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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Charlie Pellett. You're listening to Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: Markets on this Wednesday, and this is Bloomberg Finds Pixels.

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Speaker 1: Canno is the name of the company. Alice Klein as

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Speaker 1: co founder and CEO and the focus for Kano teaching

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Speaker 1: kids to code um. Alex Klein joins us right now

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Speaker 1: and Ali talking about the problem Cana's trying to solve. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: and and thanks for having me. I mean, it's an

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Speaker 1: incredible time to be alive in one sense. You know,

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Speaker 1: we live in this world of over fifteen billion connected devices.

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Speaker 1: Most of them are slapped to our thighs, these beautiful

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Speaker 1: sealed smart phone screened but one percent of one percent

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Speaker 1: of one percent of us have any understanding of how

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Speaker 1: they work and how to shape them and how to

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Speaker 1: control them. Pano creates computers that you build and code yourself,

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Speaker 1: like Lego, as a way of addressing this gap, as

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Speaker 1: a way of making you know, the next generation and

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Speaker 1: really all of us more technologically aware and enabled citizens.

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Speaker 1: Alex I love all this stuff. I think it's really great,

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Speaker 1: and I think the sooner you get it out in

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Speaker 1: front of kids, you show them like the opportunities and

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Speaker 1: things that they can do in this world, especially in

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Speaker 1: the world where coding I think is so important to

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Speaker 1: every industry going forward. Having said that, what kind of payoff,

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Speaker 1: what kind of results have you seen as a result

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Speaker 1: of putting your pixel kids in front of kids? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so, you know, over the last four years,

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Speaker 1: we've we've gotten hundreds of thousands of computer kids to

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Speaker 1: eighty six countries, and the things that young people create

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Speaker 1: with them, it's actually quite stunning. I mean, we had

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Speaker 1: with a young person in Sierra Leone, Calvin Dove build

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Speaker 1: his own radio station. We had a girl in Kosovo

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Speaker 1: automated the position of solar panels to capture more energy.

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Speaker 1: We've had families in Oklahoma build time laps cameras. All

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Speaker 1: in all, you know, our community has shared over thirty

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Speaker 1: million lines of code, artwork, songs, aimes, stories, scripts, um

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Speaker 1: and look. You know this certainly set these kids up

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Speaker 1: later in life to pursue perhaps a career in stam,

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Speaker 1: a career in programming, the career and engineering. But I

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Speaker 1: think even more important than the pre vocational aspect is that,

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Speaker 1: you know, increasingly complex and impersonal time. To give these

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Speaker 1: young people a sense of control over the digital world

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Speaker 1: is something they can actually make, not just you know,

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Speaker 1: passively consume. We see that in the reactions and we

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Speaker 1: see that in the creations as well. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that I had a conversation about name

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Speaker 1: you know, she we were doing in Aubas a few

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Speaker 1: years back about about this this issue, and I said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. If I really want

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Speaker 1: my girls to be is to be sitting in front

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Speaker 1: of screens coding all day and night. And indeed that

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Speaker 1: that's you know, my girls, my young daughters were tenants

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Speaker 1: Is kind of neat. But but you're also to me,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not that they're going to be coders

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Speaker 1: but they're gonna understand the world of coding. They're not

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Speaker 1: They suffuse our day to day. And I think Cheryl

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Speaker 1: Sandberg is exactly right. You know, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: of that, above the broccoli and Brussels sprouts argument, it's

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Speaker 1: just a lot of fun. You know, people use canto

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Speaker 1: to make beats and loops, combining you know, songs and code.

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Speaker 1: it doesn't always have to be homework. And I got

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Speaker 1: valuable one day. It's about expressing yourself as well. Al

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Speaker 1: who buys most of your kids? Is it individuals at schools? What? Who? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Mostly individuals today. I mean we are were available at

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Speaker 1: Noble obviously through Amazon. We had a great day on

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Speaker 1: Prime deals yesterday. So primarily parents, but also you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of by our computer kids integrate them into curricula.

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Speaker 1: You know, they'll they'll do a lesson where kids code

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Speaker 1: a pyramid in Minecraft and use that to teach ancient

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Speaker 1: of fit into people's lives as Lago does, as the

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Speaker 1: game console does. You know, the family does. Together. Our

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Speaker 1: wonderful producer who listens to everything very closely. Um, he said,

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Speaker 1: how do you know they're hackers? Like? Is it? Hi?

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Speaker 1: I'm Joe Smith and I'm a hacker, and I'm interested

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Speaker 1: of beginners. You know, we've had people build advanced bitcoin

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Speaker 1: miners with Kanna. We've had people build autonomous robots with Kanno.

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Speaker 1: We had people put Kenna on you know, balloons and

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Speaker 1: call that, the hackers and the makers and the hobbyists.

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Speaker 1: In a sense, what we're trying to do is take

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Speaker 1: the sort of the hacker, the maker, the hobbyists um

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Speaker 1: instincts and make it accessible to a six year old,

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Speaker 1: to a beginner um. And so it's kind of nice

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Speaker 1: that you have the pros in the community, inspiring the

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Speaker 1: people who are just getting started. It's an interesting thing

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Speaker 1: to uh uh sort of finally when you when these kids,

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Speaker 1: tend to tend to promote interesting stuff. It's called Canno.

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Speaker 1: Device itself is called the Candle pixel kits. Yeah, great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Your daughter not a coder yet. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: she will be God anything, but that jellis a little