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Speaker 2: This is your producer, Buddy Peace checking in on behalf
Speaker 2: of your regular host Brett Goldstein, just to keep you
Speaker 2: posted on what's happening with this and a couple of
Speaker 2: future episodes of films to be buried with podcast. Basically,
Speaker 2: due to the ongoing SAG after a strike, we will
Speaker 2: be temporarily on pause and there will be a few
Speaker 2: rewind episodes or rewind classics as Brett would call them,
Speaker 2: on deck for you to check out. Essentially, these are
Speaker 2: re released episodes, but I've gone back and sifted through
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Speaker 2: a little trim here and there where necessary. So there
Speaker 2: are a great chance to catch up on some past
Speaker 2: show from our archives with guests you either know or
Speaker 2: have missed, perhaps or maybe people you'll yet to be
Speaker 2: acquainted with and would enjoy this week. In an episode
Speaker 2: originally aired on February the twenty first, twenty nineteen, another
Speaker 2: pre pandemic one Were We Ever So Young, Brett is
Speaker 2: joined by the fabulous comic Athena Coblenu, who at the
Speaker 2: time of recording was a mere seven weeks into her
Speaker 2: new position as parent. It's a truly enjoyable get together
Speaker 2: which was recorded in person and has a delightful energy
Speaker 2: which you'll definitely get on board with from the start.
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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, Welcome to Films to be Buried with.
Speaker 1: I am Brett Goldstein, and I am joined today by
Speaker 1: a hit actor, a writer at stand up and a
Speaker 1: brand new mother literally weeks ago. Please welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: The brilliant athene Es. Now, a couple of things I'd
Speaker 1: like to say about you, if I may, I first
Speaker 1: saw you to stand up because I went to see
Speaker 1: my friend Amiannette and Amiannette macfirst.
Speaker 3: That's where we first.
Speaker 1: Met Mac first. Yes, you, Amyenette and Bischa Ali. Yes,
Speaker 1: we're doing a threes up. And I didn't know you too,
Speaker 1: but I knew Aim in it and you were fucking
Speaker 1: I mean you were all firing brilliant, but you were brilliant,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, she's good this one. And the
Speaker 1: other thing I wanted to say about you is you
Speaker 1: have had a baby. Congratulations, had a baby seven weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Yes, seven weeks ago, so she's yeah, just over seven
Speaker 3: weeks old.
Speaker 1: Now, congratulations, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But what is interesting is to me is that I
Speaker 1: emailed you to ask you to be on the show
Speaker 1: and you said, yes, I'm about to have a baby,
Speaker 1: but should be fine dates, and I thought I'm never
Speaker 1: going to hear from her again. And then I believe
Speaker 1: you emailed me on the day you'd given birth or something,
Speaker 1: and I thought you must be high on drugs and
Speaker 1: you were like, it's fine, Actually I feel fine.
Speaker 3: I could come to I probably was pie, but I
Speaker 3: normally am. So it was like, no, I'm I don't
Speaker 3: know I'm a very I tend to overpromise, right, but
Speaker 3: I also over promised and just deliver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah here.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I must have said I'm a baby,
Speaker 3: just give me a couple of weeks, but then I
Speaker 3: should be okay.
Speaker 1: And I said, don't you know, obviously see how it goes,
Speaker 1: and I think it's fine.
Speaker 3: It is fine. I guess it's fine. But I'm very
Speaker 3: lucky because my baby is pretty chilled out at the moment.
Speaker 3: You know, I always say to people, she only cries
Speaker 3: when she's hungry or naked, so there are very easily
Speaker 3: rectified situations, you know. Yeah, she takes off to the dad,
Speaker 3: don't cut that, keep in, so that's quite you know,
Speaker 3: that's easy enough. And other times when she's crying, she's
Speaker 3: just fussing because she can't see a mobile or because
Speaker 3: I've changed the channel, so that's kind of easy. And
Speaker 3: I'm at home with somebody who does all the cooking
Speaker 3: and cleaning, to the point where I'm actually dying to
Speaker 3: like do some cooking cleaning. Yeah, because I'm a fairly
Speaker 3: I like to do stuff. I don't really like to
Speaker 3: be waited upon. You know, my time for that will
Speaker 3: come you know, but right now. So when you have
Speaker 3: that and you're just with the baby, they're surprisingly easy
Speaker 3: to manage. So we need to support. So what I'm
Speaker 3: saying is, if you're putting off kids, don't do that.
Speaker 3: They're really easy. If you want to support, have kids.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about that. Have kids.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, and that concludes you're probably.
Speaker 3: Worried about like the stress. Just get someone. See the
Speaker 3: washing and cooking. That's the thing, that's the that's the
Speaker 3: hard thing. This is not what you put us.
Speaker 1: It's about no, it is now.
Speaker 3: The hard thing is because you're doing with the baby,
Speaker 3: you can't do with anything else. So it's the housework,
Speaker 3: it's the cooking, it's the shopping so you can get
Speaker 3: that stuff sorted.
Speaker 1: Babies looks great, fun mate, So I just need a
Speaker 1: full time worker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need a full time worker. I think they
Speaker 3: call them mums. That's what they call them. I think,
Speaker 3: which actually I'm a mom. Oh no, that doesn't work
Speaker 3: because I might have to do that. Scratch that.
Speaker 1: What I've told you is you're like twenty years, twenty
Speaker 1: thirty years away from this, yeah for that route.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, then I don't want this podcast to come
Speaker 3: back to walk me to play it to me? Is
Speaker 3: excuse me? You send this podcast that moms do all
Speaker 3: the work, so yeah, you might have to cut that.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's I mean, quite amazing. And is it is
Speaker 1: this like can I ask this? And I don't mean
Speaker 1: this only because I know answer been out a lot well.
Speaker 3: Yet no, away from the baby, not a lot. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's probably this is actually borrowing a couple of hospital
Speaker 3: visits that were I'm planned. There wasn't a big deal,
Speaker 3: but I had to just get some stitches sorted out. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you shouldn't say things like that without because it's not
Speaker 3: a big deal, but it sounds like a big deal. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but this is the second time I've been out without her,
Speaker 3: both work related. That's how ambitious I am. That's how
Speaker 3: hungry I am, guys, or is it like no, it's
Speaker 3: actually quite I think at the moment, I'm spending all
Speaker 3: my time with her, so when she's not with me,
Speaker 3: I'm like there's something missing, you know. I'm like, it's
Speaker 3: like leaving the house about your trousers on. It's like, so, yeah,
Speaker 3: I do feel a little bit, and I feel bad
Speaker 3: because I didn't move in with my mum to her
Speaker 3: to do childcare stuff. But I've actually been like, yeah,
Speaker 3: just popping out seeing a few hours. But she likes
Speaker 3: it too, she likes having alone time with the grandchild.
Speaker 3: But yeah, don't necessarily enjoy being away from her. But
Speaker 3: I think it's a healthy thing to do.
Speaker 1: I think it's good because it means you've got you've
Speaker 1: got new stories. First, you know, she'll be like, what
Speaker 1: have you been up to? And you have like if
Speaker 1: you've been hanging out all the time, yeah, and also.
Speaker 3: What exactly, And she's very interested in my day. She's
Speaker 3: a very selfless child, like, get that nipple out of
Speaker 3: my mouth, Mum, you tell me about how Brett is.
Speaker 3: Tell me about So she's good like that, But if
Speaker 3: you're around the baby all the time, it's not great.
Speaker 3: You just you lose your vocabulary because the only words
Speaker 3: you know are oh, you know, you lose. You stopped
Speaker 3: forming complete sentences. So it's quite healthy, I think to
Speaker 3: get out. And also it's I have to get used
Speaker 3: to asking people to do things for me when you're
Speaker 3: when you're a parent, you have to get used to
Speaker 3: whether you're in a kind of situation where you're with
Speaker 3: your partner, or you could be in the most heteronormative,
Speaker 3: you know, position where you've got all the help in
Speaker 3: the world, but you have to ask for the help,
Speaker 3: which is quite a hard thing to do. We're not
Speaker 3: used to it, the feel used to it. So to
Speaker 3: ask for help is that it's quite good to get
Speaker 3: the practicing. So can you watch her for a couple
Speaker 3: of weeks or whatever?
Speaker 1: So, man, that's interesting. Do you like films?
Speaker 3: Do I like films? Funny to last that, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: do like films. Yeah, I'm into films. I like films.
Speaker 3: Who doesn't even think? Yeah, well, if they do, they
Speaker 3: do like films, they just don't like good ones. Yeah
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Like I used to go
Speaker 3: out the guy who didn't like films, but he thought
Speaker 3: The Fast and the Furiust was like the best movie ever.
Speaker 3: So ifact he thought the best movie ever was the
Speaker 3: remake of Charlie's Angels, you know, they child one with
Speaker 3: Drew Barrymore. And then yeah, so he liked films, He
Speaker 3: just liked rubbish films. So it's like, you're not gonna
Speaker 3: like movies if you only like rubbish movies, If that
Speaker 3: makes sense. Yes, So they just needed education. That's what
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 1: So do you go to the cinema and stuff?
Speaker 3: I do cinema. I went cinema. My baby loved it.
Speaker 3: When I was pregnant, she loved going to the cinema. Yeah,
Speaker 3: she would. Well, she either loved it or hated it
Speaker 3: because she because I couldn't tell because she was in me.
Speaker 3: But she used to bounce around low to the She
Speaker 3: was into crazy rich Asians like that, and she liked
Speaker 3: Black Clansmen too. Those are her two favorite movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: she went nuts for crazy. For crazy, it's Asians. I
Speaker 3: think you know. That movie just made me really hungry.
Speaker 3: The shots of the food, it was like Master Chef,
Speaker 3: but like on a big screen. It was phenomenal. So
Speaker 3: I got quite excited whilst watching it. So I think
Speaker 3: she got quite excited whilst watching that based on that.
Speaker 3: And she liked Black Landsmen too, So yeah, she's got
Speaker 3: taste a ready.
Speaker 1: That's really good. That is a really good baby. I mean,
Speaker 1: Black Clansman is maybe my film.
Speaker 3: It's a great film, and I wasn't. I don't know
Speaker 3: why I wasn't expecting it to be good. I think
Speaker 3: sometimes with Spike Lee, your expectations to be super high. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and sometimes it can. I don't know, you can get
Speaker 3: lost in the spike leism of the movies. That makes sense,
Speaker 3: you know, Spike must be good. But I really like
Speaker 3: Blacklands Men because it had a really nice central humor
Speaker 3: about it, and it was really undramatic, and it was
Speaker 3: really satisfying. It was so nice to watch a movie
Speaker 3: that had a satisfying ending in this in this economy
Speaker 3: we need things should just work out. In fact, because
Speaker 3: of that, I'm going to change one of the answers
Speaker 3: to my questions.
Speaker 1: Great, yeah, all right. Oh I think I've forgotten to
Speaker 1: tell you something. Oh God, it's really bad that I
Speaker 1: haven't told you. Oh, especially with all it's going on.
Speaker 1: I should have told you this.
Speaker 3: Top I'm dying to know. Now what have you told me?
Speaker 1: I don't even I hope you're going to be all
Speaker 1: right with it, but oh shit, well I'll just well,
Speaker 1: I'll just come out of it. I guess you've died.
Speaker 3: Oh no, where did I die?
Speaker 1: Now? How did you die?
Speaker 3: How did I die? I died Yeah as a ninety
Speaker 3: seven year old. Yeah, but having done drugs all week
Speaker 3: because I don't really do drug I don't like being
Speaker 3: out of control. I'm a control for you. But it
Speaker 3: would be like extity on a Monday, kept them on
Speaker 3: a Tuesday, cocaine on a Wednesday, heroin a Thursday, you know,
Speaker 3: a meth on a Friday. So that way, that's the
Speaker 3: best time, just to find out what it's like to
Speaker 3: be that hiy on those.
Speaker 1: Drugs and then you die from an overdose, which is
Speaker 1: your body exploded.
Speaker 3: What probably yeah, just just an overdose, really an overdose
Speaker 3: eventually after week of that. I'd like to be it
Speaker 3: was an overdose. I take the week of that and
Speaker 3: it can run over my car. That would be really
Speaker 3: really silly. But actually, well maybe that would be a
Speaker 3: great way to do, to do all those drugs and
Speaker 3: still not die.
Speaker 1: Tell me again, exercise, was there an order came in
Speaker 1: on Tuesday? Wednesday? Yeah, and then the meth. You went
Speaker 1: running like a mad person into the street and.
Speaker 3: You go, yeah, that sounds like a nice way to go.
Speaker 1: I think that's great. Yeah, I mean I'd be for
Speaker 1: that way of day.
Speaker 3: Intrigued. I'm just intrigued to know what those drugs feel like.
Speaker 3: The only thing I'd do is alcohol, right, So I'm
Speaker 3: probably missing out on something because people come millionaires with
Speaker 3: that stuff. Yeah, that's yeah, that's that's how I died.
Speaker 1: It's a great death. Do you worry about death?
Speaker 3: Not especially. I'm quite risk of us. So that's probably
Speaker 3: why I don't worry about death, because I'm I take
Speaker 3: every precaution to not die in my life.
Speaker 1: But that would suggest you're worried about death.
Speaker 3: No, no, No, I'm risk averse. That's different. I'm worried
Speaker 3: about dying because I've got stuff to do, but I'm
Speaker 3: not worried about death.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I can imagine on the way here, if I didn't
Speaker 3: take these precautions, then I wouldn't have made it. Then
Speaker 3: we wouldn't be having that conversation, this conversation.
Speaker 1: So you're worry more about missing out in life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: death itself doesn't scale.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not especially worried about. In fact, death in
Speaker 3: many ways is great because you finally get the answers
Speaker 3: to all of the questions.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you some good news, good news.
Speaker 1: There is an after life, just as we predicted. There's
Speaker 1: a heaven and it's great and they're so pleased to
Speaker 1: see you there. Also, so that mac Fairs is a
Speaker 1: huge fan.
Speaker 3: Oh, brilliant that got me to heaven.
Speaker 1: But they just want to talk about films. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about your life through films. And the first
Speaker 1: question they ask you is what is the first film
Speaker 1: you remember seeing.
Speaker 3: It's the Animal Olympics. Don't look like that on every
Speaker 3: It's on every Christmas. I have no idea who made it.
Speaker 3: I have no idea where this movie came from. It's
Speaker 3: just the movie about animals that partake in sport. No,
Speaker 3: it's a cartoon. It's from like if I could date it.
Speaker 3: I think it's from the seventies. But it's the Animal Olympics.
Speaker 3: And I tried to google the Animal Olympics at the
Speaker 3: Animal Olympics and I couldn't find this movie. So I
Speaker 3: think I've made it up. But it's generally true and
Speaker 3: it's on I'm sure it's on every Christmas, every Chris.
Speaker 3: I'm oh, the Animallympics are on. I'm going to watch
Speaker 3: this because it was with my childhood.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't exist on Google.
Speaker 3: Well it probably, I'll be honest, it was a lack
Speaker 3: loss to search a child. Let me look at let
Speaker 3: me look for it now. But it's the.
Speaker 1: Animals and there might be people listening going, Yes, the
Speaker 1: Animal Olympics. I have to admit it's not ringing.
Speaker 3: It's a film from the nineteen from nineteen eighty and
Speaker 3: ninety seven. People will like.
Speaker 1: This movie ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a sick movie. Man, it's really cool.
Speaker 1: It's literally animals doing Olympics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what I say about it. But I
Speaker 3: just remember loving it.
Speaker 1: I made it. Second, I'm googling it now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you should google it.
Speaker 1: Wait in a second, I do recognize this and Crystal,
Speaker 1: it's the.
Speaker 3: Animal okay, the Animal Olympics.
Speaker 1: Then if you said that, where I can find it.
Speaker 3: It's spelled differently, Billy Crystal did a vorce and it
Speaker 3: Harry Shearer, Oh my gosh, I have no idea. That's
Speaker 3: great taste. This is but made by Liz Burger Studios,
Speaker 3: the world famous animation studios up there with and that's
Speaker 3: probably why. So now you that you've got to find
Speaker 3: that and you'll love it. You had a very unhappy
Speaker 3: childhood because you never watched animal.
Speaker 1: That was the problem. I had a very.
Speaker 3: But they never showed you that animal.
Speaker 1: How old were you do you remember?
Speaker 3: I can't remember, maybe five or six, maybe old enough
Speaker 3: to be conscio just of being in front of the
Speaker 3: TV and watching it And where was this in my
Speaker 3: living room in my house? Where in North London?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I've got a twin brother and an older brother,
Speaker 3: so I should have asked a few members of animals
Speaker 3: because we would have watched it together. But I think
Speaker 3: there's something about what's the word for when you make
Speaker 3: animals like humans? And yeah, I wanted you. There's something
Speaker 3: about that that children just love, isn't it. That's why
Speaker 3: we like the Jungle Book and all that stuff. And
Speaker 3: not only did they do that thing, they made them
Speaker 3: the Olympics. And I liked sport, so this is great.
Speaker 3: This is like, this is like watching sport done by animals.
Speaker 3: Like sport is just humans pretend to be animals, isn't
Speaker 3: it when you think about it, Like the long jump,
Speaker 3: that's all we do we started. Rather than like mess
Speaker 3: about on computers and writing books, we just actually know
Speaker 3: we're lyings racing each other. Yeah, that's why I liked
Speaker 3: it so much, because philosophically, it's just basically humans acting
Speaker 3: like that that they are, but getting animals at like humans.
Speaker 1: Wow, there you go. How old is your older brother?
Speaker 3: He's thirteen years older than me.
Speaker 1: Okay, are you close to it? Everywhere?
Speaker 3: Family? Where's this going? Podcastal therapy?
Speaker 1: So do you remember the first one we saw the cinema?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been the cartoon version of Human
Speaker 3: and sheirare, oh, yeah, because we used to get I
Speaker 3: don't know if this is a real memory. We used
Speaker 3: to get dumped at the cinema for the Saturday Club
Speaker 3: whilst my mom would do shopping. Right, this is this
Speaker 3: is a thing. Kids used to get dumped in places
Speaker 3: whilst parents went off to do stuff, but not places
Speaker 3: with supervision. These were childcare places, just anywhere, like go
Speaker 3: play in the part for two hours whilst I go
Speaker 3: and do something else. So you can't you can't do
Speaker 3: that now because of Trump. I think I can't remember
Speaker 3: what you got, so, yeah, it would have been. That's
Speaker 3: the first film I remember being the cinema for.
Speaker 1: Did you love it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Of course we loved Heman and we had all the
Speaker 3: toys and we used to watch the cartoon every Saturday
Speaker 3: morning and every day really, and it was I remember
Speaker 3: getting feeling really invested in their characters because he managed
Speaker 3: she Ra we're brother and sister, and I had am.
Speaker 3: So that gives you the exbit of investment in the
Speaker 3: story because you just think, oh, yeah, man, like, I'm sure,
Speaker 3: Ra like, that's we have so much in common. She ra,
Speaker 3: Let's hang out. I've got a brother. You've got brother.
Speaker 3: You know, I've got knives at home. You've got sword.
Speaker 3: You know that's cool. I've got face, you've got facet's
Speaker 3: hang out. So that's the first. Yeah, I don't have
Speaker 3: any memory of going cinema before that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a pretty good start. What is the
Speaker 1: film that scared you the most.
Speaker 3: I knew the answer to this instantly. That was The Descent.
Speaker 1: Oh fucking great.
Speaker 3: That's a great film. And the only time I've ever
Speaker 3: really been scared by a horror movie in the cinema,
Speaker 3: to the point where I remember this clearly. I was
Speaker 3: watching it with a friend in the cinema, and after
Speaker 3: the movie we couldn't go home because I was I
Speaker 3: went to her house to have sugary tea because it
Speaker 3: was horrific. Yeah it was. It's a jump movie. It's
Speaker 3: just got to jump every five minutes, if not every
Speaker 3: three minutes, and it's hideous and it's I personally have
Speaker 3: a I don't have a phobia of it. But I
Speaker 3: think one of the worst ways to die probably be
Speaker 3: trapped in a cave underground. When you hear about these
Speaker 3: stories like those kids in Thailand or a Chilian mine,
Speaker 3: is I feel mortified for because it's just a horrible
Speaker 3: way to go just being trapped under ground. Yeah, So
Speaker 3: it takes that and it adds like kind of flesh
Speaker 3: eating themes. Yeah, and also full of women in that
Speaker 3: movie before before yeah, before it became a thing before
Speaker 3: that's like, there's women in this movie.
Speaker 1: It just was.
Speaker 3: It was just a movie led by women, and a
Speaker 3: prettish movie at that. And they're going to make The
Speaker 3: Descent too. Did they do that? Oh no, I never
Speaker 3: watched it. It must have not been very good.
Speaker 1: It's not terrible, but it sort of does. It's a
Speaker 1: bit like in a way like Psycho Too or something,
Speaker 1: where it's not a bad film, but it sort of
Speaker 1: negates the first film because you remember the ending of
Speaker 1: the first film. Yeah, yeah, it has to sort of
Speaker 1: break that role and it turns out, oh no, she's
Speaker 1: got out.
Speaker 3: That's what happens. They make these amazing movies and they
Speaker 3: don't expect them to be successful, and then they leave
Speaker 3: them open ended and or they don't leave them ended,
Speaker 3: and when they're successful, they're like, oh, Okay, she found
Speaker 3: the ladder, here's the ladder. Whatever. However, I don't know
Speaker 3: how does she get out? You can, you can?
Speaker 1: She just gets or they find someone that people are
Speaker 1: like searching with them and they pull her out, but
Speaker 1: then she has to go back in.
Speaker 3: But she's missing like an arm and a leg because
Speaker 3: they're fleshyting.
Speaker 1: No, No, she's all right, but they make her go
Speaker 1: back in and she's all traumatized.
Speaker 3: Right then I left my watch down there something.
Speaker 1: And then they have more more trouble down there.
Speaker 3: See why don't they just have a completely new story
Speaker 3: of the same but like Inside Number Nine, which isn't
Speaker 3: a movie, have the everything to be the same but
Speaker 3: a different set.
Speaker 1: Of Yeah, and then you fas women, Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: going to be scary but a different thing.
Speaker 3: Or like fifty years later people go down into the
Speaker 3: save cave, you know, or fifty years ago in the past,
Speaker 3: but no, they have to ruin it.
Speaker 1: Do you normally like horror films? Yeah? I do.
Speaker 3: I normally enjoy them, but I don't normally get scared
Speaker 3: by them. I like a good horror movie, Like I
Speaker 3: still I like Scream. Actually I say like horor movies.
Speaker 3: I can't think of one that I like. Do you
Speaker 3: like horror movies?
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the water I'm missing out on?
Speaker 1: Well? I mean the one that fucked me up with
Speaker 1: Hereditary ory Okay, I've not seen that, but I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I recommend it.
Speaker 3: Because everyone said that was hideous, hideous movies to put
Speaker 3: me off. Isn't that bad? I'm gonna watch it. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna make a notices to watch it because everyone said
Speaker 3: it was like really scary.
Speaker 1: I think it. But basically I think horror. Horror is
Speaker 1: horror is like comedy because it either works or it
Speaker 1: doesn't for you. And I know people who I know
Speaker 1: people who are absolutely terrify the Hereditary and people who
Speaker 1: can't give his ship movie Insidious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a really good horror movie. In fact,
Speaker 3: underrated people when you know about it. Yeah, but I
Speaker 3: saw that in a cinema. I saw that with the
Speaker 3: cinema with a guy. He was terrified. It was that
Speaker 3: cliche of like the role river, so he was absolutely
Speaker 3: terrified by this movie. But I could see what he
Speaker 3: was terrified you on a date? Yeah, he was. It
Speaker 3: was my ex. Yeah, but I always remember in that movie.
Speaker 3: I might be making this up, there's a scene where
Speaker 3: there's a box and we're like, what's in the box,
Speaker 3: And I've got a phobia of an animal. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: name the animals. I'm scared of it. I'm scared if
Speaker 3: I tell people what it is, they'll tweet me switches
Speaker 3: off it anyway, And I remind me, no way, because
Speaker 3: you're anyway. I'll tell you afterwards when the when the
Speaker 3: recordings off, and you can tweet it. In my life,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be anyway. I remember thinking, oh my god, oh,
Speaker 3: never I seen empty box. I think that animals is
Speaker 3: in the box because I scared of the animal, terrified,
Speaker 3: And then in that movie that animal was in the
Speaker 3: box and I was so that scared me.
Speaker 1: But I think I know the animal, and I think
Speaker 1: my the movie animal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, most people, most normal people do. It's ordinary fabua
Speaker 3: to have.
Speaker 1: Because the fucking weird animal. To be fair, let's talking
Speaker 1: about it. What's the film that made Oh? Hang on,
Speaker 1: I do want to know this genuinely. If I may.
Speaker 1: You're on a date with your ex he's terrified, You're not,
Speaker 1: but he's acting scared. Does it make you find him
Speaker 1: more or less attractive?
Speaker 3: Oh, ask a question? Possibly a bit less. I knew it.
Speaker 3: I stayed the same, nothing changed, No, probably less or more.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess in terms of you always
Speaker 3: judge people that it's finely, gonna talk about this later,
Speaker 3: but you always judge people their taste. You can't help it,
Speaker 3: So maybe think of it this is a bit light.
Speaker 3: Wait do you know, like come on, like if this
Speaker 3: scares you, like, wait, wait, we talk about marriage, you know,
Speaker 3: we're talking about the real scary stuff. So part of
Speaker 3: me was probably like a little bit like I think
Speaker 3: at first I was like, oh, this is quite cute.
Speaker 3: But then when he started shivering and stuff, I.
Speaker 1: Was like, how are you going to look after me?
Speaker 3: Exactly scared of this bus? So exactly how you're going
Speaker 3: to kill the spiders and stuff? More or less, I
Speaker 3: would say, if I'm going to be accurate, I will
Speaker 3: say slightly, slightly less. But these things really depend on
Speaker 3: all these other kind of variables, like where you start
Speaker 3: off with with the person, you know, how much you
Speaker 3: like the other things you know, but they might be
Speaker 3: scared of movies, but they might have no fear of
Speaker 3: other things like commitment. So so it really depends.
Speaker 1: This is why if the film is going to be said,
Speaker 1: I go on my own and I do not take
Speaker 1: a lady because from.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, yeah. Absolutely. If a cry, if a
Speaker 3: guy shared it, well, again depends on the movie. If
Speaker 3: it's Beaches ball Away, you're not human if you don't
Speaker 3: cry that film, you know. But if you know, if
Speaker 3: it's like I don't know something there, yeah, why that
Speaker 3: means you clearly do not want to be in a
Speaker 3: relationship with me. If you cry, you're in Basically that's
Speaker 3: not the heterosexual male reaction to basic That's the movie.
Speaker 3: When we were kids, when I was young, like in
Speaker 3: primary school, that came out all the kind of all
Speaker 3: the horny young boys like there's a movie. Basically we've
Speaker 3: got to watch it, and now we look at it,
Speaker 3: and that's the tamest. That's the tamest movie. I think
Speaker 3: a parther than the leg Cross. There's nothing. What else
Speaker 3: happened in the movie.
Speaker 1: I can tell you.
Speaker 3: Because it made you cry so much, maybe going to
Speaker 3: get in touch with your emotions. There were some really
Speaker 3: crap sexual movies made in the ac.
Speaker 1: It was before we had Yeah, do you remember Sliver?
Speaker 1: I remember Sliving?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that and basically every David the Coffee movie ever
Speaker 3: did that. Yeah, of course. Yeah, that's we were very
Speaker 3: repressed in the eighties. Americans because they were all American
Speaker 3: movies are very repressed. They just made really bad movies
Speaker 3: about sex, and that made little.
Speaker 1: Always with the billow and curtain always.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always thought, closed your window and it's quite windy.
Speaker 3: Out a lot of Yeah, the last thing you whilst
Speaker 3: you're having sex is a windows a cold gas wide open. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just blowing things around.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can we speak? Speaking of their crying, what's the
Speaker 1: film that made to you cry?
Speaker 3: The most rabbit proof friends? From the star of that
Speaker 3: movie to the end of that movie. I think it's
Speaker 3: a hideous history and it's really and it's tool for
Speaker 3: the eyes of children, and it's yeah, what can Anyone
Speaker 3: who doesn't cry in that movie is probably racist. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it's to tell. If anyone doesn't hasn't seen the movie.
Speaker 3: I do recommend it because it's right. I'm terrid with
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. I have no idea who
Speaker 3: directed it or wrote it, but it's supposed to be
Speaker 3: a true story, and yeah, and it's really sad. And
Speaker 3: it's sad because it doesn't have happy ending. It has
Speaker 3: a it has a really bittersweet ending. Yeah if you
Speaker 3: don't know if you remember it, but can can we
Speaker 3: do sport? It's basically about it's basally about three abidinal children,
Speaker 3: these three girls who are kidnapped and they get taken
Speaker 3: into like almost like a workhouse and from their families
Speaker 3: and this face is thousands of miles frowhere they originally
Speaker 3: from and they decide to escape, and the three of
Speaker 3: them eventually escape. But what happens is, to cut a
Speaker 3: long story short, two of them make it and one
Speaker 3: of them doesn't. And then you cut to the two
Speaker 3: people who do make it right at the end, and
Speaker 3: they tell you that the third person actually died, and
Speaker 3: they talk about how the reason it's really sad is
Speaker 3: because of this epilogue. I think, I mean, I was
Speaker 3: crying whole way through it. But eflog's terrible because they
Speaker 3: say it didn't just end there because then they had children,
Speaker 3: and these two girls had their children taken away, and
Speaker 3: it sort of it sort of makes you realize like
Speaker 3: it's a story about kind of what happened to Aboriginal
Speaker 3: people in Australia, and it makes you realize it didn't
Speaker 3: just happen like to one person or one people. It
Speaker 3: happened there with generations, you know. But the way the
Speaker 3: movie is filmed and the way it's played out on
Speaker 3: screen just it's heart it's literally heartbreaking every scene and
Speaker 3: you want them to succeed so badly, and oh the
Speaker 3: sad thing is you it's got collaborators, and so there
Speaker 3: are Aboriginal men in the movie that betray them, which
Speaker 3: is like quite common I think in these kind of
Speaker 3: societies where people sort of think it's oh, it's sort
Speaker 3: of Europeans against like the indigenous people, but actually there
Speaker 3: are advantages to people who come onto the side Europeans.
Speaker 3: It's survival, Yeah, it's survival. And also they're indoctrinated too,
Speaker 3: so they might hate themselves, so they believe that what
Speaker 3: they're doing is for the greater good. It has everything
Speaker 3: that's sad about everything that's ever happened in the world
Speaker 3: in terms of like colonization and imperialism and racism is
Speaker 3: in that movie. And it's not necessarily something that we're
Speaker 3: that educated about. War wale of as well kind of
Speaker 3: other you know, people know about South Africa, people kind
Speaker 3: of know about North America, but it's we kind of
Speaker 3: we know that there's a there's an all history attached
Speaker 3: to the way Australia is colonized, but we don't see
Speaker 3: it as a colony as such, and we don't see
Speaker 3: it's post colonial. And I think that's why we forget
Speaker 3: the violence of that history. So yeah, I pretty much
Speaker 3: cried throughout the whole of that film.
Speaker 1: History is really bad, isn't it. It is the more
Speaker 1: you learn, the where you go.
Speaker 3: Ever make movies about happy history, Yeah, well, if they do,
Speaker 3: it's to celebrate something some white dude like sea biscuit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, person doing as it's.
Speaker 3: Like a thirteen or something like that. But when it
Speaker 3: comes to the history of nations and people, it's normally
Speaker 3: just about oppression and death, injustice and sadness. But yeah,
Speaker 3: what happens to these three girls is unforgivable. I think
Speaker 3: that I don't know what's happened to the two surviving women,
Speaker 3: but it's it's depression. I don't want to talk about anymore.
Speaker 1: Stuck, Sorry you're stuck crying now? Yeah, yeah, definitely that's okay,
Speaker 1: that's all right, it happens, Philip, No, it's the director
Speaker 1: also made the film Dead Calm.
Speaker 3: Did he really have not seen the Calm? Exactly? What
Speaker 3: that made me cry?
Speaker 1: That would not make you cry? Thriller?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: I think Nicole Kimmon's second film, and it's got Sam
Speaker 1: kneeling and it's got Billy zaying.
Speaker 3: What a great cast. That is a great cast it
Speaker 3: would have been at the time.
Speaker 1: It's really it's really great. I always asked this, what
Speaker 1: happened to Billy Day is he was should have been massive? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Theory I think Jay Adams had this there, and I
Speaker 1: think she's right, is that it was in Titanic, and
Speaker 1: because everyone loves Titanic so much and he hit Kate Winslet,
Speaker 1: we never forgave him for.
Speaker 3: It really was the end of we need to revisit that.
Speaker 3: I think we need.
Speaker 1: It's great.
Speaker 3: I think that that's exactly what she deserved to be hit.
Speaker 3: I found a quite moony in that movie. I found
Speaker 3: it extremely moaning. Right at the end of the movie
Speaker 3: when she kind of doesn't bother to lift it out
Speaker 3: from the cold, harsh sea. She deserved a smack. Yeah,
Speaker 3: quite frankly, Now I found her whiny and MONY felt
Speaker 3: the whole movie, and I never lost my love for
Speaker 3: Billy Billy come back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who'll be next?
Speaker 3: Bond?
Speaker 1: I don't know what's a film that's meant to be
Speaker 1: bad critically? It's not very well like most people think
Speaker 1: it's ship, but you're like, I love this film. I
Speaker 1: don't care.
Speaker 3: So I actually have a few for these, but I
Speaker 3: don't think these are critically bad movies. So the first one,
Speaker 3: obviously is Commando, which is which is a great film.
Speaker 3: I don't understand any critic that doesn't like it because
Speaker 3: it's got all It's got all the best lines in it.
Speaker 3: You know when I said you last, I lie, he's
Speaker 3: dead tired, all that stuff that's brilliant, Like you can't
Speaker 3: take the Judus, all that kind of stuff. Also, all
Speaker 3: the actresses and actors in that movie went on to
Speaker 3: become big things. So what great casting. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: little girl whose name I forget, who's famous now it's
Speaker 3: obviously Arnie, and there's other people in there. Hu, but
Speaker 3: I know that guy. You know, it's one of those movies.
Speaker 3: I know that guy. So that's and it's just yeah,
Speaker 3: it's and if it's on and your channel flicking and
Speaker 3: Commandos on, you found your evening, you're even you're saw it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're not gonna change that channel. So command is a
Speaker 3: great film. I always watch it if it's if it's on,
Speaker 3: the other one is I think this is critically a
Speaker 3: good film. But just in case people aren't aware of
Speaker 3: how great a movie is The Bodyguard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think The Bodyguard was sort of like a
Speaker 1: three star.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not enough. It's a five star movie. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's brilliant. It's a great movie. It has the best scenes,
Speaker 3: it's got Whitney, it's got Kevin Costner at the height
Speaker 3: of his powers. This is Field of Dreams Era. Isn't
Speaker 3: that great movie?
Speaker 1: I love I love that film. That.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is quite sad. It's quite sad that the
Speaker 3: James L. Jones character, all the pathos is with him,
Speaker 3: really and he's like and he's lost you. It's a
Speaker 3: beautiful filled the dreams. So like Kevin was like a
Speaker 3: cool guy. It's got a great scripts. It's really really snappy,
Speaker 3: it's got it's got it's got family, jealousy and betrayal,
Speaker 3: it's got psychos. So, yeah, the Bodyguard is a film
Speaker 3: that I think it's got So it's got songs. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's got the best of them in fact that you
Speaker 3: don't really get. You know, when you watch movies like
Speaker 3: dream Girls and stuff, I always feel like they're not
Speaker 3: that great. They're just glamorous, you know, they're just like
Speaker 3: really great singers singing songs, but just like boring nothing
Speaker 3: much else happens. But The Bodyguard just is actually a
Speaker 3: really good film. And I think it feels like I
Speaker 3: done roll very well.
Speaker 1: By guy does not come up on here that I
Speaker 1: would accept that as your answer?
Speaker 3: Good, yea, that's my answer, were great? Did accept it?
Speaker 3: Then we have to cut it in keep another movie.
Speaker 3: I do have another movie, you want the Rock, But
Speaker 3: it can't be like critically acclaimed because Nick Cage is
Speaker 3: in it. It has everything. It's got made up science
Speaker 3: and Sean Connery, who I always feel like it's a
Speaker 3: all shame his career petered out. Yeah, it kind of.
Speaker 3: I think he just made a few really terrible films
Speaker 3: in his as he got older, and he just could
Speaker 3: quit because you've had enough.
Speaker 1: Do you think it was entrapment?
Speaker 3: Entrapment definitely, and the League of gentlemen.
Speaker 1: I think he said he never wanted to make a
Speaker 1: film again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think he turned down Gandalf. So that
Speaker 3: was the thing that made me think I forget this
Speaker 3: business because that could have been. Imagine if Sean Connory
Speaker 3: had been Gandalf. I didn't need it. He's a really
Speaker 3: big he didn't need it. Spread the love. And do
Speaker 3: you think there's like a real rivalry between like all
Speaker 3: the old white all the old white.
Speaker 1: Actors, probably after like Alec Guinness did Star Wars and
Speaker 1: when he did Star Wars he was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what, yeah right, he was going anytime an old
Speaker 1: white actor gets offered a sort of fancy take it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll do DC, they'll do anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's so I feel I feel bad because Sean Connery,
Speaker 3: I think in that movie is great.
Speaker 1: He is great. And it's also the thing about The
Speaker 1: Rock that I like other than everything is it's a
Speaker 1: good bad guy. The bad guys causes just like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah wrong, yeah, but his point is valid.
Speaker 3: It's not a boring kind of like I'm going to.
Speaker 1: Take over the world. He's like, you owe us for ship. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It makes the action seems really really fun because you
Speaker 3: kind of kind of for both of them, it's all
Speaker 3: win win.
Speaker 1: What is a film that you used to love, you
Speaker 1: loved it years ago, and then you've watched it recently
Speaker 1: and you've gone, oh, dear, this is not dated.
Speaker 3: Well right, don't hate me, but it's the Blues Brothers.
Speaker 3: That's just what's the point of that movie? Nothing happens.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hate you. I mean, it's a scriptures.
Speaker 3: I feel nothing happens. And I kind of think there's
Speaker 3: a lot of eighties movies that are supposed to be
Speaker 3: mostly with John Belushi, that's supposed to be hilarious, Like
Speaker 3: I don't like What's the College one where they go yeah,
Speaker 3: even yeah, even at my house. I sort of watched that,
Speaker 3: and I just think this is just a bunch of
Speaker 3: people who were giving a cocaine budget, had a bit
Speaker 3: more money to film something, and they film it and
Speaker 3: everyone thinks just hilarious. But I sort of feel like
Speaker 3: if I made that movie now, I just wouldn't work again,
Speaker 3: Like I don't think I would. But the Breeth Budders
Speaker 3: in particular, I think, for I think what people like
Speaker 3: are the kind of imagery that's come out of it.
Speaker 3: So they remember that stupid thing about the sunglasses with
Speaker 3: dark Moron and sunglasses, that thing, they remember the suits,
Speaker 3: remember the scene with no the singer he just died recently,
Speaker 3: I've got this is my baby, Aretha Frankin is my baby?
Speaker 3: Remember that? And that's it. But if you watch the
Speaker 3: whole movie.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just like a skepch, isn't It's lots
Speaker 1: of sort of set pieces and music.
Speaker 3: It's boring.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not saying no sketches of Waring, but I'm
Speaker 3: saying it's a movie like it's sketch show for nineteen minutes.
Speaker 3: It's the reason why sketch shows are like twenty two minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there's a reason why we just watch sketches on YouTube
Speaker 3: now because we can deal with one and then we
Speaker 3: have to, like, you know, live our lives. I don't,
Speaker 3: but so I think I might have liked it when
Speaker 3: I was young because everyone else liked it and I
Speaker 3: watched that. The other one is The Jungle, because well,
Speaker 3: nothing happens in youngle.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey what what just.
Speaker 3: But just just let's let's be clear that nothing happens.
Speaker 1: In the jungle.
Speaker 3: This is except okay, what happens, what happens. What happens
Speaker 3: is give me a beginning, middle and ends.
Speaker 1: Okay. A baby man cub man cub Yeah, gets sent
Speaker 1: down the river, left in the jungle. Yeah. Wolves find it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: raise it as their own.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Grows up a bit now he's like interested in stuff
Speaker 1: she can who's a tiger wants to kill the man
Speaker 1: cub Why because the man?
Speaker 3: Obviously stuff happens in loads of shit, but it doesn't
Speaker 3: feel like loads of stuff happens. It just feels like
Speaker 3: it could be better.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid I cannot accept that.
Speaker 3: Well, my ass is the Blues Brothers, but second place
Speaker 3: of Jungle Book, which I feel is an overrated Disney movie.
Speaker 3: I feel like it moves far too slowly, and I
Speaker 3: don't like the songs that much, other than Blue Song,
Speaker 3: which is quite good.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ is curious.
Speaker 3: And animal that I hate is in it too, which I
Speaker 3: can't deal.
Speaker 1: That's true, the animal you hate is in it, And okay,
Speaker 1: that's your reason for like a jungle Book, and that's okay.
Speaker 1: But if your reason is because it's boring unacceptable.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's slightly done as well. My God
Speaker 3: is going to take my child to get angry like
Speaker 3: the Jungle Show with you, this child going to grow
Speaker 3: up in a house without Jungle.
Speaker 1: I will be making a report at the end.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do that.
Speaker 1: What is the film that has the most meaning to you?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily because of the film itself is any good,
Speaker 1: but because of the experience you had around watching it.
Speaker 1: Might have been a first date, might have been the
Speaker 1: day you got a job, might have been a day
Speaker 1: you lost a job. But you'll always remember that film
Speaker 1: because of that thing.
Speaker 3: So initially, when you hear my answer, you're gonna disappointed,
Speaker 3: because my answer is White Chicks. White chis is a
Speaker 3: terrible movie. It's really bad. Yeah, it's it's bad for
Speaker 3: lots of reasons. But the reason why I liked it
Speaker 3: is because I watched it with someone who at the
Speaker 3: time I quite liked, and I think we were just
Speaker 3: like channel It's oh, I got to love this baby.
Speaker 3: But he didn't like it in an ironic way. No,
Speaker 3: he liked it in the kind of this film is hilarious,
Speaker 3: This is funniest, And bear in mind, like you know,
Speaker 3: I make people laugh for a living. So when you
Speaker 3: find something funny that's not particularly funny, that that bothers
Speaker 3: me a lot. You know, I don't like that, But
Speaker 3: then I really like this guy, and I remember thinking
Speaker 3: to myself, Wow, let's say I come about my mam.
Speaker 3: I think I met him through workplace. You have a
Speaker 3: lot of jobs, and I'm thinking, Wow, if he had
Speaker 3: like a Tinder profile, and his Tinder profile said I
Speaker 3: like white chicks, I'd have been liked. So I get
Speaker 3: out of my smartphone, get off my screen, go be
Speaker 3: gone right, And I would never he was actually quite
Speaker 3: an intellectual dudes like, would never have put this movie
Speaker 3: on him, and he genuinely liked it. He was pissing himself,
Speaker 3: laughing even at the dudes dancing in Yeah, that's quite good.
Speaker 3: But when he's.
Speaker 1: Dancing with you, with your guy.
Speaker 3: I'll give you his number, you can a great time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And I kind of like the Waynes Brothers and stuff
Speaker 3: like I think this stuff is cool, but that movie
Speaker 3: is just shocking, but I ever think it's wow, Like
Speaker 3: you can't judge people by taste of that. I got
Speaker 3: a lot of learning out of that because I was like,
Speaker 3: if this is all I had known about you, you
Speaker 3: would not be here right now, eating my food, drinking
Speaker 3: my drink, using up my heating bills, door whatever. But
Speaker 3: I thought, oh, this is like, this is interesting. Like
Speaker 3: I remember thinking about how everyone right now is meeting
Speaker 3: people online and they're saying I'm not interested, I'm not
Speaker 3: sure something. But it's actually like it takes a long
Speaker 3: time to like somebody, you know, and it takes more
Speaker 3: than just kind of like what we can't be based
Speaker 3: meeting people on And I remember thinking, Wow, this is
Speaker 3: a dude i've met in a vote additional way. He
Speaker 3: does something that in another in another If I make
Speaker 3: him another fashion, i'd have been like next, I've been like,
Speaker 3: I need to upgrade you. It's ridiculous. We're not obviously.
Speaker 1: How long does it last post White Chicks?
Speaker 3: A couple of years?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, having been through that, but now you're not together,
Speaker 1: do you think are you sticking with You can't judge
Speaker 1: someone based on their.
Speaker 3: Taste, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. If anything, it's good to
Speaker 3: have different tastes to the person that you're dating or
Speaker 3: hanging out, even with your friends.
Speaker 1: I think that's good. So White Chicks made you see
Speaker 1: the word Yeah.
Speaker 3: It made me think, oh, well, here's a guy I
Speaker 3: really respect and he likes some one of the worst
Speaker 3: movies I've ever been made. So you know, maybe I
Speaker 3: rethink my rethink my opinion of him, well, not rethink it,
Speaker 3: maybe just except that he likes white chicks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I went to see the worst. I think it's
Speaker 1: the worst reviewed Adam Sandler film, which that's not that's
Speaker 1: my boy, and it's, I think said, the only one
Speaker 1: that's like R rated, And it's got lots of lots
Speaker 1: of jokes that's a very appropriate and stuff. And the
Speaker 1: setup is he was fiddled by his teacher when he
Speaker 1: was a kid, but his teacher was Susan Surranding, and
Speaker 1: because his teacher was fit, he's sort of grown up
Speaker 1: to be a legend. He's like, you fucked missus whatever.
Speaker 1: That's like his How.
Speaker 3: Did these films get green lit? I just don't know
Speaker 3: how you start writing a film like that, And if
Speaker 3: you just keep going, that sounds amazing.
Speaker 1: I went on a date with a woman who I
Speaker 1: had a relationship with for some time, and she loved
Speaker 1: so much she was crying with laughter, and it made
Speaker 1: me love her. I really it may also made me
Speaker 1: really enjoy the film. So I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'd have enjoyed this in any other senseance,
Speaker 1: but the fact that you are on the floor after really.
Speaker 3: Pay for the ticket.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good.
Speaker 3: Then what was happening there as you were going this
Speaker 3: wasn't a waste of my money, that's all. What's happening
Speaker 3: there's even you telling me the snotter That movie is
Speaker 3: making the bile in my stomach and boil, and you
Speaker 3: can see it evaporating from my mouth. It's just I mean,
Speaker 3: come on, So, just to be clear, a boy is
Speaker 3: sexually harassed, really abused teacher and he becomes famous because
Speaker 3: the teacher was hot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the setup. And then becomes a teller and
Speaker 1: he's like a legal legend.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't end with him send therapy.
Speaker 1: He goes to visit in prison. Eventually she comes out
Speaker 1: of she gets caught, but then she comes out at
Speaker 1: the end and they still have it for each other.
Speaker 3: Well, there's something in there about an older woman being
Speaker 3: the love interest. It's a shame that she has to
Speaker 3: be a pedophile. But small steps, yeah, small steps towards Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's called that's My Boy, Right.
Speaker 1: What is the film that you thought was the sexiest.
Speaker 3: Easily Layer Cake really crazily hot in that movie. You
Speaker 3: need to watch it. Watch it again. Now I've told
Speaker 3: you he's really hot in that movie, and you'll be like, actually,
Speaker 3: he's really hot in this movie. But at first I
Speaker 3: think it's a great film anyway, it's one of my
Speaker 3: favorite British movies. I think, ok, it's a good film.
Speaker 3: I think it's probably again, it's one of those films
Speaker 3: that I guess people forget about. It's one of those
Speaker 3: massive lock stock or whatever. It's got great scenes, it's really funny.
Speaker 3: The Cockney is hilarious. The one who was in The Standers,
Speaker 3: I've really had the names. Anyway, there's a funny guy
Speaker 3: and that used to be Standers and he's a Cockney
Speaker 3: and he's funny in it. It's got guy from Brookside
Speaker 3: in it. That's cool, Yeah exactly. But Daniel Craigs really
Speaker 3: hot in it, and he spends a whole movie just
Speaker 3: being hot, walking around in like little tight t shirts,
Speaker 3: you know, acting stressed out. Well, yeah, in that kind
Speaker 3: of tense kind of way. Yeah. At the time, I
Speaker 3: think that was the movie that the Bond producer saw
Speaker 3: that made him think he's going to be James Bond.
Speaker 3: And then when you when you watch the movie again,
Speaker 3: knowing that information, you're like, oh my god, yeah, of course,
Speaker 3: the way you help, the way he runs around his gun.
Speaker 3: He does that thing that James Bond done with the gun,
Speaker 3: which you know, that thing where he's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: doing it.
Speaker 1: You did a really good moment of I would describe
Speaker 1: it as gun fingers. Yeah, hiding behind them and then
Speaker 1: popping their head out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly what he does. Yeah, that's what James
Speaker 3: Bond does a lot. Like you're hiding behind your gun.
Speaker 3: They're still going to see you. But it looks good
Speaker 3: on film, right, Yeah, yeah, and it's yeah. I just
Speaker 3: he's hot in that movie as much more to say
Speaker 3: the fact that I find to Daniel Craig and.
Speaker 1: Then you must have lost your ship when James Bond happened.
Speaker 1: Then is it less sexy than cake?
Speaker 3: No, less sex and cake. He's never he's not stressed
Speaker 3: because the plots of James Bonds now are so convoluted.
Speaker 3: I don't have time to fancy Hi, I'm too busy
Speaker 3: trying to figure out I don't know what's happened in
Speaker 3: any one movie ever since Danny Craig with James Bond.
Speaker 3: All I know is that lots of people die. The
Speaker 3: body count is shut up a lot. Well, that's all.
Speaker 3: I don't understand Bond movies anymore. They really convoluted.
Speaker 1: But Dan, I think I've never understood them. I think
Speaker 1: they're always far too complicated, and I'm up in what's happening.
Speaker 3: They've gotten way more complicated though, to the point where
Speaker 3: they he'll kill someone. I thought that guy was your mate.
Speaker 3: I don't what's going on. Or they'll just suddenly be
Speaker 3: in a new country in a noose climate. We're in
Speaker 3: a desert now, says Yeah, So I think that one
Speaker 3: maybe is just expensive, now, aren't they It's just kind
Speaker 3: of like expensive. They just spend money on stuff.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you this side question? Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: traveling bone is worrying? Why Jones?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is there a film that you found sexy that you
Speaker 1: felt I probably shouldn't.
Speaker 3: Not that I shouldn't. I think justify every woman who
Speaker 3: is HETEROSEXU will probably say the Fox in robin Hood
Speaker 3: obviously lovely. Everyone says that because it's true.
Speaker 1: If I listen, I like Maid Marian.
Speaker 3: They're very and also what they go through kind of
Speaker 3: sets you up. That's what relationship should be, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's really romantic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know why the fox is hot in it,
Speaker 3: but the fox just is. So maybe it's his teeth.
Speaker 3: He's got my smile.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was also going to say Orlando Bloom and all
Speaker 3: of the rings simply because he is he is an
Speaker 3: elf point years. Yeah, because like, fancy him when he's
Speaker 3: not an elf. He's not my type. When he's like
Speaker 3: Orlando Bloom when he's the elf, he's riding that horse
Speaker 3: like yeah, but he's got you know, he looks like
Speaker 3: he's got point of years. He's got like where's green?
Speaker 3: Like all elves should I wouldn't say green is good
Speaker 3: color on men in general. Yeah, yeah, he's got he's
Speaker 3: got long blonde Pamela Anderson hair, which is not my
Speaker 3: thing normally ever, actually, but he is on him as
Speaker 3: an elf, I do that. Yeah, So that was But
Speaker 3: the Fox would be the most embarrassing one for me
Speaker 3: because he's obviously.
Speaker 1: An Animal Olympics heading back to the stah.
Speaker 3: But I didn't really have a crush on him. But
Speaker 3: I was quite young when I watched Animal Olympics.
Speaker 1: Absolutely formative. I can I ask you one thing going
Speaker 1: back on it to chase. One thing that I can't
Speaker 1: stop thinking about it is that you said that Danna
Speaker 1: Peg looks looks hot and he's wearing a tax shirt
Speaker 1: and he's stressed out.
Speaker 3: It's because you're wearing a T shirt. Now you're stressed.
Speaker 1: It's funny that man being stressed out.
Speaker 3: I think I'm probably using the wrong word because basically
Speaker 3: the whole movie is about him thinking someone's trying to
Speaker 3: kill him. So he's running around. Yeah, so he's running around.
Speaker 3: He's trying to kill me. But in doing that he
Speaker 3: does very manly things like in that in that in
Speaker 3: a very kind of hextenatic way and mentioned me men.
Speaker 3: So he runs around killing people, punching people, holding off
Speaker 3: against walls, going away, doing dodgy dealings. So I think
Speaker 3: it's the things that his stress makes him do that
Speaker 3: makes you go, oh my god, if on your man
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff for me, you know, that would
Speaker 3: be amazing. Killing people, yeah, against walls, taking and like
Speaker 3: he does, he drinks and does drugs in the very
Speaker 3: kind of hot way. There's that thing where he puts
Speaker 3: the he puts the kind of the paraceitt on table
Speaker 3: and he crushed it with glass and he put then
Speaker 3: he puts the powder into the whiskey and drinks the whiskey.
Speaker 3: That's kind of hot in a kind of man way.
Speaker 3: It's a great film filled with cliches, and the film
Speaker 3: is so good you don't realize the cliches until you
Speaker 3: talk about talk about it now. I'm like, God, this
Speaker 3: is with the cliches. And also he gets beaten up,
Speaker 3: which is quite a hot thing to happen to a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: not so much. You know the Bond movie where he
Speaker 3: gets tortured. You've got that far, that's too far. But
Speaker 3: he gets he gets a good pistol whipping. And women
Speaker 3: we do like it when men get pistol whipped.
Speaker 1: Why is that?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's just nice seeing a guy get pistol wiped.
Speaker 3: Isn't that because you want to look after you and
Speaker 3: put plasses on you and stuff? Yeah? Am I talking sense?
Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a scene. I'm aware there is
Speaker 1: a scene that I think is very like It's always
Speaker 1: seemed sort of romantic to me, but I think it
Speaker 1: plays on that. In the Red of the Lust, Yeah,
Speaker 1: when Indiana Jones is like injured and she's when is
Speaker 1: it hurt here, here, here, and it's a really nice.
Speaker 3: That is well everyone. I always say that Harrison Ford's
Speaker 3: like one of the like just a great action movie
Speaker 3: hero because he's always gets hurt injured, and he's always
Speaker 3: vulnerable and it's just played he does that so well.
Speaker 3: And it is like I think it plays well in
Speaker 3: terms of being the chats to the guys because you
Speaker 3: just want to nurse them. You know, when Daniel Craig
Speaker 3: is getting his head smashed in by a freezer and
Speaker 3: freezer door, You're like, oh, no, they did to Daniel. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was trying to kill him, man, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. So you know, and yeah, there's lots of
Speaker 3: movies where he's getting there's lots of parts in that
Speaker 3: movie who's been misunderstood, So you're like you're totally on
Speaker 3: his side, Like, no, listen to him, stop beating him up.
Speaker 3: He's trying to tell you something. Yeah, and it's got
Speaker 3: a great ending, which wasn't in my It's got good ending.
Speaker 3: And I'm so glad they didn't make a k too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have had to do a dissent and change.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just static. I'm so happy that it just exists.
Speaker 3: As a piece of art in history, as a kind
Speaker 3: of a decent movie, and it's got great soundtrack too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good answer. I will accept it. What
Speaker 1: is the film that you most relate to to me?
Speaker 3: Ages answer this, and then I suddenly it is tricky
Speaker 3: on and my answer is Black Panther.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 3: Can I tell you more? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I can tell you more.
Speaker 3: Why can I relate to it? On lots of levels?
Speaker 3: First of all, it's I think it's a really multi
Speaker 3: layered movie, probably more so than people give it credit for.
Speaker 3: I think we have to think about it. But it's
Speaker 3: got this whole theme running through it of kind of
Speaker 3: like being from somewhere but taking from that place and
Speaker 3: having to kind of have a relationship where the place
Speaker 3: you're from even though you're not from there, if that
Speaker 3: makes sense, which is a big part of kill Monger's
Speaker 3: struggle because he's just his struggle is.
Speaker 1: That great bad guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, totally justified guy.
Speaker 3: Justified bad guy that you totally sympathized with, And in
Speaker 3: many ways, kill Monger's solution in the movie is totally correct.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like, why don't we with this really
Speaker 3: powerful nation, whenn't we use our powers and our expertise
Speaker 3: and our technology just just get our own back, so
Speaker 3: to speak, and to take back what's odds as vinly
Speaker 3: as it will take from us. And it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it sounds about right. I can't argue with it, really,
Speaker 3: And it's relatable in the sense that I think what
Speaker 3: plays out in Black Panther, with the Black Panthers character
Speaker 3: with Killmonger, and also with Black Panther's girlfriend who so
Speaker 3: Lapisa's character is kind of like the three approaches to
Speaker 3: how you deal with being a post colonial person in
Speaker 3: a post plan in your country or coming from post
Speaker 3: country and living in someone like America or the UK
Speaker 3: or Europe or whatever. And it's nice to see that
Speaker 3: played out in like a really fun way because it's entertaining,
Speaker 3: but it's not depressing. Because we were talking about how
Speaker 3: history movies are always they just always makes you cry
Speaker 3: because they're so depressing. It's quite nice to see that
Speaker 3: conversation in a kind of a slightly more exciting context.
Speaker 3: And yeah, very autimistic as well. And it's it doesn't
Speaker 3: it doesn't portray kind of the idea of Africa as
Speaker 3: something as something that has suffered for having contact with
Speaker 3: your opinions. That portrays the idea of what could have
Speaker 3: been if there was no contact, which is what it
Speaker 3: was before, you know, pre colonalism or pre European kind
Speaker 3: of because before colonism there was this general exportation. So
Speaker 3: it's a really enjoyable film in that sense, And you
Speaker 3: do think I think the conversation that came out of
Speaker 3: the movie was who do you agree with? You agree
Speaker 3: with the Peter tore with kill One with du Black Panther,
Speaker 3: And interesting was most people didn't understand that Peter had
Speaker 3: a role in having a third way because it's kind
Speaker 3: of it's a commentary I think on on how kind
Speaker 3: of men overtake the voice of women. So throughout the
Speaker 3: movie just going hey, why don't we do this, and
Speaker 3: bat Fan to go, look, we're too busy, right, And
Speaker 3: obviously then you've got kill Monger going well, this is
Speaker 3: this is what my ambisions are. And actually the Peter's
Speaker 3: third way in the movies, I think a sensible way,
Speaker 3: which is to do a bit of both. Oh, I
Speaker 3: think what I think is really annoying about the movies
Speaker 3: the way it ends. It ends with Black Panther taking
Speaker 3: responsibility for things that America should be taking responsiblity for right,
Speaker 3: which is which is really interesting, and it's sort of
Speaker 3: saying that we can't. What it's saying is you can't
Speaker 3: expect these countries that exported you to fix your situations.
Speaker 3: So there's a bit of a pan Africanist message at
Speaker 3: the end, which is really subtle because it just looks
Speaker 3: like a nice ending when you think about it, saying
Speaker 3: is maybe if we all have a similar history of displacement,
Speaker 3: maybe we need to bypass the states that are supposed
Speaker 3: to looking after us, and maybe we need to think
Speaker 3: of or think of a way in which you can
Speaker 3: support each other without needing the states to do what
Speaker 3: the're supposed to do, because you know, America should be
Speaker 3: looking after that particular project that Kilmore came from and
Speaker 3: building a basketball court or the school, whatever the hell
Speaker 3: they're going to do, right, But if they're not going
Speaker 3: to do that, and they never will and that's never happened,
Speaker 3: it never will happened, what's the alternative? So I like
Speaker 3: the messages of pan Afghanism. I like the way it
Speaker 3: portray the different ways we can respond to being descendants
Speaker 3: of oppressed people. And I liked the movie in itself
Speaker 3: as whole as a whole, and it's like a great
Speaker 3: feminist piece too, because all the women are like, you know,
Speaker 3: the women that are are in the army is made
Speaker 3: up a women. Well, what can you say? You know,
Speaker 3: it's amazing. So it was relatable because it had a
Speaker 3: really intellectual conversation, which you don't often get from Marvel movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also it sort of has a similar I
Speaker 1: feel the same similarly about get Out, which on paper,
Speaker 1: the themes of get Out like an Oscar winning, heavy depressing
Speaker 1: film about racism. And it's so like you could if
Speaker 1: I told you, if I said to you want the
Speaker 1: subject will get out? That sounds like a boy. It's
Speaker 1: so fun.
Speaker 3: It's really entertaining.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fun. And the same with Black Hand. You
Speaker 1: got there's ship legs going on in here, and it's
Speaker 1: really entering and fun, and it just makes you think
Speaker 1: we've been doing this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's true.
Speaker 1: We don't have to be so fucking.
Speaker 3: And it's true. I think the problem is a lot
Speaker 3: of these movies are made by white people, whereas when
Speaker 3: you get black people, we don't spend all days. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm going, oh my god, life's really hard, Like we
Speaker 3: find all of this quite funny, and it is ridiculous
Speaker 3: when you think, and racism makes no sense fundamentally. So
Speaker 3: it is important. Get Outs great because it's called get Out,
Speaker 3: and you see the whole movie going get the hell out.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, from the from the minutes she brought
Speaker 3: him donuts, I was like, what she bout him donuts for?
Speaker 3: She's up to something, get out, get out of there.
Speaker 3: There's something up with that. Don't breakfast is not healthy?
Speaker 3: You know she wants exactly something's like right there? Yeah, great,
Speaker 3: that's a great movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, lovely good, really good answer. What is the film
Speaker 1: objectively you think is the greatest film of all times?
Speaker 1: Might not be your favorite, but you go, this is
Speaker 1: the pinnacle of cinema.
Speaker 3: Yeah that's I'm glad you said that because it's not
Speaker 3: my favorite movie, but it is what I think is
Speaker 3: everything a kind of movie should be. So the movie's Heat,
Speaker 3: Oh excellent, which is I just everything about Heat is
Speaker 3: kind of I just think it's flawless, really, and it's
Speaker 3: like ten hours long or whatever, like it's a really
Speaker 3: long movie, but you don't know. You sit through that
Speaker 3: and will start off in its day and or finish
Speaker 3: or with the next day.
Speaker 1: We still watch it heat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. It's really well cast. Yeah, for me
Speaker 3: to like a movie with just one black person, that's
Speaker 3: a big thing, you know, that's that's impressive. You know,
Speaker 3: the black persons Dennis Haes, but the President's twenty four president. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's great. It's I really like movies with kind
Speaker 3: of like where you don't know who the goodies and
Speaker 3: the baddies are, where there's like personal conflict, whether it's
Speaker 3: that kind of you've got the family versus the job,
Speaker 3: you've got the romance versus the being a criminal. He's
Speaker 3: got great lines in it, It's got great scenes. He's
Speaker 3: got the best shoot out ever. Yeah, and I really
Speaker 3: like Michael Mann. I think he's a bit of a
Speaker 3: genius to sort of write and direct and have that
Speaker 3: kind of to have like that kind of you can
Speaker 3: you can tell when you're watching the mic A Man movie.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, they're all kind of different,
Speaker 3: like if you compare it to Collateral, you compare it
Speaker 3: to like Mammy Vice or whatever. They're all kind of different,
Speaker 3: but they all have that kind of that his style.
Speaker 3: I'd love him to make a movie in London. Because
Speaker 3: he showcases cities really well. He just he makes wherever
Speaker 3: his movies are set, you've finished those films really understanding
Speaker 3: the locations, you know. I think it's all to do
Speaker 3: with those overhead shots that he does and where he films,
Speaker 3: you know, the seat, whether it's in restaurants or the
Speaker 3: houses he chooses or whatever. So I relike Michael Man
Speaker 3: and I like his I just like. I just think
Speaker 3: he's a genius the way his plots to work out
Speaker 3: his characters. But he think if you want a Berry
Speaker 3: filmmaker and you watch Heat, that should be what you're
Speaker 3: aim for. And if you're not aiming for that, then
Speaker 3: you should probably just go and just accept you're going
Speaker 3: to make the Bluese Brothers again. Yeah you're Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: a serious film. He really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it hasn't come up on this. I don't think
Speaker 1: has not.
Speaker 3: Really that surprises me.
Speaker 1: Really good film, possibly Abatino's last, good performance.
Speaker 3: Absolutely well, what's he been in since I can't even yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't even think him and Robert.
Speaker 1: De Niro, to be fair, The Little Fuckers, since that's
Speaker 1: very good.
Speaker 3: That classic. Yeah, but and the Valkilmo as well.
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, what he does, well, he did
Speaker 1: kiss kiss bang bang. He's good.
Speaker 3: Okay. Was he before or after Batman?
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 3: I think it was.
Speaker 1: Before before before. Yeah. What is the one film that
Speaker 1: you could or have watched the most over and over again?
Speaker 3: The truth is it's the Sound of Music. Great, that's
Speaker 3: the film I've probably seen the most in my life.
Speaker 3: I would say, I really like the Sound of Music. Probably,
Speaker 3: I don't even get how good. The scriptures in that
Speaker 3: movie have the best line The captain has the best
Speaker 3: put downs. The nuns have great put downs too. They
Speaker 3: throw somewhere shame. Yeah, yeah it is. They're just it's
Speaker 3: just the whole. It's just everybody. The nuns are roasting Maria,
Speaker 3: and the captain is roasting the manager or the guy
Speaker 3: that wants to manage the kids, so to speak. And
Speaker 3: the great thing about the Sound of Music, which is
Speaker 3: totally doesn't get it, doesn't get enough credit for this,
Speaker 3: is that the women in it aren't like bitchy. In
Speaker 3: actual fact, what we forget is the captain's fiance or
Speaker 3: wife let him go with Maria. She'd rather than do
Speaker 3: what would normally do in Hollywood, which would be like
Speaker 3: she'd just be the evil, the evil old woman who's bitter.
Speaker 3: She finally realizes that the captain loves Mirria, and she's like, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: do your thing, which is like a really honorable thing
Speaker 3: to do, and it probably happens more often in life
Speaker 3: than we realize. But in Hollywood or whatever, it's always about, Oh,
Speaker 3: that woman's jealous. Naw, she's evil, Go choose Maria. She's weird.
Speaker 3: But in the end it's like, oh, you know what, man,
Speaker 3: She's like, she doesn't. She does her little thing at
Speaker 3: the beginning to kind of get her away from him,
Speaker 3: and she realizes this is not gonna work. Like they're
Speaker 3: supposed to run off and live in the mountains or
Speaker 3: whatever they do. But I realized sad music. I watch it.
Speaker 3: I think again, like Animal Olympics is on all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's always on a New Year's Day, So
Speaker 3: that's my thing. I watched The Sound of Music.
Speaker 1: It's really good. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And on top of that, it does have like the
Speaker 3: great songs as well, So if I'm not that into musicals,
Speaker 3: but I'm into the salam bang bang it yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: and what else and Ralph Man. I remember being a
Speaker 3: young person, I never think I've not forgiven him. Is
Speaker 3: it Ralph? No, it's Ralph. Ralf's the guy who blows
Speaker 3: the whistle. So they're hiding in that grave in the cemetery.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I thought you're talking about a different film.
Speaker 3: No, No, he's the guy that lils in love with
Speaker 3: and eventually he blows the whists at the end. So
Speaker 3: I think when you're a kid, to have a movie
Speaker 3: staying in memory for like a real long time, a
Speaker 3: rational hatred of someone that doesn't exist, you have to
Speaker 3: be like, I can't stack. And every time you watch
Speaker 3: it as a kid, because you're not that smart, you
Speaker 3: think maybe he won't do it this time, but he
Speaker 3: always be that goddamn whistle.
Speaker 1: And do you think that's why people got with Star
Speaker 1: Wars bloody Yeah?
Speaker 3: Possibly, yeah, because because you hate them so much and
Speaker 3: you believe in that good versus evil narrative so much,
Speaker 3: you just you just you're just diet. You're willing for
Speaker 3: the good person to win so badly. But then obviously
Speaker 3: the end of some music, the nuns helped them out
Speaker 3: by taking out the start motor or whatever country, whatever
Speaker 3: bit of the car it is, And so you feel like,
Speaker 3: has that horra moment. If you have a good horra
Speaker 3: moment in a movie, it will stand the test of time.
Speaker 3: Like Yeah, which goes back to Black Handsmen, which has
Speaker 3: a great moment at the end where you think die
Speaker 3: but the way then Yeah, then right at the end
Speaker 3: we get reminded that we shouldn't. It's just a movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, great answer. Be negative. We're going to get quickly. No.
Speaker 3: I love being negative.
Speaker 1: What's the worst film you've ever seen?
Speaker 3: Crash?
Speaker 1: Which one they put the Yeah, the one that.
Speaker 3: Everyone said was a good film. It was just an
Speaker 3: I just don't what annoys me about generally happens in Hollywood.
Speaker 3: It's just this kind of the self congratulatory liberal bullshit,
Speaker 3: just like, oh my god, it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: we shouldn't be racist guys, Oh my god, we're all
Speaker 3: the same, We're just people. And it's just trash. It's
Speaker 3: just so trash, you know. And it's just, oh, just
Speaker 3: because you've given a ludicrous and acting job doesn't mean
Speaker 3: you're not a racist, you know. I mean, it's just
Speaker 3: and Terrence Howard's it isn't it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And his character is annoying. It's not only and Sandra
Speaker 3: Bullock is annoying standard. I guess the whole the whole
Speaker 3: thing is righteous and just like what do you want Hollywood?
Speaker 3: A cookie? And this is what annoys by when people
Speaker 3: feel like there's like injustices, like well, this film should
Speaker 3: have won the oscool, this film should want I sort
Speaker 3: think they give out the oscars willingly, like they just
Speaker 3: don't care. And could you imagine how little the people
Speaker 3: on that very committee must have known about movies to
Speaker 3: give that a best How little do you know? I
Speaker 3: bet those are people who still watch the Blues Brothers, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't like films. If you think that's the best
Speaker 3: film that was made that year, you can't.
Speaker 1: But I think the reality issars is like it's politics.
Speaker 1: It's it's like what is a what is being campaigned for?
Speaker 1: And it's also what makes that slip good? Yeah, I think, look,
Speaker 1: this is a film about Ray, so we're good if
Speaker 1: we pick this one. But they didn't even watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. No. And when we when we talk about sort
Speaker 3: of the liberal elites and how clueless they are, that's
Speaker 3: a great example. So this when America talks about when
Speaker 3: this whole conversation happened in America about people who sort
Speaker 3: of say, Hollywood is out of touch and all these
Speaker 3: series out of touch and these actors out of touch.
Speaker 3: That would be a really good example how they really
Speaker 3: are out of touch, because it's it's it's a crap film.
Speaker 3: It has nothing interesting to say, it has nothing interesting happens.
Speaker 3: It's it's just very poor social commentary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I think it's the sort of thing. God,
Speaker 1: sometimes I think things like that do more harm than
Speaker 1: good because in a way, it's almost like some people
Speaker 1: feel like I've seen that film, I've done it now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I saw The Help. Yeah. It's basically
Speaker 3: Emperor's New Clothes, I think. And it's it's basically like
Speaker 3: just films about race made by people who already have
Speaker 3: the privilege of race, and they don't have they don't
Speaker 3: feel obliged to have any difficult conversations at all, which
Speaker 3: is why I like Black Panther and got a lot
Speaker 3: going on. Yeah, it's got going on and on, and
Speaker 3: it doesn't have the answers, and it doesn't it's not
Speaker 3: all happily ever after, and it's realistic. It makes and
Speaker 3: it makes sense. It applies to the real world. I
Speaker 3: think if you've got to talk about race. What you
Speaker 3: make cast applies to real well, because the race is
Speaker 3: a very real thing. You can't talk about race and
Speaker 3: make a movie like the Animal Olympics. This line from Africa.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: You can have nothing. The two things are very different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, what is the film that made you laugh
Speaker 1: the most? You're in comedy. What's the funniest one?
Speaker 3: If everybody does, my boy, I might well do. Actually
Speaker 3: I might see it. I'll tell you. The funniest movie
Speaker 3: ever made is Come into America. Okay, and that's pretty
Speaker 3: I've not I've not found the movie. And there are
Speaker 3: funny movies out there. They were finding movies before Coming
Speaker 3: to America, and there's been funny movies after it. But
Speaker 3: Coming to America to this day is the only movie
Speaker 3: that I can watch over and over again and everything,
Speaker 3: everything makes me laugh about that?
Speaker 1: Do you know he directed Coming to make Yeah?
Speaker 3: And this is how bad m is. I know that
Speaker 3: he has a poster that says see you next Wednesday
Speaker 3: in all his movies. I'm coming with his name?
Speaker 1: What's his name is?
Speaker 3: Genius?
Speaker 1: Directed The Blues Brothers. I know I hate him.
Speaker 3: I hate The Blues Brothers. Okay, but I love coming
Speaker 3: to everyone. I've told some rubbish jokes. I've had you.
Speaker 3: You say you saw me and I was great. I'll
Speaker 3: tell you right now, I've performed forty five minutes of silence.
Speaker 3: I've done it. I've done it. You know it was
Speaker 3: not me. It was not me, it was them. But
Speaker 3: I've done it. So we all had bad gigs, and
Speaker 3: he had a bad gig with the Blues Brothers, but
Speaker 3: he did training place student name. Yeah. So those two
Speaker 3: films are great, but I think Coming to America just
Speaker 3: edges it in terms of how funny it is.
Speaker 1: Coming to America. I watched it recently, and.
Speaker 3: It's got little it's kind of I think the best
Speaker 3: funny movies, in fact, the best funny anything, have all
Speaker 3: kinds of humor. So it's got like the physical humor,
Speaker 3: it's got the right in. It's got little moments that
Speaker 3: are just funny. If he's really a French armor. But
Speaker 3: everything about that her voice, what she's wearing, you know,
Speaker 3: is great. What's good. The funny spit of that movie
Speaker 3: is a bit that probably everyone forgets. It's a bit
Speaker 3: where Eddie Murphy and James R. Jones walking through like
Speaker 3: the palatial gardens and an elephant just like just walks
Speaker 3: past them, and it's just genius. Like everything about that
Speaker 3: is brilliant. It's hilarious and there's nothing more to say about. Actually,
Speaker 3: the funnies spit of the movie is when you see
Speaker 3: a landlord shouting at a tenant and it's like your
Speaker 3: Rench Drew, motherfucker, don't pull that falling out the stairs
Speaker 3: shut on me? Are you condus? That's alert that. I
Speaker 3: cry every time that happens. I'm laughing out everything. That
Speaker 3: movie is great. I love it.
Speaker 1: Good film, good answer, you can have.
Speaker 3: It, great, I can have it. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Right, you been You've been excellent. Yeah, thank you now,
Speaker 1: thank you. But the thing is when you spent a
Speaker 1: week on drugs, you did actually on Monday, you did
Speaker 1: ket them in on Tuesday, you did cocaine Wednesday, yeah,
Speaker 1: heroin on Thursday, and you did meth on Friday, and
Speaker 1: then you ran into the street and you got hit
Speaker 1: by a car and killed. When we went to pick
Speaker 1: up your body, the car had gone straight every because
Speaker 1: of all the drugs that were in you. Weirdly, your
Speaker 1: body it's sort of pickled. The car. It didn't didn't
Speaker 1: really break you. It just sort of spread you out
Speaker 1: and you're in like you look actually sort of like yourself,
Speaker 1: but like a sort of.
Speaker 3: Like peanut butter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, almost almost like a cartoon, Like you look like
Speaker 1: what's it called like stretched armstrong, so that you looked
Speaker 1: stretched out. So we peeled your body off the road.
Speaker 1: It brought bits of road with it. Unfortunately, anyway, we
Speaker 1: put you in your coffin because you've been spread out
Speaker 1: so much. We're just jamming you in this coffin.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's packed.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely packed. The coffee there's no room and there's
Speaker 1: now any room for one DVD that we can slip
Speaker 1: in for you to take to the other side. And
Speaker 1: on the other side there's movie night and one movie night.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be your movie night. What's the film that
Speaker 1: you are showing to everyone in heaven?
Speaker 3: I can repeat a movie that it's The Lioning. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that would make everyone and also people in heaven will
Speaker 3: be like, you know, they don't want to think about
Speaker 3: how bad the earth is. I think about how good
Speaker 3: the Earth is. The linking is everything that's good about
Speaker 3: the Earth, even even scars grating it. I and Jemmy
Speaker 3: Ryan's as well, I mean, the casting of The Lion
Speaker 3: King is so good. It's so good for me, Like
Speaker 3: it's just on the money. Even Elton John's soundtracking it.
Speaker 3: It's like, of course who else would who else could
Speaker 3: do this? Only Elton So yeah, it would be The
Speaker 3: Lion King. And I'd watch it with Malcolm X and
Speaker 3: Richard Pryor would have a great time.
Speaker 1: Wow, what a fucking night. And if they haven't seen
Speaker 1: the like yet, you're gonna blame their.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll be like, Wow, this.
Speaker 1: Is what we've been missing. Yeah, I want to go right,
Speaker 1: You've been excellent. Thank you very much for coming on
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you or anything you would like to
Speaker 1: plug or tell us before.
Speaker 3: You just because I'm on a bit of hiatus, which
Speaker 3: would normally call maternity, but it's not because I'm not
Speaker 3: getting paid. No one's paying me to not play their clubs. Unfortunately.
Speaker 3: Just find me on social media and when i'm back
Speaker 3: working again, I'll have all sorts of things happening. So
Speaker 3: I'm on Twitter, on Instagram and Facebook, and you can mind.
Speaker 3: All my handles are my name. I don't have a
Speaker 3: weird name. It's just a pen been you haven't got
Speaker 3: like I'm not called dread girl or nothing. It's just
Speaker 3: my name. Just find me on and say hello and
Speaker 3: tell me what happens in the end of Contact, because
Speaker 3: I can't remembering to reread Contact because I said, I
Speaker 3: love the book and I can't remember whatever happens in it.
Speaker 3: But I'm right about the Nigerian guy. There's not and
Speaker 3: guy in it.
Speaker 1: There is in the book as instead of journey, you know.
Speaker 3: There's an additional one. He's got loads of aals in it.
Speaker 1: Great from around the world. All right, if anyone knows
Speaker 1: the as to that, please tweet Athena. You've been excellent.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for being on to say I'll
Speaker 1: let you go to heaven with the lanking and I
Speaker 1: hope I see you at Gigson. Good day, Thank.
Speaker 3: You, Good day to you.
Speaker 2: So that was episode two hundred and seventy of Films
Speaker 2: to Be Buried With starring Athena Kiblen. You subscribe to
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Speaker 2: to Athena for joining the podcast. Thanks to Scrubius, Pip
Speaker 2: and the Distraction Pieces Network. Thanks to me for editing
Speaker 2: and production, which is definitely a normal sounding sentence. Thanks
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Speaker 2: hosting the podcast. Thanks to Adam Richardson for the artwork
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Speaker 2: it for now, have a lovely week, and please, now
Speaker 2: more than ever, be excellent to each other.