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Speaker 1: Before listening, ask a doctor if your heart is healthy

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Speaker 1: enough for Dallas Cowboys football. He's hanging with the Boys,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star

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Speaker 1: in Frisco. Now your host, Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, and

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Speaker 1: Shannon gross Man. It's Thursday. It's Thursday, and we are

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Speaker 1: bringing the heat on Thursday. We got an action packed show.

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Speaker 1: Later on, we're gonna have Chris Hall. What's Chris's title,

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Speaker 1: Assistant director of scouting, something like that, scouting big muckety

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Speaker 1: muck in the scouting. All right, we're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: fan call in from none other than computer. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: tell us what he thinks about the team. And in studio,

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Speaker 1: we're missing Nate, but we more than made up for

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Speaker 1: live in studio, Cavan Frasier, what's up, Cav? So, what's

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Speaker 1: up y'all? How y'all doing field? Thanks for joining us? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you had no problems. You hadn't been in the studio

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Speaker 1: with us, have you? Nah? This is actually the first time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just out of training camp with us, right, yeah? Cool man?

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Speaker 1: What's been happening man? Nothing, just you know, just grinding

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Speaker 1: on the fielding off the field. Yeah, you've been been

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Speaker 1: showing out on special teams a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, just just making the most of you know,

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Speaker 1: every chance I get. Yeah, what do you think about

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Speaker 1: the young guys on the team you're talking about, like

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Speaker 1: like the rookies. Yeah, it's a young guy. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm still a young guy like rookie and a half

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Speaker 1: right now, right right, right right. No. I love them though.

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Speaker 1: You know, they always come out to eat with us

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Speaker 1: every Thursday. Um, we get we get like a big

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Speaker 1: they always come. So man, I love you know, Rookie, DBS,

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Speaker 1: You know, we get along really well. Cool, cool, cool week.

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Speaker 1: Any different this week with he's being banged up a

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Speaker 1: little bit or change anything for you? Yeah yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting a lot more third down reps. I'm

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Speaker 1: it's it's a lot different. Actually, Yeah, that's a good

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Speaker 1: you know, it's more chances for me though. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to I wanted to talk to you a little

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Speaker 1: bit about so you and you and Keith Smith have

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Speaker 1: this friendly rivalry going on where you guys tried to

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Speaker 1: social media. Tell us a little bit about that. And

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Speaker 1: then and then I saw on social media where you

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Speaker 1: So the little rivalry was it was actually called the

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Speaker 1: they're a great organization that I do a lot of

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Speaker 1: called Fraser kerriss Um. You know, Frasier Kiris just benefits

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. Man. Usually guys don't start doing that and

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Speaker 1: just do some shopping for Christmas. What made you like

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Speaker 1: what made you want to give back so early in

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Speaker 1: some ways because you're a little bit fresher. M is

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Speaker 1: definitely a challenge. Um, I was just talking to my

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Speaker 1: that last year is a rookie. I'm sure most rookies

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Speaker 1: play something. Man, conspiracies dot com the four games and

421
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Speaker 1: we got a good pass for us, you know, the

422
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: whole and they were holding the playoffs. That's why I saw,

423
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Speaker 1: I saw you retreated gil Brands where twenty six quarters

424
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: since some offensive lineman's then called for holding against Dallas. Wow,

425
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: twenty six quarters, that'll get your conspiracy three three Yeah.

426
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: And then the whole thing with the owners Hay no, Jerry,

427
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man. And my whole problem with

428
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: the whole thing was zque war when that league investigator

429
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: said that she felt like no suspension and the witness

430
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: testimony when crowd that's all I had to hear. Yeah,

431
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 1: and I had to talk to nobody else. They just like,

432
00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: if you go to court and go to trial and

433
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: the jurors value not get but the prosecuting the job, like, well,

434
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: we kind of wanted you to go to jes so

435
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: we're gonna say the agel whatever they had to say.

436
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: You know, that's that's that's why we hadn't been playing

437
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: good because that's been really been on the team. He

438
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: wasn't getting the reps in preseason. So when it came out,

439
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't altogether. It didn't knel in the back of

440
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: their head. It just kept going and going, you know,

441
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:20,639
Speaker 1: and now you know, it's just I don't know what

442
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: was gonna do. Who I just don't know what was

443
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,239
Speaker 1: going who do you think this team, missus is more

444
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: of an impact not being on the field, tyring Zeke

445
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: or Shawn Lee. I go Zeke, Shaun Lee then Tyre?

446
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: Really yes, because teams are skilled of Zeke m you know,

447
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: just like Cancaid changed their whole defense. You know. Yeah.

448
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: I saw a news article to day talked about you know,

449
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: Chas Green did start two games last year and played well,

450
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 1: but we had Zeke in the lineup under yards and

451
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: so my my observation is that it is like Michael

452
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys. We never won a game without

453
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: Mike Irving when he went on the field. We won

454
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: without Troy, we didn't win without em, and we didn't

455
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 1: win without Mike. The reason why we didn't win without

456
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 1: Mike because he was an emotional leader. They gave a

457
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: team that um and that same thing comes from Zeke.

458
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: Even though Dak is the leader of the team. Zeke

459
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 1: is the Michael Irvan. You know what I'm saying. He'd

460
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: want to go crazy. That got to be calm and

461
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,960
Speaker 1: cool because he's a quarterback like Troy Wood and Mike

462
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: had to be his place, getting everybody clunk, getting everybody

463
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: to fake. You know what I'm saying. You think he's

464
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: more of that girl. I think he's more of that

465
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: guy than like Dez. You think Zeke's more than Yeah, yeah,

466
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: I don't up because, uh it's he's more physical. He

467
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: he's able because we're running team den if Den started

468
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: out doing his his kids and stuff at the beginning

469
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: of the game and getting crunk. Yeah, but Zeke is

470
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: did him? You know Zeke, you know since we were

471
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: running team he does that right. How did you computer?

472
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: How did you become a Cowboys fan? My dad say

473
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: he used to watch games together U and we still

474
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: we still do. He gets mad. Now he gets he gets,

475
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: he gets mad, and I do. He can't watch. You

476
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 1: get a real star watching like last season, he watched

477
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: all the game. Last year, he was cool, but once

478
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: they started and missed this year, he gets so upset.

479
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,719
Speaker 1: He came watch he just like I get it from him.

480
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: So who are who are your your other teams? Who's

481
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 1: your NBA team? I don't really When Michael Jordan quick

482
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: playing basketball, I quick watch really yeah, because I feel

483
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 1: like they don't play hard like Mike did. Good for you.

484
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: It's not the same. It's a different game now. It

485
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,400
Speaker 1: seems like, yeah, what about baseball? You watch baseball now? Cardinals?

486
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, No hockey, no college football. I used

487
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: to watch it, but now I'm sowing to the Cowboys.

488
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: When I came in, like State was playing Alabama, everybody's

489
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: missing was going crazy. Yeare you worried about that? Said man,

490
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 1: I am not worried about Misses state. You know you're

491
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: in Mississippi state, territorial miss I don't know. Well, I'm

492
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: for the minute from Starfall and thirty five minutes from

493
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Speaker 1: March the middle of it. But you did in middle

494
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: you route for state though, right? Yeah? Route was stating

495
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: for the football, but the girls offers. So were you

496
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: doing Were you doing cart wheels when they drafted that?

497
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was going crazy one that hen I

498
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: said my quarterback fixed would be my quarterback. And see

499
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: I knew that when when they drafted that. I said, man,

500
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: just like they said that, Uh Brandon Lee moving the crow.

501
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: He said they can't rain forever. I said, not gonna

502
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: rain for everybody just laughed it because that all that

503
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: thing that Parcel said about all the things he liked

504
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: in a quarterback that hit every last one of them.

505
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: And he was and he'd been in the sec he

506
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: didn't been through that fire man at Obama one year,

507
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: they were just kissing him and they was hitting him,

508
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: and he was just he just kept on and on

509
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: and on, and he earned their respect. They would pick

510
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: him up up, they would pick him off the up

511
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: off the ground. They hit him because they respected him.

512
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: I got a funny story. I was in Sam's the

513
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: other day and I've seen this big old tall due.

514
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: I said that dude need to be playing on something

515
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: about I would deck Thatt and Cowboys stuff. It was

516
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: Chris Jones, Kansas City. Really, he's you ain't recognize him.

517
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: Do you ain't gonna speak? And look? I said, oh wow,

518
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: I said. I thought. I was like, man, who would

519
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: this big tall? Does he need to be playing some

520
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: ball somewhere. I didn't know he was that tall because

521
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: I hadn't seen him since start one. He he doesn't

522
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: have a he had a growl, he don't have a

523
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: gross pert since he'd been up there. Yeah, he's a

524
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: big he's a big man. I didn't realize how big

525
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: he was until But who you think, Oh, who do

526
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: you think the cowboys biggest rival is these days Eagles?

527
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: I meant about worry about the Eagles, but not worried

528
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 1: about Sunday. I mean, I mean they're gonna talk all

529
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: that nose. I mean they've been on the top of

530
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: somebody nose. I would go there. I'll be up there

531
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: like rock. I go up there like uh listen, Tigue

532
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: just started knocking them all out. Man, they'd run you

533
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: out of that city if you went up there. Wasn't

534
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: not running them about it. It's a gona Mississippi boy.

535
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: We'll go up there and take that town old. I

536
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: mean they've been talking so much knows and then Doug

537
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Peterson talking all that knows about Dak last year and

538
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: then over the summer, nobody's brought up none of those

539
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: comments he said talking about dads had to step in

540
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: off the bus. He had a good team around him.

541
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: He's not that good of a quarterback, and dudes better,

542
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: and dude were drafted the first or second pick in

543
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: the draft. He better be better. But I would take

544
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: Dack over him in the day of the week to me,

545
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, to me, he faked that Carson

546
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: Wentz the kicker make an extra point. He running out

547
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field to take the kicker's hand.

548
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: Come on, man, you just you play? I mean so

549
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: fake to me. You know, he's a good player, you know.

550
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: And they and Philadephione that picked him. If Dallas hadn't

551
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: have been working him out, no way. They were so

552
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: worried that Dallas gonna get it. They trade a half

553
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 1: day team or whatever they did to get up there,

554
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: you know. And plus they've had an easier schedule. They

555
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: only played one team when a winning record, that's it. Yeah,

556
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 1: it schedule for them. Yeah, they're about to play another

557
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: one this this Sunday. And then you know they're the

558
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 1: teams that the rest of that schedules three three point

559
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: eight nine. I was a four point five and Washington

560
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: actually has a tough schedule the rest of the year

561
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: than what all of the teams are. But you know,

562
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: you know schedule. I mean, we'll see what happened sun

563
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 1: is as long as we as long as we show

564
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: up and fight back. I'm not worried. I'm not worried

565
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: about I just don't want to buy to quit. Yeah,

566
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think you got any quitters on

567
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: this team. I don't think they quit. I don't think

568
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: they quit this past Sunday. I think they just got there. Yeah,

569
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: But will you say what you want to Well, I

570
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: just said we were just was we was. We didn't scheme, right.

571
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: I think they were thinking about filers. I don't think

572
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: they weren't even worried about it. Now you think this

573
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: game was on on the players or the coaching or

574
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of both, a little bit of both. Yeah,

575
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: because I figure they probably figured we're going in thump

576
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: uh dump Dell, you know, and then our backs and

577
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: some of our players backup players need not have the

578
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: attitude today just like the start us. You gotta you

579
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: gotta Clo. Now you're not charl League, You're not Zeke.

580
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: Come on, now, you gotta play like you got something

581
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: to polist them instead of playing like you already there

582
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: a computer quick quick question? Did you watch this when

583
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: the show started? No, I was in the car you missed,

584
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: you missed Tavan Fraser totally dancing to the beat of

585
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: your open music when the show started. Oh was it? Yeah?

586
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: He was getting with it. He liked be here y'all.

587
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: Never did give it to Nate to where he could

588
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: have it by himself, like the words is it? Let

589
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: me ask for it? Oh, yeah, that's Douglas. What did

590
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: he ask for, Douglas? What did Nate ask for? He

591
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: asked for the beat by itself so we could just

592
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: let it play without the words. Yeah, I've been looking.

593
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find like a like kind of a sleazy

594
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: seventies bed. Every time Nate asks a player, how's your

595
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: tell me about your lady friend? Wow? So computer, we

596
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: we we had our mid season award that we gave

597
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: out on the show. Uh, last week, let's get yours.

598
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: Who's your who's your offensive MVP? So far? Oh? I

599
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: say the whole office. I give it to all I

600
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: don't want to leave about it out. What come on?

601
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Sound like I sound like Nate. Give everybody Cosse Cowboys

602
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: every game. I get to that he's been through a lot,

603
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: all right, give it to him. Yeah, there you go. Okay,

604
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: defensive MVP so far. Oh, I don't know nobody's I mean,

605
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,959
Speaker 1: nobody has showed up like we need them to show up.

606
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: You know you don't think d Laws showing up David,

607
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, but they've been quiet to pay two or

608
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: three games. I wanted to show him we need him

609
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: like last he did get a shot last week. Yeah, second,

610
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: and then I mean, gett a farmer, knock somebody down.

611
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: You know, we need David Irving to show up just

612
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: he needed to be very disrupted. He need to go

613
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: up the mill on them folds and hit that dude

614
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: and knock them down. Yeah, they definitely need the defensive

615
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: line to bring it this week. But about your I

616
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: like our new cornerbacks. I like how those kids play.

617
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't like a lot of people talking about all

618
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: the wars that left the reason why all those people

619
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: level wards because they didn't show up in that playoff game.

620
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: And mister Jones and mister Jones and mister McClay would

621
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: kind of upset that they didn't show up. You know,

622
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: it's good to play when everything's going good, but we

623
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: need them to show up in that playoff game. They

624
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: gave it Rodder too much time that aut of them

625
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: receivers running around like that. I mean, you know, and

626
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: then they wanted to lead, you know, because those players

627
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: that left couldn't handle the pressure playing for the Cowboys.

628
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: They go somewhere else and they played better because it's

629
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: not the pressure on them to be the man. When

630
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: you come to Doallas, you gotta be able to all right,

631
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: you gotta play your position, but then you gotta be

632
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: able to hand that pressure playing for the Cowboys, and

633
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: a lot of players can't hauling it handing it. I

634
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: think the yances that we got in the draft, they

635
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: are dogs. I think they can hand that. They're not

636
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: the light is not blinding them. You know, couldn't Church,

637
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: couldn't be wood Darren Woodson, you know so, But yeah, well, computer,

638
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: we gotta let you go because we have another very

639
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: special guest in the studio with us. Chris Hall is

640
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: sitting here with Chris, what is what exactly is your title?

641
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: I am the assistant director of college scouting. Okay, so

642
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 1: we wouldn't kick you off for very many people tell Tim,

643
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: you haven't need any scouting in the Mississippi. I got

644
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: worried on all the SEC schools in the surrounding areas.

645
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: So if he needed anybody to go check himbody out,

646
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: Holliday Shannon and I go check him out, a GEI

647
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: little info anything you need. Oh yeah, I got deeper.

648
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I got people running around, and I'm telling something now

649
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: that gut. We signed Candid City that played at Northeast

650
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: Community College up there. Oh he's good, he's good him,

651
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: he said, that's why we signed him. Oh yeah, I

652
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: know y'all. Y'all did a great job with him. I

653
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: hadn't had watched him up there at Northeast. Easy, he

654
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: pretty Tim Bourns like he came out I SEC and

655
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: went to Miami. Hey, we had pretty good luck the

656
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: last guy we stole from the Chiefs on the D line.

657
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: So we'll see where yea y'all do. Yeah, yeah, y'all scout.

658
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: Y'all doing a great, great, great, great job. I don't

659
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: keep y'all bringing in which I've been doing. I've read

660
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: proud of y'all. We appreciate it. Cowboy Nation got y'all back,

661
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: appreciate your support. All right, Computer, we'll get y'all into

662
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: your future. Man, y'all, Man, y'all take care of all right,

663
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: Go Cowboys. That was Computer of three six Mafia fame,

664
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: huge Cowboys fan. Have you ever met him, Chris? I

665
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: have not. No, he's been out the camp a couple

666
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: of times. Not not really your genre. You're more of

667
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: a rocker, right, a little heavier? Yes? Did you know

668
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: Kurt's a big metal hill? Yes? Okay. If y'all ever

669
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: been to a concert together, we have been at the

670
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: same concert, yes, okay several times. What's the both of you?

671
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: What's the best rock concert you've ever been to? For me,

672
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: it was Raged against the Machine? Really when and where?

673
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: It's probably ninety eight ninety nine star Plex. Okay. It

674
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: was an amazing show. I've never been in a song

675
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: on the Matrix soundtrack. I don't know they think so.

676
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: I've never been in a show that had such just

677
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: the crowd of just power crazy. It was just you

678
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,479
Speaker 1: could feel it. It was great, but about just because

679
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: Kurt was there. It definitely because Kurt was there. Mine

680
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: was probably the first time I saw Iron Maiden back

681
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six on the Power Slave tour. Wow.

682
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: Where was that at? I was at Lake Front Arena

683
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Okay, where are you from? All over

684
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: the place? Mine is? Probably the coolest concert I've ever

685
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: been to was Three Days Grace. They played at back

686
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: when we were at Valley Ranch. Right up the street.

687
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: They had a little sports bar right by that gas station.

688
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: It's an Indian food restaurant at the bottom of the

689
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 1: hill when you would come down to Valley Ranch. The

690
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: guy that owned it was from Canada, and somehow knew

691
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: those guys from from Canada. And the place only held

692
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: like one hundred and fifty people, and they were selling

693
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: ten dollars tickets. Me and my buddy went. It was

694
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: so cool. But probably the best show I've ever been

695
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: to was probably Metallic. Yeah. They played at AC the

696
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: American Airline Center about six years ago in the round.

697
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: That was really cool. I couldn't hear for five I

698
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: was at that one too. Kurt was there too? Were

699
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: you there? I think I was at that one, but

700
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: we were. We were both at the recent one. How

701
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: was that was it good? It was good? I was

702
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: worried because it was so big they might lose something.

703
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. I was fortunate enough to

704
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: be stuck down in the snake pit for that one,

705
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: so whole different perspective on up close I could imagine.

706
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I could imagine those guys still bring it too. Yeah,

707
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: so let's talk some scouting and some football. Kurt, you

708
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: you're the football stats guy on this on this show, well,

709
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: I guess I know you're more college guy. But can

710
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: we first kind of on the pro scouting side. I mean,

711
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: I've always wondered, you just signed this kid off the

712
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: practice squad, how do you have any idea he's any

713
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: good at this point? I mean, you haven't seen him

714
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 1: play in months, right. It's those are the tricky things

715
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: that want with our pro department and what they do.

716
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: They do a phenomenal job of of canvassing everybody's practice

717
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: squad and looking at the few snaps that these guys

718
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: may have had in preseason games. I mean, some of

719
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: these guys might only play twenty thirty snaps in a

720
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: preseason game, and you've got a college history on him,

721
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: and you're making judgments over just a very little bit

722
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: of fourth quarter action in preseason games. So it's kind

723
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: of tricky. You know, this kid we just signed, He's

724
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: a big guy who fits the need that we have.

725
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: We're always looking at defensive lineman. You can never have enough.

726
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: That's Daniel Ross, yes exactly. And you know, his backgrounds

727
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: really interesting. He was a junior college player who went

728
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: up to Canada for a couple of years and made

729
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: it through the Texans roster this August and was ended

730
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: up in Kansas City and there was enough there that

731
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: our guys saw that thought there was something that he

732
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: could fit in with with the group of guys that

733
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: we have, and let coach Marinelli go to work on him.

734
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: How long have you been with the team? I started

735
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: with a team back in nineteen ninety, right out of college.

736
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: So this is my twenty eighth season with the team.

737
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: And what exactly, So for people that don't know what

738
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: you do, how can you kind of give them a

739
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 1: fifty thousand foot sure view of it? The basic gist

740
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: of what I do is help organize all of our

741
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: college scouting information and get our draft board prepared for

742
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 1: all the different things that go into that throughout you know,

743
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: really starting the May right after the draft is when

744
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: we start in on the draft process for the next year.

745
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: We belong to a scouting service that kind of gives

746
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: us a springboard list, and we kind of go from there.

747
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: We do a little bit of work on that over

748
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: the summer, and then we get into camp and we

749
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: study our team a little bit to have a better

750
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: idea where we think we might be short coming up

751
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: next year, and our scouts start canvas in the road.

752
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: In August, we go to training camps and colleges while

753
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,959
Speaker 1: they're preparing for their season two, and then we spend

754
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: the entire fall watching college practice, watching games, talking to

755
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: as many sources as we can at college campuses, and uh,

756
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: you know, building our building our database, or really shrinking it.

757
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: At that point. We start off with, you know, about

758
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: eight hundred names on that list, and it'll grow to

759
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: anywhere from eleven to twelve hundred, and ultimately we shrink

760
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: it back down to about one hundred and fifty to

761
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy guys that we leave on our

762
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: draft board, and then probably another one hundred and fifty

763
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: that we would consider as rookie free agents. So the

764
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys were the first organization in the NFL to use

765
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: computers to harness computers for scouting and draft and you're

766
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: now the point man inheriting that tradition. Yeah, a little bit.

767
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: It's interesting, you know, to see how the Cowboy computer

768
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: has evolved over the years that I've been here, from

769
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: an old three eighty six desktop to all the magnificent

770
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: new stuff that we have in the war room with

771
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: touch technology and being able to open screens multiple things

772
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: on one look, and just it's amazing the amount of

773
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 1: information that's literally available at your fingertips now. And you're

774
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: in the war room on draft day. Rap, what is

775
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: you have? The years that you've been here for that

776
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: long period of time, you have bound to have seen

777
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: some awesome stuff. What is the what is the best

778
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: story that you're able to tell? Yeah, you're able to

779
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: tell there's there's the right there able to tell that

780
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: drop off story quality. We've had some really good ones.

781
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: One of the I think one of the greatest ones

782
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: was back when we maneuvered around for the Roy Williams trade. Um,

783
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: you know, Jerry was amazingly working three different phones at

784
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: the same time between Minnesota, Kansas City, and Jacksonville, and

785
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: he ended up maneuvering getting an extra pick out of it,

786
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: and we knew who each team was going to take,

787
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: and the trade came right down to the last minute,

788
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: and the people on TV thought we passed because we

789
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: didn't get the deal in on time, and it actually

790
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: wasn't our pick, and it literary got right down to

791
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: the wire and I had to remind Steven that, hey,

792
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: you got to call the league office and put the

793
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: trade in since were the ones with the pick. And

794
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: literally he jumped over the telephone cord. We saw a

795
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: telephone cords rolling all over the place. He had to

796
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: jump over the cord and really got the trade in

797
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: right at the end of the deal. And then that

798
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: caused all kinds of panic on ESPN. They didn't know

799
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: who had the pick, if it was Kansas City or Minnesota,

800
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: and guys were trying to turn cards in and long

801
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: and the shorter was. It turned out that I think

802
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: everybody got the player they wanted in that deal anyway,

803
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: when it didn't. Something similar happening with Whitton too, where

804
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: Jerry somehow got the other teams to tell they like

805
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: they wanted to trade up to get him, and they

806
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: told him the other you got the other team to

807
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: reel They were gonna draft wittn or submit. Maybe I'm

808
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: wrong with that. I don't remember that wasn't that one?

809
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: Well you would know better than I would, Yeah, it was.

810
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: We've had some other interesting ones in there, you know.

811
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's been. It's been a long strange journey

812
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: into war room, to say at least. Another good one

813
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: was this year when uh, thanks to somebody back here

814
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: in the technology room, we ended up getting a our

815
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: war room phone number was out the wonder on the internet.

816
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: I think that somebody put a really nice thing on

817
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: Twitter except our phone number was Yeah, I wonder who

818
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: that could have been. Well, you're started this for the

819
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: technology section. Oh this is not so what It was

820
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, we look back and laugh at

821
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: it now, but we kept getting all these calls in there,

822
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and it was, you know, fans basically suggesting what we

823
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: should be doing, and Jerry and Stephen are always the

824
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: ones that pick up the phone, and and after a

825
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: while it was kind of like, Okay, something's fishy. How

826
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: are these people getting our number? And we realized that

827
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: it was out on a Twitter post that we had

828
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: put of just you know, a nice helmet shot and

829
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of styling for the room and we quickly got

830
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: that fixed. Yeah, he did, he did. Luckily, no one

831
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: lost their job over that. Yeah. I was there when

832
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: that went down. Yeah, there was some tense moment with

833
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: its running through the building. Go who the hell runs

834
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: the Twitter account? Who runs the Twitter account? Now, I

835
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys know this or not, but

836
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: Jerry had had a pretty good zang back at the

837
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: end of that. After we got it fixed, he picked

838
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: up the phone again and acted like somebody had got

839
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: through again, and and he was kind of stringing us

840
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: along like there was a trade going on or something.

841
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 1: And Steven's trying to figure out what's going on. We're

842
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: all looking at him like what's up. He just kind

843
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: of goes, I'm just messing with it. Was it was fun. Now, Nick,

844
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: there you go. Nick Eatmon told me a story, and

845
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: you tell me whether you can tell it or not.

846
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: He said, you had a really fun story about DeMarco Murray. Yeah.

847
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: That was for me. That was one of my my

848
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 1: I guess, prouder moments in my scouting business, the things

849
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: that I've been able to be a part of directly

850
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: with players. And uh, you know, we had DeMarco had

851
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: kind of slid down a little bit further, and we

852
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: saw where he was and we knew his ability and everything.

853
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: And I was big, big fan of DeMarco's and we

854
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: still had a couple other running backs that were up

855
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: on the board at the time, but we had had

856
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: DeMarco rated ahead of him. And as sometimes will happen

857
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: during draft discussions, you start sliding away from how your

858
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 1: board might look in there when you're discussing who you

859
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: might want to pick, or if the players are kind

860
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 1: of even. You know, we do a lot of work

861
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: to get that board put together, and then there's a

862
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: reason that it's stacked the way it is. And one

863
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: of my pet peeves is always when we start to

864
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: slide away from that a little bit. What was kind

865
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: of going that way? And I was kind of bristling

866
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: in my chair, and we'd got Coachwitzer on the phone

867
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: to talk about him, and Barry did a really good

868
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: cell job with him too, And I remember Coach Garrett

869
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: looked over at me and he asked, he said, Okay,

870
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: is this guy gonna get the tough yards for us?

871
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: Is he going to score when it's it's January And

872
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: we're in the metal land ends and we gotta we

873
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: got to score a touchdown to win the game. And

874
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: I can't repeat exactly what I said, but I basically said,

875
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 1: give him the ball and running behind that big number

876
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: seventy seven that we just drafted, and he'll score every time.

877
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 1: Perfect And I had enough. I don't know if that was,

878
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, the finding thing that made us do it,

879
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: but it was, you know, I was hot at the

880
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 1: time I took him and obviously had you know, the

881
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: best rushing season in the history that it's kind of

882
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: the ongoing struggle for y'all, isn't Because the coaches have

883
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: one thing in mine and the scouts they have their

884
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: board and they kind of have their own series. Is

885
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: it hard to balance sometimes? Well, I'll say this, We've

886
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 1: we've done a great job the last few years of

887
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: really getting together and fostering our relationship with the coaching staff,

888
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: and we've learned a lot from them. They've learned a

889
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: lot from us on how we do our work, and

890
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a much bigger appreciation now for how

891
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: each one of us work. And over the last few years,

892
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: under Will mcclay's guidance, we've we've really made a conscious

893
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: effort to get these two groups together in the spring

894
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: watch tape together, study together, work players out together, really

895
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: get to know the guys so that that we have

896
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: fewer of those well they like him and we don't

897
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: like him, or we're not quite sure about this guy.

898
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, you're always going to have some some indecision,

899
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a scout that likes a guy

900
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: better than another scout, or you know, there's always gonna

901
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be perfect agreement on everybody, but you

902
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: hope to get everybody as close to the same page

903
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: and seeing and looking at the same things, and just

904
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: as importantly how they're going to fit into our roster

905
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: and how we're going to use the player, and ultimately

906
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: that's that's the coach's decision how they do that. So

907
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: you don't ever want to give the coach as a

908
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: player that maybe they don't have the same vision for

909
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: that you do. So you know that that usually ends poorly.

910
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: As I've seen about the years of twenty five plus

911
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: years of doing this, you know, when we've had situations

912
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 1: like that, it usually doesn't work out very well. Do

913
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 1: you have I'm sure you have each draft, you kind

914
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: of fall in love with the guy, and you like

915
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: certain guys that you know you would like to see

916
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: the team draft for certain reasons or whatever. Do you

917
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: does that guy follow you so like in your case

918
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray, you really like DeMarco and you kind of

919
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: made a stand for him. Does that kind of follow

920
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: you around and people are like, that was Hall's guy?

921
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 1: Or is it just kind of like a team effort?

922
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: And it's really really, I can't say this enough, it's

923
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: it's such a team effort. By the time we get

924
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: to the draft room and where the guys are on

925
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: the board, there are guys it's not Kurt drafted that guy,

926
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: or Shannon drafted that guy, or that was Chris's pick.

927
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: I mean they kind of do that in baseball, don't they,

928
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: Where the scouts really get more they get credit for

929
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: finding a guy. You know, I think so, But I

930
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: think also if you if you look at baseball, man,

931
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about high school kids and college kids and

932
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: all ages and years, and there's so many more scouts

933
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: and it's so much more. A guy's really dependent on

934
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,080
Speaker 1: finding the guys in his region and then letting the

935
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: cross checker see him as well, But there's more discovery

936
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: I think in baseball and probably other sports to hockey soccer.

937
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: One of the things we kind of talked a little

938
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: bit about this past year's football is really the only

939
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: sport where you don't get to watch these players grow

940
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: up through high school into college or juniors or whatever

941
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: angle they go to. Sometimes, you know, when a junior

942
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: comes out, we may only have four or five months

943
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 1: of exposure to this guy if he just kind of

944
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: came out of the woodwork, and you've got to get

945
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: to know all you can about a guy in a

946
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: four month period, whereas a basketball scout may have seen

947
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: the kid playing high school, he may have been to

948
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: five or six of his games, watched him practice eight

949
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: to ten times. Same thing with a baseball player, a pitcher,

950
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, you've probably seen that guy throw ten twelve

951
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: times before you're going to really get behind him and everything. Well,

952
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: with us, that's hard to do. Our guys, we may

953
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: only see a guy play one game, or be on

954
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: campus a couple of times to see him practice, and

955
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: that's all just within the scope of less than a

956
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: year of when you first see him and when when

957
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: you have to draft him. Make a decision about who

958
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: this twenty one or twenty two year old person is.

959
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: So over over the twenty eight years you've dealt with Jimmy,

960
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: Barry Parcels. Uh, how are those How are those guys? Oh,

961
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: Wade can't get any love here? Well, I'm just thinking

962
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: about the personality. Garrett can't even get in there. Well,

963
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: come on, Douglas, And if he wants to go that direction, sure,

964
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: But I was wanted these the three, you know, big personalities,

965
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: and how that how they interacted with the scouting department,

966
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: Um comparatively, Yeah, they were all. They were all very different. Um.

967
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: You know with Jimmy, he came in with his coaching

968
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: staff and they had an unbelievable advant two unbelievable advantages

969
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: when they got here. We had a boatloaded draft picks

970
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: and they had recruited the majority of these guys that

971
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: were going to be in the first few drafts that

972
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: they had all this ammunition for. So they knew their guys.

973
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: They were coming into the to the NFL in a

974
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: different way. Jimmy Prott kind of a different defensive scheme.

975
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: The fast, speedy or undersized guys. You know that that

976
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: wasn't where the game was at the time, and he

977
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: was able to take chances on players and especially guys

978
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: that he knew from Miami, you know, the Darren Smiths

979
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: of the world, Darren Woodson. These guys were undersized players

980
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: at their positions that could run, and that was the

981
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: biggest thing back then. It was speed, not size and power,

982
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: like a lot of what was going on in the

983
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: league at the time. But Jimmy had a great, a

984
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: great dictionary if you will, of what was coming into

985
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: the league, and we had all those picks. You know,

986
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: people forget the ones that didn't pan out, or the

987
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: fact that we traded five of them for Stan's Magala

988
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: exactly or Dame Safety. There you go. So then you know,

989
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: when Barry came in, Barry had been out of the

990
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: game for a little bit and he was just kind

991
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: of he was a little bit of a caretaker with it,

992
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: and he let us do our thing. Larry Layswell was

993
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: our director of the time, and Larry history with Barry

994
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: and Jimmy and all of them at the time, and uh,

995
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: you know, Barry kind of let us do our thing,

996
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: and the coaches got a little bit more involved at

997
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: that point in time, and then ironically, when Bill was here,

998
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: he didn't want the coaches to have anything to do

999
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: with the draft. Oh real except him, Oh, he wanted

1000
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: to say, And he listened to our guys and our

1001
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: veteran guys even more so. But you know, he looked

1002
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: at it, whereas, hey, the scouts, they've been following these guys,

1003
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: they're they're supposed to be the experts of this. I'm

1004
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: going to trust their opinion as opposed to a coach

1005
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: who you know, may not be putting his all into

1006
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: it at the time. Now that's not to say what

1007
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: we do now. Our coaches are invested in the process

1008
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: and how we go through the spring with them. So

1009
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 1: it was different. Bill didn't want them involved. He wanted

1010
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: them coaching. They were a coach, So that was That

1011
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: was kind of the difference in those three guys. That's

1012
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: interesting because he's so famous for complaining that he didn't

1013
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: get to buy the groceries in New England, and then

1014
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: he walks in and he lets you guys direct them

1015
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: on how to buy the groceries. Oh he still he

1016
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 1: still was buying groceries. I don't make any don't make

1017
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: any mistake about it. He had his guys, and I

1018
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: think I think Bill was you know, he just didn't

1019
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: want to draft Terry Glenn up into him. I probably

1020
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: had his eyes on somebody else, you know, just like

1021
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's a big story I won't

1022
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: get into, but I mean we ended up getting both

1023
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: players to Marcus Ware and Marcus Spears, and you know

1024
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: he might elect one more than the other. Oh everybody knows. So,

1025
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: but tell me this, of those two in that draft,

1026
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: where was Aaron Rodgers on everybody's radar? Oh? Man? Um?

1027
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 1: Because what did he go? Like seven or eight picks

1028
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: after Spears? Yeah? Because you know he that was the

1029
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 1: one of the infamous first green room freefall experiences. I

1030
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: think that was broadcast live on TV. And I think

1031
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:51,759
Speaker 1: he ended up going maybe twenty fourth or twenty six

1032
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: something like that, and the Packers finally pulled the trigger

1033
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: on him, and you know that's about where we had him.

1034
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a quarterback at the time, I believe,

1035
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: And it just it. Quarterbacks are hard to figure out.

1036
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: When you've got one, you don't value the guys in

1037
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: the draft as much, it seems, but when you need one,

1038
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: you might put a little bit of air and all

1039
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 1: to try and find one, because I mean we went

1040
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: a long time, you know, with outfielders and shortstops and

1041
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: third basemen trying to play quarterback here between Troy and

1042
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: Tony when we finally, you know, got the next guy,

1043
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: and you know that's still work. Like now that you're

1044
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: in the scouting process for next year, do you have

1045
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 1: it like, well, we're gonna need a linebacker, we're gonna

1046
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: need this, orre you just covering everything right now? Well,

1047
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: you're covering everything right now. You know where your needs are,

1048
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: where you think your needs are going to be, maybe

1049
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: emphasis on another sure, I mean, you know, we feel

1050
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: pretty good about the quarterback that we got right now,

1051
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 1: you know, so are we are? We digging deep, deep, deep,

1052
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: deep deep into all these quarterbacks? Maybe not as much

1053
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: as we had been. You know, the year that we

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00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: drafted Dak and I mean, I'm sure people have heard

1055
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: the story on that now. He wasn't our first choice

1056
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: and I'm glad he was the choice that he ended

1057
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: up being for us, obviously, but you know, we took

1058
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: a look at a lot of other guys that year.

1059
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: He was one of many, and uh, you know, it's

1060
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: worked out well for us. You know things we couldn't

1061
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: pull off that. Yeah, talking about dak Um, this team

1062
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 1: hadn't drafted a quarterback for a while. Was did they

1063
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: draft did was that draft? Did they have in mind

1064
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna get a quarterback at some point or was

1065
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: it just Okay, we liked this guy, so we're gonna

1066
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: go ahead and get a quarterback. How was that kind

1067
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 1: of how did that play out? You know, at the time,

1068
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't think Tony was going to be gone,

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00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 1: so we weren't just completely we we knew he was

1070
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 1: coming to the final he was round in third base.

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00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: But sometimes that stretch can last a while before you

1072
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: get all the way home. And you know, we we

1073
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: did a lot of work on Carson once you know

1074
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: we're going to play this week, and Jared goff and

1075
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: and Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook and and dak and

1076
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: all these other guys that were in there. Jeff driscoll,

1077
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, we really spent a lot of time working

1078
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: on those guys because we had obviously we had a

1079
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: really high pick and you don't plan on being up there,

1080
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: you know, and that is usually the one spot where

1081
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: you can I mean, obviously nothing's guaranteed, but you've got

1082
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: a better shout at hitting a franchise quarterback up with

1083
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: the first four or five picks. And as an organization,

1084
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: you never want to be in the first four or

1085
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 1: five picks. So if you're there and there's franchise worthy

1086
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you think are there, regardless of who's on

1087
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: your roster, you got to think about that at that point.

1088
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: And we did a lot of thinking about it, and

1089
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: we did a lot of travel going to get to

1090
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 1: know these guys, and we were fortunate enough or misfortunate

1091
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: enough if you look at to coaching the Senior Bowl

1092
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: that year and got some extra exposure to these guys.

1093
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: So all that really helped us at the end. And

1094
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, I certainly don't want to say Dak was

1095
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: an afterthought because there was a lot of work put

1096
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: into Dak Prescott as well. But the fact that he

1097
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: fell down to you know where he did us, you know,

1098
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 1: the rest of the league kind of had that same

1099
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: yeah look at him too, you know, so you know,

1100
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: you just you get lucky sometimes. What's the biggest change

1101
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: from nineteen ninety to now? You've got all kind of

1102
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: new technology and stuff. What's the doesn't necessarily have to

1103
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 1: be technology based. But what's the biggest difference between when

1104
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: you came into the league and what you guys are

1105
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: doing now. Well, technology certainly would be number one. I

1106
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: mean when I first came in, our guys were literally

1107
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: typing reports or handwritten reports, And of course now we

1108
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: have you can write an entire report on your iPhone

1109
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: if you want to. Nowadays with our system, you know,

1110
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: some of the guys use iPads, some of them use

1111
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: touchscreen computers. The technology of the war room is unbelievable now.

1112
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: Like I've mentioned earlier, I used to have to hut

1113
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: out cardboard cards and magnets, and every time we'd make

1114
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: a change, you'd have to make new ones, and you'd

1115
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,360
Speaker 1: be doing a whole new set the night before the draft.

1116
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: And now everything's digital. Man, I can just slide a

1117
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 1: guy up and down with a touch of a finger

1118
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: and rearrange things go together. It's are you the only

1119
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: person in the building that knows how to run that board?

1120
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: I wish I could say yes, but I'm not sure

1121
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: if there's truly anybody in the building that really knows

1122
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: about the board. It's still in progress. I mean, it's

1123
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: it's fascinating technology, and our guys that Dave Birch and

1124
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: Elton and these other guys that work on that, they

1125
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: do a fantastic job of of trying to figure that

1126
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: out and make it. It's going to be a better

1127
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: product next year than it was this past year. We

1128
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 1: were just scratching the surface. So we're really excited about

1129
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: if the If the learning curves high enough, people are

1130
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: usually happy to let you continue being the expert at

1131
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: that one thing they don't advise for that there's job security,

1132
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: and that exactly if if you ever take a tour

1133
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: of the Star and no one's in the in the

1134
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: war room, I believe you get to go in there.

1135
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: It's worth it just to see this board. It is legit,

1136
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: wall to wall, side to side, floor to ceiling, and

1137
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: it's completely touch screen. And you can pull this scouting

1138
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: video up of a guy in college and have ten

1139
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: different ones up and all this other stuff and it

1140
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: is insane the technologies like Election Night on CNN or something. Yeah,

1141
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: it really is, and you know, and for you know

1142
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: it's and of course you know during draft time it's

1143
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: really live because we've got four other boards in there

1144
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: that are all touch interactive and we can put I mean,

1145
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: just a whole lot of different information up at the

1146
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: same time to you know, to rack our brains on

1147
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: what we're trying to get accomplished in there. So what

1148
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: is what will it take for Chris to be a

1149
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: regular guest on that? I was just thinking I could

1150
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: talk to Chris all day. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it shows us.

1151
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: Just find a sponsor for me and hey, yeah, it's

1152
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: a free unwear out of the deal to Chris Man,

1153
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: this has been awesome me too. I could go till

1154
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: five or six o'clock tonight, like I don't. I've got

1155
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: so many more questions, but we know you. You have

1156
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: a job to do, Kurt, and I have a job

1157
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: to do, kind of, they tell us. Thank goodness, I

1158
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: still have a job after after draft day. So well, Chris,

1159
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on man, you've been definitely want to

1160
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: get you on some more before the season's over. Love too,

1161
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 1: This is awesome, definitely, Kurt, Thanks for showing up, Sir Douglas,

1162
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: thanks for doing whatever you do in that room. Kent,

1163
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: thanks for pushing the button. We will be back tomorrow.

1164
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: We will have Darrow all right, Yes, artists and it

1165
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 1: talks some Iron Maiden some rage. Yeah ight, I bet

1166
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: he knows who they are, the artists responsible for ice

1167
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: cream paint job and get big. We'll be in studio

1168
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: with us tomorrow, so we'll talk a little Cowboys football

1169
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: with him and see where that goes. One thirty tomorrow,

1170
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: Hanging with the Boys. This has been a production of

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