1 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: On this episode of Sports Illustrated Weekly, the South Carolina 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 1: Gamecocks are one of the best teams in women's basketball, 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: and there once again headed back to the Final four. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: S I staffer Wilton Jackson talked to star player a 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Leah Boston on her quest for a championship, her journey 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: from St. Thomas to South Carolina, and her ever changing 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,800 Speaker 1: personal style. And later we tell you about one lucky 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: college basketball gambler who turned a single dollar bet into 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: more than two hundred and thirty seven thousand dollars. We 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: call him the parlay King of New Jersey. But first, 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: the n C Double A Tournament features sixty four teams 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: every year and sixty four mascots. But while you might 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: have love for your school, we're about to tell you 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: why your favorite mascot is a lie. It's Wednesday, March. 15 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Gonzalez from Sports Illustrated and I 16 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is Sports Illustrated Weekly, Seconds and Gold 17 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: for Friends, Get a cost, sectors a carcosts at. When 18 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: it comes to March Madness, we're usually talking about the 19 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: games and the players, when frankly, we should be more 20 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: focused on the mascots. That's right, Those human sized animals 21 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: that support their schools might be cute, but they're not 22 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: very accurate. In fact, a special investigation by SI staff 23 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: writer Connor Or and a Harvard scientist not making that 24 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: up Harvard is involved here, reveals that many college mascots, 25 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: maybe even your college mascot, well, they're a lie. That 26 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: includes some of the teams in this weekend's Final four. 27 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: And by the way, if you root for Kansas or 28 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: any team with a wildcat for a mascot, this next 29 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: part is gonna be taught, all right. So when I 30 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: saw the story that most schools mascots were a lie 31 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: and completely wrong, I didn't even have to look at 32 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: the byeline. I already knew that it was you, Connor. 33 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: But you had some special help on this. Tell us 34 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: about the Harvard mammalogist and how you guys cooked up 35 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: this very you kind of story. I've never had In 36 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: some industries, they'll call this a tappen. You know, I've 37 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: never had such a fantastically easy time and fun time 38 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: working on a story before. So I had met Hopie Hoaxtro, 39 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: who's the head of mammalogy at Harvard and in the 40 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: animal studying Kingdom is the king of the animal studying. 41 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 1: Kingdom just knows everything about all animals and uh. She 42 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: was helping me with the project I was doing on 43 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 1: quarterback evolution as opposed to animal evolution, and at the 44 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: end of our call, she said, hey, you know, I've 45 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: always wanted to this story. She's like, I went to 46 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: a Minnesota basketball game and their gopher is not a Gopher, 47 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: and so I started writing down a list of all 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: the mascots that were wrong, and she's like, you know, 49 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: do you think anybody would ever want to run that story? 50 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: And I was like, I started looking around to make 51 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: sure that there was no other sportswriters near me, and 52 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: I was just like, I was like yes. It was like, 53 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: we will run this story. Don't tell anyone about this 54 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: and call me in two months. We're gonna run it 55 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: during the tournament. It's gonna be my favorite thing ever. 56 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: And she was so good, and I mean, she's a 57 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: professor obviously is such a great communicator, and so I 58 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: just ran what she told me and I was like, listen, 59 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: this is gonna be your byeline. You know, I'm just 60 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: here to facilitate this, and almost like a realtor I'm 61 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: taking my three percent and getting out of here. But uh, 62 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: Hope he was the rock star of this and she's 63 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: uh just so smart and such a great communicator in 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: such a curious mind that it made this a really 65 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: fun thing to work on. I am so glad that 66 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: you two crazy kids found each other because Hope he 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: seemed to really enjoy going through this deeply strange process 68 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: with you. And what I love about the pieces that 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: I hope he kind of had this idea on her 70 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: own when she was going through getting her PhD, long 71 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: before the two of you met. She said that she 72 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: didn't really follow college hoops, and she got interested in 73 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: it because of March madness and because of the mascots. 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: And one of the things that sort of made this 75 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: idea Germany in her mind was she saw the Minnesota 76 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: Golden Gophers. When I was a PhD student in Seattle, 77 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: a lot of my research was focused on small mammals 78 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: on rodents. So when I got the tickets and the 79 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: teams were announced, and so for us, I got super 80 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: excited that there was a team whose mask up was 81 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: a road. And so this big golden thing comes marching 82 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: out and then it turned around and it was very 83 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: clear it was not a gopher. She literally screamed in 84 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: the arena. That's when the gopher walked out, which is 85 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: like probably the funniest thing you could tell in like 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: in the middle of like a bunch of like drunk students, 87 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: just there to watch a basketball game. But her expertise 88 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: in the animal kingdom is road so this is her wheelhouse, 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: and so this is like deeply offensive to her. And 90 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: she's saying, the striping patterns are all wrong. I gopher, 91 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: these are subterranean mammals that are uniform in color. The 92 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: tail isn't right. That had this giant fluffy tail. The 93 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: gopher has like a little teeny nub and it's not furry. 94 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: So she starts like while a basketball game is taking place, 95 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: starts going through the checklist. She's like, you know, is 96 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: it a beaver? And they just thought it might have 97 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: been a beaver? Now is it a chipmunk? And she's 98 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: like no, And then all of a sudden she comes 99 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: up and she's like, I'm convinced it's a golden mantled 100 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: ground squirrel. She says this to me on the phone 101 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: and then I google it and I'm like, holy this 102 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: is what it is, and and it was like unbelievable 103 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: to me. And then she was so upset that she 104 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: actually wrote a letter to the athletic director at the 105 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: University of Minnesota and she's like, you guys screwed this up. 106 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm a PhD in mammalogy. If anybody would know what 107 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: a gopher looks like, it's me and that is not 108 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 1: a gopher. And she said, I never heard back, but 109 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: she did do a guest lecture at Minnesota ten years 110 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: later after she became like the boss of Animals, Like 111 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: if the animal video game, she's the last person that 112 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: you have to beat in order to secure the metal 113 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: or whatever it is. She did a lecture at Minnesota 114 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: and Mike drop moments She's like, by the way, your 115 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: mascot's a lie. It's remarkable to me that you found 116 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: your mirror image in a Harvard PhD. Like I never 117 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: would have guessed that, but you have. It's the truth. 118 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Uh So, one of the things that the two of 119 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: you identified as maybe the most egregious violation in mascot 120 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: dumb is the term wildcat. Right every school out there 121 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: is basically the wildcat. Now we're in the NC double 122 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: a tournament, we're reaching its conclusion. But of the sixty 123 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: four teams in the tournament this year, I believe seventy 124 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: of them had wildcat mascots. So what's the general big 125 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: picture problem with the term wildcats? So this, uh, it 126 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: actually made me almost tear up laughing when she told 127 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: me this, because I didn't know wildcat was a real thing. 128 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was just like a wild cat, you know, 129 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: that's what you just said, and it was something that 130 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 1: some guy said and it became a thing. It's like, no, 131 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: wildcat is a real animal, and it is essentially the 132 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: size and temperament of a domesticated American house cat. So 133 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: they're slightly stock here and slightly longer lights than a 134 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: domestic housecat, and apparently they're not particularly fierce very much. Yeah. 135 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: I just loved the idea of all these schools playing 136 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: these like sounds like their stadium and like it's more 137 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: of a me out Like. It made me just die 138 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: laughing to think that like all of these rough and 139 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: tumble schools are like basically just like should be trotting 140 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: out a house cat. I would love if they did that. 141 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: I want them to live their truth. I think that 142 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: would be wonderful, I and pro cat. But I want 143 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: to go through because you guys went through some of 144 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: the specific schools and what's wrong with their individual version 145 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: of wildcats. We're gonna start with the Arizona Wildcats. So, yeah, 146 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: the Arizona has Wilbur and Wilma, who are married. They 147 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: used to have a live Bobcat as their mascot, like 148 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: a hundred years ago, and Wilbur the wildcat is actually 149 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: a bobcat. Wilbur has this fringe on the space that 150 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: looked a little bit more like a bobcat. So at 151 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: some point along the line that probably signals got crossed, 152 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: wires got crossed, and uh, all of a sudden they 153 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: became the wildcats. But they should be the bobcats. They 154 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: should be the bobcats, all right? What about the Northwestern Wildcats? 155 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: Pretty disappointing considering well, I'm a Syracuse guys, so I 156 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: love banging on Northwestern any shime I get a chance. 157 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: You know, this supposed institution of higher learning can't even 158 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: figure out that they have a links. This one is gray, 159 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: very fluffy white patches on his face, doesn't have any stripes, 160 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: and doesn't have a tail that white fringe is characteristics 161 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: of a link. They didn't even have stripes on Willie 162 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: the Wildcat, which is like the defining characteristic of a wildcat, 163 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: completely wrong. They're faulty as well, as is Kansas State. 164 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: The Kansas State Wildcats, Yeah, Willie the Wildcat, another one 165 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,599 Speaker 1: named Willie the Wildcat. Sure. Kansas State, to me was 166 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: most clearly a mountain lion. Sleek physique, very small ears, 167 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: uniform color, hair, all that stuff, defining characteristics of a 168 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 1: mountain lion, not a wildcat. Arguably in no disrespect to 169 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: the other schools on this list that have screwed up 170 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: the wildcat, but arguably the most famous of the group, 171 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: the Kentucky Wildcats. The Kentucky Wildcat is actually a mountain lion. 172 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: But the funny part about this is they even screwed 173 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: up the mountain lion. Kentucky was the most mountain lions like, 174 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: but it likes Kansas State and all of these other ones. 175 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: One of the problems that none of them have a tail. 176 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: If you're gonna have a cat mascot, you're gonna need 177 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 1: a tail. But the Kentucky Wildcats made their wildcat a 178 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: mountain lion, but then didn't give the Mountain mine a tail. 179 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: So there's is so biologically incorrect that it's almost distracting, 180 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: especially to the folks in Hope's realm. I love it 181 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: warms my heart in fact, how much all of these 182 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: institutions of higher learning have royally screwed up their mascots. 183 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: What I love a little less though, is, of all 184 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: of these schools with wildcat names as mascots, the one 185 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: that got closest to the actual mark is one from Philadelphia. 186 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: And it pains me because you were saying, as a 187 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: graduate of Syracuse, you love to bang on. The Northwestern 188 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: is a graduate of LaSalle, a Philly school and a 189 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: Big five rival. I have been trained to loathe Villanova, 190 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: and yet Villanova. I hate to say this, but it 191 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: seems that they got this mostly right. They nailed it 192 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: will d Cat, which loved the name, um everything about 193 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: Villanova's tom goa. So Villanova is the one that I 194 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: think qualifies as a wildcat. And it has a long 195 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: tale and it even has some stripes on its head. 196 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: So if you had to kind of spread out and 197 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: look at all of the wildcats, that is the most 198 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: wildcat looking wildcat. Still not true to Villanova, if it 199 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: was true to Villanova, the wildcat would have an ascot 200 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: and a snifter of brandy. And until it does, it's fraudulent. 201 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: But I do like Jay Wright, so I'm willing to 202 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: let it go. I want to run a couple of 203 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: other non wildcat mascots past you. I can't believe I'm 204 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: about to ask this, but what should the TCU horned 205 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: frogs actually be called? John? We're about to open up 206 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: a deep wormhole here, and so this is what's really interesting, right, 207 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: So the TCU horned frogs are actually horned lizards. Sure, 208 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 1: the horned lizards are native to Texas, but they're very 209 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: squat and spiky, and so people mistakenly call them horned 210 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: toads or horny toads. Horny toads obviously would not be 211 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: a good college trascot name anywhere. Seems problematic. Yeah, and 212 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: the coolest thing TCU is totally missing the boat here, 213 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: because the horned lizard, as a defense mechanism, shoots its 214 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: own blood out of its eyes at things attacking it, 215 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: and so like, why would you miss the chance, like 216 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: as a rival mascot if you're coming into the arena 217 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: just to like shower the opposing student section in blood 218 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: from your eyes? You know. Uh, I just think they're 219 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: missing a huge opportunity. Forget about the flower with the 220 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: clown that shoots water. This would be animal blood blood. Yeah, 221 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: animal blood right out of your eye. That's just a 222 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: good bet. That's fun for the whole family. Yeah, it's yeah. 223 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: You bring your kids to TCU games and yeah, mommy 224 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: and daddy. What's wrong with that mascot's eyes? Yeah, it's perfect. 225 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: Now there is a horned frog, but it's native to 226 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 1: South America. It looks nothing like the TCU mascot, and 227 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: it's this very fat, sort of blobbery animal, and you 228 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: don't want that. So TCU has screwed this up, as 229 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: has Delaware, as Hope sees it. What's wrong with the 230 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: fighting blue hens? So the blue hen is a breed 231 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: of chicken, So the full name is blue hen chickens 232 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: and hens. Of course, it's what female chickens are called, 233 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: but it's the male chickens that finarily do the fighting. 234 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: So biologically it's just sort of backwards. They're like what 235 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: you would want to call they would have to be 236 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: the fighting blue hen chickens. You would need the name 237 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 1: in there is the qualifier that you would not mistakenly 238 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: associate the females with the fighters, because they don't they 239 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: don't fight, all right, So Delaware has to go back 240 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: to the drawing board as well. Last one for you, 241 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: and this one I love hope. He absolutely dunks on Kansas. 242 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: How messed up is the Jayhawk? And she wrote the 243 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: last line of this, so we were sending back in 244 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: fourth drafts of the story and then she's like, it 245 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: would be funny to end it this way, and it's true. 246 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: She's like a Kansas jayhawk is neither a J or 247 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: a hawk the end. And I was like, oh, like, 248 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: it's just like one of those like I wish like 249 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: there was a million other people in my office that 250 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: could have screamed when I read that, But uh yeah, 251 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: she's just uh, there's nothing like sharp academics to just 252 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: cut through all the crap in the n C double A, 253 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: and she does it like a hot knife. It's phenomenal. 254 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: Neither a J nor hawk. You through the alleys, she 255 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: throws down the youp. You can read his delightfully bizarre 256 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: dispatch along with Harvard's Hopie hop Stra on si dot com. 257 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: She's the mammalogist. He's the freak of nature. Honor or 258 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: as always your delight, Thank you for this, thank you. 259 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: After a break, we check in with one of the 260 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: best players in women's college basketball, South Carolina's a Leah Boston. 261 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: Almost exactly one year ago in San Antonio, South Carolina's 262 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: women's basketball team experienced a moment they would rather forget. 263 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Two seconds left, Boston follow just missus a deposer Stanford escapes. 264 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: That lost to Stanford stung the entire game Cox team, 265 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: especially their star Aliah Boston, who had missed a last 266 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: second shot from the paint which would have won the game, 267 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: and then she left the court in tears, the heart 268 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: and soul of the South Carolina team overcome with emotion 269 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: after she was unable to finish, then put back at 270 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: the poser. In the off season, Aliah Boston channeled her 271 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: frustration into getting better, even working out with Tim Duncan, 272 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: her fellow forward from the US Virgin Islands. Simply put, 273 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: she's been on a mission, Boston. The footwork and the 274 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: finish she has looked break. They are playing Brooper at 275 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: the high host using a lot of hand I'm just 276 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: a dominant player, hard working definitely competitive. This weekend, she 277 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: leads the top ranks. South Carolina game Cox back to 278 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: the Final four and a shot at redemption. Game Cocks 279 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: are becoming a staple in the Final Four. They'll be 280 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: there for the fourth time. Eliah Boston brought it with 281 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: nineteen points today. They got the ball inside, they dominated defensively. 282 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: That's what South Carolina and it needed to look like. 283 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: Going to Minneapolis, Sports Illustrated staffer Wilton Jackson spoke with 284 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: the Leah Boston and her Hall of Fame coach Don 285 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: Staley about this historic season in which Boston has been 286 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: named SEC Player of the Year, finalist for National Player 287 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: of the Year, and Academic All America for this second time. 288 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and while she was keeping up that g 289 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: p A, she also managed to set a new SEC 290 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: record for consecutive double doubles twenty seven double doubles in 291 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: a role for a Lea Boston. As we can see, 292 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing like they're in the country. A Leah Boston's 293 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: journey to Don staley South Carolina team began in her 294 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 1: native St. Thomas, a pretty idyllic place to grow up, 295 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: but only twelve years old, Boston moved to the Mainland 296 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: to play high level prep basketball outside of while outside 297 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: of Boston, Massachusetts, a place that is not exactly known 298 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: for sunshine and palm trees. The way there absolutely was 299 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: like the biggest transition considering those he doesn't get cold 300 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: and St. Thomas, So that's definitely the first one. But basketball, 301 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a great experience. I don't 302 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: think it was too hard necessarily. Who were just playing more, 303 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: which was good for me. We made that move. You essentially, 304 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: we're leaving from living with your mom and you were 305 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 1: gonna be living with your aunt and your cousin. It 306 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: was different, but I mean my aunt made its same 307 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: family home. There are certain foods that you like from 308 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: the islands, like you know, ox Shales, you like. I've 309 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: heard a lot of people say everybody can't cook those foods, 310 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: correct pod can She can cook it, and she made 311 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: sure she did so. She definitely kept us going with that. Um. 312 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: She would definitely make island foods every once in a 313 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: while and just cook it up and we're just snash 314 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: snash it all down right there saying no, ma'am. Access 315 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: to that probably up Boston halfway through the second quarter, 316 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 1: and another one back to back. She says, Look, they're 317 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: not telling you before I don't come in here. Do 318 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: you want to try to gain it's dominant as you are? 319 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: What keeps you going to get better each day? I 320 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: think it's just how much I love the sport and 321 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: like where I want to go with it. I want 322 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: to go to the league, and you know, there are 323 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: a lot of talented women in the league, and they're 324 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: also not a lot of roster spots. You can't say that, oh, 325 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:27,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start working on my craft when I get 326 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: the league or something like that, because then it's gonna 327 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: be way too late, and you need that work ethic 328 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: when you get there to know that, oh, I have 329 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: to get better. I have to be able to beat 330 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 1: somebody off the dribble now, because now people are gonna 331 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: play me for a jump shot, and so they're gonna 332 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: be on me, but now I have to figure out 333 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 1: a way to get around them. I just want to 334 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: get better, and if I get better, then my team 335 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: will probably get better, and then whom we win. I 336 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: stayment game as they head to the biggest stage and 337 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: women's basketball, you want to be playing your best basketball 338 00:19:54,720 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: right now, especially just when I was starting out just 339 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: playing basketball like I wasn't good, So I just hated 340 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: the fact that I was in So I just wanted 341 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: to get better and playing against like my older sister. 342 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: If we ever played one on one or even played 343 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: against my dad, my dad playing two on one first me, 344 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: my sister and us still losing to the heartbreak, Well, 345 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure you probably couldn't beat you guys, now for sure? 346 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely not. We pull a hamstring. What's your relationship 347 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: with like your mom and your dad? Now, I talked 348 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: to my dad and my mom often. My mom makes 349 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: Sharon calls every day. She probably already called my phone 350 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: this morn bank. We talked every day. We every night. 351 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: We have a family Bible study that we go on together. 352 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: So we're talking there and discussing God. But we're a 353 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: pretty good relationship. Their family of faith, their family that 354 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: pray together. They're rooted in God. They're so positive. You know, 355 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: you could have a bad day, they'll spin it and 356 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: they'll end up making you feel good. So I knew 357 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: what we were getting in that, and I knew we're 358 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: getting into a basketball player. I didn't not, however, know 359 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: that the transformation of her game. I didn't know that 360 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: would come as quickly, and it only came this quickly 361 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: because of her and the work that she puts in 362 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: behind closed doors. I think I've become mentally tough, tougher 363 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 1: than I was freshman years. I mean, I still put 364 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on myself, but I give myself 365 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: more chances to mess up. I think that's the best 366 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: thing that I can say for me, because once I 367 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 1: get up here in my head and everything starts twisting 368 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: and twirling up there, it's not good and it messes 369 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: me up even more than I probably thought that I 370 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: was doing. And so now I don't do that, and 371 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: I give myself at least three shots to miss before 372 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: I started thinking. So, I mean that's progress. When you 373 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: put on a South Carolina uniform, describe that feeling to me. 374 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the best feeling. It's just 375 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: because you know what type of environment we have here, 376 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: the competitive environment, the family aspect of it all. So 377 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: it's just you put this jersey on, It's like I'm 378 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: playing for my family. Um, everybody here wants to win, 379 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: and when we step on that court, everybody just wants 380 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: to make each other better. And I think that's all 381 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: you can ask for in a team, and then we 382 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: have a great coaching staff. How much do you value 383 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: coach stan What does she mean to you? She means everything. 384 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 1: I mean, she's helped me get so far with my 385 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: um college career and I'm just so thankful for her. 386 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: And she's just a great example of what you want 387 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: to be in life and things you want to do. 388 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,760 Speaker 1: So really blessed to have her. When it comes to basketball, 389 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: I'll definitely say it's just about continued to be dominant 390 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 1: and playing the way that I know how to play. 391 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 1: But off the court, it's about getting what you want. 392 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: Being a black woman in society is just it's just different. 393 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: You're at a disadvantage. Things are gonna be hard, but 394 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't stop you. I mean even when you see 395 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: coach Daley on Twitter when some things are happening. I mean, 396 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: she's not afraid to use her voice. That's just a 397 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: great example for us, because it's like, don't be afraid 398 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: to say how you feel just because you know people 399 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: might not agree with you. Let me ask you this, 400 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: and this has nothing to do specifically with the basketball, 401 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:10,879 Speaker 1: but for me, and I don't know if anybody has 402 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: ever told this but I truly admired that you changed 403 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: the color of your hair often. Thank you, I do. 404 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: I love that because I was I saw the picture 405 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: I think Coach Staley had posted. I think she may 406 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: have tagged East me in and it it was like, 407 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: you know, changed the picture to this with your braids 408 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: going back and then like teal blue color. Is it 409 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: any particular, like you know meaning behind it or is 410 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: this something that you just like to do. I got 411 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: braids and started playing braids in high school, but it's 412 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: always just like black or brown. But then in college 413 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: when I started to braiding my hair, I was like, oh, 414 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: what if I tried like this color? And then after 415 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 1: I tried one color, I was like, okay, well let's 416 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 1: try this one. And I'm just like running to even 417 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: I changed my colors all the time. I'm running out 418 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: of like combinations, so I'll go like a solid like 419 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: all purple. But I think it's time as long as 420 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: it's not like black or brown, I'm absolutely okay with it. Absolutely. 421 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: What would you say, is like your favorite your favorite 422 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: color or your favorite combination. I like, I really like 423 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: purple and blue dot combo. The red was just nice. 424 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,640 Speaker 1: I had a nice pink one two, So I would say, 425 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: like purple blue, red pink. I've never seen somebody have 426 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: their great different colors you know some times, but I 427 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: think it's fascinating. So definitely keep doing. You have my 428 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: vote for sure. Thank you. I know you like doing 429 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: TikTok videos. Would you say TikTok is your favorite social 430 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: media platform? I guess I would say that because I'll 431 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: post a TikTok any time, like it's fine. I mean, 432 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: I'll dance. You might not like it, but you'll see it. 433 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: What does coach say, think about you guys when y're 434 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: all are dancing and stuff? Mm, she thinks my dancing 435 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: has gotten a lot better that from the first time 436 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: I said on campus. So we take that as a pro. 437 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: She's been a couple of them who on the team. 438 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: Would you not let date your child of the evossing 439 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: because she ain't given h She is everything that you 440 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: will want a player to be. Low maintenance, hardworking, the 441 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: satiable desire to get better. She wants it, and she's 442 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 1: the best teammate Basketball has an incredible way of just 443 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: repaying her, like is repaying her right now for being 444 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: that that good teammate and for putting a network like she, 445 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: one of her teammates and herself. The experience. One of 446 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: it is to win a national championship. For everybody, the 447 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: major goal is the national championship, and I definitely think 448 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: we all think about that and what's gonna happen. Aliah 449 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 1: Boston and Don Staley South Carolina GAMECOCKX are playing in 450 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: the Final Four this weekend. Wilson Jackson's article is titled 451 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: she wanted a scholarship Now She's the face of women's 452 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: college basketball. Will post a link on our show notes 453 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: after a break the wild true story of one lucky 454 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,119 Speaker 1: gambler who turned twenty five dollars into more than two 455 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty seven thousand. With more states legalizing sports gambling, 456 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: more people are finding different ways to bet on college basketball, 457 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: and increasingly they're doing it online. According to reports, it 458 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: was expected that billions, yes billions, will be bet on 459 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: March Madness by the time it wraps up this weekend. 460 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Maybe some of those gamblers will do well and hit 461 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: some of their bets, but I'm betting that none of 462 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 1: them will do as well as a man who had 463 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: a twenty five team parlay this season four hundreds of 464 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. Kevin Lrose, four years old. I live 465 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: in Cornora at New Jersey, and I own the Rose Construction. 466 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 1: So where in Jersey is that eggit twelve? First of all, 467 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,959 Speaker 1: a round of applause for anyone who answers that question 468 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: with a turnpike exit number. Kevin is exactly the kind 469 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: of better that mobile sports books were trying to win over, 470 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 1: and they did. Jeff Bucky, of course, se do you 471 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: miss those days? Now? You know? I actually like this better. 472 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't care if they take the taxes. You've got 473 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: a lot more opportunities using the sports app than the 474 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: bookies will ever give you. Yeah, and you don't have 475 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 1: to track down your bookie afterwards either. I never had 476 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: to do that. Then guys are on the money with me. 477 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: That's good to hear. Prior to this, Kevin, what's the 478 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: most ever won? I went over a hundred thousand plus 479 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: once a couple of times I hit fifty six thousand. 480 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: You know this is what illegal? Yeah, yeah, we won't 481 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: tell anybody. Yeah, well it is what it is. You know. 482 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: I hit him again about a year later for a hundred, 483 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: and he was not happy. They called me to parlay 484 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: over here with the book he's that's right. We are 485 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: in the presence of royalty. Kevin LeRose, the parlay King 486 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: of New Jersey. And who better to describe what a 487 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: parlay actually is. Well, when you put a lot of 488 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,880 Speaker 1: teams together, so when you put them together, you get 489 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: a higher payout and a parla. You have to hit 490 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: all of the legs of your parlay in order to 491 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: win everyone. You can't miss one. So for a twenty 492 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: five dollar bit, which one I put on that parley, 493 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: I got the two seven thousand on that. You heard 494 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: that right? Kevin LeRose bet twenty five dollars on a 495 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: twenty five leg parlay, and he hit it and won 496 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty seven thousand, five hundred and fifty 497 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: three dollars and eleven cents. The eleven cents, you cannot forget. 498 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: It was the largest ever payout from Caesar's on a 499 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: parlay bet to that point. Now, before Kevin was the 500 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: story of his moonshot bet. Let's take a moment to 501 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: remember that gambling is addictive. And if you have a problem, 502 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: or I think you might, please call one gambler to 503 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: see counseling. And now here's the story of Kevin le Rose, 504 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: the Parley King of New Jersey, and his wild legs. 505 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: That day, I got hit early. One of my teams 506 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: lost on the first game. Well, I liked my bets, 507 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: so I reput the bet in immediately. That was at 508 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: three o'clock. I started at for some reason, their website 509 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: was shaky. You know, sometimes when everybody's betting, you have 510 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: a problem. So I did it once. It kicked it out. 511 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: I put the same teams down again, tried to do 512 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: it again. It kicked me out the third time. I'm 513 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: already at one minute to three these games. Some of 514 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: them games were three o'clock games, and I'm telling you, 515 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: at three o'clock you're out. I had to reload. It 516 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: was three or two when that beat went in, which 517 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 1: is unheard of. I've never got to bed in after 518 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: three o'clock. So that was lucky right there. And then 519 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: from that point on I never lost the game. It 520 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: just kept on winning and winning. I looked at it 521 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: around six o'clock, I had about twelve teams all wins. 522 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: I was winning a lot of the other games. I 523 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: went out and did a couple of errands from my wife, 524 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: went to a sushi bar. My buddy yowns it. Had 525 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: a couple of drinks with him. I had five games 526 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: to go. I told him, this is really good. You know, 527 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, I said, I liked the teams I 528 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: got left. I think I got this. So I went home. 529 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: By the time I got home, two of them already won. 530 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: So I was down to three. I told my wife 531 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: the names to the team. She looks up. She goes 532 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: one of them, just one. I said, well, down to two. 533 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: When U c l A was I was doing a 534 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: money on that they're up by twenty. So I was 535 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: in sweating that it was wyoming. They were given eight. 536 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: At halftime, they were up twelve points. Well, the other team, 537 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: which was Utah Valley, came out and they went on 538 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: a fourteen to two run. Next thing I know, I'm 539 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: down a point or two. I ain't looking good. I'm 540 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: six minutes and I'm still down. They're going back and forth. 541 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: My team is struggling out of nowhere, you know how 542 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: college basketball is. They come on and they go onto 543 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: seventeen to two run. At two minutes, I was at eight, 544 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: and then around seven I was at nine. I said, 545 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: I got it, man, I said, I'm feeling good about this. 546 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: I said nine, but you know you can't. You know, 547 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: still a minute and a half left, and then nothing happens. 548 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm watching CBS Sports because the game wasn't on TV. 549 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the updates, you know how they are slow, 550 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, I see twelve seconds left. 551 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: I'm up by twelve points. So whatever happened in between, 552 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: I hit a three or whatever, I'm up by twelve 553 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: or twelve. I looked at my wifes, I got this. 554 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: I shut the app down. I went in and I 555 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: saw the congratulations. You just want to thirty seven thousand, 556 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: eight hundred and or on dollars? I was like, yeah, 557 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: you can't beat that. I mean, no, you really can't 558 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: beat that. I mean it's literally the most money that's 559 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: ever paid out on a parlay in Caesar's Palace history. Previously, 560 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: the biggest amount of money was about three thousand dollars, 561 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: so you eclipse that many times over. So when you 562 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: hit for that much money, you have twenty five games 563 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: in one day, you won them all. Kevin, you won 564 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars. What's your reaction to that? 565 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: How do you celebrate something like that. Well, you know, 566 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: for a few seconds there, I just was like, you know, 567 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: I gave a couple of fist bumps and kissed my 568 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: wife and I said, uh, I got a nice bottle 569 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: of the time you want to have if the camera 570 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: was on, I have an entire wine selection behind me. 571 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: It's amazing, and it's even better than now that I won. 572 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: Only thought. So I pulled out a really really good 573 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: bottle of red wine, Brunelli Deep Maulticino. That's like one 574 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: of the best wines you can get in Italian and uh, 575 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: I popped that corp open and it was like a 576 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: fourth thirty in the water. We were celebrating. So I 577 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: bet you were so after you hit for this amount 578 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: of money, you're celebrating, you're drinking your good wine. I 579 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: would imagine you get to puff your chest out a 580 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: little bit. You tell your friends and family who are 581 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: the Who are the people that you called and told them? Yeah, 582 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: I told a few people, you know, a couple of 583 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: close friends with a couple of my family. You know, 584 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: not too many people. I didn't go out of my 585 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: way to to let everybody know anything that you're going 586 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: to use the money for do you have an earmark 587 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: for something other than wine? Well, I put something the bank, 588 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: I paid some bills off and now trying to whack 589 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: him again to be part from the honest with you, 590 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: and it's only a matter of time. College basketball is 591 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: your favorite thing to bet on. Why is that? Well, 592 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: because they play hard, and they play all the way through, 593 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,319 Speaker 1: and you get the pros. They don't care if they 594 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: win by ten or twenties, as long as they get 595 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: to win. We're in college. You're ranked by how bad 596 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,399 Speaker 1: you beat a team. So if you're given a certain 597 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 1: amount of points, you can almost count on that team 598 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: pushing it right to the last moment because they want 599 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: to get higher in the rankings. So you have less 600 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: chances of a team saying okay, we got it and 601 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 1: pulling all their starters out and putting the second streamers in. 602 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 1: So you're mostly college in this parlay, and this like parlay, 603 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: you have mostly money launch. You have a couple of 604 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: NBA games in there. You had the grizz money line, 605 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: you had the Clippers money line. But how did you 606 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: select these games? Were there any dart throws where he said, Hey, 607 00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take a shot on this or were 608 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: you methodical about everything? I'm methodical. I check them all out. 609 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: I know what games, what what teams are playing here, 610 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: you know, And I check out what their history is 611 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: with this particular team. I I like to see how 612 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: much they lose by to other teams that are as 613 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: good or better on the road. How will they play 614 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: on the at home? And I take a lot of 615 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: into consideration. I study for hours. There had to be 616 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: some close calls in there. You couldn't have won every 617 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: game comfortably. What was the game that you were looking 618 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: at and you thought, Man, I'm sweating this one a 619 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: little bit. You want to know something. I put these 620 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: bets in sometimes and I just walk away and I 621 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: don't really I once in a while looped up the 622 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: phone and I look and just I don't look at 623 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: the scores. I look into the app the season is 624 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: app to see how many games I won. I don't 625 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: even like to see the scores most of the time, because, 626 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, there was one game I 627 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: was down twenty points and my team came back from 628 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: twenty down and with the last second bucket won the game. Now, 629 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: if I had been watching that, I would have had 630 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: no more nails on my hand. I don't you know, 631 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't need to go through that kind of stress. 632 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: I don't blame you. I just want to see whether 633 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: I want You know, well, you do. You definitely did win. 634 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: But so the game that you end up winning the 635 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: whole thing on you mentioned Wyoming over Utah Valley. I 636 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: didn't know that Utah Valley exists. So explain to me 637 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: how you end up on this game and you think 638 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: to yourself, you know what, Wyoming's really got it over 639 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: this school that John Gonzalez doesn't know exists. You know, 640 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: I like Wyoming. Wyoming is an actually good basketball team. 641 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: You know, I'm looking at Utah Valley and I looked 642 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: at so many games they played and they didn't play 643 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: very good teams, and uh, when they did, they got 644 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: beat pretty good. But that doesn't mean anything because as 645 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: a team goes on in the season, they start to 646 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 1: fix problems that they had and they aren't out some wrinkles, 647 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: and maybe they still lose, but they play better, you know. 648 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: And that's what happened here. So Utah Valley came into 649 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: Wyoming and they played a really good game. The beauty 650 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: of it was is that they ultimately lost by the 651 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: spread and more. And that's all I care about, you know. 652 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: Kevin LeRose, the parlay King of Central New Jersey in 653 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,399 Speaker 1: the winner of the biggest parley in Caesar's history. Well played, Hey, John, 654 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to having another conversation with you, with 655 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: me winning another two hundred or four hundred thousand dollars hopefully, 656 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: and if that happens, I'll be talking to you then. 657 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: Good luck, my friend. You've gotta brother, have a good 658 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: one to enjoy it, appreciate it, take care. 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