WEBVTT - Stefon Diggs Trade, WR Market Value, Depth in the Draft | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:07.880 In today's episode the Command Center Podcast, it's happy birthday 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:12.560 to us, right, Oh yeah, you Michael Jackson out here, 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:15.120 all right. We talked about the Stefan Diggs traded to 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:18.560 the Texans and is that Deshaun watching trade the worst 0:00:18.560 --> 0:00:21.040 trade ever? It's stay tuned to find out, and what 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:22.639 are the Bills going to do a wide receiver? And 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:24.880 are there receivers that we like in the draft in 0:00:24.960 --> 0:00:32.279 later rounds? It all starts right out. Welcome on into 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.680 the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:40.559 Swood and Santana mosaying guys, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Happy birthday, 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:44.040 Happy birthday to this podcast. It's been one year since 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:46.040 we've done it, and I don't know, man, it's just 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:48.479 like it doesn't It did fly by, And this is 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:49.800 one of the funnest shows we do because we just 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:51.360 sit here and talked the whole time. But I thought 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:52.880 it'd be a good idea just to kind of say, hey, 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:55.880 what are your favorite memories from the last year doing 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:57.840 this show? All the ups, all the all the downs. 0:00:57.960 --> 0:00:59.760 You know, boy bands on you the last as long. 0:00:59.800 --> 0:01:02.480 Let's usually me as Timberlake. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:03.959 I usually leave at this time. 0:01:04.000 --> 0:01:07.240 You're just timulating what. 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:13.679 You know, timulate? Why can I keep too? 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.800 I guess, yeah, it's true. You gotta move on to 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.400 make more money. So yeah, so so for me, my 0:01:21.440 --> 0:01:24.360 best memory this year was beating friend and basketball, just 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.040 the build up, the set up, the lack of conditioning, 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:28.280 the whole thing. 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.640 I was in no shape. But guess what when you 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:31.480 beat me that day? 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.199 One abb has started to show up each month after that, 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.240 I purchased a bike, like you changed my life that 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:41.360 you know, I was just drifting for a while. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:46.560 I still care about waiting to see that bike too. Picture. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:48.880 I didn't give them one of the little they say 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.760 real bikers don't do that riding. 0:01:51.840 --> 0:01:54.160 I love saying that. Did they humble me? 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:58.600 And plus I don't see how he was so rough, dude. 0:01:58.840 --> 0:02:03.000 Like sometimes people don't know how scrown you are man, 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.960 because listen, you was literally bagging me down and. 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.919 I was like this, I can't stop him from moving. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.400 I was impressed for how long your arms were quite honestly, 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.040 like I felt very strong, but like I was like, damn, 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:15.280 Fred's arms are really long. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:17.680 Reach That was always mine eyes, man, And you don't. 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:19.040 Remember your measurement, do you know it? 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:19.600 Was very long. 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:21.919 It'd be cool if you could get that up somewhere 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:22.480 figure out. 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.799 I think my fun is memory just to shed a 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:30.600 little light on the bake offs. Man, when you know, 0:02:30.760 --> 0:02:32.200 I gotta give it to Zach when you put all 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:32.960 that white stuff on. 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:33.359 The dame. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:35.520 Kind of like you know what? 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.720 Made that was pretty funny? 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.560 I was. I didn't really mean to come up to 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.799 him like yeah, but I'm like, why would he do that? Bro? 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:45.320 You over doing it? 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:48.760 He got reached in his pocket and pull out. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:58.000 Of Touchtros And we all love Zach on the show. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.959 But the one thing Zach will do is he will 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.560 like even the cookies he made. He won the cookies, 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:04.960 but they had like full chocolate bars in that Like 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:06.480 I was like, come on, man, just make. 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.799 Its at home and said, you know what, how could 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:09.360 I want to. 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:11.079 Did? 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:15.000 He constantly overthinks things. But what I'm really waiting on 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.280 for the future is the bowling. 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:18.440 The bowling. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:19.760 We haven't done it yet. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.480 Now we didn't need some charity bowling, but we haven't 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:27.200 done the bowling yet. I cannot waiting and shout at them, well, it's. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.280 Crazy to me because I don't think anyone disputed that 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:31.080 you were like a good bowler at any point, and 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:32.959 you were just like we're bowling, Like I got to 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:34.519 show you that I'm better than you are bowling. And 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:36.480 I was like, all right, well. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.680 He's like you know, he's over right now. Yeah. He 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:40.440 didn't even win it. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.960 Down, I didn't. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.760 They told, didn't they vote? He didn't beat me in 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:48.720 the field goal kicking. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.840 Yeah, it was sheer power wooking. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.320 It was sher power. But also I think the funny 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.160 thing about that Fred is like you came in. People 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.640 don't know this little little peel behind the veil here is. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.560 We came in the office and and Jason was telling 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:00.840 me that. They were like, O, can you kick a 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.720 field goal? You're like thirty five yarder? And then it 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:05.120 was like then it turned into a competition because you 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.200 were so confident that you could do it. So I actually, honestly, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.840 when Jason was like, come kick a field goal, I 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:11.960 was like I was kind of nervous, yeah, because I 0:04:12.000 --> 0:04:14.240 was like, man, maybe Fred can actually kick field goals yea. 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:16.000 And so we got out there, we had to kick 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:18.680 that fifteen yarder start and it was just like Shank, 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.240 I was like, all right, I got this one. Got 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:21.760 it in the bag. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.680 It's hard to kick a field goal, no doubt. Like 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:26.520 people sit there. I know. I don't know why you 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.080 didn't know that people sit there and like turn a 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:30.960 TV on? Is that right? 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:31.400 Finkle? 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.880 Now I'm telling you kicking a field I can only 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:37.479 matter how it feels with one hundred thousand people in 0:04:37.520 --> 0:04:39.000 the stadium and that pressure. 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.560 We think that's the easiest position on our team or 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.239 on the field, and it's it's. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:46.839 By far one of the most toughest. 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:49.800 I'm talking about specially, it's thinking about the mental part 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:51.480 of it, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, think about 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.159 you mentally getting focused and saying, you know, this drive 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.320 has been an end with my foot. 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:57.200 One way or another. 0:04:57.279 --> 0:04:59.680 You's either going to be a field goal or extra point. 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.960 And agree that what is the what is the pseudo 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.440 easiest position in football? And we had to pick one 0:05:08.480 --> 0:05:10.440 to say, you know what they job is easy, But 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:11.320 I say it's a pawner. 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.920 Even those guys ain't kicking a sod. 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.719 You had to punt to win in the game, I've seen. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.320 I got a funny story. So we were because we 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:23.440 were in Chicago, was freezing, like you're saying, it was 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.279 really cold. We were up by We're up by a 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:29.760 touch by two, so we needed to punt get him down. 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:31.760 There was like seven seconds left. There was like no 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.080 time left at all. Andre Roberts, So I forget who 0:05:34.160 --> 0:05:36.560 was playing for at the time. Yeah, we got out 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:38.480 there in pun formation. They came out in pump block formation, 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.159 so they brought our gunners in and I was like, dude, 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:42.880 they're about to run this thing back. I knew it 0:05:42.920 --> 0:05:44.919 in my mind because I was like, I was like, 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.360 I can't cover kick to save my life, and I'm 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.520 out why am I here? I'm out here. They're about 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.960 to block our two best cover guys. And so we 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:53.600 got down there and I'm the first one down there, 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.320 and I'm like you, I was like this touchdown, touchdown. 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:58.040 I know it. 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:00.240 I know if I'm the first one down here, everyone 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.720 else is getting their face blocked off and they're about 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.640 to go over and score touchdown. We lost game on them. 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.279 Wow, Well it happened so few in between. 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.240 Also, dude, I got a funny story. So I remember 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.840 one of my other big claims to fame historically. Remember 0:06:11.839 --> 0:06:15.720 when Devin Hester was like rolling through and I think 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:17.400 he was about to break the record. This is twenty 0:06:17.440 --> 0:06:19.240 thirteen ten and we were really bad on special teams, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:21.960 and I remember we were out there playing the Bears 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.600 and I was like, and it was like if he 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.560 if he runs this one back, he'll break the record. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.440 And so I remember I got kind of hummed up. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.440 And then Niles missed the tackle and then he's running 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:31.520 wide the feel and I'm like, oh, and that. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.560 Was probably the slowest we turn watch. He's not even 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.120 running there. Well, we can't gets it. 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:37.560 And I was like, I'm gonna get him. And I 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:39.280 came over there around the corner and there's four or 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:40.800 five dudes right in front of him, and I was like, 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:45.200 I am gonna save the touchdown tackle. I'm gonna be 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.159 on Sports Center. And right when that thought entered and 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.560 exited my mind, somebody came out of nobody to even see, 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:55.640 and dear leeted me. So I made Sports Center, but 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.240 not for the way that I was gonna make it. 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.640 Hey, I had John Howe you remember him, He used 0:06:59.680 --> 0:07:01.560 to be your kick it. Then we turned to the 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.400 Jet Skins for the year. 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:04.640 Yeah, we brought it. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.520 We brought it like twenty four JITs. My boy Randy 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:10.560 tummins All of them. So Joe Howard the only kick 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:14.000 I know that just constantly stay hurt, like I didn't know. 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:17.000 Why we play in the game. He pulled a hamscreak. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:21.800 Oh so now Derek Froust. 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:24.040 Punter has to kick. They can't kick people sleep on 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:27.120 that has has to kick field goals, miss every one 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:27.400 of them. 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:31.040 It's the point like, oh, I was like, you know what, 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:32.960 I didn't really think because I was. 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.040 Like, if you can kick, you can kick. 0:07:34.120 --> 0:07:34.760 Yeah, it's different. 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:36.400 No, it's totally different. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:41.000 One is literally positioned then, but the easiest, the easiest, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:42.760 easy backup quarterback. 0:07:42.800 --> 0:07:43.840 No, because they don't play. 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:47.320 Let's go with playing position position from thinking. 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.520 I don't think no, I'm easy, but from none, I'm easy. 0:07:49.520 --> 0:07:51.600 But the degrees are harder. 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:55.040 We have to say from a mental standpoint, yeah, defensive 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:56.880 end has to be the easiest one because it's literally 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.000 just like, this is your gap, Go get the quarterback. 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:00.760 And I know that I couldn't do it because you 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.560 need to be tremendously athletic. All the biggest freaks in 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.760 the NFL do that. Yeah, but that's gotta be mentally 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:07.160 one of these. 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:09.920 You say, that's a position more instinct than thinking, Oh, 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:10.440 I think. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.160 So I gotta be because you can set the edge 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:14.960 all day. You ain't getting no second. I'm gonna set 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.840 the d even I gotta say. I'm gonna make sure 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:18.720 you know what I'm he was. 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.880 He was a beast at that though. I remember blocking him. 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:24.560 In Elizabeth. 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.120 Shuttle Fields. 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.640 I wrote, you know what, somebody left like that. But 0:08:30.840 --> 0:08:31.520 it's some true. 0:08:33.200 --> 0:08:35.480 Played no defense yet. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.520 But he also was one of the biggest human beings wrongest. 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.600 I remember the first time bench the house, swat the house. 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.520 I remember the first time he came through the door. Yeah, 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:47.560 I was like, I shouldn't be in the NFL. Like 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.040 that's how big he was. Always felt like you should 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:52.280 be attack on his recovery day, do you remember this, 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:54.240 He's coming on the off day. So Monday after the 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.920 game he would deadlift six eighty, or he's deadlift seven 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.000 to ten, squat six eighty, bench five hundred. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:04.040 That was his off dad, And when he won bench 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:08.080 of five hundred, snitching on the t keep me real, 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:09.720 Shulgar Fells. 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.360 Tell them out of time, don't you worrybody getting to 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:13.040 the quarterback? 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.440 What true everybody is if they throw their screen to 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:17.120 be right. 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.520 There, right the way. 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.040 So it allows me to play a limit free because 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.280 Drake don't give me my pass rush, Grill don't give 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.599 me my pass rush from the middle, and Marcus Washington. 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:29.000 And Levarna add to the pass rush. But you got 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.720 to know your players to know who's gonna bring what. 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.640 Philip dans Man, I just be saying then back then 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:35.480 this windmill and trying to get around. 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.600 I'm like, damn be too mean to be sitting up 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:38.640 there playing Patty kick no. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.280 And that's why I always felt like, especially on passes down, 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:43.640 like they should move him inside. 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.480 Because I felt like, now, like a lot of times 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:46.440 you gotta think. 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.320 Well, now you're speaking of that, speaking. 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.400 Of that, we played a lot of guys out of place, 0:09:50.520 --> 0:09:51.040 like we had. 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:53.360 We had defenses that didn't fit the guys we had, 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.280 so that probably could have been one of the things 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:56.800 that he was just too big to see him not 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.400 be able to like Domin because he dominated earlier in 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:00.439 his career, you know what I mean. 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.760 So it's full back the easiest busise. 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:06.320 Hell, No, have you played fullback before, dude? Full Back? 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.400 Fullback is like a come to Jesus moment. Imagine every play, 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.960 every hit being the hardest that you've ever taken. Like 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:15.320 that's what fullback is, and so it might be mentally 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.240 very easy, but you have to be a little messed 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:19.880 up by so you an m M A fight if 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.480 you see ful dude, Yeah, dude, I remember there was 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:23.760 I think I told you this stuff. I told you 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:24.240 serve before. 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:25.079 Yeah, Harry Mars. 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:27.280 So when I was in San fran there was a 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.360 rash of people in goal line situations on lead, which 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:33.319 is a great goal line run of fullbacks getting knocked unconscious. 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.960 So Kyle, you check, got not knocked unconscious. So I 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:38.800 was like, oh, that's too bad. He's a really good 0:10:38.800 --> 0:10:41.360 football player, the mismatch guy for us. They're like, who 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.480 can we put it full back that we don't care 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.280 if they get knocked on conscious And I'm not kidding. 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.560 Kyle was like this at the meeting and he just 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:50.520 was like and I was like, now looking at him, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:52.320 I was like looking over here, and then I was 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.160 like he was like, look, you want to do it? 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:56.319 And I was like, all right, I guess I'll do 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.839 it whenever to keep his uniform, and then Mike Coach 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.199 to the meeting says, if they call lead, I'm you're 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.199 like you're You're like, my son, just fall down, don't 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:09.200 do it, Just fall down. Make me call different the game. 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.240 He's like, just fall on the ground. And I was 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:14.079 like what And he was like, I'm not going to 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:15.960 give you a minus. I'll say it was my fault. 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:18.240 Just fault. I don't want you getting hurt and like that. 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:21.559 For to be a fullback in the NFL, yeah, like 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.800 you have to do. Or just Dent. Who's that guy 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:29.040 for the Detroit Lions, Mike Schleareth or whatever, Mike Slitch, Yeah, 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:31.079 whatever his name was, he would Dent. I heard this 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.640 from the equipment guy there. Yeah, with Dent. Five face 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:38.120 masks unusable every game. Could you imagine hitting someone with 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:38.680 your face? 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:43.480 Could you imagine me hidden? I was a tack. It's 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:45.600 a different between a hitter and attack. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.240 Cory Slessinger that was the name. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:48.080 Man. 0:11:48.760 --> 0:11:51.200 Yeah, football just a tough, tough sport. Man. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.480 I don't care who you are when it comes to it. Man, 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:56.080 it's no position. I don't think that's just easy. I 0:11:56.080 --> 0:12:02.160 mean even mentally, a physical receiver's pretty easy. 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:04.520 I'm just getting over. 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:10.719 Some of the stress I had, so best memories those 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:12.400 are good, Okay, So I think the next thing is 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.720 what do we want to do next? Right? I think 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:16.360 there were some talking about us doing a live show. 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.240 I don't know when people come, wait, leave a comment, 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.160 did you come and watch us do this live? We're 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.959 just sitting around with microphones and makes fun of it. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.440 I said, we was at the casino at the sports park, 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.160 at the sports team, and yeah, they'll come live. 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.600 And let them know when we go live. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.400 It'd be nice to have a guess with us because 0:12:33.400 --> 0:12:36.160 that's what normally gets them even more and. 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.599 They can go questions, they can as us whatever they want. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.200 Live is what is that? I did once? 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:43.720 You know, I had my own individual podcast back in 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.160 twenty and seventeen eighteen and we did it live, not 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.120 we didn't know what we was doing and we just 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:51.640 did it roight hered one louder and people showed up 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.720 at mess box. There was a lot of folks and 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.160 then most of them showed up. Yeah, so you came 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.920 up and be Mitch. Everybody came. So you know, live 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:00.880 is where is that? And then have to have the 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:03.640 kind of following that we have in this short span 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:05.680 of time, just to say, hey, we reached that. 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.440 Marcus a whole year now had we had that year date. 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:10.920 I know these fans would want to show up if 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:12.600 somebody want to see you in person, are. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:14.440 I know for a fact they want to tell you 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:15.360 how bad you treat. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.560 Yeah, young lady want to see you at first, Like 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.440 while you're picking on Fred all you probably don't have 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:21.000 a shirt made. 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.080 Well, glad you said shirts, because we could also make 0:13:24.120 --> 0:13:26.400 shirts say like make a merch, don't pick on Fred, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:28.839 don't pick on Fred, or like that hawk outside. I'm 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:31.120 better saying it that was pretty good. That was pretty good, 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:32.920 and then maybe a picture with Fred's face on it. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:34.200 I don't know what do you think? 0:13:34.920 --> 0:13:36.960 Whatever you needn't quote, but quote me. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:40.000 You have to say kind of merch, talking about bracelets, 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.480 whatever you want to come out with these days. 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.120 And if you've ever been to a live event with Fredd, 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:45.120 you should definitely remember the first live event I ever 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:46.719 did with Fred. Like we were sitting there with me 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.600 and Brayon. We were just hanging out with a small group, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.080 and all of a sudden, in the middle of Fred 0:13:50.160 --> 0:13:52.440 just gets up and starts walking through the crowd, and 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.600 I was like, I've never seen anybody do that at 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.400 a live event. Like it was unprompted. The person's like no, 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.600 you can sit down, and he's like no, I got 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.480 you and just up and start asking fans questions. I 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:03.520 was like, this man is. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:06.240 Out out there, was at the state House the other day. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.880 I'm texting Fred anywhere yet man pull up. Fred came 0:14:09.920 --> 0:14:12.360 in there and it went from being quiet to just. 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.040 Like everybody was like he was just getting ready for that. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:19.600 Hey Fred, he didn't win in it. I'm like, man, 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:22.240 not a du never a dumb moment with him. 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.000 So hey, somebody got to break a little light. 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:26.040 To a place and then you bring all the life 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:26.880 it possible. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:27.120 All right? 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:28.960 So now I was actually talking football. So there was 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.960 some big news this last week I guess was last week. Yep, 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:37.400 Stephan Jiggs Digs traded to the Houston Texans. Houston received 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.400 Stefan Diggs a sixth round pick and a fifth round pick, 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.040 and Buffalo receives a twenty twenty five second round pick 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:48.160 via Minnesota. So I don't know, it's just one of 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.480 those things that just I think a lot of fans 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:51.880 see that and I just want to get your guys 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:53.600 thoughts on it. Yeah, it seems like, oh they gave 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.320 him away and they did get him away, Yeah, they gave. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.840 But there's some context here, so let's talk about it. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:00.840 I mean, when you look at being a DVA that 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:04.680 he was, they felt like they felt like that later 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:06.440 part of the season last year, they was able to 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:08.880 be successful without them. And if you feel like he's 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:10.840 not going to be somebody that you want to see 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.240 in the future or going forward, you're going to probably 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.400 you know, be able to do something with whether it's 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.320 financially or even on the field, then you deal them. 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:23.160 We've seen this game has almost showed us how the 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:26.360 basketball players feel. You know, I've seen so many trades nowadays, 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.000 like especially in the middle of the season. I've never 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.440 seen anything like that what we went through last year 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.800 and some of these before that, Like my years a 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:36.120 player here, you rarely saw top notch guys get spaced 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:36.920 off the team season. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:38.920 Yeah, you never see that in the middle of the season. 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.680 So we getting to a point now where it's so 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:44.880 much talent and guys are being strategic when it comes 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.160 to how they map out things like if they have 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:48.640 a chance to go out there and get a Odell 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:50.880 Beckham to make them gives a Super Bowl run, We're 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:52.480 going to pull that trigger. If you got a chance 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:54.200 to go out here and get one though, get to 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.440 get a pass rushers that's going to benefit us next year, 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.160 We're gonna pull the trigger now. So we want to 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.440 have him go out here and finish this and get better, 0:16:01.480 --> 0:16:03.840 and then we can't afford him. So I've seen so 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.840 many different things, and this is like one of those cases. 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:07.880 Like you have a guy in Diggs still had an 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.960 incredible year last year in credible Tom. You know he's 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.320 a gifted receiver. Yeah, I think he brings a lot 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.800 with that, and it's not always good. Yeah, Buffalo, Like, 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:18.880 look man, you know we can get something for you, 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:20.120 We'll let you. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.040 Well, I don't realize something in life like. 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:32.880 Emotion emotionly instability. He just people that's not emotionally there stable. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.520 They don't they don't reach the pinnacle what they could be. 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:41.160 Like, even as much as good as step Fun Diggs is, 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.480 people are really talk about him lashing out, or they'll 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.640 really talk about him acting like a baby, him saying 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.160 this and saying this, And that's why people would rather 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:55.400 have a Santana Moss who just gonna do his job clock. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.400 In another day to get it done. But see we've 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:59.040 seen this story with. 0:16:58.720 --> 0:17:01.080 A let's say a B, like that's the prime when 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.480 you just said that, that's the prime example, because I 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:06.800 honestly believe that if AB could have kept a clean slate. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.800 Interesting to hear the top jaed, right. I mean it 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:11.320 was that was a that was a tall feat. But 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.520 I'm just saying like he was headed there, we was headed. 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:16.200 He was on that trajectory like he was unbelievable numbers 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.000 year after year after year after year, so couldn't. 0:17:18.680 --> 0:17:20.000 Get out his own way here on the head and 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:23.000 that emotion like because they want to say the people 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:23.679 that take up for me. 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.000 Like, no, he just loved the game. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:26.320 We all of us love the gain. 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:27.080 We don't. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.120 We don't last shout like that. You know better yet 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:31.639 we'll wait till we get in the locker room. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:32.560 It's a difference, though. 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:34.600 You got to understand something, and a lot of us 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.119 deal with this as players. And then there's players that 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:41.000 don't know how they emotionally, you know, gather theyself in 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:44.439 those moments. So prime example, when I went through the 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:47.359 little thing I went through my last year here, you 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:49.879 know how many guys reached out to me from different 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.080 other people like Hey, tell Twner he needs to do 0:17:52.119 --> 0:17:52.720 this in the meeting. 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:54.719 He need to say this. And I'm like, bro, to 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:56.000 be honest with you. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:58.239 Putting the bulls out on me more than what it 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.560 is right now, that's gonna help. That's ain't gonna help 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.080 me because obviously, if I was worthy of it, the 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:05.760 coach would have to be doing it, which I'm not 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.480 saying I wasn't, but he don't owe me anything. And 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.080 at the same time, all you guys in that locker room, 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.359 I'm still playing for you. I'm still here because of 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.200 you guys. So I don't want to make this team 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.440 have to carry me going in the media talking about 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:22.520 what is doing. You know what I'm saying, that's drama 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.600 that we don't need. And so I've always been a 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.040 guy and it's just before that. I'm a team player. 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.440 I'm a team player because I feel like that's the 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.400 only way you can win, especially on the team sport. 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.560 I can't win by myself. I can't do it myself. 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.679 I need a quarterback, I need the blockers, I need 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.320 the officer line, I need a running back. I need 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:39.080 everybody to be successful as a receiver. So that's the 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:41.440 same way as a team, you know, as an individual. 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.239 So a lot of these guys I watch it all 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.199 the time and they say, I've been hearing this def 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:47.119 thing about receiving it for a long time, which it 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:48.119 fit certain people. 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.320 Yeah, that''t me the damn ball do this, do that. 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.000 But when you put that bullz out on you and 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.199 then you're not ready for something happens. 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.280 Now they're gonna talk and today today's game. 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:02.040 Yea social media everybody's the biggest credit. Now you know 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:04.840 what I'm saying, So it comes out that much more negative. 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.520 So that's why I've always kept that kind of Look, 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.560 it's not about me, it's about what they want to do. 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.800 And as long as we wining doing this, yeah, let 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:12.840 me sit back and shut my mouth. 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:15.040 So when we look back five years from now, who 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:16.320 you think won is trade? 0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:18.120 Do you think is the Houston Texas? 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:19.240 How you think the Bills? 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.280 Because sometimes you know you can win by by losing 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.640 something to move forward, also in one side gaining something. 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:28.320 To move forward. 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:31.680 So in five years, who wins this this deal? 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:33.320 Well that I was about to say though too though, 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:34.959 like starting to cut you off to you, is that 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.440 even though Stefan Diggs has all kind of this emotional 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.760 baggage around him, right, and he kind of seems to 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:42.760 wear out his welcome in the world out in Minnesota, 0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:44.560 whereas out in Buffalo. There is a period of time 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.640 where he's a very productive player on this Texas team, 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:51.479 this Texans team, He's a true number one. And then 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.600 you add that to Tank Dell, Nico Collins, the tight 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.720 end Dalton Schultz, Like you've got some legitimate playmakers around 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:00.240 a young quarterback Joe Mixon, and so yeah, and I 0:20:00.240 --> 0:20:02.359 think this is an op quite frankly, an opportunity for 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:03.760 this team to kind of say, hey, we're ready to 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.560 make a playoff push because of what CJ. Shad can do. 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.040 So I know it kind of maybe feels like Buffalo's 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.919 winning and Houston's winning, But as of right now, it 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:13.520 seems like a good trade for both sides. And we 0:20:13.560 --> 0:20:15.600 won't know. But if let's say, for example, they get 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.040 into they get to the super Bowl, you know, like 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:20.560 hypothetically speaking, and then it's a win for Houston, I. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.520 Guess how lucky? How do you envy him in a way? 0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.960 His first quarterback was Kirk Cuzin, his second one was 0:20:27.040 --> 0:20:29.600 Josh Ally, and now he got CJ. Scrad Have you 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:32.199 had anybody on that level? You did have Kirk, but 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:34.360 it was a young Kirk. But it was a young Kirk. 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.240 I think, if you want to look at that level, 0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:40.520 see I look at quarterbacks differently. I liked the older quarterbacks, 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.280 the more seasoned quarterbacks. I feel like they they had 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:46.520 so much seasoning on that game to where they knew 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:47.840 where to put the ball out. They know how to 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.560 get college this chief. So that's why I love Todd Collins. 0:20:50.600 --> 0:20:52.480 That's why I love mcnaw when he came here for that, 0:20:52.600 --> 0:20:53.440 for that little short. 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:54.080 Bit of time we played. 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:56.840 That's why I say Mark Todays day, Vinnie Testa Verdi 0:20:56.880 --> 0:20:59.480 and Mark Runell is my favorite. I love Vinnie in 0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.440 New York. Chad was good too, but I had success 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:03.000 out the gate. 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.680 With Vinnie, you know what I'm saying. And here Mark, 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:07.200 we now like those guys. 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.320 When I look at today's game, I care less about 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:11.159 how young you are. 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:12.960 I just want to see you. You know football. 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:16.360 You know from looking at this this blank canvas right now. 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.439 When I when we line up in this formation, this 0:21:19.520 --> 0:21:21.159 is how they're gonna be able to stop it. 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:22.239 And where is read the hole? 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:24.080 Where the weakness, where the weakness is gonna be. So 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.080 those guys did that for me, you know what I mean? 0:21:26.119 --> 0:21:27.719 They made my game easy when I got to sit 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:29.679 out there and think, for you, are we in trouble? 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.440 And the Texans did disinteresting contract stuff here, and I 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:34.600 think this is interesting about like the receiver market. And 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:35.960 one thing before we get to the receiver market, I 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:37.480 want to bring this up. I think it's also interesting. 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:39.840 I think quarterback salary is going to play a big 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:41.800 role in this in this next conversation we're going to 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.480 have with regards to receiver market, and so I wanted 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.159 to just say, like, the Texans took three point five 0:21:47.200 --> 0:21:49.840 million dollars of guaranteed money and gave it to Diggs 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:51.960 for this next season. So he's going to be making 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:55.720 twenty two point five to two million dollars next year, 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.600 which is a lot of money. And so so to me, 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:01.720 what is this dude for the receiver market? And the 0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:03.480 thing I wanted to bring up is, I do think 0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:07.120 it's interesting that big time receivers seem to be moving 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.200 on from teams that have paid their quarterback a lot 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.840 of money. Now right, they have both, they gotta find 0:22:11.840 --> 0:22:14.640 ways to save money. So what does this trade mean, 0:22:14.640 --> 0:22:16.520 because obviously he's making a lot of money or over 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:18.520 one year, what does this mean for the receiver market 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:19.080 moving forward? 0:22:20.640 --> 0:22:22.119 Give me your intell for because I know I want 0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:23.360 to say something. 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:26.000 No, I think when it comes to the receiver market, 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:30.000 I think it's always affected by the draft, And because 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:34.000 this draft is loaded with receivers, you gonna see people 0:22:34.080 --> 0:22:36.720 less prone to play the other guy when I can 0:22:36.760 --> 0:22:40.480 get the same production from a guy that I could 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.680 have six years going forward. So I think the thing 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.120 about it is, and you said it, if my quarterback 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.480 makes two hundred and fifty million, my wide receiver can't 0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:50.320 make a hundred men ago like, it's. 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:51.080 Just may up to it. 0:22:51.280 --> 0:22:53.439 Now, if I got a young quarterback, how can I 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:57.000 protect him with a older receiver who's gonna draw double 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:59.200 coverage so he can throw backside. 0:22:58.680 --> 0:23:01.440 One on one and throw side tight end matchups. 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.200 So for as much as I paid his receiver, he's 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.160 actually worth it for the progression of my quarterbacks. 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:09.720 So he can get to. 0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:12.960 The position of a Josh Hallen that I don't need 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.000 a true number one wide receiver. 0:23:15.240 --> 0:23:16.159 I can get to the level of. 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.760 Pat Mahons where I don't need Tyreek Hill no more 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.800 because once we can't afford them too. I can turn 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:25.600 people into stars because my quarterback, they had the guy. 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.119 But guess what when Alex Smith was the quarterback and 0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.000 they still had Tyreek Hill and the rest of those 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:34.359 guys inserted Pat Mahons unstoppable offense. But he was still learning. 0:23:34.480 --> 0:23:36.560 He knew what the double team was. They won double 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.879 team and Kelsey at the time they was double team Tyree. 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:43.000 So I think that wide receiver unlocks the potential of 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:48.080 youth by also kind of getting ran away by the quarterback. 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:49.639 With all the potential that gets paid. 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.159 So the market is sky high for the guys that 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.399 have proven theirself, you see everybody. I mean, like I'm 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:58.080 looking at some of these numbers, guys who you know, 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:02.000 guys that's just putting up, you know, mediocre seasons, and 0:24:02.040 --> 0:24:05.360 they getting close to like what the top guys in 0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.320 my era was getting. You know, in my era when 0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:09.800 I first got my first deal here, you know, the 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:12.360 top receivers was making six million a year, and then 0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.520 it went up, you know, drastically from there. So by 0:24:14.520 --> 0:24:16.040 the time I was leaving, it was more like in 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:19.400 the twelve fifteen you're getting a guy who's a third 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.120 a third receiver making twelve now a year. 0:24:22.160 --> 0:24:22.920 You see what I'm saying. 0:24:23.040 --> 0:24:25.640 So if you look at it, it's great that they say, Okay, Stephan, 0:24:25.720 --> 0:24:27.760 we giving you this twenty something plus because you are 0:24:27.800 --> 0:24:29.120 a number one guy. 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:30.400 You know you're. 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:32.639 Bringing money here with you from your last deal, and 0:24:32.640 --> 0:24:34.439 we're going to go ahead and grant you this other stuff. 0:24:34.640 --> 0:24:37.879 But the thing that what does now what these teams 0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:40.160 are doing, it's about their books. It's all about the books. 0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.359 If my quarterback is here when it comes to in 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:46.320 my pocket, then I need to find a safe haven 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.000 with these guys that in the middle, you know. 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:48.240 What I mean. 0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:50.000 So now I'd rather go out and get some young talent. 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:51.199 Then I don't have to pay my I don't have 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:53.840 to pay them as much. I got you on my side, 0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.280 and I still got talent. I got some guys who's 0:24:56.320 --> 0:24:59.080 capable of coming here and being in Stephan Diggs much 0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:02.359 younger and going to have a higher ceiling because of 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.639 now they come into a game where the quarterback is 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:06.720 proven and he's already the money man, yep, where a 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:08.720 guy like Dick's going to what you just say, I 0:25:08.760 --> 0:25:10.439 mean you hit it on the head. He's going to 0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.439 Houston where the quarterback is on the ricked deal. Play 0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:14.600 is here, yeah. 0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:15.560 But money is here. Yeah. 0:25:15.800 --> 0:25:18.359 So I could bring that big money receiver in because 0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.480 by the time I pay him, he should be. 0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:22.520 Out the door. Yeah, we're not going to probably be 0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:23.359 paying him anybody. 0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.280 They shrunk that deal because not because of the quarterback. 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:27.680 They shrunk that deal to. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.399 One kind of dictate terms with him, but also Nico 0:25:31.480 --> 0:25:35.120 Collins coming up, So they didn't want to tie their 0:25:35.160 --> 0:25:37.399 hands and say, no, we can't even offer Nico because 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:39.720 we're playing the older guy. They said, now we're gonna 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.159 take that out of there. Wasn't that pay him, keep 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:46.239 him on a short least, but also have the ability. 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:47.440 To keep a guy like Nico Collin. 0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:50.359 Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. I think that's I 0:25:50.359 --> 0:25:52.399 think it's just such an interesting thing. And the receiver 0:25:52.480 --> 0:25:54.840 market for a while look like everyone was getting paid everyone, 0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:56.600 everyone was getting paid. Now it does seem like there 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.240 is a kind of top flight grill. It's going to 0:25:59.320 --> 0:26:02.200 get paid like the four or five, And if you're 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.320 not in that top like the top flight group, you're 0:26:04.359 --> 0:26:05.360 not going to get paid the same. 0:26:05.560 --> 0:26:09.160 You're still getting money crazy, you're a second tier. 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:10.560 That's what we just seen. 0:26:11.280 --> 0:26:14.600 Like we've seen last year, five wide receivers get the 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:16.800 same amount of money Terry A. J. 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:17.320 Brown. 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.560 It was like five of these guys. 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.600 And some of these guys kind of fight from leaning 0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:24.879 to oh I'm one A to some one B. 0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:27.720 But they still jumped up right there together. 0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:30.879 So that's telling you where the comfortable spot right now 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.600 for a receiver is probably like five years eighty million. 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:36.040 It's almost like that. 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.400 It's almost like two is when it. When it comes 0:26:38.440 --> 0:26:40.480 to this, you can't even you can't even fought to 0:26:40.520 --> 0:26:41.640 receive it for this being. 0:26:42.480 --> 0:26:44.000 Hitting the mark at the right time, you know what 0:26:44.000 --> 0:26:45.160 I mean, Like with with Kirk. 0:26:45.359 --> 0:26:47.360 Yeah, everybody got their painties in the bunch with Kirk, 0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.040 Why is he getting what they what they giving quarterbacks 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:53.760 of his stature, you know what I mean. He deserves 0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:56.120 the money because he's a first he's he's coming in 0:26:56.160 --> 0:26:56.960 to be number one. 0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:58.400 So you can't you can't. 0:26:58.520 --> 0:27:01.440 We can't worry about the man pocket because he's sitting 0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.440 in that position to receive that, you know what I mean. 0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.920 And it's odd because you see a guy coming off 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.520 of Achilles and You're like, wow, but we know Kirk 0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:09.760 from being a gun sling. 0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:13.480 Round of applow. Kirk cussing gets the gray. 0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.199 You know, one of my favorite movie boys in the 0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.639 hood when you begetting juice coming there store punching it. 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:22.000 I bet you every time Robert Griffin turning the TV 0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:29.800 on the punching the head like I can't believe it, dude. 0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.920 Keep and another little like fun little note here before 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:35.160 we get to our next topic, is that this Stefan 0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.240 Digg's trade is a result of the Deshaun Watson trade. 0:27:38.280 --> 0:27:41.200 And maybe about Kirk right, it's like it's like cannon 0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.040 fodder from that trade that they've like parceled out and 0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.880 subdivided and they've gotten here, and so is that maybe 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:48.760 like the worst trade of all time? But think about it, 0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:51.440 from that trade, they got a starting guard, Kean Greed. 0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:53.680 They got Damian Pierce, she's like of a football player. 0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:56.520 They got Will Anderson junior light pass rush. Yeah, they 0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:58.840 got Tank tel who's one of the best young receivers 0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.480 in the gamep on Diggs. And they haven't even picked 0:28:01.480 --> 0:28:02.520 in this year's draft. 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:03.920 And they still got No. One pick in his draft. 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:04.280 Damn. 0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:09.159 So I told you the only trade that stinks in 0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:14.359 weeks of this type foulness is that herschel Walker trade 0:28:14.760 --> 0:28:18.320 that started the dynasty for the Cowboys. They end up 0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:21.520 getting there watch I mean a Woodson. I think they 0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.520 end up getting Michael Irving out of that draft. I 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:26.200 think they got like six daughters. 0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.480 Coming to say the same year. I think they got 0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:32.080 like six daughters out of the draft. 0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.320 Why hersher went on the rust for like three and 0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:35.040 a half yard. 0:28:37.160 --> 0:28:38.680 It wasn't three and a half yards. 0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.440 He literally didn't get many yards and they traded him 0:28:41.440 --> 0:28:42.240 to die. 0:28:42.320 --> 0:28:45.400 But hershamalk Minnesota. Did you got in highlights? 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:46.360 He hey, I don't remember. 0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:49.120 But they're also I mean, so it's Cleveland's tough because 0:28:49.120 --> 0:28:51.880 they're they're in the they're like a playoff college. But 0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:54.240 when he's healthy, they're playing. Now he has been healthy, 0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:55.880 that's another conversation. I think. 0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:58.680 I think Joe he hasn't played to his potential. You know, 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:00.360 he hasn't looked like his old self. 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.440 And I don't look at it as if it's just 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.400 he can't play. I just feel like, man, it's hard 0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.040 to miss them years and come back and. 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:09.920 Those years, and I think it's mental with him, imagine this. 0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:13.320 A quarterback used to be in love by our whole city, and. 0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:14.640 Now you're kind of like a pariah. 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:15.760 That's what anybody else. 0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:19.880 I'm not gonna be the best me when I'm uncomfortable. 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.120 So I think that was the reason I give him 0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.760 a legit reason. I could see him not being himself 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:26.920 because he just doesn't feel like he don't feel the love. 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:29.800 And I think that they bothered something at the least. 0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.680 Some at the least don't need love. But a quarterback 0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:33.240 need love. 0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:39.200 We know you don't need. I hate everybody. 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.480 We got, we gotta gotta, we gotta call her. We 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:43.560 got Jason just. 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:45.680 Yeah, just the herschel Walker trade. 0:29:45.720 --> 0:29:47.440 They used some of the picks that they got in 0:29:47.480 --> 0:29:49.680 that trade to get Darren Woodson. 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:53.160 And it was EMMITTT. Smith Michael. 0:29:55.600 --> 0:29:57.360 Year before. I know it was eminent and I knew. 0:29:58.080 --> 0:29:59.640 I'm glad to fact check that. But the other thing 0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.520 talking Michael said is with the receiver market, because we 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.440 took a little side there in a kind of bad 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.240 trade philosophy, but in the importance of getting more picks, 0:30:07.240 --> 0:30:08.840 which is something we talk about in the draft all 0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.560 the time. The Antenna mention this briefly and I think 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:15.920 it's really important is there are so many good receivers 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:18.520 in this draft class, so I would have to imagine 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:20.960 that that's going to affect There's just such a saturation 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.480 every year there's. 0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:24.840 One position that just a lot of them in there. 0:30:24.720 --> 0:30:27.320 Because there's like think about college offenses now there's like 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:29.800 they're full of receivers, so everyone's going to have a 0:30:29.800 --> 0:30:32.120 couple and it's crazy. So this year I thought would 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.080 be a good idea, like just talking about the Bills 0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:36.520 real quick, anybody that they could draft at the end 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.040 of the first round that you like, and then we 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.440 can talk about some later round receivers, maybe for Washington potentially. 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.760 Key and Coleman looked like he had a Beal's jersey 0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:44.520 own three years ago. 0:30:45.360 --> 0:30:46.920 So what do you say that, because I don't really 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.920 When I think Beal's received was I think be cold weather, 0:30:51.520 --> 0:30:53.680 uh hands, he did go to Michigan State. 0:30:53.760 --> 0:30:56.160 Yeah, not the fastest guys, but tough like my boy 0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.920 Eric Molds. Like Eric Mold could fly. But it's physique 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.600 is what caught you. When I when I play against Buffalo, 0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.080 it was it was Lee Evans. It was like dudes 0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.040 with some speed and some size, so I could see 0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.920 him going while receiving the first round and Whire receiving 0:31:10.920 --> 0:31:13.480 in the second round, just because it's so deep. So 0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:15.280 when I see Key on cod and I think it's 0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:19.080 a little too high for h for Johnny wi Wilson 0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.479 from from uh Tolorida State, but I could see them 0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.200 taking him in the third like them taking a big 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:26.640 guy in the speed guy. Like you know, I just 0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:31.920 see so many mixtures. Uh A d from Texas gonna 0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:32.760 say you got to do from Church? 0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.760 Are you trying to replace stuff on Diggs? That type 0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:36.560 of player to get? 0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.160 So I think when you look at their their their 0:31:39.280 --> 0:31:41.800 roster right now, they have a couple of capable guys. 0:31:41.840 --> 0:31:43.880 You know, Sam Sami's on the roster. 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:45.720 You know, you have some other guys that's probably not 0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:48.520 proven telling them, but they obviously been in the league 0:31:48.600 --> 0:31:50.760 long enough to be you know, have some eyes and 0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:51.920 and got. 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:52.840 Some stuff on film. 0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:55.320 But I think it's hard to try to go and 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:56.720 get the same guy because they didn't know they was 0:31:56.720 --> 0:31:58.200 gonna get a Digs, you know what I'm saying. 0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.560 Like Dix, it just wasn't that to me. 0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.800 I look at it like this, when you have a 0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:07.600 chance to get talent. It doesn't matter how much he 0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:09.240 looks like the last piece that was here. You see 0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:12.080 what I'm saying, Talent, You want talent. So it's a 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.320 bunch of guys sitting there. Yeah, you could go. You 0:32:14.320 --> 0:32:16.480 could pick your poison. Really, you know, it's so many 0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:19.800 guys like to see. You got Brian Thomas or what 0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:21.280 his name is. He'll be gone by then. But what 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.440 I'm saying, he's around that down here, down that he's 0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:24.520 he's down. 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:25.880 But he's the perfect match for him. 0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:28.280 You got Ryan Thomas Rome probably gone too. But it's 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:29.640 so many guys. You know what I'm saying. 0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:32.000 You talking about key On, Yeah, I would like I 0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.720 would probably think that he would be one of those 0:32:33.720 --> 0:32:35.760 guys that would move up, like we talked about last week, 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:38.200 from the second round. If he falls the second round. 0:32:38.200 --> 0:32:39.920 I think he's one of those talents too that somebody 0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:40.880 gonna say, nonah, we want that. 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:42.719 You know what I mean. He had the size there 0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:43.440 and he had the ability. 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.600 So I think if they can go double Xavier, if 0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:49.040 they want to Xavier worthy in the first and then. 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:51.320 Get in the. 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:54.040 Second, and I think them are two legit starters, then 0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.240 they got the They got the money now to add 0:32:57.640 --> 0:32:59.520 ob j Right and Sea. 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.240 So now they got Curtis already. 0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:02.200 Yeah, they got Curtis. 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:04.680 They go your wide receiving core right now, you don't 0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:06.240 need you got Curtis. 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:07.560 And just some names to kind of throw out that 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.480 I think will be there when they're picking. It's like 0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.280 Mitchell is probably the number one guy, Lad McCaughey, the 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:15.680 guy from Georgia if you're worthy from Texas, the speedzer guy, 0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.280 Troy Franklin, no one's really talking about anymore because he 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:21.080 had a rough combine but also a speeds for Keyon Coleman, 0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:23.520 Ricky Pearsaw maybe my favorite. 0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:28.200 Talking about Pearsaw because everybody talks glowingly about him, but 0:33:28.240 --> 0:33:30.680 then they won't blow him up. You see what I'm saying, 0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:32.680 Like every time I talk, I hear somebody like, oh, 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:34.400 like receiver. 0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.080 You didn't hear the stories that's going on about your 0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.880 boy from l as you saying he's a. 0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:41.720 What was they what what was reported about him? Last week? 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:42.960 They said he had. 0:33:42.840 --> 0:33:46.960 Some some issues about big big markets, Like it was 0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:51.080 like keep a close eye on them. Yeah, And I 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:53.800 watched a little podcast and they was like I think 0:33:53.840 --> 0:33:55.760 it was Jayden and Daniels like, hey man, they said you, 0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.160 they said you're going to have some some issues going. 0:33:58.160 --> 0:33:59.560 And he was just sitting there like, why me. I 0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:01.280 guess it is pick somebody. They had to pick me, 0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:04.800 But that's odd to me. It happens all the time. 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.720 Let's tell you what happened to me. Lead your draft lead. 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:09.600 People want to joe that dream to their draft that 0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:12.720 it's a team of two that'll put out false narrative. 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:14.520 They want they want you because they want you to 0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:15.160 drop for them. 0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.760 Like my false narrative was it was never a receiver 0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.040 under five to ten picked in the top top, you know, 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.239 first round, because it was said to me when I 0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:28.520 was coming out that from just what I did por 0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.560 as pro day wise and my play for four years, 0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.440 I could be the first receiver taking in my draft class. 0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:36.920 But I wasn't six feet so they wasn't gonna take me. 0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:38.239 No one was gonna take me first, you know what 0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:38.640 I'm saying. 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:39.759 So the Dolphins didn't. 0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:41.400 Yeah we know who they took like four guys in 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.359 front of me, Yeah, three guys from me rather, but 0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:46.759 the Dolphins put that out because they wanted me to 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.040 fall to twenty eight thirty something and then they put 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:52.000 it small print in the back of the paper. They 0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:54.920 put it front page talking about me, and then when 0:34:54.920 --> 0:34:57.279 we corrected them, like, you know, challenge nothing about it, 0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.799 they put a oh we sorry, that was someone wrote 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:02.839 that in the back page. So like it's crazy how 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:04.720 they do it. And I saw the thing about neighbors, 0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:06.319 and I'm like, this happens every year. 0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:07.840 Yeah, And I think it's important to remember with the 0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:10.240 draft stuff and we'll talk about Ricky pearsall in a second, 0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.759 is that these are all most of this information that 0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.799 they're getting is like media people's opinions, and then it's 0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:20.080 what the team wants to get out. So around the building, 0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:21.799 and I've got friends on different teams and I talked 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:23.640 draft stuff with them pretty much all year around, and 0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:25.640 all of a sudden, about a month and a half 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.440 out from draft time, Yeah, it just goes radio silent 0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.719 and can't get those dudes on the phone. So if that, 0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:34.640 if that's leaking, a team is definitely leaked. Yeah, And 0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:36.640 again I think it's also important to remember, like I 0:35:36.680 --> 0:35:39.160 find this all the time when I'm reading other people's evaluations, 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:43.120 that fans value different things in the NFL. You know 0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:44.440 what I'm saying so like when they look at Ricky 0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:46.360 pierceon like, oh, he's like a six to one hundred 0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.120 and ninety five pound white dude, but like his short 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.080 air quickness is insane, his ability to stem routes is insane, 0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.600 his contested catch ability is insane. So I can see 0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:57.440 a team and like the student's right, I want yeah, exactly, 0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:00.480 rams receiving, Yeah, and a guy that's gonna be cool, 0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.480 yesundred percent. And so he's a guy. So again obviously 0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:05.759 for the bill's lots of receivers for the commanders, though, 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.480 I think the point still drives home like Ricky Piersaw 0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.840 was the last guy read, Xavier Leget would still be 0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:13.080 on the board probably at forty. But again you could 0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:14.040 fall down a little bit. 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:14.760 Uh. 0:36:14.800 --> 0:36:16.720 Malachi Cordley dog I. 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:21.959 Love Melica is a running back. Have you watched his female. 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:22.960 Yeah, guy, he's rock. 0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:23.480 I watched. 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:26.800 I know I'm talking like I know you hail. 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:30.040 Yeah, we know you watched the probably Melica. You probably 0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.120 saw what kind of song he put. 0:36:32.200 --> 0:36:35.120 Well, what I'm saying, well, you shocked. But he was 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.520 manhandling like DB's and linebackers. 0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:39.640 No, I wasn't really I think like The thing is 0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:42.000 because everyone had told me beforehand. It was like, oh, 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.799 he's a dog he's so he turned on You're like, oh, like, 0:36:44.920 --> 0:36:46.920 I get it. I don't say like he because he is. 0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.479 He's fairly than seeing him at the Senior Bowl. He's 0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.759 just like this kind of yoked up pit, cool kind 0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:55.120 of guy and dangerous upon Dvonte's Walker from uh Carro Like, 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.719 Carolina might not catch football, but he is fast as 0:36:58.719 --> 0:36:59.839 all out. I need him to catch. 0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.840 Don't Carolina with the guy don't catch. 0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:07.080 The ball, you can run though. Jill and Polk from 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:08.719 what you have another dog man? 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.239 You've watched him, Yeah, he was. I like both of 0:37:11.280 --> 0:37:13.200 those guys. I watched him in that bowl game. That 0:37:13.239 --> 0:37:15.480 was the first time. You know, he kind of flashed. 0:37:15.520 --> 0:37:18.080 I mean, but like that's what I say too, And 0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:19.960 it's crazy and I don't want to be long on this. 0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.600 They kind of discredit quarterbacks when they have good receivers. 0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.399 Yeah, like what what what matters is if if he's 0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:31.320 good and I'm good, it all worked working? What the 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.960 hell you mean? At the Ken Dorsey he wasn't the 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:34.680 best guy. 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.720 Like like, oh, yeah, he had Tana, he had Tanner, Reggie, 0:37:37.760 --> 0:37:39.320 Wayne and Andre Johnson. 0:37:39.680 --> 0:37:42.160 That's what he threw to in two years. So what. 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:44.799 That's like an All Star? 0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.040 But it's crazy, man, Like I was hearing how he 0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.399 was talking about Pinnis talking about, well he had roam 0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:52.439 and this guy and the one guy that look man, 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.560 y'all trying to lord his man status because of these injuries. 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:59.160 The dude precision and in these passes is like Pennick 0:37:59.239 --> 0:38:02.840 unheard of. He hats putting shot, but he is. 0:38:03.000 --> 0:38:06.560 He is skinny to me, like they The. 0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:08.440 Thing about him that gets me is his footwork is 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:10.520 a little off sometimes but and he just relies all 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:13.920 on his arm and he can absolutely rip it. 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:17.160 He can throw his arm is like a I can't 0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.919 say Patrick Mahons, but you know how Pat Mahons don't 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:20.479 need to have. 0:38:20.440 --> 0:38:23.000 His body, yeah, said, he still get the ball. 0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:25.919 That's how I see Pennings that he's making throws where 0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:29.680 the body is not set is sometimes bounds, and he's 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:31.359 still putting it on the dime, you know what I mean? 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.560 So who knows absolutely? And so then we got okay, 0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.200 like how many receivers he run off? Probably fifteen? Yeah, 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:39.640 so there's more, there's more there. Jermaine Burton probably the 0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:41.840 first round pick if he doesn't get in trouble. Jayleen 0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.399 McMillan from udub Ye so super sick. 0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:44.839 Right. 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:48.760 Yeah, he's a big guy. Yeah, very good. Jean Baker 0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.680 probably the best route runner in the class. He's six 0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:57.200 one ten, Another bigger body guy, Malik Washington from Virginia, Virginia. Yeah, Tanna, 0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.239 this dude has feet for days. 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.600 I would say you a breakdance, ain't he? 0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:05.279 Yeah, he's a breakdancer. Brendan Rice, I mean, Jerry Son, 0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:06.520 he's signing a goat. 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.160 He looks like a I won't I won't mind having 0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.080 Jay Rice in the late rounds. 0:39:11.120 --> 0:39:13.880 I mean, hey, step is finest. 0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:16.799 I mean, I'm just reading these names. These are all guys. Like, 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:19.080 there's still five or six more guys. I sall third round. Great, 0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.640 So you still ain't saying Wilson He's the next one. 0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:26.080 Johnny Wilson, Jamari Thrash, Luke McCaffrey, Jacob Cowing. Other small guy, 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:29.560 Cornelius Johnson, a big old dude from Michigan. Like they're 0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:31.839 so point of this right off? 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:32.719 About twenty five pairents. 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.640 Stop making your son go to wide receiver cas Too 0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:36.640 many receivers in the drafts. 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.239 All the guy that used to play running back and 0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:39.799 they like. 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:44.319 No dB even get paid. Yeah, I'm got Fletcher's son. 0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.800 That's right, he's thank you, Jason. He's he's like built 0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.719 like a running back. Yeah, but he's playing slot receiver. 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:49.719 Yeah, fletch me up. 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:51.920 You know they're gonna get My son is like you Tennant. 0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.200 I'm watching him run routes and I'm like, damn, it's 0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:56.520 like Tann. I'm watching ten in all the years and 0:39:56.560 --> 0:39:58.319 I coult on his film like no, no. 0:39:58.239 --> 0:39:58.640 He can hear. 0:39:58.800 --> 0:40:02.000 I'm like, fletch spot on, like from from this just 0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.520 how cat quick he is and how he runs his 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.000 routes and how he's aggressively going out to the balls. 0:40:07.040 --> 0:40:08.719 I'm like, yeah, let you hit that on the head. 0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:10.320 So all those guys you just right off, which is 0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:12.000 a lot of them. I'm sorry for those at home. 0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:16.120 Anybody those guys you're like, we want that guy here, anybody. 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.440 Yep, Xavier leg it. 0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:21.200 Yeah, if we could get him in the second round, 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:24.160 if he's around at that first second round pick, I'm 0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.399 gonna call me on the go on the stage. I'm 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:28.279 going on the stage and say his name I don't 0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:29.960 did it. I did it what years ago? 0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:31.160 I do it again? 0:40:32.200 --> 0:40:34.720 Time for you to do it. 0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:40.200 Represent the three times Super Bowl chap America's real team. 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.719 You understand me, Jerry, get out of here, just like 0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:47.040 you're cutting a problem with the thirty third pick. 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:49.839 So you're gonna be like Buddy who wanted him eighty 0:40:49.880 --> 0:40:55.919 eight for the cop pig that you know he went 0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.120 on there and talk some. 0:40:57.200 --> 0:40:59.440 Crap boy anybody you're you're saying, we gotta I. 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:01.120 Like to get even though I feel about again. 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:02.839 Yeah, but he's gonna be He's like going so high. 0:41:02.840 --> 0:41:05.120 I give me another name, lower, lower down, Johnny. I'm 0:41:05.360 --> 0:41:06.920 keep saying, Johnny will Johnny Wilson. 0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:08.960 He won't make it. To say that one Johnny wilt 0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.000 probably you don't think. 0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:12.480 I think he'll make it the second round, but I 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.600 think the team will probably prioritize like a tackle or 0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.759 a head dresser. We only four peaks behind it, I know, 0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:20.359 But I'm just saying, like it depends on the board, 0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:21.760 like they might have to look at really. 0:41:21.920 --> 0:41:24.560 The best player for that for that time. You know 0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:26.960 the safe message you need to tackle? Yeah, and you 0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.040 that receiver there, you think that's. 0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.360 What I think I think the tackles are all going 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:34.760 to go really early. There's probably ten guys, like starting 0:41:34.760 --> 0:41:36.920 caliber guys. They're gonna go super early. So if you 0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:38.759 don't get one of thirty six or forty, you ain't 0:41:38.760 --> 0:41:41.680 get him pretty slim. Yeah, and we just read off, 0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:44.160 I mean twenty receivers, and I would be stoked if 0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:45.759 any one of them came here. Yeah, So for me, 0:41:45.840 --> 0:41:50.000 it's like Crowley, Yeah, Xavierly gets awesome. If Johnny Wilson 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:51.680 came here, that'd be awesome, just to see how that work. 0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:53.879 Taking it. Were picking up free agencyceivers right now too. 0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:55.640 So at the end of the day, bring the rights out, 0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:57.799 you know, because I didn't know he was truly six three. 0:41:58.000 --> 0:41:59.880 Yeah, that's what we need. 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.000 We need it, like I don't change your body. 0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:03.600 I don't want the more sports cars in here unless 0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:06.719 they fought three sports cars. But I need I need 0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:08.719 an s u V. You understanding, I need to pick 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:11.080 up truck. I need a big receiver with a big 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:13.799 catch rate. Is that catches bad passes like he got 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:18.040 a different between a short Defending a short receiver and defending. 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:19.160 The Plexico birds. 0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:22.080 Plex don't need the ball to be thrown in track 0:42:22.160 --> 0:42:25.080 to him, he gonna crack that bad ball. 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.080 I ain't when to cut you off. But I heard 0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:29.840 this on a I was riding somewhere. I think it 0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:32.680 was we missed them show this weekend on Friday. I 0:42:32.680 --> 0:42:34.239 think it was Friday. I don't know what that was, 0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.279 but it was talking about who was the last big 0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:38.520 receiver and they missed it because I'm like, wow, no 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:40.880 one said the guy name it was Dotson. 0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:43.600 Oh yeah, you know, everybody forgets about Dodson. 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.600 Dodson. Dodson was how big he was six three? 0:42:46.640 --> 0:42:50.000 He was six three, big dude, Big dude, Dawson. 0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.279 We have nine Dotson, Like I know thember I remember 0:42:53.320 --> 0:42:53.920 the one who they were. 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:55.239 They basically ran up out of here. 0:42:56.040 --> 0:43:00.319 I know, because the one thing I did like about 0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:01.200 dots But I'm. 0:43:01.120 --> 0:43:05.080 Saying time, but he was the last big receiving live 0:43:05.160 --> 0:43:05.880 far in the draft. 0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.440 Every pay us but also to me, like Pierre was 0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:09.440 a big receiver though. 0:43:12.200 --> 0:43:14.080 You tlus, but I got it. 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:15.879 So that's what I'm saying. It's like, yeah, we think 0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:17.440 we need a big ride receiver here. If you need 0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.360 a big receiver, you got it. You need a small receiver, 0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.120 you got it. When a guy runs a four to three. 0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.640 You got it. And it's going to be throughout the draft. 0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:25.640 And so you know, this all came about because the 0:43:25.680 --> 0:43:28.320 receiver market conversation. I think this is going to definitely 0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.640 negatively affect the receiver market moving forward to every receiver 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.560 class is saturated like this looking for you. 0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:35.920 That's what I'm saying. Like it's going to have guys. 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:39.200 When I say, the guys who are worthy, stay worthy 0:43:39.239 --> 0:43:41.200 because these young guys coming in for your spot. 0:43:41.280 --> 0:43:41.960 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:43.200 Absolutely so I think that's going to do it for 0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.000 today's show. 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