WEBVTT - Leavell and Farst on Documentary

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bloomberg Business Week with Carol Masser from Bloomberg Radio. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what that is Clapton unplugged. Eric Clapton actually

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<v Speaker 1>calling out musician Chuck Lavell. There, um something I know

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<v Speaker 1>we have played many many times in my home. And

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<v Speaker 1>a new documentary it's called The tree Man Chronicles. Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>who has spent half a century going around the world

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<v Speaker 1>with some of the cons of rock as musical musical

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<v Speaker 1>director for the Rolling Stones. He's told and played with

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<v Speaker 1>the Almond Brothers, Eric Clapton so many more. He is

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone and Buller, Georgia. He's also founder of

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<v Speaker 1>mother Nature Network. It's a source for environmental news. Also

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<v Speaker 1>with us and also acclaimed Alan Farrest, director, filmmaker and

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<v Speaker 1>contour photographer. He has covered the world of action, sports, music,

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<v Speaker 1>documentary films so much. Alan is the founder of Niche

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<v Speaker 1>Productions and he's with us on the phone and date

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio. So, gentlemen, welcome, welcome to Boomberg Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so delighted to have you here with us, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to start off with how this came together for

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<v Speaker 1>for the two of you and Chuck. Let me start

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<v Speaker 1>with you, well, First of all, Carol, thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much for inviting a song. I really appreciated it. At

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<v Speaker 1>an earthly here um. Alan and I had known each

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<v Speaker 1>other for a number of years because he had asked

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<v Speaker 1>me to play on a guitar player UM session that

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<v Speaker 1>he was managing and promoting, and so I went up

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<v Speaker 1>to o'hao for the session. Everything went fine. Then there

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<v Speaker 1>was this long gap where I didn't really talk to Alan,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had this concept to do a documentary and

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<v Speaker 1>we were in Las Vegas to do a show with

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<v Speaker 1>the Rolling Stones, which unfortunately got canceled because Met got laryngitis,

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<v Speaker 1>and allan happened, just happened to be in in um,

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<v Speaker 1>Las Vegas and out of the blue, call me up

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<v Speaker 1>and we do the show. But let's get together and

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<v Speaker 1>say hey, And we talked about this documentary concept and

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<v Speaker 1>he said, man, you know, is there any chance you

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<v Speaker 1>left me to consider me for the project. And I said, well, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So we talked about it. He convinced me that he

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<v Speaker 1>really really wanted it. I'm so glad that we got

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<v Speaker 1>together and did this and we shot over three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half years, and he just did a masterful job,

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<v Speaker 1>not only of shooting during all that time, but of

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<v Speaker 1>weaving the stories together, so very very pleased. Well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about that, Alan, because you know, right at the top,

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<v Speaker 1>at the top, you know, there are the three storylines

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<v Speaker 1>of Chuck's life, his musical life, his life as an environmentalist,

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<v Speaker 1>and for our folks here watching on YouTube was just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing some of the environmental work that Chuck does. But

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<v Speaker 1>also you wove in his personal life and his love

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<v Speaker 1>for his wife. How did you think about weaving those

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<v Speaker 1>stories together? Because it's really cool. You go from kind

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<v Speaker 1>of making bacon to talking about the Almond brothers. You

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<v Speaker 1>go from talking rolling stones and seeing Mick, Keith and

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<v Speaker 1>Ronnie and then talking about setting burns and horrists. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really wonderful how it's all woven together. Alan. Oh, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>Carol Um, thanks for having us a one. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think Chuck's story I knew from the outside just

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<v Speaker 1>when he was wanting to do this, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to do it, you know, I knew he had

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<v Speaker 1>a great story, uh to tell, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of it just needed to come out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and Uh, this this opportunity I wanted to take and

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<v Speaker 1>make this film as unique as as he is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is as salt of the earth kind of guy. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He never takes more than what he he needs, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but he gives back way more uh than the common guy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and not only musically, but also with his

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<v Speaker 1>forest life. And also his marriage is kind of works

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<v Speaker 1>the same way. I mean, it's it's a real testament

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the rock and roll business and have

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<v Speaker 1>a marriage of forty seven years, uh, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. But and he also met in a very

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<v Speaker 1>unique way at Capricorn Records, so um, you know, Rose

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<v Speaker 1>Lane worked there right when you walked in the doors,

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<v Speaker 1>and he met her at such a young age, and

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<v Speaker 1>they they fall in love and they've been together ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>As the movie says, you know, yeah, it actually you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sets goals for all of us in a relationship. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really it's really lovely, Chuck. I mean, what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think about I mean three three and a half years,

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, the process of it, what what was

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<v Speaker 1>it that you hoped ultimately was shown as you worked

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<v Speaker 1>with Alan on this. You know, my main motivation, Carol,

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<v Speaker 1>was to wind up with a document for my family,

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<v Speaker 1>for grandchildren, for future grandchildren, great grandchildren, up the road,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only of my life or you know, myself

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<v Speaker 1>and my wife rose Lane, but also for the times,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to to have a document of what the

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<v Speaker 1>touring was like with the Stones at this particular point

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<v Speaker 1>in time. Uh, talk about some of the things we

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<v Speaker 1>did in the past with the Almond Brothers band and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some of the other musicians and artists that

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<v Speaker 1>I've just been so privileged to work with. If you

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<v Speaker 1>had Eric there, and you know Eric oh Man, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a great couple of years with him and David,

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<v Speaker 1>David Gilmore and others. So really that was my motivation

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<v Speaker 1>was to have this document that would kind of show

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of the times and something for the family. Alan.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've got about a minute and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a little bit of a break and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and talk some more. But I imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that there had to be some serious logistical issues during filming.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you travel the world recorded interviews

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<v Speaker 1>with I think some eight people during a lockdown. Well

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<v Speaker 1>it's it was we we kind of finished right before

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<v Speaker 1>lockdown happened. But but you know, for for those three years, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, we went you know, Europe like seven eight

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<v Speaker 1>times and back and forth, and you know, one day

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<v Speaker 1>you're with Clapton, the next day you're with Gilmore. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it was like living Chuck's life on warp speed going, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, back with all the people he had played with,

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<v Speaker 1>which which you were trying to bring that into the story,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's it's always a challenge when you're

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<v Speaker 1>when you're traveling with three thousand pounds of gear on

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<v Speaker 1>a smaller crew to try to save money because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we knew we were going to interview well, we could

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<v Speaker 1>have potentially interviewed eighty people, um, and we really got

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<v Speaker 1>them all, you know, So it just we had to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stretch the budget out to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But that was that's kind of how we did it.

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<v Speaker 1>To check. I gotta ask you because, as we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about earlier, woven through the film is your love of

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<v Speaker 1>the environment. Uh And you talk about it a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did that all come from it? And I know

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about in the film when your wife inherited

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<v Speaker 1>a farm. Um, but just talk to us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about this and what you're hoping the message you're

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<v Speaker 1>hoping to get out to people. Yes, Well, it is

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<v Speaker 1>definitely all my wife's fault because you guys always blame us,

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<v Speaker 1>that's always what happens. But you know the fact is

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<v Speaker 1>that Rose Lanes family has been connected to the land

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<v Speaker 1>literally for generations as farmers tending cattle and livestock, attending

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<v Speaker 1>forest land and road cropping. And you know, when we

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<v Speaker 1>first got together, and as we pointed out earlier, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been forty seven years now, uh, I began to get

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<v Speaker 1>a field for the passion to love, the dedication of

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<v Speaker 1>the land that this family had. And in nine she

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<v Speaker 1>inherited some land from her grandmother, and it became our

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility to carry on what I saw is a heritage

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<v Speaker 1>of stewardship. And so I went on a little, you know, journey,

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<v Speaker 1>educational journey, going to library, checking out books on land

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<v Speaker 1>use and so forth. And the short of it is

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<v Speaker 1>that I had kind of an AHA moment when I realized, well,

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<v Speaker 1>where does that thing that has given me so much

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<v Speaker 1>joy in such a great career come from. The piano,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, had comes largely from the resource of wood,

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<v Speaker 1>and as does most other musical instruments, so I have

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<v Speaker 1>personal connection and I really wanted to study forestry and

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<v Speaker 1>learn more about you know, long term sustainable forestry and

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<v Speaker 1>incredible gives us. Yeah, and it's certain certainly I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're losing your phone a little bit, so hopefully it

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<v Speaker 1>comes back. Um. It's certainly something very near and dear

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<v Speaker 1>tall of us. And I think this year of dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with the pandemic, dealing with inequities, but also you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the environment, Um, you know what happens when the

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<v Speaker 1>economy shuts down and the skies are blue again and

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<v Speaker 1>you can see mountain ranges, but also watching those terrible

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<v Speaker 1>fires in California. I mean, Alan, I feel like in

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<v Speaker 1>so many ways this film is just spot on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, four years ago and we started it. We

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't really know that the California fires were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take off and be so much in the news in

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<v Speaker 1>the last year. And I think some of those practices

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<v Speaker 1>that Chuck talks about with fire breaks and some of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff, um, you know, I think, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that environmentalists can take a uh, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>step back and look at some of those practices and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you might have to give a little to

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<v Speaker 1>keep a lot, you know sometimes, And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the message of of the film. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think if your listeners want to check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they can. They can find it on v

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<v Speaker 1>O D now, which would put them into like iTunes,

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<v Speaker 1>Apple iTunes or Amazon and they can just search the

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<v Speaker 1>tree Man. But I think Ce and Chuck's story, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and watching what he brings to the table with the environment. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a big piece of the movie, uh that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really see coming, you know. You you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he has this uh, just giant body of work that

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<v Speaker 1>he's done, not only on um, you know, hits and

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<v Speaker 1>helping other bands, but then these other, you know, humongous bands.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been touring with them, playing with from the Almond

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<v Speaker 1>Brothers to the Stones. It's just incredible because if you

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<v Speaker 1>had just one of those in your career, it would

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<v Speaker 1>have been a monumental career. But he's done his time

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<v Speaker 1>and time again. Yeah, and to hire all of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Just talk about how great you are talking. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a real person and really humble and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and just so appreciative of kind of what the

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<v Speaker 1>world has has brought your way. I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>because we're running out of time and hopefully we can

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<v Speaker 1>get you guys back again in the future. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to do a quick kind of word association with you, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>if I can just briefly, if I say rolling Stones,

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<v Speaker 1>what comes to mind? Fun? I bet there are stories? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>can I tell you A colleague said to me that

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<v Speaker 1>they once heard that Ronnie would start his day with

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<v Speaker 1>four Guinnesses. Is that true? Oh no, listen, Ronnie has

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<v Speaker 1>been clean and sober for a long time now, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a wonderful wife, Sally, and they have to

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<v Speaker 1>two beautiful twin daughters that are just adorable. And Ronnie

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<v Speaker 1>has got it together. I mean, it's amazing. And don't

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<v Speaker 1>forget he's probably the most popular contemporary visual artist in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the world today. Yeah, that's actually, that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>a really good point as well. Um, Allman Brothers, what

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<v Speaker 1>comes to mind? Oh? And Southern rock, Um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>paving the way for a new kind of music. Clapton,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, impeccable, Uh, gentleman, Um, generous and awesome. Southern

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<v Speaker 1>Yellow Pine. Southern Yellow Pine is everything to me. It's

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<v Speaker 1>where I am, That's who I am, It's where I live.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rose Lane, love, love and more love. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta tell you it's a great film, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in a time when we're all feeling first

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<v Speaker 1>of all, we all want content, but just needs something

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<v Speaker 1>to maybe bring a smile to our face. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a great thing to watch, and and the music

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<v Speaker 1>and it is just incredible. Chuck, thank you so much, Allen,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. Stay safe, be well, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>you're welcome back any time. And I wish you good

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<v Speaker 1>luck with the with the documentary and the film. I

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. Chuck Lavel, singer, songwriter, musician, on the

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<v Speaker 1>phone from Bullard Georgia Ellen Forrest, director, filmmaker and photographer.

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<v Speaker 1>Check out their documentary. It is called The tree Man,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really is weaving together so many aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck's life, including of course his great musical career, but

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<v Speaker 1>also his love of his family, his wife, and then

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<v Speaker 1>what he's been doing really when it comes to sustainability

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<v Speaker 1>and sustainable forming in particular. Again, it's called The tree Man.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to go out with a song certainly

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<v Speaker 1>familiar to Chuck and I bet to all of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners something he played on Jessica with the Almond Brothers.