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Speaker 1: This is Prime Cuts, the best of the Colin Coward Podcast.

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Speaker 1: So a little preamble before I go into Nick Wright

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Speaker 1: on Lamar Jackson. So the Ravens, as reported, have offered

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Speaker 1: him a non exclusive franchise tag. He won't like it,

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Speaker 1: he being Lamar Jackson, Meaning the Ravens are saying, we

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Speaker 1: like you, but test the market. If somebody makes a

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Speaker 1: the dice thinking there won't be a significant market for

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Now you all know I like Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: dynamic wow qualities when seventy five percent of it starts.

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Speaker 1: Jj Watt went on to social media Twitter and asked

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Speaker 1: the question what am I missing? My response to jj

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Speaker 1: Watt would be, you're not missing anything. Lamar Jackson's missing something.

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Speaker 1: Games he's missed ten of the Ravens last twenty two

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Speaker 1: games not available. Don't care how talented you are. Last

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Speaker 1: two years, he's been banged up by the end of

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Speaker 1: the year. So I've said this before. Bryce Young, I

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Speaker 1: think he's really good. But as the quarterback position has

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Speaker 1: evolved to more mobile, more athletic, more running, smaller quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: these guys are not all built to play fifteen twenty years.

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Speaker 1: They're not smaller quarterbacks in vogue, running quarterbacks in vogue.

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Speaker 1: I get it. Teams saying, listen, we're gonna roll it

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Speaker 1: for four or five years. We're not giving a big

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Speaker 1: guaranteed money from year five to year nine. Mahomes overwhelmingly

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Speaker 1: pocket quarterback, gets his money. Josh Allen runs, but he's

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Speaker 1: six six, two fifty. That's why he gets his money.

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Speaker 1: Cam got his money, and Ben got his money. But

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Speaker 1: if you're seeing a slight, if you're seen as somebody

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Speaker 1: that has to excel out of the pocket if you've

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Speaker 1: been banged up more than once. Lamar Jackson has his

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Speaker 1: last fifteen starts. He's got an eighty five passer rating.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people no longer see him as an

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Speaker 1: ascending quarterback. He's a slightly regressing quarterback. So I can

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Speaker 1: like Lamar, But as the quarterback position has evolved to

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Speaker 1: a more athletic position, people are rolling the dice on

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Speaker 1: guys that move more and guys that are smaller. I've

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Speaker 1: said it with Bryce Young. I think he's the best quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's five ten and a half. He waited at two

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Speaker 1: or four at the combine. You and I know he's

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Speaker 1: gonna play at about one ninety three. He's twenty pounds

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Speaker 1: light and three inches short. So I draft him, But

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Speaker 1: two years later, I draft another quarterback. If he can

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Speaker 1: get you out of purgatory, if he can get you

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Speaker 1: out of the abyss, I'm Houston. I draft him, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's at four oh one k here.

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Speaker 1: That's day trading. You're gonna even another quarterback in three

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Speaker 1: or four years, And I think Baltimore has come to

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Speaker 1: that conclusion. Is if the market says Lamar's got four

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Speaker 1: or five teams bidding on him, and Baltimore is going

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Speaker 1: to have to pay up. They're betting that is not

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Speaker 1: the case. The Atlanta Falcons already come out not interested.

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins already come out not interested. I think, Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: says Culture coach GM owner Roster. If we can't get

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Speaker 1: at every position, and we'll find our Brock pretty in

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Speaker 1: the second or third or fourth round at quarterback. So

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Speaker 1: the last two years, I have watched less and less

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Speaker 1: NFL combine and I'm going to describe right now, and

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Speaker 1: the process of the way I do this business. So

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Speaker 1: I've always said, you drive the bus. I'm not loyal

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Speaker 1: football than it got very regional, and over the last

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Speaker 1: less college football. This year. I did more college football

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Speaker 1: And so I talked more college football. And the ratings

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Speaker 1: went up in college football. So fifteen years ago I

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Speaker 1: moved off baseball. Why because I watched the ratings, and

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Speaker 1: go down, and the social currency go down, and so

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Speaker 1: I am loyal to what you're watching. Okay, it's like

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a grocery store. What you're buying, I'm selling.

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Speaker 1: And so the NFL Combine doesn't get huge ratings. But

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Speaker 1: liked the combine. It's a beauty page, and I always

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Speaker 1: understood that. But when Sean McVay says, I'm not going

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Speaker 1: a young person. Trent Dilford told me this years ago,

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Speaker 1: seventy five percent of NFL players don't love football. They

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Speaker 1: love what football provides for them, but they don't really

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Speaker 1: love football. Tony Gonzalez, the Hall of Fame tight end,

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Speaker 1: last ten drafts and you look at some of the

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Speaker 1: this out to you. If I told you, listen, if

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Speaker 1: So you get these guys that come in and they're

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Speaker 1: And that's why to me Belichick, Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur,

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Speaker 1: what I mean, treat people differently. Whatever it is. I

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Speaker 1: think I will name this name in a positive way.

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Speaker 1: It seems to me from my interactions Reverstoy, I've ever

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Speaker 1: heard that Ernie Johnson Scott Van Pelt are two of

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Speaker 1: the nicest people in the media. You know what I mean?

428
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: That treat people well, do all these things, and they're

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Speaker 1: super famous and accomplished. Right, you don't have to do

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Speaker 1: that if you're that level of successful, talented and valuable.

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Speaker 1: But the moment you stop being quite as valuable and

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Speaker 1: talented man. People remember how they've been treated. What a

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00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,919
Speaker 1: pain in the ass you've been. And there's not a

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Speaker 1: lot of like grace, like, there's not a lot of

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Speaker 1: and people the Packers seem to be active. Like if

436
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Speaker 1: I were the Jets, I would have paused by the

437
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Speaker 1: fact that the Packers are done with this guy, whether

438
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: we trade for him or not. They're done with it.

439
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,239
Speaker 1: They they have more information on him than anybody. They're like,

440
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: we've had our full well, you know what I mean.

441
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: It was good run, but we're done with it. And

442
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: that would be at least a little concerning to me

443
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's a great player in him,

444
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: I think he's a good player. Yeah, I don't think

445
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: he's a great player anymore. People keep saying he won

446
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: two MVPs. He did, and then this year he was average,

447
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,359
Speaker 1: not by his standards, by his standards, the worst year

448
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: of his career by NFL standards, he was average. So

449
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: very expensive, oldest quarterback in the league, right, he's the oldest.

450
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: Now Brady's gone, he's got to be old, expensive, old, deteriorating, Yeah,

451
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: and a lot to deal with. I don't know, man,

452
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert, Josh Allen.

453
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: They're just bigger, stronger athletes. Lamar Jackson's faster. Mahomes is

454
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 1: more accurate. Burrow is more accurate. I mean, it happens

455
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: to all of us. I'll know it at some point.

456
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: I can see young talented people out there. Aaron isn't

457
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: as big as the good ones, isn't as fast, isn't

458
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: as healthy, isn't as committed. We have to just be honest, Burrow.

459
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: These guys are like when you watch Mahomes, he is

460
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: the greatest come from behind quarterback, not by a little

461
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: Aaron doesn't have a skill. Burrow now and Mahomes are

462
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: the best situational quarterbacks period on the planet. Josh Allen

463
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: does things that even Mahomes can't do. He's physical, He's

464
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: the best physical. He's the best physical specimens. Not a

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00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: knocks Aaron six one and a half, thirty nine years old,

466
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: and it would like be if I didn't prep for

467
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Speaker 1: my show. He doesn't commit in the offseason, so he's

468
00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: like a ninety two passer rating guy. Now, I love

469
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Speaker 1: talking to Nick about hoops. I think if you watch

470
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Speaker 1: my show and have listened to my show for years.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm an NFL, NBA guy with some college football.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with discussing a place I used

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Speaker 1: to work ESPN. This week there was a moment, Nick

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Speaker 1: where Kendrick Perkins sort of pushed back on Yokich, Steve Nash,

475
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Speaker 1: and Dirt Navitsky winning MVPs. So what Kendrick Perkins was

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Speaker 1: asserting is there have been three white players Dirt Navitsky, Dallas,

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Speaker 1: Steve Nash Phoenix a couple of times, and Yokich who

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Speaker 1: are not top ten in scoring but are winning MVPs.

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00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: He said, what do they all have in common? JJ

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00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: Reddick fired back, asserting that Kendrick Perkins was playing, you know,

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00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: the race card, and it was unfair. It was a

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Speaker 1: highly contested moment and it was pretty riveting t vision.

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Speaker 1: And I'm wondering, Nick, because you've been outspoken where you

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Speaker 1: think Yoki is an overstated player. What was your reaction

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Speaker 1: to that, you know, very turbulent TV moment. I didn't

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Speaker 1: see the whole segment, but I saw the clip, so

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Speaker 1: I will preface it with that. There is nothing and

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Speaker 1: I know we're gonna talk about this, but I'm really

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Speaker 1: glad we are. There are very very few things that

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Speaker 1: make me more frustrated than when people who know better,

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Speaker 1: smart people act like someone invoking the idea that race

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Speaker 1: could play a part in things means they are calling

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Speaker 1: giant swaths of people racist. Kendrick did not call NBA

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Speaker 1: voters racist. Kendrick raised the point. I believe what he

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Speaker 1: raised was an NBA history or in the last fifty years,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, there have been three guys to win

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Speaker 1: League MVP without or in the last forty years, I think,

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Speaker 1: without being in the top ten and scoring, and it

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Speaker 1: was Dark Nash and to be Yokis this year. And

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Speaker 1: in the last sixty years, there's been one guy to

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Speaker 1: win three straight MVPs, Larry Bird, and now it looks

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Speaker 1: like it's going to be Yokis. Now that you raise

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Speaker 1: that point and clearly implied race is a factor, that

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Speaker 1: does not mean you are calling everyone racing. It is

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Speaker 1: no different than if when I talk about offensive coordinators

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Speaker 1: who've made it to the Super Bowl and the coaching

507
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: opportunities they've gotten, and then there's Eric Bienemy and Byron Leftwich.

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Speaker 1: I think race has played a factor, even if it

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Speaker 1: is a subconscious factor in this Yeah, and I think

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Speaker 1: that if we are just flatly analyzing the Yokis situation,

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Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty three, guys have won an MVP with

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Speaker 1: a team not being a top three or four seed

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Speaker 1: Moses in eighty two, Russ the triple double year that

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Speaker 1: you mentioned Yoki's last year. So right or wrong, that

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00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: was an aberrant event that was in a So he

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Speaker 1: got an exception that there? Right, I just said, in

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Speaker 1: the last sixty years, only one guy has won three

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Speaker 1: in a row yea. So him winning three in a

519
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: row would be an exception to what the history is.

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00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: Sure it is it in play that there is. And

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Speaker 1: I saw some an NBA trainer, a white NBA trainer.

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Speaker 1: I forget who it has actually tweeted this. I think

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting point. His belief that the general media,

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Speaker 1: the white general media, tends to subconsciously, maybe unintentionally, underrate

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Speaker 1: good white players. They think, ah, probably not that good

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Speaker 1: the guys who are like actually, you know, and those

527
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: guys actually get underrated by maybe a guy like JJ Reddick. Right,

528
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: Maybe JJ didn't get enough credit for how good of

529
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Speaker 1: a player he was because he was white. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean they're racist. It means race works in our brains

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Speaker 1: a bunch of my ways. While while that happens simultaneously, yeah,

532
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: slightly slightly overrating the great white players, right, and and

533
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: do I think that happens? Yes? Do I think it

534
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: is noteworthy that every time Michael or Lebron or Young

535
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Speaker 1: honest one back to back, the voters then said, Okay,

536
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: let's let's try someone else. Let's you know what I mean,

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00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: Let's just give someone else to try. But Bird won

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Speaker 1: three in a row and Yokes about to win three

539
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: in a row. I think it's noteworthy. I don't think

540
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: that means we're calling anyone God dog clans and it

541
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Speaker 1: is it is to me trying to shut down a conversation.

542
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: I actually do not think. I think if I'm listening

543
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Speaker 1: all the reasons that Yokich is now going to win

544
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 1: probably his third trade MVP race would not be in

545
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: my top five, but it would be a It would

546
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Speaker 1: be somewhere on that pipe chart, a very small one.

547
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: So I think it is a. I think it is

548
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: more nuanced than people give it credit for. And I

549
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: didn't I would have been very upset if I were

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00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Kendrick and A and a teammate did that to me,

551
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't e liked it. So I'm listening to cag

552
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: his podcast with Paul Pierce, and he mentions how he's like, Man,

553
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: I've been in this league a long time. I read

554
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: body language. He goes, when Lebron had that night and

555
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: a D didn't even get up, I don't care if

556
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: you have a bum ankle, you get up. And he

557
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: said he thinks the Lakers are looking at these next

558
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Speaker 1: ten games without Lebron as the future of a D.

559
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: Can they win without Lebron? At they can't? Ad he's gone?

560
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: But it was really interesting. So I mentioned something I'd

561
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: been tipped by somebody and around the Lakers that said,

562
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: you know, Lebron and a D. After that reaction to

563
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: Lebron breaking Kareem Abdul's jabbar all the time scoring record,

564
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: they're not boys. It's not hostile, but then they're not guys,

565
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: right you tell from body language. KG points this out.

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Speaker 1: When I mentioned that two days later, I got the

567
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: strongest reaction from Lebron's people on anything I've ever said.

568
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: What does that tell you? They got really defensive. I

569
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: think there is a feeling Lebron feels like he kind

570
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: of needs him for at least this year, because I

571
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: had been told in the last year there are times

572
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Lebron is disappointed. He came in post bubble out of shape.

573
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: It was his turn to sort of triumphantly take the

574
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: team when Lebron's missing eighties off and not playing as well.

575
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: You know, they've only played like twelve games together since

576
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: the bubble, that's their longest streak, and there's been some

577
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: disappointment in the Lebron camp. When I said that, major

578
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: reaction from Lebron's group, and I trusted my source. So

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Speaker 1: my takeaway on this is Lebron left d Wade okay

580
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: and didn't give him a heads up one of his

581
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: best friends ever. You know, Mellow is one of his

582
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: best friends ever. He's never really actively pursued him and

583
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: said bring him in. He did with Westbrook, sure, he

584
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: didn't do with Mellow, And I guess my takeaway is

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00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: this is that the Lebron a d thing is over,

586
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 1: but Lebron's really sensitive to it because he did move

587
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: off Wade, he did get criticized for it. I think

588
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: it's over. I think Lebron's smart enough to see the

589
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: temperature in the room on social media. He's not. He's

590
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna he's gonna be there for him when he's miked.

591
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: He's like, I love you, man. He makes sure everybody knows.

592
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: But I'm not going to just say the AD's reaction

593
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: to the Kareem moment is nothing. Well, listen, I certainly

594
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 1: not nothing. I don't know what it was. It was

595
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: one of the most bizarre things I've seen in sports

596
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: in a couple of years. I was one of the

597
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: most bizarre, shocking things I've seen in sports, and I

598
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: don't I don't have any sourcing on what was going on.

599
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: I think I speculated with you, but I it's been

600
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: so long and this was just blind speculation because it

601
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 1: was so bizarre. I thought something bizarre had to have happened.

602
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: You know. That was right around the trade deadline, and

603
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: we knew the Lakers called about Kyrie and we now

604
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: know Durant was available. And I, again, I have no

605
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: sourcing on this, and I've said it on TV a

606
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: couple of times and no one as sexs me like

607
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: you're onto something, so I'm probably wrong. I'm just saying

608
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: in the moment, I was like, I wonder if part

609
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: of it. Once the nets were like, we're not doing Kyrie.

610
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: It's like, well any interest in Anthony Davis for Kevin

611
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: Durant and that that filtered back to to a d

612
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: and he felt betrayed, you know, and felt hurt, you

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00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: know whatever, because something had Here's what I do know,

614
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: without having any sourcing, something happened. Because that was weird.

615
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: That was as weird as it gets. With all that said,

616
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: I I don't think the Lakers are dead this year. Man.

617
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: I don't. You can say I'm crazy. I just I

618
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 1: go up and down the Western Conference. I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: the one seed is Denver. I know a healthy Lebron

620
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: and Ad can beat them. I know that I've said

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Speaker 1: the one year. Totally agree. Memphis now is off into

622
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: the week Memphis is who knows with Memphis by the way,

623
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Speaker 1: got John Morant reportedly Jamax said this to meet today

624
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: on the air. Is that this was two days ago

625
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 1: in this airs. Is that you know when Jaw goes out,

626
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,240
Speaker 1: his teammates don't go with him. He's got his guys.

627
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 1: Is that is there a resentment that he has blown

628
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: the season up in that room? I don't know, but

629
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: I do know that Memphis is right now not looking

630
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: as good as they were at any point in the

631
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: last eighteen months. Yeah, the three seed, God love them

632
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: is light the damn beam Sacramento and I got respect

633
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Speaker 1: of Sacramento. My lovely wife who you adore, She's from Sacramento.

634
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Love the people there no defense, none the best offense

635
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: in the league, but no experience and no defense. Same

636
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: with Dallas since Kyrie showed up. They you shoot fifty

637
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 1: three percent against the mass no defense, right. We joked

638
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: about this on the show. NBA used to be a

639
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: race to one hundred with the MAVs. It's kind of

640
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 1: like a race to one twenty five. It's like who's

641
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,959
Speaker 1: gonna get in there first? Like the um Phoenix. Set

642
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: them aside for a moment. They are, they should be

643
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: the favorites. I get it. Dallas is my pick at

644
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. I don't think Kyrie's part

645
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: of winning. I don't love it. Last year they have

646
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: the number eight. Defense's fallen apart. I know you believe

647
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: in the Warriors. I got a fact. I got a

648
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: nut fact for you, Colin. Since nineteen eighty, the worst

649
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: road record to win a title twenty one in twenty

650
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: the Warriors have won seven times on the road this year.

651
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: I don't think it's their season. Okay. So now then

652
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: you have the Clippers, who made the brilliant decision of

653
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: adding Russell Westbrook for no reason whatsoever. So and then

654
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 1: there's Phoenix, which has everything you'd want, it not quite

655
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: as much depth as you'd want. However, there are certain

656
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: teams that when an injury happens, the Bucks last year

657
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: with Middleton, it's like, God, dog it what terrible luck.

658
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: Couldn't see it coming. Bad timing, bad luck. There's certain

659
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: teams when injuries happened, like the Lakers every year post bubble,

660
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: it's like, well, yeah, one guy's in year twenty and

661
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: the other guys man Injurer's whole career. Or the Clippers

662
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: it's like, well, Kawhi is his body's breaking down. The

663
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: Sun's veteran leader and best player are incredibly injury prone.

664
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: Now you can't like Kevin durant Is more Is post

665
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: Achilles is injured all the time. So I just say

666
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: that you can't. You always people always throw out the

667
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: caveat of if healthy. Well, there are certain teams more

668
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: likely to be healthy than us, and the Suns, Clippers,

669
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: and Lakers are three teams that if they're hurt, it's like, yeah,

670
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: well that's you know, that's the risk you run. So

671
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: the point I'm making is I think I think everything

672
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: you said about the relationship might be correct, and the

673
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 1: Lakers a long term might be correct. But I also

674
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: think if they can survive this time without Lebron, I

675
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: don't and I don't know the severity of the foot injury,

676
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: but if they survive it, Lebron having three weeks off

677
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: before a playoff run in a wide open West, I'm

678
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: not ready to write them off yet. Maybe I'm you know,

679
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: a romantic, but I'm not ready to write them off.

680
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: I will tell you one team that I think is

681
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: going to feel like this could have been a year

682
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: for a great run. And now his questionnaiming the run

683
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: was the Pelicans. Yeah, Pelicans are looking I'm beliebl And

684
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: now we don't know when Zion's ever going to play. Yeah,

685
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: and that's a disaster. Well, the Zion John Morant class

686
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: felt great. Zion can't get healthy and John Morant can't

687
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: grow up. So you know, it's one of the things,

688
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: not that I defended job, but I said, you know,

689
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL, you know, a guy comes in after

690
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: four years at Georgia, three or four years at Alabama.

691
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: They've gone to college, they've the global perspective of classmates,

692
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: they've had hard coaching. These are men. The two best

693
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: guys in this year's draft forgo college, right. So it's

694
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: AAU or international basketball to a paid league, to the NBA.

695
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: They can't drink in the team hotel. So I think

696
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: part of what sort of endemic in this sport, and

697
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: you've got to come to terms with it, is these

698
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: guys aren't emotionally ready, and I think it's just a reality.

699
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: I sort of build it in is when I look

700
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: at these rookies. First of all, they all hit a

701
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: wall year one, because college basketball is regional travel mostly

702
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: thirty six games. NBA is domestic travel count preseason playoffs

703
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: could be one hundred games. So they all hit a

704
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: wall like game sixty five. They can't keep weight on,

705
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, they're just they have to play defense. They're

706
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: burning seven thousand calories at night. By year two, expectations

707
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: ramp up, social media, parents, hanger honors, So the jaw situation,

708
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: I think you'll get turned it around. And I'm not

709
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 1: defending him, but isn't this sort of something that's built

710
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: into the sport. These are kids now they have revenue, basketball, revenue, shoes, revenue, social.

711
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: Oh it's overwhelmed. Listen. So here's the thing. I'm amazed

712
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: anybody at that age that money that fame doesn't just

713
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: create disaster after disaster. So I am super you know,

714
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: I've told the story to you before. I'm smart kid.

715
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: I think good family, all the opportunities. Forget getting fifty million.

716
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: I ride out of college one who wants to be

717
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: a millionaire and won fifty thousand and it's gone in

718
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: nine months, gone with it. By the way, I didn't

719
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: I adn't buy a car and have any assets. It

720
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: was spent gambling, drinking out is spent. People are like, oh,

721
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: you're paying for everybody's lifestyle. Yeah, of course you are.

722
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: Of course you are. So I'm going to defend a

723
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: lot of that stuff. Like people are like, oh, all

724
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: these guys, they're paying for their friends. As soon as

725
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: you have money, you like doing things that cost money,

726
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: and nobody likes to do them alone. So it's like, hey, guys,

727
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: want to go to dinner, and if all your friends like, yeah,

728
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: I've got money for Fridays and you have money for

729
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: mass Rows and I guess what, You're all going to

730
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: mass Rows and you're paying the bill. It's like, hey, guys,

731
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: it's the offseason. You're on vacation, and they're like, yeah,

732
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: I can pay for Branson and you're like, hmm, I

733
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: was thinking Barbados. I guess we'll all go and all

734
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: pay for it. So I understand, like all of that

735
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: stuff is to me totally reasonable. The gun stuff scares me,

736
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: and again I'm going to couch it with this part

737
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: of it. There is legitimate, understandable pushback from people who

738
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: are like, hold on a second, we have more guns

739
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: than people in this country. Everybody's allowed to have guns,

740
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: and we only freak out when it's a young black guy.

741
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't breaking any laws potentially, all that got it.

742
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: I actually think in a lot of ways there are

743
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: fair points there as far as the apocrisy of it

744
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: all day. What is undeniable, though, is what he is

745
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: doing is dangerous. Forget if it's right or wrong, it's dangerous.

746
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: It would be dangerous anywhere. It is particularly dangerous in Memphis, Tennessee. Memphis,

747
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: Tennessee has the third highest homicide rate of any major

748
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: city in the country fifty biggest cities. Bloomberg just had

749
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: this fifty biggest cities in America. Memphis, Sinnesies murder rate

750
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: is number three. It is nine times New York City, Okay,

751
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: which means if you are one of as far as

752
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: gun violence, the most dangerous cities in America, you're one

753
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: of the most dangerous cities in the world in developed countries.

754
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: That's where he lives. We just saw in Memphis a

755
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: Memphis celebrity, beloved young Dolf, a rapper, murdered at a

756
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: bakery in the last year. I don't know if Jah's

757
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: a real gangster or not. I don't know if he's

758
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: hanging with real gangsters. I don't know if he's just

759
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, playing for the Graham. I know that city.

760
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: My wife, who you adore, her best friend, who you've

761
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: met a few times, saw it the Super Bowl. Nicole,

762
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: the who's with us all the time, lives in Memphis.

763
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: We go to Memphis a lot. I know the city,

764
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: I know the nightlife. I told this story on my

765
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: pod the other day. I don't know if I should

766
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: tell it or not, but whatever. We went down to

767
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: Memphis for the Southern Heritage class. The Dean Stein Jackson

768
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: stating saw it. That night we went out, went out

769
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: to a lot of the places that I know, like

770
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: our places, Jagoes in Memphis. That that scene that those clubs. Right.

771
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: One of the guys who's promoting one of the parties

772
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: that night knew I was coming, He knew Nicole knew

773
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: I was coming. Whatever. When we got there, he said, hey,

774
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Nick. I was like, yeah, it's great whatever,

775
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: and he said this is such and such. He's gonna

776
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: be with you tonight. Like huh. He's like no, He's like,

777
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: I brought it. He's one of my security guys. He's

778
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: just gonna be with you all night. I'm like, no,

779
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: come on, man, like I thought he was doing it,

780
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: like I was like some big shot. He's like no.

781
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: He's like, eat, I know, I know my city, and

782
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: I know I'll feel better he'll be with you. His

783
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: point was, you have a little bit of notoriety, a

784
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: little bit of jewelry. I'd feel better if I knew

785
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: someone who knew everything about the city was here with you.

786
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: And now some might say and if boss is here this,

787
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: then I might say, and Nick, maybe go to a

788
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 1: different club maybe, but whatever it is, you're young, you're

789
00:49:52,520 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: having fun. That is where John lives. And whether he

790
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: is an actual tough guy or not. Actual tough guys

791
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: see these videos and see how he's conducting himself. And

792
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it's being hyperbolic to say what he's

793
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: doing is dangerous. Not that he's going to hurt someone.

794
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: That's something could happen to him. And and this last

795
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: point I'll make on it, the opportunity in front of

796
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: him there is like he's in a very unique spot

797
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: because if someone were to say who are the best

798
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: players in the NBA over the next you know, six years,

799
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: so Lebron's gone, Durant's probably aged out of it, Staff

800
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 1: might be aged out of it. So like you know,

801
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: from twenty twenty six to twenty thirty two, are the

802
00:50:53,719 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: best players? People probably say, well, Yannis Luca Yokitch and

803
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 1: then you say Job Tatum, whomever. Here's my point, there

804
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: is a lot of money in being He's never going

805
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 1: to be the best player in the league, but he

806
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: might be the best American player in the league for

807
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: a long time because all the guys ahead of him.

808
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 1: There's different marketing available for the best American player. There's

809
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: just is like they Luca and Yoki and Janis are

810
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 1: not going to get all of the endorsements that the

811
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: guy who's the best player in the league should get

812
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,720
Speaker 1: as an American guy. Would that could all go to job.

813
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: People love him, he's electrifying, but the shit he's doing

814
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: is dangerous. It's flatly dangerous. And I hope he I

815
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: hope he gets that, and I hope he's I hope

816
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: he's all right. So when Sean Payton would come on

817
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: the show with me this year on Mondays, he said,

818
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, Parcels used to say, you're first fifteen picks,

819
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: do not take an undersized player, regardless of position. Tua

820
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: is not a top fifteen pick. Kyler Murray now we're finding,

821
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: doesn't want to get hit. Jalen Hurts, great player, second round,

822
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, second round. Smaller players. I mean, you know,

823
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: Dave half this league is undrafted. So I look at

824
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,280
Speaker 1: Bryce Young. He's five ten and a half, that's about

825
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: three inches short, and he's gonna weigh I mean in

826
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: the combine he's over two hundred. He ate a lot

827
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: of steaks and a lot of potash. Yeah, yeah, you

828
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna play at one ninety six. What

829
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: do you do with him? I do think he's the

830
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 1: most I think he has two things. I'll say he's

831
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: accurate and Dave. I watched them in high school in college.

832
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: His pocket awareness is fantastic. He has an absolute feel

833
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: for the pocket, which I think Dave is a neat

834
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: And eight, I don't think you can teach it. Some

835
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: guys never Sam Darnold love him, never feels it. Ever,

836
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: he runs away too early. He doesn't see it. Bryce

837
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 1: Young's pocket awareness is a plus. Plus. He's small. He

838
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: doesn't to me. He doesn't work in Chicago, a windy,

839
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: cold northern environment. But God Houston, Dave, Atlanta a dome Dave.

840
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. How do you pass him up? No?

841
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: I think that you know. I talked to him about eight.

842
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: I'm a member of the thirty thirteam. Okay, Parcels actually

843
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: got it started and we were talking on there. There

844
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: was five or six general managers on there, and they

845
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: talked to people around the lid GM's personnel people more

846
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: than I do. And there is a real split feeling

847
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: on these quarterbacks. I mean they bryce young. You're talking

848
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: about in the right situation. But after this combine workout

849
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 1: c J. Stroud, there's some people like there's one guy

850
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: that was talking about Will Levins, how they like how

851
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: he gets the ball out and for their style of offense,

852
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 1: he would be perfect, you know. And then the Richardson's kid,

853
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got all the intangibles. I guess I

854
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 1: have never studied him one year doing it makes me

855
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: a little nervous with him. But the point is that

856
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: there's not in NFL general manager's minds. There's not a

857
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in this opinion, So you know, I would

858
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: not be surprised. I mean, I think that it'll be

859
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, but I don't know. I mean, I've heard

860
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: a lot of different stories, and it's a matter of

861
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: who's going to fit in your offense. You talked about

862
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: the different cities, the mentality of their offense. You know,

863
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be real interesting. I don't know any

864
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: negatives except the size. Look at you know, Drew Brees.

865
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: People passed on him, we did at the Dolphins because

866
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: of his size, but he was very accurate when he

867
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: was at Purdue and he moved into pocket. He drew

868
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: Brees did a lot of things that Bryce Bryce Young does.

869
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: He really does without as good as supporting cast. And

870
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 1: I have an Alabama Now. You know I said this

871
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: in the preamble, So this interview about the combine, Belichick,

872
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, Matt Lafleur have said, Nah, I'm not going

873
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: to go. Here's what I worry about, Dave. When you

874
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: plan a college or a pro football season, you're hurt

875
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: by week three. Nobody's healthy. You match up against guys

876
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: that are bigger and stronger than you. I want to

877
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 1: see game tape. I worry it's a complete cottage industry.

878
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: Now coach prepping for the Wonderlick, prepping for the Combine. Shit,

879
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: I think you get fooled. I think Belichick has been

880
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: fooled by players. These guys come in, Dave. If I

881
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: went to you and Trent Dilfer said something to me

882
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: years ago, he goes, seventy five percent of these guys

883
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: don't love football. They love what football provides for them.

884
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: And I was told by my agent, get in the

885
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,760
Speaker 1: best shape of your life. You'll never have to work.

886
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: You're going to be a late first rounder. Dave. I

887
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 1: look at the combine now I think he get fooled

888
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: a lot. I see some these combined beauty pageant contestants.

889
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 1: I mean, where did you fallen on it? You know,

890
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: I agree with it. Well, it wasn't it wasn't the

891
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 1: extreme back then as it is now. But I work.

892
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: I won't give the names. I've worked with about four

893
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,280
Speaker 1: or five agents in Naples, Florida, in your own stomping grounds,

894
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: and they would bring in their college players and one

895
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: of the challenges I had was get him to draw

896
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: the circles called and picture this on a board, the

897
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,680
Speaker 1: circles of an offensive formation where one guy was drawn,

898
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: you know, the size of a dinner plate, and the

899
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 1: other guy, and then next to him was the guard.

900
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: It was the size of a quarter. I mean, you know,

901
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: prepping him. So at the end of this week, all

902
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: I did was what you're talking about, This is how

903
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: you got to answer the questions. This is how when

904
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 1: they drawing the board, this is what you got drawn.

905
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 1: So you're one hundred percent right. And these guys are

906
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: getting scold yes from the agent. But there's a lot

907
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: of guys like mine, ex coaches, that are spending a

908
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: lot of time with these guys. I sat in those

909
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: meetings for over fifteen years as a head coach and

910
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: a GM and head coach at the Dolphins, I asked

911
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: those questions. I know what the coaches want to hear

912
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: when the tape goes on and you make a mistake.

913
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 1: I know exactly what they don't want to hear too, right.

914
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: So I mean I'm one of those guys that's been

915
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: been schooling them. You're one hundred percent right, Yeah, No,

916
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: I mean, shit, there's a real industry out there for

917
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: a Dave wants that. Dave, here's a lot of money

918
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: eats these kids circles, how to draw circles. So Aaron

919
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers goes in a darkness retreat and know, my takeaway is,

920
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm pretty new school on this. I got fairly young kids.

921
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: Whatever it takes for you to get your mind clear. Shit,

922
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: I don't care, Dave. If you got to go to

923
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: therapy when the season ends, go take six weeks, go

924
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: find yourself. But I've had this belief for a long

925
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: time that Farv and Aaron are really similar. That the

926
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 1: lack of an owner allows the quarterback for the Packers,

927
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: if talented, to essentially run the franchise. And because Green

928
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: Bay is the smallest market. If they're bad at quarterback,

929
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: they're not on television. In my childhood seventies and eighties,

930
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: the Packers were never on television. They I mean, they

931
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: really weren't, and I think they're paralyzed by it. If

932
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: there was a Jerry Jones or an owner in Green

933
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: Bay and Aaron said I'm going to go into darkness retreat,

934
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: he'd say, well, when you're done with that, I want

935
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: an answer. Or you're going to go in a darkness retreat,

936
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to send you to the Jets. You'll be

937
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: dark for the rest of your career. You tell me

938
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: when when you were with Jerry or Wayne Hyazinga, go

939
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,880
Speaker 1: back to all your owners, were there moments that an

940
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: owner was actually really important to set a precedent, to

941
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: be a voice to hold people accountable. Because Farvin Aaron

942
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: have gone on this retirement threat tour, both of them

943
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: for the last five years of their careers. Yeah, I

944
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 1: would say no. I mean, that's probably not the answer

945
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: you want to hear. But quite honestly, you know, I

946
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: was at Miami when Wayne Heizenga hired me, and Dan

947
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: Marino was at the end of his career and The

948
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 1: first job that I had was Gwynn and sit down

949
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: and talk to Dan, who I knew was a fellow

950
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: pit guy University of Pittsburgh, and tell him that we

951
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: were changing offenses. And I didn't see there being a

952
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: fit that he could be on the team, but we

953
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: were going to go a different direction. On and on.

954
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: I have chan Daily, who was going to do a

955
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: lot of movement stoff not to drop back. We were

956
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: changing the Don Shula offense. When Jimmy was there, he

957
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: kept that pretty much in place. I was completely getting

958
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: a new playbook, and so I kind of went through that.

959
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: Wayne Isaeka was never involved with it. Jerry Jones when

960
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: I was at the Cowboys when Jimmy Johnson was there,

961
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones was never involved in what was going on

962
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: with Troy Anklin. Never It would have never happened. Jimmy

963
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: would have left earlier if that was the case. I

964
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 1: mean he would have. He wouldn't have put up with it.

965
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't buy that. I does it bother you?

966
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 1: Does it bother you that Aaron has sort of a

967
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: laws a fair attitude on updating the Packers. Yeah, it does,

968
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: because last year we made a commitment to him. I mean,

969
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 1: we really did. And yeah, it's a two way street.

970
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 1: I get that because we kind of went through the

971
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: same thing last year and we made this big commitment,

972
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: big money commitment. So it does bother me. I personally

973
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 1: think he'll end up back there. I mean, yeah, you know,

974
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: there's a hook to go maybe with the Raiders with

975
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 1: Davante Adams because he's a buddy here. There's a hook

976
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: to go with Hackett to the Jets because it might

977
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: be a similar offense. But I don't think Aaron Rodgers

978
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: wants a lot of change and he knows what he's

979
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: getting in Green Bay with Lafloor. He knows the offense,

980
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: he knows the receivers. You know, I don't know he

981
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: knows what he wants to do. Talk about a guy

982
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: as an offseason routine. Now, all of a sudden, you

983
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: go to the Jets and they want you in the

984
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 1: weight room four days a week, you know, I mean,

985
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: routine's change that is not going to finish. That was

986
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: the biggest thing with Dan Marino and Dan and I

987
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: talked about. I says, Hey, it ain't gonna be like

988
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: it was. Dan. You know, we're gonna start OTAs like

989
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: Tamar and we're gonna get in the offseason program. Tamar

990
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: whoa coach, I got offseason commitments, and I go. Dan

991
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: had a lot of stuff going on, you can imagine,

992
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: and it's been that way. He deserved it for years,

993
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden we were going to change that.

994
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: The routine change in his mind, I think was as

995
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 1: much as anything. I think that's gonna play a part

996
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: in this with Aaron Rodgers at the end of the day,

997
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: I truly do. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, listen, you drafted

998
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: Jordan Love in the first round. At some point you

999
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: have to pay. You don't want to pay him before

1000
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: you've seen if he can play. And you know he's

1001
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: a tough one to sign. So because if you make

1002
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: a trade for Aaron Rodgers, okay, if I'm at the Jets,

1003
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 1: the Packers are gonna want multiple picks. Well, it can't

1004
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: be multiple picks. This is a one year deal. In

1005
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: their minds, we'll give you something for one year and

1006
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: then if it happens the next year, maybe we'll do

1007
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: something for the next year. But I think it's a

1008
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: tough sell to get somebody to give up a lot

1009
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: to get Aaron Rodgers think about it when you're when

1010
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: you're back of your mind, you're thinking, this could be

1011
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 1: a one and done situation. If he didn't like it

1012
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: at Green Bay when an MVP's you know, he could

1013
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: surely have a problem with us. With the new system

1014
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: and new players, a new city, a new place to live,

1015
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: news media. I mean, so it's a one year deal.

1016
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: In my mind, if I'm on the they're in thinking

1017
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:21,760
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