Speaker 1: In today's episode the Command Center Podcast, it's happy birthday
Speaker 1: to us, right, Oh yeah, you Michael Jackson out here,
Speaker 1: all right. We talked about the Stefan Diggs traded to
Speaker 1: the Texans and is that Deshaun watching trade the worst
Speaker 1: trade ever? It's stay tuned to find out, and what
Speaker 1: are the Bills going to do a wide receiver? And
Speaker 1: are there receivers that we like in the draft in
Speaker 1: later rounds? It all starts right out. Welcome on into
Speaker 1: the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred
Speaker 1: Swood and Santana mosaying guys, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Happy birthday,
Speaker 1: Happy birthday to this podcast. It's been one year since
Speaker 1: we've done it, and I don't know, man, it's just
Speaker 1: like it doesn't It did fly by, And this is
Speaker 1: one of the funnest shows we do because we just
Speaker 1: sit here and talked the whole time. But I thought
Speaker 1: it'd be a good idea just to kind of say, hey,
Speaker 1: what are your favorite memories from the last year doing
Speaker 1: this show? All the ups, all the all the downs.
Speaker 2: You know, boy bands on you the last as long.
Speaker 2: Let's usually me as Timberlake.
Speaker 3: I usually leave at this time.
Speaker 1: You're just timulating what.
Speaker 3: You know, timulate? Why can I keep too?
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, it's true. You gotta move on to
Speaker 1: make more money. So yeah, so so for me, my
Speaker 1: best memory this year was beating friend and basketball, just
Speaker 1: the build up, the set up, the lack of conditioning,
Speaker 1: the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I was in no shape. But guess what when you
Speaker 4: beat me that day?
Speaker 2: One abb has started to show up each month after that,
Speaker 2: I purchased a bike, like you changed my life that
Speaker 2: you know, I was just drifting for a while.
Speaker 3: I still care about waiting to see that bike too. Picture.
Speaker 3: I didn't give them one of the little they say
Speaker 3: real bikers don't do that riding.
Speaker 4: I love saying that. Did they humble me?
Speaker 3: And plus I don't see how he was so rough, dude.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes people don't know how scrown you are man,
Speaker 2: because listen, you was literally bagging me down and.
Speaker 4: I was like this, I can't stop him from moving.
Speaker 1: I was impressed for how long your arms were quite honestly,
Speaker 1: like I felt very strong, but like I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: Fred's arms are really long.
Speaker 4: Reach That was always mine eyes, man, And you don't.
Speaker 1: Remember your measurement, do you know it?
Speaker 3: Was very long.
Speaker 1: It'd be cool if you could get that up somewhere
Speaker 1: figure out.
Speaker 5: I think my fun is memory just to shed a
Speaker 5: little light on the bake offs. Man, when you know,
Speaker 5: I gotta give it to Zach when you put all
Speaker 5: that white stuff on.
Speaker 1: The dame.
Speaker 3: Kind of like you know what?
Speaker 1: Made that was pretty funny?
Speaker 3: I was. I didn't really mean to come up to
Speaker 3: him like yeah, but I'm like, why would he do that? Bro?
Speaker 3: You over doing it?
Speaker 4: He got reached in his pocket and pull out.
Speaker 1: Of Touchtros And we all love Zach on the show.
Speaker 1: But the one thing Zach will do is he will
Speaker 1: like even the cookies he made. He won the cookies,
Speaker 1: but they had like full chocolate bars in that Like
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, man, just make.
Speaker 4: Its at home and said, you know what, how could
Speaker 4: I want to.
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 2: He constantly overthinks things. But what I'm really waiting on
Speaker 2: for the future is the bowling.
Speaker 1: The bowling.
Speaker 4: We haven't done it yet.
Speaker 2: Now we didn't need some charity bowling, but we haven't
Speaker 2: done the bowling yet. I cannot waiting and shout at them, well, it's.
Speaker 1: Crazy to me because I don't think anyone disputed that
Speaker 1: you were like a good bowler at any point, and
Speaker 1: you were just like we're bowling, Like I got to
Speaker 1: show you that I'm better than you are bowling. And
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, well.
Speaker 3: He's like you know, he's over right now. Yeah. He
Speaker 3: didn't even win it.
Speaker 1: Down, I didn't.
Speaker 3: They told, didn't they vote? He didn't beat me in
Speaker 3: the field goal kicking.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was sheer power wooking.
Speaker 1: It was sher power. But also I think the funny
Speaker 1: thing about that Fred is like you came in. People
Speaker 1: don't know this little little peel behind the veil here is.
Speaker 1: We came in the office and and Jason was telling
Speaker 1: me that. They were like, O, can you kick a
Speaker 1: field goal? You're like thirty five yarder? And then it
Speaker 1: was like then it turned into a competition because you
Speaker 1: were so confident that you could do it. So I actually, honestly,
Speaker 1: when Jason was like, come kick a field goal, I
Speaker 1: was like I was kind of nervous, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: was like, man, maybe Fred can actually kick field goals yea.
Speaker 1: And so we got out there, we had to kick
Speaker 1: that fifteen yarder start and it was just like Shank,
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I got this one. Got
Speaker 1: it in the bag.
Speaker 3: It's hard to kick a field goal, no doubt. Like
Speaker 3: people sit there. I know. I don't know why you
Speaker 3: didn't know that people sit there and like turn a
Speaker 3: TV on? Is that right?
Speaker 1: Finkle?
Speaker 2: Now I'm telling you kicking a field I can only
Speaker 2: matter how it feels with one hundred thousand people in
Speaker 2: the stadium and that pressure.
Speaker 5: We think that's the easiest position on our team or
Speaker 5: on the field, and it's it's.
Speaker 3: By far one of the most toughest.
Speaker 5: I'm talking about specially, it's thinking about the mental part
Speaker 5: of it, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, think about
Speaker 5: you mentally getting focused and saying, you know, this drive
Speaker 5: has been an end with my foot.
Speaker 3: One way or another.
Speaker 4: You's either going to be a field goal or extra point.
Speaker 2: And agree that what is the what is the pseudo
Speaker 2: easiest position in football? And we had to pick one
Speaker 2: to say, you know what they job is easy, But
Speaker 2: I say it's a pawner.
Speaker 1: Even those guys ain't kicking a sod.
Speaker 3: You had to punt to win in the game, I've seen.
Speaker 1: I got a funny story. So we were because we
Speaker 1: were in Chicago, was freezing, like you're saying, it was
Speaker 1: really cold. We were up by We're up by a
Speaker 1: touch by two, so we needed to punt get him down.
Speaker 1: There was like seven seconds left. There was like no
Speaker 1: time left at all. Andre Roberts, So I forget who
Speaker 1: was playing for at the time. Yeah, we got out
Speaker 1: there in pun formation. They came out in pump block formation,
Speaker 1: so they brought our gunners in and I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: they're about to run this thing back. I knew it
Speaker 1: in my mind because I was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't cover kick to save my life, and I'm
Speaker 1: out why am I here? I'm out here. They're about
Speaker 1: to block our two best cover guys. And so we
Speaker 1: got down there and I'm the first one down there,
Speaker 1: and I'm like you, I was like this touchdown, touchdown.
Speaker 3: I know it.
Speaker 1: I know if I'm the first one down here, everyone
Speaker 1: else is getting their face blocked off and they're about
Speaker 1: to go over and score touchdown. We lost game on them.
Speaker 4: Wow, Well it happened so few in between.
Speaker 1: Also, dude, I got a funny story. So I remember
Speaker 1: one of my other big claims to fame historically. Remember
Speaker 1: when Devin Hester was like rolling through and I think
Speaker 1: he was about to break the record. This is twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen ten and we were really bad on special teams,
Speaker 1: and I remember we were out there playing the Bears
Speaker 1: and I was like, and it was like if he
Speaker 1: if he runs this one back, he'll break the record.
Speaker 1: And so I remember I got kind of hummed up.
Speaker 1: And then Niles missed the tackle and then he's running
Speaker 1: wide the feel and I'm like, oh, and that.
Speaker 3: Was probably the slowest we turn watch. He's not even
Speaker 3: running there. Well, we can't gets it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm gonna get him. And I
Speaker 1: came over there around the corner and there's four or
Speaker 1: five dudes right in front of him, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I am gonna save the touchdown tackle. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: on Sports Center. And right when that thought entered and
Speaker 1: exited my mind, somebody came out of nobody to even see,
Speaker 1: and dear leeted me. So I made Sports Center, but
Speaker 1: not for the way that I was gonna make it.
Speaker 4: Hey, I had John Howe you remember him, He used
Speaker 4: to be your kick it. Then we turned to the
Speaker 4: Jet Skins for the year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we brought it.
Speaker 2: We brought it like twenty four JITs. My boy Randy
Speaker 2: tummins All of them. So Joe Howard the only kick
Speaker 2: I know that just constantly stay hurt, like I didn't know.
Speaker 4: Why we play in the game. He pulled a hamscreak.
Speaker 2: Oh so now Derek Froust.
Speaker 1: Punter has to kick. They can't kick people sleep on
Speaker 1: that has has to kick field goals, miss every one
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 2: It's the point like, oh, I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I didn't really think because I was.
Speaker 3: Like, if you can kick, you can kick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different.
Speaker 4: No, it's totally different.
Speaker 5: One is literally positioned then, but the easiest, the easiest,
Speaker 5: easy backup quarterback.
Speaker 3: No, because they don't play.
Speaker 4: Let's go with playing position position from thinking.
Speaker 3: I don't think no, I'm easy, but from none, I'm easy.
Speaker 3: But the degrees are harder.
Speaker 1: We have to say from a mental standpoint, yeah, defensive
Speaker 1: end has to be the easiest one because it's literally
Speaker 1: just like, this is your gap, Go get the quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I know that I couldn't do it because you
Speaker 1: need to be tremendously athletic. All the biggest freaks in
Speaker 1: the NFL do that. Yeah, but that's gotta be mentally
Speaker 1: one of these.
Speaker 2: You say, that's a position more instinct than thinking, Oh,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: So I gotta be because you can set the edge
Speaker 3: all day. You ain't getting no second. I'm gonna set
Speaker 3: the d even I gotta say. I'm gonna make sure
Speaker 3: you know what I'm he was.
Speaker 1: He was a beast at that though. I remember blocking him.
Speaker 3: In Elizabeth.
Speaker 4: Shuttle Fields.
Speaker 3: I wrote, you know what, somebody left like that. But
Speaker 3: it's some true.
Speaker 4: Played no defense yet.
Speaker 1: But he also was one of the biggest human beings wrongest.
Speaker 3: I remember the first time bench the house, swat the house.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time he came through the door. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, I shouldn't be in the NFL. Like
Speaker 1: that's how big he was. Always felt like you should
Speaker 1: be attack on his recovery day, do you remember this,
Speaker 1: He's coming on the off day. So Monday after the
Speaker 1: game he would deadlift six eighty, or he's deadlift seven
Speaker 1: to ten, squat six eighty, bench five hundred.
Speaker 4: That was his off dad, And when he won bench
Speaker 4: of five hundred, snitching on the t keep me real,
Speaker 4: Shulgar Fells.
Speaker 2: Tell them out of time, don't you worrybody getting to
Speaker 2: the quarterback?
Speaker 3: What true everybody is if they throw their screen to
Speaker 3: be right.
Speaker 4: There, right the way.
Speaker 2: So it allows me to play a limit free because
Speaker 2: Drake don't give me my pass rush, Grill don't give
Speaker 2: me my pass rush from the middle, and Marcus Washington.
Speaker 3: And Levarna add to the pass rush. But you got
Speaker 3: to know your players to know who's gonna bring what.
Speaker 5: Philip dans Man, I just be saying then back then
Speaker 5: this windmill and trying to get around.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn be too mean to be sitting up
Speaker 3: there playing Patty kick no.
Speaker 2: And that's why I always felt like, especially on passes down,
Speaker 2: like they should move him inside.
Speaker 3: Because I felt like, now, like a lot of times
Speaker 3: you gotta think.
Speaker 1: Well, now you're speaking of that, speaking.
Speaker 3: Of that, we played a lot of guys out of place,
Speaker 3: like we had.
Speaker 5: We had defenses that didn't fit the guys we had,
Speaker 5: so that probably could have been one of the things
Speaker 5: that he was just too big to see him not
Speaker 5: be able to like Domin because he dominated earlier in
Speaker 5: his career, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So it's full back the easiest busise.
Speaker 1: Hell, No, have you played fullback before, dude? Full Back?
Speaker 1: Fullback is like a come to Jesus moment. Imagine every play,
Speaker 1: every hit being the hardest that you've ever taken. Like
Speaker 1: that's what fullback is, and so it might be mentally
Speaker 1: very easy, but you have to be a little messed
Speaker 1: up by so you an m M A fight if
Speaker 1: you see ful dude, Yeah, dude, I remember there was
Speaker 1: I think I told you this stuff. I told you
Speaker 1: serve before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Harry Mars.
Speaker 1: So when I was in San fran there was a
Speaker 1: rash of people in goal line situations on lead, which
Speaker 1: is a great goal line run of fullbacks getting knocked unconscious.
Speaker 1: So Kyle, you check, got not knocked unconscious. So I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's too bad. He's a really good
Speaker 1: football player, the mismatch guy for us. They're like, who
Speaker 1: can we put it full back that we don't care
Speaker 1: if they get knocked on conscious And I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: Kyle was like this at the meeting and he just
Speaker 1: was like and I was like, now looking at him,
Speaker 1: I was like looking over here, and then I was
Speaker 1: like he was like, look, you want to do it?
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, I guess I'll do
Speaker 1: it whenever to keep his uniform, and then Mike Coach
Speaker 1: to the meeting says, if they call lead, I'm you're
Speaker 1: like you're You're like, my son, just fall down, don't
Speaker 1: do it, Just fall down. Make me call different the game.
Speaker 1: He's like, just fall on the ground. And I was
Speaker 1: like what And he was like, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: give you a minus. I'll say it was my fault.
Speaker 1: Just fault. I don't want you getting hurt and like that.
Speaker 1: For to be a fullback in the NFL, yeah, like
Speaker 1: you have to do. Or just Dent. Who's that guy
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions, Mike Schleareth or whatever, Mike Slitch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever his name was, he would Dent. I heard this
Speaker 1: from the equipment guy there. Yeah, with Dent. Five face
Speaker 1: masks unusable every game. Could you imagine hitting someone with
Speaker 1: your face?
Speaker 4: Could you imagine me hidden? I was a tack. It's
Speaker 4: a different between a hitter and attack.
Speaker 1: Cory Slessinger that was the name.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, football just a tough, tough sport. Man.
Speaker 5: I don't care who you are when it comes to it. Man,
Speaker 5: it's no position. I don't think that's just easy. I
Speaker 5: mean even mentally, a physical receiver's pretty easy.
Speaker 3: I'm just getting over.
Speaker 1: Some of the stress I had, so best memories those
Speaker 1: are good, Okay, So I think the next thing is
Speaker 1: what do we want to do next? Right? I think
Speaker 1: there were some talking about us doing a live show.
Speaker 1: I don't know when people come, wait, leave a comment,
Speaker 1: did you come and watch us do this live? We're
Speaker 1: just sitting around with microphones and makes fun of it.
Speaker 2: I said, we was at the casino at the sports park,
Speaker 2: at the sports team, and yeah, they'll come live.
Speaker 3: And let them know when we go live.
Speaker 5: It'd be nice to have a guess with us because
Speaker 5: that's what normally gets them even more and.
Speaker 2: They can go questions, they can as us whatever they want.
Speaker 3: Live is what is that? I did once?
Speaker 5: You know, I had my own individual podcast back in
Speaker 5: twenty and seventeen eighteen and we did it live, not
Speaker 5: we didn't know what we was doing and we just
Speaker 5: did it roight hered one louder and people showed up
Speaker 5: at mess box. There was a lot of folks and
Speaker 5: then most of them showed up. Yeah, so you came
Speaker 5: up and be Mitch. Everybody came. So you know, live
Speaker 5: is where is that? And then have to have the
Speaker 5: kind of following that we have in this short span
Speaker 5: of time, just to say, hey, we reached that.
Speaker 3: Marcus a whole year now had we had that year date.
Speaker 5: I know these fans would want to show up if
Speaker 5: somebody want to see you in person, are.
Speaker 3: I know for a fact they want to tell you
Speaker 3: how bad you treat.
Speaker 5: Yeah, young lady want to see you at first, Like
Speaker 5: while you're picking on Fred all you probably don't have
Speaker 5: a shirt made.
Speaker 1: Well, glad you said shirts, because we could also make
Speaker 1: shirts say like make a merch, don't pick on Fred,
Speaker 1: don't pick on Fred, or like that hawk outside. I'm
Speaker 1: better saying it that was pretty good. That was pretty good,
Speaker 1: and then maybe a picture with Fred's face on it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what do you think?
Speaker 3: Whatever you needn't quote, but quote me.
Speaker 2: You have to say kind of merch, talking about bracelets,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to come out with these days.
Speaker 1: And if you've ever been to a live event with Fredd,
Speaker 1: you should definitely remember the first live event I ever
Speaker 1: did with Fred. Like we were sitting there with me
Speaker 1: and Brayon. We were just hanging out with a small group,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, in the middle of Fred
Speaker 1: just gets up and starts walking through the crowd, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I've never seen anybody do that at
Speaker 1: a live event. Like it was unprompted. The person's like no,
Speaker 1: you can sit down, and he's like no, I got
Speaker 1: you and just up and start asking fans questions. I
Speaker 1: was like, this man is.
Speaker 5: Out out there, was at the state House the other day.
Speaker 5: I'm texting Fred anywhere yet man pull up. Fred came
Speaker 5: in there and it went from being quiet to just.
Speaker 3: Like everybody was like he was just getting ready for that.
Speaker 3: Hey Fred, he didn't win in it. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: not a du never a dumb moment with him.
Speaker 4: So hey, somebody got to break a little light.
Speaker 1: To a place and then you bring all the life
Speaker 1: it possible.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 1: So now I was actually talking football. So there was
Speaker 1: some big news this last week I guess was last week. Yep,
Speaker 1: Stephan Jiggs Digs traded to the Houston Texans. Houston received
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs a sixth round pick and a fifth round pick,
Speaker 1: and Buffalo receives a twenty twenty five second round pick
Speaker 1: via Minnesota. So I don't know, it's just one of
Speaker 1: those things that just I think a lot of fans
Speaker 1: see that and I just want to get your guys
Speaker 1: thoughts on it. Yeah, it seems like, oh they gave
Speaker 1: him away and they did get him away, Yeah, they gave.
Speaker 1: But there's some context here, so let's talk about it.
Speaker 5: I mean, when you look at being a DVA that
Speaker 5: he was, they felt like they felt like that later
Speaker 5: part of the season last year, they was able to
Speaker 5: be successful without them. And if you feel like he's
Speaker 5: not going to be somebody that you want to see
Speaker 5: in the future or going forward, you're going to probably
Speaker 5: you know, be able to do something with whether it's
Speaker 5: financially or even on the field, then you deal them.
Speaker 5: We've seen this game has almost showed us how the
Speaker 5: basketball players feel. You know, I've seen so many trades nowadays,
Speaker 5: like especially in the middle of the season. I've never
Speaker 5: seen anything like that what we went through last year
Speaker 5: and some of these before that, Like my years a
Speaker 5: player here, you rarely saw top notch guys get spaced
Speaker 5: off the team season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you never see that in the middle of the season.
Speaker 5: So we getting to a point now where it's so
Speaker 5: much talent and guys are being strategic when it comes
Speaker 5: to how they map out things like if they have
Speaker 5: a chance to go out there and get a Odell
Speaker 5: Beckham to make them gives a Super Bowl run, We're
Speaker 5: going to pull that trigger. If you got a chance
Speaker 5: to go out here and get one though, get to
Speaker 5: get a pass rushers that's going to benefit us next year,
Speaker 5: We're gonna pull the trigger now. So we want to
Speaker 5: have him go out here and finish this and get better,
Speaker 5: and then we can't afford him. So I've seen so
Speaker 5: many different things, and this is like one of those cases.
Speaker 5: Like you have a guy in Diggs still had an
Speaker 5: incredible year last year in credible Tom. You know he's
Speaker 5: a gifted receiver. Yeah, I think he brings a lot
Speaker 5: with that, and it's not always good. Yeah, Buffalo, Like,
Speaker 5: look man, you know we can get something for you,
Speaker 5: We'll let you.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't realize something in life like.
Speaker 2: Emotion emotionly instability. He just people that's not emotionally there stable.
Speaker 4: They don't they don't reach the pinnacle what they could be.
Speaker 2: Like, even as much as good as step Fun Diggs is,
Speaker 2: people are really talk about him lashing out, or they'll
Speaker 2: really talk about him acting like a baby, him saying
Speaker 2: this and saying this, And that's why people would rather
Speaker 2: have a Santana Moss who just gonna do his job clock.
Speaker 4: In another day to get it done. But see we've
Speaker 4: seen this story with.
Speaker 5: A let's say a B, like that's the prime when
Speaker 5: you just said that, that's the prime example, because I
Speaker 5: honestly believe that if AB could have kept a clean slate.
Speaker 5: Interesting to hear the top jaed, right. I mean it
Speaker 5: was that was a that was a tall feat. But
Speaker 5: I'm just saying like he was headed there, we was headed.
Speaker 5: He was on that trajectory like he was unbelievable numbers
Speaker 5: year after year after year after year, so couldn't.
Speaker 2: Get out his own way here on the head and
Speaker 2: that emotion like because they want to say the people
Speaker 2: that take up for me.
Speaker 4: Like, no, he just loved the game.
Speaker 3: We all of us love the gain.
Speaker 1: We don't.
Speaker 2: We don't last shout like that. You know better yet
Speaker 2: we'll wait till we get in the locker room.
Speaker 3: It's a difference, though.
Speaker 5: You got to understand something, and a lot of us
Speaker 5: deal with this as players. And then there's players that
Speaker 5: don't know how they emotionally, you know, gather theyself in
Speaker 5: those moments. So prime example, when I went through the
Speaker 5: little thing I went through my last year here, you
Speaker 5: know how many guys reached out to me from different
Speaker 5: other people like Hey, tell Twner he needs to do
Speaker 5: this in the meeting.
Speaker 3: He need to say this. And I'm like, bro, to
Speaker 3: be honest with you.
Speaker 5: Putting the bulls out on me more than what it
Speaker 5: is right now, that's gonna help. That's ain't gonna help
Speaker 5: me because obviously, if I was worthy of it, the
Speaker 5: coach would have to be doing it, which I'm not
Speaker 5: saying I wasn't, but he don't owe me anything. And
Speaker 5: at the same time, all you guys in that locker room,
Speaker 5: I'm still playing for you. I'm still here because of
Speaker 5: you guys. So I don't want to make this team
Speaker 5: have to carry me going in the media talking about
Speaker 5: what is doing. You know what I'm saying, that's drama
Speaker 5: that we don't need. And so I've always been a
Speaker 5: guy and it's just before that. I'm a team player.
Speaker 5: I'm a team player because I feel like that's the
Speaker 5: only way you can win, especially on the team sport.
Speaker 3: I can't win by myself. I can't do it myself.
Speaker 5: I need a quarterback, I need the blockers, I need
Speaker 5: the officer line, I need a running back. I need
Speaker 5: everybody to be successful as a receiver. So that's the
Speaker 5: same way as a team, you know, as an individual.
Speaker 5: So a lot of these guys I watch it all
Speaker 5: the time and they say, I've been hearing this def
Speaker 5: thing about receiving it for a long time, which it
Speaker 5: fit certain people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that''t me the damn ball do this, do that.
Speaker 5: But when you put that bullz out on you and
Speaker 5: then you're not ready for something happens.
Speaker 3: Now they're gonna talk and today today's game.
Speaker 5: Yea social media everybody's the biggest credit. Now you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, So it comes out that much more negative.
Speaker 5: So that's why I've always kept that kind of Look,
Speaker 5: it's not about me, it's about what they want to do.
Speaker 3: And as long as we wining doing this, yeah, let
Speaker 3: me sit back and shut my mouth.
Speaker 2: So when we look back five years from now, who
Speaker 2: you think won is trade?
Speaker 4: Do you think is the Houston Texas?
Speaker 3: How you think the Bills?
Speaker 2: Because sometimes you know you can win by by losing
Speaker 2: something to move forward, also in one side gaining something.
Speaker 3: To move forward.
Speaker 4: So in five years, who wins this this deal?
Speaker 1: Well that I was about to say though too though,
Speaker 1: like starting to cut you off to you, is that
Speaker 1: even though Stefan Diggs has all kind of this emotional
Speaker 1: baggage around him, right, and he kind of seems to
Speaker 1: wear out his welcome in the world out in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: whereas out in Buffalo. There is a period of time
Speaker 1: where he's a very productive player on this Texas team,
Speaker 1: this Texans team, He's a true number one. And then
Speaker 1: you add that to Tank Dell, Nico Collins, the tight
Speaker 1: end Dalton Schultz, Like you've got some legitimate playmakers around
Speaker 1: a young quarterback Joe Mixon, and so yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think this is an op quite frankly, an opportunity for
Speaker 1: this team to kind of say, hey, we're ready to
Speaker 1: make a playoff push because of what CJ. Shad can do.
Speaker 1: So I know it kind of maybe feels like Buffalo's
Speaker 1: winning and Houston's winning, But as of right now, it
Speaker 1: seems like a good trade for both sides. And we
Speaker 1: won't know. But if let's say, for example, they get
Speaker 1: into they get to the super Bowl, you know, like
Speaker 1: hypothetically speaking, and then it's a win for Houston, I.
Speaker 4: Guess how lucky? How do you envy him in a way?
Speaker 2: His first quarterback was Kirk Cuzin, his second one was
Speaker 2: Josh Ally, and now he got CJ. Scrad Have you
Speaker 2: had anybody on that level? You did have Kirk, but
Speaker 2: it was a young Kirk. But it was a young Kirk.
Speaker 5: I think, if you want to look at that level,
Speaker 5: see I look at quarterbacks differently. I liked the older quarterbacks,
Speaker 5: the more seasoned quarterbacks. I feel like they they had
Speaker 5: so much seasoning on that game to where they knew
Speaker 5: where to put the ball out. They know how to
Speaker 5: get college this chief. So that's why I love Todd Collins.
Speaker 5: That's why I love mcnaw when he came here for that,
Speaker 5: for that little short.
Speaker 3: Bit of time we played.
Speaker 5: That's why I say Mark Todays day, Vinnie Testa Verdi
Speaker 5: and Mark Runell is my favorite. I love Vinnie in
Speaker 5: New York. Chad was good too, but I had success
Speaker 5: out the gate.
Speaker 3: With Vinnie, you know what I'm saying. And here Mark,
Speaker 3: we now like those guys.
Speaker 5: When I look at today's game, I care less about
Speaker 5: how young you are.
Speaker 3: I just want to see you. You know football.
Speaker 5: You know from looking at this this blank canvas right now.
Speaker 5: When I when we line up in this formation, this
Speaker 5: is how they're gonna be able to stop it.
Speaker 3: And where is read the hole?
Speaker 5: Where the weakness, where the weakness is gonna be. So
Speaker 5: those guys did that for me, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: They made my game easy when I got to sit
Speaker 5: out there and think, for you, are we in trouble?
Speaker 1: And the Texans did disinteresting contract stuff here, and I
Speaker 1: think this is interesting about like the receiver market. And
Speaker 1: one thing before we get to the receiver market, I
Speaker 1: want to bring this up. I think it's also interesting.
Speaker 1: I think quarterback salary is going to play a big
Speaker 1: role in this in this next conversation we're going to
Speaker 1: have with regards to receiver market, and so I wanted
Speaker 1: to just say, like, the Texans took three point five
Speaker 1: million dollars of guaranteed money and gave it to Diggs
Speaker 1: for this next season. So he's going to be making
Speaker 1: twenty two point five to two million dollars next year,
Speaker 1: which is a lot of money. And so so to me,
Speaker 1: what is this dude for the receiver market? And the
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to bring up is, I do think
Speaker 1: it's interesting that big time receivers seem to be moving
Speaker 1: on from teams that have paid their quarterback a lot
Speaker 1: of money. Now right, they have both, they gotta find
Speaker 1: ways to save money. So what does this trade mean,
Speaker 1: because obviously he's making a lot of money or over
Speaker 1: one year, what does this mean for the receiver market
Speaker 1: moving forward?
Speaker 3: Give me your intell for because I know I want
Speaker 3: to say something.
Speaker 2: No, I think when it comes to the receiver market,
Speaker 2: I think it's always affected by the draft, And because
Speaker 2: this draft is loaded with receivers, you gonna see people
Speaker 2: less prone to play the other guy when I can
Speaker 2: get the same production from a guy that I could
Speaker 2: have six years going forward. So I think the thing
Speaker 2: about it is, and you said it, if my quarterback
Speaker 2: makes two hundred and fifty million, my wide receiver can't
Speaker 2: make a hundred men ago like, it's.
Speaker 4: Just may up to it.
Speaker 2: Now, if I got a young quarterback, how can I
Speaker 2: protect him with a older receiver who's gonna draw double
Speaker 2: coverage so he can throw backside.
Speaker 4: One on one and throw side tight end matchups.
Speaker 2: So for as much as I paid his receiver, he's
Speaker 2: actually worth it for the progression of my quarterbacks.
Speaker 4: So he can get to.
Speaker 2: The position of a Josh Hallen that I don't need
Speaker 2: a true number one wide receiver.
Speaker 3: I can get to the level of.
Speaker 2: Pat Mahons where I don't need Tyreek Hill no more
Speaker 2: because once we can't afford them too. I can turn
Speaker 2: people into stars because my quarterback, they had the guy.
Speaker 2: But guess what when Alex Smith was the quarterback and
Speaker 2: they still had Tyreek Hill and the rest of those
Speaker 2: guys inserted Pat Mahons unstoppable offense. But he was still learning.
Speaker 2: He knew what the double team was. They won double
Speaker 2: team and Kelsey at the time they was double team Tyree.
Speaker 2: So I think that wide receiver unlocks the potential of
Speaker 2: youth by also kind of getting ran away by the quarterback.
Speaker 4: With all the potential that gets paid.
Speaker 5: So the market is sky high for the guys that
Speaker 5: have proven theirself, you see everybody. I mean, like I'm
Speaker 5: looking at some of these numbers, guys who you know,
Speaker 5: guys that's just putting up, you know, mediocre seasons, and
Speaker 5: they getting close to like what the top guys in
Speaker 5: my era was getting. You know, in my era when
Speaker 5: I first got my first deal here, you know, the
Speaker 5: top receivers was making six million a year, and then
Speaker 5: it went up, you know, drastically from there. So by
Speaker 5: the time I was leaving, it was more like in
Speaker 5: the twelve fifteen you're getting a guy who's a third
Speaker 5: a third receiver making twelve now a year.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So if you look at it, it's great that they say, Okay, Stephan,
Speaker 5: we giving you this twenty something plus because you are
Speaker 5: a number one guy.
Speaker 3: You know you're.
Speaker 5: Bringing money here with you from your last deal, and
Speaker 5: we're going to go ahead and grant you this other stuff.
Speaker 5: But the thing that what does now what these teams
Speaker 5: are doing, it's about their books. It's all about the books.
Speaker 5: If my quarterback is here when it comes to in
Speaker 5: my pocket, then I need to find a safe haven
Speaker 5: with these guys that in the middle, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 5: So now I'd rather go out and get some young talent.
Speaker 5: Then I don't have to pay my I don't have
Speaker 5: to pay them as much. I got you on my side,
Speaker 5: and I still got talent. I got some guys who's
Speaker 5: capable of coming here and being in Stephan Diggs much
Speaker 5: younger and going to have a higher ceiling because of
Speaker 5: now they come into a game where the quarterback is
Speaker 5: proven and he's already the money man, yep, where a
Speaker 5: guy like Dick's going to what you just say, I
Speaker 5: mean you hit it on the head. He's going to
Speaker 5: Houston where the quarterback is on the ricked deal. Play
Speaker 5: is here, yeah.
Speaker 3: But money is here. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I could bring that big money receiver in because
Speaker 5: by the time I pay him, he should be.
Speaker 3: Out the door. Yeah, we're not going to probably be
Speaker 3: paying him anybody.
Speaker 2: They shrunk that deal because not because of the quarterback.
Speaker 4: They shrunk that deal to.
Speaker 2: One kind of dictate terms with him, but also Nico
Speaker 2: Collins coming up, So they didn't want to tie their
Speaker 2: hands and say, no, we can't even offer Nico because
Speaker 2: we're playing the older guy. They said, now we're gonna
Speaker 2: take that out of there. Wasn't that pay him, keep
Speaker 2: him on a short least, but also have the ability.
Speaker 4: To keep a guy like Nico Collin.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. I think that's I
Speaker 1: think it's just such an interesting thing. And the receiver
Speaker 1: market for a while look like everyone was getting paid everyone,
Speaker 1: everyone was getting paid. Now it does seem like there
Speaker 1: is a kind of top flight grill. It's going to
Speaker 1: get paid like the four or five, And if you're
Speaker 1: not in that top like the top flight group, you're
Speaker 1: not going to get paid the same.
Speaker 3: You're still getting money crazy, you're a second tier.
Speaker 4: That's what we just seen.
Speaker 2: Like we've seen last year, five wide receivers get the
Speaker 2: same amount of money Terry A. J.
Speaker 1: Brown.
Speaker 4: It was like five of these guys.
Speaker 2: And some of these guys kind of fight from leaning
Speaker 2: to oh I'm one A to some one B.
Speaker 4: But they still jumped up right there together.
Speaker 2: So that's telling you where the comfortable spot right now
Speaker 2: for a receiver is probably like five years eighty million.
Speaker 3: It's almost like that.
Speaker 5: It's almost like two is when it. When it comes
Speaker 5: to this, you can't even you can't even fought to
Speaker 5: receive it for this being.
Speaker 3: Hitting the mark at the right time, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, Like with with Kirk.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody got their painties in the bunch with Kirk,
Speaker 5: Why is he getting what they what they giving quarterbacks
Speaker 5: of his stature, you know what I mean. He deserves
Speaker 5: the money because he's a first he's he's coming in
Speaker 5: to be number one.
Speaker 3: So you can't you can't.
Speaker 5: We can't worry about the man pocket because he's sitting
Speaker 5: in that position to receive that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And it's odd because you see a guy coming off
Speaker 5: of Achilles and You're like, wow, but we know Kirk
Speaker 5: from being a gun sling.
Speaker 4: Round of applow. Kirk cussing gets the gray.
Speaker 2: You know, one of my favorite movie boys in the
Speaker 2: hood when you begetting juice coming there store punching it.
Speaker 2: I bet you every time Robert Griffin turning the TV
Speaker 2: on the punching the head like I can't believe it, dude.
Speaker 1: Keep and another little like fun little note here before
Speaker 1: we get to our next topic, is that this Stefan
Speaker 1: Digg's trade is a result of the Deshaun Watson trade.
Speaker 1: And maybe about Kirk right, it's like it's like cannon
Speaker 1: fodder from that trade that they've like parceled out and
Speaker 1: subdivided and they've gotten here, and so is that maybe
Speaker 1: like the worst trade of all time? But think about it,
Speaker 1: from that trade, they got a starting guard, Kean Greed.
Speaker 1: They got Damian Pierce, she's like of a football player.
Speaker 1: They got Will Anderson junior light pass rush. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: got Tank tel who's one of the best young receivers
Speaker 1: in the gamep on Diggs. And they haven't even picked
Speaker 1: in this year's draft.
Speaker 4: And they still got No. One pick in his draft.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: So I told you the only trade that stinks in
Speaker 2: weeks of this type foulness is that herschel Walker trade
Speaker 2: that started the dynasty for the Cowboys. They end up
Speaker 2: getting there watch I mean a Woodson. I think they
Speaker 2: end up getting Michael Irving out of that draft. I
Speaker 2: think they got like six daughters.
Speaker 3: Coming to say the same year. I think they got
Speaker 3: like six daughters out of the draft.
Speaker 4: Why hersher went on the rust for like three and
Speaker 4: a half yard.
Speaker 3: It wasn't three and a half yards.
Speaker 2: He literally didn't get many yards and they traded him
Speaker 2: to die.
Speaker 4: But hershamalk Minnesota. Did you got in highlights?
Speaker 3: He hey, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: But they're also I mean, so it's Cleveland's tough because
Speaker 1: they're they're in the they're like a playoff college. But
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, they're playing. Now he has been healthy,
Speaker 1: that's another conversation. I think.
Speaker 4: I think Joe he hasn't played to his potential. You know,
Speaker 4: he hasn't looked like his old self.
Speaker 5: And I don't look at it as if it's just
Speaker 5: he can't play. I just feel like, man, it's hard
Speaker 5: to miss them years and come back and.
Speaker 2: Those years, and I think it's mental with him, imagine this.
Speaker 2: A quarterback used to be in love by our whole city, and.
Speaker 4: Now you're kind of like a pariah.
Speaker 3: That's what anybody else.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be the best me when I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: So I think that was the reason I give him
Speaker 2: a legit reason. I could see him not being himself
Speaker 2: because he just doesn't feel like he don't feel the love.
Speaker 2: And I think that they bothered something at the least.
Speaker 2: Some at the least don't need love. But a quarterback
Speaker 2: need love.
Speaker 3: We know you don't need. I hate everybody.
Speaker 1: We got, we gotta gotta, we gotta call her. We
Speaker 1: got Jason just.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the herschel Walker trade.
Speaker 2: They used some of the picks that they got in
Speaker 2: that trade to get Darren Woodson.
Speaker 1: And it was EMMITTT. Smith Michael.
Speaker 3: Year before. I know it was eminent and I knew.
Speaker 1: I'm glad to fact check that. But the other thing
Speaker 1: talking Michael said is with the receiver market, because we
Speaker 1: took a little side there in a kind of bad
Speaker 1: trade philosophy, but in the importance of getting more picks,
Speaker 1: which is something we talk about in the draft all
Speaker 1: the time. The Antenna mention this briefly and I think
Speaker 1: it's really important is there are so many good receivers
Speaker 1: in this draft class, so I would have to imagine
Speaker 1: that that's going to affect There's just such a saturation
Speaker 1: every year there's.
Speaker 4: One position that just a lot of them in there.
Speaker 1: Because there's like think about college offenses now there's like
Speaker 1: they're full of receivers, so everyone's going to have a
Speaker 1: couple and it's crazy. So this year I thought would
Speaker 1: be a good idea, like just talking about the Bills
Speaker 1: real quick, anybody that they could draft at the end
Speaker 1: of the first round that you like, and then we
Speaker 1: can talk about some later round receivers, maybe for Washington potentially.
Speaker 4: Key and Coleman looked like he had a Beal's jersey
Speaker 4: own three years ago.
Speaker 1: So what do you say that, because I don't really
Speaker 1: When I think Beal's received was I think be cold weather,
Speaker 1: uh hands, he did go to Michigan State.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the fastest guys, but tough like my boy
Speaker 2: Eric Molds. Like Eric Mold could fly. But it's physique
Speaker 2: is what caught you. When I when I play against Buffalo,
Speaker 2: it was it was Lee Evans. It was like dudes
Speaker 2: with some speed and some size, so I could see
Speaker 2: him going while receiving the first round and Whire receiving
Speaker 2: in the second round, just because it's so deep. So
Speaker 2: when I see Key on cod and I think it's
Speaker 2: a little too high for h for Johnny wi Wilson
Speaker 2: from from uh Tolorida State, but I could see them
Speaker 2: taking him in the third like them taking a big
Speaker 2: guy in the speed guy. Like you know, I just
Speaker 2: see so many mixtures. Uh A d from Texas gonna
Speaker 2: say you got to do from Church?
Speaker 1: Are you trying to replace stuff on Diggs? That type
Speaker 1: of player to get?
Speaker 5: So I think when you look at their their their
Speaker 5: roster right now, they have a couple of capable guys.
Speaker 3: You know, Sam Sami's on the roster.
Speaker 5: You know, you have some other guys that's probably not
Speaker 5: proven telling them, but they obviously been in the league
Speaker 5: long enough to be you know, have some eyes and
Speaker 5: and got.
Speaker 3: Some stuff on film.
Speaker 5: But I think it's hard to try to go and
Speaker 5: get the same guy because they didn't know they was
Speaker 5: gonna get a Digs, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like Dix, it just wasn't that to me.
Speaker 5: I look at it like this, when you have a
Speaker 5: chance to get talent. It doesn't matter how much he
Speaker 5: looks like the last piece that was here. You see
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Talent, You want talent. So it's a
Speaker 5: bunch of guys sitting there. Yeah, you could go. You
Speaker 5: could pick your poison. Really, you know, it's so many
Speaker 5: guys like to see. You got Brian Thomas or what
Speaker 5: his name is. He'll be gone by then. But what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, he's around that down here, down that he's
Speaker 5: he's down.
Speaker 4: But he's the perfect match for him.
Speaker 3: You got Ryan Thomas Rome probably gone too. But it's
Speaker 3: so many guys. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You talking about key On, Yeah, I would like I
Speaker 5: would probably think that he would be one of those
Speaker 5: guys that would move up, like we talked about last week,
Speaker 5: from the second round. If he falls the second round.
Speaker 5: I think he's one of those talents too that somebody
Speaker 5: gonna say, nonah, we want that.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. He had the size there
Speaker 3: and he had the ability.
Speaker 2: So I think if they can go double Xavier, if
Speaker 2: they want to Xavier worthy in the first and then.
Speaker 4: Get in the.
Speaker 2: Second, and I think them are two legit starters, then
Speaker 2: they got the They got the money now to add
Speaker 2: ob j Right and Sea.
Speaker 3: So now they got Curtis already.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got Curtis.
Speaker 3: They go your wide receiving core right now, you don't
Speaker 3: need you got Curtis.
Speaker 1: And just some names to kind of throw out that
Speaker 1: I think will be there when they're picking. It's like
Speaker 1: Mitchell is probably the number one guy, Lad McCaughey, the
Speaker 1: guy from Georgia if you're worthy from Texas, the speedzer guy,
Speaker 1: Troy Franklin, no one's really talking about anymore because he
Speaker 1: had a rough combine but also a speeds for Keyon Coleman,
Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsaw maybe my favorite.
Speaker 2: Talking about Pearsaw because everybody talks glowingly about him, but
Speaker 2: then they won't blow him up. You see what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Like every time I talk, I hear somebody like, oh,
Speaker 2: like receiver.
Speaker 5: You didn't hear the stories that's going on about your
Speaker 5: boy from l as you saying he's a.
Speaker 3: What was they what what was reported about him? Last week?
Speaker 3: They said he had.
Speaker 5: Some some issues about big big markets, Like it was
Speaker 5: like keep a close eye on them. Yeah, And I
Speaker 5: watched a little podcast and they was like I think
Speaker 5: it was Jayden and Daniels like, hey man, they said you,
Speaker 5: they said you're going to have some some issues going.
Speaker 5: And he was just sitting there like, why me. I
Speaker 5: guess it is pick somebody. They had to pick me,
Speaker 5: But that's odd to me. It happens all the time.
Speaker 3: Let's tell you what happened to me. Lead your draft lead.
Speaker 5: People want to joe that dream to their draft that
Speaker 5: it's a team of two that'll put out false narrative.
Speaker 3: They want they want you because they want you to
Speaker 3: drop for them.
Speaker 5: Like my false narrative was it was never a receiver
Speaker 5: under five to ten picked in the top top, you know,
Speaker 5: first round, because it was said to me when I
Speaker 5: was coming out that from just what I did por
Speaker 5: as pro day wise and my play for four years,
Speaker 5: I could be the first receiver taking in my draft class.
Speaker 5: But I wasn't six feet so they wasn't gonna take me.
Speaker 5: No one was gonna take me first, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So the Dolphins didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah we know who they took like four guys in
Speaker 5: front of me, Yeah, three guys from me rather, but
Speaker 5: the Dolphins put that out because they wanted me to
Speaker 5: fall to twenty eight thirty something and then they put
Speaker 5: it small print in the back of the paper. They
Speaker 5: put it front page talking about me, and then when
Speaker 5: we corrected them, like, you know, challenge nothing about it,
Speaker 5: they put a oh we sorry, that was someone wrote
Speaker 5: that in the back page. So like it's crazy how
Speaker 5: they do it. And I saw the thing about neighbors,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, this happens every year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's important to remember with the
Speaker 1: draft stuff and we'll talk about Ricky pearsall in a second,
Speaker 1: is that these are all most of this information that
Speaker 1: they're getting is like media people's opinions, and then it's
Speaker 1: what the team wants to get out. So around the building,
Speaker 1: and I've got friends on different teams and I talked
Speaker 1: draft stuff with them pretty much all year around, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, about a month and a half
Speaker 1: out from draft time, Yeah, it just goes radio silent
Speaker 1: and can't get those dudes on the phone. So if that,
Speaker 1: if that's leaking, a team is definitely leaked. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: again I think it's also important to remember, like I
Speaker 1: find this all the time when I'm reading other people's evaluations,
Speaker 1: that fans value different things in the NFL. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying so like when they look at Ricky
Speaker 1: pierceon like, oh, he's like a six to one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety five pound white dude, but like his short
Speaker 1: air quickness is insane, his ability to stem routes is insane,
Speaker 1: his contested catch ability is insane. So I can see
Speaker 1: a team and like the student's right, I want yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: rams receiving, Yeah, and a guy that's gonna be cool,
Speaker 1: yesundred percent. And so he's a guy. So again obviously
Speaker 1: for the bill's lots of receivers for the commanders, though,
Speaker 1: I think the point still drives home like Ricky Piersaw
Speaker 1: was the last guy read, Xavier Leget would still be
Speaker 1: on the board probably at forty. But again you could
Speaker 1: fall down a little bit.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Malachi Cordley dog I.
Speaker 4: Love Melica is a running back. Have you watched his female.
Speaker 3: Yeah, guy, he's rock.
Speaker 1: I watched.
Speaker 4: I know I'm talking like I know you hail.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we know you watched the probably Melica. You probably
Speaker 5: saw what kind of song he put.
Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying, well, you shocked. But he was
Speaker 2: manhandling like DB's and linebackers.
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't really I think like The thing is
Speaker 1: because everyone had told me beforehand. It was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's a dog he's so he turned on You're like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't say like he because he is.
Speaker 1: He's fairly than seeing him at the Senior Bowl. He's
Speaker 1: just like this kind of yoked up pit, cool kind
Speaker 1: of guy and dangerous upon Dvonte's Walker from uh Carro Like,
Speaker 1: Carolina might not catch football, but he is fast as
Speaker 1: all out. I need him to catch.
Speaker 4: Don't Carolina with the guy don't catch.
Speaker 1: The ball, you can run though. Jill and Polk from
Speaker 1: what you have another dog man?
Speaker 5: You've watched him, Yeah, he was. I like both of
Speaker 5: those guys. I watched him in that bowl game. That
Speaker 5: was the first time. You know, he kind of flashed.
Speaker 5: I mean, but like that's what I say too, And
Speaker 5: it's crazy and I don't want to be long on this.
Speaker 5: They kind of discredit quarterbacks when they have good receivers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what what what matters is if if he's
Speaker 3: good and I'm good, it all worked working? What the
Speaker 3: hell you mean? At the Ken Dorsey he wasn't the
Speaker 3: best guy.
Speaker 5: Like like, oh, yeah, he had Tana, he had Tanner, Reggie,
Speaker 5: Wayne and Andre Johnson.
Speaker 3: That's what he threw to in two years. So what.
Speaker 1: That's like an All Star?
Speaker 5: But it's crazy, man, Like I was hearing how he
Speaker 5: was talking about Pinnis talking about, well he had roam
Speaker 5: and this guy and the one guy that look man,
Speaker 5: y'all trying to lord his man status because of these injuries.
Speaker 3: The dude precision and in these passes is like Pennick
Speaker 3: unheard of. He hats putting shot, but he is.
Speaker 4: He is skinny to me, like they The.
Speaker 1: Thing about him that gets me is his footwork is
Speaker 1: a little off sometimes but and he just relies all
Speaker 1: on his arm and he can absolutely rip it.
Speaker 5: He can throw his arm is like a I can't
Speaker 5: say Patrick Mahons, but you know how Pat Mahons don't
Speaker 5: need to have.
Speaker 3: His body, yeah, said, he still get the ball.
Speaker 5: That's how I see Pennings that he's making throws where
Speaker 5: the body is not set is sometimes bounds, and he's
Speaker 5: still putting it on the dime, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So who knows absolutely? And so then we got okay,
Speaker 1: like how many receivers he run off? Probably fifteen? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's more, there's more there. Jermaine Burton probably the
Speaker 1: first round pick if he doesn't get in trouble. Jayleen
Speaker 1: McMillan from udub Ye so super sick.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a big guy. Yeah, very good. Jean Baker
Speaker 1: probably the best route runner in the class. He's six
Speaker 1: one ten, Another bigger body guy, Malik Washington from Virginia, Virginia. Yeah, Tanna,
Speaker 1: this dude has feet for days.
Speaker 3: I would say you a breakdance, ain't he?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a breakdancer. Brendan Rice, I mean, Jerry Son,
Speaker 1: he's signing a goat.
Speaker 5: He looks like a I won't I won't mind having
Speaker 5: Jay Rice in the late rounds.
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, step is finest.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just reading these names. These are all guys. Like,
Speaker 1: there's still five or six more guys. I sall third round. Great,
Speaker 1: So you still ain't saying Wilson He's the next one.
Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson, Jamari Thrash, Luke McCaffrey, Jacob Cowing. Other small guy,
Speaker 1: Cornelius Johnson, a big old dude from Michigan. Like they're
Speaker 1: so point of this right off?
Speaker 3: About twenty five pairents.
Speaker 5: Stop making your son go to wide receiver cas Too
Speaker 5: many receivers in the drafts.
Speaker 4: All the guy that used to play running back and
Speaker 4: they like.
Speaker 1: No dB even get paid. Yeah, I'm got Fletcher's son.
Speaker 1: That's right, he's thank you, Jason. He's he's like built
Speaker 1: like a running back. Yeah, but he's playing slot receiver.
Speaker 3: Yeah, fletch me up.
Speaker 5: You know they're gonna get My son is like you Tennant.
Speaker 5: I'm watching him run routes and I'm like, damn, it's
Speaker 5: like Tann. I'm watching ten in all the years and
Speaker 5: I coult on his film like no, no.
Speaker 3: He can hear.
Speaker 5: I'm like, fletch spot on, like from from this just
Speaker 5: how cat quick he is and how he runs his
Speaker 5: routes and how he's aggressively going out to the balls.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, let you hit that on the head.
Speaker 1: So all those guys you just right off, which is
Speaker 1: a lot of them. I'm sorry for those at home.
Speaker 1: Anybody those guys you're like, we want that guy here, anybody.
Speaker 3: Yep, Xavier leg it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if we could get him in the second round,
Speaker 5: if he's around at that first second round pick, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna call me on the go on the stage. I'm
Speaker 5: going on the stage and say his name I don't
Speaker 5: did it. I did it what years ago?
Speaker 1: I do it again?
Speaker 4: Time for you to do it.
Speaker 6: Represent the three times Super Bowl chap America's real team.
Speaker 6: You understand me, Jerry, get out of here, just like
Speaker 6: you're cutting a problem with the thirty third pick.
Speaker 3: So you're gonna be like Buddy who wanted him eighty
Speaker 3: eight for the cop pig that you know he went
Speaker 3: on there and talk some.
Speaker 1: Crap boy anybody you're you're saying, we gotta I.
Speaker 4: Like to get even though I feel about again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's gonna be He's like going so high.
Speaker 1: I give me another name, lower, lower down, Johnny. I'm
Speaker 1: keep saying, Johnny will Johnny Wilson.
Speaker 3: He won't make it. To say that one Johnny wilt
Speaker 3: probably you don't think.
Speaker 1: I think he'll make it the second round, but I
Speaker 1: think the team will probably prioritize like a tackle or
Speaker 1: a head dresser. We only four peaks behind it, I know,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like it depends on the board,
Speaker 1: like they might have to look at really.
Speaker 5: The best player for that for that time. You know
Speaker 5: the safe message you need to tackle? Yeah, and you
Speaker 5: that receiver there, you think that's.
Speaker 1: What I think I think the tackles are all going
Speaker 1: to go really early. There's probably ten guys, like starting
Speaker 1: caliber guys. They're gonna go super early. So if you
Speaker 1: don't get one of thirty six or forty, you ain't
Speaker 1: get him pretty slim. Yeah, and we just read off,
Speaker 1: I mean twenty receivers, and I would be stoked if
Speaker 1: any one of them came here. Yeah, So for me,
Speaker 1: it's like Crowley, Yeah, Xavierly gets awesome. If Johnny Wilson
Speaker 1: came here, that'd be awesome, just to see how that work.
Speaker 3: Taking it. Were picking up free agencyceivers right now too.
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, bring the rights out,
Speaker 2: you know, because I didn't know he was truly six three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we need.
Speaker 3: We need it, like I don't change your body.
Speaker 2: I don't want the more sports cars in here unless
Speaker 2: they fought three sports cars. But I need I need
Speaker 2: an s u V. You understanding, I need to pick
Speaker 2: up truck. I need a big receiver with a big
Speaker 2: catch rate. Is that catches bad passes like he got
Speaker 2: a different between a short Defending a short receiver and defending.
Speaker 3: The Plexico birds.
Speaker 2: Plex don't need the ball to be thrown in track
Speaker 2: to him, he gonna crack that bad ball.
Speaker 5: I ain't when to cut you off. But I heard
Speaker 5: this on a I was riding somewhere. I think it
Speaker 5: was we missed them show this weekend on Friday. I
Speaker 5: think it was Friday. I don't know what that was,
Speaker 5: but it was talking about who was the last big
Speaker 5: receiver and they missed it because I'm like, wow, no
Speaker 5: one said the guy name it was Dotson.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, everybody forgets about Dodson.
Speaker 4: Dodson. Dodson was how big he was six three?
Speaker 3: He was six three, big dude, Big dude, Dawson.
Speaker 5: We have nine Dotson, Like I know thember I remember
Speaker 5: the one who they were.
Speaker 3: They basically ran up out of here.
Speaker 4: I know, because the one thing I did like about
Speaker 4: dots But I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying time, but he was the last big receiving live
Speaker 3: far in the draft.
Speaker 1: Every pay us but also to me, like Pierre was
Speaker 1: a big receiver though.
Speaker 3: You tlus, but I got it.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. It's like, yeah, we think
Speaker 1: we need a big ride receiver here. If you need
Speaker 1: a big receiver, you got it. You need a small receiver,
Speaker 1: you got it. When a guy runs a four to three.
Speaker 1: You got it. And it's going to be throughout the draft.
Speaker 1: And so you know, this all came about because the
Speaker 1: receiver market conversation. I think this is going to definitely
Speaker 1: negatively affect the receiver market moving forward to every receiver
Speaker 1: class is saturated like this looking for you.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Like it's going to have guys.
Speaker 5: When I say, the guys who are worthy, stay worthy
Speaker 5: because these young guys coming in for your spot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Absolutely so I think that's going to do it for
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