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Speaker 1: Alson media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome zacodapp gear podcast where the future president wants us

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Speaker 2: to die and current president doesn't give a shit. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host, Nah Wong with me as Garrison.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we're covering another aspect of Trump's agenda forty seven.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're looking at President Trump's plan to protect

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Speaker 2: children from left wing gender insanity. Now, despite that title,

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Speaker 2: this is the least trumpy of all of these. He

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Speaker 2: is just phoning this one the fucking It's the most

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Speaker 2: hymn reading off a teleprompter I have ever seen in

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Speaker 2: any speech he's ever given, because.

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Speaker 3: Historically he's never cared about this kind of stuff. He's

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Speaker 3: just having to do it now to appease the people

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Speaker 3: he needs to get votes from. But like, if you

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Speaker 3: look at Trump's stances on transgender people historically, however, not good.

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Speaker 3: They're not like a genda CIDL. And you can really

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Speaker 3: tell his hard, isn't it It's.

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Speaker 2: He I mean, legitimately, he sounds like so someone doing

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Speaker 2: an ad read for a rage shadow legend sponsorship, Like

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Speaker 2: it's it's he's so bored. There's like one. It's funny

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Speaker 2: because you can tell this just something I started happening

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Speaker 2: in the middle of the administration was you could tell

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Speaker 2: when his speech writers were just writing in a Trump

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Speaker 2: word for him to say so it would look less

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Speaker 2: like he was. And they're doing it in this one.

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Speaker 2: There's only like one genuinely trumpy thing in this Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: it all fucking sucks. Ass, it's quite bleak. So let's

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Speaker 2: let's get into what exactly is in this. I would

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Speaker 2: love to hear Trump's plan for the transgenders. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: first he wants to end Biden's executive order on gender

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Speaker 2: affirming care. Now you might be asking, wait, Mia, what

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Speaker 2: the fuck?

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Speaker 4: Wait what executive what executive order? I looked this up too,

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Speaker 4: because I was like, wait, what is he talking about?

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Speaker 4: So apparently, back in twenty twenty two, Biden issued a

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Speaker 4: series of executive orders that were supposed to protect the

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Speaker 4: rights of trans kids to get gender affirming care.

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Speaker 2: So that didn't happen. No, no, no, now these weren't. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: these were mostly stunningly ineffective. Well, I'm going to quote

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Speaker 2: from I finally found the actual executive which is disturbingly

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Speaker 2: hard to find the actual text of because everyone just

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Speaker 2: wanted you to read the press release, because what's actually

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Speaker 2: in it is okay. The Secretary of Health and Human

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Speaker 2: Services shall, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, use

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Speaker 2: the Department of Health and Human Services authority to project

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Speaker 2: LGBTQI plus individuals access to medically necessary care from harmful

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Speaker 2: state and local laws and practices, and shall promote the

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Speaker 2: adoption of promising policies and practices to support health equity,

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Speaker 2: including in the area of mental health for LGBTQI youth

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Speaker 2: and adults. Within two hundred days of this order, the

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Speaker 2: Secretary of HHS sell develop and release sample policies for

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Speaker 2: states to safeguard and expand access to health care for

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Speaker 2: LGBTQI individuals and their families, including mental health care services.

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Speaker 2: Now let's pull out for one second to try to

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Speaker 2: figure out what does that actually do. So what is

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Speaker 2: being done there. The thing that is being commanded is

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Speaker 2: that the Department of Health and Human Services make sample

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Speaker 2: guidelines for state. And then there's another part where they

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Speaker 2: committee to study trans mental health care. Uh huh, so

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Speaker 2: none of this did shit, right, But this is the

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Speaker 2: first thing that Trump's like, We're going to overturn this.

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Speaker 2: I guess the actual substantive shift here is and we'll

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Speaker 2: get to this in a bit. This didn't do anything.

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Speaker 2: This was just a pr op he does. And this

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Speaker 2: is funny because he does a series of these things

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Speaker 2: every single trans day of visibility, and then nothing ever

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Speaker 3: So many states since twenty twenty two completely restrict healthcare

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Speaker 3: not heard of a single instance where the federal government

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Speaker 3: passed these sorts of bills.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, The Justice Department has done lawsuits, sure, sure,

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Speaker 2: and I think they won like one of them. So

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Speaker 2: then this is the thing. It's coming through the judiciary,

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Speaker 2: not through the federal bureaucracy. And that's a point of

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Speaker 2: I think that he used to kill a sixteen year

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Speaker 2: But they don't do anything useful with it. And now

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Speaker 2: let's get to what Trope is going to do with

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Speaker 2: this quote. Sign a new executive order instructing every federal

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Speaker 2: agency to cease all programs to promote the concept of

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Speaker 2: sex and gender and transition at any age. Ask Congress

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Speaker 2: to permanently stop federal taxpayer dollars from being used to

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Speaker 2: promote or pay for these procedures. Okay, so that's bad.

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Speaker 2: What exactly this does is kind of murky. We're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about planned parenthood in a second, because there's

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Speaker 2: another one of these proposals that's a lot worse for

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Speaker 3: And I guess that'd be going after some level of

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Speaker 3: paid for if you have government insurance, I guess that'd

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Speaker 3: be what that's trying to target.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's like two things. One and I

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Speaker 2: it's sort of unclear, but the two main targets I

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Speaker 2: think are any kind of federal education program that talks

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Speaker 2: about queer people. Sure, and then the second one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is like if you're in the military, you won't

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Speaker 2: this is actually a pretty big deal because there are

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Speaker 2: a lot of federal employees. The federal employees health insurance

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Speaker 2: would no longer cover any gender for macare. And this

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Speaker 2: is for everyone, right because it is not.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately a lot of transgender employees at the DOT yep.

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Speaker 2: So that's very bad. Those drones, Oh god, oh you

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Speaker 2: but no, you said do two. Probably the transportation. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nones. You know, it's bad. There's an open question

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Speaker 2: here about how exactly this works. So one question that

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Speaker 2: I I'm genuinely not sure about. There's a possibility this

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Speaker 2: works like abortion funding, where so federal money can't go

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Speaker 2: so for example, you so if you are a clinic

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Speaker 2: it's possible that, you know, for example, so one of

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Speaker 2: federal money for HIV treatment. Under this wording, it seems

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Speaker 2: like they could still get federal funding for that, but

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Speaker 2: they couldn't take any money for gender firming care. But also,

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Speaker 2: Congress could just pass a bill that stops I'm pretty

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Speaker 2: sure it could pass a bill that stops all funding

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Speaker 2: for anyone who does this. So you know, this is

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Speaker 2: something that's kind of interesting about these is that this

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Speaker 2: stuff is all very very bad. It's also not quite

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Speaker 2: the maximalist genocidal policy yet, I think in large part

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Speaker 2: an older This This is from February twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: So okay, it's actually a lot older than a lot

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was before the big we must eliminate transgenderism.

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Speaker 3: Yeah thing that started with the Daily Wire, and then

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Speaker 3: Trump mirrored some of that rhetoric in his like a

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Speaker 3: It was kind of a ramp up like on some

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a good, just decent chance that this

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Speaker 2: stuff is all actually much worse when it gets as

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Speaker 2: bunched that. That's the way it's written right now, as

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Speaker 2: Medicare or Medicaid, they get knocked off of the approved list. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so that is a huge deal because that immediately knocks

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Speaker 2: out Planned Parenthood. Who plant pair whod gets this like

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Speaker 2: Sophie's choice thing of either you don't provide puberty blockers

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Speaker 2: or you lose every single person who uses Medicare and Medicaid.

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Speaker 2: And that's a lot of people. That's like I've seen

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Speaker 2: numbers that suggests it's like forty percent of people who

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Speaker 3: I also wonder how this would impact like cis, children

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Speaker 3: who need to be put on puberty blockers, because people

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Speaker 3: like decades and decades that are like well proven to

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Speaker 3: stop puberty from happening altogether. It does not cast straight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and the self that's weird here too, is

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Speaker 2: like it's the language they're using is really inflammatory shit,

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Speaker 2: So it's actually deeply unclear what the fuck they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, and I've read a lot of these

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Speaker 3: that would, ultimately, if written and acted upon as written,

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Speaker 3: would like block a whole bunch of regular medical procedures

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Speaker 3: about this because they're like, no, obviously things will continue

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Speaker 3: do that. They don't actually think about all the little

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Speaker 3: tiny ways that this will also just like interferes with

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Speaker 3: like regular medical science. Yeah, and they just digital care

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Speaker 3: for stuff like that. It just isn't it. They're genuinely

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I'm gonna read the first sentence the

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Speaker 2: first one of these, like the text of it revoke

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's cruel policies on so called gender affirming care

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Speaker 2: and quotes a process that includes giving kids puberty blockers

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Speaker 2: it's it's fucking impossible to tell whether this would result

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Speaker 2: non binary people and saying it the only genders are

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Speaker 2: men and woman. So this would do things immediately like

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Speaker 2: and only recognizing people to sign gender at birth, which

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Speaker 2: means the government is now saying that only to like,

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Speaker 2: only two genders exist, and also that the federal bureaucracy

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Speaker 2: gets to assign you a gender, which is, you know,

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Speaker 2: normally the exact kind of federal tyranny the Republican Party decries,

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Speaker 2: but you know, they hate us, do they ever, do

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Speaker 2: they ever actually decry that sort of tyranny? Federal why

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Speaker 2: federal tyranny they're supposed to I think it used to

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Speaker 2: be their thing.

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Speaker 3: It's also less like the federal government declaring your gender.

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Speaker 3: It's like whatever random doctor fills out.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, for sure, but sure, but the the but

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Speaker 2: the the government now is forcing you to, in their eyes,

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Speaker 2: be whatever gender that they decide that you want.

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Speaker 3: Yes, And we've had we've had some stuff like this,

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Speaker 3: try to get yeahs through in Europe and certain certain

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Speaker 3: US states for like their own state ideas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's part. I don't know why this bill

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Speaker 2: is these three things lumped together, but it's so the bill,

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Speaker 2: this specific bill is this one using Title nine to

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Speaker 2: stop trans women from playing in women's sports in college

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Speaker 2: or in schools. Sure, and then protecting the right of

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Speaker 2: the parent to keep your kid from transitioning, which is

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Speaker 2: fucking So that's fascinating because protecting the right of the

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Speaker 2: parent to make to have your kid not transition that

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Speaker 2: that's a really interesting wording there. Yeah, well, so let

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Speaker 2: me read the exactly exact wording. Is protects the rights

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Speaker 2: of parents from being forced to allow their child to

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Speaker 2: assume a new gender identity without the parents consent.

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Speaker 3: Yes, So they're referring to the types of parental Bill

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Speaker 3: of rights laws, Yeah, that have passed in at like

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Speaker 3: six Republican states.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So the last one I think is really interesting

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Speaker 2: and it kind of gives the game away as to

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Speaker 2: what this is all, like, what the actual point of

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Speaker 2: this is for someone like Trump who's not that interested,

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Speaker 2: doesn't like transalle but isn't that interested. And this one,

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Speaker 2: I'm okay, I'm going to read it first. As part

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Speaker 2: of our new credentialing system, a credentialing body for teachers,

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Speaker 2: we will promote positive education about the nuclear family, the

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Speaker 2: role of mothers and fathers, and celebrating rather than erasing,

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Speaker 2: the things that make men and women different and unique. Sure,

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Speaker 2: so this is this is literally this is this is

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Speaker 2: legislating institutional like sexism education. Yes, And you know, we've

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Speaker 2: talked about the credentialing stuff. It's unclear to me how

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Speaker 2: this would work because it's not it's not quite the

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Speaker 2: same credentialing thing that you were talking about. But basically,

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Speaker 2: this is a federal mandate that says that you can't

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Speaker 2: be a teacher without teaching sexism, which.

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Speaker 3: Is I'm sure, I'm sure the teachers unions will love

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Speaker 3: to take that one on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I'm i and this is one

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Speaker 2: of the things that I I I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: mean you have to like go into like walk in

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Speaker 2: with a stick and beat them on it. But I

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Speaker 2: am so excited for the Trump administration has to deal

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Speaker 2: with an actual national teacher strike. Like, have fun with

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Speaker 2: that one, you dip shits.

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Speaker 3: This is why these types of conservatives really really hate

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Speaker 3: teachers unions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: They frame teachers unions as being like one of like

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Speaker 3: the most evil lobbying forces in America because they really

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Speaker 3: don't like that they don't have complete total control over

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Speaker 3: teaching kids whatever kind of fucked up a nuclear family

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Speaker 3: patriarchal bullshit that they want to like mandate by law.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so they're going to attempt to do They're

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Speaker 2: they're they're they're going to attempt to every every They're

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Speaker 2: gonna they're gonna make everyone watch a shitty Matt Walsh

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Speaker 2: documentary or some ship. And if you complain about it,

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Speaker 2: they they they prosecute you under the Civil Rights Act

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Speaker 2: for being good luck discrimination or something. So that's that's

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Speaker 2: that's that's Trump's plan to protect children from left wing

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Speaker 2: gender insanity. It's really quite bad. As funny as some

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Speaker 2: of it is. I mean, it's a bunch of gender

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Speaker 2: firming care bands sort of stitch together with stuff trying

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Speaker 2: to knock hospitals out from doing it, stitch to the

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Speaker 2: just the sexism law. Very cool. Yeah, it's quite bad.

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Speaker 2: Come back tomorrow for probably even worse shit. Don't remember

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Speaker 2: which one is tomorrow, but you'll we'll find out when

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Speaker 2: we do.

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