WEBVTT - The Season with Peter Schrager: Bills GM Brandon Beane

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<v Speaker 1>The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Hey, everybody, welcome to another

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<v Speaker 1>episode of the Season with Peter Schrager. We are now

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<v Speaker 1>in the second week of August. Preseason football is upon us.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a full slate of games this weekend. We already

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<v Speaker 1>had the Hall of Fame game last Thursday, the Hall

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<v Speaker 1>of Fame induction ceremonies. Hard Knocks's premiere in this week

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<v Speaker 1>Football's here, like football is here and it feels good.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you listen to this podcast, you come to

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<v Speaker 1>get your little taste of football, but also learn something new.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought one of the most interesting stories of the

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<v Speaker 1>week was that Tennessee Titans coach Mike Vrabel came out

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<v Speaker 1>and said he'll have assistant head coach and his defensive

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<v Speaker 1>line coach Terrell Williams beat a head coach in the

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<v Speaker 1>preseason opener against the Bears on Saturday, and it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like it's something that'd be on the bottom line. Taker, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's nice story. This is like an incredible realization I

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<v Speaker 1>just had and an epiphany that, oh my gosh, like

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<v Speaker 1>these preseason games mean nothing. Let assistant coaches, coach. We

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<v Speaker 1>always talk about how hard it is to get an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to showcase your skills when you're an assistant and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of climb that ladder. This is the opportunity. I

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<v Speaker 1>love this from Vrabel. So here's Terre Williams, who has

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six years of coaching under his belt, twelve in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. He's been, you know, Titans defensive line coach

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<v Speaker 1>since Vverbel got there in twenty eighteen. And now all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, you're like, all right, give an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to this guy. And over the last few years the

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<v Speaker 1>Titans and not a not a headline team by any means,

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<v Speaker 1>but their defensive lineman Jeffrey Simmons been to the Pro

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl a bunch of times. They've had undrafted guys like

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<v Speaker 1>Tierre Tart and Nikwon Jones and Jayden Peevy all make

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<v Speaker 1>the team. And one of the reasons is Big T

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<v Speaker 1>who's the coach, and you know his assistant, Clinton McMillan,

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to go and do the defensive line. Those

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<v Speaker 1>guys have been huge. And you know, we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the issue with the coaching hires and how it's usually

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<v Speaker 1>nepotism more so only offensive coaches. This is almost like

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<v Speaker 1>unlocking a key. And I didn't expect it because I

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<v Speaker 1>had not heard about it. And here Verbel drops this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, Okay, what if this was required? What

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<v Speaker 1>if every coach, and not just not the first year coach,

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<v Speaker 1>but like, say your guy like Rabel, who's a made

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<v Speaker 1>man and he's in his fifth year. Say your Andy Reid,

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<v Speaker 1>who's in your twenty something year, you know, as a

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<v Speaker 1>head coach, and you're already nearly a decade in with

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<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs. Maybe one of those three preseason games, an

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<v Speaker 1>assistant coach is the head coach and he wears the

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<v Speaker 1>hat and he gets to do it all, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>him leaving the team out in the tunnel. Here's the

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<v Speaker 1>parameters I would make it if a coach is there

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<v Speaker 1>for five years or more with a team, So five

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<v Speaker 1>years or more go through the list. That's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of coaches. At least one of those games has to

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<v Speaker 1>have an assistant coach as the head coach, and that

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<v Speaker 1>could be anyone. You could put your long time offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line coach in there. You can get your defensive coordinator

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<v Speaker 1>out there, or you can do what Mike Frabel does.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's got a defensive line coach in Terro Williams

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<v Speaker 1>handling the head coaching duties. I'm going to watch this

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<v Speaker 1>game on Saturday. Yes, Justin Field is playing, so I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see that. I also am really interested in

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<v Speaker 1>will Levis and then of course Malik Willis as well

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<v Speaker 1>from the Titan side. But I'm also curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>if we could even notice a difference if you've got

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<v Speaker 1>an assistant coach getting a chance to be a head coach.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to hear his response afterwards that that

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<v Speaker 1>was my big takeaway from this week's news. And the

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<v Speaker 1>other one was Sean Payton coming out pretty aggressively and

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard, and that's really been coach Payton's mantra this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like saying he doesn't want any guys wearing

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<v Speaker 1>Gilligan hats on preseas, which means like those bucket hats,

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<v Speaker 1>they all there. But also no in game interviews during

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<v Speaker 1>the preseason, which has become a staple of these local broadcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's not here for that. We had a really

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<v Speaker 1>spirited debate on Good Morning Football about this, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it's a preseason, like let if Jerry Judy

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<v Speaker 1>or you know you, Russell will an add to the

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<v Speaker 1>local broadcast. They get two of these, maybe three of

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<v Speaker 1>these a year. Let them interview with the local news

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<v Speaker 1>guy who's the sideline reporter, local newscal and Jason mccordy

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hell no, like get rid of that. This

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<v Speaker 1>is about getting better and the veterans should be watching.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, all right, there you go. There's the

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<v Speaker 1>ex player versus the talking head difference right there. Some

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<v Speaker 1>other quick things before we get to our guests. Who's

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<v Speaker 1>a great one one? Aaron Aaron warn Kaufman, my producer.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen Oppenheimer? I haven't yet, unfortunately not gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to the theater. I saw it last night. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>a Nolan head? Like, are you a guy who has

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<v Speaker 1>seen all the Nolan movies? And like or one of

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<v Speaker 1>those he's got people who first night they'll see it.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you gotten to most of Chris Nolan films?

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<v Speaker 2>I have, except for Tenant and surprisingly Interstellar I also

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen, which I've heard is great, but it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a Chris Nolan fan, but I'm not one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys who's rushing to the theater the first

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<v Speaker 1>night However, my wife, my son, my daughter are away.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, I had an open night. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys decided to go out and rage with their friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I call my friend and say, can we please go

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<v Speaker 1>see Oppenheimer? It's three hours long. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>have three hours open the rest of the year. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you been to the movie theater called the Ipiic in

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<v Speaker 1>South Street Seaport. No, okay. So it's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>these IMAX deals in New York City, but it's a

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<v Speaker 1>smaller theater and they serve you food, almost like the

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<v Speaker 1>Alamo Draft House, I guess, but it's like high end

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<v Speaker 1>and here's the comedy of it. So I went with

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Alex, who happens to be a Bills fan,

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<v Speaker 1>very appropriate with Who's coming on as our guest. And

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<v Speaker 1>Alex and I have seen movies together in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember we saw The Post, which was epic. We

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<v Speaker 1>saw that a couple of years back. I think we

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<v Speaker 1>saw The Big Short together, the two of us, like

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<v Speaker 1>we see movies together. Then we took our sons to

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<v Speaker 1>see Sonic together a few years back as well, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's my movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We look up at the IPIC there like there's a

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<v Speaker 1>six fifteen showing, but there's only two seats available, and

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<v Speaker 1>those two seats are on something that is basically a

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<v Speaker 1>Shay lounge, and the three of us together together, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the first row. So a three hour movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Cuddling with my friend Alex, watching the movie with my

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<v Speaker 1>neck just ninety degrees. And let me tell you something,

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<v Speaker 1>I freaking loved it. I loved it, loved it. I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. I loved it. It was awesome. There's been

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<v Speaker 1>the day after. It's what I always do. I listened

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<v Speaker 1>to all the podcasts. I'm like, all right, what are

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<v Speaker 1>the guys at the Big Picture have to say? And

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<v Speaker 1>then like Chris Ryan starts breaking it down, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>listening to Andy Greenwald and whoever else is Sean Fantasy

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<v Speaker 1>and Amanda Dobbins, and I'm like, what do they got?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I do a little deep dive on Oppenheimer

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<v Speaker 1>himself and what are the historical inaccuracies. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>spoil anything. This movie's great. Anybody who tells you that

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<v Speaker 1>the last hour is too long or drags on doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate great writing and a great reveal at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>and this final scene where it's Oppenheimer and Einstein, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's I'm not gonna spoil anything. It leaves you speechless,

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<v Speaker 1>like all these Christopher Nolan movies do with the exclamation

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<v Speaker 1>mark at the end where you're like ah, then they

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<v Speaker 1>go to the credits. I loved it, loved Oppenheimer. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>wait to discuss it with Aaron Rodgers when he sees

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<v Speaker 1>it again, because when I asked him about it, he

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<v Speaker 1>said he saw it at nine o'clock at night, which

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot do. You have to be like fully in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie moves and the cameos from not only a

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<v Speaker 1>list actors. I'm not spoiling anything, but like Remy Mallick

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<v Speaker 1>has like four lines in this movie and he's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Casey Affleck shows up and is tremendous and plays a

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<v Speaker 1>heel and is just evil in this movie and you're

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<v Speaker 1>like ah. But also guys that I haven't like, Josh

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<v Speaker 1>Hartnet has a big role. I haven't seen Josh Hartnet

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of movies lately. I love Jason Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the actor. You know him from Zero Dark thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>but you also know him from that Winning Time series.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays Jerry West. I think in that one, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's great. So just cameo's galore, familiar faces, some surprise

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<v Speaker 1>cameos at the end that you're like, is that who

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is? And it is, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>be shocked if not only is it Killian Murphy or

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<v Speaker 1>Silly and Murillian.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's yeah, I don't know. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>Silly and Murphy.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing him in that movie Red Eye with

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<v Speaker 1>like Rachel McAdams, so they going like years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>being like that guy's spooky looking. Well, he's amazing as

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Robert Oppenheimer. If he's not nominated for Best Picture,

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Downey Junior as Best Supporting Actor, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>throw in Emily Blunt as Best Supporting Actress, I would

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<v Speaker 1>be shocked. All three of them were amazing. I love

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<v Speaker 1>the film, and of course Nolan not only directed it,

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<v Speaker 1>but he wrote it. That is my recommendation. See that

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<v Speaker 1>as far as your Friday nights, can I make another

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<v Speaker 1>recommendation for everybody This Friday night, the Detroit Line announced

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<v Speaker 1>that they're going to be offering an alternate broadcast of

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<v Speaker 1>their first preseason game against the Giants on Friday night.

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<v Speaker 1>The main broadcast of course, will be on the Lions

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<v Speaker 1>TV Network and the Lions Radio Network, but yours truly

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<v Speaker 1>will be hosting the alternate broadcast on Detroit Lions dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and the Detroit Lions mobile app. I am so

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<v Speaker 1>excited for this. Here's how it's gonna work. I'm basically

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton and Eli hosting this thing. And it's a shreger cast,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, for the Detroit Lions. And I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have Lions legends and guys who work for the team

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<v Speaker 1>now and and other celebrities come on here and there,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's gonna be cool. It could be a complete bust,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be terrible, but it's an alternate broadcast. We're

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<v Speaker 1>trying things. I so appreciate the guys not only at

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<v Speaker 1>the Lions, but a company called kiss We and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be giving me this opportunity. They called me earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this summer say would you be interested in coming on

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<v Speaker 1>as a guest or a host. I'm like either one,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. The guests that we've booked for this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a heavy, heavy hitter lineup. I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>Brad Holmes, who I think has the most listens of

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast. The general manager. He's going to be coming

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<v Speaker 1>on and joining me. Chris Pielman, who is the special

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<v Speaker 1>assistant to the President and the CEO and chairperson there now,

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<v Speaker 1>but Lions legend and was also he was the analyst

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a slideline reporter for years for Fox.

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Danielson's going to be joining. He's the lead college

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<v Speaker 1>football anals for CBS, obviously doing SEC and now Big Ten.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a Lions quarterback for nine years. He's coming on.

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<v Speaker 1>Glover Quinn, who is a long term safety Golden Tate.

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<v Speaker 1>How about Jalen Rose University of Michigan, standout Detroit native,

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<v Speaker 1>diehard Lions fan coming on. Here's what I love. Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>kirk Gibson's coming on with me. Michigan state legend but

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<v Speaker 1>also a Tiger's outfielder for years and was from Pontiac, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>and all the old Darren McCarty, Red Wings right winger

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<v Speaker 1>and four time Stanley Cup champion. I love that we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting Darren McCarty on this thing. Dave Briquette, who's the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions beat writer for the Detroit Free Pest forever and

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<v Speaker 1>as a Pro Football Hall of Famer. My friend Stacy

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<v Speaker 1>Dale's NFL Network reporter, and of course we know her

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<v Speaker 1>history as a wonderful college basketball player and an All

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<v Speaker 1>American and a WNBA player for years. I'm fired up.

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<v Speaker 1>So who knows. It's seven o'clock on Detroit Lions dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be a sensation. It's Schragger Cast. It's what

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<v Speaker 1>we do. It's basically this with a bunch of guests,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm studying the depth chart for the Lions. I

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<v Speaker 1>swear I'm looking at the Lions depth chart. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know a lot of these guys, so there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of chances for me to sound stupid. But Lions fans,

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<v Speaker 1>if you enjoy this kind of banter and you enjoyed

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<v Speaker 1>my interview with Brad Holmes, check it out. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not a Lions fan and you're a Giants fan,

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<v Speaker 1>or you're just a fan of this podcast and what

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<v Speaker 1>we've got going in this kind of vibe, I would

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<v Speaker 1>say check it out. Detroit Lions dot Com the alternate

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<v Speaker 1>broadcast of the Giants Lions preseason opener for both teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's tough because they don't always not everyone

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<v Speaker 2>plays a ton, but do you have any player in

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<v Speaker 2>particular on the Lions roster you see on Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see if Gibbs plays, right, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that yeah, yeah, that just loved him. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Holmes loved him. He's a top fifteen pick.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there's other stories because like I've been doing my

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<v Speaker 1>research and I've fallen in love with a wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>who I think my play a lout in the second

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<v Speaker 1>half named Dylan Drummond. Drummond story is cool, Aaron, real

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<v Speaker 1>quick before we get to our guests here, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll like this, all right. Never was all conference in

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<v Speaker 1>anything at Eastern Michigan in the MAC. He was like

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<v Speaker 1>this under the radar. Guy doesn't get the comm bye,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing like draft weekend. He's golfing the entire time, doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>even pick up his phones. He knows he's not getting drafted.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a wide receiver. But usually when you don't get

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<v Speaker 1>drafted and you're a good player in college football, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>you'll try to get signed as an undrafted free agent.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in the hours after the draft. There's probably like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple hundred guys that happens to, where all the

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<v Speaker 1>teams are like, all right, we're gonna have ten extra

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<v Speaker 1>guys that we signed as undrafted free agents, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have him on the roster and they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to fight for a spot. He wasn't one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>So take the three hundred guys who get drafted, the

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred guys who get undrafted free and signings, that's

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred guys. He's not one of them. They have

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie mini camp tryout in the spring and he

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<v Speaker 1>shows up and he's you know, ipsil Ante is where

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern Michigan was. He shows up, plays well, three days

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<v Speaker 1>and he's about to leave and he's like, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that was that doesn't hear anything, gets a call and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, are you still in the Building's hegether? They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd like to sign you to a rookie contract just

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<v Speaker 1>to come to training camp. And so Dylan goes and

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<v Speaker 1>signs it. And to a man, I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>hype him up all too much. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if he makes the team, but everyone that I speak

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<v Speaker 1>to in Detroit is like, Dylan Drummond is crushing it,

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<v Speaker 1>like he is having a great camp. So I am

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<v Speaker 1>excited to see that guy, Dylan Drummond jersey number eighty

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<v Speaker 1>three for the Detroit Lions. I assure you no other

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<v Speaker 1>podcasts and the world is talking about Dylan Drummond right

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<v Speaker 1>now in the second week of August. Awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, Well, I'm excited to watch him now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and watch Thedetroit Lions dot Com broadcast. Plenty of

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff going on. We'll hit it throughout the next

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks, but all your teams are on this weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy it. It also means it's the end of NFL

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<v Speaker 1>Network sending people all over to camps and having them

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<v Speaker 1>in their polo shirts and the director's chair and interviewing

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<v Speaker 1>the players and getting great soundbites. It's been fun. My

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<v Speaker 1>funniest video of the week that I loved was Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Hansen from NFL Red Zone. Hi Scott Hanson. Here Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Hansen going into the Jaguars facilities men's bathroom and being

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<v Speaker 1>so impressed by the technology that they have that grades

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<v Speaker 1>your hydration. Essentially you deposit yourself Like he was using

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<v Speaker 1>crazy words. He was explaining it on this video about

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<v Speaker 1>beeing into the urinal and the urinal tells you if

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<v Speaker 1>your hydration levels are correct, and he's like, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>in the red, you gotta go see a trainer immediately.

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<v Speaker 3>You're about to see.

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<v Speaker 5>The most advanced urinals in all of professional sports.

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<v Speaker 6>Jacksonville Jaguars Headquarters.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, that's a censor that will measure your hydration level.

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<v Speaker 5>If the light turns green when you go, you're good that.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's yellow, you need to high drate some more.

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<v Speaker 5>If it's red, you're probably gonna get a notice from

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<v Speaker 5>the athletic trainers.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe have an IV.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like NFL Plus has all sorts of stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate like analytics programs and and here's a game

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<v Speaker 1>preview from this analyst. I might not click on any

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff if you told me there's a Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Hansen weekly show where he goes to different NFL facilities

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<v Speaker 1>and tries out the bathrooms and just tells us and

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<v Speaker 1>does like a review as if he's like Dave Portnoy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think Jamie heard all said it great.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, you know, one flush like instead of

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<v Speaker 1>one bite, like you know the rest of the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would be in on it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>a twitter you know, person not twot at our show

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<v Speaker 1>because we had Hanson talking about this urinal and like

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible urinal this second, like this like ai urinal

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<v Speaker 1>tells you about a Twitter person you know, hit up

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<v Speaker 1>the show and was like it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually not a terrible idea. Hanson in one stall,

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<v Speaker 1>a guess in another stall. You just have you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the two of these guys with behind closed stall. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't see their faces, we hear their voices, we hear

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<v Speaker 1>whatever else action they've got going on. And it's a

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<v Speaker 1>full interview show. It Scott Hansen from a bathroom in

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<v Speaker 1>a facility NFL plus guys, I can't just give these

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<v Speaker 1>ideas away for free. There's got to be an apartment

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<v Speaker 1>there that's working on these. This is gold, take it

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<v Speaker 1>and do what you want with it. And with that

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<v Speaker 1>we get to our guest. I really love this dude.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get them on right after this. Our next guest

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<v Speaker 1>is the man making the key decisions in the front

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<v Speaker 1>office for one of the NFL's best teams over the

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<v Speaker 1>last several years. They're a Super Bowl contender year and

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<v Speaker 1>year out, and they're a lot of people are taken

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<v Speaker 1>this year and right now we are on the eve

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<v Speaker 1>of the start of the preseason slate, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>a good time as they wrap up their training camp

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<v Speaker 1>trip out to Rochester to bring on our guy GM

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<v Speaker 1>of the Buffalo Bills, Mister Brandon, Bean Brandon, what's up man?

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing? Buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>Doing great?

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<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you having me all like always, Buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I love having you on. I think you're the first

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<v Speaker 1>recurring guest in the history of this podcast. We've had

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<v Speaker 1>lots of coaches, lots of coordinators, lots of gms, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're the first guy I've ever asked to come back

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<v Speaker 1>on because I loved how much fun we had on

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<v Speaker 1>the first one, and now you're here for the second one,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's dive right in. At this point in training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>when it's beyond hey, everybody, let's unpack our bags, when

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<v Speaker 1>you're not sleeping in your own bed and you're now

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<v Speaker 1>onto week two, is it one of those where it's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're good, like we're set, let's get the season going.

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it you wish he had a couple more

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<v Speaker 1>days to kind of work out the kinks.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, I enjoy training camp. I enjoyed up

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<v Speaker 4>here in Rochester. It's a great setup here Saint John Fisher.

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<v Speaker 4>It's you know, every team is its own team. You

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<v Speaker 4>have a lot of the same players, but every team

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<v Speaker 4>forms its own bond. And uh those teams that bond together.

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<v Speaker 4>I go back to the teams that we had success

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<v Speaker 4>on in Carolina, the team that we had that made

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<v Speaker 4>it to the AFC Championship a couple of years ago. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>those guys genuinely loved being around each other. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 4>we all know, it's not always the most talented team.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's the best team because you're gonna have adversity.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously we faced our fair share of that last season.

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<v Speaker 4>And and so this is kind of where that bond

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<v Speaker 4>really starts.

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<v Speaker 3>At camp away, you're just kind of on your own.

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<v Speaker 4>You're in drm rooms, you're you're hanging out the cafeteria,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is. So I enjoy it, but it is

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<v Speaker 4>getting to the point where, uh, you know, I know

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<v Speaker 4>the guys are starting to get tired of hitting each other,

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<v Speaker 4>and so they're ready to hit someone else. And uh

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<v Speaker 4>so and plus from my standpoint, I know that the

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<v Speaker 4>pass rushers know Dion Dawkins move or Spencer Brown's move

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<v Speaker 4>or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see them get some you know, some fresh

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<v Speaker 3>meet and how how they you? You know from that standpoint, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are one of the few teams left that

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<v Speaker 1>actually travels for training camp. Obviously the Cowboys and we

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<v Speaker 1>can name a few. The advantage of going to like

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<v Speaker 1>a college campus and being Josh Allen and von Miller

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be in dorms for two weeks. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>advantage of that though, give me the give me the

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<v Speaker 1>plus four it because I remember covering the Giants when

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<v Speaker 1>all the big fellows are argue just it was over.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all Beny, the beds are too small, and they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is just We're just we're veterans making millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we doing? What are these What are the

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<v Speaker 1>advantages of going off campus and off site and really

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<v Speaker 1>having that bonding experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I think our football ops, guys, Brendan

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<v Speaker 4>Rugs are DFO. I think they do a great job

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<v Speaker 4>of getting bigger beds in here they find so the

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<v Speaker 4>guys aren't sleeping in true dorm beds like you think

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<v Speaker 4>eat his dorm rooms. So we're not at the ritz

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<v Speaker 4>Carlton by any means. But it's not a long stretch

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<v Speaker 4>and I just think, like I said earlier, the bonding

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<v Speaker 4>having to just you know, no one's trying to rush home.

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<v Speaker 4>No one's wife's all or girlfriend or whatever. Hey, we

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<v Speaker 4>got to get home. You got to do this. It

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<v Speaker 4>just to me, it takes the pressure off of everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>Your singular focus is football here for a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>and then then you kind of return to some normalcy

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<v Speaker 4>and again building that bond. You know, Sean and I

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<v Speaker 4>both believe it's just super important for the long stretch

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<v Speaker 4>that you know, of the season of seventeen games.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine the star players don't have roommates or

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<v Speaker 1>do they.

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<v Speaker 3>No, they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we we bunked some of the young guys,

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<v Speaker 4>but no, none of the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Allen is not like.

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<v Speaker 4>Micah and Jordan there. They got their own room, so

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<v Speaker 4>they're they're in good shape from that stamp.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you mentioned last year at the end, like the adversity.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten through it a million times on our show.

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked about our pocket like there was there you

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<v Speaker 1>understandably nothing left in the tank by the end. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an excuse. It's just no team I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember in recent years has gone through a two month

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<v Speaker 1>span with all the weather stuf, and then tomorrow and

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<v Speaker 1>just straight through to the end of the season where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, God, they've gone through a lot. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like the team is refreshed or is there a

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<v Speaker 1>hangover from all that where you like can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sense that, you know, the stink of the end of

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<v Speaker 1>last year. And I don't mean to say stink, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Yea, it is still with

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<v Speaker 1>this team as we had to twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think you know, as I said, every teams

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<v Speaker 4>a new team, and it's our job to learn from

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<v Speaker 4>what Yes, there was adversity, there was things that come up,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's what you do with it and how you

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<v Speaker 4>take that and the scars of not winning. You know

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<v Speaker 4>that trophy that the Chiefs, you know won again last season.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's what you do with it, learn from

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<v Speaker 4>the mistakes, things we could have done better. Yes, there

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<v Speaker 4>was adversity, but there's things we could have handled ourselves

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<v Speaker 4>and we know that. And so this is a fresh group,

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<v Speaker 4>a new team, and so we got a fresh outlook.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's looking ahead to this season and.

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<v Speaker 4>Trying to make sure that we don't repeat, you know

0:22:04.346 --> 0:22:07.706
<v Speaker 4>the mistakes that ultimately cost us, you know, a chance

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<v Speaker 4>of the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>When we had you on last time. You took us

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<v Speaker 1>step by step through the drafting of Josh Allen and

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<v Speaker 1>how convicted you guys were, and we're gonna make this move.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get this guy. We're gonna do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>we found our guy, Dalton Kincaid. Everywhere I looked in

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<v Speaker 1>the mock drafts, everyone I talked to you said, Okay, look,

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<v Speaker 1>Kincaid and probably Myers, the Notre Dame kid, they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go in the top twenty. And then after that

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<v Speaker 1>there might be a Darnell Washington, there might be other guys,

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<v Speaker 1>but tight end position is really good up top with

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<v Speaker 1>these two guys. You're sitting there in the mid twenties

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the first round and there's Dalton Kincaid.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you take us through the drafting of Dalton Kincaid

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<v Speaker 1>from your perspective And did you ever think in a

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<v Speaker 1>million years you guys would have the opportunity to draft

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<v Speaker 1>that guy at a Utah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, we really liked Dalton a lot. We

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<v Speaker 3>tried not to get it out there.

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<v Speaker 4>We tried to keep our cards close to the vest,

0:22:57.666 --> 0:23:01.226
<v Speaker 4>and you know, you do pay attention to macks for

0:23:01.266 --> 0:23:03.786
<v Speaker 4>a lot of reasons, one to kind of prepare who

0:23:03.786 --> 0:23:04.666
<v Speaker 4>you think is gonna be.

0:23:04.666 --> 0:23:06.226
<v Speaker 3>They're not that they're gonna have every team.

0:23:06.226 --> 0:23:09.026
<v Speaker 4>But if again, if you're looking at thirty mocks and

0:23:09.466 --> 0:23:11.866
<v Speaker 4>every single one of them has a you know, Will

0:23:11.906 --> 0:23:15.106
<v Speaker 4>Anderson going before you pick, you don't really you know,

0:23:15.186 --> 0:23:17.906
<v Speaker 4>need to go too deep. It's usually pretty accurate. And

0:23:17.946 --> 0:23:22.506
<v Speaker 4>so you know, no one really was projecting Dalton. Does

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<v Speaker 4>people you know, have some guards, people had some receivers,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, And so it was kind of I felt

0:23:29.626 --> 0:23:31.906
<v Speaker 4>like we laid under the radar there from that standpoint.

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<v Speaker 4>And again probably ten days, two weeks somewhere in there,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't remember. I was, you know, you're kind of we're,

0:23:38.266 --> 0:23:40.186
<v Speaker 4>you know, our board, we're wrapping it up, and you're

0:23:40.226 --> 0:23:42.826
<v Speaker 4>looking at them, looking to see who's on our board

0:23:42.826 --> 0:23:45.546
<v Speaker 4>that we like and versus what people think is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be there.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought ten days out, I was like, we

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<v Speaker 3>got a good chance at Dalton. I really did.

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<v Speaker 4>But but then as I'm starting to do my homework

0:23:53.546 --> 0:23:55.266
<v Speaker 4>and things were running close, so I'm starting to hear

0:23:55.346 --> 0:23:58.466
<v Speaker 4>Dalton going in the teens and he's not going to

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<v Speaker 4>get past this team and you know, barely past twenty

0:24:02.506 --> 0:24:06.306
<v Speaker 4>and so at that point you're you're making, you know,

0:24:06.466 --> 0:24:10.346
<v Speaker 4>alternative plans if he doesn't get to you, you know,

0:24:10.386 --> 0:24:12.666
<v Speaker 4>whether you trade back or could someone else that you

0:24:12.906 --> 0:24:15.906
<v Speaker 4>like be there. And so ultimately, you know, I had

0:24:15.906 --> 0:24:19.066
<v Speaker 4>told you know, our ownership, you know, and Terry Bogula said,

0:24:19.306 --> 0:24:21.386
<v Speaker 4>you know, if he gets close, I may get a

0:24:21.386 --> 0:24:24.826
<v Speaker 4>little aggressive here to try and get him. And ultimately

0:24:25.266 --> 0:24:26.826
<v Speaker 4>we were able to move up a couple of spots

0:24:26.826 --> 0:24:27.466
<v Speaker 4>and get him.

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<v Speaker 1>What were the machinations of that trade? Because I remember

0:24:30.826 --> 0:24:33.786
<v Speaker 1>with Giants, Jacksonville, the Ravens, there's all these teams. Are

0:24:33.786 --> 0:24:35.706
<v Speaker 1>you on the phone calling you know, all of them

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<v Speaker 1>and saying, let's trade for the pick? Or is it

0:24:37.346 --> 0:24:38.586
<v Speaker 1>one of these where they call you and said do

0:24:38.626 --> 0:24:39.386
<v Speaker 1>you want to trade back?

0:24:39.826 --> 0:24:40.066
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:24:40.106 --> 0:24:43.106
<v Speaker 4>I mean the day of the draft, you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>had guys checking around, but I had you know, Jacksonville

0:24:47.866 --> 0:24:49.506
<v Speaker 4>was one of the teams that said they might be

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<v Speaker 4>open to move back.

0:24:53.106 --> 0:24:53.826
<v Speaker 3>The Giants.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I talked to Joe and he said, you know,

0:24:57.626 --> 0:24:59.666
<v Speaker 4>he thought they might be willing to move back.

0:24:59.706 --> 0:25:00.386
<v Speaker 3>And I said, listen.

0:25:00.466 --> 0:25:03.626
<v Speaker 4>I again, by that day, I didn't think he would

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<v Speaker 4>be there.

0:25:03.946 --> 0:25:06.026
<v Speaker 3>I said, honestly, I think we're probably going back with

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and not going up.

0:25:08.266 --> 0:25:11.346
<v Speaker 4>That was my you know, truthful feeling if I, if

0:25:11.386 --> 0:25:14.026
<v Speaker 4>I was putting odds in Vegas that I would go back.

0:25:15.266 --> 0:25:18.186
<v Speaker 4>But then it got you know, when he got past

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<v Speaker 4>like twenty one, you know, or so I was like, man,

0:25:21.226 --> 0:25:22.906
<v Speaker 4>we got a chance here.

0:25:23.026 --> 0:25:24.826
<v Speaker 1>And the run of wide receivers was starting.

0:25:24.946 --> 0:25:29.266
<v Speaker 4>It was starting, and so I called Joe and said, hey,

0:25:29.466 --> 0:25:31.666
<v Speaker 4>what do you think We'd already nailed down what it

0:25:31.706 --> 0:25:33.266
<v Speaker 4>would be so we didn't.

0:25:32.986 --> 0:25:36.826
<v Speaker 1>Have to argue beforehand. You're like, it's hypothetically, this.

0:25:36.866 --> 0:25:38.666
<v Speaker 3>Is what we're going to do. That way, we don't

0:25:38.706 --> 0:25:40.786
<v Speaker 3>have to argue about it. You're an agreement. I'm in agreement.

0:25:40.946 --> 0:25:44.466
<v Speaker 4>And he's like, well, listen, I'll do it if if

0:25:44.706 --> 0:25:47.266
<v Speaker 4>if our guy's gone or whatever. And so I'm like,

0:25:47.306 --> 0:25:51.666
<v Speaker 4>all right, well, then next thing I know, he texts me.

0:25:52.026 --> 0:25:56.186
<v Speaker 4>He goes we're moving up and he's Jackson just gotten

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<v Speaker 4>on the clock.

0:25:57.026 --> 0:25:57.426
<v Speaker 3>You're like what.

0:25:58.346 --> 0:26:03.186
<v Speaker 4>So before it was announced publicly, I started calling Trent

0:26:03.266 --> 0:26:10.746
<v Speaker 4>Balky and saying, you know, ultimately, you know, trimp I

0:26:10.786 --> 0:26:11.586
<v Speaker 4>know you're trading here.

0:26:11.666 --> 0:26:13.946
<v Speaker 3>What what will you? You know? What can we do?

0:26:14.026 --> 0:26:16.946
<v Speaker 3>And he he didn't want to trade the pick.

0:26:17.186 --> 0:26:20.986
<v Speaker 4>I really didn't, but Joe and then made their pick

0:26:21.226 --> 0:26:23.226
<v Speaker 4>and then he said, I'll call you back. And so

0:26:23.266 --> 0:26:25.426
<v Speaker 4>it went back and forth several calls, and he basically

0:26:25.466 --> 0:26:27.466
<v Speaker 4>made me tell him who we.

0:26:27.346 --> 0:26:28.986
<v Speaker 1>Were going to pick, and you had to be honest

0:26:29.146 --> 0:26:29.546
<v Speaker 1>and I had.

0:26:29.506 --> 0:26:32.346
<v Speaker 4>To shoot him straight and I would never lie in

0:26:32.426 --> 0:26:35.746
<v Speaker 4>that standpoint, from a trust standpoint, and he was nervous

0:26:35.786 --> 0:26:38.066
<v Speaker 4>about it, but he was willing to do it, and

0:26:38.506 --> 0:26:41.466
<v Speaker 4>he still got the tackle they wanted and we got done.

0:26:41.786 --> 0:26:44.026
<v Speaker 1>It's so fun. And I know I'm on the media

0:26:44.146 --> 0:26:46.706
<v Speaker 1>side and the fans listening are like, but it is

0:26:47.266 --> 0:26:50.146
<v Speaker 1>as simple as that, as Hey, you and Joe are like,

0:26:50.146 --> 0:26:52.306
<v Speaker 1>there's a chance this might happen. We've got three days

0:26:52.346 --> 0:26:54.306
<v Speaker 1>here before the draft. We're killing time. Let's work out

0:26:54.306 --> 0:26:56.066
<v Speaker 1>the deal now, as opposed to doing it on the clock.

0:26:56.426 --> 0:26:57.626
<v Speaker 1>And then he has to text you and be like,

0:26:57.626 --> 0:26:59.426
<v Speaker 1>we're actually moving up. We like bangs out of Maryland.

0:26:59.426 --> 0:27:01.666
<v Speaker 1>We're taking him. And you're like, ah, all right, It's

0:27:01.746 --> 0:27:03.426
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be such a pressure cooker to be

0:27:03.466 --> 0:27:05.306
<v Speaker 1>there and then you only get one first round pick

0:27:05.346 --> 0:27:06.986
<v Speaker 1>of year, so you don't want to mess up, and

0:27:07.026 --> 0:27:08.306
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to get it wrong, and you don't

0:27:08.346 --> 0:27:10.186
<v Speaker 1>want to regret not getting the guy and have to

0:27:10.186 --> 0:27:12.746
<v Speaker 1>think after you guys get Dalton Kincaid, who put up

0:27:12.786 --> 0:27:14.986
<v Speaker 1>huge numbers at Utah. You guys were absolutely thrilled.

0:27:15.426 --> 0:27:16.066
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were.

0:27:16.186 --> 0:27:18.546
<v Speaker 4>You know, we really liked him through the process and

0:27:19.146 --> 0:27:20.706
<v Speaker 4>just thought he'd be a great fit for here.

0:27:20.746 --> 0:27:23.386
<v Speaker 3>And and you know, he's.

0:27:22.946 --> 0:27:25.666
<v Speaker 4>A smart kid, he's still an up and commoner and

0:27:25.866 --> 0:27:28.586
<v Speaker 4>just you know, pairing him with Dawson Knox, you know,

0:27:28.666 --> 0:27:32.826
<v Speaker 4>we thought could give us another added dimension that teams

0:27:32.906 --> 0:27:33.626
<v Speaker 4>have to defend.

0:27:33.786 --> 0:27:35.826
<v Speaker 3>You know, we don't. We don't. We haven't used twelve

0:27:35.826 --> 0:27:36.466
<v Speaker 3>person al a lot.

0:27:36.546 --> 0:27:38.626
<v Speaker 4>So this gave us a chance to add that to

0:27:38.706 --> 0:27:40.946
<v Speaker 4>Ken Dorsey's you know, kind of his playbook.

0:27:41.346 --> 0:27:43.986
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're not going anywhere. You and Sean both are

0:27:43.986 --> 0:27:46.746
<v Speaker 1>pretty secure in that market, and you have this team together.

0:27:48.386 --> 0:27:51.266
<v Speaker 1>The stability of both the two of you guys together.

0:27:51.666 --> 0:27:54.186
<v Speaker 1>When you speak to your team and when you address

0:27:54.266 --> 0:27:57.186
<v Speaker 1>the the younger guys and maybe some of the veterans,

0:27:57.186 --> 0:28:00.586
<v Speaker 1>and they know that you're not going anywhere. How important

0:28:00.626 --> 0:28:02.106
<v Speaker 1>is that for you guys to come and know that, hey,

0:28:02.146 --> 0:28:04.386
<v Speaker 1>year to year, there's some consistency here. We're building something.

0:28:04.826 --> 0:28:07.026
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean it's I tell you when when I

0:28:07.066 --> 0:28:10.186
<v Speaker 4>interviewed for the job, you know, Sean was already there.

0:28:10.226 --> 0:28:12.426
<v Speaker 3>I'm interviewing with the Beagoulas.

0:28:13.306 --> 0:28:15.186
<v Speaker 4>And you know, so I'm talking to Terry and Kim

0:28:15.226 --> 0:28:17.506
<v Speaker 4>getting to know him, and one of the things I

0:28:17.506 --> 0:28:20.106
<v Speaker 4>brought up was stability. You know, I said, you know,

0:28:20.146 --> 0:28:23.586
<v Speaker 4>I felt like the AFC East teams were doing Bill

0:28:23.586 --> 0:28:26.466
<v Speaker 4>Belichick a favor by constantly turned over.

0:28:26.626 --> 0:28:27.746
<v Speaker 3>I said, you know, it's two things.

0:28:27.746 --> 0:28:31.386
<v Speaker 4>One, you haven't found a quarterback this organization since Jim Kelly.

0:28:32.066 --> 0:28:35.506
<v Speaker 4>So first and foremost, we have to start that plan,

0:28:35.826 --> 0:28:37.626
<v Speaker 4>you know, if you're going to hire me, And then

0:28:37.666 --> 0:28:40.066
<v Speaker 4>I want to know, like Kim, we this is the plan.

0:28:40.146 --> 0:28:42.986
<v Speaker 4>This is not an overnight thing. You know, as I

0:28:43.026 --> 0:28:46.786
<v Speaker 4>begin to work with Sean and we share ideas, you know,

0:28:46.826 --> 0:28:49.026
<v Speaker 4>if you're going to hire me to start working with Sean,

0:28:49.546 --> 0:28:52.546
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think we see things pretty similarly. From

0:28:52.586 --> 0:28:55.466
<v Speaker 4>from what I know about Sean. We haven't gotten deep

0:28:55.506 --> 0:28:57.906
<v Speaker 4>into the weeds. I had to get the job first.

0:28:57.946 --> 0:29:01.226
<v Speaker 4>But you know, they said, well, we gave Sean a

0:29:01.226 --> 0:29:03.546
<v Speaker 4>five year deal and we would do the same for

0:29:03.586 --> 0:29:05.866
<v Speaker 4>whoever gets this gym job. And I said, and I

0:29:05.946 --> 0:29:10.786
<v Speaker 4>hope you'll us, you know, play that out, And they said, no,

0:29:10.946 --> 0:29:13.026
<v Speaker 4>we you know, there has been a little turnover here,

0:29:13.026 --> 0:29:15.426
<v Speaker 4>but we want to be one of the franchises that's

0:29:15.466 --> 0:29:19.666
<v Speaker 4>looked at as not quick trigger, not just reacting to

0:29:19.906 --> 0:29:23.226
<v Speaker 4>you know, to media pressure, fan pressure, but doing the

0:29:23.306 --> 0:29:25.746
<v Speaker 4>right thing. And I tell you they've they've been great.

0:29:25.786 --> 0:29:28.866
<v Speaker 4>And you know, Sean and I both are very fortunate

0:29:28.906 --> 0:29:33.146
<v Speaker 4>to work for them, and they they're involved, but and

0:29:33.186 --> 0:29:35.386
<v Speaker 4>they want to know and they're doing everything that owners

0:29:35.426 --> 0:29:39.306
<v Speaker 4>should do. But they're also giving us the resources to

0:29:39.426 --> 0:29:42.466
<v Speaker 4>run the team and and and do the best we can.

0:29:42.506 --> 0:29:45.346
<v Speaker 4>And now it's on us to see if we can somehow,

0:29:45.466 --> 0:29:47.546
<v Speaker 4>you know, get this trophy finally to Buffalo here at

0:29:47.546 --> 0:29:47.866
<v Speaker 4>some point.

0:29:48.266 --> 0:29:52.026
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and those fans want it. AFC East is interesting

0:29:52.106 --> 0:29:54.346
<v Speaker 1>because for years I felt like it was just the Patriots,

0:29:54.346 --> 0:29:56.146
<v Speaker 1>and then now it's like your time. The Bills are

0:29:56.146 --> 0:30:00.346
<v Speaker 1>the team. Dolphins had a great season last year. Obviously,

0:30:00.386 --> 0:30:01.946
<v Speaker 1>you guys beat them in the playoffs. At the end

0:30:02.506 --> 0:30:05.266
<v Speaker 1>this pass offseason, the Jets loaded up. They're obviously going

0:30:05.306 --> 0:30:07.386
<v Speaker 1>to be a factor. The Patriot rates are still looming.

0:30:07.746 --> 0:30:09.946
<v Speaker 1>You look at this gauntlet and then your schedule, which

0:30:10.026 --> 0:30:12.786
<v Speaker 1>is also the NFC East. Is the AFC East as

0:30:12.786 --> 0:30:14.266
<v Speaker 1>good as it's been since you've gotten there. Do you

0:30:14.266 --> 0:30:16.346
<v Speaker 1>feel that way or is it like hell, no, we're

0:30:16.386 --> 0:30:17.866
<v Speaker 1>the team and they can come and try to get

0:30:17.866 --> 0:30:19.586
<v Speaker 1>the crown, like we don't care about what they did.

0:30:20.026 --> 0:30:22.186
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think it's from top to bottom.

0:30:22.266 --> 0:30:26.506
<v Speaker 4>It's as competitive as as you know, I can remember

0:30:26.506 --> 0:30:29.346
<v Speaker 4>it even back when I was in the NFC. Just

0:30:29.586 --> 0:30:32.826
<v Speaker 4>the Patriots dominated for so long, and so I think

0:30:32.866 --> 0:30:35.826
<v Speaker 4>everyone knew, you know, we got to, you know, make

0:30:36.026 --> 0:30:36.866
<v Speaker 4>make bold moves.

0:30:36.946 --> 0:30:38.346
<v Speaker 3>And I think all teams have done it.

0:30:39.106 --> 0:30:42.226
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Miami, you know, unfortunately too was out for them,

0:30:42.306 --> 0:30:43.386
<v Speaker 4>and they're you know.

0:30:43.346 --> 0:30:47.266
<v Speaker 3>Playing Skylar Thompson, rookie quarterback. The kid played a heck

0:30:47.306 --> 0:30:47.546
<v Speaker 3>of the.

0:30:47.506 --> 0:30:48.986
<v Speaker 1>Game played well against you guys.

0:30:49.186 --> 0:30:52.186
<v Speaker 4>Really the game was in the balance well into the

0:30:52.186 --> 0:30:56.826
<v Speaker 4>fourth quarter for US holding on and so you know,

0:30:56.826 --> 0:30:57.506
<v Speaker 4>obviously we lose.

0:30:57.586 --> 0:30:59.906
<v Speaker 3>Next week the Jets. The Jets beat us there.

0:31:00.066 --> 0:31:03.266
<v Speaker 4>It was a tight game here, you know, and now

0:31:03.266 --> 0:31:05.786
<v Speaker 4>you add an MVP guy and Aaron Rodgers just that

0:31:05.866 --> 0:31:09.426
<v Speaker 4>move along, I get it why people are picking them

0:31:09.466 --> 0:31:12.146
<v Speaker 4>to be in the Super Bowl, like it's fair. And again,

0:31:12.546 --> 0:31:14.666
<v Speaker 4>the Dolphins with Tua back, are going to be They

0:31:14.746 --> 0:31:17.186
<v Speaker 4>beat us down there with Tua, and we had a

0:31:17.226 --> 0:31:20.466
<v Speaker 4>tight game that we won, uh in Buffalo's, so I

0:31:20.546 --> 0:31:22.506
<v Speaker 4>expected to be a dogfight New England.

0:31:22.946 --> 0:31:25.746
<v Speaker 3>You know Bill Belichick, greatest coach of all time.

0:31:26.666 --> 0:31:28.586
<v Speaker 4>You had Bill O'Brien who's had a lot of great

0:31:28.586 --> 0:31:33.026
<v Speaker 4>offensive success, you know, down Obama, but in Houston and

0:31:33.306 --> 0:31:36.346
<v Speaker 4>in New England. So I don't know if there's a

0:31:36.386 --> 0:31:40.146
<v Speaker 4>tougher division. Maybe someone would argue maybe the NFC North

0:31:40.226 --> 0:31:40.666
<v Speaker 4>or something.

0:31:40.706 --> 0:31:44.986
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, maybe NFC North might be more more contested,

0:31:45.026 --> 0:31:47.986
<v Speaker 1>I would say, But as far as strength of team,

0:31:48.106 --> 0:31:50.146
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a FC North and a FC East

0:31:50.146 --> 0:31:51.066
<v Speaker 1>this year in my view.

0:31:51.266 --> 0:31:52.946
<v Speaker 3>That's that's that's the way I see it.

0:31:53.026 --> 0:31:55.386
<v Speaker 4>And again you're you're right, we're also playing, uh, the

0:31:55.506 --> 0:31:59.426
<v Speaker 4>NFC East and the Eagles. They're a tough team. The

0:31:59.466 --> 0:32:01.946
<v Speaker 4>Giants had a heck of a run. Dablon Joe done

0:32:01.946 --> 0:32:04.986
<v Speaker 4>a heck of a job there, cow Balls really good.

0:32:05.106 --> 0:32:07.026
<v Speaker 1>And then your boy Ron, Yeah.

0:32:06.826 --> 0:32:09.146
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think Marty and Ron have done a

0:32:09.146 --> 0:32:11.186
<v Speaker 4>heck of a job that team. You know, if you

0:32:11.306 --> 0:32:12.906
<v Speaker 4>just look at their you just look at their but

0:32:12.946 --> 0:32:14.986
<v Speaker 4>they've got to figure out is Sam how the guy?

0:32:15.226 --> 0:32:17.186
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know that's what they got to prove.

0:32:17.266 --> 0:32:20.906
<v Speaker 4>We we liked him as well, but you know that's

0:32:20.946 --> 0:32:22.706
<v Speaker 4>going to be a contested division, you know in the

0:32:22.826 --> 0:32:23.346
<v Speaker 4>NFC East.

0:32:23.746 --> 0:32:25.786
<v Speaker 1>A couple of questions quickly and then I want to

0:32:25.826 --> 0:32:28.546
<v Speaker 1>have some rapid fire stuff about you personally. But uh,

0:32:28.586 --> 0:32:31.186
<v Speaker 1>the von Miller like time is that does every day?

0:32:31.226 --> 0:32:33.346
<v Speaker 1>I haven't been following you guys on a dayt dabasis

0:32:33.386 --> 0:32:35.266
<v Speaker 1>are the locals asking you that every single day and

0:32:35.306 --> 0:32:36.986
<v Speaker 1>asking Sean like, what's the latest of vonn When's he

0:32:37.026 --> 0:32:39.226
<v Speaker 1>gonna be ready? Or is it pretty established in your

0:32:39.226 --> 0:32:40.906
<v Speaker 1>building that he's going to be good to go? And

0:32:41.026 --> 0:32:41.626
<v Speaker 1>he's good to go?

0:32:42.266 --> 0:32:44.786
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think we're just you know, we're definitely having

0:32:45.066 --> 0:32:48.466
<v Speaker 4>conversations not every day with vond but every week checking in.

0:32:48.546 --> 0:32:50.946
<v Speaker 4>He's doing his daily stuff with you know, our medical

0:32:50.946 --> 0:32:54.906
<v Speaker 4>team and rehab, and he's in a great spot mentally.

0:32:54.986 --> 0:32:58.586
<v Speaker 4>He's been through an ACO before, so he knows the process.

0:32:58.586 --> 0:33:01.466
<v Speaker 4>It's more than just the physical rehabit's the it's the

0:33:01.506 --> 0:33:02.346
<v Speaker 4>mental part of it.

0:33:02.306 --> 0:33:02.906
<v Speaker 3>Too, And so.

0:33:04.466 --> 0:33:07.106
<v Speaker 4>You know, we're not saying whether he could play Week

0:33:07.186 --> 0:33:08.986
<v Speaker 4>one or not not out of the question.

0:33:10.066 --> 0:33:12.266
<v Speaker 3>You know, I would you know right now, probably coin

0:33:12.306 --> 0:33:14.146
<v Speaker 3>toss is probably the best way he could.

0:33:14.226 --> 0:33:15.826
<v Speaker 1>I think you would sign up for that a couple

0:33:15.866 --> 0:33:16.466
<v Speaker 1>of weeks ago.

0:33:16.426 --> 0:33:19.346
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, I know Vaughn wants to play in it.

0:33:19.586 --> 0:33:21.546
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's still got to be clear. Doctor Cooper

0:33:21.786 --> 0:33:23.866
<v Speaker 4>out in Texas did his surgery, so he still got

0:33:23.906 --> 0:33:27.626
<v Speaker 4>to get final clearance there, and so we'll just we'll

0:33:27.666 --> 0:33:30.466
<v Speaker 4>take it slow with him. We've tried to beef up

0:33:30.506 --> 0:33:33.266
<v Speaker 4>around in case he's not ready to handle that.

0:33:33.786 --> 0:33:35.786
<v Speaker 3>But we'll probably know a little closer to the season.

0:33:35.986 --> 0:33:39.146
<v Speaker 1>Running back room is interesting. Obviously Singletary was there for years,

0:33:39.186 --> 0:33:42.146
<v Speaker 1>not there now. Around the league that was such a conversation,

0:33:42.466 --> 0:33:44.386
<v Speaker 1>And there are teams like the forty nine ers who

0:33:44.426 --> 0:33:47.626
<v Speaker 1>have Christian McCaffrey, who you know very well and is

0:33:47.626 --> 0:33:50.026
<v Speaker 1>an outstanding player and gets a lot of paid money,

0:33:50.066 --> 0:33:52.906
<v Speaker 1>and Derrick Henry and even Saquon for his one year

0:33:52.946 --> 0:33:54.946
<v Speaker 1>deal is making ten million dollars. You guys have a

0:33:54.946 --> 0:33:57.146
<v Speaker 1>different strategy with it, or you have at least I

0:33:57.186 --> 0:33:58.466
<v Speaker 1>don't know if it's by design or not, but it

0:33:58.506 --> 0:34:00.346
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem like there's a lead dog in that room.

0:34:00.386 --> 0:34:03.026
<v Speaker 1>Obviously Cook and now you got Harris from the Bill

0:34:03.146 --> 0:34:05.706
<v Speaker 1>from the Patriots. But is that a philosophical thing or

0:34:05.786 --> 0:34:07.346
<v Speaker 1>is this one of those where, hey, we'd love to

0:34:07.386 --> 0:34:09.866
<v Speaker 1>see James Cook run for eighteen hundred yards and we'd

0:34:09.866 --> 0:34:11.266
<v Speaker 1>pay him the same way or is that just how

0:34:11.266 --> 0:34:13.026
<v Speaker 1>your team is built. We're going to focus on different

0:34:13.066 --> 0:34:15.106
<v Speaker 1>positions and the running back spot is going to be

0:34:15.146 --> 0:34:15.986
<v Speaker 1>kind of a committee deal.

0:34:16.426 --> 0:34:18.506
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, listen, you always want the best players.

0:34:18.586 --> 0:34:20.426
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you're not going to turn down I was

0:34:20.466 --> 0:34:23.946
<v Speaker 4>there in Carolina we drafted Christian McCaffrey, so a heck

0:34:23.986 --> 0:34:26.786
<v Speaker 4>of a talent. You know, great move by San Francisco

0:34:26.866 --> 0:34:29.066
<v Speaker 4>kind of helped turn their season around last year. So

0:34:30.426 --> 0:34:32.906
<v Speaker 4>you're always looking to add good players like that no

0:34:32.946 --> 0:34:33.746
<v Speaker 4>matter what position.

0:34:34.426 --> 0:34:36.946
<v Speaker 3>But it is you do have to pick and choose.

0:34:38.026 --> 0:34:39.866
<v Speaker 4>You know, when you're picking at the bottom of the round,

0:34:40.066 --> 0:34:43.386
<v Speaker 4>you know your cap constraints. You're paying a quarterback. You've

0:34:43.426 --> 0:34:46.266
<v Speaker 4>got to pick some areas where you know what we'll

0:34:46.306 --> 0:34:50.386
<v Speaker 4>go with, you know, a less expensive model, whether it's

0:34:50.506 --> 0:34:55.266
<v Speaker 4>draft capital or you know, signing. You know, a veteran,

0:34:55.466 --> 0:34:58.386
<v Speaker 4>you know for you know, a reasonable price. And so

0:34:59.106 --> 0:35:01.866
<v Speaker 4>we liked how James Cook played last year, especially down

0:35:01.906 --> 0:35:04.586
<v Speaker 4>the stretch. Thought he did some really good things. And

0:35:04.786 --> 0:35:07.306
<v Speaker 4>Damian Harris has had some really good moment matter of

0:35:07.306 --> 0:35:08.546
<v Speaker 4>fact against.

0:35:08.226 --> 0:35:10.466
<v Speaker 1>Us, he said, well against you guys best.

0:35:10.226 --> 0:35:12.426
<v Speaker 4>Games, So at least I don't have to worry about that.

0:35:13.346 --> 0:35:15.746
<v Speaker 4>But hopefully he'll do that for us. And so he

0:35:15.866 --> 0:35:18.706
<v Speaker 4>just had some health hiccups along the way. That's probably

0:35:18.706 --> 0:35:22.026
<v Speaker 4>been his biggest issue, not how he plays. And Latavius

0:35:22.106 --> 0:35:24.106
<v Speaker 4>Murray had a really good year last year. We brought

0:35:24.186 --> 0:35:27.986
<v Speaker 4>him in born and raised in Syracuse, plays in Florida,

0:35:28.026 --> 0:35:30.426
<v Speaker 4>but he grew up a Bills fan, so it's been

0:35:30.506 --> 0:35:32.266
<v Speaker 4>fun to have him here a big time leader. And

0:35:32.946 --> 0:35:35.906
<v Speaker 4>we lost Nim Hines unfortunately, but we feel like we're

0:35:35.906 --> 0:35:37.906
<v Speaker 4>in good hands with these guys and we'll kind of

0:35:37.906 --> 0:35:38.546
<v Speaker 4>see how it goes.

0:35:38.786 --> 0:35:41.346
<v Speaker 1>You know, Latavius, our show has been on since twenty

0:35:41.386 --> 0:35:43.826
<v Speaker 1>sixteen when he was on The Raiders. Latavius used to

0:35:43.826 --> 0:35:45.066
<v Speaker 1>come on our show and he had such a good

0:35:45.066 --> 0:35:46.826
<v Speaker 1>time on our show. He was in New York and

0:35:46.866 --> 0:35:48.466
<v Speaker 1>asked can I come on? And he said, well, actually,

0:35:49.146 --> 0:35:51.186
<v Speaker 1>Nate Burleson's out, do you want to host, and so

0:35:51.746 --> 0:35:54.186
<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen version of Latavius Murray was a host on

0:35:54.266 --> 0:35:56.386
<v Speaker 1>our show. We had a blast, he had thoughts, he

0:35:56.426 --> 0:35:58.786
<v Speaker 1>had takes. Sure Enough, here we are seven years later,

0:35:58.826 --> 0:36:01.146
<v Speaker 1>he's on another team, and I would imagine he's going

0:36:01.186 --> 0:36:02.826
<v Speaker 1>to make the squad and he's still make an impact.

0:36:03.346 --> 0:36:04.386
<v Speaker 3>That's funny. I told him.

0:36:04.386 --> 0:36:05.946
<v Speaker 4>It was like, I thought your film was even better

0:36:06.026 --> 0:36:09.506
<v Speaker 4>last year and pore he talked about some training methods

0:36:09.506 --> 0:36:09.746
<v Speaker 4>he did.

0:36:09.786 --> 0:36:13.066
<v Speaker 3>I thought he really started on New Orleans practice squad.

0:36:13.106 --> 0:36:15.066
<v Speaker 4>They play him in a game, then Denver plucks him

0:36:15.066 --> 0:36:18.666
<v Speaker 4>and he's a big time leader. He's a big, old

0:36:18.666 --> 0:36:21.786
<v Speaker 4>school heavy body back, you know, I think a good

0:36:22.706 --> 0:36:24.706
<v Speaker 4>compliment to you know, to the other guys we.

0:36:24.666 --> 0:36:25.226
<v Speaker 3>Have in the room.

0:36:25.946 --> 0:36:28.586
<v Speaker 1>The Dig stuff, was that all just you know, people

0:36:28.626 --> 0:36:31.186
<v Speaker 1>trying to fill headlines or is everything? I mean, you

0:36:31.226 --> 0:36:33.026
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm talking about When he was tweeting and

0:36:33.106 --> 0:36:34.906
<v Speaker 1>I can't even follow it, to be honest, because I'm

0:36:34.946 --> 0:36:36.906
<v Speaker 1>just like, that's a wide receiver. Stefan Dig's a great guy,

0:36:36.946 --> 0:36:38.546
<v Speaker 1>great teammate. I'm not going to get caught up with this.

0:36:38.626 --> 0:36:40.826
<v Speaker 1>But then there was rumors that he wants out and

0:36:40.986 --> 0:36:43.386
<v Speaker 1>the Giants were interested. I don't even you tell me.

0:36:43.466 --> 0:36:45.186
<v Speaker 1>Are we all good with Stefan Diggs as we head

0:36:45.186 --> 0:36:46.706
<v Speaker 1>towards twenty twenty three.

0:36:46.946 --> 0:36:49.026
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're We're in a great I think STEP's in

0:36:49.066 --> 0:36:50.746
<v Speaker 4>a great spot. We're in a great spot. I think

0:36:50.786 --> 0:36:54.546
<v Speaker 4>sometimes you just you know, season's end end abruptly, and

0:36:55.746 --> 0:36:58.186
<v Speaker 4>when you work as hard as he or others on

0:36:58.186 --> 0:36:59.826
<v Speaker 4>this team do, and you come up short, like we

0:36:59.866 --> 0:37:02.426
<v Speaker 4>did last season, you leave frustrated. You don't get to

0:37:02.466 --> 0:37:03.986
<v Speaker 4>come back for a week and hang out and talk

0:37:04.026 --> 0:37:06.386
<v Speaker 4>about how it finished or whatever. Everybody kind of go

0:37:06.506 --> 0:37:09.506
<v Speaker 4>is their merry ways. So like anything, there can be

0:37:09.506 --> 0:37:11.066
<v Speaker 4>a lot of smoke in the off season and people

0:37:11.106 --> 0:37:13.786
<v Speaker 4>are looking for headlines. But you know, we felt like

0:37:13.826 --> 0:37:16.666
<v Speaker 4>once we kind of all sat down and shared where

0:37:16.666 --> 0:37:18.866
<v Speaker 4>we where we can get better, where we see things,

0:37:18.866 --> 0:37:21.586
<v Speaker 4>and how we're going, that we we would all get

0:37:21.626 --> 0:37:23.826
<v Speaker 4>on the same page. And I think that's that's what happened.

0:37:23.826 --> 0:37:26.706
<v Speaker 4>And Steph's had a great camp. It's been really good.

0:37:26.826 --> 0:37:29.826
<v Speaker 4>Him and Josh have you know, picked up right where

0:37:29.866 --> 0:37:33.426
<v Speaker 4>they've generally left off. And so no, we don't.

0:37:33.466 --> 0:37:34.786
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't see anything.

0:37:34.866 --> 0:37:36.706
<v Speaker 4>I think it's more I think it's more for the

0:37:36.746 --> 0:37:38.786
<v Speaker 4>outside noise than than what actually goes.

0:37:38.906 --> 0:37:40.626
<v Speaker 1>You know, there are certain morning TV shows that need

0:37:40.666 --> 0:37:42.946
<v Speaker 1>to fill three hours every day in June Brandon, so.

0:37:45.986 --> 0:37:48.666
<v Speaker 3>Turn around. But now it's been good. It's been good

0:37:48.666 --> 0:37:49.586
<v Speaker 3>to have step back in here.

0:37:49.586 --> 0:37:51.426
<v Speaker 1>All right, quick stuff about you, because I love this.

0:37:51.826 --> 0:37:53.866
<v Speaker 1>If I lived in Buffalo, I think I would weigh

0:37:53.906 --> 0:37:56.266
<v Speaker 1>six hundred pounds. And I say that just because of

0:37:56.306 --> 0:37:58.586
<v Speaker 1>the food and how good it is and the wings.

0:37:58.626 --> 0:38:01.666
<v Speaker 1>And when I came up in the in the winter

0:38:01.786 --> 0:38:03.386
<v Speaker 1>for a game, you and I got together. We went

0:38:03.426 --> 0:38:05.066
<v Speaker 1>to a spot and even remember what it was called.

0:38:05.066 --> 0:38:07.346
<v Speaker 1>We had some wings. It was fine. But then when

0:38:07.386 --> 0:38:09.066
<v Speaker 1>I said the place that we were going there, every

0:38:09.106 --> 0:38:10.666
<v Speaker 1>single person I spoke to was like, no, you gotta

0:38:10.706 --> 0:38:11.666
<v Speaker 1>go to this one. You gotta go to this one,

0:38:11.666 --> 0:38:13.626
<v Speaker 1>you gotta go to this one. Are you a wings guy?

0:38:13.706 --> 0:38:15.306
<v Speaker 1>To that point? Because you're an incredible shape and so

0:38:15.426 --> 0:38:17.786
<v Speaker 1>is Sean McDermott. And I'm wondering, how do these guys

0:38:17.866 --> 0:38:20.466
<v Speaker 1>resist being just five hundred pounds and being slobs eating

0:38:20.506 --> 0:38:21.146
<v Speaker 1>wings every night?

0:38:21.466 --> 0:38:24.106
<v Speaker 4>Well mcdermot's in a lot better shape than I am.

0:38:23.906 --> 0:38:28.386
<v Speaker 4>I'm trending the wrong way fast, just trying to tread water.

0:38:28.626 --> 0:38:30.146
<v Speaker 3>Just ask my kids. They tell me I'm fat. I

0:38:30.186 --> 0:38:30.866
<v Speaker 3>am all the time.

0:38:32.906 --> 0:38:36.506
<v Speaker 1>That term treading water is basically my August diet. Just

0:38:36.546 --> 0:38:38.706
<v Speaker 1>treaded water. Put me through it.

0:38:38.746 --> 0:38:43.546
<v Speaker 4>Man, It's it's fun. But now it's I do like wings.

0:38:43.586 --> 0:38:44.466
<v Speaker 4>I am particular.

0:38:44.786 --> 0:38:45.386
<v Speaker 1>You got a spot.

0:38:45.706 --> 0:38:48.226
<v Speaker 3>There's some good spots, but bar Bill is my spot.

0:38:48.466 --> 0:38:50.706
<v Speaker 1>Everyone says this, as there's one in Rochester too. I

0:38:50.706 --> 0:38:52.586
<v Speaker 1>think I've been tested, I've been tweeted. All right, they

0:38:52.626 --> 0:38:54.906
<v Speaker 1>just opened it, all right, commercial for barb Bill. Tell

0:38:54.946 --> 0:38:56.346
<v Speaker 1>me why it's the good. It's the best wings. Do

0:38:56.346 --> 0:38:58.826
<v Speaker 1>you go straight barbecue or buffalo or do you have

0:38:58.866 --> 0:39:02.186
<v Speaker 1>like one of these crazy like honey terry, Yucky Malibu blaze,

0:39:02.226 --> 0:39:03.186
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't do that stuff.

0:39:03.386 --> 0:39:06.106
<v Speaker 3>Cajun honey butter barbecue.

0:39:05.746 --> 0:39:10.146
<v Speaker 1>Cajun honey butter barbecue. My mouth is watering. That sounds incredible.

0:39:10.346 --> 0:39:10.586
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:10.786 --> 0:39:13.146
<v Speaker 4>Uh. They also have just regular honey butter barbecue if

0:39:13.186 --> 0:39:16.186
<v Speaker 4>you don't like. My wife likes those because she doesn't

0:39:16.226 --> 0:39:17.266
<v Speaker 4>like the spice to it.

0:39:17.386 --> 0:39:20.026
<v Speaker 3>But either one's great. I generally like the.

0:39:19.986 --> 0:39:23.186
<v Speaker 4>Little kick to mine. But they got a great Lagger

0:39:23.226 --> 0:39:26.546
<v Speaker 4>beer as well. It's just it's a great place.

0:39:26.546 --> 0:39:28.586
<v Speaker 1>But the wings are Is it crispy wing or is

0:39:28.586 --> 0:39:30.386
<v Speaker 1>it like a smothered in saucewan. I don't like a

0:39:30.466 --> 0:39:34.506
<v Speaker 1>crispy like crunch. I like a smothered in sauce wings.

0:39:34.586 --> 0:39:36.226
<v Speaker 3>More smothered in sauce.

0:39:36.386 --> 0:39:36.706
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:39:36.946 --> 0:39:39.426
<v Speaker 4>And it's just it's hard to say. They literally like

0:39:39.466 --> 0:39:43.626
<v Speaker 4>brush brush it on. It's just it's truly is.

0:39:43.226 --> 0:39:44.826
<v Speaker 1>Is like you're going there tonight. I can tell them

0:39:44.826 --> 0:39:46.106
<v Speaker 1>by the way we're talking. I think you like that

0:39:46.226 --> 0:39:48.186
<v Speaker 1>lust in your eyes thinking about it.

0:39:48.186 --> 0:39:52.026
<v Speaker 4>You're trying to to start thinking about me salivating here.

0:39:51.946 --> 0:39:53.346
<v Speaker 3>In a minute. Uh.

0:39:53.426 --> 0:39:55.986
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Your your journey, which I've talked about before, is

0:39:56.026 --> 0:39:58.146
<v Speaker 1>amazing because you didn't start off being a general manager

0:39:58.146 --> 0:40:01.066
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. You actually took a different route real

0:40:01.146 --> 0:40:05.386
<v Speaker 1>quick for the listeners, the public relation side of the

0:40:05.386 --> 0:40:09.226
<v Speaker 1>Carolina Panthers and how you made the jump because we

0:40:09.266 --> 0:40:12.026
<v Speaker 1>had Brad Holmes on earlier this summer and he told

0:40:12.106 --> 0:40:13.746
<v Speaker 1>us his story and I was so inspired by it,

0:40:13.786 --> 0:40:16.906
<v Speaker 1>same kind of thing PR of the Saint Louis Rams

0:40:17.066 --> 0:40:19.906
<v Speaker 1>and made the jump from PR to the scouting department.

0:40:19.946 --> 0:40:23.306
<v Speaker 1>Did your path if you don't mind in as long

0:40:23.346 --> 0:40:25.186
<v Speaker 1>as you want to take honest honestly. But you get

0:40:25.186 --> 0:40:26.506
<v Speaker 1>in there from the PR side, and then where do

0:40:26.546 --> 0:40:27.226
<v Speaker 1>you go from there?

0:40:27.666 --> 0:40:27.866
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:40:27.906 --> 0:40:30.746
<v Speaker 4>I did six weeks for PR, basically a training camp

0:40:30.786 --> 0:40:32.546
<v Speaker 4>that was back when training camp was six weeks.

0:40:32.546 --> 0:40:33.026
<v Speaker 3>We got there.

0:40:33.306 --> 0:40:34.786
<v Speaker 1>Where was it was it in Carolina?

0:40:34.986 --> 0:40:37.866
<v Speaker 3>It was in Carolinas. Yeah, we were Wafford College, Spartan Burks

0:40:37.866 --> 0:40:39.466
<v Speaker 3>out Wawford. Yeah.

0:40:39.586 --> 0:40:43.146
<v Speaker 4>So it was there through the whole preseason and then

0:40:44.146 --> 0:40:46.426
<v Speaker 4>and then moved over to football Ops for the season.

0:40:46.466 --> 0:40:48.306
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of doing a little bit of player development.

0:40:48.546 --> 0:40:51.386
<v Speaker 4>I was helping the equipment guys, like I was folding tiles,

0:40:51.426 --> 0:40:54.226
<v Speaker 4>helping a practice. And then halfway through the season they

0:40:54.226 --> 0:40:56.226
<v Speaker 4>started traveling me on the road to help the equipment guys.

0:40:56.266 --> 0:41:00.186
<v Speaker 4>I'm holding rain jackets and things for the guys that

0:41:00.306 --> 0:41:02.586
<v Speaker 4>rub their cleats all and like whatever need to be done.

0:41:02.666 --> 0:41:04.906
<v Speaker 4>You just it's all hands on deck. And then after

0:41:04.946 --> 0:41:07.466
<v Speaker 4>that season they hired me full time as a football

0:41:07.466 --> 0:41:11.186
<v Speaker 4>ops assistant, you know, helping set up training camp, lining

0:41:11.266 --> 0:41:14.346
<v Speaker 4>up travel, picking guys up at the airport, taking them

0:41:14.346 --> 0:41:15.226
<v Speaker 4>for physicals.

0:41:15.386 --> 0:41:17.546
<v Speaker 1>Who is your most notable pick up at the airport

0:41:17.546 --> 0:41:19.426
<v Speaker 1>when like a big name free agent came in, Do

0:41:19.426 --> 0:41:20.146
<v Speaker 1>you have a good story.

0:41:20.346 --> 0:41:23.986
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I had the funniest visit ever. I had

0:41:24.026 --> 0:41:26.906
<v Speaker 3>a few. But we brought in on the same day

0:41:27.026 --> 0:41:28.946
<v Speaker 3>Charles Haley and Nate Newton.

0:41:30.706 --> 0:41:31.266
<v Speaker 1>Carolina.

0:41:31.306 --> 0:41:34.106
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember this to Carolina. So Charles Haley did

0:41:34.106 --> 0:41:36.946
<v Speaker 3>not sign. I think he ended up signing Detroit, but

0:41:36.986 --> 0:41:39.106
<v Speaker 3>we signed Nate Newton. That was his last year.

0:41:39.506 --> 0:41:42.386
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So they both get off the same flight from Dallas,

0:41:42.386 --> 0:41:43.106
<v Speaker 1>like where are they?

0:41:43.226 --> 0:41:45.226
<v Speaker 4>They were not on the same flight, but they knew

0:41:45.266 --> 0:41:47.666
<v Speaker 4>each other. But they Oh, they obviously knew each other.

0:41:49.066 --> 0:41:51.826
<v Speaker 4>If you had like one of those cameras in a van.

0:41:52.266 --> 0:41:54.146
<v Speaker 4>I can't repeat all what was said.

0:41:55.306 --> 0:41:55.906
<v Speaker 3>Uh, there was.

0:41:56.146 --> 0:41:59.146
<v Speaker 4>There was a lot of stuff, but it was We

0:41:59.186 --> 0:42:00.386
<v Speaker 4>had a lot of laughs.

0:42:00.546 --> 0:42:01.506
<v Speaker 3>And uh it was.

0:42:01.506 --> 0:42:03.946
<v Speaker 4>Cool because as a kid, I'm watching these guys grow

0:42:04.026 --> 0:42:06.626
<v Speaker 4>up fresh out of college and I'm taking a for

0:42:06.666 --> 0:42:07.786
<v Speaker 4>a physical and.

0:42:07.706 --> 0:42:09.146
<v Speaker 3>They're busting each other's chops.

0:42:09.146 --> 0:42:11.826
<v Speaker 4>They're telling stories again because they were back together, and

0:42:13.266 --> 0:42:15.986
<v Speaker 4>I spent an evening, you know, getting them to the

0:42:15.986 --> 0:42:18.226
<v Speaker 4>hotel and I picked them up at like six thirty

0:42:18.226 --> 0:42:20.786
<v Speaker 4>in the morning, take them for the physical, they meet

0:42:20.826 --> 0:42:23.106
<v Speaker 4>the coach, then I take them for lunch, and then

0:42:23.146 --> 0:42:25.066
<v Speaker 4>they go back and meet some meet some more coaches,

0:42:25.066 --> 0:42:28.226
<v Speaker 4>and I take them back to the airport and basically

0:42:28.306 --> 0:42:30.386
<v Speaker 4>Nate Newton's telling them, hey, man, I'm gonna sign here.

0:42:30.386 --> 0:42:33.786
<v Speaker 4>I love it here, and Charles Haley He's trying to

0:42:33.786 --> 0:42:36.226
<v Speaker 4>talk Charles Haley into it and I love this ba

0:42:36.346 --> 0:42:38.706
<v Speaker 4>and forth, and so I go back and report to

0:42:39.506 --> 0:42:40.826
<v Speaker 4>Marty Hernie what the deal is.

0:42:40.866 --> 0:42:42.706
<v Speaker 3>I'm telling Marty like, well, I think.

0:42:42.586 --> 0:42:45.026
<v Speaker 1>Newton's in fence.

0:42:45.266 --> 0:42:47.306
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's trying to convince him.

0:42:47.666 --> 0:42:52.546
<v Speaker 4>And so it was definitely we covered some r rated

0:42:52.626 --> 0:42:55.826
<v Speaker 4>and beyond of their life, but it was that was

0:42:55.826 --> 0:42:58.586
<v Speaker 4>probably the most notable. But I picked up Reggie White

0:42:58.626 --> 0:43:01.426
<v Speaker 4>as well from that, right, Yeah, yeah, he finished in

0:43:01.466 --> 0:43:04.306
<v Speaker 4>Carolina as well. One of the nicest.

0:43:03.866 --> 0:43:08.546
<v Speaker 3>People in the world, and it was sad that his

0:43:08.626 --> 0:43:09.626
<v Speaker 3>life and the way it did.

0:43:09.666 --> 0:43:13.146
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, he was telling me get him, get him

0:43:13.146 --> 0:43:14.666
<v Speaker 4>out there, pick him up early. He wanted to get

0:43:14.706 --> 0:43:17.506
<v Speaker 4>in the hot tub for forty minutes to get himself loose,

0:43:17.586 --> 0:43:20.106
<v Speaker 4>and yes, you know, it's just it was cool. So

0:43:20.226 --> 0:43:22.066
<v Speaker 4>definitely had some some characters.

0:43:22.346 --> 0:43:22.866
<v Speaker 3>Eric Swan.

0:43:23.386 --> 0:43:25.906
<v Speaker 1>Eric Swan, which is one of my favorite football stories

0:43:25.906 --> 0:43:27.826
<v Speaker 1>of all time, did not play college football with a

0:43:27.866 --> 0:43:29.546
<v Speaker 1>six overall pick from the cars.

0:43:29.866 --> 0:43:32.106
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I was around some cool news. It was

0:43:32.666 --> 0:43:33.786
<v Speaker 3>it was fun. You learn a lot.

0:43:33.986 --> 0:43:37.066
<v Speaker 1>You also knew a young Steve Smith, right, Yes, yes

0:43:37.426 --> 0:43:40.226
<v Speaker 1>it was young. What was twenty something? Steve Smith like.

0:43:42.466 --> 0:43:46.866
<v Speaker 3>Even more unfiltered, That's what I would say. But I

0:43:46.906 --> 0:43:47.266
<v Speaker 3>love him.

0:43:47.586 --> 0:43:50.706
<v Speaker 4>His heart was always genuine. You knew where Steve never

0:43:50.906 --> 0:43:54.226
<v Speaker 4>hid how he felt. Still really doesn't today. But I

0:43:54.226 --> 0:43:57.786
<v Speaker 4>would say, Steve, you're still getting a filtered version of Steve.

0:43:58.466 --> 0:44:01.146
<v Speaker 4>I've seen many unfiltered versions. In the two thousand and

0:44:01.146 --> 0:44:02.866
<v Speaker 4>one was as unfiltered as a game.

0:44:03.386 --> 0:44:05.786
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love all this stuff. Your one piece of

0:44:05.826 --> 0:44:08.826
<v Speaker 1>advice to a kid who approaches you in the elevator

0:44:08.826 --> 0:44:10.866
<v Speaker 1>at the combine and says, excuse me, stir. Here's my

0:44:10.946 --> 0:44:13.866
<v Speaker 1>resume printed out. I'm twenty two years old. I just

0:44:13.906 --> 0:44:17.226
<v Speaker 1>graduated from John Carroll or I went to Amhurst, and

0:44:17.226 --> 0:44:18.626
<v Speaker 1>I want to get into being a GM and I

0:44:18.706 --> 0:44:20.986
<v Speaker 1>drove myself to Indianapolis. What would be your one piece

0:44:20.986 --> 0:44:23.106
<v Speaker 1>of advice for me getting into the league.

0:44:23.666 --> 0:44:26.306
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean to me, it is hard, it really is.

0:44:26.386 --> 0:44:30.386
<v Speaker 4>But go get experience wherever you're at. If you're in college,

0:44:30.866 --> 0:44:32.666
<v Speaker 4>go work in the athletic office. If you've got a

0:44:32.706 --> 0:44:34.906
<v Speaker 4>football program there, go work for there. If you've got

0:44:34.946 --> 0:44:38.186
<v Speaker 4>a minor league baseball team in town, like, just get

0:44:38.266 --> 0:44:41.226
<v Speaker 4>skins on the wall. Work with different people. A You're

0:44:41.226 --> 0:44:44.386
<v Speaker 4>going to meet different people from different walks of life.

0:44:44.546 --> 0:44:47.906
<v Speaker 4>You may work with someone in an NBA team that

0:44:47.946 --> 0:44:51.386
<v Speaker 4>actually knows someone in the NFL, or a tripa a

0:44:51.546 --> 0:44:54.826
<v Speaker 4>baseball team that knows someone in the NBA or the NFL,

0:44:54.906 --> 0:44:58.106
<v Speaker 4>whatever it is. Just get out there, work. Don't worry

0:44:58.106 --> 0:45:00.626
<v Speaker 4>about the money. Tell people that do not worry about

0:45:00.626 --> 0:45:03.026
<v Speaker 4>the money. If you want to be in sports, don't

0:45:03.106 --> 0:45:06.666
<v Speaker 4>chase the money. Yes, I'm fortunate now, but this was

0:45:06.706 --> 0:45:10.666
<v Speaker 4>a long shot here. I enjoyed every step of the journey.

0:45:10.706 --> 0:45:13.466
<v Speaker 4>And if I was, you know, still a football office

0:45:13.506 --> 0:45:17.626
<v Speaker 4>assistant or you know, director of football operations, whatever titles

0:45:17.706 --> 0:45:20.146
<v Speaker 4>I've had, I guarantee I would have been just as

0:45:20.186 --> 0:45:22.186
<v Speaker 4>happy life I was living.

0:45:22.226 --> 0:45:24.426
<v Speaker 3>So you gotta love it. It's crazy hours.

0:45:25.226 --> 0:45:27.786
<v Speaker 4>You got to make sure if you're getting married, girl,

0:45:27.826 --> 0:45:29.506
<v Speaker 4>you know, a wife or husband or whatever it is,

0:45:29.546 --> 0:45:33.386
<v Speaker 4>that they are on board the weekends, because I've seen

0:45:33.426 --> 0:45:36.666
<v Speaker 4>many get in a few years in their their their

0:45:36.706 --> 0:45:40.146
<v Speaker 4>other half does not like the schedule, and it starts

0:45:40.186 --> 0:45:42.506
<v Speaker 4>causing some friction and they got to make a move.

0:45:42.666 --> 0:45:44.786
<v Speaker 4>So just try to tell them to be upfront with

0:45:44.826 --> 0:45:49.506
<v Speaker 4>whoever their significant other is and and you know, just

0:45:49.506 --> 0:45:51.666
<v Speaker 4>just be ready for if you're living in one side

0:45:51.666 --> 0:45:53.546
<v Speaker 4>of the country and someone calls you the other side,

0:45:53.666 --> 0:45:57.546
<v Speaker 4>be able to apartment up in a day and say I'll.

0:45:57.346 --> 0:45:59.826
<v Speaker 1>Be there tomorrow, Brandon, I love this. And back to

0:45:59.826 --> 0:46:02.626
<v Speaker 1>the significant other thing. Here's what I've learned now that

0:46:02.626 --> 0:46:05.666
<v Speaker 1>I've got two kids and you've obviously your great dad.

0:46:05.706 --> 0:46:08.306
<v Speaker 1>Be present when you are around, right, make the most

0:46:08.346 --> 0:46:11.026
<v Speaker 1>of that time, because that's a major compromise. I'm not

0:46:11.066 --> 0:46:12.106
<v Speaker 1>going to be you know, I'm not going to be

0:46:12.146 --> 0:46:14.506
<v Speaker 1>there for any weekends over the football season. But hey,

0:46:15.106 --> 0:46:16.746
<v Speaker 1>I've got a rare job where there are a couple

0:46:16.786 --> 0:46:19.186
<v Speaker 1>of weeks in June in early July where I am around,

0:46:19.266 --> 0:46:20.746
<v Speaker 1>Like it, wouldn't you be that? That be your piece

0:46:20.746 --> 0:46:22.186
<v Speaker 1>of advice to make the most of that time.

0:46:22.506 --> 0:46:25.306
<v Speaker 4>Oh, you got to, you could, because you're going to

0:46:25.346 --> 0:46:28.266
<v Speaker 4>be a better employee for the organization if if your

0:46:28.266 --> 0:46:31.186
<v Speaker 4>home life's good and you're doing everything there, if you're

0:46:31.466 --> 0:46:33.546
<v Speaker 4>if you're leaving things out and you don't want to

0:46:33.586 --> 0:46:35.826
<v Speaker 4>regret We've seen it in this in this sport where

0:46:36.226 --> 0:46:40.866
<v Speaker 4>you hear coaches or you know whatever, executives that didn't

0:46:40.906 --> 0:46:43.466
<v Speaker 4>wann't really around their kids and they missed their whole

0:46:43.626 --> 0:46:45.706
<v Speaker 4>their whole livelihood or they're you know, watching them play

0:46:45.746 --> 0:46:49.146
<v Speaker 4>sports or play the piano or whatever their passion, whatever

0:46:49.146 --> 0:46:50.186
<v Speaker 4>their kids passion is.

0:46:51.066 --> 0:46:52.386
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's very important for me to.

0:46:52.586 --> 0:46:54.426
<v Speaker 4>Make sure to tell our staff here, and I know

0:46:54.546 --> 0:46:57.626
<v Speaker 4>Sean does as well as Listen, we got plenty of hours,

0:46:57.626 --> 0:46:59.266
<v Speaker 4>but if your kids playing a game and you can

0:46:59.266 --> 0:47:00.946
<v Speaker 4>get there, it's not going to interfere with this job.

0:47:01.866 --> 0:47:04.346
<v Speaker 4>I expect you to be there. It will be pissed

0:47:04.346 --> 0:47:04.906
<v Speaker 4>if you If.

0:47:04.826 --> 0:47:05.746
<v Speaker 1>You do, I love that.

0:47:06.106 --> 0:47:07.386
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So it's you.

0:47:07.426 --> 0:47:10.426
<v Speaker 4>Gotta you gotta have that that that balance because it's

0:47:10.466 --> 0:47:12.386
<v Speaker 4>hard enough as it is with the hour. So when

0:47:12.426 --> 0:47:14.706
<v Speaker 4>you can get home and support your you know, your

0:47:15.066 --> 0:47:19.106
<v Speaker 4>significant other and definitely your kids, that's huge.

0:47:19.226 --> 0:47:19.386
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:47:19.586 --> 0:47:21.786
<v Speaker 4>The last thing you want to do is be great

0:47:21.826 --> 0:47:24.106
<v Speaker 4>at work and screw it up at home.

0:47:24.306 --> 0:47:27.466
<v Speaker 1>Man, that's great. My last one with you because I

0:47:27.506 --> 0:47:29.706
<v Speaker 1>texted you earlier this summer that I'm picking up golf

0:47:29.706 --> 0:47:32.306
<v Speaker 1>for the first time. I've told the podcast listeners my

0:47:32.346 --> 0:47:35.226
<v Speaker 1>wife has a gift bought me clubs. I got the

0:47:35.226 --> 0:47:37.426
<v Speaker 1>clubs I got in the course, and I've been trying

0:47:37.426 --> 0:47:39.466
<v Speaker 1>to mooch off people to be invited to their clubs.

0:47:39.506 --> 0:47:41.466
<v Speaker 1>I've played the public courses. I've done it all. I've

0:47:41.466 --> 0:47:45.386
<v Speaker 1>been trying. I'm terrible. But you you've always been playing.

0:47:45.386 --> 0:47:47.626
<v Speaker 1>So I'm gonna ask you three golf questions. Rattle them

0:47:47.626 --> 0:47:51.946
<v Speaker 1>off rapid fire. One your favorite golfer at the moment

0:47:52.146 --> 0:47:52.546
<v Speaker 1>is home.

0:47:53.906 --> 0:47:56.386
<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a great one.

0:47:56.666 --> 0:48:00.946
<v Speaker 4>Probably Rory. Yeah, yeah, big Rory fan. And he's actually

0:48:02.226 --> 0:48:03.946
<v Speaker 4>his wife from Rochester.

0:48:03.586 --> 0:48:07.106
<v Speaker 3>Up here and really yeah and her family.

0:48:07.106 --> 0:48:09.026
<v Speaker 4>Thanks for Okilla, And I think he is a member

0:48:09.386 --> 0:48:12.466
<v Speaker 4>here at o'kill across the streets. So I've enjoyed watching

0:48:12.466 --> 0:48:14.346
<v Speaker 4>his game and I think it's it's been cool to

0:48:14.346 --> 0:48:15.826
<v Speaker 4>watch him Back to PGA.

0:48:15.586 --> 0:48:18.666
<v Speaker 1>Tour, I love it. The coolest course you've played at.

0:48:19.706 --> 0:48:22.026
<v Speaker 3>It's I go back and forth.

0:48:22.066 --> 0:48:25.626
<v Speaker 4>I mean in America, Pebble Beach, just it's just so beautiful.

0:48:25.666 --> 0:48:28.786
<v Speaker 4>It's not the hardest, but just the scenery is It's crazy.

0:48:28.786 --> 0:48:32.106
<v Speaker 4>But went to Scotland last summer, did you? And eight

0:48:32.146 --> 0:48:35.026
<v Speaker 4>of us went over there and the courses over there,

0:48:35.066 --> 0:48:36.866
<v Speaker 4>I mean, all of them are great, but there's a

0:48:36.906 --> 0:48:41.186
<v Speaker 4>couple that were just kings barns over there.

0:48:41.226 --> 0:48:43.146
<v Speaker 3>Was was was amazing.

0:48:43.146 --> 0:48:45.586
<v Speaker 4>There was there was a few that were just you know,

0:48:45.666 --> 0:48:47.066
<v Speaker 4>blow your blow your socks off.

0:48:47.626 --> 0:48:49.546
<v Speaker 3>I loved if you could tell me I.

0:48:49.506 --> 0:48:53.066
<v Speaker 4>Can go anywhere to play golf for a week right now, Scotland.

0:48:53.146 --> 0:48:55.306
<v Speaker 3>I would go right back to Scotland really and do

0:48:55.386 --> 0:48:57.466
<v Speaker 3>that again. It's it's did I see.

0:48:57.266 --> 0:48:59.226
<v Speaker 1>That the Ryder Cup is in Italy this year?

0:49:00.466 --> 0:49:01.826
<v Speaker 3>I don't know it made someone said that.

0:49:02.346 --> 0:49:05.306
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that sounds cool. So uh, back to the Scout.

0:49:05.506 --> 0:49:07.826
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever played on I assume you've been to

0:49:07.866 --> 0:49:09.986
<v Speaker 1>the Masters because I see Josh Allen there all the time.

0:49:09.986 --> 0:49:11.906
<v Speaker 1>I figure he's taking his GM who's paying hie hundred

0:49:11.906 --> 0:49:13.706
<v Speaker 1>million dollars, He's going to take you as a guest, right.

0:49:14.306 --> 0:49:15.986
<v Speaker 4>I have not gotten to play it, but I have.

0:49:17.586 --> 0:49:22.026
<v Speaker 4>I did meet someone this year, you know, through someone

0:49:22.026 --> 0:49:25.906
<v Speaker 4>at the Kentucky Derby and they're planning to take me

0:49:25.906 --> 0:49:26.226
<v Speaker 4>out there.

0:49:26.466 --> 0:49:27.226
<v Speaker 3>You know I was going to do it.

0:49:27.266 --> 0:49:29.026
<v Speaker 4>I actually doing a pot I did a podcast with

0:49:29.146 --> 0:49:30.186
<v Speaker 4>him that's coming out later.

0:49:31.426 --> 0:49:33.866
<v Speaker 1>So whatever, don't any money, let me just come.

0:49:34.066 --> 0:49:34.786
<v Speaker 3>That was the deal.

0:49:34.826 --> 0:49:38.666
<v Speaker 4>Do the podcast and we would go out to uh Augustus.

0:49:38.706 --> 0:49:41.346
<v Speaker 4>So that's supposedly coming up sometime in the next twelve months.

0:49:41.426 --> 0:49:43.146
<v Speaker 1>Dude, I can't wait. And my last one with the

0:49:43.146 --> 0:49:45.706
<v Speaker 1>golf because I think when Nick, you know, I'm a casual,

0:49:46.386 --> 0:49:48.986
<v Speaker 1>your real deal. What's the best round you've ever played?

0:49:48.986 --> 0:49:49.866
<v Speaker 1>And where did you play it?

0:49:50.626 --> 0:49:53.266
<v Speaker 4>The best round was sixty nine. It was a country

0:49:53.266 --> 0:49:55.706
<v Speaker 4>club in Buffalo back here. I shot it in the

0:49:55.786 --> 0:49:58.066
<v Speaker 4>summer of twenty eighteen. It was my second summer.

0:49:58.306 --> 0:50:01.026
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, at double bogie the first hole, Did you really.

0:50:00.946 --> 0:50:02.306
<v Speaker 1>Because I was going to say, like, when you have

0:50:02.346 --> 0:50:03.666
<v Speaker 1>a round like that, do you even have room for

0:50:03.706 --> 0:50:05.866
<v Speaker 1>a bogie or is it just par park the whole way?

0:50:05.946 --> 0:50:10.666
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, screwed up and bladed a sandwich on the first

0:50:10.706 --> 0:50:13.506
<v Speaker 4>hole across the green and ended up making double and

0:50:13.986 --> 0:50:16.226
<v Speaker 4>after that I had no blem issues. I had three

0:50:16.226 --> 0:50:18.306
<v Speaker 4>birdies after that to get It's a par seventy, so

0:50:18.346 --> 0:50:18.946
<v Speaker 4>I got got.

0:50:18.866 --> 0:50:19.666
<v Speaker 3>It back to one under.

0:50:20.146 --> 0:50:21.306
<v Speaker 1>Have you read a home on one?

0:50:21.866 --> 0:50:22.986
<v Speaker 3>Yes, two thousand and eight.

0:50:23.946 --> 0:50:26.026
<v Speaker 1>Look, if I asked you, like, who was the third

0:50:26.106 --> 0:50:28.186
<v Speaker 1>round picker that you guys had last year, you might

0:50:28.226 --> 0:50:30.466
<v Speaker 1>you might you might stumble No. Two thousand and eight.

0:50:30.586 --> 0:50:31.186
<v Speaker 1>Where was it?

0:50:31.506 --> 0:50:34.266
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a place called the Witch. It's down

0:50:34.306 --> 0:50:38.266
<v Speaker 4>in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. So I was playing with

0:50:38.306 --> 0:50:41.266
<v Speaker 4>a few guys down there, and yeah, it was. It

0:50:41.306 --> 0:50:42.746
<v Speaker 4>was on the back now I think it was Hold

0:50:42.946 --> 0:50:47.426
<v Speaker 4>twelve was one hundred and sixty yards and the guys

0:50:47.426 --> 0:50:49.026
<v Speaker 4>in the group's all going before I did.

0:50:49.066 --> 0:50:50.066
<v Speaker 3>I thought they were messing with me.

0:50:50.266 --> 0:50:52.866
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I gotcha, I started it was.

0:50:52.906 --> 0:50:53.386
<v Speaker 3>It was wild.

0:50:53.706 --> 0:50:55.746
<v Speaker 1>The parallels of playing golf and being a GM are

0:50:55.786 --> 0:50:57.666
<v Speaker 1>there any? Do you see any similarities? Or is this

0:50:57.706 --> 0:50:59.426
<v Speaker 1>your total? You know, take your foot off the pedal.

0:50:59.426 --> 0:51:00.426
<v Speaker 1>That's where you go to escape.

0:51:00.986 --> 0:51:02.266
<v Speaker 3>It is where I go to escape.

0:51:02.306 --> 0:51:05.306
<v Speaker 4>I mean you listen, like in anything that you that

0:51:05.386 --> 0:51:07.346
<v Speaker 4>you want to be good at, to be mentally tough,

0:51:07.386 --> 0:51:08.946
<v Speaker 4>and you're gonna have adversity.

0:51:08.946 --> 0:51:10.386
<v Speaker 3>You can have adversity on the course. You can have

0:51:10.506 --> 0:51:11.746
<v Speaker 3>adversity in this job, and.

0:51:11.666 --> 0:51:16.306
<v Speaker 4>So just find the positive from it and learn from

0:51:16.346 --> 0:51:17.066
<v Speaker 4>what you did wrong.

0:51:17.106 --> 0:51:18.826
<v Speaker 3>And so those are probably the parallels.

0:51:19.066 --> 0:51:22.106
<v Speaker 1>Love it, Brandon, No thirty five minutes, Just like that.

0:51:22.466 --> 0:51:24.706
<v Speaker 1>Appreciate it, bro, fantastic.

0:51:24.466 --> 0:51:27.906
<v Speaker 3>Easy, always easy with you, buddy, anytime you know that great.

0:51:28.306 --> 0:51:29.826
<v Speaker 1>I've got to make my super Bowl pick in the

0:51:29.866 --> 0:51:31.706
<v Speaker 1>next couple of weeks. It might be Bills, it might

0:51:31.706 --> 0:51:33.026
<v Speaker 1>not be, but you don't hold it against me when

0:51:33.026 --> 0:51:35.786
<v Speaker 1>it's not right. No, no, no, it's usually wrong anyway.

0:51:36.266 --> 0:51:39.746
<v Speaker 4>Actually, yeah, everybody picked us last year, so I just

0:51:39.786 --> 0:51:41.386
<v Speaker 4>assumed nobody pick us, and let's just.

0:51:41.306 --> 0:51:44.506
<v Speaker 1>Be probably better off. Let's go play football. Bill's Jets

0:51:44.546 --> 0:51:46.546
<v Speaker 1>Monday night, Week one. Brandon Bean, you'll be up in

0:51:46.546 --> 0:51:49.226
<v Speaker 1>that in that booth watching with your binoculars. I'm sure

0:51:49.226 --> 0:51:51.146
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you on the broadcast and hopefully i'll see

0:51:51.146 --> 0:51:53.586
<v Speaker 1>you there. You're the man. Thanks for joining GM and

0:51:53.586 --> 0:51:54.826
<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Bills. Brandon Bean.

0:51:55.666 --> 0:51:57.346
<v Speaker 3>Thanks, Peter, I'll see you so, buddy.

0:52:17.906 --> 0:52:20.866
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Bean's the man. I love having him on and

0:52:20.906 --> 0:52:22.706
<v Speaker 1>I'm rooting for him, I really am. I feel like

0:52:22.746 --> 0:52:24.306
<v Speaker 1>a Bill super Bowl one of these years would be

0:52:24.386 --> 0:52:26.466
<v Speaker 1>a great thing for the city, but also for that guy,

0:52:26.466 --> 0:52:29.466
<v Speaker 1>as you could tell, good friend of mine and a great,

0:52:29.786 --> 0:52:33.626
<v Speaker 1>great evaluator. Another good friend of mine is on the

0:52:33.666 --> 0:52:37.386
<v Speaker 1>phone at the moment. Yes, the phone. He doesn't do zoom,

0:52:37.426 --> 0:52:39.626
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't do riverside, he doesn't do any of these things.

0:52:39.666 --> 0:52:42.026
<v Speaker 1>He does the phone. And then we have to use

0:52:42.066 --> 0:52:43.706
<v Speaker 1>his audio from the phone. Whould drop it And it's

0:52:43.706 --> 0:52:45.626
<v Speaker 1>one of my best friends from growing up, and he's

0:52:45.626 --> 0:52:47.626
<v Speaker 1>been a regular guest during the football season. You haven't

0:52:47.626 --> 0:52:50.106
<v Speaker 1>heard from a much. It's my buddy, Dietro Deetro. What's up, man,

0:52:50.546 --> 0:52:51.386
<v Speaker 1>Peter Schrager.

0:52:51.746 --> 0:52:54.346
<v Speaker 7>Thanks for having me back again. Every time I'm on,

0:52:54.426 --> 0:52:57.426
<v Speaker 7>it's always a tough follow. Now I'm following Brandon Bean.

0:52:57.786 --> 0:53:00.466
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Bean's an Executive of the Year, one of the

0:53:00.546 --> 0:53:03.466
<v Speaker 1>greatest GMS in the last twenty years. And now here

0:53:03.466 --> 0:53:05.546
<v Speaker 1>you are a childhood pala mine and you are the

0:53:06.026 --> 0:53:07.906
<v Speaker 1>main event or the dessert, however you want to put it.

0:53:07.906 --> 0:53:09.626
<v Speaker 1>But I want to bring you on specifically, not for

0:53:09.666 --> 0:53:11.466
<v Speaker 1>your football thoughts. I know you've got football thoughts. I

0:53:11.506 --> 0:53:13.946
<v Speaker 1>know you've got lots of thoughts on Saquan's contract, but

0:53:14.026 --> 0:53:18.746
<v Speaker 1>more about what these next few days meant to you

0:53:18.826 --> 0:53:21.906
<v Speaker 1>and me as kids. And let me explain to the listeners.

0:53:22.586 --> 0:53:27.106
<v Speaker 1>Dietro and I went to summer camp together. This is

0:53:27.186 --> 0:53:30.586
<v Speaker 1>not for everyone. This is very niche a Northeast thing,

0:53:30.626 --> 0:53:33.586
<v Speaker 1>if you will. Dietro and I went to summer camp together.

0:53:33.626 --> 0:53:35.226
<v Speaker 1>We didn't grow up in the same town. He grew

0:53:35.306 --> 0:53:36.706
<v Speaker 1>up in a town in Long Island. I grew up

0:53:36.746 --> 0:53:39.346
<v Speaker 1>in New Jersey. Our parents could not stand us. They

0:53:39.426 --> 0:53:41.786
<v Speaker 1>would send us away to a sleepway camp where we

0:53:41.906 --> 0:53:44.346
<v Speaker 1>learn how to build fires and sing songs and tell

0:53:44.386 --> 0:53:48.266
<v Speaker 1>scary stories and do pranks. But the last few days

0:53:48.506 --> 0:53:52.586
<v Speaker 1>of the summer camp season was something called color war.

0:53:53.426 --> 0:53:56.426
<v Speaker 1>And right now colour war is starting at our camp,

0:53:56.466 --> 0:53:59.706
<v Speaker 1>Camp La Conda, where we went, and camps across the

0:53:59.826 --> 0:54:05.706
<v Speaker 1>main Pennsylvania, Upstate New York, locate, geography, whatever you want

0:54:05.746 --> 0:54:07.866
<v Speaker 1>to say. Camps are all going on right now, and

0:54:07.866 --> 0:54:10.186
<v Speaker 1>it's colour war. It's the last thing of the summer detro.

0:54:10.226 --> 0:54:11.826
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you tell our listeners who may have never

0:54:11.906 --> 0:54:14.146
<v Speaker 1>heard of summer camp or never heard of color war,

0:54:14.946 --> 0:54:16.666
<v Speaker 1>what color war is?

0:54:17.586 --> 0:54:18.386
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So.

0:54:19.826 --> 0:54:24.066
<v Speaker 7>Taking to the fact that you start up at summer

0:54:24.066 --> 0:54:27.146
<v Speaker 7>camp right around the third week of June, so you're

0:54:27.226 --> 0:54:30.706
<v Speaker 7>there for about six weeks in a row, and it's

0:54:30.786 --> 0:54:34.346
<v Speaker 7>you and call it maybe about twenty other guys that

0:54:34.426 --> 0:54:37.866
<v Speaker 7>are in your age group, and the whole summer all

0:54:37.906 --> 0:54:40.546
<v Speaker 7>you're doing, you're hanging out, you're having a good time,

0:54:40.626 --> 0:54:44.546
<v Speaker 7>you're playing sports, you're going swimming, you're doing everything that's

0:54:44.746 --> 0:54:49.746
<v Speaker 7>just based around you. Just having fun for six straight

0:54:49.826 --> 0:54:53.386
<v Speaker 7>weeks at a summer camp, and it's unbelievable. And then

0:54:53.506 --> 0:54:56.946
<v Speaker 7>all of a sudden, the last week of camp, they say, Okay,

0:54:57.426 --> 0:55:01.226
<v Speaker 7>there's four hundred campers or so that are here this summer.

0:55:01.426 --> 0:55:03.826
<v Speaker 3>We are going to split you up into two teams.

0:55:04.106 --> 0:55:06.226
<v Speaker 7>There's two hundred on this side and two hundred on

0:55:06.226 --> 0:55:08.506
<v Speaker 7>that side, and it goes by age, whatever group that

0:55:08.546 --> 0:55:11.786
<v Speaker 7>you're in. And for the next three and a half

0:55:11.826 --> 0:55:14.586
<v Speaker 7>to four days, you are going to be split up

0:55:14.586 --> 0:55:17.706
<v Speaker 7>with the guys or girls your age, and you are

0:55:17.746 --> 0:55:21.546
<v Speaker 7>just gonna do every athletic competition against one another in

0:55:21.786 --> 0:55:26.586
<v Speaker 7>just wild competitive nature, scores being kept.

0:55:26.746 --> 0:55:28.946
<v Speaker 3>Everybody's split apart. It tears you.

0:55:29.426 --> 0:55:31.866
<v Speaker 7>It tears you apart so much that the old saying

0:55:31.906 --> 0:55:33.306
<v Speaker 7>in slip boy camps was.

0:55:33.506 --> 0:55:34.706
<v Speaker 3>No color war in the bunks.

0:55:34.866 --> 0:55:37.346
<v Speaker 6>Remember that beater, no color, No color were allowed on

0:55:37.346 --> 0:55:39.146
<v Speaker 6>the bunks. When you're out on the soccer field, the

0:55:39.146 --> 0:55:40.386
<v Speaker 6>basketball court, that color war.

0:55:40.706 --> 0:55:40.986
<v Speaker 3>You're up.

0:55:41.066 --> 0:55:42.906
<v Speaker 7>If you're out in the dining hall and you sit

0:55:42.986 --> 0:55:45.146
<v Speaker 7>at the table, says color are You're screaming back and forth,

0:55:45.426 --> 0:55:47.026
<v Speaker 7>back and forth at each other. But when you get

0:55:47.026 --> 0:55:49.146
<v Speaker 7>back to the bunk, everybody has to take a step back.

0:55:49.346 --> 0:55:52.386
<v Speaker 7>No Color were allowing the bunks because otherwise you'd overflow.

0:55:51.986 --> 0:55:54.306
<v Speaker 8>And just it would be too competitive that there might

0:55:54.466 --> 0:55:56.906
<v Speaker 8>be fights that are up in the bunk and you

0:55:57.146 --> 0:56:02.106
<v Speaker 8>just spend three or four days doing everything competitive against

0:56:02.106 --> 0:56:04.946
<v Speaker 8>the guy that maybe slept in the bunk bed above

0:56:06.066 --> 0:56:08.706
<v Speaker 8>who it was your best friend for the past six weeks,

0:56:08.746 --> 0:56:10.826
<v Speaker 8>and now you guys hate each other because.

0:56:10.546 --> 0:56:12.066
<v Speaker 6>You're on opposite sides of the aisle.

0:56:12.426 --> 0:56:15.346
<v Speaker 7>It's it's just the most amazing four day span of

0:56:15.386 --> 0:56:16.226
<v Speaker 7>the summer for you.

0:56:16.466 --> 0:56:19.866
<v Speaker 6>And this right now, this sort of second week of August.

0:56:20.066 --> 0:56:23.466
<v Speaker 7>If you're someone who's in our age bracket and you

0:56:23.546 --> 0:56:26.866
<v Speaker 7>went to Sleepway camp, did this. If you're logging on

0:56:26.986 --> 0:56:29.226
<v Speaker 7>the Facebook, you're logging on Instagram, whatever it is you,

0:56:29.946 --> 0:56:32.106
<v Speaker 7>you your friends.

0:56:31.826 --> 0:56:32.786
<v Speaker 6>Of yours that I have kids.

0:56:32.826 --> 0:56:35.426
<v Speaker 7>You're seeing all the live stories that are popping up,

0:56:35.466 --> 0:56:37.186
<v Speaker 7>and everything is happening you.

0:56:37.826 --> 0:56:40.786
<v Speaker 6>You can't escape it. But then it's so amazing, and

0:56:40.906 --> 0:56:42.786
<v Speaker 6>all of a sudden, guys you haven't spoken to twenty

0:56:42.826 --> 0:56:44.506
<v Speaker 6>years are texting you and being like, oh my god,

0:56:44.546 --> 0:56:47.826
<v Speaker 6>you remember this from Color. Remember It's just the most

0:56:47.906 --> 0:56:49.666
<v Speaker 6>amazing flashback. I love it.

0:56:51.626 --> 0:56:53.066
<v Speaker 1>We were texting about it. It's like I got to

0:56:53.066 --> 0:56:54.746
<v Speaker 1>come on the podcast and explain the school field. Don't

0:56:54.746 --> 0:56:57.066
<v Speaker 1>even know it is. But I don't remember who won

0:56:57.106 --> 0:56:59.506
<v Speaker 1>Color War any year, but I remember exploits from Color War,

0:56:59.666 --> 0:57:02.106
<v Speaker 1>like I remember there was something called the relay and

0:57:02.146 --> 0:57:06.386
<v Speaker 1>then you heroically threw a softball through a tire before

0:57:06.546 --> 0:57:10.066
<v Speaker 1>our friend. And it's still it was probably thirty years ago,

0:57:10.146 --> 0:57:12.066
<v Speaker 1>it's still one of your best athletic moments, if not

0:57:12.106 --> 0:57:13.066
<v Speaker 1>your best life moments.

0:57:13.146 --> 0:57:16.826
<v Speaker 7>Right, It's something that set me up for the path

0:57:16.866 --> 0:57:18.026
<v Speaker 7>of success.

0:57:19.026 --> 0:57:21.666
<v Speaker 1>How old were you when you threw a softball through attire?

0:57:22.026 --> 0:57:22.906
<v Speaker 6>I was fifteen?

0:57:25.146 --> 0:57:27.426
<v Speaker 1>And what would you say? How did that set you

0:57:27.546 --> 0:57:29.066
<v Speaker 1>up for a path of success?

0:57:29.626 --> 0:57:32.386
<v Speaker 7>It just let you know you win there. You always

0:57:32.426 --> 0:57:34.986
<v Speaker 7>have that story in your back pocket. You'll always do.

0:57:35.546 --> 0:57:38.146
<v Speaker 7>And you know, as you get a little bit older

0:57:38.186 --> 0:57:40.266
<v Speaker 7>and you grow up on Long Island or in New

0:57:40.346 --> 0:57:43.346
<v Speaker 7>Jersey or in that camping world, as you go off

0:57:43.346 --> 0:57:45.826
<v Speaker 7>to college and you start to meet new people, you

0:57:45.866 --> 0:57:49.026
<v Speaker 7>start to sort of make connections and you meet someone

0:57:49.026 --> 0:57:51.746
<v Speaker 7>who knows someone or a friend of a friend, and

0:57:51.826 --> 0:57:55.866
<v Speaker 7>it's it's the most amazing icebreaker you can have, is

0:57:55.946 --> 0:57:58.786
<v Speaker 7>if you know a camp's friend's friend or a friend

0:57:58.786 --> 0:58:00.746
<v Speaker 7>of somebody who went to camp with someone you know,

0:58:00.986 --> 0:58:03.826
<v Speaker 7>or something like that. And right away you bring up Colorward,

0:58:03.866 --> 0:58:06.386
<v Speaker 7>you bring up the souffle throat. They know, everyone knows

0:58:06.506 --> 0:58:09.226
<v Speaker 7>how it is because every camp out there has some

0:58:09.306 --> 0:58:13.306
<v Speaker 7>sort of a final event that everybody's watching that when

0:58:13.346 --> 0:58:16.786
<v Speaker 7>you're eight, nine, ten years old, you wish.

0:58:16.506 --> 0:58:18.426
<v Speaker 6>And you hope and you can't wait to be.

0:58:18.386 --> 0:58:19.066
<v Speaker 3>Able to do that.

0:58:19.346 --> 0:58:21.066
<v Speaker 7>And then when you actually do it and you win,

0:58:21.906 --> 0:58:24.266
<v Speaker 7>you're able to tell that story to anybody who's been

0:58:24.266 --> 0:58:25.986
<v Speaker 7>in the camper world and they get it and they

0:58:26.026 --> 0:58:28.186
<v Speaker 7>respect it, and the ice is broken, and you can

0:58:28.226 --> 0:58:30.706
<v Speaker 7>discuss anything you want, whether it's friends, if you're in

0:58:30.746 --> 0:58:31.546
<v Speaker 7>the business.

0:58:31.186 --> 0:58:34.026
<v Speaker 6>World, anything you want. The walls come down and any

0:58:34.146 --> 0:58:35.266
<v Speaker 6>the doors are open to you.

0:58:36.306 --> 0:58:39.986
<v Speaker 1>Todd, thank you. Let me ask you one more question

0:58:40.106 --> 0:58:41.786
<v Speaker 1>because you had to take that no one else had.

0:58:42.506 --> 0:58:46.226
<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton's comments on Nathaniel Hackett go I.

0:58:46.186 --> 0:58:51.466
<v Speaker 6>Mean me personally, I kind of love those comments. I mean,

0:58:53.426 --> 0:58:54.666
<v Speaker 6>the Broncos.

0:58:54.146 --> 0:58:56.226
<v Speaker 7>Were more or less the worst team in the league

0:58:56.306 --> 0:59:00.506
<v Speaker 7>last year, and you know, Nathaniel Hackett, whether whether it's

0:59:00.506 --> 0:59:03.186
<v Speaker 7>his fault or not, he's the head coach that's all

0:59:03.226 --> 0:59:03.706
<v Speaker 7>his fault.

0:59:04.346 --> 0:59:05.866
<v Speaker 6>They hired Sean Payton for a reason.

0:59:05.946 --> 0:59:06.626
<v Speaker 3>John Payton and.

0:59:06.706 --> 0:59:09.946
<v Speaker 6>Has a long line of credibility behind him.

0:59:10.226 --> 0:59:12.306
<v Speaker 7>You know, there's very few coaches left in the league

0:59:12.466 --> 0:59:15.906
<v Speaker 7>that have Lombardi Trophy's sitting on their walls.

0:59:15.986 --> 0:59:18.266
<v Speaker 6>Right there. He has the right and the credibility to

0:59:18.266 --> 0:59:20.346
<v Speaker 6>come in and turn things around and say what he

0:59:20.386 --> 0:59:22.026
<v Speaker 6>has to say to gain his team moving forward. What

0:59:22.106 --> 0:59:23.786
<v Speaker 6>does he care what he has to say about the Jets?

0:59:23.986 --> 0:59:26.706
<v Speaker 1>Rightfully? So there it is. Can wait to have you

0:59:26.746 --> 0:59:29.146
<v Speaker 1>on during the season again. Go enjoy your summer and

0:59:29.186 --> 0:59:31.586
<v Speaker 1>I'll text you about color all right, buddy, love it.

0:59:31.586 --> 0:59:32.346
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.

0:59:32.426 --> 0:59:34.906
<v Speaker 1>There you go, guys, that's the season with Peter Schreger.

0:59:35.026 --> 0:59:39.306
<v Speaker 1>We have the usual monologue. We had a guest in

0:59:39.346 --> 0:59:41.146
<v Speaker 1>Brandon Bean, and we had my buddy Detro. We are

0:59:41.146 --> 0:59:43.386
<v Speaker 1>in regular season form right now. I want to thank

0:59:43.426 --> 0:59:47.066
<v Speaker 1>everybody back at the LA Studios. I want to thank

0:59:47.426 --> 0:59:50.266
<v Speaker 1>the great Aaron Wan Kaufman. I want to thank Brandon Bean,

0:59:50.306 --> 0:59:53.786
<v Speaker 1>my buddy Ditro, and of course Jason English and all

0:59:53.786 --> 0:59:56.066
<v Speaker 1>the folks who put this thing together. Keep on coming

0:59:56.106 --> 0:59:57.506
<v Speaker 1>back next week. We got some good ones. We're gonna

0:59:57.506 --> 0:59:59.786
<v Speaker 1>start doing this. I thought this would be interesting. We're

0:59:59.786 --> 1:00:02.986
<v Speaker 1>gonna get our usual array of guess but I don't

1:00:03.866 --> 1:00:07.106
<v Speaker 1>like necessarily like the fantasy football and al But there

1:00:07.146 --> 1:00:09.906
<v Speaker 1>are certain fantasy football podcasts that I really like some

1:00:09.986 --> 1:00:11.146
<v Speaker 1>of the people on there, and I thought we would

1:00:11.146 --> 1:00:14.186
<v Speaker 1>serve one of these weeks do a little fantasy football preview.

1:00:14.386 --> 1:00:16.986
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we won't. We'll see, but I'm thinking next week

1:00:17.026 --> 1:00:19.986
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do it, and it's gonna be good. Hang tight, listen,

1:00:20.106 --> 1:00:22.626
<v Speaker 1>and go win your league till next time. This is

1:00:22.626 --> 1:00:32.306
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1:00:32.466 --> 1:00:35.746
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