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Speaker 1: Good morning, swirld and welcome to the Nodunks podcast on

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Speaker 1: the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, January twenty seventh. I'm Jay

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Speaker 1: Skeet's roll in this morning with the bass Master ripping

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Speaker 1: them lips tray Herby, Hey, hey yo. We got the

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Speaker 1: international Man of Mystery taking it to the Max Lee

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Speaker 1: Ellis friends Zemly last, but not least, making this magic happen.

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Speaker 1: It's JD. Hello, there he is and here we are.

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Speaker 1: Lots lined up for this Wednesday podcast. We got some juicy,

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Speaker 1: juicy trade rumors to discuss. We're gonna break down last

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Speaker 1: night's games and later a special guest stopping by Blazer's

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Speaker 1: TV analyst Lamar Hurd. We'll swing by the podcast, but

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Speaker 1: before we get to any of that, we were absolutely

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Speaker 1: rocked by devastat news last night. I'm gonna try my

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Speaker 1: best to get through this, but longtime NBA reporter and

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Speaker 1: analyst Saiku Smith he died on Tuesday due to COVID

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Speaker 1: nineteen Seiku was just forty eight years old. He wrote

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Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis Star and then the AJC, covering the

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Speaker 1: Pacers and Hawks before joining Turner Sports in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine. Where he worked as a reporter and an

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Speaker 1: analyst for NBA dot Com and NBA TV. That's where

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Speaker 1: obviously we crossed paths with him. He was a mainstay

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Speaker 1: on Game Time, and he was mister MVP Ladder, and

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Speaker 1: he hosted the Hangtime podcast and the blog this is

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Speaker 1: crazy crazy news. Seiku is survived by his wife, Heather

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Speaker 1: and his three children. And our deepest condolences to Seikhu's family, friends,

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Speaker 1: and of course the entire Turner Sports team over there.

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Speaker 1: Crazy obviously, on a tough day yesterday with the anniversary

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Speaker 1: of Kobe and his daughters and everybody in the Helicrafters

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Speaker 1: crash passing, this news comes in later in the day

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Speaker 1: and obviously, having known him, all of us here on

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Speaker 1: this and task talked about him eloquently this morning on

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Speaker 1: what you need to know, very very difficultly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this was tragic. We heard he was in hospital.

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Speaker 2: I guess it was late last week and that was

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Speaker 2: obviously tough to hear, but you know, you obviously just

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Speaker 2: that news came through yesterday, it was a real blow,

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Speaker 2: real devastating blow. Ciccu all the tributes online, I felt

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Speaker 2: were something I could connect to, because in the time

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Speaker 2: much longer and much better than I guess we really

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Speaker 2: were talking for probably ten or fifteen minutes, just catching up,

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Speaker 2: and you know, my wife spoke to him, and I

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Speaker 1: How do you know him?

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Speaker 2: And I said, well, he works at Turner, but I mean,

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Speaker 2: just such a nice guy. And I said, he's one

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Speaker 2: his family. This is just such a tragic circumstance that

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Speaker 2: so much fun to be around, and we're definitely going

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Speaker 2: to miss him. Everyone in the NBA world is going

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Speaker 2: to miss him deeply because he was such a positive light.

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Speaker 2: I never saw him angry, I never saw him upset.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to miss the most about him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the outpouring of love and respect for Siku after

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Speaker 1: the news of his death, I think speaks to his

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Speaker 1: saw Matt Winer last night. Again, I'm sending all of

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Speaker 1: our love too people that knew him better, like Schumann.

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Speaker 3: He always had a smile on his face. You could

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Speaker 3: paying attention to what he was saying. You're seeing tributes

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Speaker 1: Saykhu would want to talk some hoops. There's no doubt

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Speaker 3: they reversed it. It's eventually a three point place. Suddenly

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Speaker 1: No, not at all. I would say another good thing

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Speaker 3: I bet you like it. If you're a big Warren

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was weird. I was I don't know why.

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Speaker 5: No, why would come on?

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Speaker 3: He wore one of the worst jerseys in NBA history.

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Speaker 1: It's weird when like a team goes so far away

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, our next game, Trey Young thirty eight

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they played hard. Terrence Mann played hard, But Kawhi,

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Speaker 3: Dere Hunter was looking a little busty last season, or

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Speaker 3: at the very least it was making the Tray Young

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Speaker 3: him Reddish, and they may and they are obviously there

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Speaker 3: been all right. Also got to mention whin Cappella almost

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Speaker 3: Click Cappella in the fourth quarter like crazy. I feel

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Somebody takes a shot from the right wing, You're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Somebody takes a bomb from way deep. Trey Young bounces

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Speaker 3: That man's going for the beef.

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Speaker 1: I love it, definitely is He's just coming up short.

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Speaker 1: He can smell the rost beef, but he can taste it.

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Speaker 1: That's what's going on here. Anything to add to this one, Ley.

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Speaker 2: Well, just to Trey Young is looking like he's got

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Speaker 2: games in a row thirty eight, forty three, and thirty

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Speaker 2: eight now against the Pistons and the Timberwolves. Pride of

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Speaker 2: this one, but the Clippers game last night, as you

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Speaker 2: He's getting back to the free throw line as well.

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Speaker 2: shaking himself out of that malay. He's there. They carried

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Speaker 1: Yeah, final, completely pointless note about Capella's rebounds tray, because

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, there's a little home cooked beef here

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Speaker 3: the tip and he is really like, he's just flying

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Speaker 1: From the final game here, Jazz rally passed the Knicks

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Speaker 1: Took down your Knicks there. Leey put up a good fight.

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports had a great rite up on the Jazz

428
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Speaker 1: and what they're doing this year. Offensively, they were like

429
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Speaker 1: first and three pointers made, third and three point attempts,

430
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Speaker 1: and second in three point percentage. And this was a

431
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Speaker 1: night lee where Mitchell didn't have a going and they

432
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Speaker 1: still get it done because Conley Bogdanovitch, especially in the

433
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Speaker 1: third quarter, they sort of took over. The three started dropping,

434
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Speaker 1: and again Royce O'Neil, who not only played awesome defense,

435
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Speaker 1: he had a career high twenty points. I had to

436
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Speaker 1: fact check that twenty points. You know, you would have

437
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Speaker 1: just thought Roys O'Neil would have a I don't know

438
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Speaker 1: what twenty five in him somewhere gets a ton of

439
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Speaker 1: minus one night he set a career high and he

440
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 1: played really well. I thought he did a great job

441
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 1: on Randall at times too. He is an awesome defender

442
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 1: because he can play a lot of guys like one

443
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Speaker 1: through four quite easily.

444
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Speaker 2: I think that's the thing. They've got those guys like

445
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 2: Joe Ingles and Bogdanovich who are really good offensively just

446
00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 2: because they just can be out on the floor and

447
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 2: hit those shots. But then you've got a guy like

448
00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,320
Speaker 2: O'Neil who can also hit it, but defensively he's just fantastic.

449
00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: But this is the Jazz at their best, when they

450
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 2: look great, their defenses in sync, and then their offense

451
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 2: they just come down and everyone. It feels like in

452
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 2: shoot three. He's got off to a slow start, no

453
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 2: doubt about it. But you just sort of wondered if

454
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Speaker 2: if Boston Powers was punching a little above his way today.

455
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Speaker 1: He does like playing the Jazz.

456
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Speaker 2: He had a great game against the Jazz, baby, Yeah,

457
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Speaker 2: But but also Riddy Gobert almost leros beef too with

458
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Speaker 2: nineteen rebounds himself, So yeah, good good win for the

459
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Speaker 2: You could hear Tom Thibodeau, I think for the first

460
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Speaker 2: time this season coming through on the broadcast there. Oh yeah,

461
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 2: you could hear him a couple of times. There was

462
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Speaker 2: one time when Jordan Clarkson was on, no hang on,

463
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Speaker 2: Austin Rivers was on.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was cook him, cook him. What are you

465
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Speaker 1: saying something?

466
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Speaker 2: I couldn't quite make it out, but it was clearly

467
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 2: Tibs's voice. So good to have him back on the sidelines,

468
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,080
Speaker 2: screaming and ranting like a crazy man.

469
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, the Knicks were like shooting lights out in

470
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Speaker 1: the first half. They were like fifty five percent or

471
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Speaker 1: maybe fifty six percent, and then they made twelve total

472
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Speaker 1: baskets in the second half. They scored thirteen points over

473
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Speaker 1: the final twelve minutes. That's where the Jazz ran away

474
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Speaker 1: with this one.

475
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Speaker 5: Trey.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were a newspaper man, you would call

477
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: this one a tale of two halves because Austin Rivers

478
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Speaker 3: was going off. But it didn't last. But nice win

479
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Speaker 3: for the Jazz on a night when Mike or Donovan

480
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: Mitchell only scored nine points. To be able to get

481
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Speaker 3: a come from behind victory with all the other depth

482
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Speaker 3: pieces on your team playing well, that's great news for

483
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Speaker 3: the Jazz. They've been doing it with the three point

484
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Speaker 3: shot for the majority of this season, only made five

485
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Speaker 3: in the first half, made ten in the second half.

486
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Speaker 3: That was the difference.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now the Jazz I believe have moved up

488
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Speaker 1: into second place in the Western Conference with the Clippers

489
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Speaker 1: losing them being depleted there in that lost to the

490
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Speaker 1: Hawks and the jazz continuing to win make it nine straight.

491
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Speaker 1: We will get to some rumor because Sham's coming through

492
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: with that inside pass on the athletic Yesterdady. He was

493
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Speaker 1: dropping some names, some juicy names that we got to

494
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Speaker 1: talk about. But let's get to our special guests because

495
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Speaker 1: he's joining us super early on the West coast, and

496
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Speaker 1: we're really appreciative there he is. It's Blazers TV analyst

497
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Speaker 1: Lamar Hurd. What's up, my man?

498
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Speaker 5: What's that fellas? How you doing true honor to be

499
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Speaker 5: able to join you guys.

500
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Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Again, it is very early where

501
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: you're coming from, so we thank you for jumping on here.

502
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: And well, let's just get right to it. I mean,

503
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Speaker 1: the way this happened is because you are the weggie whisperer, Lamar.

504
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 1: There's been four weggies from the Blazers and you're giving

505
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: us a shout out every time there's something about you

506
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: that ball's getting stuck.

507
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been crazy, Like the amount of weggies we've

508
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Speaker 6: had this year are I think more than we've had

509
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Speaker 6: in any other season and we're only a month in.

510
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Speaker 6: Especially like the last one we got, I think it

511
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 6: happened aful of like a block yep, And I don't know.

512
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Speaker 5: That that's happened in any of our games before.

513
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 6: It probably has, but I just can't remember that, And

514
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,919
Speaker 6: you guys are first ones that I remember talking about it,

515
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 6: you know, Like my first year in the league was

516
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 6: the twenty sixteen twenty seventeen season, and for me, coming

517
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 6: from the college game, I hadn't, like I watched NBA,

518
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 6: you know, most basketball players do, but I hadn't really

519
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 6: dived into it very deeply. So like there's little things

520
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 6: that I don't know, like what are the hot shows,

521
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 6: what some of the the the info behind the scenes,

522
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 6: those kind of things. And so I got on to

523
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Speaker 6: you guys at the starters, and you guys just bought

524
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Speaker 6: so much joy to people, like with your show and

525
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 6: talking about the weggie, and that was the first time

526
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Speaker 6: I feel like I had heard it like all the

527
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Speaker 6: years I played.

528
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Speaker 5: Basketball, I don't remember ever hearing that turn.

529
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 6: I was talking about it and it stuck and it fits.

530
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Speaker 6: So anytime I see it in games like I got

531
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Speaker 6: to give credit. Where's the memes of the Weggie?

532
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Speaker 1: Oh, we really appreciate it. We got a big kick

533
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Speaker 1: out of it. Anytime you drop that and you're one

534
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Speaker 1: of the ones like the rare guys that like a

535
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Speaker 1: lot of people know us from the starters, some you know,

536
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960
Speaker 1: so in tune with us moving to no dunks and

537
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: part of the athletic. But you're right on it. That's

538
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Speaker 1: why we really appreciate it because like most of times

539
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: it'd be like, oh, the four guys at the starters

540
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: and then they leave it at that. But you're dropping

541
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Speaker 1: the no dunk, so hey, like while you're talking about

542
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Speaker 1: how did you get into you know, you know, television

543
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Speaker 1: broadcasting and covering games like that?

544
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's really weird. It's a long story that would

545
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 6: take up a lot of time in terms of how

546
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 6: that all came about, but basically what happened in two

547
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 6: thousand and seven, I'm basically retired from playing. I just

548
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Speaker 6: played a year overseas in Germany. Came back to the

549
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Speaker 6: Portland area because I went to Oregon State University. Portland's

550
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Speaker 6: about ninety minutes north of Corvallis, which is the city

551
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Speaker 6: where Oregon State is, and I started working with a

552
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Speaker 6: group of kids in youth basketball. And the reason I

553
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Speaker 6: did it was because I grew up in Houston, Texas,

554
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Speaker 6: and my childhood basketball coach is probably the most influential

555
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Speaker 6: person in my life because I was a kid that,

556
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Speaker 6: like you guys, loved basketball through and through and would

557
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Speaker 6: do anything for it. I watched every game, I knew

558
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Speaker 6: all the players, I knew all the stats.

559
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Speaker 5: I just loved it.

560
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Speaker 6: So when I met my basketball coach as a sixth

561
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Speaker 6: grade kid, he was a great influence to me. And

562
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Speaker 6: so what ended up happening is I moved from southwest

563
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Speaker 6: Houston to this little town north of Houston called Cleveland,

564
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Speaker 6: Texas to go to this tiny one a private school

565
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Speaker 6: that had about one hundred thirty kids k through twelve.

566
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Speaker 6: But I had the time of my life because the

567
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Speaker 6: coach had to keep it at the gym. We had

568
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Speaker 6: a good time. We always played, and so I spent

569
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Speaker 6: seven years with this guy, and once I got a

570
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Speaker 6: little bit older, I realized how much. He had really

571
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Speaker 6: impacted my life just through my love for basketball. So

572
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Speaker 6: fast forward to I spent four years at Oregon State.

573
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Speaker 6: I spent one year overseas in Germany and come back

574
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Speaker 6: to the US just for a quick pause. And a

575
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Speaker 6: friend of mine, actually my college roommate, said, while you're

576
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Speaker 6: in town, you know, before you go back overseas or

577
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 6: at the time, I had an invite to get involved

578
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 6: in the D League, and so my friend said, well,

579
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Speaker 6: before you go do that, why don't you go work

580
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Speaker 6: out at this gym called the Hoop. It's a six

581
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Speaker 6: court facility in Beaverton, organ which is where the Nike

582
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 6: headquarters are west of Portland, and you know, just work

583
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Speaker 6: out for free, because that's what we're all looking for,

584
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 6: like college. And so I did it, and while I

585
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 6: was in the gym, I was like, oh, I love this,

586
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Speaker 6: Like I feel like I'm able to do for these

587
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Speaker 6: kids what my coach did for me all those years.

588
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Speaker 5: And I like retired.

589
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Speaker 6: So when I did that, guys in two thousand and seven,

590
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Speaker 6: I thought, there's no way I'll be on TV. I

591
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Speaker 6: always wanted to be on TV. I wanted to be

592
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Speaker 6: an analyst. I wanted to share my love for the

593
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Speaker 6: game through that medium.

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Speaker 1: But did you take classes when you were at school,

595
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Speaker 1: like communication class?

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Speaker 5: Communication classes?

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Speaker 6: I did, and you know, the biggest thing I think

598
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Speaker 6: I got from those classes was just the understanding of

599
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Speaker 6: how and why and asking all those.

600
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Speaker 5: Extra questions and going beneath the surface.

601
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Speaker 6: But I thought all those classes were for waste when

602
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Speaker 6: I decided to retire at twenty three with a up

603
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Speaker 6: and down career in college and a shortened professional career.

604
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 6: But Oregon State University's administration they asked me to be

605
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Speaker 6: a part of a coach search that they were doing

606
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Speaker 6: two thousand and eight, and I joined to do that,

607
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 6: and during that whole process, they asked me, do you

608
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,159
Speaker 6: still want to get in TV. I said yes, but

609
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Speaker 6: I have a no idea how. They ended up connecting

610
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Speaker 6: me with Fox Sports Northwest, which was covering all the

611
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 6: regional games in our area, and I had a meeting

612
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Speaker 6: with the executive director and two weeks later I was hired.

613
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Speaker 6: And that was my introduction to TV in two thousand

614
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Speaker 6: and eight, and since then it's just been going from

615
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Speaker 6: Fox Sports Northwest to Root Sports Northwest, to the Pac

616
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 6: twelve network to some games at ESPN to twenty sixteen,

617
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Speaker 6: the Blazers called me unexpectedly and here we are.

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Speaker 1: Now wow, and so you obviously must love it.

619
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. I do.

620
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 6: I love anything with basketball, but specifically as it pertains

621
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Speaker 6: to being with the Blazers. I've been in this city

622
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 6: in Portland area since two thousand and seven, and I've

623
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 6: made a lot of context, a lot of relationships, and

624
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 6: like I talked about the game of basketball, you got

625
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 6: a lot of influence through you can have a lot

626
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 6: of impact. I love our organizations mission, you know, it's

627
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 6: really about impacting people through our platform.

628
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 5: Were the biggest show in town here. The show has

629
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 5: been that way for a long time.

630
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Speaker 6: So in addition to the cool basketball that we get

631
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Speaker 6: to watch and be a part of, we get to

632
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Speaker 6: do a lot of really neat things in our community.

633
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Speaker 5: So it's been a really nice fit for me.

634
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Speaker 3: I think your love of the game really shines through

635
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 3: on the broadcast. You're obviously having fun calling these games.

636
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: We got questions from some of our fans. They're asking,

637
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 3: is there beef between you and Jordan Kent. I think

638
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: he's a duck, right, a beaver versus duck beef.

639
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 5: No, there's no beef. There's no beef. We had a

640
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 5: good time. We actually we found.

641
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Speaker 6: This out the first week of doing games that we

642
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 6: are the only play by play analyst combo that's ever

643
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 6: played against one another. Oh wow, I was told in history.

644
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Speaker 6: I don't know if that's true. I would guess you

645
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 6: guys whould know that's for sure.

646
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was told that. But it was fun.

647
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 6: We have some really good games here the Oregon State.

648
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 6: Oregon rivalries are really really big deal. Games are always packed,

649
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 6: it's always high energy, and we had a lot of fun,

650
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 6: good matchups during that. But yeah, we we were able

651
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 6: to set all that aside in order to provide a

652
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 6: troph What.

653
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: Was it What was it like though for you going

654
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: from a legend in Kevin Kevin Collaboro there to joining Jordan,

655
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: Because it must have been a big transition. Kevin's been

656
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: around the game forever and then you're going up against

657
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: the guy you played against. What So what was that

658
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: for you like as far as you know that relationship

659
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: and building up that chemistry.

660
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 5: Great question.

661
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 6: Well, the benefit that Jordan and I had is Jordan

662
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 6: has been a part of the organization since the same

663
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 6: time I've been apart, so I came in.

664
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 5: In twenty sixteen to be the TV analyst.

665
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 6: He came in in twenty sixteen to be the studio host.

666
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 6: So we've worked together, like with our draft show and

667
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 6: different things, and you know, so we see each other

668
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 6: on game nights. So it's not like it was kind

669
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 6: of like a new guy coming in, right. I thought

670
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 6: he's done a great job coming in, especially considering the circumstances.

671
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 5: His first games, guys were in the bubble.

672
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 6: So those first games were us calling from studio under

673
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 6: those circumstances, you know, not only with what was going

674
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 6: on in the NBA, but just in the world at

675
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 6: the time. There's a lot of stuff going on and

676
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 6: that could be tough for a new play by play

677
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 6: play to navigate.

678
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 5: But I feel like it's going well.

679
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 6: But as it pertains to Kevin, Kevin is man, he's

680
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 6: just one of a kind.

681
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 5: He really is. I had the benefit of working.

682
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 6: With him a few times in the college game before

683
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 6: we joined the Blazers together we both worked at the

684
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 6: Pac twelve network. But some of the things like that

685
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 6: guy says during the broadcast is amazing. It really is,

686
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 6: like you got to go back sometimes and listen to

687
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 6: it and watch a game, Like I remember one thing

688
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 6: sticks out to me to this day. The Blazers were

689
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 6: playing Minnesota and Andrew Wiggins went to the basket for

690
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 6: something and he's like jumping for an offensive rebound, and

691
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 6: Kevin is like describing it, you know how Kevin talks

692
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 6: like fast, like goes to the basket, you know, and

693
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 6: like he can say everything and it's clear, and he

694
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 6: says he jumps out of his skin, and then he

695
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 6: like keeps talking and like as he said, the dude

696
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 6: jumped out of his skin and it's simple.

697
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 5: But who thinks that in the flower? You know, like

698
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: it didn't even stand out.

699
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 6: And I'll never forget that because it was like the

700
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 6: wildest thing is the skin, That's it. But I was like,

701
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 6: I never, I haven't heard that the way you just

702
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 6: said it, and like you were just talking about the

703
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 6: shotty shot, and then it turned into.

704
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: That he's he's incredible. And I know a lot of.

705
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 6: Times people who've had like hall of fame careers, you know,

706
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 6: it's easy to go and say and he's a Hall

707
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 6: of Fame person and that's not always the case. But

708
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 6: but Kevin, it really is. Kevin is somebody who really

709
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 6: cares for people, understands some of his fortunes in life,

710
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 6: and was always someone who was looking to try to

711
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 6: improve other people's lives. Like we had countless conversations on

712
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 6: the airplane from one city to the next or in

713
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 6: an opposing team's arenas media dining room before a game,

714
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 6: where the conversation may start off with who's going to

715
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 6: start tonight for the Blazers because there might be an

716
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 6: injury to what's going on in the streets in Detroit

717
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 6: and what's going on here and there, and it's just

718
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 6: all over the place. So I really appreciated that about

719
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 6: him because he's just a super authentic person that just cares,

720
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 6: cares about life and is exceptional at his job.

721
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: That's awesome to hear. What's it been like this year

722
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: for you to call these games remotely? I mean, that's

723
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: got to be strange. And then back into the bubble

724
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: as well, Like that's got to be a different experience.

725
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: I would assume a very I mean, I hate doing

726
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: this like we got to do on Zoom. You know

727
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: you we usually get together obviously in a studio and

728
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: get to shoot the shit like person a person face

729
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: to face. But I's got to assume it's a little

730
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: more difficult, right, it's.

731
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 6: So weird and it is more difficult, and it's just strange,

732
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 6: and it's just what it is right now. This is

733
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 6: a sign of the times, and knowing that everybody has

734
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 6: to go through it just makes it a little easier

735
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 6: to just deal with and realize, like, I don't have

736
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 6: anything to complain about. Like, first of all, we still

737
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 6: get an opportunity to go and call games and be

738
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 6: employed and do those kind of things. But just even

739
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 6: going into the arena like it used to be, like

740
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 6: we could walk literally anywhere we wanted to go in

741
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 6: the arena, by the locker room, up in the stands,

742
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,959
Speaker 6: by the suites, wherever. We have keykodes that can get

743
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 6: us into any door in the arena. Now you go in,

744
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 6: your path is charted. It's straight to one spot, yeah, great,

745
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 6: to this elevator, only straight to these seats.

746
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: So just even from that standpoint is different.

747
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 6: And then the actual games, it's now the crazy thing

748
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 6: is now seems normal now, guys. I feel like once

749
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 6: fans do come back and things go back to what

750
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 6: it used to be, like, there's going to be an adjustment,

751
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 6: at least for me. To that because I've got use Yeah,

752
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 6: because I've gotten so used to like how we do

753
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 6: it now, Like it'll be a quick adjustment because it's

754
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 6: the natural way. But you kind of settled into a

755
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 6: comfort zone with where things are now.

756
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 5: You're used to in no fans there, you're used to.

757
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 6: Like for me, one thing I really enjoyed before games

758
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: is like talking to the officials. So I'll go and

759
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 6: I'll ask the official certain questions just because I enjoy

760
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 6: like learning the nuances and their rules and the different

761
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 6: interpretations and stuff like that, and so like I haven't

762
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 6: been able to do that since the bubblem, And so

763
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 6: there's things that happen on the court sometimes where we

764
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 6: can't hear what they're talking about, or there might be

765
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 6: a call that if things are normal, I would go

766
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 6: and ask an official the next game, hey did.

767
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 5: You see our last game?

768
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 6: And they'll say yes, because usually they watch all the games,

769
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 6: And I say, Okay, what did you think about this call?

770
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 5: And why was it called this way?

771
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 6: And so like just not being able to have those

772
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 6: kind of conversations, not being able to talk to like

773
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 6: I haven't spoken to any of the players.

774
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was wondering because I assume you

775
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: must have used to do that all the time, right, Yeah.

776
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 5: The player, here's the assistant coaches. The assistant coaches is

777
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 5: a big one. Like one of the assistant coaches, he

778
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 5: and I we have dinner a lot during road games,

779
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 5: so in the media dining room, like.

780
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 6: He'll finish his work on the court coming to the

781
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 6: media dining room.

782
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 5: We got kind of like a set time. We'll come

783
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 5: in there talk, just hang.

784
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 6: Out and just little things like that, like you get

785
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 6: little nuggets of information and know, you know what the

786
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 6: game plan.

787
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 5: Is for the night. So yeah, all of that. It's

788
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 5: it is difficult.

789
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 6: It increases your prep before you go to the arena

790
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 6: because there's some things I might be looking at it

791
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 6: in a game notes or whatever, and I'd be like whatever,

792
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 6: I'll just ask Dominique Wilkins when I get to the arena.

793
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 6: I as Sean Elliott when I get there. You know,

794
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 6: those kind of things and you don't really have that.

795
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 6: But what some of us broadcasters have started doing is

796
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 6: we've set up calls on game day so we'll just

797
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 6: have like a quick fifteen to thirty minute call with

798
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 6: the radio and TV team go over some things. It's

799
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 6: still not the same, but it's a decent replacement.

800
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Let's talk about your Blazer starts to

801
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: the season. How would you grade it so far? I

802
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: know you guys been once again, it feels like decimated

803
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: by some injuries here, But like, what are you grading

804
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: it through, like really the first quarter of this season?

805
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, I don't tough tough.

806
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 6: I don't know if I give it a specific letter

807
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 6: grade because some of it's incomplete too.

808
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: I'll give CJ McCallum a A plus. He got off to

809
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 5: the best.

810
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 6: Start of his career, the way he was shooting the ball,

811
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 6: averaging five million three's a game.

812
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 5: He's shooting more about eleven a game. He was leading and.

813
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 6: Scoring for a while, like we were I think seven

814
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 6: eight games in and he was the leading scorer of

815
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 6: the team, which since I've been there, that's never happened

816
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 6: and didn't happen before that because he was only in

817
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 6: his second year as a full time starter when I

818
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 6: first joined the team.

819
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 5: So it sucks because there's.

820
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 6: This feeling around Portland that as soon as good things

821
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 6: start to happen, like CJ having an All Star career

822
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 6: his first I think it would have been his first

823
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 6: selection this year.

824
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 5: Something happens, you know, like a couple of years ago

825
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 5: as the.

826
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 6: Team is playing great and then u Si Nurkic goes

827
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 6: out with that leg injury and the teams still made

828
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 6: the Western Conference Finals run. But right now, defense is

829
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 6: the big issue and guys were bought in specifically to

830
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 6: help fortify that end of the floor, Derek Jones, junior,

831
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 6: Robert Covington specifically, and it just hasn't happened yet. Coach

832
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 6: Stotts has kind of tinkered with a few different defenses,

833
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 6: trying to be a little more aggressive.

834
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 5: And years past the Blazers have been more.

835
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 6: In a conservative end, dropping the big and pick and roll,

836
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 6: you know, wings, not being really chancy and risky on

837
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 6: the wings defensively, but they've tried to implement a bit

838
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 6: of a more aggressive approach at times. And look, this

839
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 6: is the last year where you want to try to

840
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 6: implement things where you didn't have.

841
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 5: Trend in camp practice is a few and far between.

842
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:53,919
Speaker 5: So it's just rocky right now.

843
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 6: But I've been here since twenty sixteen, and it feels

844
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 6: like each season when the team hits a valley like this,

845
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 6: there's a peak right around the corner.

846
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 5: There's something that goes on.

847
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 6: Last year, the team had injuries right out the gate,

848
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 6: Carmelo Anthony joins the team, Damian Lillard loses his mind

849
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 6: in place his score basketball from forty feet with regularity,

850
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 6: So like, I don't get shaken during these times. Like

851
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 6: for me, it's always kind of like a bit of

852
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,479
Speaker 6: an adventure of Okay, what's going to happen next, because

853
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 6: you know something good is going to happen because that's

854
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 6: what history would indicate.

855
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 3: Who is somebody that you're looking at to kind of

856
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: step up in the lieu of these injuries. You know,

857
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: we saw Anthony Simons just had an awesome game earlier

858
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: this week. Gary Trent Junior was obviously humongous in the bubble.

859
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 3: There's some young guys that are on this team that

860
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 3: we've seen have flashes of some serious potential, and it

861
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: seems like the Blazers are going to need it right now.

862
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 3: Like you're saying, literal will take it to the next level,

863
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 3: But there's got to be some other help for him

864
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: as well.

865
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, now you're right, raight, Anthony Simons is definitely the

866
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 6: one because everybody's been waiting on it. He's someone who

867
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 6: the players have spoken. I don't know if you guys

868
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,439
Speaker 6: have seen over the last couple of years things that

869
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 6: the players have said about them, things that Neil o'she

870
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 6: the president of Basketball Operations, has said. But Neil basically

871
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 6: said a couple of seasons ago that Efferny is as

872
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 6: gifted a player as anyone he's ever drafted, and that

873
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 6: includes the guys at the Clippers, Blake Griffin, it includes

874
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 6: Damon CJ.

875
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 5: And so that's pretty high praise.

876
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 6: And you know, a fan base hears that and they

877
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 6: don't like piece it out word for word. The fact

878
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 6: that he said he's as gifted said he's necessarily right

879
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 6: now as good.

880
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 5: And so for a while now, the fan.

881
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 6: Base has been waiting to see, Okay, let's see Damian

882
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 6: Lilla part two. And that hasn't been the case for Anthony.

883
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 6: With consistency, he has shown and flashes some really good stuff.

884
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 5: But he had a tough spell going back to last season.

885
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 6: He got off to a good start in the season

886
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 6: and then there was a significant dip and then Gary

887
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: Trent Junior emerged. But Anthrony's definitely the first one because

888
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 6: the ball is in the guard's hands a lot here

889
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 6: and they need.

890
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 5: Him to be aggressive, they need him to score.

891
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 6: Another person who's a more proven commodity is Rodney Hood.

892
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 6: So Rodney didn't play last game, had a bit of

893
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 6: a thigh contusion. But the game before that against the Spurs,

894
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 6: he had twenty one points, was clearly his best game

895
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 6: of the year. Before that game, he had totaled eighteen

896
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 6: points for the whole season, and then he surcrassed that

897
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 6: in one game with the Spurs. Rodney is coming off

898
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 6: the Achilles injury and he's starting to look like himself.

899
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 6: And I'm really I've been intrigued by Rodney since he

900
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 6: joined the team because he came over from Cleveland, but

901
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 6: before that he was with the Jazz, and I remember

902
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 6: he had a year with the Jazz. He was out

903
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 6: averaging seventeen points a game in about twenty eight minutes

904
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 6: a game for a team that was like twenty fifth

905
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 6: in pace. So I started to think, well, if you

906
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 6: throw him in this offense with Coach Stotts and alongside

907
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 6: Dame and CJ, and now the case would be out.

908
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 5: CJ.

909
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 6: I think he could be a twenty point per game score,

910
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 6: like if he's healthy and feels good enough to so

911
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 6: I'm really curious to see how the next few weeks

912
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 6: look for him.

913
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you don't never get out on the court and

914
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: just shows coach thoughts to that jumper of yours are

915
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: still full.

916
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 6: No, maybe if the backcourt wasn't what it was, I

917
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 6: feel a little more confident and bolden.

918
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 5: To do something like that. But no, no, these guys

919
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 5: are so good, man.

920
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 6: I have enough fun just sitting back on the sideline

921
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 6: and watch.

922
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say with the Blazers, you gotta

923
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: start working on like your post game if they need

924
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: a big guy, if anything, because all the injuries to

925
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: Collins and NRK and stuff like that.

926
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, yeah, no, they I'm curious to just see.

927
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 5: I really am man.

928
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 6: I Like I said, every season since I've been here,

929
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 6: when something has happened, there's been something on the.

930
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 5: Other side of it. So I'm just waiting to see

931
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 5: what it is.

932
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: Staying positive. Well, we asked some of our fans on Twitter.

933
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: You know, you got a question for Lamar hit us

934
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: up and we got some good ones. So I'm gonna

935
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: throw a couple at you At mindset. Vegan said, you

936
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: always give hints of your playing days. I would love

937
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: to hear more. Who was your biggest competition, what was

938
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: your greatest playing moment? And give us an OSU plug.

939
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: Why should athletes want to go play for the Beaver?

940
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 1: So sort of three questions in there about your your

941
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: playing career in college, and then like you did, say

942
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 1: you played a professionally overseas one year.

943
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 6: Well we'll start with the last question because that's the

944
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 6: easiest one to answer. You go to Oregon State because

945
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 6: Corvallis is the best college town in the Pac twelve

946
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 6: and the atmosphere, great school, great facilities. The upgrades have

947
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 6: been crazy, Like since I left school, it looks like

948
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 6: an entirely different campus. But really it is just a

949
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 6: great place. It if it fits your personality, if your

950
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 6: personality is one kind of like mine, where you know,

951
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 6: just kind of chill, laid back, not looking for a

952
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: whole lot.

953
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 5: In the form of.

954
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 6: Needing, I guess being in a city atmosphere, some schools

955
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 6: are in the city area. Then I really I don't

956
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 6: know a better place for you. In terms of competition.

957
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 6: Best competition U in Germany. So I played in first

958
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 6: division Germany when I was over there, and so that's

959
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 6: a that's a solid league and there were several former

960
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 6: pros there. I think that year one of the better

961
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 6: players I played against was William Avery.

962
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 5: You guys remember him from Dual Yeah, yeah, he was

963
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 5: over there, played for Berlin.

964
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 6: He was on a team with Chris Owens from Texas

965
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 6: and they had somebody else on their team that was

966
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 6: really good, but they were one of the best teams.

967
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 6: Trying to think who else had a team with names

968
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 6: that you would recognize. That might take me a little

969
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 6: bit of time, But what.

970
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: Was your what was your Albundi moment?

971
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 7: Then?

972
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: What was your greatest basketball moment? And you can go

973
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: back to high school, it can be college, it can

974
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:51,959
Speaker 1: be overseas. What would you say this.

975
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 5: Greatest basketball moment?

976
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 6: Well, the one that in Texas that I was known

977
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 6: for for the longest, and there's probably people still down

978
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 6: there that remember this. I had a teammate that scored

979
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 6: one hundred and one points in a game. His name

980
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 6: is Cedri Kensley. And this is the wild part about it,

981
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 6: he did it the same night Dewan Wagner scored one.

982
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: Hundred points same.

983
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 6: That night, and so in that game, I had like

984
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 6: thirty three assists.

985
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 5: And it was. It was a Texas record. It might

986
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 5: still be.

987
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 6: I have no clue, but for I guess five to

988
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 6: ten years after that happened, like there would be people

989
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 6: that who were familiar with Texas basketball that would connect

990
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 6: me with that, like right away, like you to do that, y'all.

991
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 6: Y'all had one hundred and one points and you had

992
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 6: thirty something assists, and it was in It was actually

993
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 6: in the Texas Museum in Waco. There's this museum that

994
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 6: houses basketball stuff and I was in.

995
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 5: There, and I still might be.

996
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 3: I just don't know, that's going to be a tough

997
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 3: record to beat.

998
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: I would think, Yeah, that's how many of these assists were,

999
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: just like hare shoot it, Hare shoot it, Hare shoot it.

1000
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't remember. I don't know.

1001
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 6: A long time ago, i'd say probably half of them, right,

1002
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 6: probably half of them.

1003
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: But this kid, this kid was like really good. He

1004
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 5: was a good player.

1005
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 6: He ended he went to the University of Houston, but

1006
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 6: he had scholarship offers from like he could have gone

1007
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 6: to Arizona. Wow, he had a lot of offers, but

1008
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 6: wanted to stay hometown. So I was glad I played

1009
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 6: with him.

1010
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 5: Aside from that, I would say maybe in college.

1011
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 6: There were some good players I got a chance to

1012
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 6: play against there. I felt like the the toughest guy

1013
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 6: to defend for me was my freshman season because as

1014
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 6: a freshman it's always just tough learning defense anyway, It's

1015
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 6: like being a rookie in the NBA.

1016
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 5: Luke Ridnauer played for the Oregon Ducks and.

1017
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 6: They gave him like the ultra green light and they

1018
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 6: ran this pick and roll in the middle of the floor.

1019
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 6: It was the first time that I had ever dealt

1020
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 6: with that, Like I never dealt with that in high

1021
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 6: school or even in AAU, And here I am defended

1022
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 6: against this dude who was a lottery pick and he

1023
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 6: just had the screen in the middle and he could

1024
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 6: always get open and shake free. He was a good

1025
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 6: when Salim Stoomer at Arizona was a really really tough player.

1026
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 5: Always want to give him his due because some.

1027
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 6: People forgotten about him, you know, like his senior year,

1028
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 6: he was shooting better than JJ Reddick was.

1029
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: He was athletic, he could do a lot of different things.

1030
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 6: And then the Washington Huskies, so people heard about the

1031
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 6: Washington Hookie Huskies with Brandon Roy and Will Conroy and

1032
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 6: Nate Robinson, some of those guys they had, But I

1033
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 6: feel like our team is the one that made them

1034
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 6: good because my sophomore year in college, those guys started

1035
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 6: out conference play either OH to four or OH to five,

1036
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 6: and they like were good, but they weren't winning. And

1037
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 6: they were playing a game against US. It was a

1038
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 6: home game for US. We were up a like points

1039
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 6: in the second half. They came all the way back

1040
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 6: and then Nate Robinson hissed this shot at the buzzer,

1041
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 6: the tidy game.

1042
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 5: Send it in overtime.

1043
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 6: They ended up winning the game in overtime, and then

1044
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 6: from there they just skyrocketed.

1045
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 5: They ended up making the n C Double A Tournament

1046
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 5: that season, and.

1047
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 6: Then the next season they ended up being a number

1048
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 6: one seed in the NC Double A Tournament and their

1049
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 6: program never looked back.

1050
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 5: But that was the start of it.

1051
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 8: Whenever I see Lorenzo Omar, who was their coach at

1052
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 8: the time and now's at Pepperdine, I'm Lorenzo, you you

1053
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 8: owe me some money.

1054
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: Incredible. A couple more questions, this one from it. I

1055
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: like this one from at NBA Underscore. Harvey, you often

1056
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: call Damian Lillard the best leader in sports Lamar a

1057
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: statement that Harvey agrees with you being a Blazers fan,

1058
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: being around the team, though at least when you could

1059
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: be over the last couple of years. What does that

1060
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: sort of leadership look like in person from a guy

1061
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: like Damon.

1062
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 6: It's tough to explain because when you explain it, it

1063
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 6: kind of minimizes it to me because as I explained it,

1064
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 6: the thing that would make sense for someone hearing it

1065
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 6: is to attach it with what's the closest thing that

1066
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 6: you've seen that sounds like what I'm talking about. He's

1067
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 6: he's an everyday person in the literal sense.

1068
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: He shows up every day for people.

1069
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 6: He's He's extremely observant. He realizes the level of influence

1070
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 6: he has and he uses that for good. Like he's

1071
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 6: not looking to wield his power in order to be

1072
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 6: self serving if it's going to be a detriment to

1073
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 6: somebody else. He recognizes situations. So I'll give like one

1074
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 6: really quick example. Last year when we were in Phoenix,

1075
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 6: Dame was going to this basketball skills clinic that his trainer,

1076
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 6: Phil Beckner, who's another great dude, was putting on, and

1077
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 6: Phil invited me to come out to the clinic and

1078
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 6: so I ended up going and when I got there,

1079
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 6: I walked into this gym and it's a gym full

1080
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 6: of coaches, Arizona coaches, high school coaches, just junior high,

1081
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 6: high school whatever. And there was this young man who

1082
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 6: wandered into the gym. And I was standing by the

1083
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 6: doors like I was off behind the scenes. And when

1084
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,239
Speaker 6: a young man stumbled in, he saw me and he said,

1085
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 6: he said, what's going on in here? And I said,

1086
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 6: it's a coaches clinic, you know, like what are you doing?

1087
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 6: Because you look like a high school kid. And he's like, Oh,

1088
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 6: I'm just here trying. I was trying to get to

1089
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 6: a practice. I got a practice going on, and we

1090
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 6: just started talking a little bit, and I could tell

1091
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 6: like the young man I could tell like he loved basketball,

1092
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 6: seemed impressionable, and so I knew, like I'm sitting there

1093
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 6: looking at my phone, I knew, like, oh, Dame's going

1094
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 6: to be here like any minute, And this is the

1095
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 6: kind of young man that if DY could like just

1096
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 6: talk to for like ten seconds, like it would change

1097
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 6: the dude's life. Like it made me think of me

1098
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 6: when I was in high school. If I was in

1099
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 6: high school and something like that happened. I walked into

1100
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 6: a gym and Damian Lillart was there, and I do

1101
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 6: like he might come just say hi to me. That

1102
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 6: kind of stuff would change my life because I cared

1103
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 6: about basketball like that, and I got the sense from

1104
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 6: that young man. So the kid was about to leave,

1105
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 6: and I didn't want to tell him Damian Lillard was

1106
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 6: coming because I didn't want him to stay just for that.

1107
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 6: I want him to stay because there was a basketball clinic.

1108
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 6: So I started telling him like, yeah, there's about to

1109
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 6: be a clinic. That guy over there is named Phil Beckner,

1110
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 6: He's about to host it. They're going to be teaching,

1111
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 6: you know, like this is a good moment for you

1112
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 6: to be here. And the kids said, I know, I know,

1113
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 6: but I think I might need to go soon. I might,

1114
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 6: And I said, well, if you're going to get in trouble,

1115
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 6: like if you need to go to your practice, go

1116
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 6: to your practice. But like if you just don't want

1117
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 6: to be here because this looks boring, then if.

1118
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 5: I were you, I want to do that.

1119
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 6: He's well, like, how long is this clinic gonna be

1120
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 6: going on?

1121
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 5: I was like, I don't know. I'm just telling you.

1122
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 5: If I were you, I would not do that.

1123
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 6: And it resonated with him, like he didn't know what

1124
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 6: I was talking about. I think he just thought I

1125
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 6: was talking about the clinic. And he's like, okay, I'll

1126
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 6: say I listen. So he's stood there with me for

1127
00:50:56,760 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 6: like twenty thirty more minutes, and we're sitting there just

1128
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 6: watching the clinic. And you guys know, like sometimes like

1129
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 6: a clinic type setting, it's not always the most exciting

1130
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 6: thing if there's teaching going on, like, but some of

1131
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 6: the most important information could be some of the most

1132
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 6: boring information. And I told the kid that as we're watching,

1133
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 6: and you can see like he sold enough the information.

1134
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 6: And then like all of a sudden, Dame comes in

1135
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,240
Speaker 6: through the side door over there, and the kid's eyes

1136
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 6: lit up so big, like he almost lost his mind, and.

1137
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 5: He's like, that's what was coming. You're gonna tell me

1138
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 5: it was I know.

1139
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 6: I was like, because I didn't want you to stay

1140
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 6: for that. And so here's where here's where Dame being

1141
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 6: Dame comes in. I knew that if Dame saw me

1142
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 6: talking to the kid, he would make sure to come

1143
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 6: over there and connect with the kid. Sure enough, Dame

1144
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 6: is he's on the opposite end of the floor. There

1145
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 6: are like one hundred coaches in here, and he's saying

1146
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 6: hi to this woman, shaking hands.

1147
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 5: With this one.

1148
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 6: This is the pre COVID days, obviously, and you know

1149
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 6: he's doing this, and he's working his and now he's

1150
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 6: at half.

1151
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 5: Court and he's talking to this person. Now he's working

1152
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 5: his way down.

1153
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 6: Now he's at the free throw line by where we are,

1154
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 6: and we're like deep on.

1155
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 5: The baseline, and he's working his way.

1156
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,439
Speaker 6: He's working in his way, and he gets right over

1157
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 6: to us and says a quick what's up to me,

1158
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 6: and then spends the rest of the time saying what's

1159
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 6: up to the kid and just talking to him.

1160
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 5: And then Dame then.

1161
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 6: Went onto the floor to go be a part of

1162
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 6: the clinic, and the kid was shook and he was like, man,

1163
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 6: I got, I gotta, I gotta.

1164
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 5: Can I go sit over there? Can I go sit here?

1165
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 5: And I said, I thought you got to leave. No, no, no.

1166
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 6: Then he sat down on the front road and say

1167
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 6: there for the rest of the clinic, the rest of

1168
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 6: the time, And like that's a really minor thing, but

1169
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 6: Dame would do that anywhere. So like that was just

1170
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 6: one example but this guy every day somebody wants him

1171
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 6: to be present for them like that he is all

1172
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 6: the time, and I leave. And then the last thing,

1173
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 6: there's a story that like when I call him the

1174
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 6: greatest leader in sports, it's not to say like there

1175
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 6: aren't other like really good leaders, Like I know other

1176
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 6: teams have really good leaders. What I'm saying is I

1177
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 6: feel extremely confident, so much so that I'm willing to

1178
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 6: say it that there's nobody who does it better. So

1179
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 6: there might be somebody else who does it as well,

1180
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 6: but there's nobody who does it better.

1181
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,919
Speaker 5: And there's a story that I have personally.

1182
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 6: That happened with me and involving Dame that I can't

1183
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 6: share only because it would be irresponsible for me to

1184
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 6: share right now. One day I will be able to

1185
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 6: share this story, and what I might do, I might

1186
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 6: come back on here.

1187
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 5: To share it with you guys first.

1188
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 6: All right, I'm not trying to leave it as like,

1189
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 6: let's information and I'm holding on like it's not that

1190
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 6: at all, But I just want people to know when

1191
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 6: I say it, it's because like I've lived it, and

1192
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 6: I've lived some stuff with him that stands out and

1193
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 6: not not a lot of people what would do That's.

1194
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: All right, we got the scoop. When when you're ready

1195
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: to share that story, we'll get you back on.

1196
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,960
Speaker 3: You said the kid waiting at the clinic.

1197
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, actually something you slipped in there, Lamar. You

1198
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: said like you were thinking you were putting yourself in

1199
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: that kid's shoes. You know, like, wow, what type of

1200
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: experience that would be for like, in his instance, Lillard

1201
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: to walk in. But when you were a kid, Lamar,

1202
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 1: who was your Lillard?

1203
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 3: Like?

1204
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: Who would have been that to you?

1205
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 6: A couple guys? So number one, Penny Hardaway was my

1206
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 6: favorite player. Oh that's why we're number one in college.

1207
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 6: I always wanted to be six seven as a little cheated,

1208
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 6: but I love Penny. But also the hometown team, the

1209
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 6: Houston Rockets. For me growing up as a kid in Houston,

1210
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 6: my mom was a Rockets junkie. She's the one that

1211
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 6: got me on the basketball and uh, any one of

1212
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 6: those Rockets have they walked in like And that's the

1213
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:55,840
Speaker 6: thing for me.

1214
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 5: It didn't have to be like Hakeem or Clyde or

1215
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 5: even Kenny Smith.

1216
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 6: There could have been anybody like I remember talking to

1217
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 6: Matt Bullard before I took the Blazer job because you know,

1218
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask, like, hey, what's it like, you know,

1219
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 6: working in the league. And I was excited then just

1220
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 6: to talk to Matt.

1221
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 5: I had. I was like, I remember you shooting them threes.

1222
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I grew up watching that.

1223
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 6: So any one of the Rockets, but really maybe maybe

1224
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 6: Kenny Smith would have been the one above all, just

1225
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 6: because I got a chance afterwards to watch Kenny transition

1226
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 6: into television, which is something I wanted to do, and

1227
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 6: he's somebody who like helped make that real for me.

1228
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 6: And I got a chance to share this with them

1229
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 6: because our organization here at the Blazers, we did an

1230
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 6: internal kind of program and we had Kenny join us

1231
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 6: for it and I got to interview him for that

1232
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 6: and I got to share with him that, you know,

1233
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 6: I grew up in Houston and he's like the main

1234
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 6: reason why I got in the TV because I saw

1235
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 6: him as one of my childhood figures going from basketball

1236
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 6: at that level to transition into TV.

1237
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 5: So if he had walked in a gym like that,

1238
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 5: then yeah, I would have lost my mind. Lost my mind.

1239
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: Well, we got to let you go here soon. Again

1240
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: it's early for you, but we have one more question

1241
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: from at N Wilkinson ten. What's been your favorite Blazer's

1242
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: moment to call.

1243
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 5: Game five? OK see, yeah, that's what I figured, hands down.

1244
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 6: Well, so there's a there's a there's several reasons for it.

1245
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 6: It's uh so the what I was telling you about

1246
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 6: this story with Dane, this happened that season. So that's

1247
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 6: why I started calling him the greatest leader of sports

1248
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 6: that season, the greatest leader in sports that season is

1249
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:44,359
Speaker 6: because like I witnessed it and throughout that season, you

1250
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 6: guys might remember, uh Russell Westbrook was like going at

1251
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:49,919
Speaker 6: Dame Beer.

1252
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was.

1253
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 5: This is how out of control it was.

1254
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 6: There was I don't know if it was that season

1255
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 6: or the season before, but there was a game where

1256
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 6: Okac came to Portland and played and there was a

1257
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 6: ball on the floor. The whistle had already blown balls dead.

1258
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 6: Dame went over to go pick up the ball, and

1259
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 6: Wes just kicked the ball and it was like just

1260
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:11,320
Speaker 6: it was random.

1261
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 5: The next game was at Denver, and when.

1262
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 6: We flew to Denver, got off the bus at the hotel,

1263
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 6: went in, I went to my room really quick change

1264
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 6: and then went to the workout facility in the hotel

1265
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 6: and Dame was already there somehow, and when we got

1266
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 6: in the room, I was like, hey, like, you know,

1267
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 6: cause I'm relatively new to the league, like I didn't

1268
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 6: know if there was some beef going on before.

1269
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: And I just said, hey, is you and Westbrook are y'all?

1270
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 5: Are y'all?

1271
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 6: Like in the means what's name? Looked like you're talking

1272
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 6: about the kick last night? And I was like yeah,

1273
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 6: and He's like, I don't know, I don't know why

1274
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 6: he did that, Like he's like that was weird.

1275
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 5: I don't know why he did And because.

1276
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 6: Dame always gives Russ props like he gives Russ nothing beloved.

1277
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 6: So going into that series, those two have been going

1278
00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 6: at it back and forth, and I had felt like.

1279
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 5: Dame knew that.

1280
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 6: I have to come out in this series and kill

1281
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 6: him first, because he's gonna try to kill me and

1282
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 6: he's gonna make sure the entire world knows he got me.

1283
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 5: And I remember Game one.

1284
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 6: We didn't broadcast Game one, but we did the other games,

1285
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 6: but Game one, I was watching it and I remember

1286
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 6: Dame's first shot was like a twenty five foot thirty

1287
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 6: foot bomb, and I remember kind of standing like sitting

1288
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 6: up on my seat because I knew, like, oh, it's

1289
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 6: gonna be that kind of series.

1290
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 5: That's that's how you're approaching this series. So when we

1291
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 5: get to game.

1292
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 6: Five and in that game, CJ, who also played great,

1293
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 6: like CJ's play gets overshadowed in that series because Dame

1294
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Speaker 6: was that good, but CJ was great, Like those two

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00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 6: as a tandem outplayed Westbrook and Paul George. CJ got

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Speaker 6: in a foul trouble. Okay See was up double digits

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Speaker 6: like several times in that game, including late in the game,

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00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 6: Dame had to play extended minutes and he's like making

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00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 6: everything all the way and we get to like near

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00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 6: the middle of the fourth quarter and okay See is

1301
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 6: like playing really well. And that season, guys, you'll remember

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Speaker 6: when Paul George and Westbrook were playing good and like

1303
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 6: Jeremy Grant was hitting shots like and they were making threes.

1304
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 6: You weren't beating them. They won those games, and it

1305
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 6: felt like that was gonna happen. Then all of a sudden,

1306
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 6: use of Nurkic, who just broke his leg a month before,

1307
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 6: comes out of the tunnel, and then he's on a sideline,

1308
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 6: so we're calling the game like like.

1309
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:27,959
Speaker 5: What's going It feels like a double.

1310
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 6: And then like the last the last few minutes, Mooharkless,

1311
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 6: who had missed like every free throw up ontil the

1312
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 6: last few minutes, all of a sudden starts making all

1313
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 6: his free throws, and they were all free throws that

1314
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 6: he had to make, and it got to a situation

1315
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 6: where every possession was like a must score possession.

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00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 5: Blazer scored.

1317
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 6: TJ hit a fifteen footer, then a bank shot, like

1318
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 6: they scored every time they had to. And then when

1319
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,920
Speaker 6: they when the Blazers got that last stop, it was

1320
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 6: like everything is slowing down because it's like, oh my gosh,

1321
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 6: this because in my mind, like I'm sure everybody else

1322
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 6: is just thinking in the moment Blazer's versus OKC.

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Speaker 5: Game five, I'm thinking about the.

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Speaker 6: Conversations Damon I had leading up to that, because we

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01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 6: had had some significant conversations about this moment that was

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Speaker 6: about to occur weeks before this game even happened.

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Speaker 5: And it's like, WHOA, we're here.

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01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 6: And so I'm watching him playing fold and then he

1329
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 6: was dribbling around half court and I'm thinking. I don't

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Speaker 6: know how you guys were feeling if you're watching that live,

1331
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 6: but I'm like, why is he dribbling around half port?

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what we were thinking, Like when are you

1333
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: going here?

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Speaker 5: You gotta go?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 6: And I was not even thinking a shot at that

1337
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 6: at that from that distance, which we should have been,

1338
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 6: because he had just made one not too long ago

1339
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 6: with Paul George in his face, and like when he

1340
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 6: pulled up, it just felt like a surreal moment. It's

1341
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 6: like he's really shooting. He just ris fully opted to

1342
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 6: shoot this shot. Is nobody made him do that? And

1343
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 6: like the balls in the air, and like when it

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01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 6: went inside the cylinder, it took me like it felt

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01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 6: like half a second in real time. But when I

1346
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 6: hear the call back, it sounds like I reacted immediately,

1347
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 6: but I felt like it took me half a second

1348
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 6: to realize the ball actually went through and he made

1349
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 6: the basket, and I just lost it and I.

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Speaker 5: Like screamed, and then I was standing up. I was

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01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 5: standing up.

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01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: Guys say, you're not supposed to do that. You're supposed

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Speaker 1: to be professional.

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I stand up, do I we're broadcasting the games

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 6: and I was just standing there and I was just

1356
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 6: looking and it took me, I think, like a minute

1357
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 6: and a half before I even started talking again. And

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01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 6: I just let Kevin Collabro just handle it from there,

1359
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 6: and he did what he does. He made the moment

1360
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 6: even more beautiful. But that was definitely the moment, but

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01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 6: not just for the shot. It's because of all the context.

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Speaker 2: Sure you went, you went waving to the Oka. So

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: you benches, I mean.

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Speaker 5: You know that shot where you see Dame like steering

1365
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 5: us at a camera.

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01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, afterwards, So that's from our TV shot, But I

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01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 6: didn't see.

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01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 5: It because I wasn't looking at our screen. I was

1369
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 5: looking on the floor.

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Speaker 6: So it wasn't until I went home that night that

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 6: I saw that shot.

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Speaker 1: That's cool, that's cool, Like that's crazy to think, like

1373
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a very long career in this game

1374
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: here calling these games? Uh, I mean, will it be

1375
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: better than that? Will you ever get a better moment

1376
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: than that?

1377
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 6: You do not know, I've said, jay I, I don't know.

1378
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 6: I don't know how you The only way to me

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01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 6: that you you tought that is like it's a championship winn. Yeah, basically,

1380
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Speaker 6: I don't know, have you guys, have you seen somebody

1381
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 6: shoot that kind of shot to end the series?

1382
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 1: That deep?

1383
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: Not that deep? Even Paul George was like, not that deep,

1384
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 3: that's too far man.

1385
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a jump shot.

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01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: What the only terrible one as a Raptors fan, just

1387
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: the pure craziness is the kuhi you know, four bouncer

1388
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 1: and it's just like that moves them on in the

1389
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: next round. But yeah, I mean that's a different type

1390
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: of shot. It's crazy.

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01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 6: Man.

1392
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,920
Speaker 1: You're you're your joy for just speaking about a play

1393
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 1: or a series is so infectious, lamar and I appreciate

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01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: you coming on the show. We could have you on

1395
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: for another hour. Here, We'll let you go. We got

1396
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: to do this again. I hope we can in the future.

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01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 5: Yeah for sure, man, and hopefully task enjoying next time.

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01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah for sure. Well, thank you so much. What's

1399
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: the easiest way for people to follow you? Is it?

1400
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: What's your Twitter handle? I guess I can't remember off

1401
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: tom My.

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01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 6: Head, it's l underscore heard I've been a very lame

1403
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 6: follow Okay, I've been very active. I'll get back to

1404
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 6: it though at some point I will. But l underscore

1405
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 6: Herd is my Twitter handle.

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01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much and may the Wedgie gods

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01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: continue to bless you. Lamar. It's incredible. Thanks a lot, man.

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01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again.

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01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, and thank you guys, man seriously for what

1410
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 6: you do for basketball. There's a lot of people who

1411
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 6: watch you guys who you guys have the same kind

1412
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 6: of influence on people that I talk about the players

1413
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 6: having on people and like my coach for me growing up,

1414
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 6: like there's people who are getting connected through the game

1415
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 6: because of you guys. So I appreciate that about y'all man,

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01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 6: and keep up all the great work.

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Speaker 1: Very kind words. Thanks a lot of mar Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to some.

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01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 7: NBA rumors, SWIMBA rumors here.

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Speaker 1: We'll go quickly, because man, we had a blast talking

1421
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: to Lamar. I heard there Champs dropped his inside pass. Yeah,

1422
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: grab a swig of water there, Leelee Yeah nice, Yeah,

1423
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: I know. I get pumped up just hearing Lamar talking

1424
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,040
Speaker 1: about it. Pay the time out. I know. So Schamps

1425
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: at the Athletic had his inside pass. He always drops

1426
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: like all these nuggets. He's so connected. He had a

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: couple in his article yesterday. I want to throw all

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01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: three of the match. You guys, and then you can

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01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: tell me which one is the most intriguing, so Seam said.

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01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: The reports Pelicans willing to discuss trading Londo ball Out

1431
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: or JJ Reddick all right, could be looking to move

1432
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: on from one or both of those guys. The Warriors

1433
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: and Pelicans discussed a potential deal involving Kelly Ubray Junior,

1434
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: and then the Knicks and the Clippers are reportedly among

1435
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 1: the interested teams in Pistons guard Derrick Rose. So that's

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01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,720
Speaker 1: a lot there trade. But of those, which one intrigues

1437
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: you the most?

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01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know which one intrigues me the most

1439
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 3: because I kind of think two of them are connected. Here.

1440
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 3: The Pelicans are willing to discuss a trade for JJ Reddick. Meanwhile,

1441
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: the Warriors and Pelicans have discussed the potential deal involving

1442
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 3: Kelly Ubray Junior. If you're a Lee Ellis and you

1443
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: fired up that trade machine, you can see that Kelly

1444
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 3: Ubray Junior works in a trade for JJ Reddick, and that,

1445
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 3: to me is the one that makes sense. It's going

1446
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,439
Speaker 3: to be hard to figure out if the Pelicans really

1447
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 3: want to do it, because the Warriors don't have a

1448
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 3: ton of picks.

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01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: They can trade.

1450
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 3: Since they were involved in the Andrew Wiggins deal, they

1451
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 3: have a couple of picks going out. I think they're

1452
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 3: twenty one and they're twenty four are already traded, so

1453
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: it makes it pretty tough to do. But I do

1454
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 3: think JJ Reddick is the name to watch here because

1455
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,439
Speaker 3: to me, he's the only one I'm totally convinced would

1456
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,479
Speaker 3: be able to stay on the floor in a playoff game.

1457
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 3: Lonzo not so sure. You see a lot of non

1458
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: shooters getting taken out of the game during the playoffs,

1459
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 3: same with Kelly Ubrad Junior. Maybe Derrick Rose would be

1460
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: a solid pick up for a playoff team, but JJ

1461
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 3: just the fact that he's a shooter and has had

1462
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,760
Speaker 3: experience in the playoffs and at least knows where to

1463
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 3: be defensively is going to be a huge advantage to

1464
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 3: whichever team is able to pick him up. He hasn't

1465
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 3: found his shot yet this season, but I'm personally not

1466
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 3: worried about JJ Reddick having lost his jump shot. I

1467
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 3: assume it'll come back if he's playing on a team

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01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 3: that has a little bit more potential. So for me,

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01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 3: the big name of these four is definitely Reddick.

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Ley, Yeah, I think the Warriors

1471
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: are probably trying to look to get off that contract

1472
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 2: of Ubray because of the tax implications as well. So

1473
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: and Aubray hasn't really worked out there for them. He hasn't.

1474
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 2: He's gotten a little bit better than from that icy

1475
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 2: cold start there. But JJ, yeah, put him out on

1476
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: the court there with staff spreads the floor. We know

1477
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 2: that as a veteran at his stage of his career,

1478
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 2: he'll start knocking down those shots quickly. But of course

1479
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 2: the connection with Bibbs and Derek Rose will will remain.

1480
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,280
Speaker 2: So it sort of makes sense to me that that

1481
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:09,960
Speaker 2: that something like that could happen. Obviously, the Pistons are

1482
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: nowhere near canturning. The Knicks aren't much better, but they're

1483
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 2: doing better than the Pistons right now. And I just

1484
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 2: think Tibbs likes his guys. He likes his guys. He

1485
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: got Taj. They're back as well in Minnesota, and Taj

1486
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: was as Tarje actually in the Knicks. Now I know

1487
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 2: he was connected there was connected.

1488
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: Did he have a signed Yeah, okay, yeah, not playing

1489
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: much of you.

1490
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 2: So I think that might happen, and then you might

1491
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,959
Speaker 2: see Noah come out of retirement maybe and go back

1492
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 2: to the Knicks. Maybe that's what Timms would.

1493
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: Like to do.

1494
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 2: I think though, But.

1495
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: Derrek Ross is going to be moved for sure.

1496
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 2: Well he was shoved last year though as well, and he.

1497
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why I'm doubling down on him this year.

1498
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: And you know, he makes sense for a lot of

1499
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: teams as a sixth guy, six man or a guy

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01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: coming off your bench. I think he could still score.

1501
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: And you know, obviously as a vet in this league

1502
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: has been in big playoff series and stuff like that.

1503
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: I think you contribute on the right team. I could

1504
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 1: see why a team like the Clippers, who I mean,

1505
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: you saw Reggie Jackson have to be the main guy,

1506
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: you know last night's game and he put up a

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01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: great line. But when Reggie Jackson is your guy, it

1508
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it can be hit or miss. And that's fine. Again,

1509
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 1: he had a good game. He was out of the

1510
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: rotation a couple nights ago, so I could see the

1511
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,919
Speaker 1: clips wanting him the Knicks. I see almost like, yeah,

1512
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: like I know, Knicks fans might be like, oh no,

1513
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: don't take away minutes from like quickly or stuff like that,

1514
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: and I get that, but it could also just be

1515
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: like as a locker room presence and a guy like

1516
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: trying to like just sort of build up a rookie

1517
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: and teach him the ins and outs of having a

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01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: long career. I can see that Rose fit with of

1519
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 1: course TIBs in the mix too. What about Lonzo Ball

1520
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: on the Warriors Though you don't think Steve Kerr like

1521
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: he likes, I know you're gonna get right to like, wow,

1522
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: can you shoot the three? But but there have been

1523
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 1: many guys in like the Kerr Warriors like team. There

1524
01:08:48,320 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: a guy that can play defense like switchy on that

1525
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 1: end and has incredible playmaking abilities, which Lonzo still does.

1526
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 1: I could see him being, you know, in the right

1527
01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,520
Speaker 1: spot working in the Warrior system.

1528
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,160
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't think he would. Personally, he would be

1529
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 3: a perfect fit for Steve Kerr. Steve Kerr likes to

1530
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 3: play guys who can do a little bit of everything,

1531
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 3: can play defense and move the ball and maybe knock

1532
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: down a jumper. But to me, the way the Warriors

1533
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 3: are going to get best this season is if Steph

1534
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 3: Curry has the ball the entire time, and in that case,

1535
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 3: having Lonzo Ball on the other side just standing around

1536
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 3: isn't going to do you much good. That being said,

1537
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 3: he's a young guy, he's still got intriguing potential, and

1538
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 3: you can see him as a third guard eventually whenever

1539
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 3: Klay Thompson is back. Then maybe his shooting doesn't or

1540
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 3: his lack of shooting doesn't matter quite as much when

1541
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 3: he's the third guy and all you're wanting him is

1542
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 3: to be Mario Chalmers. Move the ball sometimes, get in

1543
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 3: the lane and pass it out. But I don't know,

1544
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 3: bringing in another point guard giving Steve Kurr another reason

1545
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 3: to take the ball out of Steph Curry's hands, No thanks.

1546
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you just want Lonzo to be like Livingston

1547
01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 1: basically without without the jump shot that Livingston was always cash,

1548
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: but he could obviously contribute another fascets of the game. Yeah,

1549
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 1: we'll see. You know, not the sexiest rumors here with

1550
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: any of these guys. But the Pelicans off to that

1551
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: slow start. We talked about them. You know, you got

1552
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: to start assuming maybe Deved Griffin shakes it up a

1553
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: little bit because the backcourt is not working and the

1554
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 1: lack of shooting around Zion and stuff like that, and

1555
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: Ingram in there, especially with Steven Adams inside that's not working.

1556
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,600
Speaker 1: So what can you do. We'll see if any of

1557
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,240
Speaker 1: these guys move ball Reddick Ubre Rose, let us know

1558
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 1: who you think is most likely to be gone. All right,

1559
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun with Lamar Hurd. This

1560
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: was a fun, fun show. Let's get to tweeted the

1561
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: night ol Lelee before.

1562
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 5: We go, tweet O the night Wow Twitter.

1563
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you guys, we sort of referenced it there

1564
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 2: earlier in the Rockets and Wizards game, and I'm going

1565
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 2: back to that game because Wall in Westbrook got into

1566
01:10:42,920 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: it in the fourth and after the game, John Wall

1567
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 2: took a you know, what happens on the court stays

1568
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:49,599
Speaker 2: on the court approach. You know, he kind of referenced

1569
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 2: like his history and his record there against Russell Westbrook.

1570
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 2: And this is what Tim McMahon from ESPN tweeted here.

1571
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: John Wall says it was just basic basketball trash talk

1572
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 2: with washed Russell Westbrook that led to double t's also

1573
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: notes that he hasn't gotten the best of Russ Oft

1574
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: and Russ has been kicked my ass for years. He's

1575
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,000
Speaker 2: a hell of a talent. This ain't the first time

1576
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,559
Speaker 2: we've talked trash before, so you know, John Wall taking

1577
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 2: the high road. Russ, Well, he took a different approach.

1578
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 2: I don't start talking shit. I just defend myself. People

1579
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 2: just say anything, especially when I know the facts. I

1580
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 2: think they just started talking shit because they started to

1581
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: win at that time. It's all right. We played them again.

1582
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,720
Speaker 1: Once I won the game one of them last.

1583
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 2: That was a thing like Wall. And you know, John

1584
01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 2: Wore hasn't played for a couple of years. He's just

1585
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,560
Speaker 2: happy to be back out there. The trash talk is

1586
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: a part of just being on the court. Weresbrook though,

1587
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 2: He's ready to fight anyone over anything anytime.

1588
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: Frustrated Russell Westbrook for all right, let's get two pick

1589
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: the results. It was that game. A lot of us

1590
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: had Houston to win cover by two and a half.

1591
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: Traded le did, I did. We all got the victory,

1592
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: big one for you guys, and proved to ten and thirteen.

1593
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: I'm thirteen and ten. Tass had the Wizards falls to

1594
01:12:03,560 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: eight and fifteen. Ugh, Tassi was that record looking like? Well,

1595
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: I guess it is better than the Wizard still. But anyway,

1596
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 1: task needs this one tonight and our game is the

1597
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: Mavericks in Utah take on the Jazz who have won

1598
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 1: nine straight. Utah favored by four and a half. That's it.

1599
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: What do you think? I know it's back to back

1600
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: for them, but who do you got lely Goeta started?

1601
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is a back to back and the Jazz

1602
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: aromas jew for a bad one. Yeah, but they're just

1603
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: playing so well at both ends of the floor. I

1604
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,840
Speaker 2: think they've got five points in them, So I'll take

1605
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 2: the Jazz Trey.

1606
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going with the Jazz.

1607
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 3: Two. Wouldn't be an NBA season without a ten game

1608
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:43,599
Speaker 3: win streak from Utah. This would be ten tonight. And

1609
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 3: like the saying, they've been playing really well. Maybe their

1610
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 3: stinker was the first half last night, because they didn't

1611
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 3: look very good last night against the Knicks. So a

1612
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: little bounce back game from Donovan Mitchell that's a problem

1613
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 3: for the Mavericks.

1614
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna overthink this. I'm not picking against the

1615
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: team a one ninth straight and especially the line like this.

1616
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: Four and a half. Yeah, five is doable. It could

1617
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: be close, I guess, but I'll go Utah as well.

1618
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: So that's all three of us on the Jazz. Let's

1619
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 1: find out who tast took the MAVs.

1620
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 5: That's it.

1621
01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 1: The MAVs. Yeah, he's getting desperate. He's got to make

1622
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 1: up some ground because we're running out of January and

1623
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,759
Speaker 1: he's two back from you guys. He's eight and fifteen.

1624
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: You guys are ten at thirteen. I'm thirteen and ten.

1625
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: So Dallas four and a half or plus four and

1626
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: a half, I guess in Tassa's case, you guys have

1627
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: and I do the Jazz to win by five or more.

1628
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,439
Speaker 1: All right, let's call it there again. Thank you so

1629
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 1: much to Blazer's TV analyst Lamar Hurd. That was so

1630
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: much fun. We will have to have him back on

1631
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: the show. Shout out to the stream team for joining

1632
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: us live. We're gonna try something new, guys on the

1633
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:46,120
Speaker 1: channel tomorrow night, probably around halftime of the first game

1634
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,960
Speaker 1: on TNT, which correct me if I'm wrong, got changed,

1635
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: so I think they switched it up. I think it's

1636
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: now the Blazers Rockets game, if I have that correctly,

1637
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: unless I have that backwards. But anyway, around halftime of

1638
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: the first TNT game, we're gonna jump on YouTube here

1639
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 1: call it. We're calling it NBA Happy Hour, Crack a

1640
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: beer and just shoot the shit with some of the fans.

1641
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: Out there. See I got questions, That'll be the time

1642
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 1: to get them in. I never get to look at

1643
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:13,240
Speaker 1: the comments from the stream team while we're doing these shows.

1644
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:14,920
Speaker 1: There's so much going on, so we're just gonna sit

1645
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: there and maybe we'll have the game on watch that

1646
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: side of our eye, but really just talk it up.

1647
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 1: So looking forward, I know try you're gonna join me, Leley,

1648
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll be reading bedtime stories of

1649
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: that time. We'll figure it out again. It's gonna be

1650
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 1: mad casual. That's on Thursday night NBA Happy Hour, So

1651
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to No Dunks on YouTube. Hit

1652
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: that little notification button so you'll know exactly when we're

1653
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: going live. We're hanging out, we're talking hoops, and we're

1654
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: having a beer. Email us your questions and comments for

1655
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: a classic Beach Step in podcast. New one coming today.

1656
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. Doesn't feel like a Wednesday to me. Is

1657
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: one of those Wednesdays where I was like, it's not Wednesday,

1658
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,920
Speaker 1: It's Wednesday. Wednesday. Yeah, it's Wednesday. So Beach Step and

1659
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: coming later this afternoon. You guys got some great questions in,

1660
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,880
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1661
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,519
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1665
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,880
Speaker 2: And just quickly, tomorrow I'll be bringing back popping packs,

1666
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 2: but with not an NBA guest.

1667
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, teaser tea?

1668
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 7: Is it?

1669
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:15,479
Speaker 1: Teas it? Man?

1670
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,839
Speaker 2: He's a YouTube sensation in the sort of Steve Irwin

1671
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:25,720
Speaker 2: type of mold. So uh yeah, a YouTube sensation times.

1672
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,839
Speaker 2: He's got like nearly two million subscribers on YouTube. Okay,

1673
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: likes to do things, likes to have a lot of

1674
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 2: animals bite him, so yeah, a bit of a crossover.

1675
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 1: Okay. I have no idea who you're having on popping packs,

1676
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 1: but I'll be watching, so that will be live on

1677
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: inspare and we'll figure it out. What we'll figure out,

1678
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,000
Speaker 1: whether we're turn it into a podcast or it's up

1679
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: on YouTube and stuff like that. Is that correct? Is

1680
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 1: that the plan? Yeah?

1681
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 2: We might even just do this one just on YouTube

1682
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 2: because YouTube's platformed, so yeah, oh yeah.

1683
01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: We got to cash in on those two million subscribers.

1684
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: This random person has yeahs.

1685
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: You might have to start having animals bought you on

1686
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 2: the on the show, just to build up that following support.

1687
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: I had a giant snake on me once upon a time. Peaches, Yeah,

1688
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 1: Peaches was fine. It was those other tiny snakes that

1689
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: I was fan. Shirt and stuff. Yeah, I wasn't a

1690
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: fan of that one. That was a tough pick. We

1691
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: got to figure out what we're doing for this pick

1692
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 1: them too. By the way, So if you have an idea,

1693
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, tweet at us at No Dunk sync, emailing

1694
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: in No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com, or you

1695
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 1: can let us know in the comments. What should it

1696
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 1: appears like it could be tasked. I don't want to

1697
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: jinx you guys, but tastes two bad. I'm gonna need

1698
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: this one tonight. What should the loser, whoever's in last

1699
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 1: place do in our pick the payoff? You guys, have

1700
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,679
Speaker 1: anything come to mind? Tray shirt, a video I think

1701
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: of a guy like funneling a can of beans a

1702
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: bean bong bean bong.

1703
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't know. If I lose,

1704
01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 3: I feel like I should have to eat five roast.

1705
01:16:55,360 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 1: Beefs during an episode.

1706
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: I know you're probably not gonna lose this one. But

1707
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 3: we had talked to crushing some olives. Yeah, maybe the

1708
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,720
Speaker 3: beanbong who knows who knows what tasses food tie in

1709
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 3: is gonna be here, but uh, we'll run it back.

1710
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 1: Well, maybe task will just have to use that bowflex

1711
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 1: behind him that whole episode of Bill Basement. He's gotta

1712
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: work out. We've done some some of those variations before.

1713
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,519
Speaker 1: All right, let's call it there. A long, long show,

1714
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: but that was a lot of fun. We will see

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Speaker 1: you guys later today for beached up in Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 4: You heard it here first, have a great time turn up,

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Speaker 4: love you guys awesome, thanks.

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Speaker 3: For joining us. And remember one hundred and one points

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Speaker 3: is impressive, but thirty three assists, now that's really something.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the day, people.

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Speaker 5: You could stay every day, be happy every minute. It's

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Speaker 5: been so long with your fana already, it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: grady