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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December sixteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour is brought.

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Speaker 2: To you by Jet Home Loans and now a guy who,

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Speaker 2: just like Mac Jones, always brings the Riz, Jay P.

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Speaker 3: Chackrick, Welcome in. It is Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday,

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Speaker 3: December sixteenth, the busy two hours ahead as always on

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Speaker 3: Monday after games. This is after another. Jags lost thirty

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Speaker 3: two to twenty five, the final back and forth ball

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Speaker 3: game of the Jets with some big time plays. I

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Speaker 3: guess the defense has given up a lot of those

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Speaker 3: big time plays this season. Jaguars offense, though, had some

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Speaker 3: impactful play from young players and some cornerstone players for

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Speaker 3: the future. As we said, explosive plays and key mobens

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Speaker 3: against the Jaguars defense will keep it real as we

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Speaker 3: always due, but especially in one certain segment in an

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Speaker 3: hour number two and fanatics fan questions that went out earlier,

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Speaker 3: and we'll go around the National Football League playoff pictures

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Speaker 3: are heating up and a lot to get to today.

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Speaker 3: Back and forth ball game head coach Doug Peterson after

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Speaker 3: the game. There were some big plays, but not enough

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Speaker 3: for the good guys they made.

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Speaker 4: They made plays that we didn't make, and and that

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Speaker 4: that part's unfortunate, you know, and you know, I thought

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Speaker 4: we did some good things, but just again it comes

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Speaker 4: down to just a couple of plays that you know,

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Speaker 4: your your season or your game or whatever, it could

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Speaker 4: be a little bit different.

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Speaker 3: That's the case. Over and over again. It feels like

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Speaker 3: we welcome in Pro Football Hall of Fame left tackle

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Speaker 3: Tony Boselli and CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco. Good afternoon, gentlemen. Pete.

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Speaker 3: Another one with all these blown coverages and big time plays.

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Speaker 5: My goodness, I mean, can you find more guys open

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Speaker 5: in any secondary than that one? Maybe all year long?

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Speaker 5: It's incredible. And by the way, one like the pass

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Speaker 5: rush was very good either. I mean it wasn't a

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Speaker 5: great day for that group as well. So look, it's

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Speaker 5: there's a lot to dissect about the game, a lot

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Speaker 5: to get into.

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Speaker 6: They had a chance to win the game and they didn't.

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Speaker 5: They couldn't get you know, stops when they needed to

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Speaker 5: and and I think ultimately, when they look back on it,

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Speaker 5: they won for losing. Like I always like to say,

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Speaker 5: I mean, you lost the game, but you showed some

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Speaker 5: things in some certain situation.

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Speaker 6: Brian Thomas is on his way to being.

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Speaker 5: A superstar, and there are other guys that flashed at times,

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Speaker 5: and you still lost the game, which.

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Speaker 6: Is a good thing because you didn't hurt your draft position. Again.

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Speaker 7: So it was interesting because you said how open guys were, Well,

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Speaker 7: they were either really really open or not in coverage. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: because there wasn't a pass rush to your point, and

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Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers had to hold ball and could not find

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Speaker 7: anything down the field. And if you watch the tape,

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Speaker 7: there was really good coverage at.

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Speaker 6: The time I watched.

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Speaker 5: I watched it, and I agree with you there were

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Speaker 5: there were, But then they have their mental busts all

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Speaker 5: the time.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Like it's like you can, like if you go

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Speaker 7: to the fourth quarter, the third and five were Aaron

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Speaker 7: Rodgers throws the ball to Devonte Adams down the sideline

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Speaker 7: and he toe touches it. Not this one. This is

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Speaker 7: the next playoffs gonna get to.

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Speaker 3: That's the other one.

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Speaker 6: This had to be on Jerry and Jones.

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Speaker 7: Right, Well, let's hold on in a second. We'll get

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Speaker 7: that in a second.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the toe tapping play you're talking about, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The toe tapping play, like you just tip your hat

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Speaker 7: it was good coverage by Tyson Campbell.

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Speaker 8: It was a great throw, it was an amazing catch. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's okay, right, there's nothing wrong with that. Tyson Campbell

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Speaker 8: shouldn't hang his head. He'd be like, hey, great play,

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Speaker 8: I had good coverage. I played it right, And you

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Speaker 8: can live with getting beat by that.

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Speaker 7: But well, you can't live with is on the next

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Speaker 7: third and five later in that drive is a simple

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Speaker 7: crossing route and everyone else is playing. Man. I heard

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Speaker 7: Doug today talk about that they were supposed to It

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Speaker 7: sounds like they're supposed to switch it off, So maybe

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Speaker 7: Jarion was not wrong.

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Speaker 6: Who's he supposed to switch that off with? There?

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Speaker 3: Though, let's see right, there's thirty three.

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Speaker 6: Well him, he can't cover that.

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Speaker 7: It looks like to me either that he's supposed to

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Speaker 7: switch it off with Monteric Brown, who's just supposed to

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Speaker 7: play his side and switch the crossers, which seems hard

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Speaker 7: to me, or he's supposed to run with it. But

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Speaker 7: whoever's fault it is, it's a blown coverage and you

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Speaker 7: can't lose this way. And we've lost too many times

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Speaker 7: with exposive plays of guys just not being covered.

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Speaker 5: You know, it looked weird about that, Tony for them

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Speaker 5: to pass that office everybody else is playing man.

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Speaker 7: That's my point. But JP, isn't that what Doug said

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Speaker 7: in the press conference?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what? And and in fact we have

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Speaker 3: that Doug Peterson today discussing the display exactly the third

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Speaker 3: and five of that was blown by the Jags defense.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 4: That's the challengees coaches right now. We've got to continue to,

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Speaker 4: you know, find ways to to make sure the information

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Speaker 4: is is is passed along properly. And it's up to

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Speaker 4: the player obviously too to digest and ask questions on

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Speaker 4: certain things. But you know, and and sometimes two, in

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Speaker 4: the heat of the moment and the heat of the battle,

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Speaker 4: you get you kind of kind of locked in on

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Speaker 4: the the man over you a little bit, and you

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to say you lock up

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Speaker 4: just sort of lose track of what you need to

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Speaker 4: be doing and and you're you're focused on that one

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Speaker 4: able to take a deep breath and I think see

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Speaker 4: the big picture.

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Speaker 6: Can help. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That was after a follow up to his answer yes,

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Speaker 3: it should have been passed off. And here here they are,

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Speaker 3: I mean, yesterday, so many big time plays allowed by

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Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean the part that Doug talked about

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Speaker 7: it was earlier in this uh in his press conference

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Speaker 7: just before that comment. And so whether it's supposed to

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Speaker 7: be Jaran Jones running or supposed to be passed up,

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Speaker 7: I don't know. And but Doug said passed off. Whatever.

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Speaker 7: Here's my bigger point. It's happened too. It's happened too

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Speaker 7: often this year, and it's cost us ball games.

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Speaker 6: And you know that's coaching, and so Pete I was.

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Speaker 7: That's where I was going. If it keeps on happening,

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Speaker 7: then at some point it's the it's you gotta look

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Speaker 7: at the coaching staff and say, guys, why are you

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Speaker 7: allowing this? And go find someone else. Maybe they're as

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Speaker 7: good a player, but at least they're gonna be in

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Speaker 7: the right place, because right now, I mean, you can't

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Speaker 7: win if you can't do assignment sound football. But if

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Speaker 7: mister simons are gonna happen every once in a while,

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Speaker 7: and that's part of that's part of the game too,

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Speaker 7: But it's been constant. It's like weekend and week out

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Speaker 7: where guys are just running wide open.

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Speaker 6: But Tony, you, okay, they switched.

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Speaker 5: Out one of the players. That's a switch out there.

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Speaker 5: Mont Ark Brown is playing for Ronald Darby, so you

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Speaker 5: switch out the bat. But let me make it because

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Speaker 5: if you switch out the player and the same thing

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Speaker 5: keeps happening, ultimately it goes back to the coach. And

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Speaker 5: and here here's what if you were doing a job

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Speaker 5: and your boss kept telling you do it this way,

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Speaker 5: do it this way, do it this way. You gotta

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Speaker 5: do it this way, you gotta do it, and you

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Speaker 5: weren't doing it, and then they switched. They switched, Well,

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Speaker 5: they switched that guy. You switch you out, put somebody

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Speaker 5: else in. Well, that guy wasn't doing it. Then it

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Speaker 5: would be on the boss.

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Speaker 6: Well responsible, And we've.

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Speaker 7: Talked about this in the past. As a coach, you

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Speaker 7: actually can be right skim out. But if you're if

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Speaker 7: guys can't do it, you're wrong. And so at some

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Speaker 7: point you got to say, okay, this is too much

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Speaker 7: for our guys, so let's keep it simple. At least

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Speaker 7: we'll be in the right place and we'll play fast.

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Speaker 5: Well, the right the simple thing would be Jones. You

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Speaker 5: go with your guy, and you go with yours.

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Speaker 7: Something that's the point of making it. And that's this case.

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Speaker 7: But there's been other cases.

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Speaker 6: Where other cases on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and so it's just, you know, it's frustrating. It's

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Speaker 7: frustrating for everybody. But it's the story of our season.

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Speaker 7: Another one loss, one possession game. Everyone says, oh, if

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Speaker 7: we just won those one possession games, Well we didn't.

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Speaker 7: And the NFL is full of one possession games that

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Speaker 7: determine the outcome every single week. And guess what. The

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Speaker 7: good teams win them most a lot of them. The

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Speaker 7: great teams win almost all of them. The chiefs the

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Speaker 7: bad teams m sit where we are at three eleven.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's weird though, Like you know, we could

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Speaker 5: just talk. We're talking about the defense right now. I

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Speaker 5: watched the tape this morning and I came away from

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Speaker 5: it and I'm like, who stood.

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Speaker 6: Out on that tape for the defense? No, but not

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Speaker 3: But first half, I mean, they looked good, right, decent enough,

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Speaker 3: they weren't on the field. A lot of the offenses

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Speaker 7: First half. We did to them what teams have been

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Speaker 7: doing to us. We had they only had three possessions. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and we had long drives, we converted third downs. I

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Speaker 7: think we were five to six at one point on

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they had a great drive where they ran four

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Speaker 7: We had, we had time and possession. Like the only

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Speaker 7: thing we didn't do well where this game would have

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Speaker 7: been not over but really in control, is we were

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Speaker 7: one for three in the red zone. If we'd have

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Speaker 7: converted those, didn't settle for short field goals and actually

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Speaker 7: got it into the end zone, it would have been

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Speaker 7: I think a much different game. But so the defense

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Speaker 7: was on the field very little now when they were

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Speaker 7: they only gave up seven and they did a good

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Speaker 3: That was on a drive where they had to use

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Speaker 3: a fake punt to keep it going.

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Speaker 7: Well that was the touchdown first one. Yeah, but that

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Speaker 7: still counts. But my point is, but then in the

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Speaker 7: second half, the big plays came and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 7: here we go.

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Speaker 5: But again back to the tape, Tony and watching the tape,

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Speaker 5: nobody stood out, nobody, you know, you know who actually

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Speaker 5: flashed at times and had one of his better games.

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Speaker 6: Again for the second Hamilton did some decent things.

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Speaker 7: Thought Von Hamilton did good things. I thought Tyler Lacy

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Speaker 7: did some good things.

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Speaker 6: He did, he did.

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Speaker 7: I thought in the run game we were gap sound.

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Speaker 7: Now they're not a very good running team. The offensive

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Speaker 7: line is not great at runbocking. I thought our pass

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Speaker 7: rush was nowhere to be non existent?

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Speaker 6: Where where were? Where were Walker and Allen?

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Speaker 7: I thought they were you know, I thought they had

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Speaker 7: big days against those guys. Now, Morgan Moses is a

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Speaker 7: But that peak, that's what teams who are three and

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Speaker 6: That that's all I mean's playing.

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Speaker 7: But but look at the linebackers, Pete. They're on top

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Speaker 7: And and that's that's Tampa two. They're playing Tampa two there, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: But I that's just that's just Tampa two.

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Speaker 5: Both they widened too much and that's a tough ask

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Speaker 7: He was, he was shoveling the first three tests, okay.

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Speaker 6: So again, probably not the right coverage. You know.

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Speaker 7: Here's why I think Devin Lloyd has done a good

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Speaker 7: If Devin Lloyd's your middle linebacker, asking him to carry

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Speaker 6: Call, and he's not the fastest guy in the world.

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Speaker 7: Doesn't coverage cover great because I don't think he runs great, right.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he gets caught a lot in that stuff too.

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Speaker 7: And but on the flip side of devil, Lloyd's done

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Speaker 6: I agree. I agree, he's much better in the run

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Speaker 3: By the way, you said earlier, guys that the DeVante

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Speaker 3: seen that a lot, well, Ben Volan of the Boston

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Speaker 5: But wait, but that's not what he said. Tony said,

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Speaker 7: Zero catches zero that I don't know.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but yeah, Chap, But I'm like, the guy did

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Speaker 3: Right, Well, I mean almost the week before for Brian

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Speaker 3: Hey, let's come back. We'll get into the offensive side

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Speaker 3: of this thing, Pete. We've got plenty to discuss on defense. Still,

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Speaker 3: certainly that was a rough day at the office for them,

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Speaker 7: I think the opportunity just came my way. Here.

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Speaker 4: So I made the place, and I pride myself on

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Speaker 3: Saw Brenton strains Jaguars tight end and twelve targets eleven

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Speaker 3: Tony Vasselli and Pete Prisco and Stranger's day was nice.

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Speaker 6: He's a star.

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Speaker 5: He is the You know, there are certain guys in

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Speaker 6: Not there yet, but he's going to be that guy.

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Speaker 5: Big, strong, athletic, can run, knows how to run routes,

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Speaker 5: And the fact that he and Strange had the type

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Speaker 7: Fair, I'm not in that game.

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Speaker 7: And in the past game he was so big and

442
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Speaker 7: powerful and could run he was a nightmare to cover

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Speaker 7: for a safety. Safeties were too small and linebackers are

444
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Speaker 7: too slow. If you look at George Kittle, who I

445
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Speaker 7: think is probably the best tight end in football. Now

446
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Speaker 7: what makes him so good run game? Dominant blocker, pass game,

447
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Speaker 7: very good receiver because it puts the defense in a

448
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Speaker 7: bind of how do you treat him on every down?

449
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Speaker 7: Evan Ingram will would never be that because he does

450
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Speaker 7: not have the blocking or ability or the size that

451
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Speaker 7: allowed him to be a dominant blocker. He's a willing blocker,

452
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Speaker 7: but he's not a dominant blocker so that when he's

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Speaker 7: on the field, you can almost treat him as a

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Speaker 7: wide receiver.

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Speaker 6: He's more receiver than tight end.

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Speaker 7: That's right, and that's why I thought playing a twelve personnel,

457
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Speaker 7: those two give you some advantages against the defense. Breton

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Speaker 7: Strange was the biggest positive for me coming out of

459
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Speaker 7: the game on Sunday because I was like, Okay, I

460
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Speaker 7: thought he could do it. I agree, But now you

461
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Speaker 7: have a legitimate guy who you can say, okay, we

462
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Speaker 7: have our tight end of the future. And now, depending

463
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Speaker 7: on the health of Evan Ingram and whoever is making

464
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Speaker 7: the decisions next year, whether it's Trent or somebody else

465
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Speaker 7: is obviously you have to look at salary cap and

466
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Speaker 7: that whole discussion and what you do. But you bring

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Speaker 7: if Evan comes back healthy and he's having surgery and

468
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Speaker 7: everything else, well you have a very nice twelve package.

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Speaker 7: Very like those two guys on the field give you

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Speaker 7: something and give you a lot of flexibility to do

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Speaker 7: some interesting stuff. Because Evan's a very good move tight end.

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Speaker 7: I think you can line them up at full back,

473
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Speaker 7: you can do different things with them. Breton strange being

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Speaker 7: on the field every down.

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Speaker 5: But look, I'm gonna go back to Okay, Philadelphia, no

476
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Speaker 5: targets three against Minnesota. Okay, wait, let me go back

477
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Speaker 5: even further against New England. Note then five against Green Bay.

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Speaker 5: And he played well in that game. Remember he had

479
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Speaker 5: five catches for fifty nine yards, then none, then three,

480
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Speaker 5: then one, then two, then one. Come on and he

481
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Speaker 5: and if I'm there was one of those games where

482
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Speaker 5: he barely.

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Speaker 6: Had any.

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Speaker 3: Of those games. Yeah, I forget which one was. I

485
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Speaker 3: forget which one. I can look it up real quick.

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Speaker 7: Yeah I can't. I can't.

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Speaker 6: I don't have an argument, no justification for that. That's

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Speaker 6: just bad coaching. That's just bad coaching. It's all this

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Speaker 6: whether I mean, he You're right, he's a good, willing blocker.

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Speaker 7: Now he's not a willing blocker.

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Speaker 6: Good I mean, but he's a good blocker.

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Speaker 7: Okay, next time you watch the tape.

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Speaker 6: P yeah, I know he's a good blocker.

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Speaker 7: Watch him. Watch what he did on the goal line

495
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Speaker 7: to Reddick. He took Reddick six yards off the football

496
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Speaker 7: and put him on his back in the end zone.

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Speaker 3: Strange had nine snaps in the Philly game.

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Speaker 6: It's mystifying.

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Speaker 7: Brent Strange could play football boys, And wasn't.

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Speaker 5: That the game where Thomas didn't didn't have only had

501
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Speaker 5: a couple of targets too. I think if I'm mistaken,

502
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Speaker 5: then I think that was the game. But anyways, they

503
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Speaker 5: have themselves a nice tight end. They have themselves a

504
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Speaker 5: nice tight true blocking, pass catching tight end.

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Speaker 7: So here's my question, Pete, because I love Brian Thomas,

506
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Speaker 7: and I didn't know what we'd get out of him.

507
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Speaker 7: I didn't watch enough college football last year, but you

508
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Speaker 7: knew he could fly as soon as you saw him

509
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Speaker 7: in camp. But was he gonna be polished enough as

510
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Speaker 7: a rat receiver? I know there were some questions coming

511
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Speaker 7: out of LSU with his hands. He was always the

512
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Speaker 7: number two behind neighbors, so it was easier for him.

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Speaker 7: So I think there was questions coming in could he

514
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Speaker 7: really even you? And I? I remember I asked you

515
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Speaker 7: and I said, is he a true number one? And

516
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Speaker 7: he said, I'm not sure he's a number one, but

517
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Speaker 7: he's a good player. Everything we've seen so far would

518
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Speaker 7: tell you that he's a number one. My question, Pete,

519
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Speaker 7: is he can he be that alpha number one Chase Jefferson.

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Speaker 7: I think he can because of the kill set, and

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Speaker 7: I love his attitude and toughness, and he has a

522
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Speaker 7: little bit of you know, subtle swagger. The way he

523
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Speaker 7: does things.

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Speaker 6: You know what, else is fun to watch too.

525
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Speaker 5: When he doesn't get the football, I mean, he gotta

526
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Speaker 5: be careful about it sometimes, but like and I'll give

527
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Speaker 5: you an example. There was a play on the goal line.

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Speaker 5: In fact, I think he checked it down to ATN

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Speaker 5: on third, third and goal.

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Speaker 6: Do you remember the play?

531
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Speaker 5: There was no way ATM was getting the goal from

532
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Speaker 5: like that was that after he took his stupid, his

533
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Speaker 5: stupid stet bounce. Yeah yeah, okay, it's third down from

534
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Speaker 5: the twelve. There's no way etn. They're dropping in his

535
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Speaker 5: own cover. There's no way he's getting there. But if

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Speaker 5: you go back and watch that play and there wasn't

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Speaker 5: a pressure on mac Jones on that play. You got

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Speaker 5: Thomas clear into the back end line for touchdown and

539
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Speaker 5: you could see his reaction.

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Speaker 6: As soon as he checked it down. He knew he

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Speaker 6: missed him and he wasn't getting in. And I like that. Okay.

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Speaker 5: Receivers always, and you know you play with two of them,

543
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 5: they always want the ball.

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Speaker 6: They always have to have the ball.

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Speaker 5: When they don't get the ball, they can plain about it,

546
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Speaker 5: and I'm okay with that. You just can't go pass

547
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Speaker 5: the line like aj Brown probably went past the line

548
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Speaker 5: last week in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 6: You can't go pass the line.

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Speaker 5: But I like the competitive drive of the kid.

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Speaker 6: The the stride.

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Speaker 5: The stride is incredible when he gets the ball in

553
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Speaker 5: his hands, that long striding that he has. He I mean,

554
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Speaker 5: he's been times, I think the second fastest in the

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Speaker 5: league this year.

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Speaker 7: I'll say, Pete, you know it jumps out of me.

557
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Speaker 7: Is two things. Picking up on what you're saying because

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Speaker 7: I agree with everything you just said, and the I

559
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 7: think it was the first half, maybe the second half,

560
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 7: he catches that crosser. It's his own coverage. The safety's

561
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Speaker 7: coming down has the angle and Brian catches the ball

562
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Speaker 7: and just separates.

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Speaker 10: And it looks effortless and he's just pulling away and

564
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Speaker 10: even when he gets those bubbles, it doesn't look like

565
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Speaker 10: he's moving and he's just eating up yards.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he is abjectively fast.

567
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Speaker 7: He has a natural like feel of where to go

568
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 7: and to pick up yards. And then the big thing

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Speaker 7: that and I can't remember the last time we had this.

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Speaker 7: I mean, the closest since I've played would be Alan Robinson,

571
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Speaker 7: who's I'm not even comparing the two, but Alan Robinson

572
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Speaker 7: was great with that fifty to fifty ball. But it

573
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Speaker 7: reminds me of like remember when Jimmy was when we played.

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Speaker 7: If the ball was thrown deep, like you knew that

575
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Speaker 7: Jimmy was either gonna come up with it or he

576
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 7: was gonna get past interference, like like the ball in

577
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 7: the air, he was gonna go win and get it.

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Speaker 7: Every time we throw it deep to Brian Thomas, I

579
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Speaker 7: get this feeling like he's gonna go get.

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Speaker 6: It, like you don't get the one in the end

581
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Speaker 6: zone though.

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Speaker 7: Then or he's gonna get it.

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Speaker 6: Should he have caught.

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Speaker 3: The one in the end zone a pretty good ball.

585
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Speaker 5: I thought it was a little high, but I thought

586
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Speaker 5: little normally he would catch that though, But what I.

587
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Speaker 7: Thought he could do because he kind of ran through

588
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 7: it and jumped, But like if he would have like

589
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 7: gathered himself and went up and tried to high point it.

590
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Speaker 3: I think was it last week that pack j Jones

591
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: actually overthrew him deep like it's almost impossible to do.

592
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Speaker 6: He got him coming out of the break on that

593
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Speaker 6: one third down place.

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Speaker 7: What a great route that was again, I mean he's

595
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Speaker 7: wide open.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right.

597
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Speaker 7: But by the way, on that drive, it was that

598
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Speaker 7: one and then the Parker Washington ran a great out too,

599
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Speaker 7: and Max sailed him.

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Speaker 3: Pete, you're right. That twenty two point one five miles

601
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Speaker 3: per hour on the week five eighty five yard touchdown.

602
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Speaker 3: The second fastest ball carrier in the league this season,

603
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Speaker 3: Cavante Turpini of Dallas is only faster.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I mean it's incredible, and he's and he runs

605
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Speaker 5: he makes it look like, Okay, I'm gonna go back

606
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Speaker 5: to the touchdown on that. He beat the Stiggers kid

607
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Speaker 5: on the one on the yesterday.

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Speaker 6: That route that's growing. He wouldn't do that. He wouldn't.

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Speaker 6: He wasn't doing that in week two, three or four.

610
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Speaker 5: That's that's a kid who's learned how to run his routes,

611
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Speaker 5: and that's gonna make him even more dangerous.

612
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Speaker 7: I just like when people try to chase him, they

613
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 7: can't catch him.

614
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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, if he gets loose, look out.

615
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Speaker 7: I mean he's like so like the like we've been.

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Speaker 7: It's been such a negative year three and eleven. Nothing's

617
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Speaker 7: gone well, it's just miserable. But I'm telling you, I

618
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Speaker 7: didn't think coming into the season when we started that

619
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Speaker 7: I'd be leaving this season. Say, Brian Thomas is a

620
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Speaker 7: number one receiver.

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Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be in that class.

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Speaker 7: I really do like he is.

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Speaker 5: That's why, you know, That's why people always say to me.

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Speaker 5: They say to me a lot on Twitter. I always say,

625
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Speaker 5: this guy should if they if they make a change,

626
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Speaker 5: it'd be a great job to go to.

627
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Speaker 6: And they say, well, what do you got? What's there?

628
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Speaker 6: There is stuff there, So let's talk about what we have.

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Speaker 3: We'll come back. Let's do that. When we come back,

630
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Speaker 3: we've gotta get to a break here. We'll come back,

631
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Speaker 3: we'll dig into this a little bit more on the

632
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Speaker 3: offensive side of what's there for the Jaguars. We had.

633
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Speaker 3: We also have draft talk coming up tonight. Pete's gonna

634
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Speaker 3: love that. And then we'll keep it real. That's in

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Speaker 4: I couldn't be more happy for both those guys. You know,

643
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Speaker 4: you know, this is a great opportunity for Brenton, and

644
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 4: he really he really rose to the occasion. And you

645
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Speaker 4: talk about a great, humble kid that plays tough, place

646
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Speaker 4: physical and and you know the type of type of

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Speaker 4: player that that we know that he is. And then

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Speaker 4: of course b t you know, you just see the.

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Speaker 6: You know, a top receiver in this league.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a good young receiver that that's gonna

651
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Speaker 4: continue to get better. And and you know, as we

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Speaker 4: get you know, as we get Trevor back, and you

653
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Speaker 4: know all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's a good combination to.

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Speaker 3: Uh, you know, to build around head coach Doug Peterson.

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Speaker 3: Strange and Brian Thomas Junior. We just discussed those guys

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Speaker 3: and we left off with what is there? What do

668
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Speaker 3: you have moving ahead? Let's start on offense after this season?

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Speaker 3: What are you most excited to see on that side

670
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Speaker 3: of the ball.

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Speaker 5: Well, me personally, I think you look at the whole group.

672
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: You have your quarterback. Now he's got to get better.

673
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 5: But you have your quarterback, you have a number one

674
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 5: wide receiver, you have two.

675
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Speaker 6: Now you have a.

676
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Speaker 5: Dual threat tight end, a guy who can block and catch,

677
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 5: and you have a pass catching tight end. You have

678
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Speaker 5: a young slot receiver who I think is getting better

679
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 5: by the week.

680
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Speaker 6: So what's sawt of light from that group? That core group?

681
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Speaker 6: You want to go to the running back you got

682
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Speaker 6: a power runner.

683
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Speaker 5: And by the way, there were some things yesterday and

684
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 5: yesterday's game, I didn't think the running backs had that

685
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Speaker 5: great day.

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Speaker 6: Even though they ran. There were they were a little

687
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 6: they were.

688
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: A little hesitant at times and bounced it a couple

689
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 5: of times when they hit the hole was right in

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Speaker 5: front of him.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you agree with me, Tony.

692
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: I thought there were a couple of times where Etn

693
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: bounced it when he had the hole right in front

694
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Speaker 5: of him. But I think as a group, you have

695
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Speaker 5: a nice nuclears there. And by the way, since the

696
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 5: left tackle has been paid, holy cowie's been good. I mean,

697
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 5: it's like a different dude there. And maybe it's just

698
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 5: because he knows he's the guy now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So I mean, if you look at this offense,

700
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Speaker 7: I agree with Pete. You have your quarterback. I'm still

701
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Speaker 7: I'm a believer that I said it. I've said it

702
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 7: multiple times. We will win the super Bowl with Trevor

703
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 7: Lawrence at quarterback. He will win the Super Bowl. Does

704
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 7: he need to get better? Absolutely, Everyone needs to get

705
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 7: better to do that. By the way, the whole organization

706
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 7: needs to get better to do that. I gree with

707
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 7: Pete on Brian Thomas. We've killed that and beating that

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Speaker 7: one today. I mean, we all believe that. I love

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Speaker 7: Brenton Strange. I'm gonna leave Evan Ingram out right now

710
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 7: because he's going in his last year of his deal.

711
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 7: But let's just like, you have a young a young

712
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 7: player friendly contract, who's a I think has a chance

713
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 7: to be a really good tight end. You have two

714
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 7: bookend tackles. Anton did not. I don't think Anton's had

715
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 7: a great year this year. He needs to get better,

716
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Speaker 7: but he's a good player.

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Speaker 6: It wasn't great. It wasn't great On Sunday.

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Speaker 7: He had a bad first half, a couple of penalties.

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00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 7: He struggled McDonald at times. Listen the left tackle three

720
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Speaker 7: games in a rows. Is he getting paid just I mean,

721
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Speaker 7: he was great, And the question with Walker was consistency

722
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 7: in the pass game. In his protection, He's been outstanding,

723
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Speaker 7: Ye outstanding in the protection, and we knew he was

724
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Speaker 7: a good run blocker, and he continues to do a

725
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 7: good job and be physical in the run game. I

726
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 7: like what Parker Washington has done. I'm not ready to

727
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 7: say he's a starting slot in this league, but he's

728
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 7: getting better and he's had a good year. He's run

729
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 7: some really nice route and I think he's dynamic with

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Speaker 7: the ball in his hands after the running catch. And

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Speaker 7: I think he's a tough guy. He's a tough kid,

732
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Speaker 7: and you have, like the big question is going to be,

733
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Speaker 7: you know, you had Bigsby for two more years under contract.

734
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Speaker 7: The big question is going to be what do you

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00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 7: do with Etn. He's going to his fifth year. You

736
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 7: don't have to make a decision this offseason, but it's

737
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 7: coming up, and he's gonna have a big cap number

738
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Speaker 7: next year, so I think you got to look at that.

739
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Speaker 7: But you have you have a you have a back.

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Speaker 6: So if you exercise the option on him though.

741
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Speaker 7: No I know, I mean he's here next year, but

742
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 7: he has a big cap number.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that fifth year is six million and change. I

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Speaker 3: think yep, and so.

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Speaker 5: I did.

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Speaker 6: I didn't think he ran that well on Sunday.

747
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Speaker 7: It's not huge, but well, I think t used correctly.

748
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Speaker 7: He's very good in the past game open field. It

749
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 7: does a good job. I do tend to think that

750
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 7: he bounces it too much.

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00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 6: He did on Sunday about three times at times.

752
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Speaker 7: But he's a good football player, no doubt about it.

753
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 7: So at least for next year, you have two backs,

754
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 7: and really what you got to focus on is the

755
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 7: interior that offensive line because you have an aging center

756
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 7: and an aging right guard, which, by the way, I

757
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 7: think Brandon Sheriff has done a good this year. I

758
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 7: questioned them not doing something at that position because of

759
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Speaker 7: his age and the injury history. He's been good.

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Speaker 6: I mean he's been He's been better than the center

761
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Speaker 6: of the last month.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's he's tough man. He does a good job.

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Speaker 7: He I mean, it's like this year, the more beat

764
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 7: up he's gotten, the more physical he's playing. Like I'm

765
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Speaker 7: telling you, like now, the big question is going in

766
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Speaker 7: next year. It would be Brandon Sheriff's eleventh year and

767
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 7: he's beat up I mean the guy, the guy's warrior.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I got so much respect for Brandon Sheriff

769
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Speaker 7: because at his age on a three and eleven team

770
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Speaker 7: going the wrong way and he's beat the hell, he's

771
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Speaker 7: not blinking and looking for the sideline. He won't come out.

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Speaker 7: I mean, at one point in the game yesterday I

773
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Speaker 7: was watching, he's grabbing his arm. I could tell he

774
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Speaker 7: hurt his shoulder. It's already banged up, obviously in pain.

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Speaker 7: Didn't even look to the.

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Speaker 6: Sideline, the line, the line as a whole. Aside from

777
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Speaker 6: Harrison's problems that they were okay on.

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Speaker 7: I thought they were fine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and there wasn't the time they ran the.

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Speaker 5: Ball find yeah, I thought, And there were holes, I said,

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Speaker 5: I thought there were holes there that that ETN missed.

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Speaker 7: I thought Anton struggled. I think Anton needs that. The

783
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Speaker 7: kid the kiddies, the guy's playing against Will McDonald's the

784
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Speaker 7: fourth is a speed guy. And my critiqueould be like,

785
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Speaker 7: know who you're blocking, get off the ball, make him

786
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 7: bully you and take away, just set inside out off

787
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Speaker 7: the ball and say if you want to run me over,

788
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Speaker 7: go for good luck because he can't have you watched,

789
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Speaker 7: I thought Walker little did a good job when McDonald

790
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Speaker 7: was on that side. And so, I mean, but Anton

791
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 7: is talented, like I I I still think Anton's gonna

792
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Speaker 7: be a very good player.

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Speaker 6: So three fists of the line is also back.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because Ezra and I thought Azra played well.

795
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Speaker 5: He played on Sunday and well, there were a couple

796
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 5: of times where where Quin Williams, who's a beast.

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Speaker 6: You know, God, come on.

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Speaker 7: In this league, you're not gonna have five Pro Bowl caliber.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, he's a he's a starting caliber,

801
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Speaker 7: tough guy who you can go win football games with.

802
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 5: The So you go into the season. You feel good

803
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 5: about your left side of your offensive line. You feel

804
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 5: good about the right tackle because he's going to get better.

805
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 5: You feel good about your quarterback. You feel good about

806
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 5: your number one wide receiver, you feel good about Strange,

807
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Speaker 5: and you feel pretty good about the two running backs.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Now, what I really don't feel good about is

809
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 7: this team has not built their line of scrimmage with

810
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 7: any real depth or developmental guys that you feel like

811
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Speaker 7: you can develop into the future of futures. Order no,

812
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Speaker 7: and and.

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Speaker 5: And you have to say if Sheriff and Morse both

814
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 5: walked away decided they didn't want to play.

815
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Speaker 6: You be in trouble.

816
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 7: You have no one to roll in there say okay,

817
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 7: we feel good now. You were hoping Cooper Hodges, and

818
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 7: he had shown potential, but he trashed his knee, and

819
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 7: who knows if he ever plays again.

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Speaker 3: I have a question, if we're so excited about all

821
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 3: these guys, why didn't they do it this year?

822
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Speaker 7: They didn't play well.

823
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Speaker 5: Because well, well Rick Little wasn't starting at left tackle,

824
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 5: but how long has he been starting at left tackle?

825
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 7: Jesse Walker Little news starter. I mean, I mean Brenton.

826
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 6: Street, Cleveland, Cleveland was hurt.

827
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Speaker 7: But I'll even say it differently JP because I said

828
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 7: it earlier. You have to look at the entire organization.

829
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 7: We're just picking out. We are now going from individuals.

830
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 7: This isn't fantasy football where you just plug guys in

831
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 7: say oh we got this guy, great, I'm gonna go win.

832
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 7: It's a team sport. It's how you build it, it's

833
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 7: how you do everything. I mean, you gotta look at everything.

834
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 7: And I'm saying that as a person not down there

835
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 7: all the time. So I'm not calling balls and strikes

836
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 7: at this point because I'm not there every day. I'm

837
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 7: not there very often on a daily basis. However, you're

838
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 7: three and eleven. You lost six of seven to finish

839
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 7: the season last year. Well, that's the other question that

840
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 7: makes you four and eighteen. Something's not right.

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Speaker 6: Well, here's the other part of that. JP.

842
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 5: You asked that question of the guys we just mentioned,

843
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 5: how many of them were top ten at their position?

844
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 7: The answer is today, none.

845
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 6: None, zero, none, not a one.

846
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 7: Okay, But let me ask you a different question, Pete.

847
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 7: How many of the guys we just talked about have

848
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 7: the ability and potential to be top ten at their position?

849
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 5: The quarterback okay one, the wide receiver two, the left tackle.

850
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 6: Three, that might be it.

851
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 7: I disagree.

852
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 6: Where's where are you going?

853
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 7: I think both the right tackle on your tight end

854
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 7: can be top ten players.

855
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 6: Boy, you're really optimistic today.

856
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 7: I am. I am high on Britain strange and and

857
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 7: I'll give Jeff Logman he was on it first, but

858
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 7: probably it's starting in about week two or three for

859
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 7: me watching that dude block on the limited reps he

860
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 7: got and how he attacked people and the want to

861
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 7: the physicality, Well.

862
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 6: That was the that was the book on him last

863
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 6: year and he didn't block very well.

864
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 7: I'm telling you whatever he did in the off season,

865
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 7: doing it and doing more of.

866
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Speaker 3: It this offseason, guys, let's come back. We're going to

867
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Speaker 3: get to the defensive side of this conversation and keeping

868
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: it real. That's in a little bit. We'll come back though,

869
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: Pete and talk about the draft order quickly because this

870
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 3: draft talk time, the Jaguars have been eliminated. Like we said,

871
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: defensive part of that coming up. And then in the

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00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 3: second hour, in a few minutes, fanatics, fan questions, much more.

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Speaker 3: Ahead is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back is Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans,

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Speaker 3: j P Shadrick, Pete, Frisco, Tony Bisselli. Final a few

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Speaker 3: minutes of the first hour. The final home game of

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four regular seasons coming up Sunday, December

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Speaker 3: twenty ninth, the fan appreciation game the Jaguars taking on

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00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans, and a lock in your seats for

880
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 3: the divisional matchup to try to sweep the Titans this year.

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Speaker 3: Go to Jaguars dot com slash tickets well uh, Pete,

882
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 3: this might be your favorite segment of the year because

883
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars, with the loss yesterday, moved up to number

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Speaker 3: four in the current draft order for the twenty twenty

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00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: five NFL. Yes, and they would that win the other week.

886
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: Moved out of the number one spot for the moment,

887
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 3: but they're right there in the top five, fat number

888
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 3: four with three weeks to go.

889
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think the Giants are going to win

890
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 5: a game, so I don't think they're getting that one.

891
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 5: But they could end up at number two, which would

892
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 5: still have value because there's two quarterbacks and you know,

893
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 5: you look cam Ward and should do Urs Sanders are

894
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 5: the two quarterbacks, and so you want to get one

895
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 5: of those guys. So if Jacksonville has the number two pick,

896
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 5: it's much like the number one pick.

897
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 6: There's gonna be value in it. They play the Raiders

898
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 6: next week.

899
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 3: The Raiders played tonight, Membo.

900
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 5: Lose to the Raiders, lose to the Raiders, lose to

901
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 5: the Raiders, and then they can end up with the

902
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,479
Speaker 5: you know, with the second pick.

903
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 7: Possibly, yeah, I I don't think. I don't think Giants

904
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 7: are gonna win again. I don't either the Raiders. I

905
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 7: don't could very well know. I don't see us losing

906
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 7: the Raiders. They're gonna have a third quarterback.

907
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Speaker 6: No, Max Crosby, Does that count as the West Coast?

908
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Well the history says it's not great on

909
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 5: the West Coast.

910
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Speaker 7: I actually think because I just don't see us losing

911
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 7: the rest of the games.

912
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 5: I mean, if they do, it's the easiest schedule the

913
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 5: rest of the way of anybody in the league.

914
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 7: Well, that's why, that's why good, That's why I don't

915
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 7: think we're going to I actually think we'll probably end

916
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 7: up moving down a little bit in the draft. I

917
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Speaker 7: think we'll end up with four or five wins, so

918
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 7: we'll end up still top ten.

919
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 6: But four or five. You think they have a chance

920
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 6: to sweep the last three games?

921
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 7: No, I said four or five wins. We have three now,

922
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 7: so I think we could win one or two of

923
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Speaker 7: the last three.

924
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 6: I don't. Yeah, maybe one.

925
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Speaker 3: Well, we'll discuss this a little bit more when we

926
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Speaker 3: come back as well. There's a lot left on the

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Speaker 3: table today after three and eleven start. Second hour of

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Speaker 3: the program coming up, will keep it real fanatics fan

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Speaker 3: questions plenty more ahead. It is Jaguars happy Hour presented

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Speaker 3: by Jet Hoolme Loan.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to get an opportunity.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're still trying to go out and compete

933
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Speaker 4: to win the game, right so but if you get

934
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: a chance to play one of your young players and

935
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Speaker 4: it's a good time to do it, then we'll do it.

936
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Speaker 3: Hey. Coach Doug Peterson earlier today on playing some younger

937
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 3: players down the stretch. Welcome back. It's our two of

938
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Speaker 3: Jaguars Happy Hour after a week fifteen lost JP Shadwick,

939
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Speaker 3: Tony Vasselli, Pete Prisco. The second Hour is presented by

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Speaker 3: Mister Chubby's Wings before the game, after the game, and

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943
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Speaker 3: Style Wing today. All were fantastic. Had a sample of each.

944
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Speaker 3: We're unten to XXL Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. Jaguars

945
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 3: in a back and forth battle yesterday failed in the

946
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: fourth quarter of the defense, gave up explosive plays all

947
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 3: quarter long and killed their hopes. Rogers and Adams connected

948
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,479
Speaker 3: time and again, and the Jets beat the Jaguars thirty

949
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: two to twenty five. Young players on offense look good.

950
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 3: Brian Thomas junior Brenton Strange especially stepped in and played well.

951
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: The Jags now fall to three and eleven. They are

952
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Speaker 3: back to number four in the twenty twenty five NFL

953
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 3: Draft order at the moment. Three games now to go.

954
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Speaker 3: This week it's Vegas baybe to face the hapless two

955
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Speaker 3: and eleven Raiders. They played a knight by the way,

956
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Speaker 3: and then home against the Titans and on the road

957
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 3: against the Colts. So we'll see moving down the stretch

958
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Speaker 3: and time now, gentlemen for keeping it real. Presented by nobody.

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Speaker 7: Hey, is it is it? Raiders Bears tonight?

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Speaker 5: No Raiders found there's two games tonight Vikings Bears too.

961
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 5: By the way, the NFL has about forty games in

962
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Speaker 5: the next ten days.

963
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 3: Unbelievable, right, there's cramming them in.

964
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 6: It's amazing.

965
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 5: You got two on Saturday, you got one on Thursday,

966
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 5: two on Saturday, then you have Sunday, and you got Monday,

967
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 5: you got Christmas two, and then you got I mean it's.

968
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Speaker 3: Saturday, right, Yeah, that's how they do it. We had

969
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Speaker 3: half of this sea.

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Speaker 7: Is any NFL fan complaining?

971
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Speaker 6: No?

972
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: No, one day they will watch all of them every

973
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,840
Speaker 3: day of the week. We had the offensive side of

974
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: this discussion earlier. What do you have? What are you

975
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 3: excited about? Moving ahead? But we'll keep it real now

976
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 3: on the defensive side, moving ahead for a defense that

977
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: hasn't played well statistically all year and certainly in key

978
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 3: moments late in games. That was proven again yesterday. What

979
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 3: players on defense are you most excited about beyond this season?

980
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: Moving ahead? You know what you have in contracts long term?

981
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: What do you like guys well?

982
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Speaker 5: Aside from yesterday, I think the two have played well

983
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 5: this year.

984
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 6: They're not I mean that both of them. They weren't

985
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Speaker 6: good on Sunday.

986
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Speaker 5: I mean, they weren't awful on Sunday, just didn't generate

987
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 5: the pass rush I thought they should and would have.

988
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 5: I think Tyson Campbell had a rough go of at

989
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 5: times on Sunday, But that's a tough ass to cover

990
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 5: that guy. I mean, he's one of the best route

991
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 5: runners who's ever played in this league. But I think

992
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: he's someone used to be excited about. I mean, then

993
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 5: you can probably end the conversation there, at least at

994
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 5: least right now.

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00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 7: Tony I think he definitely had more issues on defense,

996
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 7: which is interesting because you invested a lot on that

997
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 7: side of the ball.

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00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 5: Well, which brings By the way, let me let me

999
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 5: just bring this up while we're talking about the defense.

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Speaker 6: One of your free agents didn't play a snap.

1001
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: Ronald Darby did not touch the field.

1002
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 5: Pete, your other defensive lineman free agent, didn't register on

1003
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 5: the stat sheet, and he played and he played. Yeah, so,

1004
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 5: and if you really want to continue going through the

1005
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 5: free agent class, the one wide receiver wasn't doing much

1006
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 5: and he's hurt, so they got little banged for that buck.

1007
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,240
Speaker 5: I gotta tell you that right now. And the center

1008
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 5: has been better than what they had, but he hadn't

1009
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 5: been dominant. So you look at what they did in

1010
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 5: the offseason. If you had to give a grade to

1011
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Speaker 5: that free agency class considering the money they gave them,

1012
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 5: that's an f.

1013
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Speaker 6: Well.

1014
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Speaker 7: And if you look at the draft, I mean in

1015
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Speaker 7: twenty one, you use the second round, high second rounder,

1016
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 7: almost the first rounder, the second rounder on Tyson Campbell

1017
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 7: the next then paid them the next year. You you

1018
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 7: invested two first rounders, and really two first rounders and

1019
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 7: a second or third rounder because you had to trade

1020
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 7: up to get Devin Lloyd. You get Devin Lloyd and

1021
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 7: Trayvon Walker and twenty three. Who was their first rounder

1022
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 7: in twenty three I'm drying a blank.

1023
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 3: Anton, Harrison Anton.

1024
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 7: And then in the second round, well that was when

1025
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 7: they took Strange and yeah, the offense, it was more offense.

1026
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 7: And then this year you drafted a de tackle in

1027
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:34,839
Speaker 7: the top of.

1028
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Speaker 6: The second round who is an actor for most of

1029
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 6: the year.

1030
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Speaker 7: So you've invested you know, some capital.

1031
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 6: Well capital and money.

1032
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Speaker 7: Yeah. No, I'm just saying and so, and the defense

1033
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 7: is historically banned this year. I mean they struggle, and

1034
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 7: they struggled down the stretch last year with a bunch

1035
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 7: of missed assignments and issues last year down the stretch.

1036
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 7: Who am I excited about? I think both ends. Absolutely.

1037
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 7: I think Tyson Campbell is a good good corner. Do

1038
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 7: I think he's is he played like a shutdown corner? No,

1039
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 7: but he's good. He's a good player. Campbell's a good player.

1040
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 6: That's it.

1041
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 3: Jaron Jones, I'm excited about.

1042
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 6: Jarring Jones will be John Jones is a good player.

1043
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 3: He's played better lately, right, I mean he's he's gotten

1044
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 3: better as it's gone along.

1045
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 5: I think, yes, yeah, that's somebody you could, you could,

1046
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 5: you'd like to have Jarion Jones on your team.

1047
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 7: Yes, I like Jaron Jones. I think Devin Lloyd's is

1048
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 7: sam Sam linebacker.

1049
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 5: Which means he plays two downs essentially.

1050
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 7: I didn't say how much he'd play.

1051
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 5: I'm saying, but before you drafted him, that's not that's

1052
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 5: not quite what you thought you get.

1053
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 7: Out of it. But he's on your team, so it

1054
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 7: doesn't matter.

1055
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 6: I get it. But I'm just I'm doing the valuation

1056
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 6: based on the rock.

1057
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 7: I think he's just starting SAM linebacker in his league,

1058
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 7: is my point.

1059
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: Yes, all the positions you guys have mentioned, and Pete,

1060
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 3: you've talked about this before, are all on the outside

1061
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 3: of the defense, interior, D line, middle of the linebacker corps.

1062
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 3: The safeties are not on your list right now.

1063
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 6: Well, okay, I do think Mason Smith has talent and can.

1064
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 6: He just has to.

1065
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 5: And there were a couple of plays he made in

1066
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 5: the run game on you know, he got down the

1067
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 5: line and made a couple point but he he's got

1068
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 5: to learn how to disengage.

1069
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 6: It's yeah, he's got to learn how to use his hands.

1070
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 5: I don't I think not playing him early in the

1071
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 5: season heard him, whether it was his fault or whoever's fault,

1072
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 5: he didn't play, and he didn't He hasn't learned how

1073
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 5: to play the position yet. He is a powerful man

1074
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 5: who needs to learn how to play the position, and

1075
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 5: that shows up on tape.

1076
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,240
Speaker 7: You know. One of the things that it is disappointing

1077
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 7: because I thought he'd have a big year Cisco and

1078
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 7: I thought he was part of the future at safety.

1079
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 6: He regressed and he hasn't had a good year. He's gone.

1080
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 7: I hope that Antonio Johnson could be a guy. He's

1081
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 7: a young player.

1082
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 6: Still, have you.

1083
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 5: Seen anything from him when he's been starting back there

1084
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 5: that leads you to.

1085
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 7: Believe that I'm hopeful. How about that?

1086
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 6: I don't.

1087
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 5: I mean no, I yeah, you could be hopeful, but

1088
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,759
Speaker 5: I haven't seen anything from him. So so to answer

1089
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 5: your question, JP, there's three players, you could three three

1090
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 5: or four players?

1091
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 6: Three and a half. Let's say that you can really

1092
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 6: be excited about it.

1093
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 7: I think I think at least four. I was gonna

1094
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 7: say four and a half.

1095
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 5: Where's four? Where's four and a half? Jerry and Jones?

1096
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 5: You count him as the half? No, he's a full Okay,

1097
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 5: so you're given Lloyd the half. Yeah, okay, So so

1098
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 5: of all the assets and money spent on that side

1099
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 5: of the ball, because there's a lot of money spent

1100
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 5: on that side of the.

1101
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 6: And assets.

1102
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 5: How many linebackers have they drafted and money have they

1103
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 5: spent on that position?

1104
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 3: A whole lot.

1105
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 7: But Pete, I'm gonna go, but Pete, let's let's I'm

1106
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 7: want to take it a little further because here's a

1107
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 7: because I do think there's like I think fer you

1108
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 7: can win football games with him as your middle linebacker

1109
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 7: and surround him. I think I think Ventro Miller has

1110
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 7: a chance to be a good, good linebacker like he's shown.

1111
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 7: He's shown stuff. When the guys I listed are like

1112
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 7: where you're like starters that you can build around. I

1113
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 7: think there's other guys on this defense that you go

1114
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 7: win football games with him on the field, the starters,

1115
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,759
Speaker 7: like I like you. If you watch him, he runs around,

1116
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 7: he's always in the right position. Is he gonna be a.

1117
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 6: Is he a game is he? Is he a game changer?

1118
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 6: So it's okay.

1119
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 7: You know a lot of teams have middle linebackers.

1120
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 6: Great, it's great to have guys who are like game changers.

1121
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,919
Speaker 6: If you have other things around them.

1122
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 7: That's my point. That's what like. So I just want

1123
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 7: to make.

1124
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 6: A little of money to not be a game changer.

1125
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 7: The way we just described it is that you only

1126
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 7: have like four guys three and a half or four

1127
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 7: or four and a half whatever number one put on

1128
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 7: it that you think are starting caliber guys you can

1129
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 7: go win with. And I don't think that's true. I

1130
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 7: think that's streme all right, But where.

1131
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 6: Where are the top ten players on the defense?

1132
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 3: I like this question. You did that for the offense

1133
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 3: to Pete.

1134
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, well I thought josh heims Allen was. I mean,

1135
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 7: coming into the year, I would have put him up there.

1136
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 6: Yeah with you now?

1137
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 7: At times yeah, he's no.

1138
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 6: Not at times.

1139
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 7: Well, it's hard because I was disappointed with the production yesterday.

1140
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 7: But if you go look at if you just go

1141
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 7: look at his pressure.

1142
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it. He's played okay. I think he's

1143
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 6: really good. But he is he okay, he's.

1144
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 5: Borderline top ten Yeah, I mean before the season he

1145
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 5: was in the top ten in his position.

1146
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 6: After the season, he's borderline.

1147
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: And remember he listens to this. He heard the game

1148
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 3: wreckers stuff last year and turned it up a notch.

1149
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: Down the stretch and all that. So he's gonna more

1150
00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 3: bullish than you.

1151
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 7: Are on Josh him Down.

1152
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 6: I like, I think Josh Allen's a really good football player.

1153
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 5: I'm just the production hasn't been there this year the

1154
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 5: way I thought it would be, and I think that

1155
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 5: has something that has to do with the fact I

1156
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 5: think they they asked him and encourage them to get bigger.

1157
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 7: I would like to see Josh heines down go back

1158
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 7: and lose about ten pounds because think he'd gi him

1159
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 7: a little more speed up the edge.

1160
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,680
Speaker 5: Yes, I agree, Okay, Von Walker a top ten defensive

1161
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 5: end in this league. No is Tyson Campbell a top

1162
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 5: ten cornerback in this league.

1163
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 7: I'd have to go through every corner.

1164
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 6: But Pete, No, he's not.

1165
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 7: I'm second down he is.

1166
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, like some sometimes he can

1167
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: get that.

1168
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 6: You're really freak shit.

1169
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 5: Really Okay, So then basically what you're saying is they

1170
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 5: have two defensive ends who are top ten and we

1171
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 5: know that.

1172
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 7: I'm not saying I'm saying.

1173
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 6: They can't beat they can't both be top ten players.

1174
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 7: I didn't say he was Pete.

1175
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, So he's a top twenty defensive that maybe.

1176
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, But I guess my point is be with like

1177
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 7: how I view Trayvon Walker in a four to three

1178
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 7: in base personnel. If he was your starting left end

1179
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 7: and then on sub he went to three technique, I

1180
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 7: think he'd be a dominant player. I could because with

1181
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 7: his length and power and speed, I think he could

1182
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 7: learn to rush that three technique.

1183
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 6: Saying how long have we've been saying that?

1184
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 7: I think you've give him fits and then first and

1185
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 7: second down outside he is a pain in the rear

1186
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 7: end for any tackle or tight end to deal with

1187
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 7: in the run game.

1188
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 5: The problem is if you put him in on the inside,

1189
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 5: you don't have anybody on the outside.

1190
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 7: Well, go get speed guy. I mean there's listen. One

1191
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 7: of the big issues we talked about the offensive line,

1192
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 7: the lack of depth. You have two defensive ends who

1193
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 7: can even play in this league on the whole roster.

1194
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you know what, you know what this is,

1195
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 6: head and tow it.

1196
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 5: With the fourth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,

1197
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 5: the Jacksonville Jaguars select the linebacker.

1198
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 7: But do you know what I'm saying, Pete, if you

1199
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 7: look at the depth chart.

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01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I get it. Did you see the guy who

1201
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 6: was up yesterday with it? Where the heck did he

1202
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 6: come from?

1203
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 7: Price squad? Yeah, he didn't do much.

1204
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 6: No, no, he didn't do anything. But okay, but why

1205
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 6: is he up all of a sudden the rookie draft

1206
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 6: pick wasn't.

1207
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 7: I think they just wanted to see because the rookie

1208
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 7: Cole can't. He's not He's not ready, not even close.

1209
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 7: Like we started the season with Josh and Trayvond and

1210
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 7: our backups were Miles Cole and Eric Armstead, two guys

1211
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 7: who can't play defensive end this league. It's been proven.

1212
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 7: I knew going in.

1213
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 5: Well, one of them hasn't played defensive end very well,

1214
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 5: and he didn't play inside very well when he went

1215
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 5: in there yesterday.

1216
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 6: I mean, look, let's be real. The roster building of

1217
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 6: the defense has been horrendous. I mean yes, I mean,

1218
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 6: let's be real about it.

1219
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 5: You drafted, you traded up to get the linebacker that

1220
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 5: you now say can't play the linebacker position you wanted

1221
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 5: them to play. You signed a Lua Khan and paid

1222
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 5: him thinking that you were gonna have him for two

1223
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 5: years because you drafted those two one you traded up

1224
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 5: for in Muma who doesn't play at all, and now

1225
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 5: you're playing. You had to pay him again to keep them.

1226
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 5: Then you draft benrel Miller in the fourth round. He

1227
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 5: ends up flashing as a run thumper, so now he's

1228
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:42,479
Speaker 5: on the field, and yet you have all.

1229
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 11: Those guys at that one position and it's filling any

1230
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 11: damn good. Then you don't use the assets at spots

1231
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 11: where you needed to use the assets. You went and

1232
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 11: spent money on two free agents, on three free agents.

1233
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 6: On defense, has Savage been good average at best.

1234
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:07,959
Speaker 5: So basically the roster building process on the defensive side

1235
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 5: of the ball has been horrible. And it's compounded by

1236
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 5: the fact that they're not coached very well.

1237
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, they ended up changing coordinators last year. The whole

1238
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:21,480
Speaker 3: they've had a change and all that in the whole

1239
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 3: middle of the process too.

1240
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 5: Well that and that's why they're bad. I mean, this

1241
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 5: is a bad, bad, bad, bad defense. There's reasons for that.

1242
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 5: But it all starts. You say it all the time, Tony.

1243
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 5: It always starts with the players.

1244
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: You have it, keeping it real, presented by nobody, but

1245
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: it should be presented by Pete and Tony. That's what

1246
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 3: it's presented by. Back in a moment fanatics fan questions,

1247
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: and boy did we have some today? We hadn't some

1248
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 3: most every week after a game like yesterday, it's Jaguars

1249
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.

1250
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to dive into the weeds in that

1251
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 4: one a little bit more, you know.

1252
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 6: And and and really because of where.

1253
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 4: It was on the field, it's not a not a

1254
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 4: play that was gonna hurt you as much because then

1255
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 4: you still had a third down play. We end up

1256
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 4: kicking the field goal there got three points. But you know,

1257
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 4: sometimes just don't get caught up in the emotion of

1258
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 4: the game sometimes and uh, you know, possibly throw it

1259
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 4: away or whatever, find a find a guy.

1260
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 6: But it didn't hurt us in that situation.

1261
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 4: You know, which was which is okay?

1262
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 6: The other one early on, you know.

1263
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,480
Speaker 4: There was a penalty in the end zone when he

1264
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 4: took the long long sackle on that one. Obviously saw

1265
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,440
Speaker 4: the flag thrown there, so that one was nullified. But

1266
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 4: but you know, just just the awareness of the situation.

1267
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson today discussing the mac Jones sack

1268
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 3: when they had second in goal just outside the five.

1269
01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 3: He rolls right outside the numbers and then the steps

1270
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: out of bounds and doesn't throw it away. He comes

1271
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: third and goal from about the eleven. From there they

1272
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: have to settle for a field goal and welcome back.

1273
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 3: It's Jaguars happy hours, Ap Shatwick, Tony Boselli and Pete

1274
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 3: Prisco and football one on one.

1275
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 7: Matt, can I go ahead? I just I disagree with

1276
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 7: Doug on his description. It didn't hurt them. So you're

1277
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 7: saying third and twelve, third and goal from the twelve

1278
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 7: is the same as third and goal from the five

1279
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 7: and a half.

1280
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 6: And what is he doing any quarterback?

1281
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 7: It's an inexcusable play from an NFL quarterback. In my opinion,

1282
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 7: it almost made it.

1283
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 5: Play again because if I remember correctly, was there that

1284
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 5: much pressure on him? I think he left like a

1285
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 5: relatively clean pocket, which he did all day.

1286
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 6: By the way, why is he leaving there?

1287
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 3: There's no reason to leave.

1288
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 6: There's no reason to leave. He did that all day,

1289
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 6: you know. And Tony, but.

1290
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 7: Pete, before we go under the clean pocket and him leaving,

1291
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 7: do you am I wrong about.

1292
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 6: The year twelve is different than third and five? It

1293
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 6: hurt him? Yeah?

1294
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,919
Speaker 7: I mean I didn't understand and listen. In fairness to Doug,

1295
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 7: Doug could just be protecting his backup quarterback, which I get.

1296
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 7: And sometimes as a coach you say stuff to protect

1297
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 7: your players from the podium and I'm hoping that.

1298
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 6: It makes you look like an idiot by saying it.

1299
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 7: Well, sometimes you do, Pete, you know, But I disagree.

1300
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 7: I mean, but if that's what he's doing, that's fine.

1301
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 7: I can still disagree with the comment because as long

1302
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 7: as I've been playing football, third and five is much

1303
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 7: different than third and twelve.

1304
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 6: And what did they get on the on the check down?

1305
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 6: The ETN on the next place?

1306
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 3: They got back to the five, didn't they They got

1307
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 3: back to the five, so they got they run the

1308
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 3: same play and a touchdown.

1309
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 6: I mean, it would have played it differently, but you get.

1310
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: So there you have it. I almost made it look

1311
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 3: like he was trying to get hit on the line

1312
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 3: or something. Maybe get a late hit flat. I don't

1313
01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 3: know who knows.

1314
01:05:58,520 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 7: We're thinking throwing.

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01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 6: Throw it at a bounds you're outside, just throw it

1316
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 6: out a bound. Yeah, I mean, but here here's the

1317
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 6: other thing.

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01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 5: He left the clean pocket there and he did that

1319
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 5: a couple different times on Sunday. There are games where

1320
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 5: you watch and you look at a quarterbacks numbers and

1321
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 5: you go, hey, pretty good.

1322
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 6: Numbers, look pretty good, And.

1323
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 5: Then you go back and watch the tape and you go, no, okay,

1324
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 5: he had the screen, he had the bubble screen or

1325
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 5: fourteen of them or whatever.

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01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 6: He ran.

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01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 5: And he held the ball at times, and he's and

1328
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 5: he left clean pockets, and it just it wasn't. The

1329
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 5: numbers were better than the quarterback play.

1330
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 6: Let's just put it at that.

1331
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 3: He threw the ball forty six times in the game.

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Speaker 6: Would you agree with me, though, Tony, after watching the tape.

1333
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought he anyway. I thought he missed some

1334
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 7: key guys that were wide open late in the game

1335
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 7: that would have changed the outcome.

1336
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 5: I mean there were plays where he and he has

1337
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 5: a tendency to do this where he doesn't put the ball.

1338
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:09,240
Speaker 6: And play well, I didn't play it just it wasn't.

1339
01:07:09,480 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 5: It wasn't very By the way, you guys do remember

1340
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 5: the four straight It was left.

1341
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 6: It's like army football left right, left, right.

1342
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 5: It was like a bubble street to the left bubbles

1343
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 5: me to the right, bubbles meaning the left bubbles to

1344
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 5: the right.

1345
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 7: I was okay with it because they were getting about

1346
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 7: four or five yards.

1347
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 6: I knew you would say that when I said it.

1348
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 6: That's why I know they worked.

1349
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 5: But come on, let's get we can you get a

1350
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 5: little bit more creativity in it?

1351
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 6: Oh?

1352
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 7: I thought, you know, I have no problem with how

1353
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,439
Speaker 7: they called the game yesterday. There were plays to be made.

1354
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 7: I mean, if if I was to being critical in anything,

1355
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 7: I thought they could have run the ball more because

1356
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,040
Speaker 7: they were having they were being they were effective in it.

1357
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 7: But I had no issues with the play coming. I

1358
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 7: thought there was plays to be there. I mean, they

1359
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 7: moved it. They scored, so.

1360
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Speaker 5: There was there was you know what there wasn't. There

1361
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 5: wasn't the Oh my god, they just ran that play

1362
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,560
Speaker 5: on Sunday, you know what I mean, Like they usually

1363
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 5: have one where I pick it out and I go,

1364
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 5: what the hell is that?

1365
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 6: You know what I mean?

1366
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 3: They didn't have double reverse.

1367
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 7: I thought the throwback Touverne was a great, well designed.

1368
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 5: Play, designed, well designed play, and he's probably I don't

1369
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 5: know what he was doing there. If he was waiting

1370
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 5: for the linemen to blo he could have cut off

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01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 5: his butt there and maybe got more, maybe even scored,

1372
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,599
Speaker 5: like right, not there, right, I guess that guy would

1373
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 5: have got him anyway.

1374
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I thought I had no issues with it.

1375
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 6: No, that was a well designed play. I like that play.

1376
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,839
Speaker 6: The screen pass to uh et N was well designed.

1377
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 7: What did you think about that penalty? And Brian Thomas Junior.

1378
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 6: In terms of what he did on that play, I

1379
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 6: thought it was.

1380
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was very tick attack. I mean you could

1381
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:54,000
Speaker 5: have called that either way, but it was ticky tack.

1382
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 5: But that play was designed well because they called him

1383
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 5: in a blitz.

1384
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought, I know, she's the way the way.

1385
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 5: No, the game was not then, the game was not

1386
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 5: poorly called. I just I just like to see more

1387
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 5: pre snap stuff going on.

1388
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 6: You know what I mean. They line up and they're here, here, here,

1389
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 6: and go.

1390
01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 3: I thought we were going to question, well, I'm trying,

1391
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 3: but Pete was on a roll about pop bubs. He

1392
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 3: loves bubble screens.

1393
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,880
Speaker 6: Apparently, no they do.

1394
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,320
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Speaker 3: Ney in December, BTJ went crazy, competitive game, lost to

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Speaker 3: help draft position, a tradition unlike any other.

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Speaker 5: Right, So that guy was happy with the outcome. He's

1402
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 5: he's excited about that.

1403
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 6: He's that's a smart fan right there. That's a smart

1404
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 6: Jaguars fan right there.

1405
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 3: The last two years hasn't been like this though. They

1406
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 3: were rallied two years ago in December and on the

1407
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 3: last day of the season won the division. They crumbled

1408
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 3: in the last month last year, but on the last

1409
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,600
Speaker 3: day of the season lost the division. Hasn't been like

1410
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 3: this in about three years, I guess.

1411
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1412
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,519
Speaker 5: But by the way, doesn't it doesn't it feel like

1413
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 5: that Chargers playoff victory was about eight.

1414
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 3: Years It's unbelievable, right, and he threw four picks of

1415
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 3: that game.

1416
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 7: By the way, Well, that's the problem that needs to change.

1417
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:31,519
Speaker 7: You can't. You can't you know, find magic every four years.

1418
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:35,280
Speaker 6: No, And that's usually when you draft a quarterback.

1419
01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 5: Where they drafted a quarterback, Usually that quarterback gives you

1420
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 5: the sustainable success to hang around Tony.

1421
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 6: That's usually why you're drafting that guy there.

1422
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,640
Speaker 7: And then, and that's why I go back to my

1423
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 7: comment you got to look at the whole I mean,

1424
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 7: I think, and you know, I'm not even commenting because

1425
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 7: I have no idea on what Sean will do at

1426
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 7: the end of the year. That's you know, he'll make

1427
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 7: that decision. But I do I do believe you've gotta

1428
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,080
Speaker 7: you gotta step back and look at the whole thing

1429
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 7: because and we've talked about this a few weeks ago

1430
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 7: on the show. I mean, in so many ways as

1431
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 7: an owner, you look what SHOT's done. He's invested. It's

1432
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 7: not like he's holding the purse strings tight. He invests

1433
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 7: in facilities, invests in players. I mean, it gives them.

1434
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, this isn't a cheap organization.

1435
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 7: And so you got it like something's not working.

1436
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 6: M we just went through the roster. You can figure

1437
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 6: out what's not working. I mean for the most talented

1438
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 6: team in the history of this organization.

1439
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,559
Speaker 5: They had, but that's not to ten guys maybe on

1440
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 5: the whole roster in the entire league.

1441
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 7: We're not going to reltigate that because we know it's not.

1442
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,479
Speaker 5: We're not relitigating. And I'm just saying what they what

1443
01:11:52,479 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 5: what the thought process was.

1444
01:11:54,640 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 7: But okay, it was said, I understand that, but we

1445
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 7: said it from you and I talked about this on

1446
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 7: the show from the beginning. Neither of us thought that.

1447
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 6: No, neither one of us thought that.

1448
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 5: JP didn't think that's somebody in that building thought that,

1449
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 5: and it ain't true, but never is true.

1450
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: Next question from x at Jordan FCCFC Wild on Earth

1451
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 3: that we signed Eric Armstead at defensive end yesterday. No

1452
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: stats on the defensive side. He played twenty two snaps

1453
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 3: in the game, thirty eight percent defense.

1454
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 7: I feel like we picked this up because I don't

1455
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 7: have a good answer, So I'm nothing to say on

1456
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 7: this because I have.

1457
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 6: No idea why you signed to play defensive end.

1458
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 5: I mean he would he would have been playing three

1459
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 5: technique for me the entire season or else he ain't

1460
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 5: playing there.

1461
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,320
Speaker 7: Well, and I'll say this, I think you gotta look

1462
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 7: at this next year because I don't know his exact

1463
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 7: contract situation, but we gave him a bunch of money,

1464
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 7: as my guess is that he's gonna be on this

1465
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 7: roster next year.

1466
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 3: I got it right here, Tony, I've got it right here.

1467
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 3: Next year. Twenty four million dead cap, seventy seven point

1468
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 3: four cap hit next year, going anywhere.

1469
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 7: But I mean it was me off season, sit down,

1470
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 7: talk to talk to Eric and say Eric, next year

1471
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 7: you're playing three technique and you're gonna be a sub

1472
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 7: three technique player and you're gonna that's what you do.

1473
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:17,639
Speaker 7: So let's get ready.

1474
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 6: The question is who's going to be doing a talking

1475
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 6: to I'm.

1476
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 7: Not gonna be I mean, you know, we don't know

1477
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 7: right now, so I'm assuming, like, because that's all we know,

1478
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,519
Speaker 7: it's gonna be Trent and Dug, so they need to

1479
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 7: talk to him.

1480
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 5: I don't say that too loudly because the fans will

1481
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 5: start picketing outside that stadium.

1482
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 7: I'm just telling you that's who are GM and head

1483
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 7: coaches right now.

1484
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 6: I get it. But defensive end, no, was he a

1485
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,439
Speaker 6: good signing? No?

1486
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 3: Next question at j VIL Jaguars. What continues to cause

1487
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 3: the secondary miscues?

1488
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 6: Not sure.

1489
01:13:54,680 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 3: I've seen so many in one season, especially during critical

1490
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 3: drives that could win a game.

1491
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 7: Well, we talked you at the beginning. I mean it's

1492
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:09,680
Speaker 7: it's some combination of coaching and players because it's it's systemic.

1493
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 7: I think you can say it's systemic because it keeps

1494
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 7: on happening, but it.

1495
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 5: Keeps happening with different players and that's that's where it

1496
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 5: becomes a coaching issue.

1497
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 6: One guy that was doing it over and over and

1498
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 6: over and.

1499
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 5: Over again, it wouldn't be a coaching issue. It would

1500
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,640
Speaker 5: be that guy issue. But it's everybody, and it's that

1501
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:30,839
Speaker 5: makes it a coaching issue.

1502
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,800
Speaker 3: That's the proper use of systemic. Tony. I'm proud of you.

1503
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 3: You've improved your vocabulary over the last couple of months.

1504
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 3: When we had this discussion earlier about systematic or systemic,

1505
01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 3: you've corrected it and I appreciate you got better. You

1506
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 3: looked at the tape, you got better. Next questions at no.

1507
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 5: More busts than his secondary that's sim I am sheer

1508
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 5: at thirteen.

1509
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,760
Speaker 3: What do you guys think the wide receiver room will

1510
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 3: look like next season? Also, Thomas is awesome as he.

1511
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 7: Is well again and he signed I don't know what

1512
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 7: the gave Davis contract is.

1513
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 6: You want me to look at up?

1514
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 3: I got it right here too.

1515
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 7: It has not worked out this year, but you know

1516
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 7: it wasn't getting a lot of production and then he

1517
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 7: got hurt. It's back to back years at Christian Kirk

1518
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 7: has missed significant time again. You're gonna have to make

1519
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 7: a decision what you did there, and again I'll go

1520
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 7: to what the cap issue is and and how you

1521
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,840
Speaker 7: you know what the plan is for that player moving forward.

1522
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,160
Speaker 3: By the way, gave Davis dead cap next year twenty

1523
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 3: point three million caphead of six point seven, So.

1524
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 7: Gave Davis will be in the room next year.

1525
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 6: If they should be hopeful that it's less of them game.

1526
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 7: Wow, Bryan Thomas will be there, Parker Washington will be there.

1527
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,000
Speaker 7: I think those are the three that you know will

1528
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 7: be there.

1529
01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:01,680
Speaker 6: Got that cap? That dead cap is twenty million dollars.

1530
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 7: On what's Christian's number?

1531
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:09,799
Speaker 3: Let's see.

1532
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,919
Speaker 6: They gave him thirty nine million dollars.

1533
01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 3: They did, They certainly did.

1534
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 6: I mean you could do a.

1535
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 5: You could do him one of those PowerPoint presentations on

1536
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 5: how not do come.

1537
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 11: On him him him him, Okay, we get that.

1538
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 3: Mean my god, Christian Kirk. To answer your question, Tony,

1539
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 3: this is like the evil Gritch laugh is back.

1540
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 6: Well because I seem mis sell he has his.

1541
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 3: Oh, next year, Christian Kirk has a thirteen point five

1542
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 3: million dollar dead cap twenty four point recap.

1543
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 6: Hit, so he ain't going anywhere either.

1544
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,680
Speaker 7: No, he has a twenty four million cap hit. If

1545
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:09,439
Speaker 7: he's on the team thirteen. If he's gone, it's.

1546
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:14,840
Speaker 5: Dead cap thirteen, So it's thirteen to send him packing.

1547
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,680
Speaker 7: You save eleven if he's not on the on the.

1548
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 6: Team on cap on his cap pit or no?

1549
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 7: Yes?

1550
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 3: Yes?

1551
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 6: Is it? Yes? You read that? I thought he read

1552
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 6: it differently. He's gone. He's gone.

1553
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 5: They were going to try and get rid of him

1554
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 5: if he hadn't gotten hurt this year for the trade deadline.

1555
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,400
Speaker 5: But again, so what's the receiver room look like? Overpaid

1556
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 5: Gabe Davis who doesn't run very well, Brian Thomas Washington

1557
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 5: will be won.

1558
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 6: They need more.

1559
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 7: Well, but I mean, I think what you got to

1560
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 7: hope for Gave Davis is you get the Gave Davis

1561
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 7: that we saw in Buffalo. It didn't work out this

1562
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 7: year for whatever reason. We don't know why. You didn't

1563
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,799
Speaker 7: have the production. It was not I'm sure.

1564
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 6: He hasn't had the production since that.

1565
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 5: The guy that we saw in that playoff game against

1566
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,280
Speaker 5: the Chiefs has never really materialized.

1567
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 6: Well.

1568
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,759
Speaker 7: His high water mark for catches was forty eight coming

1569
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 7: into this year, and.

1570
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 5: JP, what's his right up? What's his yards per catch?

1571
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 5: In his career too? Because he always was a bit

1572
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 5: even though he doesn't run that well. He had a

1573
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 5: big play a reputation.

1574
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:29,400
Speaker 3: You know, right, and Gabe Davis in his career yards

1575
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 3: per catch we're looking at Oh gosh, hang on, I'll

1576
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 3: find it in a second. We all got sixteen point two,

1577
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 3: sixteen point two.

1578
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's good, and I mean that's really good.

1579
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 5: But what like, what are the years like? Does it

1580
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:48,520
Speaker 5: get does it get less.

1581
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 3: As twenty twenty, seventeen point one, twenty twenty one, fifteen

1582
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:56,559
Speaker 3: point seven, twenty twenty two, seventeen point four, twenty twenty three,

1583
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 3: sixteen point six, this year twelve point zero.

1584
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:01,439
Speaker 6: And there's a red flag.

1585
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 5: That's a red flag when a guy is a receiver

1586
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 5: and you go back and look at history of the receivers,

1587
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 5: when their yards for catch and you're that kind of

1588
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:11,640
Speaker 5: guy start going down, that usually is very concerning.

1589
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 7: Yeah, but it's just went down this year. He's only

1590
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 7: twenty five years old. So to write off game, I

1591
01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 7: think it's unfair to write off Gabe.

1592
01:19:20,560 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 5: I'm not writing them off. I'm just saying that if

1593
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,080
Speaker 5: the Gabe Davis you saw.

1594
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 6: This year isn't help him, isn't helping much.

1595
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,760
Speaker 7: No, I mean, but new offense, new situation, you.

1596
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 3: Know, and who knows how injured he really was all year?

1597
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you know who knows.

1598
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, still like he had a knee. So hopefully this

1599
01:19:38,360 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 7: knee gets settled, he gets healthy and comes back in

1600
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 7: great shape and you get the Gabe Davis that was

1601
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 7: in Buffalo where he averaged sixteen yards of care.

1602
01:19:47,240 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 6: I mean when did he have the knee?

1603
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 7: He got knee surgery two three weeks ago?

1604
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 2: Right?

1605
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, But when he was was he hurt leading into that?

1606
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 7: I thought for some reason, and JP maybe I thought

1607
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,960
Speaker 7: there was some injury issue in the off season coming

1608
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 7: into camp for Gabe Davis. I can't remember what it was,

1609
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,720
Speaker 7: but I swear there was something going on.

1610
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 6: Well, if there was, it certainly impacted him being a

1611
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 6: guy that had.

1612
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 5: Any juice because he played all year. When he was

1613
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:19,920
Speaker 5: playing that he didn't have any juice. He didn't look

1614
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 5: like the same guy, so game looked more like a

1615
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 5: tight end than he did a wide receiver.

1616
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 7: Gave Davis will be here next year, Kirk won't be. Yeah,

1617
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 7: I mean you're not have to. I mean let it.

1618
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,720
Speaker 7: I mean you gotta, I mean, you gotta look at

1619
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 7: the whole camp issue in its entirety to understand what

1620
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 7: kind of moves you need to make because obviously Trevor's

1621
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 7: number is gonna escalate next year.

1622
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:46,479
Speaker 5: I mean, well, you also got you gotta save at

1623
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:51,480
Speaker 5: least ten to twelve million for the two inside linebackers

1624
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 5: you're gonna sign.

1625
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 3: Wow, geez. Yeah, Davis had another knee apparently in the

1626
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: off season. I don't know if it's the same knee

1627
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 3: or what, but there was something.

1628
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, so he had something going on. So maybe that

1629
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 7: impacted all year. So I'm gonna give gave the benefit

1630
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:13,639
Speaker 7: of the doubt that this was just a bad year.

1631
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:16,800
Speaker 7: Came in on, it wasn't a hundred percent. Was trying

1632
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,240
Speaker 7: to fight through it. Finally got his knee fixed. He's

1633
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,760
Speaker 7: gonna be healthy going in next year. And you get

1634
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 7: the gave Davis that you know is gonna give you

1635
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 7: forty five to fifty catches at sixteen yards of pop.

1636
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:28,639
Speaker 7: That'd be good.

1637
01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 3: Let's get one more question then at Carnival Thomas, can

1638
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 3: Tony Boselli do a backflip? Could he do one? When

1639
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,919
Speaker 3: he was three hundred pounds?

1640
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 7: I did not know.

1641
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 6: No. Let better didn't do his either, he didn't finish.

1642
01:21:43,479 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 7: I could do I used to be able to a

1643
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 7: front flip on a trampoline.

1644
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,639
Speaker 3: Petz like the Russian pizza out pets like the Russian

1645
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 3: judge the Olympic on a trampoline.

1646
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:58,640
Speaker 7: I've never gotten remember. I tried to do a backflip

1647
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 7: off a high dot like a diving and I couldn't

1648
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 7: force myself to go backwards. I couldn't flip. He couldn't

1649
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 7: do it, So no, there's no chance.

1650
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 6: And no I and to answer a question, nor could

1651
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 6: I know it was.

1652
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 5: That's an amazing What he did do is pretty amazing

1653
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 5: for a guy that big.

1654
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 7: It was great with full pads on.

1655
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 6: That's incredible.

1656
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:25,520
Speaker 5: He didn't he didn't hit the dismount though, I mean.

1657
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 7: It was close enough, because it's something I can't do.

1658
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 6: No, I can't do it either, God bless him.

1659
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:32,160
Speaker 3: He's uh and we're I didn't like it because you

1660
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,679
Speaker 3: get injured on that right if you really do it.

1661
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 7: But he's obviously confident. He clearly didn't have went for it.

1662
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 3: Clearly, there you have it, fanatics, fan questions are in

1663
01:22:42,600 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 3: thank you for the submissions today, and music fans, The

1664
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five season at Daily's Place is right around

1665
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,599
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1666
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 3: April Levigne and much more. More artist announcements coming soon.

1667
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 3: Go to Dailiesplace dot com for tickets and show information.

1668
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:05,720
Speaker 3: And it's Wars Happy Hour presented by mister Chubby's Wings.

1669
01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: Welcome Back into Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Mister Chubby's Wings,

1670
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 3: JP Shadwick, Tony Vaselli, Pete Priscoe, The Jaguars Fall and

1671
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 3: Week fifteen to the New York Jets thirty two, twenty five.

1672
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 3: And now we'll go around the National Football League. We'll

1673
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 3: go through all the games this week, and then a

1674
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 3: little later we'll take a look at the playoff picture

1675
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 3: as it stands through Sunday A week fifteen Thursday and

1676
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 3: just a really bad ball game Rams over the forty

1677
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 3: nine Ers twelve to six. That was on Thursday night.

1678
01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,559
Speaker 3: Cowboys beat the Panthers. I gotta speak to that game

1679
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 3: real quar Yeah, Tony.

1680
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 7: I'm in this family fantasy league and I was made

1681
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:51,280
Speaker 7: the playoffs two years ago. I won the championship. Last

1682
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:52,479
Speaker 7: year I lost in the finals.

1683
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 3: It's great.

1684
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,720
Speaker 7: This year I'm in the playoffs again. I'm playing my

1685
01:23:55,760 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 7: father in law and I have Cooper Cupp. I did

1686
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 7: choose between Cooper Cup and Devonte Adams as my starting receivers.

1687
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 7: Cooper Cup got zero zero zero zero. DeVante Adams had

1688
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:14,879
Speaker 7: forty two points. I will be exiting the playoffs this weekend.

1689
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, you will be. Oh my god.

1690
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 7: And the worst part is my father in law. I'm

1691
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 7: never gonna hear the end of it.

1692
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 6: That's even better.

1693
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: Wow, it's all about the fantasy these days. Cowboys over

1694
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 3: the Panthers thirty to fourteen. Is he to survive in Dallas?

1695
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 5: I think he is in large part because I think

1696
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 5: Jerry knows the biggest part of.

1697
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:38,360
Speaker 6: The problem is himself.

1698
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 5: I mean, Mike McCarthy's a good football coach. It takes players.

1699
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,240
Speaker 6: I mean they don't have many players.

1700
01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,720
Speaker 3: At what point would Jerry ever give that up?

1701
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 6: Not until he gets rid of that team.

1702
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,680
Speaker 3: He ain't get rid of the team. Yeah, yeah, he

1703
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:59,599
Speaker 3: ain't going anywhere. Chiefs over the Browns twenty one to seven.

1704
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 3: But Pat took my homes with the high ankle spraying Pete.

1705
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 5: Would just shut him down to the postseason and risk

1706
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 5: losing to the number one seed.

1707
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,759
Speaker 7: I would I would shut him down for at least

1708
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 7: maybe two weeks. So right now they have what a

1709
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 7: two game lead, the two game lead on the Bills.

1710
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 3: One, that's right, two, But.

1711
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 7: The Bills have the tiebreaker because they beat them. They

1712
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 7: beat them, so as they have one game and I

1713
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,440
Speaker 7: don't know what their schedule.

1714
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:30,240
Speaker 3: Is right here.

1715
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 5: They got three games in ten days.

1716
01:25:35,240 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got the Texans this week, and then they

1717
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 3: got the short that's on the short week, that's on Saturday,

1718
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 3: then Wednesday, Christmas Day at the Steelers, and then they're

1719
01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:44,440
Speaker 3: at the Broncos.

1720
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's not an easy slate, So I think I

1721
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:51,600
Speaker 12: would shut him down until he's He's not gonna be

1722
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 12: one hundred percent, but get him as healthy as possible

1723
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 12: because you've proven you can go on the road and

1724
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 12: win in the playoffs and give them chiefs.

1725
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 6: I agree, it's all about the playoffs for them.

1726
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 7: You can't you can't win without Patrick mahone.

1727
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 5: No, No, it's all about the postseason for them. So

1728
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:10,200
Speaker 5: I'm with you. Do you have to shut him down?

1729
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:10,800
Speaker 5: He shut him down?

1730
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 6: You go to the wildcard route, Yeah, do you believe?

1731
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 6: I mean not the wildcar route, but the.

1732
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 3: Road can Wentz steel one of the or two of these,

1733
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 3: you know.

1734
01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:20,080
Speaker 6: The Texans are very good. He could win. Wentz could

1735
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:20,719
Speaker 6: win that game.

1736
01:26:20,920 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think he could beat the Texans for sure.

1737
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 7: I don't think he's beating the Steelers without Mahomes, but

1738
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 7: they might because t J. Watts was also hurt. And

1739
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 7: the Steelers can't win a football game without TJ. Watt.

1740
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 7: That's been proven.

1741
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 5: And they had one hundred and sixty three yards of

1742
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 5: total offense against the Eagles upside.

1743
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 3: And that's It's a low ankle spray for TJ. Watt,

1744
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 3: not a high one.

1745
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 7: It is, but you got you have to get Patrick

1746
01:26:44,120 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 7: Mahomes healthy, and so a lot of it also depends

1747
01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 7: on the severity of the of the high ankle sprain.

1748
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 7: I mean two years ago, he got a high ankle

1749
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:55,560
Speaker 7: sprain against US, ended up finishing the game. No, he

1750
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 7: didn't fits.

1751
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,320
Speaker 3: And he came in and then he came back late. Yeah,

1752
01:26:58,439 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 3: he came back late.

1753
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:01,559
Speaker 7: And then he and played the rest of the playoffs

1754
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 7: and won the Super Bowl. So the guys obviously, as

1755
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 7: the guys obviously has a high paint tolerance. A few

1756
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 7: years before that, he dislocated his kneecap, only missed two games,

1757
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 7: I believe.

1758
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 6: So did you see what they do at offensive line.

1759
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:16,040
Speaker 5: Yesterday you got to put Tuny outside and he was

1760
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 5: good at it.

1761
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:19,559
Speaker 7: Well, they did that two weeks ago in the second half.

1762
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's done it before. He's done it before too.

1763
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 7: And what Tune he does is it's not pretty, but

1764
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 7: he doesn't get beat right away. If he's gonna get beat,

1765
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 7: it's gonna be linked.

1766
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 5: He he played tackle of college, so he played there before.

1767
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Texans over the Dolphins. Texans are the AFC South

1768
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 3: champions two years in a row. The Commanders over the Saints.

1769
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:45,240
Speaker 3: The Saints went for two at the end and didn't

1770
01:27:45,240 --> 01:27:45,559
Speaker 3: get it.

1771
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 6: Yeah. I mean did you see the clock controversy too?

1772
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 6: I mean they got an extra play that they probably

1773
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 6: should have got.

1774
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 3: Ravens over the Giants thirty five to fourteen. Lamar or

1775
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,200
Speaker 3: Josh Allen, who's your MVP?

1776
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 6: Allen's MVP, but Lamar's right there with him. But they

1777
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 6: have five losses. I mean, it's that's a lot of losses.

1778
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 3: It's a lot of touchdowns though for the quarterback game.

1779
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 5: Big game this week against the Steelers, by the way.

1780
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 3: For the Ravens, absolutely, that's a Saturday game as well.

1781
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 3: Bengals beat the Titans thirty seven twenty seven. The Cardinals

1782
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 3: over the Patriots thirty to seventeen.

1783
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,920
Speaker 5: By the way, everybody in the AFC is happy that

1784
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 5: Joe Burrow and Gang ain't getting into playoffs.

1785
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, starting to get hot, getting hot.

1786
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,360
Speaker 5: By the way, Will Levis was horrible on Sunday, He's done.

1787
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 6: I was wrong, you were wrong.

1788
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,719
Speaker 7: Hey, I saw it. I almost jumped in on Twitter

1789
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,400
Speaker 7: on x Pete when you admitted that. But I'm like,

1790
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:40,759
Speaker 7: I'm not going to jump on my buddy.

1791
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 6: Oh wait, jump on me. I was wrong.

1792
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,120
Speaker 3: Everybody else night.

1793
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 7: To say I told you you were wrong, and I

1794
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 7: told you last week and you didn't believe me, and

1795
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,200
Speaker 7: now you've come to the he makes so many mistakes,

1796
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:53,920
Speaker 7: come to the to the light.

1797
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, you don't have to jump

1798
01:28:57,160 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 3: on him, because everybody else did. Tony so fine. Broncos

1799
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 3: over the Colts thirty one to thirteen. Broncos getting better

1800
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 3: as they go too.

1801
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:07,800
Speaker 6: But you know what, though, there were some bad things

1802
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:08,000
Speaker 6: in that.

1803
01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 5: Vo Nicks has been average at best the last three weeks,

1804
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 5: and that's worrisome for me.

1805
01:29:13,240 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 7: Well, not only that that game should have been twenty

1806
01:29:17,200 --> 01:29:20,560
Speaker 7: to seven seven, and I think it's over. I don't agree.

1807
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 3: And yeah, he fumbled it going into the end zone.

1808
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, which is the point at taking the Just go

1809
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 5: into the end zone and then drop the ball.

1810
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 6: What the hell are these guys doing.

1811
01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 7: And go look at the offensive numbers Denver put up.

1812
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 7: Denver won that game because the Colts offense turned it

1813
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 7: over five times, They gave up a touchdown, and they

1814
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 7: turned it over in their own territory.

1815
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 5: They did not look No, Knicks has not looked good

1816
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks.

1817
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 7: They did not move the ball against that Colts defense

1818
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:50,680
Speaker 7: very well at all.

1819
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 3: No, the sound you heard around seven thirty last night

1820
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 3: was Pete's head's exploding in the fourth quarter when the

1821
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 3: Lions decided try an onside kick with twelve minutes to play.

1822
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 3: They lost the game forty eight to forty two to

1823
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 3: the Bills.

1824
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:07,720
Speaker 6: You might as well just concede.

1825
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, here's my so, and we talked about this. I

1826
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 7: worry and I like Dan Campbell. I think he's done

1827
01:30:14,800 --> 01:30:17,839
Speaker 7: a hell of a job to turning that organization around.

1828
01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,559
Speaker 7: They're good there. I still think they're the best team

1829
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 7: in the NFL than not. But the before all the

1830
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,759
Speaker 7: defensive ENDEA yeah, all right, That's why I meant Pete,

1831
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 7: thank you. They're so beat up on defense right now.

1832
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 7: But on top of that, we talked about last week.

1833
01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 7: I'm worried that he's gonna make a call. It's gonna

1834
01:30:36,200 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 7: cost him a game. Now. I don't think they beat

1835
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 7: the Bills anyways, because I don't think they could stop

1836
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 7: Josh Allen. But if you look back at that game,

1837
01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:46,800
Speaker 7: they score twelve minutes left to make it a ten

1838
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:49,360
Speaker 7: point game, and they did get a stop defensively, and

1839
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,519
Speaker 7: I believe it was late in the third quarter, so

1840
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 7: they had a little bit of confidence. I just don't

1841
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,920
Speaker 7: know why you do it at that point. Kick it

1842
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 7: deep and see if you can get a stop and

1843
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,200
Speaker 7: make it a three point game. Because one thing is

1844
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:03,679
Speaker 7: sure for sure is they weren't stopping the Detroit Lions offense.

1845
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 6: But especially when when you think about it, you have

1846
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 6: to declare it. Here we go, I'm gonna kick it

1847
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:13,960
Speaker 6: on side kick. Get ready for it. I mean, come on,

1848
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 6: it's just it's just bad football, do you know.

1849
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,600
Speaker 7: I think they got to rethink in the offseason the

1850
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:23,680
Speaker 7: whole on side kicking rules, because if you're gonna have

1851
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,479
Speaker 7: to kick off the way it is now, you have

1852
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 7: stupid to because you take away the surprise on side

1853
01:31:29,360 --> 01:31:32,320
Speaker 7: which in that now, in that game, if they would

1854
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 7: have done a surprise on side there, Okay, I could

1855
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 7: that might make.

1856
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:40,200
Speaker 5: Sense, right, fed steel possession from a team that's been

1857
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 5: going up and down the field on you.

1858
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 3: That's right, hey, guys, let's come back. We'll get to

1859
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,599
Speaker 3: the rest of the games and the Monday night games

1860
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,519
Speaker 3: tonight coming up, and the playoff picture as it stands

1861
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:52,080
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1862
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Speaker 3: Happy Hour presented by mister Chubbies Wings. We wrap up

1873
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Speaker 3: the slate of games on Sunday in Week fifteen. The

1874
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:48,160
Speaker 3: Buccaneers over the Chargers forty to seventeen, and the Bucks

1875
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 3: have now won four in a row. They have this year.

1876
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 3: Earlier in the season beaten the Lions, and the Eagles,

1877
01:32:56,120 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 3: and the Commanders, and now the Chargers, and down the

1878
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 3: stretch you got the Cowboys, Panthers and Saints. Pete. Is

1879
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 3: this team one to watch out for once January?

1880
01:33:05,720 --> 01:33:08,720
Speaker 5: Yes, nobody wants to play them. Nobody will want to

1881
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 5: play them. And not only that, they're getting healthy and

1882
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:12,960
Speaker 5: young players are growing up. I'll give you an example.

1883
01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 5: Cancy the defensive lineman from Pittsburgh, second year guy, didn't

1884
01:33:16,720 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 5: play the beginning of the season. Well, now he's back.

1885
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 5: You put him on the line with Yaya Diabi and

1886
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 5: Vidavea and they're starting to get after the quarterback. And

1887
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 5: you know, the secondary has been banged up all year long.

1888
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 5: They finally get their corners back and now the two

1889
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 5: safeties are down, you know, white Head and Winfield. But

1890
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 5: those guys aren't gonna be down for long, only you know,

1891
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 5: two or three weeks, so by the time the postseason

1892
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 5: rolls around, nobody wants to play them.

1893
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 7: Pete who's the offensive coordinator?

1894
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 5: Because is it Am kne By the way, he's a

1895
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:48,280
Speaker 5: really good.

1896
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 7: Coach and because all of a sudden, I'm starting to

1897
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 7: hear his name around as potential head coach in this

1898
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 7: league and very near future.

1899
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 6: Well, here's how good head coach. Here's how good a

1900
01:33:58,360 --> 01:33:59,240
Speaker 6: coordinator he is.

1901
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 5: He made He's the guy who made Will Levis look

1902
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:07,280
Speaker 5: good in his junior year at Kentucky.

1903
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:09,519
Speaker 3: He did.

1904
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 7: How many openings are there going to be this year?

1905
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 7: Take we're not going to talk about We're not gonna

1906
01:34:15,479 --> 01:34:16,480
Speaker 7: talk about the Jaguars.

1907
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 5: How many openings are going to be this You got

1908
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 5: the Bears open already, you have the Saints open already,

1909
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 5: you have the Jets open already. That's three. Then you

1910
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 5: got the potential for Dallas, although I don't think it's

1911
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 5: gonna happen.

1912
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 7: You would the Raiders move on from Antonio, there's another one.

1913
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,719
Speaker 7: Because if you think you think that will open up yeah, because.

1914
01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:42,200
Speaker 5: I think Brady's gonna get involved in that and try

1915
01:34:42,240 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 5: and get one of his cronies in there or something.

1916
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,080
Speaker 3: Giants gonna do it, Giants.

1917
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 5: Giants, although the Maras said they weren't going to do it,

1918
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:52,879
Speaker 5: and they'd be going back on what they said publicly,

1919
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:54,680
Speaker 5: which usually they do not do that.

1920
01:34:54,920 --> 01:34:56,639
Speaker 6: So that that's why I don't know if they'll do.

1921
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,479
Speaker 7: That anything any other teams out there.

1922
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,720
Speaker 6: What about out you hear rumblings about the Bengals. I

1923
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:03,400
Speaker 6: wouldn't do that.

1924
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 5: No, No, I can't not out West.

1925
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 6: No, I don't think. I think that would be about it.

1926
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:15,600
Speaker 7: So that'll be a low number of jobs open this

1927
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 7: year compared to the past seven years, correct, So you

1928
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 7: think four or five?

1929
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,360
Speaker 6: I mean the candidates are out there.

1930
01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 5: You know who the candidates are, Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn,

1931
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 5: Liam Kohane.

1932
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 6: Mike Mike Rabel. Yeah, there's there's there's guys out there.

1933
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,759
Speaker 3: We mentioned the Eagles over the Steelers earlier twenty seven thirteen,

1934
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 3: the Packers over the Seahawks thirty to thirteen. There's your

1935
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 3: look around the NFL.

1936
01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 6: And quick JP.

1937
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 5: Do you see the report that that that the Jaguars

1938
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:55,160
Speaker 5: actually were strongly considering Matt Eberflus at one point did

1939
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:56,600
Speaker 5: the interview last.

1940
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he was like strongly getting considered.

1941
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's so funny? Feet in the world? That evil

1942
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 3: grinch laugh is back?

1943
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:12,519
Speaker 6: Well, I mean they dodged one there. You think.

1944
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,599
Speaker 3: Monday Night Football two for the pace of one. Tonight,

1945
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 3: the four nine Chicago Bears meet the eleven and two

1946
01:36:20,120 --> 01:36:23,879
Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings, and then the six and seven Atlanta Falcons

1947
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:26,200
Speaker 3: need the game to stay in the playoff race. They

1948
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,920
Speaker 3: head to Vegas to face the hapless two and eleven Raiders.

1949
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,240
Speaker 3: Who you got tonight?

1950
01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 6: I think Minnesota waxed the Bears, and I.

1951
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 5: Think the Raiders hang around even though they're so under

1952
01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 5: man I don't Kirk Cousins has been.

1953
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 6: So bad the last month of the season. I don't

1954
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:45,880
Speaker 6: know who that guy is.

1955
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 7: Just for the record, last week I called it. He

1956
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,640
Speaker 7: was wrong. He picked the Cowboys, I picked the Bengals.

1957
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:59,400
Speaker 7: Just a reminder, Pete, I'm gonna go Falcons.

1958
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 6: I mean it took him touching aupun like.

1959
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 3: Former jag at Falcons Vikings, and I don't think either

1960
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:11,759
Speaker 3: is really that close.

1961
01:37:12,439 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 6: Do you think the Raiders get backed at home?

1962
01:37:14,080 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 3: Huh wow.

1963
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 6: The Falcons team has big problems, though, I don't know.

1964
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 3: We'll talk to you guys next week. Pek Prisco, Tony Boselli.

1965
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 3: I'm JP Shattercker. Thanks to Brent Reeber, Joe Fortunado, our

1966
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:28,679
Speaker 3: entire crew. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.