WEBVTT - Agenda 47: Trump's Plan For Trans Kids

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<v Speaker 1>Alson media.

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<v Speaker 2>to die and current president doesn't give a shit. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>your host, Nah Wong with me as Garrison.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we're covering another aspect of Trump's agenda forty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're looking at President Trump's plan to protect

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<v Speaker 2>children from left wing gender insanity. Now, despite that title,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the least trumpy of all of these. He

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<v Speaker 2>is just phoning this one the fucking It's the most

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<v Speaker 2>hymn reading off a teleprompter I have ever seen in

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<v Speaker 2>any speech he's ever given, because.

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<v Speaker 3>Historically he's never cared about this kind of stuff. He's

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<v Speaker 3>just having to do it now to appease the people

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<v Speaker 3>he needs to get votes from. But like, if you

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<v Speaker 3>look at Trump's stances on transgender people historically, however, not good.

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<v Speaker 3>They're not like a genda CIDL. And you can really

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<v Speaker 3>tell his hard, isn't it It's.

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<v Speaker 2>He I mean, legitimately, he sounds like so someone doing

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<v Speaker 2>an ad read for a rage shadow legend sponsorship, Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's he's so bored. There's like one. It's funny

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<v Speaker 2>because you can tell this just something I started happening

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the administration was you could tell

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<v Speaker 2>when his speech writers were just writing in a Trump

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<v Speaker 2>word for him to say so it would look less

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<v Speaker 2>like he was. And they're doing it in this one.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only like one genuinely trumpy thing in this Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>it all fucking sucks. Ass, it's quite bleak. So let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's get into what exactly is in this. I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to hear Trump's plan for the transgenders. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>first he wants to end Biden's executive order on gender

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<v Speaker 2>affirming care. Now you might be asking, wait, Mia, what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>Wait what executive what executive order? I looked this up too,

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<v Speaker 4>because I was like, wait, what is he talking about?

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<v Speaker 4>So apparently, back in twenty twenty two, Biden issued a

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<v Speaker 4>series of executive orders that were supposed to protect the

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<v Speaker 4>rights of trans kids to get gender affirming care.

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<v Speaker 2>So that didn't happen. No, no, no, now these weren't. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>these were mostly stunningly ineffective. Well, I'm going to quote

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<v Speaker 2>from I finally found the actual executive which is disturbingly

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<v Speaker 2>hard to find the actual text of because everyone just

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<v Speaker 2>wanted you to read the press release, because what's actually

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<v Speaker 2>in it is okay. The Secretary of Health and Human

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<v Speaker 2>Services shall, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, use

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Health and Human Services authority to project

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQI plus individuals access to medically necessary care from harmful

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<v Speaker 2>state and local laws and practices, and shall promote the

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<v Speaker 2>adoption of promising policies and practices to support health equity,

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<v Speaker 2>including in the area of mental health for LGBTQI youth

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<v Speaker 2>and adults. Within two hundred days of this order, the

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of HHS sell develop and release sample policies for

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<v Speaker 2>states to safeguard and expand access to health care for

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<v Speaker 2>LGBTQI individuals and their families, including mental health care services.

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<v Speaker 2>Now let's pull out for one second to try to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out what does that actually do. So what is

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<v Speaker 2>being done there. The thing that is being commanded is

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<v Speaker 2>that the Department of Health and Human Services make sample

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<v Speaker 2>guidelines for state. And then there's another part where they

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about how they were going to form a

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<v Speaker 2>committee to study trans mental health care. Uh huh, so

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<v Speaker 2>none of this did shit, right, But this is the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing that Trump's like, We're going to overturn this.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the actual substantive shift here is and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to this in a bit. This didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just a pr op he does. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is funny because he does a series of these things

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<v Speaker 2>every single trans day of visibility, and then nothing ever

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<v Speaker 2>happens because as a joke, we've had like.

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<v Speaker 3>So many states since twenty twenty two completely restrict healthcare

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<v Speaker 3>for trans people under the age of eighteen, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>not heard of a single instance where the federal government

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<v Speaker 3>has intervened to to help to help a kid get

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<v Speaker 3>puberty blockers in the in a state like where they

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<v Speaker 3>passed these sorts of bills.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this, The Justice Department has done lawsuits, sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think they won like one of them. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's not literally nothing, it's just mostly nothing like and

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<v Speaker 2>then this is the thing. It's coming through the judiciary,

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<v Speaker 2>not through the federal bureaucracy. And that's a point of

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<v Speaker 2>contrast that I want to get to because Trump, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is something that's that's always been true about

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<v Speaker 2>sort of the use of executive power by democratic versus

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<v Speaker 2>Republican presidents. Right, sure, you know, there are there like

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrats sometimes do use like massive executive power overreach,

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<v Speaker 2>things like, for example, Obama's claimed to have the legal

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<v Speaker 2>authority to kill any man, woman, or child moment they

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<v Speaker 2>steff off of the US or regardless of citizenship status.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that he used to kill a sixteen year

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<v Speaker 2>old American citizen in Yemen, so that he does that sometimes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>But they don't do anything useful with it. And now

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<v Speaker 2>let's get to what Trope is going to do with

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<v Speaker 2>this quote. Sign a new executive order instructing every federal

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<v Speaker 2>agency to cease all programs to promote the concept of

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<v Speaker 2>sex and gender and transition at any age. Ask Congress

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<v Speaker 2>to permanently stop federal taxpayer dollars from being used to

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<v Speaker 2>promote or pay for these procedures. Okay, so that's bad.

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<v Speaker 2>What exactly this does is kind of murky. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about planned parenthood in a second, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>another one of these proposals that's a lot worse for

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<v Speaker 2>planned parenthood.

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<v Speaker 3>And I guess that'd be going after some level of

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<v Speaker 3>like government insurance. If you're trying to get medical care

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<v Speaker 3>paid for if you have government insurance, I guess that'd

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<v Speaker 3>be what that's trying to target.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think there's like two things. One and I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is the main target is well, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sort of unclear, but the two main targets I

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<v Speaker 2>think are any kind of federal education program that talks

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<v Speaker 2>about queer people. Sure, and then the second one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it is like if you're in the military, you won't

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<v Speaker 2>be able to tend to anymore because or if and

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<v Speaker 2>this is actually a pretty big deal because there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of federal employees. The federal employees health insurance

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<v Speaker 2>would no longer cover any gender for macare. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is for everyone, right because it is not.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately a lot of transgender employees at the DOT yep.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's very bad. Those drones, Oh god, oh you

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<v Speaker 2>meant oh the you ha do o D? Yes, the department,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, you said do two. Probably the transportation. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, oh, yeah, that's there's a bunch of.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yes also because yes, but I meant I meant

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<v Speaker 3>the do O D.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nones. You know, it's bad. There's an open question

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<v Speaker 2>here about how exactly this works. So one question that

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<v Speaker 2>I I'm genuinely not sure about. There's a possibility this

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<v Speaker 2>works like abortion funding, where so federal money can't go

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<v Speaker 2>to promoting abortions. I think there's some very weird stuff

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<v Speaker 2>with USAID money overseas, so sometimes happens, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know someone, I'm not a USCID expert, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so for example, you so if you are a clinic

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<v Speaker 2>that does abortions, right, you can take federal money. You

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<v Speaker 2>just can't use the federal money for the abortions. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's possible that, you know, for example, so one of

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<v Speaker 2>the one of the Influme Consent clinics in Chicago takes

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<v Speaker 2>federal money for HIV treatment. Under this wording, it seems

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<v Speaker 2>like they could still get federal funding for that, but

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<v Speaker 2>they couldn't take any money for gender firming care. But also,

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<v Speaker 2>Congress could just pass a bill that stops I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sure it could pass a bill that stops all funding

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<v Speaker 2>for anyone who does this. So you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>something that's kind of interesting about these is that this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff is all very very bad. It's also not quite

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<v Speaker 2>the maximalist genocidal policy yet, I think in large part

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<v Speaker 2>because they haven't taken power and because the groups who

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<v Speaker 2>are like pushing this stuff this is actually kind of

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<v Speaker 2>an older This This is from February twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, it's actually a lot older than a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the other stuff here, And even even back like

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty three, the beginning of the year, stuff

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<v Speaker 2>was less radical than it is now.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was before the big we must eliminate transgenderism.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah thing that started with the Daily Wire, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Trump mirrored some of that rhetoric in his like a

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<v Speaker 3>seapack talk from that spring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was kind of a ramp up like on some

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<v Speaker 3>of like the quote unquote transgender ism rhetoric really was

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<v Speaker 3>getting more popular on that time. The kind of groomer

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<v Speaker 3>rhetoric from the year previous twenty twenty two is starting

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<v Speaker 3>to kind of fade away, and they were finding a

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<v Speaker 3>new thing to replace it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So there's a good, just decent chance that this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff is all actually much worse when it gets as

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<v Speaker 2>bunched that. That's the way it's written right now, as

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<v Speaker 2>best as I can tell. So the third one, and

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<v Speaker 2>this one is a fiasco. Any hospital or healthcare provider

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<v Speaker 2>who either like gives up puberty blockers or does genderfirming

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<v Speaker 2>surgery for miners, or gives hormones to miners can't accept

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<v Speaker 2>Medicare or Medicaid, they get knocked off of the approved list. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so that is a huge deal because that immediately knocks

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<v Speaker 2>out Planned Parenthood. Who plant pair whod gets this like

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<v Speaker 2>Sophie's choice thing of either you don't provide puberty blockers

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't you don't provide gender firming care of

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<v Speaker 2>either like either sort of hormones or puberty blockers to kids,

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<v Speaker 2>or you lose every single person who uses Medicare and Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's a lot of people. That's like I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>numbers that suggests it's like forty percent of people who

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<v Speaker 2>use Planned Parenthood use particularly Medicare, And this is a

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<v Speaker 2>complete fiasco.

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<v Speaker 3>I also wonder how this would impact like cis, children

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<v Speaker 3>who need to be put on puberty blockers, because people

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<v Speaker 3>forget that, like combery blockers have been a thing for

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<v Speaker 3>like decades and decades that are like well proven to

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<v Speaker 3>be safe and effective for delaying puberty. It does not

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<v Speaker 3>stop puberty from happening altogether. It does not cast straight

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<v Speaker 3>you permanently or in any of these kind of wild claims.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, and the self that's weird here too, is

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<v Speaker 2>like it's the language they're using is really inflammatory shit,

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<v Speaker 2>So it's actually deeply unclear what the fuck they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I mean, and I've read a lot of these

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<v Speaker 3>sorts of bills, even like the Arkansas bill targeting IVF.

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<v Speaker 3>When these politicians are questioned about some of the language

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<v Speaker 3>that would, ultimately, if written and acted upon as written,

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<v Speaker 3>would like block a whole bunch of regular medical procedures

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<v Speaker 3>from happening, they're often confused about why they're being asked

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<v Speaker 3>about this because they're like, no, obviously things will continue

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<v Speaker 3>on as normal, and if we have to amend the

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<v Speaker 3>bill to like change this one little thing, then we'll

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<v Speaker 3>do that. They don't actually think about all the little

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<v Speaker 3>tiny ways that this will also just like interferes with

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<v Speaker 3>like regular medical science. Yeah, and they just digital care

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<v Speaker 3>because they know it's because they're never going to prosecute

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<v Speaker 3>for stuff like that. It just isn't it. They're genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>not thinking about those other use cases at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like I'm gonna read the first sentence the

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<v Speaker 2>first one of these, like the text of it revoke

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden's cruel policies on so called gender affirming care

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<v Speaker 2>and quotes a process that includes giving kids puberty blockers

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<v Speaker 2>and mutating their physical appearance and ultimately performing surgery on

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<v Speaker 2>minor children. So that's like not real, that's not what

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<v Speaker 2>gender affirming care is. So, but the thing is right,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's fucking impossible to tell whether this would result

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<v Speaker 2>in them actually banning all gender affirming care whatsoever, which

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<v Speaker 2>includes other stuff as well, or if it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>more limited ban like who the fuck knows, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>not being specific at all, so this can mutate into

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of stuff. One of the other immediate

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<v Speaker 2>sort of impacts of banning, particularly if banning meta, is

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<v Speaker 2>that like there's a lot of trans people on it,

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<v Speaker 2>because trans people are significantly poorer than SIS people. So

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, just to take like a random statistic op so,

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<v Speaker 2>the unemployment rate right now in the US is three

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<v Speaker 2>point eight percent. The unemployment rate for trans people is

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen percent, which is nineteen thirty five great depression levels

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<v Speaker 2>of unemployment. So you know, if you if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>transperson out there and you're listening to people tell you

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<v Speaker 2>how great the economy is, and you're like, what the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck is going on the answer is that you literally

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<v Speaker 2>do not live in the same world as assist people

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<v Speaker 2>who are telling you this. You live in the nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirty five Great Depression. So yeah, but and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so cutting off one of the ways that people can

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<v Speaker 2>access medical care if they you know, can't afford it

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<v Speaker 2>is a fucking disaster. This is going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Do.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, presumably if this goes through with the only

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<v Speaker 2>way that you're going to be able to get like

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<v Speaker 2>gender firming care if you're a kid is by having

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<v Speaker 2>rich parents and going to like some kind of clinic

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't take Medicaid Medicare medicaid. Yeah, so you know

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<v Speaker 2>what else doesn't take Medicare Medicaid? Actually who knows? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Look, it's a bad time to ad pivots. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're back. So okay, now having gone into all

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<v Speaker 2>of that detail, Number four is just quote pass a

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<v Speaker 2>law prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all fifty states.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is see, this is this is a great

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<v Speaker 3>example of the thing I was just talking about, how

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<v Speaker 3>like theoretically, if one was as smart ass, you'd be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>so you're banning circumcision. You're like, no, of course not,

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<v Speaker 3>because they're they're not thinking about this sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is this is like yeah, no, it's just it's

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<v Speaker 3>just yeah, trans kids can't get which also like almost

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<v Speaker 3>never happens. There may be like one or two very

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<v Speaker 3>bizarre like outliers where someone has gone through extensive therapy

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<v Speaker 3>from a very young age that might result in them

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<v Speaker 3>receiving such surgery at like sixteen or seventeen, but that

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<v Speaker 3>is such a minuscule amount that that simply just does

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<v Speaker 3>not happen. Yeah, in any real statistical notion, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, but this is one of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard because it's like, okay, so like what are

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<v Speaker 2>they actually what are they talking about? And the answer

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<v Speaker 2>is who the fuck knows this? Cre they think this

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<v Speaker 2>is happening? Well no, But but also like because like

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, one of the things that they do here,

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<v Speaker 2>right is they they'll talk about female like they'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>about like general and mutilations like whatever, but they'll also

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<v Speaker 2>include in that like puberty blockers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course, because because to them, pauty blockers are

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<v Speaker 3>like a chemical castration device.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's all you know, this is one of

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<v Speaker 2>these things. But you know, but the thing I should

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<v Speaker 2>mention about this one that is I don't know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>something I'm short of hasident's talk about because I I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like I don't like I've torn between wanting

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<v Speaker 2>to spread panic and wanting to be like, well, this

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<v Speaker 2>is probably what's going to happen. But there's a non

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<v Speaker 2>zero chance that with how far this stuff has gone,

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<v Speaker 2>they have Republicans take the House in the Senate, that

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<v Speaker 2>this bill turns into just a full band because that's

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<v Speaker 2>what's being pushed for now by the sort of constituencies

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<v Speaker 2>that this stuff is four it's just like a full

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<v Speaker 2>ban in all care. It's way less popular than even

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<v Speaker 2>the anti transkid stuff, which is not very popular. But

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<v Speaker 2>on the other hand, like this is I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>entire thing is just Trump sort of like being like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>sure whatever to these like these weird anti transdiptions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there certainly are a percentage of Republican politicians and

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<v Speaker 3>like right wing influencers who do want some of these

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<v Speaker 3>bills to expand up to just including everyone or everyone

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<v Speaker 3>under the edge of twenty five. As as we've mentioned before,

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<v Speaker 3>I still don't think there's it's too far off to

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<v Speaker 3>say whether or not this is like something to actually

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<v Speaker 3>like worry about. In any in any real sense. It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's too murky.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But on the other hand, he is he is

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<v Speaker 2>very explicit on just banning all banning care for minors,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's this thing that he's very like, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>in the text. Right. The next one is one of

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<v Speaker 2>the this is like one of the sort of almost

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<v Speaker 2>every bill that gets passed by a state legislature now

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<v Speaker 2>has this provision that creates like quote the private right

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<v Speaker 2>of action for victims to sue doctors for anyone who

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<v Speaker 2>got any kind of gender for mcare as a minor.

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<v Speaker 2>This is We've talked about this on the show before.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is you know, this is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that lets detransgrifters who think that God talks to them

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<v Speaker 2>like try to go and destroy like doctors and clinics. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's one of the tactics that they use

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<v Speaker 2>to try to like run people who they can't otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>go after legally out of existence. So you know that

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<v Speaker 2>that that's like a that's just a sort of normal,

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<v Speaker 2>classic anti trans thing that they want to bring to Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the other important part of it is is

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<v Speaker 2>having this on a national level lets them target clinics

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<v Speaker 2>in like blue states that they otherwise normally wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, that's the big goal of a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of this federal stuff is being able to actually have

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<v Speaker 3>an effect like New York, California, the other half of

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<v Speaker 3>the country. Whereas because right wing governors are doing all

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<v Speaker 3>this sort of stuff in a lot of the red states,

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<v Speaker 3>but that is not satisfying to a lot of these people.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason why this is being pushed on a federal

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<v Speaker 3>level is to try to put as much pressure on

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<v Speaker 3>blue states as they can, just out of the desire

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<v Speaker 3>for sheer human misery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, now speaking of the desire for human visery. So

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<v Speaker 2>there is just a there is one very trump one

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<v Speaker 2>that I've actually haven't seen before. Quote direct the Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Justice to investigate big pharma and the big hospital

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<v Speaker 2>networks to determine whether they deliberately covered up horrific long

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<v Speaker 2>term side effects of quote sex transitions to get rich

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<v Speaker 2>at the expense of vulnerable patients, or illegally marketed hormones

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<v Speaker 2>and puberty blockers which are in no way licensed to

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<v Speaker 2>or approved for this use.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's deeply funny because it's just like nothing he's

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<v Speaker 3>saying is real.

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<v Speaker 2>No, like, all that's fake. The long term side effects

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<v Speaker 2>of sex transition is being extremely based and cool.

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<v Speaker 3>But no, like there's also there's just nothing to support

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<v Speaker 3>any of that notion. So even if the DOJ does

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<v Speaker 3>investigate this, they're not gonna find anything because no one's

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<v Speaker 3>trying to market testosterone or estrogen to like make money

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<v Speaker 3>off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>This is one thing that certain freaks at the Daily

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<v Speaker 3>Wire try to like talk about being like, ooh, the

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<v Speaker 3>shady pharmaceutical companies are making a most money off of estrogen.

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<v Speaker 3>It just isn't true because most people aren't paying for

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<v Speaker 3>estrogen anyway. They're getting it through like health insurance that

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<v Speaker 3>the most I have to pay for is the fucking needles.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and also and also the thing about estrogen is

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<v Speaker 2>like the majority of the people who get aestrogen or system, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>like so.

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<v Speaker 3>The majority of people who get testosterone are male bodybuilders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's like, like, have you ever fucking tried to

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<v Speaker 2>like get a like get like like even something like

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<v Speaker 2>facial feminization surgery, which is like technically speaking, is like

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<v Speaker 2>a fairly highly paid from when he's plastic surgeon. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know how long the waiting lists are for that

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<v Speaker 2>you can't even pay them to do this to you.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to pay them and then wait for fucking

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<v Speaker 2>years because no one does it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's it's something that I think, coming off

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<v Speaker 3>of like the opioid epidemic, we have certain influencers online

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<v Speaker 3>who are trying to like find different ways to tie

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<v Speaker 3>in big pharma to whatever thing they're currently talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're trying to do that with trans healthcare, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's just it is honestly, it doesn't the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>you hardly gets talked about because because it doesn't lead anywhere.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll it'll get a passing mentioned in the What Is

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<v Speaker 3>a Woman documentary, It'll get this passing mentioned by Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>but like you don't actually see anything on the legislative

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<v Speaker 3>level actually targeting this because it's just there's just nothing

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<v Speaker 3>to do. There's nothing to investigate. Also, all of these

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<v Speaker 3>drugs are approved and tested for all of these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, and it happened for decades, so like it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's simply not real.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, this is the thing where I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I think the actual effect of this with DJ would

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<v Speaker 2>just be Trump doing like random witch hunts and like

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<v Speaker 2>going through and like rating patients files for.

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<v Speaker 3>Shit, which like Peppa Pippa, you're not allowed, not allowed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the Trump gets this apartment is gonna

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<v Speaker 2>give us. So well, here's the thing. Is the Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court gonna stop them?

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<v Speaker 3>No, of course this Rene Court's not gonna stop Like

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<v Speaker 3>is such a non problem because there's just nothing to

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<v Speaker 3>do here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but it's like I don't know, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>the prospect of Trump realizing he could actually just do

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<v Speaker 2>unlimited judicial tyranny and do whatever the fuck he wants

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<v Speaker 2>in the Supreme Court, like sure seven to two will

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<v Speaker 2>be like yeah, cops have the right to like execute

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<v Speaker 2>trans prisoners or some shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's not what's currently being talked.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But I mean I I do

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<v Speaker 2>I do think there'll be sort of like fake scare

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<v Speaker 2>monger reinvestigations. I don't sure. I don't think it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just don't think it'll lead a newhere.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's mostly just like a wild goose chase

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<v Speaker 3>to satisfy whatever fucking person who watches too many right

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<v Speaker 3>wing podcasts on YouTube. So like it's it's it's I

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<v Speaker 3>don't see this as anything like super pressing.

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<v Speaker 2>The next one I think actually could be real, depending

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<v Speaker 2>on how motivated they are to do it. So the

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<v Speaker 2>next one, so this is a ban on teachers and

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who works. So this this is this is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be a directive sent down from the Apartment of Education,

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<v Speaker 2>and it it says no one who works for a school,

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<v Speaker 2>So no teachers or any school administration can tell a

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<v Speaker 2>kid that they might be trans and that the consequences

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<v Speaker 2>for this are civil like civil rights like investigations into them,

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<v Speaker 2>and also the elimination of federal funding for any school

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<v Speaker 2>district where this happens. Okay, And that's this is effect

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<v Speaker 2>What this effectively is is a threat to cut off

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<v Speaker 2>federal funding from states if they don't implement what is

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<v Speaker 2>effectively I don't say transbill that one. I think that

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<v Speaker 2>one's going to be pretty real. It kind of depends

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<v Speaker 2>on the extent to which the Department of Education is

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<v Speaker 2>willing to spend a bunch of time going through individual cases.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, like, given that it's possible that Department

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<v Speaker 2>of Education just gets filled with a bunch of like

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<v Speaker 2>deranged Trump weirdos, I think there's a real chance that

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<v Speaker 2>this one actually goes through and does stuff. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing about that one is because because that's

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<v Speaker 2>a directive through federal agencies, he doesn't it doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to go through Congress, which is sort of alarming. It's

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's one of these things where it's

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<v Speaker 2>the question of how powerful is the federal bureaucracy going

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<v Speaker 2>to be? And I tend to lean towards the side

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<v Speaker 2>of the federal bureaucracy has an imense capacity to cause harm.

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<v Speaker 2>The last part is try. He wants to get a

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<v Speaker 2>bill in Congress that ends all recognition of their being

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<v Speaker 2>non binary people and saying it the only genders are

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<v Speaker 2>men and woman. So this would do things immediately like

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<v Speaker 2>getting rid of like the ex gender marker on passports

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<v Speaker 2>and only recognizing people to sign gender at birth, which

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<v Speaker 2>means the government is now saying that only to like,

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<v Speaker 2>only two genders exist, and also that the federal bureaucracy

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<v Speaker 2>gets to assign you a gender, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>normally the exact kind of federal tyranny the Republican Party decries,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, they hate us, do they ever, do

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<v Speaker 2>they ever actually decry that sort of tyranny? Federal why

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<v Speaker 2>federal tyranny they're supposed to I think it used to

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<v Speaker 2>be their thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also less like the federal government declaring your gender.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like whatever random doctor fills out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, for sure, but sure, but the the but

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<v Speaker 2>the the government now is forcing you to, in their eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>be whatever gender that they decide that you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And we've had we've had some stuff like this,

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<v Speaker 3>try to get yeahs through in Europe and certain certain

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<v Speaker 3>US states for like their own state ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's part. I don't know why this bill

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<v Speaker 2>is these three things lumped together, but it's so the bill,

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<v Speaker 2>this specific bill is this one using Title nine to

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<v Speaker 2>stop trans women from playing in women's sports in college

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<v Speaker 2>or in schools. Sure, and then protecting the right of

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<v Speaker 2>the parent to keep your kid from transitioning, which is

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<v Speaker 2>fucking So that's fascinating because protecting the right of the

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<v Speaker 2>parent to make to have your kid not transition that

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<v Speaker 2>that's a really interesting wording there. Yeah, well, so let

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<v Speaker 2>me read the exactly exact wording. Is protects the rights

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<v Speaker 2>of parents from being forced to allow their child to

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<v Speaker 2>assume a new gender identity without the parents consent.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So they're referring to the types of parental Bill

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<v Speaker 3>of rights laws, Yeah, that have passed in at like

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<v Speaker 3>six Republican states.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So the last one I think is really interesting

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<v Speaker 2>and it kind of gives the game away as to

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<v Speaker 2>what this is all, like, what the actual point of

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<v Speaker 2>this is for someone like Trump who's not that interested,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't like transalle but isn't that interested. And this one,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay, I'm going to read it first. As part

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<v Speaker 2>of our new credentialing system, a credentialing body for teachers,

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<v Speaker 2>we will promote positive education about the nuclear family, the

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<v Speaker 2>role of mothers and fathers, and celebrating rather than erasing,

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<v Speaker 2>the things that make men and women different and unique. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is this is literally this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>legislating institutional like sexism education. Yes, And you know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the credentialing stuff. It's unclear to me how

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<v Speaker 2>this would work because it's not it's not quite the

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<v Speaker 2>same credentialing thing that you were talking about. But basically,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a federal mandate that says that you can't

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<v Speaker 2>be a teacher without teaching sexism, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is I'm sure, I'm sure the teachers unions will love

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<v Speaker 3>to take that one on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you know, I'm i and this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that I I I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you have to like go into like walk in

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<v Speaker 2>with a stick and beat them on it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>am so excited for the Trump administration has to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with an actual national teacher strike. Like, have fun with

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<v Speaker 2>that one, you dip shits.

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<v Speaker 3>This is why these types of conservatives really really hate

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<v Speaker 3>teachers unions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>They frame teachers unions as being like one of like

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<v Speaker 3>the most evil lobbying forces in America because they really

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<v Speaker 3>don't like that they don't have complete total control over

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<v Speaker 3>teaching kids whatever kind of fucked up a nuclear family

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<v Speaker 3>patriarchal bullshit that they want to like mandate by law.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so they're going to attempt to do They're

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're they're going to attempt to every every They're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna they're gonna make everyone watch a shitty Matt Walsh

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<v Speaker 2>documentary or some ship. And if you complain about it,

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<v Speaker 2>they they they prosecute you under the Civil Rights Act

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<v Speaker 2>for being good luck discrimination or something. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's Trump's plan to protect children from left wing

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<v Speaker 2>gender insanity. It's really quite bad. As funny as some

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<v Speaker 2>of it is. I mean, it's a bunch of gender

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<v Speaker 2>firming care bands sort of stitch together with stuff trying

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<v Speaker 2>to knock hospitals out from doing it, stitch to the

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<v Speaker 2>just the sexism law. Very cool. Yeah, it's quite bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Come back tomorrow for probably even worse shit. Don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>which one is tomorrow, but you'll we'll find out when

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