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Speaker 1: and we we smoked him. Good for you, man, Yeah,

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00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was basically the digital team

430
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: beat beat up on you catching passes out of the backfield.

431
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: But he was a center. But then I center's the

432
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 1: most important part in flight. But this would always kind

433
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 1: of pick six in that game too. As as a linebacker,

434
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: always say the kids, a center, you're the most imported.

435
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,600
Speaker 1: Did you start to play? You start to play every

436
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: play to fall on every play that's right, you're just

437
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 1: ineligible for Yeah, that's it, all right. So look that's

438
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: a look at the whiteouts in this year's class. Thank goodness,

439
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: there is not one named Red Kleinschman, Thank goodness, for

440
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,159
Speaker 1: everyone's sake. Alright, let's move on here to some Draft

441
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 1: night trades we love to see because we give you

442
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 1: a few of them almost every day. On path of

443
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 1: the draft, we had a doozy I mean, there was

444
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: a doozy, dozy three team trade. I think there was

445
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: twenty picks involved, and it was lot that it was

446
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 1: a lot, It was a lot of do we had

447
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: the mock with Charlie. Charlie tried to select Marcus Davenport

448
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: twice and he loved him so much. That's neither here

449
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: nor there. Uh, this would be a little more simple.

450
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: How about a Draft knight trade. You'd love to see here.

451
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,399
Speaker 1: But I would love to see the New England Patriots

452
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 1: trading to a position to get Lamar Jackson, whether it's

453
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 1: up or down, probably down, Um, I would just I'm

454
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: fascinated by what Josh McDaniel and Bill Belichick would do

455
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,120
Speaker 1: with the talent like Lamar Jackson. We knew that Josh

456
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: McDaniels years ago used the first round pick on a

457
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 1: guy named Tim Tebow. Never really got an opportunity to

458
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: tap into t Bow's talents before he was fired. So

459
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: to give him an opportunity to have a dual threat playmaker,

460
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: someone who can run around h like a running back

461
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: but also has a big arm. I would love to

462
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: see what they can craft and concoct and come up with.

463
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: And to think about the prospect of the Patriots playing

464
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: a completely different way after TV. I just I just

465
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: would love to see how AFC East teams would have

466
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 1: just to having to deal with something that's completely off

467
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: their radar. Look, and I think Tom Brady has given

468
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: his stamp of approval on this one, as you know,

469
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's out there kicking balls and quitar I

470
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 1: mean like what like well, based on your based on

471
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,879
Speaker 1: your comments, the NFL network Instagram handles sent out that

472
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: with your comments that said that you'd love to see

473
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,959
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in New England because of what you mentioned,

474
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: and you know, and Lamar Jackson or and Tom Brady

475
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: sitting there commented it was like Lamart So look, I

476
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: think he's all in on it. A trade. I would

477
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: like to see. All right, So I'm gonna give you

478
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: one and a half because I am all in on

479
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: the Texans this year. I'm just gonna tell you that

480
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: right now. Then I'm all in on the Texas like

481
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: you were all in on the Giants, Like, Okay, you

482
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: didn't host that show where I didn't. I didn't, so

483
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: I don't think I did. Like in the offseason. Yeah,

484
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: it's one of those shows. I was like Printum, I

485
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 1: was yeah, yeah, you're no, you are ready. Look I'm

486
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 1: with you. I'm always with but look, I'm all in

487
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: on the Texans with If Deshaun Watson comes back fully healthy,

488
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: this is a team that's scary. J J. Watt comes

489
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 1: back fully healthy, Whitney merciless. They went and got Aaron Colvin,

490
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: uh and you know like that, that's a pretty darny

491
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: good team at every level. On defense, I'd love to

492
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: see a little more depth on that offensive line, a

493
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: little more talent on up there. I would love to

494
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: see them trade up for one of the better tight

495
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Speaker 1: ends in this class. They needed Griffin Ryan Griffins had

496
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Speaker 1: some but I want to see I'd love to see

497
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: them end up with a Hayden Hurst or something like that,

498
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 1: but they don't really, I don't knowssure they have the

499
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Speaker 1: capital to do with their first picks. In the third round,

500
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: they got a couple of third rounders. Hopefully maybe one

501
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: those guys can fall to them. But I would love

502
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: to see them give Deshaun Watson. Yeah, more weapons. But

503
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: I mean as DeAndre Hopkins Is did the best combo.

504
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean Global hop right, Global Paris did the best

505
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: combo and football. So and here's another one that's not

506
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: going to happen, but I'd love to see it because

507
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: the ra ms are pushing all the chips into the table.

508
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: Let's get back into the first round somehow. Let's go

509
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: get Harold Landry. Let's go get an edge guy. That

510
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: would be nice. They need one picked up the interior, right,

511
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: That is what they're missing. They're missing that one edge

512
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: defended that can get ten, eleven, twelve sacks. But inside

513
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: what Aaron Donald and dominance in the back end with

514
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: a keep to leading and Marcus Peters the Marcus Joiner.

515
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: They have everything. They a little lightening linement, but I

516
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if you can everything. And clearly

517
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: they don't care about getting rid of picks. So you know,

518
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: get rid of a couple more and go get your

519
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: first round picking Harold Landry. There, that's a that's a fantasy,

520
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: a fantasy there. But perhaps perhaps it's some something like

521
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: that could happen. Um. All right, So talking about team

522
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: a team maybe jumping into the first round, how about

523
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: a player that's maybe sitting on the edge or sitting

524
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: in the top of that second that might jump into

525
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: the first How about Sony Michelle from Georgia loved that one.

526
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: I think he benefits from the what I'll call the

527
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 1: Alvan Kamar effect. So many people missed out on Avan Kamar,

528
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: So many people underestimated what he would be, even though

529
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: I felt like it was very clear in a parent

530
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: on tape what he was, that he was dynamic, he

531
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: was terrific. He kind of reminded me of Jamal Charles

532
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: as a player, and Sony Michelle. Let's he a similar

533
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: player to Commer, A guy that can not only affect

534
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: the game as a runner inside and out on the edges,

535
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: but as a receiver catching the ball, winning one on

536
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: one matchups, on option routes against linebackers. I think he

537
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: can be a handful. I think a bunch of executives

538
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: eventually see him like that. I wouldn't be surprised to

539
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: see him to kind of jump into the first round

540
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: surprisingly to a team in the twenties to the in

541
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: the twenties. That's I mean, you only get thirty, not

542
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: to get you get you uh look here it does.

543
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean you knew it was coming at some point today.

544
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: You're on board with this because you might you know else,

545
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. They must, they must, they must have a

546
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: pipeline like you're gonna show him one day and just

547
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: all kinds of orange and black stuff because they are

548
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: just sending everything like you've endorsed weird receivers already. Quarterback.

549
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, who else is next? Next? You're gonna talk

550
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: about pickings in your checkbooker or something. We're talking about

551
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: the winning is quarterback in Oklahoma State history. I mean,

552
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 1: surpassing his head coach, Mike Gundi. And when you were

553
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: mentioned in the same breast in terms of production with

554
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, you've done something right. Look, he said yesterday

555
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: on Paths of the Draft for his weekly appearance that

556
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: he's a winner. And he can say that because for

557
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: three straight seasons he won ten ten or more games.

558
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: So you know, look, and what's the biggest knock on Mason? Right?

559
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: The ball doesn't pop out of his hand? Is that

560
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 1: something that you hear? But I mean, you know, it's

561
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: so funny because he's so polarizing. When you talk to

562
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 1: uh scouts, they say, look, uh, some people think he's

563
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: just a guy. He's just a guy. And then others thing, look,

564
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: I think the guy can spend it. I think you

565
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: threw it. Uh. He plays the ball, plays the game

566
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 1: well within the box, which is fifteen and under in

567
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: terms of getting the ball out, working at horizontally. Forically,

568
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: he delivers it on time. He appears to have all

569
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: the intangibles and the leadership and communication qualities that you

570
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: want for the position. Other people aren't necessarily buying in,

571
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: but I can see scenarios where this guy comes off

572
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: the board in the first round. I know there were

573
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: some teams that were very, very intrigued by him, Steelers

574
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: being one of them. Steelers being way back, like even

575
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: back in the far like. I went to a ballgame

576
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, head Um general manager and the assistant gentleman

577
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: and Jay watching him. So there were people that were

578
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: kicking the tires on Mason Rudolph trying to see if

579
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: he could be a franchise. I got to know him

580
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: a little bit at the Manning Passing Academy and best budds.

581
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: We are best buds man. But he's a guy that

582
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: like when you when you see when you look at

583
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: him in the huddle, man, I can be like, all right,

584
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: I'll roll with this dude. Yeah, Like the presidence is

585
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: definitely there. Um, I think the i Q is there

586
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: when you talk to him a ball. He has a

587
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: pretty good grasp of concepts. I think he has a

588
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: chance and um. But once again, in the scott A community,

589
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: it's a little split. I think it depends on what

590
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: you're looking for that position. But I certainly can see

591
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: him getting to the bottom of the first round at

592
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: the worst. I think he's a solid second one. I

593
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: got it. You guys are almost doppelgangers. Oh well, that's

594
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: quite a quite a compliment for Mason. Yeah, but no,

595
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 1: you guys are you guys are I think you could

596
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: pass for doppelgangers? Okay, I feel about the um, you know,

597
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I'll just take the same haircut, same exact haircut. He's

598
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: got a little bit more of the flat topics. My

599
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: guy's name from Blue Chips, the Ricky Ricky Ricky from

600
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: Blue Chips with the he's got a little bit of

601
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: that on it. But um, almost alright, alright, I'll appreciate me.

602
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: I'll take that into consideration. Show back to the workshop,

603
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: and then asked James Washington how he can throw the

604
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: deep ball? Um, how about another guy? You know? Anybody

605
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: else did you jump in the first round? Buck? How

606
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: about Lorenzo Carter from Georgia. And some of this is

607
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: a little bit on projection, but Lorenzo Carter is going

608
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: to be a guy that people view as a pass rusher,

609
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: much like they viewed his former teammate Leonard Floyd. Lorenzo

610
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: could benefit from the fact that the physical traits are outstanding. Length,

611
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: the athleticism, the thing he displays and flashes. It is

612
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: easy to get intrigued and enticed at the prospect that man,

613
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: I can just develop him and get him with the

614
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: write pass rushing coach, teach him how to do a

615
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: couple of things. His versatility. Um, so I think at

616
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: the bottom of the first round for some of those things,

617
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: because look, it's just there's a huge divide in terms

618
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: of trying to find pass rushers and those hybrid guys

619
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: off the edge. I think he could be a guy

620
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: distinct to the bottom in the first one, and once

621
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: you give pass Harold Landry, I mean it's you know,

622
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: and some would say that he maybe can be in

623
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: front Hald Carol Landry, better athlete, um and those things.

624
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: So it would be interesting to see how that plays out.

625
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: Can I give you another one that maybe not as

626
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: a prolific uh as an edge rusher as let's say

627
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: Harold was or certainly Bradley Chubb was. But what about

628
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: Sam Hubbert out of state? I think he's he's kind

629
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: of ended his career on about as high and noted

630
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: you could possibly in his final two games, I mean

631
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: to an as stacks against Michigan, two sacks against USC

632
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: in the bowl game. Doesn't he scream Patriot to you

633
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: at the back end of the first round? Oh for sure.

634
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: I've said that time and time again. He kind of

635
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: reminds me of Mike lacrosse background. Lacrosse background, the versatility,

636
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: the athleticism, doesn't necessarily get enough credit for what he's

637
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: able to do as a pass rusher, and that lacrosse

638
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: background to me, speaks volumes about what he could be

639
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, as a upper now playmaker from

640
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: a two two point stands or three point stands. I

641
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: think he has a lot of untapped potential. Man. I

642
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised Carolina, New England. There are number of

643
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: teams down, dude that I could see him falling, could

644
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: have gone to note was was gonna go to Notre

645
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: Dame to play lacrosse until Urban Meyer swoops in and

646
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: big no, no kidding, and best D line three cone,

647
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: best d lineman three cone. I mean do it's an athlete, right,

648
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: all right? So those are some players that could jump

649
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: into the first round. And now this is this is it.

650
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: This is the meat of it right here. Guys, this

651
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: is our favorite player by round. And we'll start with

652
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: the first round. So these are guys we expect to

653
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: go in the first round. Who's your favorite player? When

654
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm thinking in the first round, I want to start.

655
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: I want someone that can get a gold jacket. And

656
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: when you hear the combination of von Miller and Khalil Mack,

657
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: you have to go with a guy. So I'm gonna

658
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: go Bradley Chub, Bradley Schup to me, is the best

659
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 1: pass rusher in this draft. I think you can make

660
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: the argument that he's the best prospect in this class.

661
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: And in fact, I would say that Bradley Chub is

662
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: a better prospect than Miles Garrett. Bradley Chub, to me,

663
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: it's as polished as they come as a pass rusher.

664
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: He has hand to hand combat skills, he has a

665
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: toolbox full of moves where he can get free, and

666
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: he also has first step quickness that you typically don't

667
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: find in an edge rusher. I think this guy is

668
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: as can't miss as they come as a pass rusher.

669
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: I would expect him to dominate the league from day one. Wow,

670
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: he's good and and could go as high as number

671
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: two if the GIANTSTI can pick, and if if the

672
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: Browns are really really doing to day, we're fascinating. Does

673
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: that like a yaller Horn? Not alone wolf? Just just

674
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: start out a wolf? Okay, alright, well it's kind of

675
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: a dying wolf. I did seem like the wolf was distressed. Okay,

676
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: I like that. My favorite player is a guard is

677
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: I mean, that's not the sex, but it's not necessarily

678
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: that as a guard guard you pick. It's will her

679
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: Nandez and like, I'm gonna tell you why, because he's

680
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: a he is a freaking eracer. He he will leave

681
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: a hole where a defender was, and you will and

682
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: it will be clear to see right. And we saw

683
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: it in the Senior Bowl. I mean he was. If

684
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: I was a student at you Tep and I was

685
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: trying to find a reason to go watch the Windless

686
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: UTEP Miners play last year the O and twelve you

687
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: TEP Miners, I would pay the price of admission to

688
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: watch Will her Nandez just destroy people all of like

689
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: five dollars, right, whatever, whatever it was, They're probably giving

690
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: you a free ticket to that point. But look, I

691
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: love the line that Lance Lancer Line gave him on

692
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: the Scouting Report. Scouting Report, Once he digs his hands

693
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: into an opponent's frame, they are done. It's over right,

694
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: and when the when your prospects. Biggest negative is that

695
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: he's too aggressive in his physical nature, like he wants

696
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: to strike you too much. Like he's too aggressive there.

697
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, I can dig this guy. I

698
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: like Will Hernandez Um. I think he is like he's

699
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: your highlight tape guy as a guard, right, he's gonna

700
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna maul people in the run game, and he

701
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: was a little bit better in the past game than

702
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 1: people thought down at the Senior Bowl. Right, here's the thing,

703
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: because I would say that, um, he's a solid interior player.

704
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: And I know there's been a lot of conversation about

705
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson being a guy, but when I look at

706
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: will her Nandez, I think will her nandez game maybe

707
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: better suited for the pros than Quint Nelson, because I

708
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: know we see Quinn Nelson make these splashy, highlight tape

709
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: blocks where he just throws guys like he's in a

710
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: wrestling ring and he's Goldberg. But I think the game

711
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: is a little different than that, and I think will

712
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: Hernandez his game is a little more refined, a little

713
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: more polished in terms of how he's gonna have to

714
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: play with his hands. I just think he's a system.

715
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: I agree. I think he's a really really good player.

716
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't won a game in a little

717
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: while either, so he's angry. So you got that, You've

718
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: got that going for it, and I don't want to

719
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: see that dude angry. It's like the Hulk. Let's move

720
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: on around to Bucky your favorite player around to Sam Hubbard.

721
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: I know we talked about him earlier, but the athleticism, diversatility,

722
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: the lacrosse background, all of those things I really really like.

723
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he's being appreciated enough, but

724
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: in the second round, if he's there, I think he

725
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: is one of the best prospects um when it comes

726
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: to playing on the edge, and I think his versatility

727
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: is going to allow him to be a multiple time

728
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: pro bowler. So I can dig that. And you know,

729
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: we we mentioned the Patriots as a guy, I mean

730
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: like he's he's a more athletic Rob Ninkovich, right, I

731
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: mean he and and so the that's a pairing that

732
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: I think with he went to your Rob. He did that.

733
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: You know, he's I think he's the only pretty guy

734
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: that I've ever actually shaking hands with. But some respect

735
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: for Nick, but um Hubbard definitely fits the bill there

736
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: as as a favorite player in the second round, My

737
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: guy is Rashime Green out of USC. You know, watched

738
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: him play a bunch this year, you know, sitting here

739
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: in l a and getting and watching USC games, but

740
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: watching him in person, seeing him in person with pads Off.

741
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,439
Speaker 1: I was like, I'd picked this dude in the second

742
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 1: round just to put him off the bus first. I mean,

743
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: that dude is intimidating now and he's seventy five. So

744
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: played interior at USC. Ten sacks last year from the

745
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: inside says a lot about his athleticism. And my story

746
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: with Racine goes all the way back in high school.

747
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,280
Speaker 1: He went to Sarah High School there in the league

748
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: where I coached Notre Dame High School in Sherman, Oak,

749
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: So we played against him every year. And so to

750
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: watch him progress from a guy that was a sophomore

751
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: to just kind of lean on his size and athleticism

752
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: to being a dominant player, to go into USC and

753
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: finally kind of settling in his final season as an

754
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: inside outside pass rusher. There's a lot of potential. There's

755
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: a lot of talent that is yet to be fully

756
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: developed and cultivated. He's a terrific prospect to take because

757
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: I do believe he can give you some of that

758
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett type stuff, being able to come outside or

759
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: inside side what your scheme and and now you know,

760
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: with talk about all the time when we say, like

761
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: how do you beat the Patriots? How do you beat

762
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady interior pressure? Interior pressure to it? Can you

763
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: do that? Can you do that in the subdefense on

764
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: third down? I think so because I think he has

765
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: experienced play in the position inside on normal down, so

766
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: I don't think it would be a huge transition for

767
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,280
Speaker 1: him to be a sub sub package inside pass rusher.

768
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do think he can throw in that role. Yeah,

769
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: whether or not we can find a home for him

770
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: on first or second down, but you know, really makes

771
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: his frame looks like he can add some weight to

772
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: it too, if yeah, think so. I don't think there

773
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: are any issues when it comes to the way that

774
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: he's built, just just a matter of finding the write

775
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: home for him, how he fits in your scheme. Four

776
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: seven three. That's a special dude. Let's go around three

777
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: and we're gonna say right there with his team, how

778
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: about Ronald Jones from usc N. Ronald Jones has not

779
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: done himself any favors by the way that he's him

780
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: in the off season, But if you go all the

781
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 1: way back to what a player's DNA is and look

782
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: at the tape, he has some outstanding tape, particularly from

783
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 1: this year. Man Hard uh show More physicality and toughness

784
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: and contact balance. This year, continued to retain the home

785
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: run ability, also caught the ball out the back field

786
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: when he had chances there. There are a lot of players,

787
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: um that can kind of feel those sub running back positions,

788
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: But I don't know if you can find a better

789
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: player built for a running back by committee situation in

790
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: Ronald Jones have nineteen touchdowns last year, and the only

791
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 1: reason I reserved the right to kind of hold off

792
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: on Um saying that he could be a number one.

793
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: I just would love to see his makeup when he's

794
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: in shape and physically like ready to go, and Kenny

795
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: would stand to pounding Um. So I would pestler Man

796
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: as a complimentary back back, but I think he has

797
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be more than that. I wanted to

798
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: love him when we were out there at USC Live

799
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: for the Pro Day, just it just you know, just

800
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Look, and I know he was trying to

801
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: give it a go, and it's clearly hamstring wasn't healthy.

802
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: And I know how that feels. When that thing's not healthy,

803
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 1: it can affect a lot of other parts of your

804
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: game too. My third round guy is another wide out

805
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop not a Colorado State and big physical place,

806
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: another senior Bowl guy watching practices. Um, look, he doesn't

807
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 1: have the speed of of d J. Chart, but he

808
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: looked faster on the field than his forty than his

809
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: forty time. Really paints the picture of because I saw him.

810
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: He's a He's the type of guy to me, Buck

811
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: that bursts off the line, and if you're wide out

812
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: and you're teaching white outs at A at A at

813
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: a lower level, you're like, you want to make every

814
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: route look the same. That dude when he stems can

815
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: challenge somebody's back pedal. His tempo off the ball is outstanding.

816
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: It is a great job of coming off the ball.

817
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: I think the best thing that he does is he

818
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: comes down with contested catches. He is tough, he's feisty,

819
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: he's fearless going inside. You repeatedly see him catch the

820
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: ball and people that draped on him, or he gets

821
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: contact right after and he holds onto the ball. A

822
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: kind of that kind of toughness. Um, he can always

823
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: be a chain movie. He can always be a guy

824
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: who works in the middle of the field. I think

825
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: he will find a home and have a long career

826
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 1: hundred receptions a year ago in Colorado State, some some

827
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: really really good production. Love the vertical burst there from

828
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. Alright, we're moving into the fourth round now,

829
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: Bucky Quinn Blanding Virginia about under rated safety. And I'm

830
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: admit to being a bit of a homer because I

831
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: coached again twice at events up at opening And what

832
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: I can tell you, man, the guy is so smart,

833
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: such a great communicator, such a great leader. UM has

834
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: the ability coming down to smack and make tackles UM

835
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: solid against the past. Can still improve some areas, but

836
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: in terms of just a guy that can kind of

837
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: get everyone lined up and do all that this stuff

838
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: he used terrific. I like that. I like that. That's

839
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: a guy did not know much about other than the

840
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: fact that the Hoosiers beat the who was this year. Um. Anyway, UM,

841
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: my fourth round guy is a Hoosier. It's my first one.

842
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: It's the first one I'm giving you all day. I

843
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: think it's t Gray Scales is the linebacker, guy who

844
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: led FBS in tackles for loss two years ago with

845
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: twenty three and a half. So we're talking about a

846
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: guy that's probably a sam linebacker on the next level. Maybe,

847
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's got some my qualities to him.

848
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: But this is a dude as at at a at

849
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: a off the ball linebacker spot in college with eighteen

850
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: career sacks. You just don't see that that often for

851
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: for an off the ball guy who's not coming off

852
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: the edge. He is a guy at the Foster Farms

853
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: Bowl two years ago against Utah, earns himself the bowl

854
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: game m v P and we lost. Okay, he's a

855
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: defensive player to get Bowl game m v P for

856
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: a losing team. I mean, this is a dude that

857
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: makes plays. He's instinctive, he's always around the football. He

858
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: affects the game with impact plays. I love empact players.

859
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 1: I love guys that have instincts and diagnostic skills and

860
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: do a great job of making players from sideline to sideline.

861
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: That is why in the fifth round, Yes, my guys,

862
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel from Iowa, Like, I know, he doesn't test

863
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: well and I know he had a tough time showing

864
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: some of the athleticism that coaches covet. However, when you

865
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: turn on the tape, he is everywhere, and maybe it's

866
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: just game, just game, funnels everything to him. He just

867
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: kind of cleans them up. But he plays that position

868
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: at a rock solid level. Um, I really really like.

869
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: I love Josie Jewel too. As Actually talking to the

870
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: coaching staff in Indiana and they brought up Josie jewel

871
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: As as a dude that was really tough to play against.

872
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: And I love those kind of guys that those that's

873
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: part of their description as man, I hate playing against

874
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: that guy and and he certainly fits that. Bill. My

875
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: fifth round guy is Calin Balache, running back Arizona State.

876
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: And I know I keep hitting you with all these

877
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl guys, but just seeing him, seeing him compete

878
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: against some of the best that that college football had

879
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: to offer, I thought he held his more than held

880
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: his own. The A ten carries for fifty seven yards

881
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 1: and in the Senior Bowl. You know what. And he's

882
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: certainly a prototypical type size and speed. Yeah, he is.

883
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: You know the funny thing, I think everyone right now

884
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: is looking for the next Levan Bill type. I think

885
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: Blaje has some of those qualities and traits where he

886
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: can do some of the things that Live has been

887
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: able to do. Catch the ball, really will it's a

888
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: good route runner. It's really kind of tough when he

889
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: has the ball in his hands as a runner, And

890
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: so that leads me to believe, man, you can take

891
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: him and put him out. Why you can go one

892
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: on one against linebackers in space creative play college will

893
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: take a kid like that and find a way to

894
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: use him as a chest piece. So it's kind of

895
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: an interesting story for me because we know he can

896
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: score Texas Tech eight touchdowns against Texas Tech a couple

897
00:43:55,840 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: of years ago, but he lost his starting job this year, know,

898
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: and to me, it kind of screams a little bit

899
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara and that you know, he didn't have the

900
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: type of like rushing attempts, He didn't have that type

901
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 1: of production. So well maybe right of that. So that so,

902
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, it'd be interesting to see what he does

903
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: when the NFL coaching staff gets their hand. Hard and

904
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: tough and physical fast. He fo six guy. He did

905
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: some impressive things. All right. Let's move to the sixth

906
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: round here, Buck Antonio Callaway from Florida, And the only

907
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: reason Kellaway is in the sixth round instead of being

908
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: in the first or second round is because he has

909
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: some issues that led to his departure from Florida. But

910
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: when you turn on the tape, I don't know if

911
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: you can find a guy that is more explosive and

912
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: refined at the position. This is a special, special talent

913
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: and you get a ved out the character and all

914
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the other stuff. But in terms of being whired the

915
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: right way to play physically, he has all that. You

916
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: just got to make sure that emotionally he is the

917
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: right fit for what you're trying to do in the

918
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: locker room. Florida's leading receiver in fifteen and sixteen and

919
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: then terrific, and then it was not really a part

920
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: of the program. In seventeen, my sixth round guys Troy Apkey,

921
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Penn State dB, who Dion Standards was so fond of

922
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: after he blew up the combine like I'm just gonna

923
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: hit you with this here, Okay, four three, four forty

924
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: for Troy Apkey, fourth fastest forty among all DBS, forty

925
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: one in vertical jump. His broad was ten eleven, and

926
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: then he's got the fifth best twenty yard shuttle and

927
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: the fourth best four three cone at six five six.

928
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: This is an athlete and he first got on my

929
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: radar when I was down at the Rose Bowl. At

930
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: the nfl p A Collegiate Bowl. I was, you know,

931
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: I'd be taking some notes. I'd look up, Oh, there's

932
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: Troy Apkey making another tackle, like, who's this, who's the

933
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: stat who's the staty out of Penn State. He was

934
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: the m v P defensive m v P of that

935
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: nfl p A game and also one of the maybe

936
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: the third tier All Star game after a senior in

937
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: East West. But he made some play in that game. Yeah,

938
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: so that's you know, he's my sixth round guy. I

939
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: think he'll have a home on special teams immediately, maybe

940
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: eventually contribute on defense. Flosive athlete, those guys always get

941
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: to the front of the line. He'll have every opportunity

942
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: to make swat over the next couple of years. But

943
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: I think he can't contribute on special teams provided they

944
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: don't get rid of the kick off. Yeah, exactly. Let's

945
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: move into the seventh round here, guys. You know, maybe

946
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: not Mr. Irrelevant, but but a seventh round shot. What

947
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: you got buck? How about Donnie Jackson from Southern We

948
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 1: talked about him the other day to the draft. Um,

949
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: when you look at him and tape, this guy get

950
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: his hands on a lot of ball, seventeen career interceptions,

951
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: outstanding ball skills and awareness. And I know you can

952
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,440
Speaker 1: talk about the step down a competition, but this is

953
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: a guy that man, he catched the ball so will

954
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: make so many plays that I think you have to

955
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: at least keep the tires in the seventh round. I'm

956
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 1: more than willing to take a flyer on a guy

957
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 1: like Jackson. Oh, no question, no question. Um, I'm gonna

958
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: have a little fun here with my round seven pick.

959
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: Another guy that I saw at the NFL p A game.

960
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: He's got some juice. His name is Daln Hawkins. Last

961
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: name should sound familiar to you because he is the

962
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: nephew of a guy who's getting a gold jacket this summer,

963
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: Brian Dawkins New Yeah be dawks nephew, and his dad, Ralph,

964
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: was also an NFL player for the Saints. My dad

965
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: actually taped his ankles for a couple of years down

966
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. Ralph Dawkins was a was a special

967
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: teamer for the Saints for about three years. But Dalen Dawkins,

968
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: out of Colorado State actually transferred from Purduce, So he

969
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: gets an eight plus in my book. For that, forgetting

970
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: out West Lafayette, uh and and over to Colorado State

971
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: where he was there leading rusher. And he was over

972
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: well over a thousand yards averaging about six yards of

973
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: pop when you give him the ball, and look, he's

974
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: way more sudden than fast. Right, he's not gonna he

975
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: didn't light up the forty. He ran a four six small,

976
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: five ft seven. He's a he's he's a guy that

977
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: in the seventh round you're gonna be like, look, this

978
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: guy doesn't have to sort of typical, but he's got traits.

979
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: He's a phone booth dude. He's gonna come out of

980
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: the phone booth clean. If there's four linebackers in there. Well,

981
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. In the seventh round is

982
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: nothing more in a priority free agent selection. So you

983
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: want to take guys that you feel good about. You're

984
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: willing to ignore some of the character concerns to take

985
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: the players. So I just kind of have new us. Yeah,

986
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: and you want my You want my priority free agent,

987
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: don't you. I don't even know. I don't know. Richard Lego.

988
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: He's my quarter he wore twenty one in college. Give me,

989
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: give me Richard Lego. He's gonna, he's gonna his arm

990
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: is gonna wow people. So I'll give Richard some love there.

991
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you do at a quarterback

992
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 1: to wears twenty one. It's like a it's like a

993
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: defense aliminate word. It's got some confidence, like that's what

994
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: that's all about. Like a d Laman wearing a single digit. No, man,

995
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: he's got he's got the he's got a little bit.

996
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: What what detail do you want to see wearing number one?

997
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love it, he's got it. He's like,

998
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: who cares, man, I'm gonna do me and then and

999
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: that's what I love. I love I love me some

1000
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: Richard lego. Um, that's fun, man. That was fine. Red

1001
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: Red came with all kinds of notes and stuff like that,

1002
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: like dropping nuggets. The whole episode recycling is gonna be

1003
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: full with all this stuff, all this stuff. But you

1004
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: know this is this is good because you know, a

1005
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: lot of times we don't get to get to you know,

1006
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: we don't get to the fifth, six seventh rounders that

1007
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: much on Paths. So I was I was glad we

1008
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: got two empty uh empty it out empty the uh

1009
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: the knowledge container out a little bit here on on

1010
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: some of our favorite guys. So what do we got

1011
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: here coming up? On? Moved the sticks here you can

1012
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: obviously we've got the Sam Donald three six coming up.

1013
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: It's the last piece, right, it is the last piece,

1014
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: and we're excited about the team is done a terrific job.

1015
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: You can find that on NFL dot com, Slash podcast,

1016
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcasts app We also have

1017
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: the mood Sticks podcast and video show coming Monday. The

1018
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: video show will stream at eight pm Eastern five pm

1019
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: Pacific time on NFL dot Com. And then you know,

1020
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: we have had to the draft every day all weekdays

1021
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: six pm on NFL Network and the two hour special

1022
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: next Thursday at eleven am. That's right, that's eight am

1023
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: out here Pacific time. So we're gonna get at you early,

1024
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: a few hours earlier than we normally do. On Thursday

1025
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: and Friday a four round two, Round two and three.

1026
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: And then we've got a wrap up show on Sunday

1027
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: at one o'clock Eastern time, from one to three to

1028
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: hour wrap up show, uh to talk about everything that

1029
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: went down in Dallas. If everything is bigger in Texas,

1030
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: this will be the biggest and best draft we have

1031
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: seen to date, and I am so excited about that. Hey,

1032
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: we have to let DJ back here on Monday or no, can?

1033
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,319
Speaker 1: I can I just hang out here? Did you did

1034
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: pretty good? Is that? I think? I think? Uh you

1035
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 1: passed with flying colors per usual? So uh yeah, well

1036
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: we'll have to We'll have to delegate, so yeah, yes,

1037
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: to figure out who's who's gonna come in and and

1038
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: how you know, yesterday on Path of the Draft we

1039
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: did a star Starter sub segment and you know, DJ

1040
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: put me in its sub and you know what, that's fine.

1041
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 1: I'll sub right in here on Moveless. No, no problem,

1042
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: no problem. But DJ will be back on Monday. He's

1043
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,240
Speaker 1: back on move back on Path of the Draft on Friday,

1044
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: and uh boy, he takes off for Dallas on Tuesday.

1045
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: I believe so um it is all happening here. We

1046
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: are a week away from the draft and had fun

1047
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,640
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1048
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:08,800
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