfucker's and they

806
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,439
Speaker 1: rules because it ain't easy, you know what I'm saying.

807
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: But it's like, but there's a way that you deal

808
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: with motherfucker's. We all know that. We all come from

809
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: the street. We all know how to deal with everybody,

810
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But but, but but there's

811
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: other people who can't deal like that. They don't have

812
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: that respect, They don't have that they I think they

813
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: don't even give it a chance, you know what I'm saying.

814
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: They already assume it's gonna be some crazy ship, not

815
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: knowing this is gonna be there. They wouldn't they wouldnt

816
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: even try, right j J. Rock, We never we never

817
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: made a commercial show in like political. We just put

818
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: the hottest street niggas on like didn't give a funk

819
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: where it was all over the place. And like when

820
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: you when you go back and look at them shows,

821
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: them shows to go down history. It's like what American

822
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: Bandstand is gonna be for rock because those shows right there,

823
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: all the social awards, it will never be like that again,

824
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: not like that. Not only that though, but the most

825
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: iconic groups were together. You know what I'm saying, Your compone,

826
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: how about how about pun did you ever? He said

827
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: and jerked me like the source that was crazy? What

828
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: did you think about that. It was jerked me too,

829
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: in the same sense of body who's up against the

830
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: shago one man? Yes, me, don't get me. I think

831
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: this is a situation right, this is gonna beat me

832
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: and Big just shot shot the shot career. You know,

833
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: listen at the end of the day, it was high myself.

834
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: But I'm getting saying I'm not hating, but I'm glad

835
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: cause because you're I understand that would be I probably Petro.

836
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: But who else was up? You? So who else? I

837
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: don't remember, say being us? I don't remember. I was like,

838
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: I don't know masturbating source great was that we could

839
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: they definitely at a DA time. I won't I won't hate,

840
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: but you know I got love. I love him over

841
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 1: the shock, but you don't. Hell yeah, I'm gonna keep

842
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: me ready. Was in front of me Dad's because it

843
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: was I think dropped the album. I think Dad's anchor

844
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: was there that day, and we all looked at each

845
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: other like you know, what's up, what's up? What's up?

846
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 1: What's up? Like one of us is going up, so

847
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: the sick goes all the way on the other side

848
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 1: and then jumped up. I was like, oh, well, I

849
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh no the silk and yeah, and

850
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: then the punt made that wrong, like did you you said?

851
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: He said so no, no, no what then win? When

852
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: y'all lost, what are you saying? No? None of us

853
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: said nothing to each other. Were just like this. You

854
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: know they paid you know, listen to is Rich. I've

855
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: never I still haven't got over it, but yeah I wanted.

856
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: But that's you know why I think that you guys

857
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: were so great. You guys were doing let's just like

858
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: you know, us doing this episode. Sometimes we might not

859
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: know how great it is, but there's so many people

860
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: that are young people like um, when we got our

861
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: viewers back and when you know, people said, you know,

862
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: we were doing like four hundred thousand and we were.

863
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: We were expecting people to say that that the viewers

864
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: they say in sixteens or twenty four, which lets people

865
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: know that if people want to go back and research

866
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: these things. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying, so

867
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: um yo, you guys doing the most legendary awards. You

868
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: guys had the most legendary magazine. Now you guys got

869
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Weekly, Like how did that come about? Because

870
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: it's like, what is that like I don't want to

871
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 1: say gossip because that like downplays it or is it?

872
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean, well, you know, after being dieted by the FEDGI,

873
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: going BANKUET, losing everything, well, motherfucker had to start thinking

874
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:42,360
Speaker 1: about the future and what else that he knows and

875
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: his expertise at We knew that we was magazine. Man.

876
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: I knew that if if we still fussed with each other,

877
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: we had a chance. I still had the same connection,

878
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: Dave still had the same distribution. Um. So was there

879
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: ever time when you guys had that, Um the moment

880
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: I see you just broke up the FED but like, um,

881
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 1: when you I said, man, maybe we should separate have

882
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: to be a super sexual arrassment, I mean want sexual

883
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: Let me get into it. We really supposed to talk

884
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: about it, all right, No, No, I don't know. Is

885
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: it seven years Is it seven years back? It was

886
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: so crazy that she was crazy. Were sitting in the

887
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: federal building they're talking about but this is a nigga's

888
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 1: nuts in the federal court down there. Yeah, like that

889
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: was crazy crazy, So, um, hold on nuts never got it. Um,

890
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: So we can't talk about the sexual arras something. I mean,

891
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know that like with the source,

892
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: like it was my decision to give Kim to be

893
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: the first woman editor in chief for the magazine's mind

894
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: and she had been working in five years. I kind

895
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: of like looked beside the woman man thing and just

896
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 1: seeing that she was qualified. She was she was a

897
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: hell of a writer. Against popular demand, like this was

898
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: like an unpopular choice for me to do this. I

899
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: was looking over people and so I did it, you

900
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And man, we went on and

901
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 1: we had who pulled me to drink It's no more panammo?

902
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: Mother dyeing the podcast would be the most no, no, no,

903
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 1: we go first. You don't know so, I mean basically

904
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: it was just a situation where I've never seen anything

905
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,840
Speaker 1: like it, you know, but when I've noticed in business,

906
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: like I've learned being a part of business, because again

907
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: I was I was a street thinking, you know what

908
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying, selling drugs, and you know, I learned business

909
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: in magazine through days. Right, Um, make some noise for David,

910
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: you know his dad. They've been filming our food show

911
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: for three days. No but no, but no, but but

912
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: every day. But it was like, but it was like

913
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: a long time before I even seen money from source

914
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: the source was made from Yeah it was. Yeah, it's like,

915
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: so I heard the source actually started from like a

916
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: path a pamphlet. Right do you take a newsletter to

917
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: a thirty millen of company A friends? I know, I

918
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: think it's work A hunted maion, man, come on, let's

919
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: do it. So that's crazy man? And now and now, uh,

920
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: so many people came from there. Uh there're people that

921
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 1: because I heard there was you want to talk about

922
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: that directly? Biggie comment, Yo, all my outside height outside

923
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: outside height and then was in an outside hight. Who

924
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 1: else you're saying side Biggie was an unsigned height? Now

925
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: what what here do you guys go? You guys finally

926
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: make it. You got a magazine that's popping. Why did

927
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: you even think about putting on the guys that nobody

928
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: cared about? Like when I was in the outside, nobody

929
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: cared about me. But yeah, and still you guys have

930
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: the foresight to see that and put that on. Who's that?

931
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: There was that in Maddie se Maddie that Wow, it

932
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: wasn't mad to see the guy who helped uscover Biggie

933
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, later on the original was like Maddie

934
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: and I mean honestly, like to be honest, everybody that

935
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 1: contributed to the Source is a part of the success

936
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 1: of the Source throughout all the chaos and everything. You

937
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 1: can't take away one's work, you know what I'm saying,

938
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: one's body of work. And there was a lot of them,

939
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: and it was and it was from young people who

940
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: really lived and truly what they thought and understood. Ain't

941
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 1: cared about hip hop. I just think that in my opinion,

942
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: Like you know, as the culture grew and and and

943
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: it kind of like it was that one at one point,

944
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden started kind of branching off

945
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: in its own form in different places. That's when it

946
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: was harder to keep things together. You know, Jay the

947
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Kids says someone in our podcast. He said, hip hop

948
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: is the only John Wove music that has a South

949
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: version that's an East coast version or right a west coast. Right,

950
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: but we did that. There's they just did that. Yeah,

951
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: But but what do you think that started from? Because

952
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: of of barrels? Like you know what I'm saying, right,

953
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: But then it's funny because you could say that, like

954
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: if if you're in New York, you could be like, yeah,

955
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: one from Queen's Bridge. I'm from Left Rack. But then

956
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: if you go out of town, they go from New York.

957
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: But I'm from motherfucking so I'm from l A. So

958
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: it turns from street to city to you know, if

959
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:46,760
Speaker 1: you go out the country, they come from the United States.

960
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So like, it's just really

961
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,320
Speaker 1: it's it's you trying to It's us trying to rep

962
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 1: something so hard that we're gonna give our lives for it. Right,

963
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: Sometimes it don't be the right thing I'm saying. You know,

964
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: So you got stuck together? Man, You guys happy with

965
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: Dr Dre? N No, no, not like that. That up again.

966
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: Let me clear that up and clear that up, Clear

967
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: it up and clear that up. Within the within the

968
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: whole eminem thing. Doc, Let's just get it. Dr Dre

969
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: is probably one of my heroes, like motivators, legends, I mean,

970
00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 1: influences everything to do with hip hop, a lot of it.

971
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,760
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying everything. Okay, New York is where

972
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: I got my hip hop from. But Dr Dre has

973
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: so much influence from his production and just from the

974
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: groups that he produced and meet with. My love West

975
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: Coast hip hop. You know I'm saying I loved it all.

976
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: It was the situation. Yeah, there was never beef with him,

977
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 1: and it necessarily wasn't a beef with Eminem was like

978
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: for what? For what? It hasn't really changed my life?

979
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I don't. I don't. I don't,

980
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't look back. I mean, I know

981
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: maybe in a way people could look at it as

982
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: it has, but it really hasn't. Like I'm anna hustling

983
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: that's so cracked and drugs from a corner and came

984
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: from the projects. So anything better than that is all

985
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: right with me. You know what I'm saying. I'm saying

986
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: that I'm not nigger. That's like I've had millions, I've

987
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: had nothing in everything between. But I'm still seen or

988
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: been the same nigger. But so you back in the days,

989
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: you guys like if you was against the source, he

990
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: was against the souce. But you guys like he was

991
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: the first people who was to stand up against corporations.

992
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: We heard rumors of Jimmy I bean off of you

993
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: guys stills. I mean, that was the whole that was

994
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: because I was confused, that was that that was a situation. Really,

995
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing with that was like I just felt

996
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,479
Speaker 1: like with MTV crosses and the sauce at the depth

997
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 1: jam right, the source you guys like for y'all, then

998
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: you have the source like compilation and it came out

999
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: on that like, that's the first time I ever seen

1000
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 1: a four and a half million dollar check. Let's make

1001
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: some noise for that. Somebody rot no weed at the atmosphere, compilations, compilations,

1002
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: I negotiate that. Okay, did you pay the artist? No? Yeah, yeah,

1003
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I'm just gonna say I'm sure they don't

1004
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: one of them. I'm saying, you got you guys. I

1005
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: don't know why you guys get a bad rap? Why

1006
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: is it? You know what it is before? I mean,

1007
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: the thing is, you guys are so powerful that it

1008
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: was easier to say you guys are bad guys than

1009
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: it is for people to try to get to know you.

1010
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is if a person

1011
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: know that they ships wagg or they know that they

1012
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: can't get at you, it's easier for them to say, man,

1013
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm so sneakers is whatever, whatever. But the minute you

1014
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: get in front you guys, you guys are hip hop

1015
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: story is you guys are great people, Like, why did

1016
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: you think you guys ever got a bad rap? What's

1017
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 1: going on? Because we wasn't like again, it wasn't it

1018
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: wasn't just bowing down, you know. It wasn't going along

1019
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: with yeah, conforming, I don't know that word. It wasn't

1020
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 1: going along with with with with the go along. It

1021
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: was like the rebels and you know, with me, it's

1022
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: looking like you know, because that's how the fans came in.

1023
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: They thought I was straight. Um, I got hit with

1024
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: all kinds of money laundering and extortion, and they thought

1025
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: that I was the big drug deal of funding. And

1026
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: the problem with that was in the same thing with

1027
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: murder incors that I don't think the people really understood

1028
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: how many millions of dollars legally we were bringing in.

1029
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: See they're thinking, all murdering a million, you know what

1030
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, So so they just they just underestimated

1031
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: how much legal money it was. They thought it had

1032
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 1: to be some big legal operation because all this money.

1033
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: But that's what it was because they was looking at

1034
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: the tax situation after the after the after the criminal

1035
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: broke down, I had the guilt to taxes I took

1036
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: it to um trout and ended up they found me

1037
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 1: not guilty. I was one of the few to be

1038
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: found out guilty. Of course I had to pay the stick,

1039
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: pay the fine, like one of the few to beat

1040
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: a federal tax. Took it to the trial, to the trial,

1041
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: and you're still on your ground and you still you know,

1042
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: going to trial right now, y'allah. So look, so they

1043
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: had accountant line up and ship wired up. Yeah, you

1044
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that could work at the summer

1045
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: that Dave high hold on, that's what we want that

1046
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: they hired accounting. Dave hired the accounting. Yeah, but he

1047
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: did approached three Dunkin Donuts over to George Washington Bridge.

1048
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: The feastant broke the account that you have asked him

1049
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: the wine account. You know, I was wing w Dons

1050
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: that first going on on on Route four, the first

1051
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Dunking Donors, and said he went in there. They sat

1052
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: with him and they said, and he's he thought, he said,

1053
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: the reason he did it because he thought it would

1054
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: be excited to do. He six months and ship, what's

1055
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: you doing coming around? You were like just s you

1056
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: would be like you were talking conversations and I'd be like, yo,

1057
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,960
Speaker 1: check this out. I'd be like, my man, I don't

1058
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 1: even know you, Dave. You know what we talked, Patriots

1059
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: and jets, need to paytriots and jets. Other than that,

1060
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know you, so talk to you about nothing,

1061
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: but you knew he was. I don't know nothing. I

1062
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: just don't. I just don't even be having these conversations

1063
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: with motherfucker' We ain't talking sports or some other ship. Motherfucker.

1064
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: I'm not saying there talking about taxes and aller. What

1065
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 1: are you talking about? Man, that's what the funk you

1066
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: hired for. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, gonna talk today.

1067
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: He hired you. I don't know you. You know what

1068
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's how it went until the nigga came.

1069
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 1: When when I was on trial, he came in. He

1070
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: couldn't even look at me. I'm looking at this nigger

1071
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: like and it was always like, it was always cool.

1072
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 1: I never did nothing to this motherfuer Holly know him?

1073
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: How long was he working with the good six years

1074
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: of five years, making like a hundred hair wire. I

1075
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: about to say, Mason noise for him. We gotta we got,

1076
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 1: we gotta do something that's like the opposite of making damn. Yeah,

1077
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: that was a lot of people don't understand, right. Look

1078
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 1: at I used to give people in the source like

1079
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: rail No No, No five Mikes rail diamond, source change

1080
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: for the girls and for the guys the drill, diamond

1081
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: and ice from Jacob. Then we spent so much money

1082
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: with Jacob. It wasn't this man like. We took care

1083
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: of out people. You know what I'm saying, We like,

1084
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: we we took kids before all the fake diamond. This

1085
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: is the real There wasn't for that, you know what

1086
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Any ice, This is the real ship. And

1087
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: we were spending money taking care in the isn't like.

1088
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, man, I just it

1089
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: was always uphill climb for motherfucker's to really try to,

1090
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, street niggas funk with us. But it was

1091
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 1: like the industry motherfucker's wasn't too many funkings. I knew

1092
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: you for so long. We lived in the same building,

1093
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: and I've never heard the story of a nigger wind Why. Yeah,

1094
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: this is my first time. I've learning a lot crazy,

1095
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,959
Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot. You gotta rush. I just don't

1096
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 1: know one thing that is that the first time I've

1097
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 1: ever heard your neighbor was in Carlito's Ways article. Cut

1098
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: you the way. That's what I get talking to that

1099
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: job straight out of jail and the first time saying

1100
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: now like that's about you know, as soon as you

1101
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 1: get out of jail. Yeah, hiring him because we need

1102
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: niggers like that out of like hire him. I was

1103
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: the one to do the hip hop behind balls. That

1104
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: was my idea. You know what I'm saying. So you

1105
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: hired call it fresh straight out of jail, ye remember? Yeah, yeah,

1106
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: look we all I don't see I mean if they

1107
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: still holding brudges this song, Like, come on, when you

1108
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: say holding budgets, are you saying that, because because you're saying,

1109
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 1: you're arguments. Every relationship has an argument, whether it's your girl,

1110
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: y'all more than arguments. Yeah, yeah, there was some thoughts

1111
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: a couple of days. It was a couple of years

1112
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: about it. I remember who's the our CIA records. It

1113
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: was Um and thence guy sor niggers came up to

1114
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 1: the meeting. We had an our CIA records. We're having

1115
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: a meeting about our ep it. He was a press

1116
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: day the scheduled album games Cate when when Clue was

1117
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: the assistant there, okay O C Records, Okay, before it

1118
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 1: was DJ Clue. I think he was just getting into

1119
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What's happen. Yeah, so they scheduled we

1120
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: didn't know where they scheduled an interview, you know, hey

1121
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 1: with the shorts, said that we're gonna come to interview them.

1122
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: And then they came up there with a subpoena trying

1123
01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: to serve and this is I heard something about this.

1124
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: They try to boycott you. No, no, this was over time,

1125
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: because that was some time. They came to our c

1126
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 1: A offices and lied to give upstairs to our to

1127
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 1: our press date. We have always pressed people from the

1128
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: store that you guys are employing, like four of them,

1129
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: Reggie Dennis, James, Bernard's, a few, a couple of them.

1130
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 1: They came up there and they stood in front of

1131
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: like it was on this big gass table. Now mind you,

1132
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: we were happy were the people are. Golf Brooks was

1133
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: up in the building and ship like that. They already

1134
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: heard niggas was wild. They're waiting to like to throw

1135
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 1: us out the building anyway. Man CBS is ready to

1136
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: do to us, just stole on them. Next thing, you know,

1137
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,600
Speaker 1: chairs he went through the glass window. We got dropped

1138
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: from our next week, y'all keep the gangster. Sorry if

1139
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: you didn't know drink cash podcast. You make noise for

1140
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: the eggnorant. We love it Ahead, you just take one

1141
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: pair of you mad red man, you I can tell

1142
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: you really put it in work this week with me,

1143
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 1: because Yo, listen, I'm mad black around. Case you didn't

1144
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 1: know I'm black around. I was just from the Food

1145
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: Show man. He was one of my Food show. You

1146
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: the first person of the show and the podcast in

1147
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 1: the same day. This is what we're playing on doing

1148
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: with the podcast, depending on traveling with the Food show,

1149
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: getting people on the Food Show. And then you know,

1150
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 1: we had scar Faced today. Shout that's my god. Man,

1151
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 1: he went to the hospital. Y'all suck him up. Almost

1152
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: kill scar Face to that track if you eat some

1153
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:41,480
Speaker 1: fun up ship that no, we gives you no nigger.

1154
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. Scar Face is crazy. He's always

1155
01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: been crazy, but like a genius crazy man. He walked

1156
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: over like this. I was like, Oh, I thought, that's

1157
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 1: like how they could do you swell up? No, he

1158
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: ship swall up before he touched it forecause you can't breathe.

1159
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 1: It brought up you to you're a big other face

1160
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: small is my brother man, thank you for coming to

1161
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 1: the full show. Um, you know what I mean to

1162
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: try and get you on the podcast tomorrow because you

1163
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: gotta make it up to me and my brother. But hang, hang,

1164
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: but listen. Do you think the souce, a feeling like

1165
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 1: the sauce can ever be recreated? Like something like it,

1166
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: like soul was natural and raw and you know, discovering

1167
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: new talent because I would say it would be this podcast,

1168
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: but then I would be lying because we're not discovering

1169
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: new talent. We want to speak to legends and people

1170
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: got these nineties stories, so it can any form of

1171
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 1: shape of fashion. Can the source ever be created where

1172
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 1: people like if listen, in case you guys didn't know

1173
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: when it's it was said in the source it was

1174
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: the word of God, like nobody can dispute it. If

1175
01:07:54,920 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: CNN got four Mix, that's it, nobody disputes it. Can

1176
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: any format could ever recreate that? I'm glad I don't.

1177
01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't think do you think that can happen? It's

1178
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: possible only because like there's really nothing out there right

1179
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: now that's you know, has like a great voice for

1180
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 1: the culture. There's nothing really there. You know, there's world Star.

1181
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 1: You know, the un organized digital format it has to

1182
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: be everything. It got to be. It has been a

1183
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 1: combination of digital, TV, print, It has to be a

1184
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,320
Speaker 1: combination of everything really multimedia to really get across. But

1185
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: but like with that has to come trust and who's

1186
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: doing it. You see, a lot of these things that

1187
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: you're talking about all becomes the trust and the comfortableness

1188
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: of the person with the people who are doing it,

1189
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: how much experience they have, how much credibility they have,

1190
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and and how and

1191
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,880
Speaker 1: how many people that can cross over because it's so

1192
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: there's so many different areas of hip hop now. Man,

1193
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: it's not like unified like before. So not only it's territorialized,

1194
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,560
Speaker 1: but it's also sectioned off within the territorial So you

1195
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just it's just a matter

1196
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: of how you try to come and do it. I mean,

1197
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like me and David put in

1198
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: enough work that you know, like well, you know we're

1199
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: in talks right now for hip hop with your TV show.

1200
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 1: I think, you know, no, no, no, no, not that

1201
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: because it's not about necessarily that, But we want to

1202
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: do it more like a magazine show, like how we

1203
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: did it before the Source magazine where Tonight Entertainment Tonight.

1204
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: You don't say you actually have to get these guys

1205
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: to sign off because TMZ don't we have to get

1206
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,200
Speaker 1: these guys. Well no, we we We could actually do

1207
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 1: that too, like if if we go on locations somewhere,

1208
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: but usually it's just blobs of you know, like yeah,

1209
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, you would get but

1210
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: all of them signing off because I see you guys

1211
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: were kind of early on that, like the first time

1212
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,560
Speaker 1: I've ever heard first we were was about to be

1213
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,759
Speaker 1: released from prison. I've seen it on Hip Hop Weekly,

1214
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,680
Speaker 1: like y'all camera guy was out there shout like like

1215
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: like like everybody else said Rimy Marr was about to

1216
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: be released. I didn't believe it. Look at what I'm saying.

1217
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: I was on the road somewhere and I looked at

1218
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Weeklies, and every time hip Hop Weekly was

1219
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 1: on point, I was posted something. Everything that y'all posted

1220
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 1: was one of its accurate. Other raps, We're gonna have

1221
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 1: that on TV. See that should be on just like

1222
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 1: how CNN got it, you know what I'm saying. That's

1223
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to do. And like I said, look,

1224
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: love us, hate us, anything between. You can't take away

1225
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: our experience in this game. And I mean we've lived

1226
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 1: through all these decades of hip hop and it's changed

1227
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 1: dramatically and we're still here, you know, and you know

1228
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 1: that ain't bragging. That's just a testament to just trying

1229
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 1: to be a part of the culture and understand the culture.

1230
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know, so like no

1231
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: matter what, you know what I'm saying, Like we we

1232
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: we think that if we can get when we get

1233
01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 1: hip hop weekly on TV and get the show, and

1234
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: that's when that that's going to be the beginning of

1235
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: now reliance get right. You remember I've been I've been

1236
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: all through Hollywood with that, you know what I'm saying,

1237
01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: like him a few times. But you know it's like

1238
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:10,479
Speaker 1: like when I'm talking to some people, like you know

1239
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: what I'm like, Like right now, there's a lot of

1240
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: networks that's looking for real, Like with Empire being so big,

1241
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,599
Speaker 1: there's a lot of networks that's you know what I'm saying,

1242
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: looking at black culture like, hey, we better funk with them.

1243
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, looking at love and hip

1244
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,519
Speaker 1: hop numbers, and those are big numbers. No, No, that's

1245
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,920
Speaker 1: a question I want to ask you, Dave. You know, um,

1246
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: he's always been your partner. Uh. You guys are friends,

1247
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 1: you guys are brothers. But how did you feel the

1248
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: first time he told you he was gonna do love

1249
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: and hip hop? Man? Somebody, how did you feel about that?

1250
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I supported that. We just moved to Atlanta

1251
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: and and and that one thing that to another and

1252
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: uh he told me about it, and man, because love

1253
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: and hip hop was that accident? It was actually wasn't

1254
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: that big an accident. What do you mean by that?

1255
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, you know, me and Stevie have been

1256
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: sucking around. I've been living I was living down here. Stevie,

1257
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: come fun with me. Steve stand like come over, yeah,

1258
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: yeah right, So you know what I'm saying, Like it

1259
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:11,679
Speaker 1: was you know, I went up there on Atlanta down Listen.

1260
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm doing. I don't want to

1261
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 1: make guys had a club Listen. The first time I

1262
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: ever got mased to I got made famous. Let me

1263
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: tell you some boy, Me and you don't really know

1264
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: each other, but you and I. This is the fun.

1265
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: This is the craziest, is the crazy of the world.

1266
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 1: Jar Roule, Yo, you gotta be quiet, man role. I

1267
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: moved from Left Frack to West Ars, New Jersey. Right

1268
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: jar rule? Also all right rule? Also who's the west

1269
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: a rich New Jersey? From there? Jab moved saddle Brook

1270
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: correct side the river, out side side the river, live

1271
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: next to you. And then me and you somehow both

1272
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: moved to Miami, and they connected us and said we

1273
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 1: all lived like him and Joab state around. Just to

1274
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 1: break it down for people that do understand that him

1275
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: and John stayed around, lived next to each other. Then

1276
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,640
Speaker 1: me and joall living next to each other to me

1277
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: and so we all at some point then as we're

1278
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: living next to each other, we all got kids around

1279
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: the same age, so they all working with each other,

1280
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: and we get close, you know what I'm saying, And

1281
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: we started dealing with each other's situations. You know, we're

1282
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: coming to each other, because that's really when I was

1283
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: down here, you know what I'm saying. I mean, really,

1284
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, going through everything relationship, problems, problems with ship,

1285
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: we had just with everything we were. We we would

1286
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 1: talk because we really we both came down here like

1287
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: it's not like we was in the same boat. Yeah,

1288
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: we wanted we wanted to. We want to say, get

1289
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: over right exactly, get away, you know what I'm saying,

1290
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: So you know what I mean. So we would confide

1291
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 1: each other in a lot. You know about you is

1292
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm negative, you would be positive I'm positive.

1293
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: And that was we could they were talking. Man, Yeah,

1294
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: it was dope. You don't say, but that's how we

1295
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: got to be so cool really because we all spend

1296
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: time with each other. And then when you spend time

1297
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: with each other, it's just not you're gonna tell him

1298
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: what do you want to hear. You're gonna tell him

1299
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: what you think it's best for him, because that's the

1300
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 1: best type of friend. You know what I'm saying. You

1301
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You don't tell them what they

1302
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: want to hear, and tell him what's best of you,

1303
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: even if they don't get matted. Fucking we don't talk

1304
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 1: for a week, two weeks, Fucking I gotta say that

1305
01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 1: because I care about you know what I'm saying it's

1306
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,400
Speaker 1: the same thing with all of us. Everybody makes a

1307
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 1: noise for that. You still around. Take a shot, Take

1308
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: a shot as so you know you actually hear. I

1309
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: thought she was gonna like make up scoose. I'm just

1310
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: gonna like act like, look, this is all met that Zeno,

1311
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: change your fucking rabbit. Yeah, yeah, chase your rap, Zeno

1312
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: drink Yeah, I pressed my friend fucking rabbit rap. Yeah,

1313
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: chase your rap. I don't drink, but you know, you

1314
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: know when it has to be done. Huh. If you know,

1315
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: you know what I should sucking Rabbi listen, that's amad.

1316
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 1: Just say you know what's that that this is playing? Um?

1317
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: Oh it is I thought, oh, I thought that was

1318
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 1: Dave's come. I was like, oh, you're just going hard.

1319
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: That's gonna chang and check off. I was like, chasing

1320
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,160
Speaker 1: my rabbit. That's a nonsense. You know. I gave no

1321
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: sixty five dollars check for the first and that never

1322
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: came out. Wait, wait, sixty five stats for first that

1323
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: never can get to this story? Wait up, wait up,

1324
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 1: yo yo, what kind of hard you don't even do it?

1325
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: How did this story happen? No, it was just he

1326
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: was hot as funk. I wanted the verse from him,

1327
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 1: had the money, and I know we was in California

1328
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 1: after the Steve was sucking with him, you know what

1329
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So probably Steve by the hooked it up.

1330
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: And then man, he just came up and I never

1331
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 1: forget gave it to him, spent the version and bounce,

1332
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:20,040
Speaker 1: and I was like, we just say too much to

1333
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: each other. You just got the sixty five bands and

1334
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: kept moving. We just never I just never used the

1335
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:27,920
Speaker 1: verse or nothing. You know what I'm saying. It's around

1336
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 1: a better face on YouTube somewhere. Okay, so you did

1337
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 1: use the word, but nothing to put out to get solden.

1338
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: Just like I don't know you, I don't know. You

1339
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: gotta start looking out for yourself. Now his verse, I

1340
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: don't care if it's from then to now, it's at

1341
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: least from twenty to sixty bands. It's always worth sixty five.

1342
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,800
Speaker 1: So how hot was he at that time? He killed

1343
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 1: the verse? But you know, but but like the Boston Niggers,

1344
01:16:58,320 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, let me ask you all

1345
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: that shot your ship, all that project, something like the

1346
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: thing about it if a new artist came out and

1347
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 1: now I'm not talking about then. I mean, I'm not

1348
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 1: talking about now. I'm talking about then, Like if aw,

1349
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 1: what is that noise? What is that keeping hearing? What

1350
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: is somebody clicking something? Still? All right? Tell him need

1351
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: to shut the funk up. Listen, So thinking is drinking.

1352
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 1: We drink ball and then we got wind. Would we

1353
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: go and eat and caught your bar or windwood tavern

1354
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: or wind stats go with drinking. They could have a

1355
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 1: couple of average drinking. He's now listen. You know you're

1356
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: my friend. We're clothes. I come to a crib one

1357
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 1: day living a diplomat. Give me your world just number,

1358
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 1: gave me a wright. I'm running right in had we're

1359
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: hanging out with barbecuing. You're the first person the green

1360
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: park in the house. Yeah, I bought a big park shoulder.

1361
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that shoulder with Atlanta orange and

1362
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 1: you you baste it. I thought he was playing. It

1363
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 1: was like, I'm bringing a park shoulder, right, Hi, I

1364
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: forgot on the park he running on like it was like,

1365
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: you know, he wanted me to keep in the living room.

1366
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: He didn't want to keep it. He was like the

1367
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:41,280
Speaker 1: smells of the right right, let's get you what would

1368
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: happened that day? Like that's what you're into the park shoulder,

1369
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know what I'm saying, Like

1370
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: the melt. I'm sure we've got some fellows in their

1371
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,640
Speaker 1: sucking pop, but you'll be on it off. You be

1372
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: on it off. I've been like four years in your

1373
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: blood you put away. Yeah, it was like it was

1374
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,720
Speaker 1: like eating that park no more. He wasn't eating bee

1375
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 1: Pocus the food of the gods. Talk about it, man,

1376
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: Let me tell you can listen to this show to

1377
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: take every piece of port and make that ship taste good. Man.

1378
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: This is how you know, Like I know that Randy

1379
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: Aka and Dave Mays is the blackest Jewish people we know,

1380
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 1: neither wanted to know celebrated pass Over yesterday. Let's make

1381
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 1: some noise for that. It was the week before. No

1382
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,880
Speaker 1: we went to we went to and did he wait wait,

1383
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:30,559
Speaker 1: didn't we go to the Let me tell. Let's listen,

1384
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: let's tell how powerful Jewish people is. We went to

1385
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 1: the w hotel to Jewish people. Yeah. I can usually

1386
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 1: do around as mom. You gott keep a Jewish guy around,

1387
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: that's around. That's a rule. You got Jis guy around.

1388
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: But let me just tell you how crazy it was.

1389
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 1: We went to the W Hotel. We're filming the full show,

1390
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 1: which is W Hotel for a Dum said, I can't

1391
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: from my negls heard. So we went to the W

1392
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 1: Hotel and fat Lauder that's a man and Um we

1393
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:00,560
Speaker 1: try to use the bad for me. It was like

1394
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,400
Speaker 1: they've rented it out for ten days for Passover, so

1395
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,560
Speaker 1: nobody else can rent it out. I've never seen no

1396
01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: other races to you, let's make some noise for the

1397
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 1: Jewish people for keeping the Jewish No, no, they said

1398
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: that a whole W hotel, they're all out. There's nothing

1399
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: but coucier food being served. There was no alcohol for

1400
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: those days, correct. It was like, you know, it was

1401
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 1: the ball open. It was like, no, it's passed over.

1402
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: Is anybody in there Jewish over the day? Let's make

1403
01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 1: a noise that they've been the only Jewish guy come on,

1404
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: so spends you know on day. But I'm gonna start

1405
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: with you, Dave, because you know, is there anything you

1406
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: regret besides the internet, because we got to that, is

1407
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,919
Speaker 1: there anything you ever regret that you can't have no regrets?

1408
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? No regrets. That's a real

1409
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 1: nigger ship. Let makes some noise to day being black ship.

1410
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,680
Speaker 1: Right there? You got any regrets? Man, I can't think

1411
01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: of anything. You know what I'm saying. Probably probably you know,

1412
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,040
Speaker 1: of course you want to be smart about it. You

1413
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:01,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I probably gotta be smart. But

1414
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: we ate him in here. But but but still body listens.

1415
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: But if you look back, But if you look back

1416
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: and you could say, yeah you could if you not

1417
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: even it's about yourself when you look at your kids

1418
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: and you look at their futures. You know what I'm

1419
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 1: saying that you start have to be about music and

1420
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,760
Speaker 1: music musically yeah, musical, but like like you know, like

1421
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: in the business musically now you know, I mean to

1422
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: be honest, I think I never got a real shot

1423
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: because of all the controversy of my music. Like people

1424
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 1: don't know that I produced the intro on NASA Stalematic

1425
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: album Wait Time Out. I'm saying, you know I still man,

1426
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: it's the Train over Lion, you know what I'm saying.

1427
01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: Stacy lot of Sart joining produced. That's the Hangmen three.

1428
01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 1: You see that me two times? JP like yeah that

1429
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, man, let's get as mad As Robs.

1430
01:21:52,160 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: You're not, you know, hold on, I shoulder to my career.

1431
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't even know if those are your pok rinds. Ain't.

1432
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm not anybody because that's the ball. That's the ball

1433
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: they offer those. Let me let me see if they

1434
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:16,280
Speaker 1: had Fisher Park ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's a ball,

1435
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 1: you know. Usually. Welcome to play a new podcast network

1436
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 1: featuring radio and TV personalities talking business, sports, tech, entertainment,

1437
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: and more. Play it at play dot It. We're back

1438
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: to Drink Champs Radio with Rapper and R and d J. Then, so, boy,

1439
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 1: how did you produce that? How did who called you?

1440
01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 1: Ste out? Again? Steve got through? Steve. You're getting a

1441
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: lot of love on my show. We've done a lot

1442
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: of ship with Steve and Steve, you know our relationships.

1443
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm allowing the love to be spread. But all that

1444
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,719
Speaker 1: telling of America ships, Eve, what happened with Tanta America,

1445
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm not you're failing that. I've never seen it. There

1446
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,760
Speaker 1: was no American man, There's there's ain't no tanning of

1447
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: American man. I don't believe in that, man, you know

1448
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, tann of American. I'm sure, Steve to

1449
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Stephen means that the white agencies and the white companies

1450
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 1: are now except accepting certain black but you know, right,

1451
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 1: but that's bullshit because they really ain't, you know what,

1452
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: cause they really ain't working with us. See, it's us

1453
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:34,000
Speaker 1: that that that got the juice. It's the middleman and

1454
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: the middleman above then we usually get them credit for it.

1455
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: That's just how it is. So that's what tannic means,

1456
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: the tanning of a memor. I didn't see that ship.

1457
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: I have no idea what we're talking. He rose and

1458
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 1: big Big, I guess, but he knows our relationship and

1459
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: I'm not dissing them. So this is this is a

1460
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: wonderful thing, man, But you you don't agree with that.

1461
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 1: Don't get what the handa? What was you talking before that? America?

1462
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: It was something before that style. You know. It's like

1463
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: the song still Madics. So how did who called you to?

1464
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 1: We probably did it through Steve, but but the el

1465
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: is that we also produced the one with you and

1466
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: Prodigy that win gold? Right now, okay, double classic album?

1467
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,080
Speaker 1: We need? How did this call happen? What did they

1468
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: asked you to do? An intro? We gave some beats

1469
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,720
Speaker 1: and and Eli s Ellie and we get shout out

1470
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:35,320
Speaker 1: to d j Eli s Man. Was Elis who gave

1471
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Elis the beats? You know what I'm saying. Let now

1472
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: it's here. That's when they wanted. Wasn't the guy at

1473
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 1: that time, So it wasn't Steve. It was Elis. My

1474
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: mother's steak. It was Elis. And that's not the reason

1475
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,160
Speaker 1: you got five mics. No, now I should have got

1476
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: five mics. No that that album was, Come on, it's

1477
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 1: still maddic. I don't think I'm saying man still maddic.

1478
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: It was still hitting money then that was a double

1479
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: God damn man, I thought you said about that's why

1480
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: my that was classic. That's still magic. I'm thinking crazy,

1481
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:18,000
Speaker 1: Are you crazy? That's my first um source UM article magazine.

1482
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 1: I ever, boy, I could never be more proud of

1483
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: to be from Queens at that very moment um because

1484
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: I have remember seeing Nash in Brooklyn Queen's Day back

1485
01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 1: in the days we should do something called Brooklyn Queen's

1486
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: Day and Flushing Meadow Plargue and I've seen I was

1487
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,599
Speaker 1: booked to perform and he came out and did live

1488
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,559
Speaker 1: at the barbecue and he came out with this dude

1489
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: with you know, um we call him Fisherman's they killed it,

1490
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:45,320
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And then um, they was

1491
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 1: doing all this crazy ship. So that's the you know,

1492
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: for me to see that as a chap go to jail.

1493
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: She this same kid got five mics. I didn'tnew what

1494
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 1: the mic system meant because I was an Outcast fan

1495
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,719
Speaker 1: of Outcast was the only other people I've seen prior

1496
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: to that, I believe, because something kept Playlistic, Cadillac whatever,

1497
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 1: whatever that album is came out, came out before Illmatic, correct,

1498
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 1: because I think that came out. He want to google

1499
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: that came first? Whatever? Who got five mics? Maybe? Well,

1500
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,000
Speaker 1: whoever got five mics before that? Get NAS got five

1501
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 1: mix And I was in the jail walking through because

1502
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 1: at that time in the jail I was in, it

1503
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,759
Speaker 1: was either Buckshall Shorty or not. Obviously I was on NAS.

1504
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: I did like Buckshot Shorty, and he wound up his

1505
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,840
Speaker 1: baby mother black Moon. Excuse me, his big mother was

1506
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 1: actually from Left Rack, So I wounded up being cool

1507
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 1: with him. But in the jail at that time, it

1508
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 1: was like you either NASA or black Moon, And obviously

1509
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: I picked the nine side, and wind of that article

1510
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:53,640
Speaker 1: came out. I just walking through the jail. It was

1511
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,880
Speaker 1: the and care Rest. We had care Wrests on the

1512
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: show and Caress said that he basically said, well, if

1513
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: that didn't come out, you know, he said queens Bridge,

1514
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: which which um, he said, Queen's Bridge would have never revived.

1515
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 1: But he didn't understand that. What he meant was Queens

1516
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 1: might They're not never revived, So that that yeah, but

1517
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 1: but but but there was a lot of album from

1518
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: that album restored the pride, the pride the I don't

1519
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 1: even know the other way he restored like us to

1520
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 1: be like, you know, walk outside and go go eat

1521
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn and go eating and whatever. But it all

1522
01:27:35,000 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 1: started from when people seeing that he got five months

1523
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 1: five and then you did abouly the wonderful story of

1524
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: the producers. You remember that or all the producers that

1525
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: was involved like that was that was legendary. Like, um,

1526
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 1: journalism isn't conducted like that. No, it's not that serious. Normal,

1527
01:27:56,120 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 1: it's not that serious because everything, everything, even music is faster.

1528
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: So what you think about that? I mean, you know

1529
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: the way I look at it, I mean, you know

1530
01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: you have it's it's just the sign of the times.

1531
01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: You know, everything is fast. I mean, the good thing

1532
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 1: is that we lived in those times. So I just

1533
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: appreciate that I know those times just because it ain't

1534
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:20,799
Speaker 1: here no more. I don't mean you can't still celebrate

1535
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: because you've been. You know, we're celebrated right now. That's

1536
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: what we're doing on Drink Yo. Man, let me just

1537
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: tell you, man, h the ride. Look at that. I

1538
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: just I really need to eat the pot rinding on

1539
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: my show. People, you know this is sunny DVD. Join you.

1540
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your five with the ball. Fan with

1541
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: the ball. I'm gonna get you with the ball, y'all.

1542
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: You don't know why because funk don't goes down. The

1543
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,160
Speaker 1: mother's just punch you like you don't. Just good, give

1544
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 1: me a hot five with the book you get rid

1545
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 1: of the ball. I'm gonna say that. I don't. I

1546
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:07,840
Speaker 1: don't mind. So Chris, I feel like he was gonna

1547
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: go when we were talking about the eminem situation, like

1548
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: I felt like you was gonna say something like he

1549
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: was going in the direction of saying that you didn't

1550
01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:18,719
Speaker 1: have no problem and wasn't no problem with him, because

1551
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: I really don't understand him. It was just a gun.

1552
01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:25,360
Speaker 1: You know. MTV was just taking on the hip hop

1553
01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: and I felt like, you know, big, this is where

1554
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,360
Speaker 1: hip hop can finally, you know what I'm saying, start

1555
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: getting some money. You understand, Look when drugs and guns ravage,

1556
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: and I say this the communities. Hip hop was there

1557
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 1: to give nigga's a job, you know, like niggas was

1558
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: making money off of hip hop. Man, that's a d

1559
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:46,680
Speaker 1: M x DMX rappers whack. He sometimes he supported him

1560
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:49,559
Speaker 1: because this rapper is giving at least six to eight

1561
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: people a job. My nigga, you come out of jail

1562
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,800
Speaker 1: back then a good a job. You know. They ain't

1563
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 1: like that normal, you know. So it's just the fact

1564
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 1: that I just felt like they wanted to use a

1565
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:08,679
Speaker 1: situation where the the white audience had its own image,

1566
01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, to really be at a high level of

1567
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: hip hop. What I was saying, the white people are

1568
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 1: already buying into the hoods in the black and Latino

1569
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: communities with hip hop. They don't need, we never need.

1570
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: Like Beastie Boys was the ship. Nobody gave a funk

1571
01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 1: if there was white, black purple like you didn't see

1572
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:36,280
Speaker 1: hip hip hop made it where you didn't see no color.

1573
01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 1: When Eminem came he's a white rapper. You know what

1574
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying that they did that. I did the white

1575
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: rapper immediately, but you see, it has nothing to do

1576
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:48,519
Speaker 1: it has see because the effects of that. I knew

1577
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 1: the effects of that, of what it is. Now the

1578
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:53,599
Speaker 1: kids twitter me now like who's thirteen, twelve years old

1579
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: or a three? Oh fake gal Pacino? Ah, you Eminem

1580
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 1: killed you. I'm like, you know, nigga, you don't even know.

1581
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: And then my usic like like little man, you don't

1582
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: even know it's music. You're just taking on what you've

1583
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,719
Speaker 1: seen on YouTube and automatically gravitating to that black against

1584
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 1: white ship like oh he's Eminem. And issue your issue

1585
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: was it wasn't an issue with me. The issue was

1586
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 1: I felt that that they were using his situation all

1587
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: right to separate hip hop to like you know what

1588
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, to separate hip hop from the audience, you know,

1589
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,400
Speaker 1: from from from white black audience. I mean I didn't then,

1590
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 1: of course, you know Jimmy ivenfousand now Jimmy, Jimmy when

1591
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,519
Speaker 1: when you know, we was when all this was going on,

1592
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: we had met with Jimmy a couple of times. And

1593
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Jimmy didn't want the problem.

1594
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 1: You know, Jimmy and I had actually done deals with Jimmy. Yeah,

1595
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 1: it was cool. It was cool, man, It was so

1596
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:56,920
Speaker 1: what was like, I just knew what that was with

1597
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: me was again, I was just this repor that was like, look,

1598
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: you know, because you gotta remember, these kids had came

1599
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,559
Speaker 1: up out of nowhere. These was his boys that came

1600
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: to the magazine with the tape. They had been trying

1601
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,920
Speaker 1: to sell the tape. Yeah, oh, the guys from Detroit. Yeah,

1602
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: they had to tape. You know. I was in Puerto

1603
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 1: Rico and Dave called me. Was like, these dudes in

1604
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 1: the office like on the next flight and they had

1605
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:22,960
Speaker 1: been trying to sell the tape for over a year. Now.

1606
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 1: This was his boy, right, And do you believe like

1607
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 1: the story? We like that he said he said it

1608
01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 1: was only happened because he had a black girlfriend. It's not,

1609
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: it's not it's not for me. Yeah, I don't go on, man,

1610
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Wait, wait, wait, hold on?

1611
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 1: What was made up that story that was that he

1612
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: had a black girlfriend? Car So you you did the

1613
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 1: research and you absolutely we did a lot of research

1614
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 1: when we did it Home story, Yeah, and that was absolutely.

1615
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: This is crazy. Nobody, I don't think nobody never knew that.

1616
01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man like, but it's cool. It's cool. Man.

1617
01:33:01,360 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 1: He was a great guy. Met him. I met him once.

1618
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:07,080
Speaker 1: It's cool. That's what it wasn't you know, when you

1619
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: really get down to it. We never met each other

1620
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 1: to make it personal. So I mean, I mean, of course,

1621
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,320
Speaker 1: when when when you're going back and forth on record,

1622
01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna take shots at each other. That's what everybody do.

1623
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: He was used to separate the culture and to you know,

1624
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 1: take it, you know, with the the white audience always

1625
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: was the largest audience of hip hop, going back to

1626
01:33:29,479 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: the eighties run see you again, of me of the

1627
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: buyers of those albums, albums was white people. They was

1628
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,680
Speaker 1: there the whole time. But eminem was used as a

1629
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: way to take those who white people and instead of

1630
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: making them, instead of making them the followers of the

1631
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:02,479
Speaker 1: culture and the followers of the streets. Okay, now those

1632
01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,679
Speaker 1: people are used to basically control and dictate the culture

1633
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 1: to where the streets don't have no say no more.

1634
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: That's pretty much what eminem corporate radio comes in. Now,

1635
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: they can just cater to that and then separate the audience.

1636
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:24,719
Speaker 1: But is there a problem with that? Like, of course

1637
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,439
Speaker 1: there is because that takes that takes money out of

1638
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: the hood. But the same the same people who are

1639
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 1: buying from the hood and don't have to normal. But

1640
01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: who is they when you say that they are using him?

1641
01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Is it the same people that j College talk about.

1642
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 1: They don't want you to win, they don't want you

1643
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 1: to water your plants, they don't want you to smoke weed.

1644
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,600
Speaker 1: Is that the same days? I don't know. I just

1645
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,360
Speaker 1: know what that. Look the people, the movers and shakers

1646
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:54,439
Speaker 1: in this industry right here that control the vehicles. You know,

1647
01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the ones you know who who who

1648
01:34:58,200 --> 01:35:00,200
Speaker 1: you know? Big money, take no money, big bag, take

1649
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 1: little bank. You know what I'm saying, monopoly and everything else.

1650
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:05,800
Speaker 1: Whatever you're gonna think, whatever you thought about it, how

1651
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: you think about it. You know what I'm saying. Folks

1652
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,280
Speaker 1: always bought into hip hop. I'm gonna switch the subject

1653
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: a little bit because you're a pillar of hip hop.

1654
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 1: Both of you, guys, they're both are legends. You guys

1655
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: are still talking. You very dispect you leaving hum very just.

1656
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I got perfect friends and pologized. But it's been a

1657
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: controversy going on right now right what's what African bamboo? Right?

1658
01:35:34,160 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 1: Caress One is on our show. I want to defend

1659
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,599
Speaker 1: carrerass One because I got get some more brother. Yeah,

1660
01:35:42,680 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: so I had caress One on the show. I asked

1661
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 1: Harris One about the African banbada thing. Caress One, I

1662
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: don't want to say he dodged the question. He just said,

1663
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 1: that's my man. And once she said that's my man,

1664
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,320
Speaker 1: I kind of got uncomfortable and I switched the subject.

1665
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Plus after that. Before that, I was giving care of

1666
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,560
Speaker 1: us mad my ties to get him drunk, similar to

1667
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:07,639
Speaker 1: the how I'm doing with you right now. You're drinking

1668
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 1: Hennessy and drinking park grinds. The first person I'll to

1669
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: eat ball, Goddamn, it makes no noise for you know,

1670
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,080
Speaker 1: the first person to bring balk shoulder to my career,

1671
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: but not the first person to eat ball on the

1672
01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:23,800
Speaker 1: Ring Chance podcast. What do you think about the African man?

1673
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: Bout the situation? Both of you guys, I don't even

1674
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 1: know the situation. Okay, all right, me need to do

1675
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't you don't you know, I mean, I don't

1676
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 1: know what the situation. You finish, what you're done, you're starting.

1677
01:36:42,400 --> 01:36:45,360
Speaker 1: Don't you be getting it? Come on, tell me a situation. Man.

1678
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,160
Speaker 1: If you ain't know it, then you know I'm not.

1679
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm not bringing in a situation. I'm come on, help

1680
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,040
Speaker 1: me out. You gotta do you know not on that

1681
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 1: not of that situation. Let's tear it up. So the unsigned, hype,

1682
01:36:57,479 --> 01:37:02,400
Speaker 1: the mic system, the source of worlds, the algor, the

1683
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: joint with you on Mario winning, all of that. You

1684
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 1: did love in hip hop? I mean rock the party

1685
01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:13,639
Speaker 1: was we had a couple of we had a couple

1686
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:17,720
Speaker 1: of shows, Rocket party. What what was out when that was?

1687
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:23,439
Speaker 1: When it's loving hip hop thing? It wasn't presented to me.

1688
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 1: It wasn't okay, It just I was giving Stevie was

1689
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: staying with me, I was riding to the set, were

1690
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:34,040
Speaker 1: staying together, you know, in Atlanta, and righting to said

1691
01:37:34,120 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 1: just chilling. And then you know they asked me um

1692
01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 1: basically like you know, because I was talking to him

1693
01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: already he has Michael, and I was just like yo,

1694
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,480
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you just try to be monogamous

1695
01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 1: and ship then it was like one woman, right, and

1696
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: then it was like what you said on camera? And

1697
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I say it on camera. They

1698
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: miked me up and I was the first time I

1699
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: was on and I did that driving sea with him

1700
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,160
Speaker 1: because you know what I'm saying, I was never casting

1701
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:01,720
Speaker 1: for it then. So so what happened? Why why you

1702
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,519
Speaker 1: not owned up? But hip hop? No more? What is that?

1703
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a situation that happened, you know

1704
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 1: at the reunion you know, okay, you know where you

1705
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 1: know the last part snuff y'alls, like, let's just going

1706
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:21,640
Speaker 1: out there. She is that what happened? A little bit?

1707
01:38:22,160 --> 01:38:24,439
Speaker 1: She trying to snuff your wife. Listen, every man and

1708
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 1: every world nigger in the world will will do the

1709
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: same thing. No, of course, you know, yeah, I'm gonna

1710
01:38:29,439 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 1: protect my right. It's not like you're a woman. But

1711
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:33,920
Speaker 1: that's not that's not nothing like that. That's not what

1712
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. No, no, no, she's kind of you know,

1713
01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 1: I'm choking on right. So why there's so many people

1714
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: who did so much worse things? And love and hip hop?

1715
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 1: Why do you do you think you're being? Like, just look,

1716
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: Love and hip hop was a great situation for me. Um,

1717
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it was something that I

1718
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,560
Speaker 1: didn't know I was gonna be a part of. You know,

1719
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:01,560
Speaker 1: I didn't bunch of seasons. A lot happened to me

1720
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: on that I got shocked, you know. Oh year, yeah

1721
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: you remember that's crazy. My mom's past, God bless yea. Yeah,

1722
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:10,200
Speaker 1: but that lot you say, yeah, So it's like a

1723
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: lot happened in those years just in my life. So

1724
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: it was you know, love and hip hop was deep. Um,

1725
01:39:15,960 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, love and hip hop was you know, shout

1726
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:19,560
Speaker 1: out to love and hip hop. Man, I got you

1727
01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:20,559
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like you know what I mean?

1728
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:28,160
Speaker 1: Like recently, ain't me talking? Man and Stevie was just

1729
01:39:28,280 --> 01:39:32,720
Speaker 1: back in the studio. You and Stevie. The crazy thing

1730
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 1: is you know how your your boy call you and

1731
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: your boys say, you know, he's like I always. I

1732
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 1: know your guys are brothers like y'are gonna. I know

1733
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 1: it's different, but you know what I'm saying, Like, I know,

1734
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 1: you guys got a lot of love for each other.

1735
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Do you think it was

1736
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: loving hip hop who separated y'all? Or you think yeah?

1737
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I mean? Money or no,

1738
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: not never the money because me and Sleeves ain't like

1739
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 1: out with us. It was definitely a situation with with

1740
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: with the you know, he was under presciures his situation.

1741
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:08,639
Speaker 1: I was underprecious my situation. Things happened, you know, things happen,

1742
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 1: Things happen in relationships and family. And you know what

1743
01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying that I don't think, you know, I don't know, man,

1744
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: I just don't think like I don't think. You know,

1745
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: when you do reality TV, man, you can like really

1746
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 1: try to hold it against somebody, because man, people do

1747
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 1: things just for the for these for these things, for

1748
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:31,519
Speaker 1: the cameras, and it's like, you know, you gotta know that,

1749
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: you know, if the cameras wasn't there with it to

1750
01:40:33,600 --> 01:40:36,720
Speaker 1: be like that, there's no excuse for it, you know

1751
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So how did you guys work it out?

1752
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: It's just man, just gonna take time. Man, you say

1753
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't you know what I mean? Time? Hells all?

1754
01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I mean both of us

1755
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:48,600
Speaker 1: understood what happened, and you know, like where where we

1756
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 1: stood with each other, like we don't that was unfortunate?

1757
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: What what what took place there, and it was unfortunate

1758
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: took place on camera and ship. Like when you ask

1759
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 1: me if I regret things, I regret that. Okay, let's

1760
01:41:01,479 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 1: make some noise for that, goddamn because because another thing

1761
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:08,840
Speaker 1: is like I didn't bring out there on love hip

1762
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:11,120
Speaker 1: hop for none of that ship to be fighting and

1763
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 1: all that. Like, I'm not with none of that, to

1764
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 1: be honest, I'm really not with that because you know,

1765
01:41:15,080 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 1: we fight enough off camera, the fun out whole guys,

1766
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: why are we gonna go on camera? You know what

1767
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Not no, so I don't you know what

1768
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's just it just it just it was unfortunate. Man,

1769
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: it was something that happened. You know. Guys had the

1770
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: seven five seven group, right, yeah, seven fifty seven, Yeah,

1771
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:34,160
Speaker 1: rest of the piece, Big Cap too, did Cat Cat

1772
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:41,040
Speaker 1: get Big Cap? We love you? My brother Cap Cap

1773
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:43,320
Speaker 1: had hosted the seven fifty seven tape that on that

1774
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:47,560
Speaker 1: piff you go at that Piffe downloaded? Yeah, So that

1775
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: he passed away and then you guys come back together.

1776
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,759
Speaker 1: That this was crazy about it because we wasn't together.

1777
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,120
Speaker 1: He was he was like, yo, let me just put

1778
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: the music out, and he said, yo, I ran to

1779
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 1: Stevie and he said he's here. That's cool. When I

1780
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,160
Speaker 1: was like, word this cause that we can put it out,

1781
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: that's dope. Mind you. Me and Steven wasn't talking two years,

1782
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: you know. And you guys were not only like the

1783
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:10,519
Speaker 1: first people with the magazines and let the culture, not

1784
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: the first people were doing compilations under the coach. I

1785
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: remember you guys were the first people to own studios.

1786
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: I remember you own a studio in Manhattan. Was that

1787
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: called the Source? You own a big studio. I remember

1788
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: you asked me to do a verse or something or

1789
01:42:27,479 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 1: come meet you. And I came there. You know, the

1790
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,120
Speaker 1: actually called me. I walked through. You guys had like

1791
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: they had to be like five million dollar studio. You

1792
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:40,080
Speaker 1: walked in, you had blue carpet. It was I walked through.

1793
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:42,400
Speaker 1: I know, I was like mad. We rolled up. I

1794
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:44,040
Speaker 1: was like, yea, I'm gonna go outside and smoke. He

1795
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 1: was like, Cass, I've spoke for what spoken? Yeah, Like,

1796
01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 1: you guys had all type of endeavors. Man, what's the

1797
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,599
Speaker 1: next endeavor that you guys, Dave Mays and Ben Zino

1798
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:56,320
Speaker 1: is gonna do? You really want to know, man, I

1799
01:42:56,360 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: really want to know manfact, your named this album on

1800
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: our on our podcast, give us something bad, because one

1801
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 1: of us goes, you know, crab traps everywhere, but you

1802
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 1: haven't talked about that, Benzino, crab traps in every city

1803
01:43:10,960 --> 01:43:14,720
Speaker 1: and my sauce and every supermarket. Let's do it make

1804
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:21,679
Speaker 1: noise to sound bad? I don't know we're a madman.

1805
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 1: It's not wo man as I mean to say, sauce everybody. Yeah,

1806
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't make it bad, it doesn't make it better. So, um,

1807
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 1: how did you come up with like me? I mean

1808
01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,160
Speaker 1: for the lamest, that's what you say, right, layman, for

1809
01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:38,800
Speaker 1: the layman, Like I knew, like one time Zeno King

1810
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 1: of the Crib. You know what I'm saying, it was

1811
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:44,240
Speaker 1: something going on with it. Oh that's just straight parapple

1812
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:49,439
Speaker 1: all right? This this ain't for straight parapple drinks because

1813
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:53,160
Speaker 1: there's no more around. I'm gonna hit this armor down, man,

1814
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 1: go on, let me finish. So I knew you had

1815
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 1: love for cooking, right, but most people who got love

1816
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: for basketball doesn't mean they're gonna play in the NBA.

1817
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,720
Speaker 1: What made you take this risk with this restaurant? I

1818
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 1: mean it was like a little risk. You know, crabs

1819
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 1: is low risks. I was only gonna do crabs. You

1820
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:16,600
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, So I mean it was

1821
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,240
Speaker 1: like a little small place I had been. Dave turned

1822
01:44:19,240 --> 01:44:21,240
Speaker 1: me onto the little Korean spot over there, Big Joy.

1823
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: It was in the same strip, Modest, Big Joy, Mariotta.

1824
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,839
Speaker 1: It was already kind of built out as a restaurant,

1825
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:31,000
Speaker 1: a little small spot like fifty square feet. So I said, man,

1826
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: it's perfect little crab spot. But the whole thing was

1827
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: I had to develop these sauces for it. I just

1828
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna do like a crab old bass season. And

1829
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:41,880
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying I want to do is

1830
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: I want to take it further. So it was like, um,

1831
01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:47,600
Speaker 1: I developed the sauces. The first one was like the

1832
01:44:47,720 --> 01:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Zeno sauce because I heard you win somewhere like l

1833
01:44:49,920 --> 01:44:51,880
Speaker 1: A and you've seen yeah La. It was like these

1834
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Koreans like that's like they do crabs differently, where like

1835
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:59,680
Speaker 1: they incorporate sauces with it. So I said, well, if

1836
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:02,280
Speaker 1: I put my own twist all the sausage, see what

1837
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 1: happens to me. About four months to really like what

1838
01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: Nelson was saying, did you think he was crazy when

1839
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 1: he wanted to go into the crab business. You guys

1840
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 1: are in the compilations. You guys are in the source

1841
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 1: of world. You guys are into music. You guys are

1842
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 1: into and now you want to sell fool like did you?

1843
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he always wanted to do something like this.

1844
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,680
Speaker 1: This is not He was always into had something on

1845
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 1: Miami Beach, remember that too, But he was he was

1846
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 1: certain about it was going to be. Remember, no, no,

1847
01:45:38,320 --> 01:45:41,519
Speaker 1: I got Pepper space. It's crazy. It's like it's like

1848
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,320
Speaker 1: a rose just got hot. I walked in the club.

1849
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,080
Speaker 1: This is what was it called, you know clubs? You

1850
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 1: know y'all. Ro was there. Jo Roule invites me going there,

1851
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:55,799
Speaker 1: going there, all the six bottles of roles. I remember

1852
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:58,640
Speaker 1: they had to be at least hunted the peaks. But

1853
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 1: I'm like, these things is doing? This was like your

1854
01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: birthday or jib roll birthday. I don't remember. It's birthday,

1855
01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: the job birthday. So I'm like, all right, cool, I'm

1856
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 1: not accident. Next from bottles, they got us all evishly,

1857
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 1: go to six bottles of rolls. She just came out

1858
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:12,479
Speaker 1: and then and then a fight broke out and then

1859
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:16,679
Speaker 1: Pepper sprayed the whole club. I sat there in preper suad.

1860
01:46:17,200 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: Let's go said he got this game that needed too

1861
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: bunch of money. My nigga, I'm drinking my bottles. I

1862
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 1: was like, it was all my good and it was like,

1863
01:46:24,360 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: you good. The whole club that I said, fuck, but

1864
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:32,519
Speaker 1: you know how crazy it is the buy bottles just

1865
01:46:32,640 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 1: sit down and everybody else leave and you just really

1866
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:38,760
Speaker 1: want to trick your ship funk that I don't even get.

1867
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:41,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying, right here, give me one way, just ba

1868
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 1: And that was crazy. I got preppersuade the first time

1869
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:50,720
Speaker 1: I got purpose, don't that was no best club was

1870
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: no best club? What is what is there now? It's

1871
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: it's it was It was American pattle. Now. That was

1872
01:46:57,840 --> 01:47:00,160
Speaker 1: the second flight at the second floor. Joint was on

1873
01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 1: the second floor. That's the first plash was on the

1874
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 1: second floor. So I just want to let y'all know,

1875
01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:05,720
Speaker 1: like before we get up out of here, man, is

1876
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:08,160
Speaker 1: there anything you want to get off y'all chests? If

1877
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,280
Speaker 1: anything y'all want to, you know, get to the bottom line,

1878
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 1: you know, because I know I've been messing with you.

1879
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just messing with you at least was jokes. No,

1880
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean I just know. I'm just I definitely mean,

1881
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:18,640
Speaker 1: I definitely been down to come do this. You know

1882
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:23,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Brother, I appreciate that. Thank someone. Thank

1883
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:25,759
Speaker 1: you so much. Man. You guys bring in my corner forever.

1884
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 1: I that's something I gotta say. You know, Um, you

1885
01:47:29,479 --> 01:47:31,920
Speaker 1: guys been at my corner before we even messed with

1886
01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,920
Speaker 1: each other. But we wind up living in the same building,

1887
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: and it was something that it was. It was a

1888
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 1: peer of love, you know what I'm saying, Like, Um,

1889
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 1: there's a peer of love. It wasn't nothing like no

1890
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 1: fake that God Like, I need to get in y'all ship,

1891
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,560
Speaker 1: like we're gonna handle each other. We're gonna you know.

1892
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 1: It was again, Oh yeah, that's what. That's what. That's

1893
01:47:51,280 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: what the reality show people were, you know what I'm saying.

1894
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:59,559
Speaker 1: So it's the one thing, one thing I definitely need

1895
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 1: to know because don't y'all remember when we met that

1896
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 1: I wanted the documentary with y'all. Oh yeah about this,

1897
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:06,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm glad we're finally here doing this,

1898
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:08,600
Speaker 1: but this is not a good fun. When is a

1899
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 1: real serious documentary the legacy of the source, because that

1900
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,640
Speaker 1: needs to happen now can't you do that or you

1901
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,960
Speaker 1: would have to clear that? Um do they own it?

1902
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: They would have to be a joint clearance because they

1903
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,200
Speaker 1: own the name now, so if it was to be

1904
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: like a thing, they would have to clear the name

1905
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,760
Speaker 1: of us. We have to call it the force, right, oh,

1906
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,880
Speaker 1: the creators of the soul you want? I mean, But

1907
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't think Londa would have a problem with that,

1908
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? How about you calling the

1909
01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:38,640
Speaker 1: history I think the culture needs and as all us

1910
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 1: Source longdel has to be involved probefully, you know, because

1911
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: no problem with that. You know, it makes sense to

1912
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 1: do it like chronicles because we ain't got no be

1913
01:48:51,160 --> 01:48:53,120
Speaker 1: for nobody. But at the end of the day, the

1914
01:48:53,240 --> 01:48:56,200
Speaker 1: history is what it is. Everybody's gonna have their opinions.

1915
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 1: But the way I look at it's over now. You

1916
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:01,479
Speaker 1: people gotta put that ship behind the move Now. Should

1917
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: there be a Source magazine story? Of course? Of course? Yeah,

1918
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying of course it should be because um, I mean,

1919
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:13,880
Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to start any controversial things. Do

1920
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 1: you ever just look at the source now and be like, damn,

1921
01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: I'm upset how they took it like and not no, no,

1922
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:24,519
Speaker 1: not only because of of of of how every other

1923
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:26,920
Speaker 1: magazine like The Source really is the last at your

1924
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: sales going vibes going. I mean like Russell Simmonds. Russell

1925
01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:33,439
Speaker 1: Simmons is one of my icons', one of my idols.

1926
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 1: But when it didn't Comere really make the sauce cover. Yeah,

1927
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 1: I think she did, Like that's not what y'all was

1928
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 1: on there. I think she did. She did. She was

1929
01:49:45,680 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 1: one of the first ones after we had got Yeah. Yeah,

1930
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:54,559
Speaker 1: after y'all did yeah, after because David we was doing

1931
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 1: right with Mary sitting on the ice. Yeah, iconic joint

1932
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:05,280
Speaker 1: like Biggie over the buildings, iconic d you know, to

1933
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 1: the man with the ship all up in his nose,

1934
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,640
Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying when you see like

1935
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 1: when you see like the putting like sports figures or

1936
01:50:14,040 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 1: like people who are models on the cover, Like are

1937
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:21,680
Speaker 1: you disappointing? Yeah? Yeah, but I'm just saying, like the

1938
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: original sort like when you look at it now, like

1939
01:50:24,240 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: you walk through an airport, you're telling man, I don't

1940
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:29,679
Speaker 1: look at it. Just doesn't It's it's a different time,

1941
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, there ain't really I don't look at no

1942
01:50:31,960 --> 01:50:35,639
Speaker 1: magazines honestly, like hip hop Weekly fits fits the format

1943
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,400
Speaker 1: of Today, but any other magazine like that, it's just

1944
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 1: a different time. Now. Everything is internet phone you know

1945
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:44,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Everything seems to be internet and phone.

1946
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: Hip Hop Weekly works because of the format of how

1947
01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:50,840
Speaker 1: US weeklies you know of like US weeklies and everything.

1948
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:53,800
Speaker 1: But you know, I just don't look at it like that. No.

1949
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: I mean, even if even if it was, I just don't.

1950
01:50:57,439 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 1: It's not in a time where it could shine anyways. Source,

1951
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:02,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It just don't. So I

1952
01:51:02,680 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: know I kind of asked you this in a different way.

1953
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 1: So what's the new move man? Are you gonna stick

1954
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:11,519
Speaker 1: with reality? Are you gonna uh continue with the with

1955
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 1: the magazine, or you guys are gonna do some phenomenal

1956
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,679
Speaker 1: thing to change the culture again it's been You're about

1957
01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:20,840
Speaker 1: to celebrate thirty years and well, look we need another

1958
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying hip Hop Weekly, TV, hip hop weely TV

1959
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,320
Speaker 1: definitely me and out thing is about to um do

1960
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 1: your own show. Um that it's the first time you

1961
01:51:31,800 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 1: heard about that. I can't cancel on that work. I can't,

1962
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 1: but I can take that makes a noise. But we

1963
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,160
Speaker 1: don't know, But I don't know but we still can't

1964
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 1: make a noise TV. We don't well we spread in

1965
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:45,720
Speaker 1: the room, but we spread in the room. Don't got

1966
01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:49,679
Speaker 1: his own TV. I'm still don't. I'm still you're still working.

1967
01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:52,439
Speaker 1: I'm still working with Carlos King on next fifteen, season

1968
01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:56,559
Speaker 1: two on TV one looking like season two years season

1969
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,639
Speaker 1: one success. And you know we're just crab trap man.

1970
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying that sind you ever

1971
01:52:01,200 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 1: think you'll be doing reality went back from back then?

1972
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 1: No hell, no help. You know, if you if you

1973
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 1: still have the source being on top, you probably be

1974
01:52:10,520 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 1: like reality is not reality, not because it's reality TV

1975
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 1: is all what you make it. See, it's it's you know,

1976
01:52:17,320 --> 01:52:19,360
Speaker 1: if you if you make yourself a fool, you will

1977
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: be gonna be You're gonna be looked on as a fool.

1978
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, By at the end

1979
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:24,680
Speaker 1: of the day, like you as long as you are

1980
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:26,600
Speaker 1: who you are, and if you don't mind who you

1981
01:52:26,720 --> 01:52:29,519
Speaker 1: are and and and comfortable with who you are, then

1982
01:52:29,640 --> 01:52:31,679
Speaker 1: you could do reality TV. Well let's make a noise

1983
01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 1: for you know, being political. You're right, you've been the

1984
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 1: brains behind the operation for ever. You would like being

1985
01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 1: you like you like you know what I mean by that?

1986
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:54,719
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what alcohol, this thing is bred

1987
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 1: all the chaser. He's a foul guy. He's my brother.

1988
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: He's also folk show. But um so I don't want

1989
01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,160
Speaker 1: to say people do something over because that's kind of corny.

1990
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:12,880
Speaker 1: But um what you think this next big endeavor that

1991
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: you you want to do yourself? Now? I mean what

1992
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,519
Speaker 1: I mean, like not what I was, you know what

1993
01:53:17,520 --> 01:53:19,800
Speaker 1: I mean, just just the next big idea for you?

1994
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:21,599
Speaker 1: What you think is that because you was the guy

1995
01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:24,719
Speaker 1: who invested in the internet and then people didn't believe

1996
01:53:24,760 --> 01:53:26,560
Speaker 1: who it didn't work at that time. But guess what,

1997
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 1: the Internet is working now. So that makes you nor Thomas,

1998
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:33,120
Speaker 1: what is your next idea? You know, I think it's

1999
01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 1: still that there's not there's not a voice for the

2000
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 1: culture in South there and and the culture is powerful

2001
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:45,280
Speaker 1: because you know, you have what they call the millennials,

2002
01:53:45,439 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 1: which is the millennials make it happen, right, Well, that's

2003
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:53,360
Speaker 1: that's the demographic that that all corporations are gonna be

2004
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:56,200
Speaker 1: targeting for the next twenty or thirty years. And there's

2005
01:53:56,320 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: ninety five million of them. There was seventy eight million

2006
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 1: baby boomers. You heard of the baby boomers, I've never

2007
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:06,360
Speaker 1: heard of where they were. They were the biggest largest

2008
01:54:06,479 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 1: previous generation in American baby boomers. Yes, yes, any hip

2009
01:54:12,760 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 1: hop that's that's really where to to be a voice

2010
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 1: for them. I think we think me a d G

2011
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 1: has filled that voice for the villenniums. Not on y'all level.

2012
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 1: We can never like the thing about it is a

2013
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,680
Speaker 1: lot of people, a lot of people. They big up

2014
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,760
Speaker 1: all podcasts because there's nineties stories and there's ninety babies

2015
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 1: that listen to it. But I could honestly say that

2016
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 1: I could never make the impact of the sources ever made.

2017
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: I could never make a system like I tried to.

2018
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 1: You know this drinking competition that we just had, you know,

2019
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:46,920
Speaker 1: do we we try to do that. We're all guests.

2020
01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 1: It's not like the fives. I'm trying to thank you Davy.

2021
01:54:52,680 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: He's a positive guy, man, how five day he's my friend, man.

2022
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,919
Speaker 1: But this just makes a noise for motherfucking the original.

2023
01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:05,800
Speaker 1: So let's make some noise. Rousino drinking all the tracers,

2024
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:08,320
Speaker 1: so now we gotta drink straight. So, man, guys, I

2025
01:55:08,360 --> 01:55:10,280
Speaker 1: want to I can't thank you're enough. Man. I know

2026
01:55:10,360 --> 01:55:12,400
Speaker 1: you guys didn't have to do that. I know you

2027
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 1: guys didn't have to fly in from l A. I

2028
01:55:14,680 --> 01:55:16,680
Speaker 1: know you guys didn't have to stop from whatever you

2029
01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:20,680
Speaker 1: guys are doing. I really appreciate it because people um that.

2030
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: Our listeners, they love these nineties stories, these eighties stories,

2031
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:27,240
Speaker 1: these two thousand stories, these two thousands and ten stories,

2032
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 1: and these hip hop stories, and that's where we cater to.

2033
01:55:30,600 --> 01:55:32,400
Speaker 1: We're not trying to get the guy who's hot. We're

2034
01:55:32,440 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 1: not trying to get the guy who's on his press run.

2035
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 1: We're not trying to get the guy who's just happened

2036
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 1: to be around. We're trying to get legends who have

2037
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: real stories. And you guys came, you participated. You never

2038
01:55:42,480 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 1: stopped us one second. As you don't sweat it for

2039
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: a minute. He jumped off the camera for a man

2040
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:49,080
Speaker 1: that he didn't stop. He came in. It has been

2041
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: a good sport and that's what this is all about.

2042
01:55:51,160 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 1: This is not about. This is about us getting together,

2043
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 1: getting drunk and telling stories. And you guys did what

2044
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,720
Speaker 1: you had to do, and I can't thank you man. Yeah, yeah,

2045
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 1: you gotta do it. Is there anything else any of

2046
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:08,080
Speaker 1: you want to say I would like, man, Man, there

2047
01:56:08,160 --> 01:56:10,080
Speaker 1: was a pleasure pleasure here and it's gonna be a

2048
01:56:10,160 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 1: part and it's gotta be a yeah. But but but

2049
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 1: also let me thank you for um uh, you know

2050
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: you're the first guy who's on my food and on

2051
01:56:23,560 --> 01:56:26,360
Speaker 1: the podcast. You know say go play once too. I

2052
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,240
Speaker 1: thought about it. Lay was to you know what I'm saying,

2053
01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:32,400
Speaker 1: but you're doing it live, then play. But um, I

2054
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:34,640
Speaker 1: can't thank you guys enough man for let me into

2055
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 1: your life. You know, um, I do it with league.

2056
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:41,720
Speaker 1: We play around with the stories and you guys are

2057
01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:44,640
Speaker 1: a great sport man. And what you guys could contribute

2058
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:47,360
Speaker 1: it to hip hop could never be replicated. Just in

2059
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:50,920
Speaker 1: case you guys didn't know, the things that y'all gave

2060
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: to hip hop, things that you gave to me personally

2061
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 1: is personally appreciated. I'm glad that I could later on

2062
01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:00,160
Speaker 1: in life call you guys my friends because you gave

2063
01:57:00,200 --> 01:57:02,680
Speaker 1: me love before you even knew me. And I'm glad

2064
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:05,720
Speaker 1: that after we guys we knew each other, we continue

2065
01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:08,960
Speaker 1: our relationship. And I appreciate you guys being a part

2066
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:11,400
Speaker 1: of this podcast. Brother, you know what I'm saying. I

2067
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:15,040
Speaker 1: appreciate it the original source, the Goose. Let's not just

2068
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: focusing on me for a second. This is the dudes

2069
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:21,200
Speaker 1: that made something that people call a hip hop bible.

2070
01:57:21,400 --> 01:57:23,480
Speaker 1: I don't care what you're doing hip hop. I don't

2071
01:57:23,520 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 1: give a funk what you try to replicate. I don't

2072
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 1: give a funk what you try to make. This is

2073
01:57:27,440 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 1: nothing that people are gonna call it the hip hop bible,

2074
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 1: my motherfucker. And listen, this is what I think. This

2075
01:57:35,240 --> 01:57:38,520
Speaker 1: is what I think. In a hundred years, the original

2076
01:57:38,680 --> 01:57:41,920
Speaker 1: Source magazines will be read like a hip hop bible.

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Speaker 1: That's what I think. God bless you, motherfucker. Good night,

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Speaker 1: God bless you. Motherfucker's we gotta some some touching ship.

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Speaker 1: And they stood here and they took the heat. It's

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Speaker 1: going down, drink chat podcast fun. I'm just going into

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