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Speaker 1: In today's episode the Command Center Podcast, it's happy birthday

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Speaker 1: to us, right, Oh yeah, you Michael Jackson out here,

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Speaker 1: all right. We talked about the Stefan Diggs traded to

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Speaker 1: the Texans and is that Deshaun watching trade the worst

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Speaker 1: trade ever? It's stay tuned to find out, and what

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Speaker 1: are the Bills going to do a wide receiver? And

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Speaker 1: are there receivers that we like in the draft in

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Speaker 1: later rounds? It all starts right out. Welcome on into

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Speaker 1: the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred

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Speaker 1: Swood and Santana mosaying guys, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Happy birthday,

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Speaker 1: Happy birthday to this podcast. It's been one year since

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Speaker 1: we've done it, and I don't know, man, it's just

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Speaker 1: like it doesn't It did fly by, And this is

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Speaker 1: one of the funnest shows we do because we just

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Speaker 1: sit here and talked the whole time. But I thought

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Speaker 1: it'd be a good idea just to kind of say, hey,

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Speaker 1: what are your favorite memories from the last year doing

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Speaker 1: this show? All the ups, all the all the downs.

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Speaker 2: You know, boy bands on you the last as long.

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Speaker 2: Let's usually me as Timberlake.

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Speaker 3: I usually leave at this time.

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Speaker 1: You're just timulating what.

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Speaker 3: You know, timulate? Why can I keep too?

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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, it's true. You gotta move on to

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Speaker 1: make more money. So yeah, so so for me, my

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Speaker 1: best memory this year was beating friend and basketball, just

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Speaker 1: the build up, the set up, the lack of conditioning,

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Speaker 1: the whole thing.

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Speaker 4: I was in no shape. But guess what when you

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Speaker 4: beat me that day?

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Speaker 2: One abb has started to show up each month after that,

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Speaker 2: I purchased a bike, like you changed my life that

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Speaker 2: you know, I was just drifting for a while.

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Speaker 3: I still care about waiting to see that bike too. Picture.

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Speaker 3: I didn't give them one of the little they say

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Speaker 3: real bikers don't do that riding.

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Speaker 4: I love saying that. Did they humble me?

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Speaker 3: And plus I don't see how he was so rough, dude.

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Speaker 2: Like sometimes people don't know how scrown you are man,

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Speaker 2: because listen, you was literally bagging me down and.

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Speaker 4: I was like this, I can't stop him from moving.

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Speaker 1: I was impressed for how long your arms were quite honestly,

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Speaker 1: like I felt very strong, but like I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: Fred's arms are really long.

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Speaker 4: Reach That was always mine eyes, man, And you don't.

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Speaker 1: Remember your measurement, do you know it?

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Speaker 3: Was very long.

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Speaker 1: It'd be cool if you could get that up somewhere

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Speaker 1: figure out.

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Speaker 5: I think my fun is memory just to shed a

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Speaker 5: little light on the bake offs. Man, when you know,

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Speaker 5: I gotta give it to Zach when you put all

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Speaker 5: that white stuff on.

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Speaker 1: The dame.

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Speaker 3: Kind of like you know what?

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Speaker 1: Made that was pretty funny?

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Speaker 3: I was. I didn't really mean to come up to

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Speaker 3: him like yeah, but I'm like, why would he do that? Bro?

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Speaker 3: You over doing it?

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Speaker 4: He got reached in his pocket and pull out.

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Speaker 1: Of Touchtros And we all love Zach on the show.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing Zach will do is he will

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Speaker 1: like even the cookies he made. He won the cookies,

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Speaker 1: but they had like full chocolate bars in that Like

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Speaker 1: I was like, come on, man, just make.

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Speaker 4: Its at home and said, you know what, how could

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Speaker 4: I want to.

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Speaker 1: Did?

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Speaker 2: He constantly overthinks things. But what I'm really waiting on

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Speaker 2: for the future is the bowling.

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Speaker 1: The bowling.

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Speaker 4: We haven't done it yet.

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Speaker 2: Now we didn't need some charity bowling, but we haven't

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Speaker 2: done the bowling yet. I cannot waiting and shout at them, well, it's.

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Speaker 1: Crazy to me because I don't think anyone disputed that

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Speaker 1: you were like a good bowler at any point, and

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Speaker 1: you were just like we're bowling, Like I got to

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Speaker 1: show you that I'm better than you are bowling. And

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Speaker 3: He's like you know, he's over right now. Yeah. He

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Speaker 3: didn't even win it.

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Speaker 1: Down, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: They told, didn't they vote? He didn't beat me in

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Speaker 3: the field goal kicking.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was sheer power wooking.

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Speaker 1: It was sher power. But also I think the funny

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Speaker 1: thing about that Fred is like you came in. People

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Speaker 1: We came in the office and and Jason was telling

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Speaker 1: when Jason was like, come kick a field goal, I

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Speaker 1: was like I was kind of nervous, yeah, because I

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Speaker 1: was like, man, maybe Fred can actually kick field goals yea.

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Speaker 1: And so we got out there, we had to kick

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Speaker 1: that fifteen yarder start and it was just like Shank,

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Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I got this one. Got

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Speaker 3: It's hard to kick a field goal, no doubt. Like

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Speaker 3: people sit there. I know. I don't know why you

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Speaker 3: didn't know that people sit there and like turn a

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Speaker 3: TV on? Is that right?

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Speaker 1: Finkle?

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Speaker 2: Now I'm telling you kicking a field I can only

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Speaker 2: matter how it feels with one hundred thousand people in

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Speaker 5: We think that's the easiest position on our team or

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Speaker 5: on the field, and it's it's.

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Speaker 3: By far one of the most toughest.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about specially, it's thinking about the mental part

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Speaker 5: of it, you know what I'm saying, Yeah, think about

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Speaker 5: you mentally getting focused and saying, you know, this drive

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Speaker 5: has been an end with my foot.

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Speaker 3: One way or another.

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Speaker 4: You's either going to be a field goal or extra point.

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Speaker 2: And agree that what is the what is the pseudo

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Speaker 2: easiest position in football? And we had to pick one

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Speaker 2: to say, you know what they job is easy, But

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Speaker 2: I say it's a pawner.

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Speaker 1: Even those guys ain't kicking a sod.

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Speaker 3: You had to punt to win in the game, I've seen.

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Speaker 1: I got a funny story. So we were because we

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Speaker 1: There was like seven seconds left. There was like no

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Speaker 1: was playing for at the time. Yeah, we got out

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Speaker 1: so they brought our gunners in and I was like, dude,

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Speaker 1: they're about to run this thing back. I knew it

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Speaker 1: I can't cover kick to save my life, and I'm

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Speaker 1: out why am I here? I'm out here. They're about

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Speaker 1: to block our two best cover guys. And so we

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Speaker 1: got down there and I'm the first one down there,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like you, I was like this touchdown, touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I know it.

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Speaker 1: I know if I'm the first one down here, everyone

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Speaker 1: else is getting their face blocked off and they're about

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Speaker 1: to go over and score touchdown. We lost game on them.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Well it happened so few in between.

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Speaker 1: Also, dude, I got a funny story. So I remember

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Speaker 1: one of my other big claims to fame historically. Remember

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Speaker 1: when Devin Hester was like rolling through and I think

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Speaker 1: he was about to break the record. This is twenty

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Speaker 1: and I remember we were out there playing the Bears

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Speaker 1: and I was like, and it was like if he

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Speaker 1: if he runs this one back, he'll break the record.

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Speaker 1: And so I remember I got kind of hummed up.

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Speaker 1: And then Niles missed the tackle and then he's running

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Speaker 3: Was probably the slowest we turn watch. He's not even

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm gonna get him. And I

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Speaker 1: five dudes right in front of him, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I am gonna save the touchdown tackle. I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: on Sports Center. And right when that thought entered and

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Speaker 1: exited my mind, somebody came out of nobody to even see,

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Speaker 1: and dear leeted me. So I made Sports Center, but

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Speaker 1: not for the way that I was gonna make it.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I had John Howe you remember him, He used

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Speaker 4: to be your kick it. Then we turned to the

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Speaker 4: Jet Skins for the year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we brought it.

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Speaker 2: We brought it like twenty four JITs. My boy Randy

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Speaker 2: tummins All of them. So Joe Howard the only kick

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Speaker 2: I know that just constantly stay hurt, like I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: Why we play in the game. He pulled a hamscreak.

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Speaker 2: Oh so now Derek Froust.

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Speaker 1: Punter has to kick. They can't kick people sleep on

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Speaker 1: that has has to kick field goals, miss every one

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Speaker 2: It's the point like, oh, I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I didn't really think because I was.

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Speaker 3: Like, if you can kick, you can kick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's different.

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Speaker 4: No, it's totally different.

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Speaker 5: One is literally positioned then, but the easiest, the easiest,

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Speaker 3: No, because they don't play.

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Speaker 4: Let's go with playing position position from thinking.

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Speaker 3: I don't think no, I'm easy, but from none, I'm easy.

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Speaker 3: But the degrees are harder.

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Speaker 1: We have to say from a mental standpoint, yeah, defensive

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Speaker 1: end has to be the easiest one because it's literally

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Speaker 1: just like, this is your gap, Go get the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And I know that I couldn't do it because you

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Speaker 1: need to be tremendously athletic. All the biggest freaks in

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Speaker 1: the NFL do that. Yeah, but that's gotta be mentally

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Speaker 1: one of these.

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Speaker 2: You say, that's a position more instinct than thinking, Oh,

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: So I gotta be because you can set the edge

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Speaker 3: all day. You ain't getting no second. I'm gonna set

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Speaker 3: the d even I gotta say. I'm gonna make sure

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm he was.

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Speaker 1: He was a beast at that though. I remember blocking him.

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Speaker 3: In Elizabeth.

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Speaker 4: Shuttle Fields.

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Speaker 3: I wrote, you know what, somebody left like that. But

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Speaker 3: it's some true.

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Speaker 4: Played no defense yet.

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Speaker 1: But he also was one of the biggest human beings wrongest.

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Speaker 3: I remember the first time bench the house, swat the house.

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Speaker 1: I remember the first time he came through the door. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I shouldn't be in the NFL. Like

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Speaker 1: that's how big he was. Always felt like you should

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Speaker 1: be attack on his recovery day, do you remember this,

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Speaker 1: He's coming on the off day. So Monday after the

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Speaker 1: game he would deadlift six eighty, or he's deadlift seven

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Speaker 4: That was his off dad, And when he won bench

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Speaker 4: of five hundred, snitching on the t keep me real,

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Speaker 4: Shulgar Fells.

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Speaker 2: Tell them out of time, don't you worrybody getting to

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Speaker 2: the quarterback?

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Speaker 5: I don't care who you are when it comes to it. Man,

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Speaker 3: I'm just getting over.

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Speaker 2: I said, we was at the casino at the sports park,

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Speaker 3: And let them know when we go live.

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Speaker 2: They can go questions, they can as us whatever they want.

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Speaker 5: You know, I had my own individual podcast back in

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Speaker 5: then most of them showed up. Yeah, so you came

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Speaker 3: Marcus a whole year now had we had that year date.

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Speaker 5: I know these fans would want to show up if

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Speaker 3: I know for a fact they want to tell you

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Speaker 5: Yeah, young lady want to see you at first, Like

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Speaker 5: while you're picking on Fred all you probably don't have

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Speaker 1: Well, glad you said shirts, because we could also make

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Speaker 2: You have to say kind of merch, talking about bracelets,

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Speaker 1: And if you've ever been to a live event with Fredd,

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Speaker 5: Out out there, was at the state House the other day.

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Speaker 5: I'm texting Fred anywhere yet man pull up. Fred came

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Speaker 3: Like everybody was like he was just getting ready for that.

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Speaker 4: So hey, somebody got to break a little light.

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Speaker 1: So now I was actually talking football. So there was

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Speaker 4: In another day to get it done. But see we've

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Speaker 5: coach would have to be doing it, which I'm not

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Speaker 5: saying I wasn't, but he don't owe me anything. And

443
00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,080
Speaker 5: at the same time, all you guys in that locker room,

444
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Speaker 5: I'm still playing for you. I'm still here because of

445
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Speaker 5: you guys. So I don't want to make this team

446
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,440
Speaker 5: have to carry me going in the media talking about

447
00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,520
Speaker 5: what is doing. You know what I'm saying, that's drama

448
00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,600
Speaker 5: that we don't need. And so I've always been a

449
00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,040
Speaker 5: guy and it's just before that. I'm a team player.

450
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Speaker 5: I'm a team player because I feel like that's the

451
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Speaker 5: only way you can win, especially on the team sport.

452
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Speaker 3: I can't win by myself. I can't do it myself.

453
00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,679
Speaker 5: I need a quarterback, I need the blockers, I need

454
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 5: the officer line, I need a running back. I need

455
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 5: everybody to be successful as a receiver. So that's the

456
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Speaker 5: same way as a team, you know, as an individual.

457
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,239
Speaker 5: So a lot of these guys I watch it all

458
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,199
Speaker 5: the time and they say, I've been hearing this def

459
00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,119
Speaker 5: thing about receiving it for a long time, which it

460
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Speaker 5: fit certain people.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that''t me the damn ball do this, do that.

462
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Speaker 5: But when you put that bullz out on you and

463
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Speaker 5: then you're not ready for something happens.

464
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Speaker 3: Now they're gonna talk and today today's game.

465
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Speaker 5: Yea social media everybody's the biggest credit. Now you know

466
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, So it comes out that much more negative.

467
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Speaker 5: So that's why I've always kept that kind of Look,

468
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,560
Speaker 5: it's not about me, it's about what they want to do.

469
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Speaker 3: And as long as we wining doing this, yeah, let

470
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Speaker 3: me sit back and shut my mouth.

471
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Speaker 2: So when we look back five years from now, who

472
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Speaker 2: you think won is trade?

473
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Speaker 4: Do you think is the Houston Texas?

474
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Speaker 3: How you think the Bills?

475
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 2: Because sometimes you know you can win by by losing

476
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,640
Speaker 2: something to move forward, also in one side gaining something.

477
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 3: To move forward.

478
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Speaker 4: So in five years, who wins this this deal?

479
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Speaker 1: Well that I was about to say though too though,

480
00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:34,959
Speaker 1: like starting to cut you off to you, is that

481
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Speaker 1: even though Stefan Diggs has all kind of this emotional

482
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Speaker 1: baggage around him, right, and he kind of seems to

483
00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 1: wear out his welcome in the world out in Minnesota,

484
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Speaker 1: whereas out in Buffalo. There is a period of time

485
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Speaker 1: where he's a very productive player on this Texas team,

486
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,479
Speaker 1: this Texans team, He's a true number one. And then

487
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Speaker 1: you add that to Tank Dell, Nico Collins, the tight

488
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Speaker 1: end Dalton Schultz, Like you've got some legitimate playmakers around

489
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback Joe Mixon, and so yeah, and I

490
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Speaker 1: think this is an op quite frankly, an opportunity for

491
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Speaker 1: this team to kind of say, hey, we're ready to

492
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Speaker 1: make a playoff push because of what CJ. Shad can do.

493
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Speaker 1: So I know it kind of maybe feels like Buffalo's

494
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,919
Speaker 1: winning and Houston's winning, But as of right now, it

495
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Speaker 1: seems like a good trade for both sides. And we

496
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Speaker 1: won't know. But if let's say, for example, they get

497
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Speaker 1: into they get to the super Bowl, you know, like

498
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Speaker 1: hypothetically speaking, and then it's a win for Houston, I.

499
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Speaker 4: Guess how lucky? How do you envy him in a way?

500
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Speaker 2: His first quarterback was Kirk Cuzin, his second one was

501
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 2: Josh Ally, and now he got CJ. Scrad Have you

502
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Speaker 2: had anybody on that level? You did have Kirk, but

503
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Speaker 2: it was a young Kirk. But it was a young Kirk.

504
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Speaker 5: I think, if you want to look at that level,

505
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 5: see I look at quarterbacks differently. I liked the older quarterbacks,

506
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Speaker 5: the more seasoned quarterbacks. I feel like they they had

507
00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 5: so much seasoning on that game to where they knew

508
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Speaker 5: where to put the ball out. They know how to

509
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Speaker 5: get college this chief. So that's why I love Todd Collins.

510
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Speaker 5: That's why I love mcnaw when he came here for that,

511
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Speaker 5: for that little short.

512
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Speaker 3: Bit of time we played.

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Speaker 5: That's why I say Mark Todays day, Vinnie Testa Verdi

514
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Speaker 5: and Mark Runell is my favorite. I love Vinnie in

515
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Speaker 5: New York. Chad was good too, but I had success

516
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Speaker 5: out the gate.

517
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Speaker 3: With Vinnie, you know what I'm saying. And here Mark,

518
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 3: we now like those guys.

519
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Speaker 5: When I look at today's game, I care less about

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Speaker 5: how young you are.

521
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: I just want to see you. You know football.

522
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,360
Speaker 5: You know from looking at this this blank canvas right now.

523
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 5: When I when we line up in this formation, this

524
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,159
Speaker 5: is how they're gonna be able to stop it.

525
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:22,239
Speaker 3: And where is read the hole?

526
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Speaker 5: Where the weakness, where the weakness is gonna be. So

527
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Speaker 5: those guys did that for me, you know what I mean?

528
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Speaker 5: They made my game easy when I got to sit

529
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Speaker 5: out there and think, for you, are we in trouble?

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Speaker 1: And the Texans did disinteresting contract stuff here, and I

531
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Speaker 1: think this is interesting about like the receiver market. And

532
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Speaker 1: one thing before we get to the receiver market, I

533
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Speaker 1: want to bring this up. I think it's also interesting.

534
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Speaker 1: I think quarterback salary is going to play a big

535
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Speaker 1: role in this in this next conversation we're going to

536
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Speaker 1: have with regards to receiver market, and so I wanted

537
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Speaker 1: to just say, like, the Texans took three point five

538
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 1: million dollars of guaranteed money and gave it to Diggs

539
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Speaker 1: for this next season. So he's going to be making

540
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Speaker 1: twenty two point five to two million dollars next year,

541
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Speaker 1: which is a lot of money. And so so to me,

542
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Speaker 1: what is this dude for the receiver market? And the

543
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to bring up is, I do think

544
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Speaker 1: it's interesting that big time receivers seem to be moving

545
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Speaker 1: on from teams that have paid their quarterback a lot

546
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Speaker 1: of money. Now right, they have both, they gotta find

547
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Speaker 1: ways to save money. So what does this trade mean,

548
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: because obviously he's making a lot of money or over

549
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: one year, what does this mean for the receiver market

550
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: moving forward?

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Speaker 3: Give me your intell for because I know I want

552
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Speaker 3: to say something.

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Speaker 2: No, I think when it comes to the receiver market,

554
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Speaker 2: I think it's always affected by the draft, And because

555
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 2: this draft is loaded with receivers, you gonna see people

556
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: less prone to play the other guy when I can

557
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: get the same production from a guy that I could

558
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Speaker 2: have six years going forward. So I think the thing

559
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Speaker 2: about it is, and you said it, if my quarterback

560
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Speaker 2: makes two hundred and fifty million, my wide receiver can't

561
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Speaker 2: make a hundred men ago like, it's.

562
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Speaker 4: Just may up to it.

563
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Speaker 2: Now, if I got a young quarterback, how can I

564
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Speaker 2: protect him with a older receiver who's gonna draw double

565
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Speaker 2: coverage so he can throw backside.

566
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Speaker 4: One on one and throw side tight end matchups.

567
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Speaker 2: So for as much as I paid his receiver, he's

568
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Speaker 2: actually worth it for the progression of my quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: So he can get to.

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Speaker 2: The position of a Josh Hallen that I don't need

571
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Speaker 2: a true number one wide receiver.

572
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 3: I can get to the level of.

573
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 2: Pat Mahons where I don't need Tyreek Hill no more

574
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: because once we can't afford them too. I can turn

575
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: people into stars because my quarterback, they had the guy.

576
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 2: But guess what when Alex Smith was the quarterback and

577
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: they still had Tyreek Hill and the rest of those

578
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 2: guys inserted Pat Mahons unstoppable offense. But he was still learning.

579
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Speaker 2: He knew what the double team was. They won double

580
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 2: team and Kelsey at the time they was double team Tyree.

581
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Speaker 2: So I think that wide receiver unlocks the potential of

582
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Speaker 2: youth by also kind of getting ran away by the quarterback.

583
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Speaker 4: With all the potential that gets paid.

584
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Speaker 5: So the market is sky high for the guys that

585
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 5: have proven theirself, you see everybody. I mean, like I'm

586
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 5: looking at some of these numbers, guys who you know,

587
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 5: guys that's just putting up, you know, mediocre seasons, and

588
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 5: they getting close to like what the top guys in

589
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 5: my era was getting. You know, in my era when

590
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 5: I first got my first deal here, you know, the

591
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,360
Speaker 5: top receivers was making six million a year, and then

592
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 5: it went up, you know, drastically from there. So by

593
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Speaker 5: the time I was leaving, it was more like in

594
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Speaker 5: the twelve fifteen you're getting a guy who's a third

595
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Speaker 5: a third receiver making twelve now a year.

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Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.

597
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Speaker 5: So if you look at it, it's great that they say, Okay, Stephan,

598
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Speaker 5: we giving you this twenty something plus because you are

599
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 5: a number one guy.

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Speaker 3: You know you're.

601
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Speaker 5: Bringing money here with you from your last deal, and

602
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 5: we're going to go ahead and grant you this other stuff.

603
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Speaker 5: But the thing that what does now what these teams

604
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 5: are doing, it's about their books. It's all about the books.

605
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 5: If my quarterback is here when it comes to in

606
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 5: my pocket, then I need to find a safe haven

607
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 5: with these guys that in the middle, you know.

608
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Speaker 3: What I mean.

609
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Speaker 5: So now I'd rather go out and get some young talent.

610
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Speaker 5: Then I don't have to pay my I don't have

611
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Speaker 5: to pay them as much. I got you on my side,

612
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Speaker 5: and I still got talent. I got some guys who's

613
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Speaker 5: capable of coming here and being in Stephan Diggs much

614
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 5: younger and going to have a higher ceiling because of

615
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 5: now they come into a game where the quarterback is

616
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Speaker 5: proven and he's already the money man, yep, where a

617
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 5: guy like Dick's going to what you just say, I

618
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 5: mean you hit it on the head. He's going to

619
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Speaker 5: Houston where the quarterback is on the ricked deal. Play

620
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Speaker 5: is here, yeah.

621
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Speaker 3: But money is here. Yeah.

622
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Speaker 5: So I could bring that big money receiver in because

623
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Speaker 5: by the time I pay him, he should be.

624
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Speaker 3: Out the door. Yeah, we're not going to probably be

625
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: paying him anybody.

626
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Speaker 2: They shrunk that deal because not because of the quarterback.

627
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 4: They shrunk that deal to.

628
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Speaker 2: One kind of dictate terms with him, but also Nico

629
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Speaker 2: Collins coming up, So they didn't want to tie their

630
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,399
Speaker 2: hands and say, no, we can't even offer Nico because

631
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: we're playing the older guy. They said, now we're gonna

632
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: take that out of there. Wasn't that pay him, keep

633
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Speaker 2: him on a short least, but also have the ability.

634
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Speaker 4: To keep a guy like Nico Collin.

635
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. I think that's I

636
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: think it's just such an interesting thing. And the receiver

637
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 1: market for a while look like everyone was getting paid everyone,

638
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Speaker 1: everyone was getting paid. Now it does seem like there

639
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: is a kind of top flight grill. It's going to

640
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 1: get paid like the four or five, And if you're

641
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: not in that top like the top flight group, you're

642
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 1: not going to get paid the same.

643
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 3: You're still getting money crazy, you're a second tier.

644
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 4: That's what we just seen.

645
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: Like we've seen last year, five wide receivers get the

646
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: same amount of money Terry A. J.

647
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Speaker 1: Brown.

648
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: It was like five of these guys.

649
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: And some of these guys kind of fight from leaning

650
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 2: to oh I'm one A to some one B.

651
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: But they still jumped up right there together.

652
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: So that's telling you where the comfortable spot right now

653
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: for a receiver is probably like five years eighty million.

654
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 3: It's almost like that.

655
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Speaker 5: It's almost like two is when it. When it comes

656
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Speaker 5: to this, you can't even you can't even fought to

657
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 5: receive it for this being.

658
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Speaker 3: Hitting the mark at the right time, you know what

659
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Speaker 3: I mean, Like with with Kirk.

660
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Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody got their painties in the bunch with Kirk,

661
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Speaker 5: Why is he getting what they what they giving quarterbacks

662
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 5: of his stature, you know what I mean. He deserves

663
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 5: the money because he's a first he's he's coming in

664
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 5: to be number one.

665
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 3: So you can't you can't.

666
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 5: We can't worry about the man pocket because he's sitting

667
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 5: in that position to receive that, you know what I mean.

668
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 5: And it's odd because you see a guy coming off

669
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 5: of Achilles and You're like, wow, but we know Kirk

670
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: from being a gun sling.

671
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: Round of applow. Kirk cussing gets the gray.

672
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,199
Speaker 2: You know, one of my favorite movie boys in the

673
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 2: hood when you begetting juice coming there store punching it.

674
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: I bet you every time Robert Griffin turning the TV

675
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: on the punching the head like I can't believe it, dude.

676
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: Keep and another little like fun little note here before

677
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: we get to our next topic, is that this Stefan

678
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Digg's trade is a result of the Deshaun Watson trade.

679
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: And maybe about Kirk right, it's like it's like cannon

680
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: fodder from that trade that they've like parceled out and

681
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: subdivided and they've gotten here, and so is that maybe

682
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: like the worst trade of all time? But think about it,

683
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: from that trade, they got a starting guard, Kean Greed.

684
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 1: They got Damian Pierce, she's like of a football player.

685
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: They got Will Anderson junior light pass rush. Yeah, they

686
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: got Tank tel who's one of the best young receivers

687
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: in the gamep on Diggs. And they haven't even picked

688
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: in this year's draft.

689
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 4: And they still got No. One pick in his draft.

690
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: Damn.

691
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 2: So I told you the only trade that stinks in

692
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 2: weeks of this type foulness is that herschel Walker trade

693
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: that started the dynasty for the Cowboys. They end up

694
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: getting there watch I mean a Woodson. I think they

695
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: end up getting Michael Irving out of that draft. I

696
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: think they got like six daughters.

697
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: Coming to say the same year. I think they got

698
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: like six daughters out of the draft.

699
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 4: Why hersher went on the rust for like three and

700
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 4: a half yard.

701
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: It wasn't three and a half yards.

702
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 2: He literally didn't get many yards and they traded him

703
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: to die.

704
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 4: But hershamalk Minnesota. Did you got in highlights?

705
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: He hey, I don't remember.

706
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: But they're also I mean, so it's Cleveland's tough because

707
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: they're they're in the they're like a playoff college. But

708
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, they're playing. Now he has been healthy,

709
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: that's another conversation. I think.

710
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 4: I think Joe he hasn't played to his potential. You know,

711
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 4: he hasn't looked like his old self.

712
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 5: And I don't look at it as if it's just

713
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: he can't play. I just feel like, man, it's hard

714
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 5: to miss them years and come back and.

715
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 2: Those years, and I think it's mental with him, imagine this.

716
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: A quarterback used to be in love by our whole city, and.

717
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: Now you're kind of like a pariah.

718
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: That's what anybody else.

719
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be the best me when I'm uncomfortable.

720
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 2: So I think that was the reason I give him

721
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: a legit reason. I could see him not being himself

722
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 2: because he just doesn't feel like he don't feel the love.

723
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: And I think that they bothered something at the least.

724
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 2: Some at the least don't need love. But a quarterback

725
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 2: need love.

726
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: We know you don't need. I hate everybody.

727
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: We got, we gotta gotta, we gotta call her. We

728
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: got Jason just.

729
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the herschel Walker trade.

730
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: They used some of the picks that they got in

731
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 2: that trade to get Darren Woodson.

732
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: And it was EMMITTT. Smith Michael.

733
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 3: Year before. I know it was eminent and I knew.

734
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: I'm glad to fact check that. But the other thing

735
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: talking Michael said is with the receiver market, because we

736
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: took a little side there in a kind of bad

737
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: trade philosophy, but in the importance of getting more picks,

738
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: which is something we talk about in the draft all

739
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: the time. The Antenna mention this briefly and I think

740
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: it's really important is there are so many good receivers

741
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: in this draft class, so I would have to imagine

742
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: that that's going to affect There's just such a saturation

743
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: every year there's.

744
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 4: One position that just a lot of them in there.

745
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: Because there's like think about college offenses now there's like

746
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: they're full of receivers, so everyone's going to have a

747
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: couple and it's crazy. So this year I thought would

748
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: be a good idea, like just talking about the Bills

749
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: real quick, anybody that they could draft at the end

750
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: of the first round that you like, and then we

751
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: can talk about some later round receivers, maybe for Washington potentially.

752
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 4: Key and Coleman looked like he had a Beal's jersey

753
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: own three years ago.

754
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: So what do you say that, because I don't really

755
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: When I think Beal's received was I think be cold weather,

756
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: uh hands, he did go to Michigan State.

757
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the fastest guys, but tough like my boy

758
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: Eric Molds. Like Eric Mold could fly. But it's physique

759
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: is what caught you. When I when I play against Buffalo,

760
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: it was it was Lee Evans. It was like dudes

761
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: with some speed and some size, so I could see

762
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: him going while receiving the first round and Whire receiving

763
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 2: in the second round, just because it's so deep. So

764
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: when I see Key on cod and I think it's

765
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: a little too high for h for Johnny wi Wilson

766
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 2: from from uh Tolorida State, but I could see them

767
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: taking him in the third like them taking a big

768
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: guy in the speed guy. Like you know, I just

769
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: see so many mixtures. Uh A d from Texas gonna

770
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: say you got to do from Church?

771
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Are you trying to replace stuff on Diggs? That type

772
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: of player to get?

773
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 5: So I think when you look at their their their

774
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 5: roster right now, they have a couple of capable guys.

775
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: You know, Sam Sami's on the roster.

776
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 5: You know, you have some other guys that's probably not

777
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 5: proven telling them, but they obviously been in the league

778
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 5: long enough to be you know, have some eyes and

779
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: and got.

780
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 3: Some stuff on film.

781
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 5: But I think it's hard to try to go and

782
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 5: get the same guy because they didn't know they was

783
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 5: gonna get a Digs, you know what I'm saying.

784
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 3: Like Dix, it just wasn't that to me.

785
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 5: I look at it like this, when you have a

786
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 5: chance to get talent. It doesn't matter how much he

787
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 5: looks like the last piece that was here. You see

788
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Talent, You want talent. So it's a

789
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 5: bunch of guys sitting there. Yeah, you could go. You

790
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 5: could pick your poison. Really, you know, it's so many

791
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 5: guys like to see. You got Brian Thomas or what

792
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 5: his name is. He'll be gone by then. But what

793
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 5: I'm saying, he's around that down here, down that he's

794
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 5: he's down.

795
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: But he's the perfect match for him.

796
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 3: You got Ryan Thomas Rome probably gone too. But it's

797
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: so many guys. You know what I'm saying.

798
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 5: You talking about key On, Yeah, I would like I

799
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 5: would probably think that he would be one of those

800
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 5: guys that would move up, like we talked about last week,

801
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 5: from the second round. If he falls the second round.

802
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 5: I think he's one of those talents too that somebody

803
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 5: gonna say, nonah, we want that.

804
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,719
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. He had the size there

805
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 3: and he had the ability.

806
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: So I think if they can go double Xavier, if

807
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: they want to Xavier worthy in the first and then.

808
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 4: Get in the.

809
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: Second, and I think them are two legit starters, then

810
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: they got the They got the money now to add

811
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 2: ob j Right and Sea.

812
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 3: So now they got Curtis already.

813
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, they got Curtis.

814
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: They go your wide receiving core right now, you don't

815
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: need you got Curtis.

816
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: And just some names to kind of throw out that

817
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I think will be there when they're picking. It's like

818
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: Mitchell is probably the number one guy, Lad McCaughey, the

819
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: guy from Georgia if you're worthy from Texas, the speedzer guy,

820
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Troy Franklin, no one's really talking about anymore because he

821
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: had a rough combine but also a speeds for Keyon Coleman,

822
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: Ricky Pearsaw maybe my favorite.

823
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 2: Talking about Pearsaw because everybody talks glowingly about him, but

824
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: then they won't blow him up. You see what I'm saying,

825
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: Like every time I talk, I hear somebody like, oh,

826
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: like receiver.

827
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 5: You didn't hear the stories that's going on about your

828
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 5: boy from l as you saying he's a.

829
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: What was they what what was reported about him? Last week?

830
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: They said he had.

831
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 5: Some some issues about big big markets, Like it was

832
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 5: like keep a close eye on them. Yeah, And I

833
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: watched a little podcast and they was like I think

834
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 5: it was Jayden and Daniels like, hey man, they said you,

835
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: they said you're going to have some some issues going.

836
00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 5: And he was just sitting there like, why me. I

837
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 5: guess it is pick somebody. They had to pick me,

838
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 5: But that's odd to me. It happens all the time.

839
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: Let's tell you what happened to me. Lead your draft lead.

840
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 5: People want to joe that dream to their draft that

841
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 5: it's a team of two that'll put out false narrative.

842
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: They want they want you because they want you to

843
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: drop for them.

844
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 5: Like my false narrative was it was never a receiver

845
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 5: under five to ten picked in the top top, you know,

846
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 5: first round, because it was said to me when I

847
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 5: was coming out that from just what I did por

848
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 5: as pro day wise and my play for four years,

849
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 5: I could be the first receiver taking in my draft class.

850
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 5: But I wasn't six feet so they wasn't gonna take me.

851
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 5: No one was gonna take me first, you know what

852
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

853
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 3: So the Dolphins didn't.

854
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 5: Yeah we know who they took like four guys in

855
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 5: front of me, Yeah, three guys from me rather, but

856
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 5: the Dolphins put that out because they wanted me to

857
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 5: fall to twenty eight thirty something and then they put

858
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 5: it small print in the back of the paper. They

859
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 5: put it front page talking about me, and then when

860
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 5: we corrected them, like, you know, challenge nothing about it,

861
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 5: they put a oh we sorry, that was someone wrote

862
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 5: that in the back page. So like it's crazy how

863
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 5: they do it. And I saw the thing about neighbors,

864
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 5: and I'm like, this happens every year.

865
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's important to remember with the

866
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: draft stuff and we'll talk about Ricky pearsall in a second,

867
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: is that these are all most of this information that

868
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: they're getting is like media people's opinions, and then it's

869
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: what the team wants to get out. So around the building,

870
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: and I've got friends on different teams and I talked

871
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: draft stuff with them pretty much all year around, and

872
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, about a month and a half

873
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: out from draft time, Yeah, it just goes radio silent

874
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: and can't get those dudes on the phone. So if that,

875
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: if that's leaking, a team is definitely leaked. Yeah, And

876
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: again I think it's also important to remember, like I

877
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: find this all the time when I'm reading other people's evaluations,

878
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: that fans value different things in the NFL. You know

879
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying so like when they look at Ricky

880
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: pierceon like, oh, he's like a six to one hundred

881
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: and ninety five pound white dude, but like his short

882
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: air quickness is insane, his ability to stem routes is insane,

883
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: his contested catch ability is insane. So I can see

884
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: a team and like the student's right, I want yeah, exactly,

885
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: rams receiving, Yeah, and a guy that's gonna be cool,

886
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: yesundred percent. And so he's a guy. So again obviously

887
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: for the bill's lots of receivers for the commanders, though,

888
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: I think the point still drives home like Ricky Piersaw

889
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: was the last guy read, Xavier Leget would still be

890
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: on the board probably at forty. But again you could

891
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: fall down a little bit.

892
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

893
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,720
Speaker 1: Malachi Cordley dog I.

894
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 4: Love Melica is a running back. Have you watched his female.

895
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, guy, he's rock.

896
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: I watched.

897
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 4: I know I'm talking like I know you hail.

898
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, we know you watched the probably Melica. You probably

899
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 5: saw what kind of song he put.

900
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying, well, you shocked. But he was

901
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: manhandling like DB's and linebackers.

902
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: No, I wasn't really I think like The thing is

903
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: because everyone had told me beforehand. It was like, oh,

904
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: he's a dog he's so he turned on You're like, oh, like,

905
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: I get it. I don't say like he because he is.

906
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,479
Speaker 1: He's fairly than seeing him at the Senior Bowl. He's

907
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: just like this kind of yoked up pit, cool kind

908
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: of guy and dangerous upon Dvonte's Walker from uh Carro Like,

909
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: Carolina might not catch football, but he is fast as

910
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: all out. I need him to catch.

911
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 4: Don't Carolina with the guy don't catch.

912
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: The ball, you can run though. Jill and Polk from

913
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: what you have another dog man?

914
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 5: You've watched him, Yeah, he was. I like both of

915
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 5: those guys. I watched him in that bowl game. That

916
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: was the first time. You know, he kind of flashed.

917
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 5: I mean, but like that's what I say too, And

918
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 5: it's crazy and I don't want to be long on this.

919
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 5: They kind of discredit quarterbacks when they have good receivers.

920
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, like what what what matters is if if he's

921
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: good and I'm good, it all worked working? What the

922
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 3: hell you mean? At the Ken Dorsey he wasn't the

923
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: best guy.

924
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 5: Like like, oh, yeah, he had Tana, he had Tanner, Reggie,

925
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 5: Wayne and Andre Johnson.

926
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: That's what he threw to in two years. So what.

927
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: That's like an All Star?

928
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 5: But it's crazy, man, Like I was hearing how he

929
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 5: was talking about Pinnis talking about, well he had roam

930
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 5: and this guy and the one guy that look man,

931
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 5: y'all trying to lord his man status because of these injuries.

932
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 3: The dude precision and in these passes is like Pennick

933
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: unheard of. He hats putting shot, but he is.

934
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 4: He is skinny to me, like they The.

935
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 1: Thing about him that gets me is his footwork is

936
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: a little off sometimes but and he just relies all

937
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: on his arm and he can absolutely rip it.

938
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 5: He can throw his arm is like a I can't

939
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 5: say Patrick Mahons, but you know how Pat Mahons don't

940
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:20,479
Speaker 5: need to have.

941
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: His body, yeah, said, he still get the ball.

942
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 5: That's how I see Pennings that he's making throws where

943
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: the body is not set is sometimes bounds, and he's

944
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 5: still putting it on the dime, you know what I mean?

945
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: So who knows absolutely? And so then we got okay,

946
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: like how many receivers he run off? Probably fifteen? Yeah,

947
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: so there's more, there's more there. Jermaine Burton probably the

948
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: first round pick if he doesn't get in trouble. Jayleen

949
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 1: McMillan from udub Ye so super sick.

950
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 3: Right.

951
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a big guy. Yeah, very good. Jean Baker

952
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: probably the best route runner in the class. He's six

953
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: one ten, Another bigger body guy, Malik Washington from Virginia, Virginia. Yeah, Tanna,

954
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: this dude has feet for days.

955
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: I would say you a breakdance, ain't he?

956
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a breakdancer. Brendan Rice, I mean, Jerry Son,

957
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: he's signing a goat.

958
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 5: He looks like a I won't I won't mind having

959
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 5: Jay Rice in the late rounds.

960
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, step is finest.

961
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just reading these names. These are all guys. Like,

962
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: there's still five or six more guys. I sall third round. Great,

963
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: So you still ain't saying Wilson He's the next one.

964
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: Johnny Wilson, Jamari Thrash, Luke McCaffrey, Jacob Cowing. Other small guy,

965
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: Cornelius Johnson, a big old dude from Michigan. Like they're

966
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: so point of this right off?

967
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: About twenty five pairents.

968
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 5: Stop making your son go to wide receiver cas Too

969
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 5: many receivers in the drafts.

970
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 4: All the guy that used to play running back and

971
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: they like.

972
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: No dB even get paid. Yeah, I'm got Fletcher's son.

973
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: That's right, he's thank you, Jason. He's he's like built

974
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: like a running back. Yeah, but he's playing slot receiver.

975
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, fletch me up.

976
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 5: You know they're gonna get My son is like you Tennant.

977
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 5: I'm watching him run routes and I'm like, damn, it's

978
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 5: like Tann. I'm watching ten in all the years and

979
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 5: I coult on his film like no, no.

980
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: He can hear.

981
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: I'm like, fletch spot on, like from from this just

982
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 5: how cat quick he is and how he runs his

983
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: routes and how he's aggressively going out to the balls.

984
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, let you hit that on the head.

985
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: So all those guys you just right off, which is

986
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of them. I'm sorry for those at home.

987
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: Anybody those guys you're like, we want that guy here, anybody.

988
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: Yep, Xavier leg it.

989
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, if we could get him in the second round,

990
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 5: if he's around at that first second round pick, I'm

991
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 5: gonna call me on the go on the stage. I'm

992
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 5: going on the stage and say his name I don't

993
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 5: did it. I did it what years ago?

994
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: I do it again?

995
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 4: Time for you to do it.

996
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 6: Represent the three times Super Bowl chap America's real team.

997
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 6: You understand me, Jerry, get out of here, just like

998
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 6: you're cutting a problem with the thirty third pick.

999
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 3: So you're gonna be like Buddy who wanted him eighty

1000
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 3: eight for the cop pig that you know he went

1001
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 3: on there and talk some.

1002
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: Crap boy anybody you're you're saying, we gotta I.

1003
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: Like to get even though I feel about again.

1004
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's gonna be He's like going so high.

1005
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: I give me another name, lower, lower down, Johnny. I'm

1006
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: keep saying, Johnny will Johnny Wilson.

1007
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 3: He won't make it. To say that one Johnny wilt

1008
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: probably you don't think.

1009
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: I think he'll make it the second round, but I

1010
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: think the team will probably prioritize like a tackle or

1011
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: a head dresser. We only four peaks behind it, I know,

1012
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like it depends on the board,

1013
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: like they might have to look at really.

1014
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 5: The best player for that for that time. You know

1015
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 5: the safe message you need to tackle? Yeah, and you

1016
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 5: that receiver there, you think that's.

1017
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,360
Speaker 1: What I think I think the tackles are all going

1018
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: to go really early. There's probably ten guys, like starting

1019
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: caliber guys. They're gonna go super early. So if you

1020
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: don't get one of thirty six or forty, you ain't

1021
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: get him pretty slim. Yeah, and we just read off,

1022
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean twenty receivers, and I would be stoked if

1023
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: any one of them came here. Yeah, So for me,

1024
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: it's like Crowley, Yeah, Xavierly gets awesome. If Johnny Wilson

1025
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: came here, that'd be awesome, just to see how that work.

1026
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 3: Taking it. Were picking up free agencyceivers right now too.

1027
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, bring the rights out,

1028
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: you know, because I didn't know he was truly six three.

1029
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we need.

1030
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 3: We need it, like I don't change your body.

1031
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: I don't want the more sports cars in here unless

1032
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 2: they fought three sports cars. But I need I need

1033
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: an s u V. You understanding, I need to pick

1034
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: up truck. I need a big receiver with a big

1035
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: catch rate. Is that catches bad passes like he got

1036
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: a different between a short Defending a short receiver and defending.

1037
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 3: The Plexico birds.

1038
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: Plex don't need the ball to be thrown in track

1039
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: to him, he gonna crack that bad ball.

1040
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 5: I ain't when to cut you off. But I heard

1041
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 5: this on a I was riding somewhere. I think it

1042
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 5: was we missed them show this weekend on Friday. I

1043
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 5: think it was Friday. I don't know what that was,

1044
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 5: but it was talking about who was the last big

1045
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 5: receiver and they missed it because I'm like, wow, no

1046
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 5: one said the guy name it was Dotson.

1047
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, everybody forgets about Dodson.

1048
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 4: Dodson. Dodson was how big he was six three?

1049
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: He was six three, big dude, Big dude, Dawson.

1050
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 5: We have nine Dotson, Like I know thember I remember

1051
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 5: the one who they were.

1052
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 3: They basically ran up out of here.

1053
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 4: I know, because the one thing I did like about

1054
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: dots But I'm.

1055
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: Saying time, but he was the last big receiving live

1056
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: far in the draft.

1057
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: Every pay us but also to me, like Pierre was

1058
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: a big receiver though.

1059
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: You tlus, but I got it.

1060
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:15,879
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. It's like, yeah, we think

1061
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: we need a big ride receiver here. If you need

1062
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 1: a big receiver, you got it. You need a small receiver,

1063
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: you got it. When a guy runs a four to three.

1064
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: You got it. And it's going to be throughout the draft.

1065
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: And so you know, this all came about because the

1066
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: receiver market conversation. I think this is going to definitely

1067
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: negatively affect the receiver market moving forward to every receiver

1068
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: class is saturated like this looking for you.

1069
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Like it's going to have guys.

1070
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 5: When I say, the guys who are worthy, stay worthy

1071
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 5: because these young guys coming in for your spot.

1072
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1073
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely so I think that's going to do it for

1074
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,000
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1075
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:47,960
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1079
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1082
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,040
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