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Speaker 1: I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Woolfley, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: See, we can absolutely do the big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 4: Say you want my sleeper trade candidate.

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Speaker 4: The New York Giants at number six, we keep hearing

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Speaker 4: They met with Caleb Williams. Why so, there's a lot

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Speaker 4: I like that potential scenario.

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Speaker 1: cool about this is you've already got how many picks

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Speaker 1: right now that happens at the combine, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's an epic receiver class between Marvin Harrison Junior,

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Speaker 4: I mean, what do you make of it? Well, guess what.

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Speaker 8: This week, I've read a number of different mock drafts,

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Speaker 4: Quarterbacks do that to yourself quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Good position?

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Speaker 9: It's an awesome position. Yeah, I mean it's pole position

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Speaker 10: Which positions are deepest in this year's draft class, Well.

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Speaker 9: I almost feel like it's the same every year.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 9: As wide receiver we are this is college game is

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Speaker 10: Wide receiver and offensive tackle, two positions the Cardinals need

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Speaker 9: Marvin Harrison Junior kind of is, you know, a complete

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Speaker 9: a leg up there. But I think to me they

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Speaker 9: need to double down and continue to add resources to

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Speaker 10: So when you're looking overall arching, what would you say

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Speaker 10: are the most glaring needs for the Cardinals to address

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Speaker 10: with some of their I mean they've got eleven draft picks,

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Speaker 10: They've got six in the top one hundred, most in

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Speaker 10: the league. What are the glaring needs for the Cardinals

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Speaker 10: to address?

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Speaker 9: I think if they come out of this draft and

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Speaker 9: they get an impact player on each side of the

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Speaker 9: line of scrimmage, offensive line, defensive line, and then they

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Speaker 9: could get two dynamic players. Now you can one of

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Speaker 9: those guys probably gonna have to be raw when you

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Speaker 9: think about the receiver or the dB. But just getting

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Speaker 9: some juice, some explosiveness, you know, with the receiver in

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Speaker 9: a defensive back and with the resources they have, I

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Speaker 9: think that's accomplishable. But you know, the old it's like

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Speaker 9: the old Sunday school of visual though. If you want

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Speaker 9: to get all that stuff in the jar, you know,

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Speaker 9: the rocks, the sand, the water, like you got to

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Speaker 9: get the big rocks in first.

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Speaker 1: So to me, you don't want to leave the first.

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Speaker 9: Round without a big So if we're going to dedicate

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Speaker 9: that fourth pick to taking the playmaker, I think that

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Speaker 9: that next pick has to be an offense or a

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Speaker 9: defensive one.

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Speaker 4: That's great stuff. Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Draft analyst right with

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Speaker 4: Craig Griglu Danny Surrek. For the entire interview. All you

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Speaker 4: have to do is search Cardinals Cover two every year podcast,

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Speaker 4: go to the Cardinals YouTube page. So that's interesting, Wolf,

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Speaker 4: we know offensive tackle, we know receiver is really deep.

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Speaker 4: He says corner is deep as well. You know what

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Speaker 4: that makes me think with the Cardinals first pick in

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Speaker 4: the first round, it's going to be either edge or

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Speaker 4: d tackle because you can get those other three position

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Speaker 4: groups later in a loaded draft, but there's not nearly

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Speaker 4: as many guys to play along the defensive front.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting, Polly, I would disagree with you.

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Speaker 1: I think this is all gonna be about building around

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, and that means you've got to protect Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: And the best way to protect Kyler Murray is to

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Speaker 1: go ahead and get him a offensive lineman, maybe an

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Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman. Graham Barton. Maybe an offensive tackle Paully

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Speaker 1: you bring him in, Tyler Giden. Maybe it's a situation

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Speaker 1: where you also have a Marvin Harrison junior that is

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Speaker 1: a huge force for him in the secondary and maybe

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Speaker 1: gets the ball out quicker because he can see him

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Speaker 1: that much easier a guy that is running such excellent routes.

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Speaker 1: I think it's all about protecting Kyler Murray, and you

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Speaker 1: do that via offensive lineman and targets. He can throw

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Speaker 1: the ball too.

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Speaker 4: I'll say this, though, the Cardinal's first four draft picks,

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Speaker 4: if it ends up being offensive tackle, defensive line, corner,

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Speaker 4: and receiver in some order, you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: think it's probably gonna be those four positions in some order.

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Speaker 4: The question is who exactly comes first in that sequence.

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Speaker 4: And I'll say this, Jonathan Gana and Maniasivor talked about

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Speaker 4: how they value versatility and defensive lineman so much. They

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Speaker 4: told the media that again, it does make me think

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Speaker 4: of Darius Robinson, the guy that Daniel Jeremiah named out

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Speaker 4: of Missouri. He plays anywhere from the one technique all

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Speaker 4: the way out to the edge. He tore it up

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Speaker 4: with the Senior Bowl. He's supposedly going to test really well,

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Speaker 4: and he was just a force at Missouri.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a force, no doubt about it. I

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Speaker 1: like Chop Robinson as well. I really like this guy, PAULI.

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Speaker 1: Did he run an excellent forty times? Were you just

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Speaker 1: talking about four eight four four four to eight, PAULI?

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Speaker 1: From a guy that's two hundred and fifty pounds in

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Speaker 1: Job Robinson right now? I like that out there on

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Speaker 1: the edge. But let me just say, Polly, I really

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Speaker 1: loved that. Daniel Jeremiah reacted to the number four spot

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Speaker 1: and called it the pole position in this draft. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that interesting? Paul? He called it the pole position because quarterback, quarterback,

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Speaker 1: quarterback is the way he sees this going. And then

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Speaker 1: the draft starts when you get away from the quarterback

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Speaker 1: and you got a position, a position room you might

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Speaker 1: want a draft.

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Speaker 4: And well, if I know you're flying the flag for

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Speaker 4: the Marvin Harrison Junior fan Club, I get it. But

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Speaker 4: did you also catch where he said roma Doonsay had

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Speaker 4: more contested catches, Yes, than the Ohio State All American

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Speaker 4: And it's true, I got it right here. He had

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Speaker 4: twenty one Marvin Harrison Junior at thirteen and by the way,

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Speaker 4: Roma Doonsay is six three two fifteen and might run

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Speaker 4: a sub four four. He was the high school state

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Speaker 4: two hundred meter champion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just saying. He did say that Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 1: Junior was the complete package. She did.

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Speaker 4: Slash podcast. We continue at a Big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 4: by Santan Ford in Gilbert.

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Speaker 6: I do think that we have a good plan in

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Speaker 6: place to improve our players and get better culture. Guys

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Speaker 6: is people and how you behave.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: It's not some fancy word.

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Speaker 6: It's like, hey, like, who do you have and how

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Speaker 6: do we behave on a daily basis? Right, So it's

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Speaker 6: my job to hold them to that set, say hey,

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Speaker 6: this is what we want and then let's make sure

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Speaker 6: we do it, and when it's right, we point that out,

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Speaker 6: and when it's not right, we point that out. And

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Speaker 6: then ultimately the locker room took that.

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Speaker 4: Over This year, there go Jonathan Gannon, really interesting and

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Speaker 4: he's really fourth right with the media, and you know

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Speaker 4: they asked him for example, Okay, as a new head coach,

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Speaker 4: What did you learn your takeaways year one? He said,

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Speaker 4: you know what I learned to delegate. I learned to

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Speaker 4: trust people, you know. And he said, I made my

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Speaker 4: biggest jump as a position coach from year one to

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Speaker 4: year two, and I expect that out of myself in

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Speaker 4: my second year as a head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: There he was from the combine. In fact, that is

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Speaker 4: where we have boots on the ground, Darren Rman, Danny Sirek,

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Speaker 4: Craig Greeley, which is the big red rage presented by

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Speaker 4: Santan Ford in Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, Paul Kelbc,

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Speaker 4: Ron Molfley. Well, if would you have enjoyed playing for

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Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I believe with all my heart, Polly, that I

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Speaker 1: would have fit really, really well into this kind of

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Speaker 1: culture right here now listen. He doesn't have a full

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Speaker 1: back steam fall, so I doubt that I would have

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Speaker 1: been here. But in terms of the culture, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think I would have fit like a glove. I really do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of the things I love

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Speaker 1: about these two guys many as and Ford and Jonathan Gannon.

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Speaker 1: It's the fact they know exactly the type of human

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Speaker 1: being they want inside that locker room.

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Speaker 4: In fact, with no further ado, let's just kick it

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Speaker 4: to Danny Sirec. She had a chance to sit down

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Speaker 4: with Jonathan Gann and the Cardinals head coach here this

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Speaker 4: week and they got into some big picture topics about

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Speaker 4: the big red.

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Speaker 10: You've said, you talk every day with general manager Mani

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Speaker 10: asin Ford, especially this week when it comes to player

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Speaker 10: evaluations and interviews. When it comes to finding the right fit,

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Speaker 10: it's about the price of admission, which not everybody pays.

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Speaker 10: How much is the price of admission to become an

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Speaker 10: Arizona Cardinal.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot. And what we're talking about there

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Speaker 6: is the people that they are in their football character.

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Speaker 6: So we like to look for certain things, you know,

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Speaker 6: just as they're going through their college career, what that

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Speaker 6: looks like for us when they submerge into our culture

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Speaker 6: with the Arizona Cardinals, what we think is needed to

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Speaker 6: get the job done. And last year's draft class all

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Speaker 6: paid that price of admission, so mining his staff and

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Speaker 6: we did a really good job on that.

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Speaker 4: So that's what we're looking for this year.

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Speaker 10: Reflecting on last season, four wins defensively twenty ninth passing defense,

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Speaker 10: thirty second in the run. What's required to turn things

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Speaker 10: around and become a threatening defense and just one.

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Speaker 6: Off set a lot obviously not where we need to

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Speaker 6: be to win enough football games to be relevant in January,

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Speaker 6: as I would say, and I think continuity of the

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Speaker 6: coaching staff and some of the things that we did

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Speaker 6: last year moving into year two will help the players

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Speaker 6: that are here. And then you know, obviously excited about

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Speaker 6: the acquisition phase too. You know, free agency in the

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Speaker 6: draft always add new people to the room. But the

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Speaker 6: guys that we have back, they did a good job

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Speaker 6: of trying to do what we wanted them to do,

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Speaker 6: and I think obviously there's a big area and a

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Speaker 6: big room for a jump and improvement going into year two.

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Speaker 10: He saw eight games with your franchise quarterback Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 10: His presence immediately rejuvenated the offense the team as a

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Speaker 10: whole offensively, What pieces are missing where, if addressed, can

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Speaker 10: elevate his play and in turn, the offense is play

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Speaker 10: as a whole of EI.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wouldn't say miss and I would just say

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Speaker 6: we're looking to add good football players everywhere, and the

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Speaker 6: offensive line, I always think in my mind that's where

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Speaker 6: I look to first, you know, because there's five guys

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Speaker 6: on that and they got a tough job and they're

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Speaker 6: running pass game. And then and then how many playmakers

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Speaker 6: can we surround Kyler with? You know? So, and that

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Speaker 6: comes in all kinds of different shapes and sizes and

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Speaker 6: forms and positions. So as long as we add good

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Speaker 6: football players will be.

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Speaker 1: On our way.

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Speaker 10: You've said this offseason you want to tear things down

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Speaker 10: with your staff and keep them on their toes. What

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Speaker 10: good are you carrying over from last year to build.

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Speaker 1: Upon a lot?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think like certain things, just our

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Speaker 6: things I think was good, and the players liked it

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Speaker 6: and they're comfortable with that, and they showed improvement with that.

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Speaker 6: But I want us to really what I was talking

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Speaker 6: about with that comment was I want us to have

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Speaker 6: a growth mindset and making sure that we're talking and

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Speaker 6: thinking about everything that we're doing and to make sure

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Speaker 6: that it's the best thing for the players. And as

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Speaker 6: long as we're improving I say, individually and collectively, then

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Speaker 6: the players will improve. So that's what I wanted done

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Speaker 6: this offseason. They've done a good job with it.

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Speaker 10: First year as a head coach, check done. What was

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Speaker 10: the biggest lesson learned?

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Speaker 6: I got to delegate, got to delegate a little bit,

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Speaker 6: I got, I got we have really good people in

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Speaker 6: the building. Michael went out and you know, the people

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Speaker 6: that he'd let us hire were exactly what I was

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Speaker 6: looking for, and so I listened to those guys. So

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Speaker 6: I listened to them and then I delegate some responsibility

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Speaker 6: at times. But it was it was fun. But I'm

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Speaker 6: looking forward to the growth for myself in year two

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Speaker 6: as well. Just being on a job, you know, the

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Speaker 6: the greatest experiences experience. So going into year two, I

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Speaker 6: have to improve my game too, So I'm working on that.

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Speaker 10: At what point what week did you realize I got

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Speaker 10: to delegate a little bit more?

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Speaker 6: Training camp?

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Speaker 9: Okay, training camp?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, training camp.

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Speaker 1: It kind of hit me. So but that was cool.

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Speaker 6: People were ready to do that, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: So that that was That was kind of a neat

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Speaker 6: experience for me a little stressful, but it was good.

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Speaker 10: You were pretty hyped in the war room last year's draft,

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Speaker 10: which makes sense money also for it was making big moves.

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Speaker 10: How prepared are you for the Manti magic this.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was just gonna sit back and you know,

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Speaker 6: get your popcorn ready.

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Speaker 4: It's good stuff right there. Jonathan Gannon with Danny Sirek.

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Speaker 4: Catch the entire interview YouTube dot com slash Az Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: All right, so in order of appearance there, uh talking

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Speaker 4: about player acquisition and we've obviously talked a lot about

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Speaker 4: the draft and that comes from the combine free agency.

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Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley because on Arizona Sports last week, the owner

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Speaker 4: Michael Bidwell said we're going to be active in free agency.

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Speaker 4: In fact, you use the words very active. MANI said

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Speaker 4: we're going to be active in free agency. What does

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Speaker 4: that mean? I can't spell that out right now, Dot

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Speaker 4: dot dot. What do you think that means?

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Speaker 1: You know what, Paulie, I really don't think we're going

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Speaker 1: to see a big free agent splash. That is just me.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that is the Mani Austin fort way.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mani asin for Paulie. You talked to him

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Speaker 1: as well, and I just think that Mani Austin Ford

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Speaker 1: is more about building through the draft in supplementing with

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Speaker 1: free agency. Of course, I don't know if we're going

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Speaker 1: to see a big signing via free agency based on

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Speaker 1: what he did last year. I thought it was very

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Speaker 1: very interesting. He brought in a bunch of pros. Paul

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Speaker 1: guys who were pros brought him in here. Kaiser White

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Speaker 1: is a guy that I will point to and say,

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Speaker 1: this is a pro. Kaizer White didn't go, of course

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Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl. Hasn't been in the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 1: We know that. But Kaizer White, he only played eleven

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Speaker 1: games last year. This is a guy who is a

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Speaker 1: pro and a guy that's going to go out there

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Speaker 1: and he's never going to get you beat at the

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Speaker 1: NFL level. That's what I think. He's going to be

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Speaker 1: looking for more and more and more guys. Now they

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Speaker 1: actually paid Kaiser White, actually gave him a little bit

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Speaker 1: of money, But I don't think we're going to see

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Speaker 1: a twenty million dollars signing a year Pully. I think

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Speaker 1: Manti asen Ford is about building through the draft and

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Speaker 1: then using free agency to supplement.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had forecast. I would agree with you. I

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Speaker 4: would say this though. The reason I think in part

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Speaker 4: they gave Kaysier money the most money Kayser White the

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Speaker 4: most money of any free agent is because they knew

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Speaker 4: him so well. True, is there a defensive lineman out there,

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Speaker 4: they trust an edge guy, they trust a corner out there,

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Speaker 4: because right now the defensive line room it's an empty cupboard.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you need guys and you could really use

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Speaker 4: a game wrecker in so, yes, I wonder about that

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Speaker 4: and the difference from last offseason. You have about fifty

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Speaker 4: million available in spending power.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, Paully. You know it's it's very interesting

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Speaker 1: because just listening to you talk right there, would you

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Speaker 1: say Fletcher Cox would be a guy that time? You

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Speaker 1: might just you know what I mean? There he is

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Speaker 1: and we all know that. Fletcher Cox, of course a

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Speaker 1: guy that has been an awesome three technique and the

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Speaker 1: National Football League for a long time. He's thirty three

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Speaker 1: years old right now he might be at that point

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Speaker 1: where suddenly it's going to be a change of scenery

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Speaker 1: for him. What could you possibly get Fletcher Cox for Paul?

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Speaker 1: And what kind of discount might he actually give Jonathan

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Speaker 1: Gannon and Manti Assin for it to come out here

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Speaker 1: to Arizona, beautiful Arizona and play that. That is the

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Speaker 1: question that I have right now, Paul. Would he give

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Speaker 1: him a hometown discount so to speak? That's right.

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Speaker 4: The Niners got Javon Hargrave, So Cardinals go after Fletcher Cox. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: there you go. That'd be a by the way. He

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Speaker 4: also mentioned Kyler Murray in that interview, and it was

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Speaker 4: interesting to hear Jonathan Gannon tell the media in Indianapolis

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Speaker 4: that you know what the game is going to go

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Speaker 4: through one and then he talked about how it's one

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Speaker 4: thing to be a cornerback in a new system, but

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Speaker 4: when you're a quarterback in a new scheme and you

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Speaker 4: don't have an entire offseason actually rep it because you're

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Speaker 4: coming back from a knee injury. You know, we saw

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Speaker 4: some of Kyler's best ball at the very end. It

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Speaker 4: makes sense, and he still thinks there's plenty of upside

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Speaker 4: Kyler in this offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI no doubt about it. And what do you

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Speaker 1: gotta do. You got to protect Kyler Murray. That's what

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. I loved his answer right there when

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Speaker 1: Danny asked him what pieces are missing to help Kyler,

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Speaker 1: he said, the offensive line is where I look first,

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Speaker 1: and then how many playmakers can we surround him with? There?

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Speaker 1: It is right there offensive lineman to protect him and

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Speaker 1: also to protect him with wide receivers who are going

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Speaker 1: to get open and run the right routes and be

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Speaker 1: in the right spot to get the ball.

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Speaker 4: I keep citing the Detroit Lions, the Honolulu blue print,

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Speaker 4: if you will. Yes, they went and they got Calvin

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Speaker 4: Johnson and he was a Hall of Famer. What to

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Speaker 4: do for their postseason fortunes. But when they started focusing

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Speaker 4: on the offensive line and they shunned Jamar Chase or

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Speaker 4: they didn't have a shot at him, they ended with

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Speaker 4: Penny Sewell right then boom. They just they focused on

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Speaker 4: that offensive line. And so whether it's that, whether it's

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Speaker 4: the defensive line, whether it's corner, we'll talk about that

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Speaker 4: when we come back and name some names. It's the

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Speaker 4: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert we Are.

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Speaker 11: Santane forward, shotgun snap Smith moves to his left, rolling

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Speaker 11: that way, hump fake now throws harside.

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Speaker 3: Picked off at the one yard line, It's intercepted by

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Speaker 3: the rookie Williams out of Syracuse, his first game after

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Speaker 3: missing the last twelve months doing an injury suffered at

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Speaker 3: Syracuse in the middle of the season. He makes a

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Speaker 3: huge play picking off Geno Smith in the Red zone.

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Speaker 4: He knows mea level ls he Gara Williams, Lizizi present

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Speaker 4: the Welcome to the NFL Wuchacho Garra Williams as Luis Hernandez,

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Speaker 4: preceded by Dave Pash. Yes, that is the interception times

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Speaker 4: to English and Spanish. That was his debut in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: after coming back from the knee injury that Kurt tailed

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Speaker 4: his final season at Syracuse. There he was mid season

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Speaker 4: at Seattle. As soon as he was available. He was

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Speaker 4: in the lineup, the starting Nickel and Boom comes away

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Speaker 4: with the takeaway. It's the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 4: santan Ford in Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul calvic

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Speaker 4: Ron Wolfley our special NFL combine addition, and you go

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Speaker 4: back to the combine where the Cardinals were blown away

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Speaker 4: by Garrett Williams. At least that's the story Monyosip Fort

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Speaker 4: and Jonathan Gannon have told recently where there they were

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Speaker 4: wolf And you mentioned it earlier. You got like thirty

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Speaker 4: interviews in a row, right, all fifteen minutes a piece

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Speaker 4: at speed dating. You get to the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: it's ten o'clock in the evening. You are dragging and

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Speaker 4: worn out, and they said the very last interview was

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Speaker 4: Garrett Williams, and within the first minute he had them

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Speaker 4: on the edge of their seat, and by the time

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Speaker 4: he left that room in the interview, they looked at

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Speaker 4: each other and said, if we have a shot at

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Speaker 4: that guy, we're going to turn in the card with

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Speaker 4: his name on it. And sure enough it happened in

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Speaker 4: the third round.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Paul, I also thank Gerrett Williams two

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Speaker 1: is going to be the starting corner for the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and the nickel corner. I think that that really

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Speaker 1: is where his future is now. Once again, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that Garrett Williams can't play on the outside. He's

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Speaker 1: big enough to actually play on the outside. He's five ten,

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Speaker 1: about one hundred and ninety two pounds. He's big enough

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Speaker 1: to actually play out there. He proved that of course

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Speaker 1: last year. But I really think the future for Garrett

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Speaker 1: Williams is inside that nickel corner over maybe a number

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Speaker 1: three receiver in the slots. I think that's where his

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Speaker 1: future is. But having said that, they need to find

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Speaker 1: more guys like him, Paul.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, it was after that interception. The very next

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Speaker 4: week we had him on the Big Red Rage. And

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Speaker 4: you might remember when we asked Garrett Williams about playing

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Speaker 4: slot corner.

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Speaker 12: Things are moving fast, but you got to adjust with it,

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Speaker 12: you know. So definitely a big adjustment because when you're

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Speaker 12: at a corner, your vision is just so different than

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Speaker 12: when you're playing this slot. When you're a corner, you

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Speaker 12: can kind of see everything around you. When you're in

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Speaker 12: the slot, you kind of got to search a little

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Speaker 12: bit more, you know, to see the full formation and

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Speaker 12: things like that.

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Speaker 4: You know, what else stands out to me about that

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Speaker 4: interview just to what degree he's a thinking man's coin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm not blowing your cover by saying you're not

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Speaker 4: exactly the biggest fan of college football, and he agreed

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Speaker 4: with you for the same reason because to him, college

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Speaker 4: football is a little bit simplistic and he's not even

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Speaker 4: a year removed from the college game. And he talked

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Speaker 4: about how he enjoys how complex the NFL is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Pall two. Garrett Williams is a

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Speaker 1: physical guy as well. I think he's a good from

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Speaker 1: what I saw, He's a good open field tackler for

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Speaker 1: the most part, and an he tackles with some physicality.

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Speaker 1: Once again, it's not a surprise to me because this

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Speaker 1: is exactly what JG and maniassin Ford are looking for,

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Speaker 1: guys that are physical football players. When you say our

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Speaker 1: culture is going to be about physicality, and that's one

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Speaker 1: of the things. That's one of the things they look

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Speaker 1: for in a football player is a guy that is physical.

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Speaker 1: When you say that, you're talking about blocking and tackling,

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Speaker 1: and it does no matter what position the guy plays.

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Speaker 1: You're looking for somebody who plays it physically. Garrett Williams

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Speaker 1: is that guy.

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Speaker 4: Buddha Baker knows that guy when he sees one. Right,

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Speaker 4: here's the six time Pro Bowl or Buddha Baker when

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Speaker 4: he was asked about Garrett Williams.

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Speaker 6: Garrett is a pro.

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Speaker 13: You know, he knows the ins and outs of what

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Speaker 13: his job is supposed to be. And it's definitely special

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Speaker 13: to have, you know, a young guy like that understand

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Speaker 13: his job and know what to do each and every place.

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Speaker 13: So he's going to continue to get better as a player,

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Speaker 13: continue to gain knowledge on the field as well, and

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Speaker 13: you know, sky's the limit for him.

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Speaker 4: And look, he wasn't the only rookie to play. Starling

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Speaker 4: Thomas was a starting corner for quite a bit of

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Speaker 4: the latter part of the season. They started this season

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Speaker 4: with six round rookie Key Troll Clark as a starter.

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Speaker 4: You know, well, if we talk a lot about O line,

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Speaker 4: D line in this draft, receiver obviously, but could corner

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Speaker 4: be the sleeper pick? For example, Terry and Arnold, we

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Speaker 4: mentioned how he met with the Cardinals. The Alabama corner

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Speaker 4: considered the top corner prospect in this draft. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if he ends up being the Cardinals pick, maybe not

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Speaker 4: at four, but if they trade down the middle of

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Speaker 4: the first round, would you be surprised by that?

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Speaker 1: You know, no, I would not, Paully, I would not

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Speaker 1: be surprised. And cornerback for the most part, once again

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Speaker 1: is probably the second Yeah. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah said that, yep, cornerback was probably the second

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Speaker 1: deepest position in the draft right now. As a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact, there are estimated ten cornerbacks that are going

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Speaker 1: to go in the first seventy picks of the draft. Wow, ten,

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Speaker 1: Pauli in fifteen overall, so in the top one hundred.

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Speaker 1: So that's going to be interesting to watch because I

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Speaker 1: think the Cardinals at number twenty seven. Could be very

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Speaker 1: interested in who is there.

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Speaker 4: Here's some of the top names we mentioned, Terry and

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Speaker 4: Arnold from Bama, Quinny and Mitchell from Toledo. He bawled

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Speaker 4: out and just went way up everybody's draft board at

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Speaker 4: the second BA get to it, paul Then you have

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Speaker 4: Ennis Rakestraw from Missouri, Okay. And then you at number

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Speaker 4: four Nate Wiggins of Clemson. By the way, he says

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Speaker 4: he ran a four to two seven recently and he's good.

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Speaker 4: He's going to be a Blazer, a burner in the forty.

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Speaker 4: And then the fifth one on the board that I

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Speaker 4: saw was Cooper de jan from Iowa.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, late, kool Aid mckinstree.

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Speaker 1: You did have kool Aid mckinstreet ball. You might have

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Speaker 1: the best name in the entire draft. And you know

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Speaker 1: this is a guy that was down in the SEC

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Speaker 1: playing ball for Bama.

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Speaker 4: Well, he was opposite Terian Arnold and those two would

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Speaker 4: push each other. So you're right. I mean, could kool

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Speaker 4: Aid McKinstry be the Cardinals pick at thirty five, for example?

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Speaker 4: I could definitely see that happening.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Paulie. I've got my heart set on

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Speaker 1: Graham Barton at thirty five right now. I think he's

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Speaker 1: probably gonna go higher. I think he'll probably go in

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Speaker 1: the twenties somewhere, but who knows. He might fall in

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Speaker 1: this draft. And if he does, man, I've got Graham

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Speaker 1: Barton slated for number thirty five.

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Speaker 4: By the way, based on what all the coaches and

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Speaker 4: GM's were saying at the combine this week, here's my forecast.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna look into the Crystal Football and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: project a few things. You ready, justin fields traded to Atlanta,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna happen. Caleb Williams will be drafted by the Bears.

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson will go to Pittsburgh after he's cut because

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Speaker 4: based on what Sean Payton was saying to the media,

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Speaker 4: that decision is coming really soon. By the way, it's

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Speaker 4: interesting to hear the Broncos GM George Payton say we've

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Speaker 4: gotten no trade calls on Russell Wilson, so that was

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Speaker 4: interesting they gave that up. I'm thinking the Seahawks are

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Speaker 4: gonna rock the world and take Michael Pennox number sixteen. Overall,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna keep him in Seattle. And I also think

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Speaker 4: that the Cardinals will trade out from number four, and

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Speaker 4: it's going to a team in desperate need of a quarterback,

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Speaker 4: whether it's Minnesota, Denver, the Giants, the Raiders, whomever. And

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Speaker 4: I think JJ McCarthy is gonna be that guy who's

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Speaker 4: gonna climb the draft boards. Maybe Bo Nicks. But you know,

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Speaker 4: our new saying, our campaign slogan is let there be

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Speaker 4: a fourth QB, because then Manti asen Fort is presented

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Speaker 4: with the option of either trading out and taking the

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Speaker 4: bonanza from a quarterback desperate team, or you stay at

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Speaker 4: four and take the best position player.

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Speaker 1: You know. Once again, Paulie, I absolutely love it. I

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Speaker 1: can see that possibly happening, number four being there and

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Speaker 1: MANI trading back again and then jumping back up after

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Speaker 1: collecting some more picks, including another first round pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love that scenario right there, as long as Marvin

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Speaker 1: Harrison Junior isn't there at far.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of receivers, the Vikings gym called Justin Jefferson quote

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Speaker 4: the best receiver, the best non quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 4: and he should be compensated as such. He realizes he

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