1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Miami Martins are calling up Augustin Ramirez to make his 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: major league debut at some point in the upcoming home stand. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: My guess would be maybe on Tuesday, I mean early, 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: as early as tomorrow would be great, since Liam Hicks 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: did catch today, but he with Eli, should have Karl 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Ron soon should have a lot more of our staff. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: But Augustin Ramirez, it's time. Probably should have happened a 8 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: long time ago, but someone who really impressed throughout spring training, 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: had a really good spring, just really needed to show 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: that he could catch. Showed some improvements on that front. 11 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: But Eli, you know one of our top prospects. Just 12 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: looking it up right now, he is number number three along. 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: The center system. 14 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, number three prospects fish on first, top thirty getting 15 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: the call up, and someone got the one on the 16 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: call up contest there for sure. 17 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 3: I did. I he was on my call He was 18 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 3: one of my call up contest picks. Yes, I was 19 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: very confident he was going to debut this year. Just 20 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 3: to get to the point about why he's being called 21 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: up now, it's because Rob Brantley got hurt. You could 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 3: see it on a swing that he had in the 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: top of the fifth inning. I believe it was today, 24 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: and then he kept swinging a couple after that. The 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 3: training step didn't seem to take notice that there was 26 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: something wrong with his right shoulder. So he's definitely going 27 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: on the IL. We'll see for how long. But the 28 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 3: very least, Augustine, he was already on the forty man roster, 29 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: so that was the logical move. I mean, the only 30 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: other alternative was maybe Brian Navaretto, who's the backup at 31 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: Triple A, who's not even on the forty man, but 32 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: they didn't really that was would have created just another 33 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 3: big headache for a team that has a full forty 34 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: man Augustine, he's ready offensively, he is not ready defensively. 35 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: I'm sure we're gonna get into that, but I'm excited 36 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: all things considered. 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 1: All Righty Carver, this is this is one of your 38 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: guys here. You're really high on him, at least on 39 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: the office side. We know how you feel about him defensively, 40 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on on Ramires getting the call up? 41 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: It's i mean, coming off the heels of a huge 42 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: winning in Philly. 43 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Well yeah, it's it's fine. 44 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you know after that, you know what was 45 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: the last week where that that deadline pass where they 46 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: could save the year of control. This was kind of expected, 47 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: where just kind of waiting, and I think, as the elis said, 48 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 4: the injury to Brantley is what kind of has spurred this. Yeah, 49 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: we elif that is true. This guy is ready offensively 50 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 4: and not ready at all defensively. So I mean, he's 51 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 4: already allowed twenty two stolen bases this year in Triple 52 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 4: A tough oppositions. He's only caught six runners. So you 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 4: will see a very very still very raw catcher defensively, 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: but a decent bat. The thing to worry about his strikeouts. 55 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: He has a twenty two rate this year in Triple A. 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 4: I think that will go up even more at the 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 4: major league level, especially to start. But no, it's it's 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 4: the Marlins have nothing else to lose except for more games, 59 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 4: so it's fine. 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see this guy play at the highest level. 61 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 4: I'm excited to see what he can do, especially offensively, 62 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 4: and hopefully he can be coached defensively. I will still 63 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 4: stick to the fact that I think eventually the Marlins 64 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: will move off of him as a catcher because I 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 4: don't think he's a catcher, but the bat plays. I 66 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 4: think it will still play even amidst a high strikeout 67 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: rate the. 68 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 2: Powers for real. 69 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if he could be coached by Marlins coaches 70 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 4: to even improve a little bit more, especially in terms 71 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 4: of strikeouts and swing decisions, I think that this is 72 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 4: a decent prospect, even if he moves off to d 73 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: H or first base, which I think is where his 74 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 4: home eventually will be. 75 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: So not bad timing, I'm not mad about it. 76 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 4: I think the only other guy that was in the 77 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 4: question here would have been Navaretto or maybe Harra Bearter 78 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: Hernandez who can kind of fake it as a catcher 79 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 4: but isn't really a catcher either. 80 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: But no, not bad at all. The timing is fine. 81 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 4: They have the extra year of control in their back pocket, 82 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 4: so it's fine. 83 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: And I'm excited to see this guy play against the. 84 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: Reds just for a quick I guess backstore on this 85 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: whole catching situation with the Marlins. The Marlins acquired Ramirez 86 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: and a three player package for Gas and Junior. It 87 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: was with George Stern and Abrahon Ramirez and Nick fort 88 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: has went down with the oblique strain, which meant that 89 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Rob Brantley got the contract selection and he returned to 90 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: action for the first time with the Fish since twenty thirteen. 91 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: Then he went down with a swing injury today, like 92 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: a shoulder injury, and they're now calling up Augustin Ramirez, 93 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: which he had his contract selected for the forty man 94 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: roster this offseason along with I want to say it 95 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: was Dax Fulton and Jared surn I want to say, so. 96 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, so it'll be as simple. 97 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: You put Branley onto il and Well and Ramirez gets 98 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 1: to call up. So I mean, in hindsight, Eli, this 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: trade is starting to look pretty good for the Marlins, 100 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, with what Serna's doing. Ramirez obviously still very young, 101 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: but I mean we're starting to finally see that trade 102 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: come to fruition, at least at the major league level, 103 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: and it's looking like one of the better deals of 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 1: that deadline. I know it's early to say, but I mean, 105 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: just what Ramirez has done offensively, you know, it's it's 106 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: really impressive, and it's one of the safer profiles at 107 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: least in the the Marlins system so far. 108 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, his stock has gone up since the trade, and 109 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 3: it was going up right before the trade. As well, 110 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: but even since then, just how well rounded he is offensively. 111 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: The batted ball quality is awesome, but he's also really disciplined, 112 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 3: and the question is where you play him, and the 113 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: Marlins is this year have been insistent on they continue 114 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 3: to insist on him being a catcher, to the point 115 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: that he hasn't even gotten any reps at any other 116 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 3: position this season. Only catcher, not even first base, where 117 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: he did play a decent amount last year with both 118 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: the Yankee system and in Jacksonville. So that puts him 119 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: in a position where they just needed an opening at 120 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: catcher to call him up. There was a case to 121 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: be made that he should come up instead of Brantly 122 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: last week, but it really it's hard to I can 123 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 3: see both sides of it, just because he is still 124 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: very flawed defensively. If you want to give him time 125 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 3: and an opportunity to get better, I don't think learning 126 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: it in the big leagues is gonna go all that 127 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 3: well for him. Well, certainly it's going to be difficult 128 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: for them to overcome that to win games if there's 129 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: just mistakes made and really inconvenient situations. So I'm kind 130 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: of torn on this because I don't think they should 131 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 3: really be focusing on him as a catcher anyway. If 132 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 3: they are going to do it, what is the best 133 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: environment for him to do that. I really don't know. 134 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: I just know that the bat is ready. He's a 135 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: guy that should be getting DH opportunities on days when 136 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 3: he isn't catching, and that's what makes him kind of unique. 137 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: He is at that threshold of catchers that the Marlins 138 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: have not had whatsoever since the real Muto trade. I 139 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: guess you could say Alfaro. There were some moments with 140 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: Jorge Alfaro in like twenty nineteen where you're like, this 141 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: guy can DH for us on days when it's not 142 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: catching and still contribute. So at least I'd say that 143 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 3: is kind of the When have the Marlins last had 144 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: something like this? You could say it's sort of al Faro, 145 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: except he has better plague discipline, and yeah, I think 146 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: he's just going to be a better all around hitter 147 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: than al Faro was. As thinks currently lined up, I 148 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: think it's pretty simple where he kind of wag him 149 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 3: in in nervous platooning at first base, and then on 150 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 3: most other days, yeah, I think at least once a 151 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 3: week you could have Augustine dhing himself and getting him 152 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: in the lineup. It's been, as we can unpack, you know, 153 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: the reason why the Martin's been losing games have been 154 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 3: more so for their pitching staff than their offense. They've 155 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: actually been finding a way somehow to score runs with 156 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: these really unexpected contributors offensively, so their big issue has 157 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 3: actually been preventing rounds more so than scoring it. All 158 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 3: things considered, it is an upgrade for them, and it's 159 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 3: at a point, as we could get into where they've 160 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: already got that extra year of club control. They're long 161 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 3: enough into the season where he's seven years away from 162 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 3: free agency, all the way through twenty thirty one. The 163 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: only reason that continuating is if you're really getting greedy 164 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 3: and thinking about arbitration and trying to push back his 165 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: arbitration eligibility by an extra year. But they've already got 166 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: the main thing they were looking for, the reason why 167 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: he wasn't really in consideration for an opening day spot, 168 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: and in the meantime, so now for the near term future, 169 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: we'll see what happens when Nick Fortes comes back, which 170 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: shouldn't be all that long coming back from one of 171 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: the many guys that's had an oblique strain, but in 172 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: the meantime, you got a rookie catching combo of Hicks 173 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: and Augustine. That is pretty unusual. 174 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: That's I think that the ELI already called this out. 175 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: The main reason that you see this player called up 176 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 4: now is because he's on the forty man roster. 177 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: But I mean, I don't, I don't. 178 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if that should be the only reason 179 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: that this player was called up. Because there's another catcher 180 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 4: in the system that I believe is more ready than 181 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: Augustin Ramirez, and that's Joe Mack. Joe Mack is much 182 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: more ready to play major league baseball, in my opinion 183 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 4: than Augustin Ramirez, not only offensively, but especially especially defensively. 184 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: So I don't know. I thought there was ways they 185 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: could go to get a forty man roster spot cleared. 186 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 4: If this was going to be the spot for a 187 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 4: big prospect. I thought that Joe Mack probably should have 188 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: been the top prospect call up over Augustin Ramirez. 189 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 2: And I'm not mad about it. 190 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: I'm excited to see this guy play, But I think 191 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 4: that there was room to clear out of forty man's No, 192 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: I don't think that's. 193 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: All right, if I could jump in just quickly on that, 194 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: I don't think you see Joe MACKINTI the very end 195 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: of the year or until if Leam Hicks for whatever 196 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: reason flames out before then. How many catchers can they 197 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 3: have on the forty man at one time If you 198 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: have Augustine's already there, Fortes is there, and Hicks needs 199 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: to stay there, and Mac, you don't have to put 200 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: them on until after the season. It's it's yeah, it's 201 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 3: hard to navigate with four catchers on your forty man, 202 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: especially three of them are rookies at the same time. 203 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: Even if we feel very highly about Mac because of 204 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: prospect again that I guess his ceiling is even higher 205 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 3: as an overall player then Augustine is. I don't think 206 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: that was even a thought in their minds at this 207 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: stage of the season. 208 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 4: For a team that preaches they'll call you up when 209 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: you're ready, Joe Mack is more ready than Ramirez. 210 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: You lie, that's it. I mean, I know that's posturing, 211 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: and there is posturing there. 212 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you have to deal with so many catchers 213 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: on your forty man roster, Like I don't think that 214 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: even matter. I really don't even think that matters how 215 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 4: many catchers you have on your forty man versus how 216 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 4: many you don't, because Augustin Ramirez won't be a catcher. 217 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 2: And I think we're all on board with that. 218 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 4: So Augustin Ramirez being on the forty man as a catcher, 219 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 4: I think is a very very part time thing. 220 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 2: So Joe Mack, I think should have been the call 221 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 2: up here. I think they should have that had Joe 222 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 2: mac for the forty man and called him up over Ramirez. 223 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: That's me, all. 224 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: Righty, well, really quickly want to go to Issy on 225 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: his thoughts. And on top of that, well, Joe Mack 226 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: will probably go to Triple A now and what and 227 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: where do you see this going, Isaac, Because let's say 228 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: Ramirez gets up here now, starts off hot, and it's 229 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: you know, he's forcing the hand to stay up here. 230 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: What do you do after that? 231 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: Because you know you have William Higgs, who, as el 232 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: I mentioned, needs to be on the forty man. You 233 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: have when Nick Bortez, you got out to a good start, 234 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the pitching staff is a lot more 235 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: comfortable with a veteran guy. Rob Brandley probably gets THEFA once. 236 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 5: You returned right, Well, Higgs has to be on the 237 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 5: twenty sixth man. Twenty six Yeah, you're right, yeah, exactly 238 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 5: so with Ramirez, assuming he does hit and he does 239 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 5: not completely fumble this opportunity offensively anyway, I think that 240 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 5: there is definitely, wholeheartedly probably best case scenario. 241 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: That when Fortes does come back. That's a little bit 242 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: down the road, I think. 243 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 5: But still when when that does happen, there's definitely room 244 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 5: for the three of them on the act of twenty 245 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: six men. In my opinion, he should be getting a 246 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,199 Speaker 5: lot of that bats instead of Eric Wlagman, instead of some. 247 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: Of these other guys at d H even first phase. 248 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 5: I'm not quite sure how many how many games he 249 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 5: has played at first base with Jacksonville this year and 250 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: played all right, so I know he's been catching in 251 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 5: DHING but like I said, it's not like they have 252 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 5: murderers row right there. Offensively, aside from the catcher's position, 253 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 5: there's plenty of room for Ramirez to take over some 254 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: advats and I really hope it does go well. I 255 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 5: do like Joe mcc a lot more overalls the player, 256 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 5: I do agree, but I agree with mister Eli that 257 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 5: I don't think that was in their minds whatsoever. 258 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: I think he I don't know if he'll get to 259 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 2: call it to triple. 260 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 5: I assume that would make sense, but I want to 261 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 5: be strange for a catcher who's you know, been dealing 262 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 5: with the whole pensil golden staff to all of a 263 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 5: sudden it's moved to a new staff. 264 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 3: In the middle. 265 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 5: I don't know. I guess that might be normal. 266 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 2: I'm not positive he will go. 267 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 5: To Jacksonville, but either way, this is a big day 268 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 5: for the Marvels organization. You guys touched on it earlier 269 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: at the trade Return for Jazz Chism Junior is a 270 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 5: This is probably one of the bigger debuts since Uring Press, 271 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: in my opinion, so I'm very much looking forward to it. 272 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 5: Kevin will be there show first tomorrow and for the 273 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 5: entire Red series, so we will have you well covered 274 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 5: for these next three games.