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Speaker 1: Well, hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw

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Speaker 1: What You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho Danielle Henderson,

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Speaker 1: Danielle is trying not to laugh right now, if only

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Speaker 1: you can see, if only you can see what we're

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Speaker 1: doing right before we decide to start talking, what we're

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Speaker 1: talking about, Well, I feel like we should just tell

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Speaker 1: them now. Yeah, Well, we were laughing about, well, how

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Speaker 1: did it even start? Now, I don't even know how

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Speaker 1: it started. We were talking about how if.

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Speaker 2: You watch enough true crime, you can probably commit a

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Speaker 2: murder successfully, and then that got into things that you

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Speaker 2: don't do, like don't mail yourself a knife, and then

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Speaker 2: that got us on a Mommy didn't dearest, because that's

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Speaker 2: what happens in Mommy didn't DearS. And we were laughing

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Speaker 2: about how we washed it together, and I was just

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Speaker 2: remembering how there was a part of that documentary I

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Speaker 2: guess where they talk about Nicholas.

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Speaker 1: Go to John, who's one of the murderers.

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Speaker 2: How he got caught prior he was caught masturbating at

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Speaker 2: McDonald's for nine hours, and we paused it and I

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Speaker 2: was like nine American hours, And then was.

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Speaker 1: Talking about working at.

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Speaker 2: Fast food restaurants, and now everybody at that past food

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Speaker 2: restaurant did everyone of that McDonald's didn't give a shit.

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Speaker 1: Just because no one had kicked him out right, like

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Speaker 1: he had been there for nine hours and nobody did

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Speaker 1: a damn thing. And I'm just sitting there going in

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Speaker 1: my experience working fast food, which I worked many many

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Speaker 1: fast food jobs when I was younger, we don't that

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Speaker 1: what I mean. And you're just like, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: know what this guy's doing. Oh my god, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Just baby cry lobby thinking about like some seventeen year

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Speaker 2: old being like, I'll do that. There's another shift coming

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Speaker 2: in a couple hours. If he's still here, they can

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Speaker 1: Let let the manager handle it. Well. Hey, we're doing

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Speaker 1: a podcast today about film, and we are extremely happy

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Speaker 1: to be with you here today because we didn't want

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Speaker 1: to just talk about McDonald's. We wanted to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about you in fact, you listener, because we've

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Speaker 1: been getting a lot of great mail from everybody, and

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Speaker 1: it's something that Danielle and I are like really into

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Speaker 1: We love hearing from you guys. We love reading emails

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Speaker 1: and the messages on social media and everything, and it's

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Speaker 1: like so heartwarming. Like on like, I'm like, this is

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Speaker 1: everyone is so great and has been so nice and

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Speaker 1: figured we'd probably just like read a couple of cool

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Speaker 2: I feel like we're on a different internet when we

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Speaker 2: get messages from our listeners because they're all so nice, and.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why would've been on this internet the whole time.

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Speaker 1: so thank you for that. Thank you for giving me hope,

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Speaker 1: which I have not had for years. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: not gotten more emails about this subject. Yeah then than this,

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Speaker 1: which is that everybody loves your grandma. Yeah, everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to know Grandma. Everybody wants to know when the T shirt, mug,

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Speaker 1: sweatpants home collection is coming with Carrie a knife cut

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Speaker 2: I have definitely told her because we had, you know,

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Speaker 2: I kind of take care of my grandma. She's you know,

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Speaker 2: she's getting older and needs some in home help. So

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Speaker 1: Did I say that? Okay? And then she's like, well,

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Speaker 2: She is fully in support of the advice that she gave.

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Speaker 2: She's very enamored and loves all the messages. You know,

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Speaker 2: thank you for just making her even more insufferable.

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Speaker 1: No, she's not. I love my grandma. She's not suffering.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, we definitely we'll get some merch go and

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Speaker 2: But it's going to be in like that that Live

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Speaker 1: And I've exactly that's exactly the vision that we're that

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Speaker 1: we have. But we yeah, we're we're cooking up some

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Speaker 1: exciting things maybe on that front. So stay tuned, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned. She will be back.

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Speaker 2: I have more recordings of her, and I'm recording new

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Speaker 2: stuff with her. Basically, all I have to do is

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Speaker 1: We're waiting. We love it.

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Speaker 2: And you've been you've been getting some really good some

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Speaker 2: watching movies with your friends.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so well. First of all, I think somebody

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Speaker 1: a movie that is based on The Lonely Hearts Killers

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Speaker 1: that was made in the nineties, I think, and it's

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Speaker 1: called Deep Crimson. It was made by a Mexican director

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Speaker 1: I yeah, it's cool. It's a cool you could do

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Speaker 1: like your own little double feature of The Honeymoon Killers

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, honestly, I feel like it has

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Speaker 2: I mean you're not only not wrong, you were one

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Speaker 1: I mean honestly, I would not tell you to program

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm always like I have a soapbox about movie links,

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Speaker 1: which is that movies are too fucking long these days.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, why don't even get started on the dramas.

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Speaker 1: Kill your darlings. It's just that crazy thing where I

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Speaker 2: Encourage people to whip out their phones because this movie

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Speaker 2: is seven hours long. Yeah, and they have to check

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Speaker 1: it is literally all about those snacks, all about the refreshments.

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Speaker 1: just you know, make a little make a little presentation

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Speaker 1: it over zoom or something, just require people do cocaine

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Speaker 1: before you watch the films. I'm kidding, but you know,

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Speaker 1: just like nobody wants to work like a fourteen hour

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Speaker 1: two extremely esoteric art films, like just you know, have

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Speaker 2: And also like you know, I would say also snack up.

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Speaker 2: Snack up first and then between movies is when you

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Speaker 2: Don't just give them the meal up front and let

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like when Danielle and I were when

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Speaker 1: we would go to the New Beverly, we would do that,

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Speaker 1: like second movie hot Dog thing.

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Speaker 2: Mm that intermission hot Dog will carry you through a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta, you gotta break. I mean I know that.

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Speaker 1: now you gotta get up. You gotta walk around. Get

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Speaker 1: the blood flowing, get the hot dogs flowing.

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Speaker 2: Standing line, Get the blood flowing by getting mad at

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Speaker 1: got to at this point. Oh god, here's here's what's great.

435
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: Here's here's what's great about the movies. This week.

436
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:55,439
Speaker 2: Millie and I both prepared for the same movie. We

437
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 2: forgot which one chose which, so we fixed it by

438
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 2: That was a pretty fun moment for us.

439
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: Yes, yes I will, we did. But you know what,

440
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 1: the theme is very very easy to talk about, at

441
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: least for me. So what's the theme? This week?

442
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: We are discussing dance conservatory movies? Why are we talking

443
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,280
Speaker 2: about dance conservatory movies? Because I don't dance. I don't

444
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: have that kind of joy in my heart. So what

445
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 2: for you is like the draw? And I kind of

446
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: questioned this of myself, like why do I watch dance

447
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: even though I can't do it?

448
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: I will say I am unshamefully in the absolute other category,

449
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: like I am obsessed with dancing. I have been since

450
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: I was a kid. Really yoh yeah. I like to

451
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 1: say it's because I'm half Filipino. Now, Filipinos fucking love dancing.

452
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: As you can witness from all of the America's Best

453
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: Dance Crew episodes. It's like the only time Filipinos are

454
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: ever on TV those shows are on, I'm like, oh,

455
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 1: there's like fifteen Filipinos on a stage. They're like the

456
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: Jabberwokies or whatever the fuck, Like my people are here,

457
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 1: thank God. But it's funny because I think that at

458
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: a certain point, I I'm I'm like uptight about a

459
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, I guess, but for some reason, I

460
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: just don't give a fuck about what anybody thinks of

461
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: me when I'm dancing. And I don't even think I'm

462
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: that good of a dancer. I just it's like I'm missing,

463
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: it's missing within me to have shame about dancing and

464
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: public love that that's pure, That is pure to me,

465
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: and I I think but I think that the reason

466
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 1: why this theme kind of appealed to us as we

467
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: were kind of planning out the episodes is because dance

468
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: conservatory movies are also kind of about performing arts schools,

469
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: and it's also about like the sort of enigma around

470
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: that about like schools that focus on like performing arts

471
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: and like you know, and that was always this like

472
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: really fucking enticing thing for me.

473
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: When I was a kid that I just never got

474
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: the opportunity to do right exactly completely it's fraud because

475
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, there are schools where you can specifically

476
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: go to be like creative and that's it, Like.

477
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: I could spend all day in art class, Like that's great,

478
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I know. It's like I went to

479
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: like this, you know, like I went to like the

480
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: shittiest suburban high school in the Deep South that specialized

481
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: in nothing. It specialized in bullying maybe specifically me. So

482
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,159
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, for I always had these dreams.

483
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,119
Speaker 1: I mean it's like you watch it like the movies

484
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: that we're going to talk about like any of these

485
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: movies that have come out over the years and that

486
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: are you know, specifically about like performing arts or dance

487
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 1: schools or whatever. And you're just like, holy shit, Like

488
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 1: imagine like you know, be in a ball arena where

489
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 1: you have to like go to school and like you know,

490
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: dance until your toenails fall off and shit, and it's

491
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: just like the one thing that you were met to do.

492
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: And I think we're just always fascinated by that. So

493
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: we're like, let's talk about it, you know what I mean.

494
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: Also, I love watching dance. I love this this you

495
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 2: know kind of dance conservatory notion of watching people develop.

496
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: It's like watching people develop a new language.

497
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: It blows my mind every time I'm watching something from

498
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: dance where I can feel the emotion coming through their

499
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: bodies and their movements. And cause, again, don't I don't

500
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 2: have that, Like I have shut that down and sealed

501
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 2: it over, Like whatever part of my brain or heart

502
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: that's supposed to be able to be into that stuff,

503
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: I personally can't do it.

504
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: But I love watching it. I love watching this development

505
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,679
Speaker 1: of a language. I did too. I love watching dance,

506
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: and I include like not just ballet or whatever, but

507
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: I include like hip hop dancing. So when I used

508
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: to live in Atlanta and I was evolved in some

509
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: adult dance class because I had always wanted to take

510
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 1: dance when I was a kid. I think I took

511
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: like some shitty tap class when I was like, you know, eight,

512
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 1: eight years old, but then most of it it was

513
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: just like dancing with my sister and my cousins.

514
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 2: Like, when you say adult dance classes, do you mean

515
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: adult dance classes?

516
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: No, adult dancing. I'm talking about like adults taking dance

517
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 1: as a discipline versus you know, pole dancing or whatever. Excellent.

518
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, I've never done those types of classes. I

519
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: just can't. That's what I think. That's the domain that

520
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: I will not move into is the pole dancing. And

521
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: I actually have heard that it's a great workout, but I'm.

522
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: Like, nah, I feel like I wouldn't do it just

523
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: because it feels appropriative, but also because.

524
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't know much.

525
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Like I've sealed over I've sealed over all the parts

526
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 2: of my heart, but I've also like completely sealed the

527
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: vagina and like the sex. Like I'm just I'm just

528
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: an empty vessel right now, all the way around that.

529
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: It's fine, but what's interesting?

530
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 2: And I'm surprised you haven't taken any kind of pole

531
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 2: dancing classes because your Instagram handle.

532
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 1: Which do you want me to say it?

533
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: Yes, So your Instagram handle is Debbie Country, which is

534
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: a reference to the movie Singles and the actress who

535
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 2: says that line basically created pole dancing classes as an exercise.

536
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: Oh my god, really yeah, look her up? Look her

537
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 1: so fascinating. Well she I hope she is a quadruple

538
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: trillionaire because everyone I know has taken those classes, but

539
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: me and you. For me, I just didn't want to

540
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: get in those like giant you gotta wear those like

541
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: stiletto heels, and I'm just like no, but I can't

542
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: dance in like high tops. Then we're not doing it right.

543
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 2: But Nicole Buyer's Instagram is great because she paid, she

544
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: is trying, she's taking pole dancing classes and she posts

545
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: videos and they're very funny.

546
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: No, Atlanta, it was. It was great. It was basically

547
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: like I was in a dance class with like other

548
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: people my age, and it was I have to speak

549
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: about my dance my former dance crew, as I've all,

550
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: we weren't really a crew. We were just people that

551
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: took a class together, but it was the mad Ex

552
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: crew from Dance one on one. I literally they were

553
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: a factor in me like moving to Like I was like,

554
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to move to la

555
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: simply because I would have to never take this class again.

556
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, oh my god, Like I was going like

557
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: four times a week to this class. Everybody in the

558
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: class was like my age, and it was so fun.

559
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: Everybody was so encouraging, and you know, it was like

560
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: the best time of my life. And I literally I

561
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: still talk to those people to this day, Like I

562
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: still text with some of them. I Mean it's been

563
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: like four years since I lived in Atlanta, but it's like,

564
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: that's how much I love dance. So I'm just like,

565
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: I'm so happy we're doing this episode and I think that, yeah,

566
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a fun one.

567
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: So well, I'll let you know what we're starting out with.

568
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: If you w h our first movie in our great

569
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: theme of dance conservatory movies, which we could even extend

570
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: to dance conservatories might fuck you up movies.

571
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: Yes, we're gonna.

572
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about Fame, which was released in nineteen eighty,

573
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: directed by Alan Parker and written by Christopher Core Why

574
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: are you here, mister Johnson?

575
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: Because I was young and single and I loves the mingos.

576
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: So Fame is Hugh. It was a huge movie, and

577
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: I was.

578
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: I would go so far as to say it was

579
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: kind of the prototype for all dance movies that followed.

580
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: There's always an element that they explored and fame that

581
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: you now see popping up in every movie. What's fantastic

582
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: about this movie? Brief synopsis. You follow a group of

583
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: students from their audition through their freshman, sophomore, junior, and

584
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: senior year at a performance arts high school in New

585
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: York City. So this movie is based on the New

586
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: York School of Performing Arts, which is now referred to

587
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: which is now called the the Fiorella LaGuardia Performing Arts

588
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: High School, or as it's commonly known in New York

589
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: La Guardia.

590
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: I love that insider knowledge.

591
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 2: Oh and yeah, so it's like a real school. The

592
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 2: events that happened are not real, but the school is.

593
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 2: What I love is they do It's like a musical

594
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 2: with you know, but there's there's music numbers, but there's

595
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: also just drama throughout.

596
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: And there's this.

597
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: One of the first songs they do as a collective

598
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: is called hot Lunch. And I found out that that

599
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: was the original title for the movie, and I'm like,

600
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: why did that?

601
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: Hot Lunch is a fucking sick ass name. Well, I

602
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: was gonna tell you a little some about hot Lunch.

603
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: Tell me about hot Lunch. Well, I literally just read

604
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: this before I arrived to record, and I was just like,

605
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,479
Speaker 1: I have not been able to stop thinking about it.

606
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 1: So here's the thing about hot Lunch, Like it would

607
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: have been called hot Lunch had not Alan Parker, the

608
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: director walked past a poor No movie theater on forty

609
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: second Street and saw that there was a poor no

610
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: named Hot Lunch. And then he did some more research

611
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: and found out that the term hot lunch is slang

612
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: for blowjob. It was the slang for blowjob in that

613
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: time in New York.

614
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: This song is blowing my mind across the room. First

615
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: of all, hot Lunch as a name for any sex

616
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: worker or performer is god damn incredible. I would see

617
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: anyone named hot Lunch do anything. I would take a.

618
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: Pole class with someone named hot Lunch.

619
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: In my next ceramics class. The teacher should be called

620
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: hot Lood. I am loving both of these facts. Yes,

621
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: what if he never took what if he never took

622
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: that walk? And the movie bombed because everyone's like, this

623
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: is a movie about blow jobs?

624
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there's high school kids in it, so

625
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: that's even harder, right, You're like, wow, I mean sometimes

626
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: things happen for a reason. I'm just saying.

627
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 2: So that was a fortuitous walk. That was the universe

628
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 2: being like, go down this street, please do not make

629
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: this mistake. Well, the hot Lunch song now takes out

630
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: a whole different meaning, but that is meant and also like,

631
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: it's also known that they weren't allowed to film at

632
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: the actual performing arts school because the board was already

633
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: worried about the profanity and sexuality. And Alan Parker has

634
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: directed some bangers. He directed The Wall, Pink Floyd's The Wall,

635
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: he directed Midnight Express Mississippi Burning. He has in most

636
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: of his movies. He's not afraid to kind of push it,

637
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: like he'll push the envelope a bit. And they were

638
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: afraid because they had seen Midnight Express in his treatment

639
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: of the Turkish prisons, and they were afraid of the

640
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 2: profanity and sexuality in this because of what they had

641
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: seen in that. And I also, for years years got

642
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: Midnight Express confused with Midnight Run. So Alan Parker great

643
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: did this movie. It premiered at Cinerama here in Hollywood,

644
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,280
Speaker 2: which is such a great theater, and it actually, again

645
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 2: like it was huge. It won two Academy Awards, won

646
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: for Original Song, one for Original Score, It won a

647
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: Golden Globe for Original Song, and it won a BASTA

648
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: for Best Sound. And then after the movie was released

649
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty, I hadn't seen the movie first. I

650
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: was I came into fame in a different way. There

651
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 2: was a TV show because it became a big franchise opportunity.

652
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: So I remember watching the TV show when I was

653
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: like six and seven, and a lot of the original

654
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: act we're in the TV show.

655
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I remember totally. For me too, I

656
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: saw the TV show way before I saw the movie.

657
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I only saw the movie. I

658
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: want to say it was probably like when I was

659
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: a senior in high school, and I honestly I remember

660
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: Debbie Allen doing the speech in the credits of the

661
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: TV show and then was like, why doesn't she have

662
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: more to do like in the movie.

663
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 2: Exactly. You see her in the movie for like three seconds.

664
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 2: She's only in the auditions. You don't see her again. Really, yeah, exactly,

665
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:33,800
Speaker 2: and that's a shame.

666
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: I think.

667
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if she choreographed any part of it,

668
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: but she definitely should have looked it up before me

669
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: started recording. But she definitely, she definitely did not.

670
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: Have a big enough role in that movie. Definitely did not.

671
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: There's also a remake of Fame that came out in

672
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine and we are not even gonna

673
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 2: talk about it.

674
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: File that in the back yep file it away not

675
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: talking about it.

676
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 2: But yeah, there are a lot of the the actors

677
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 2: in this movie went on to become stars and their

678
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: own right. And you're really again like following what I

679
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: like about this and I like this is you know,

680
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: a pick for the Dance Conservatory theme is that it

681
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: really follows these kids in every aspect of their life.

682
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: So you're not just watching them at school, which is

683
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: like chaos. You know, you've got a room full of

684
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: people who are playing horn, practicing ballet, playing piano, doing drums,

685
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: like it.

686
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: Is chaos throughout.

687
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: It just gives you that feeling that like, oh, they're

688
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 2: just so creative they can't contain it and they don't

689
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: have to.

690
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: The school encourages people to just like put their leg

691
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 1: warmers on in the hallway in front of everyone, throw

692
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: a leg up over the door of the science class.

693
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: Just go for it. Feel it. Itf you feel it.

694
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: It's great. I love those scenes. It seems like such

695
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: a heightened emotional space to be in a performing art

696
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,479
Speaker 2: school or dance conservatory that it's just you can't again,

697
00:36:58,480 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: you can't help but get good.

698
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: Stories at it it. Yeah, yeah, and good characters out

699
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: of it.

700
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, I just from the jump, just superstar shining

701
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: out of this movie. Paul mccrane, who plays Montgomery, he's

702
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: kind of this this small, shy guy, and you know,

703
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: eventually he comes out to his friends, and you know,

704
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 2: he has.

705
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Bad, bad family life.

706
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: He lives in in an apartment by himself in the

707
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 2: middle of Times Square in nineteen eighty. Okay, So, so

708
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: I knew that you grew up in New York, or

709
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: at least you grew up going to New York City,

710
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: probably at a young age, I would assume.

711
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: So, like, that's the one thing that I love well,

712
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: first of all, like let's get serious, Like New York

713
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: movie is from like the seventies and early eighties. It's

714
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: like New York is scari ast shit. Oh Like, and

715
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 1: then I'm sitting here going, like I'm watching these kids

716
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: go to their performing arts school, and I mean, I

717
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: know a lot of them are like it, Like they

718
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: all have these pretty intense backgrounds because they're all kind

719
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: of products of this like racial and like socio economic

720
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: reality of New York at that time. Right, So it's

721
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: like a lot of like LATINX people, a lot of

722
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: black kids, a lot of like you know, you know,

723
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 1: people of color. But then like the craziest thing is

724
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: that they all seem and I know that the actors

725
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: were probably older than they were playing, but like they

726
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: all seem like forty five years old. And that's why

727
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: I was like, as a kid in New York, I

728
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: feel like if you're from New York, you're like an

729
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: adult when you're like a little kid.

730
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I grew up in the country, but yeah,

731
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: I went to the city a lot because my family

732
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: is from Harlem and from the city.

733
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: And it was always when it was you.

734
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 2: Know, we went when I was very young it was

735
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 2: always it scared the shit out of me because of

736
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 2: the way that my family reacted to being there. So

737
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: my grandmother would always like grab me and hold me

738
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: clothes and be like oh, like oh my hand, and

739
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: like just you know, walking through the port authority, and

740
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: we would never take the subway. We would always walk

741
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: even if it was like forty fucking blocks away, And

742
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 2: it was just like terrifying because of.

743
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: Their reaction to it.

744
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: But then yeah, in this movie, it seems like there's

745
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: this one scene towards the end where Ralph Garci, one

746
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: of the characters, is he's doing He's doing like stand

747
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 2: up and oh my god. There's a scene where he

748
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 2: just goes it's like you're looking at a war report,

749
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 2: a war correspondent. He's talking about Kayluse and like the

750
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: ship and I'm like, you are supposed to just be

751
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: a stand up for me? What it gets so heavy

752
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: so quickly and the heaviest lives.

753
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, for Montgomery living in that apartment by himself,

754
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: for you know that to me, so like I know,

755
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: there they have a spotlight on these different kids and

756
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: like that little triad of like Montgomery, Doris and Ralph

757
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: is like so fascinating to me a because I feel

758
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of like it's like that

759
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: friends ship be had in high school where it's like, Okay,

760
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: here's like a gay kid, a straight girl who has

761
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: like a nagging Jewish stage mother, and then you have

762
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 1: this like mercurial, you know, a one car guy that

763
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: is apparently like Lenny Bruce on it during the evenings

764
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: while also going to school. By the way, Like, isn't it.

765
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: It's so funny that I always forget that Richard Belzer

766
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: was a stand up.

767
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: This is something I wanted to talk about where young

768
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: Richard Belzer is in this movie, and I completely forgot

769
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: that there. I remember that he was a stand up,

770
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: but what I forgot was there's a whole generation of

771
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,879
Speaker 2: people who only know him as a cop on law order.

772
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Bonker, Yeah yeah. He looked like he was

773
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: like in the Jay Giles band with like the fucking

774
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: glasses and the hair and shedd and he's that catch

775
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: rising star and he's like the open mic guy, and

776
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, like yeah, he was a comic.

777
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: So that's so fascinating to me.

778
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: And the other fascinating thing to me about Paul mccrane

779
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 2: who plays Montgomery, is that Paul mccrane is the same

780
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: actor who played a Meal in RoboCop, who is the

781
00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: guy that gets melted by toxic waste. And you see

782
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: his face and immediately, well, if you're me, you're like,

783
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 2: that guy gets melted by dogs and Colin.

784
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: And I love range. What a range, that kind of range.

785
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: I love the longevity of that career.

786
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 2: He's got on to do many things, but that just

787
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: instantly stuck out to me. And also, Isaac was Rahi,

788
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: the fashion designer, and I think he's he might still be,

789
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 2: but at least he was a judge on Project Runway.

790
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 2: He has a small role in this movie because he

791
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 2: actually went to the New York school the Performing Arts

792
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: that Fame is based on, and he tried out for Montgomery,

793
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: but he got kind of a smaller walking part. But

794
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: he's in there. Young Isaac ms Rahi in this movie.

795
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: You've also got Ann Mira a podcast favorite.

796
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, a podcast favorite for sure.

797
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: She's playing this English teacher who is so tough as nails,

798
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: no bullshit that I kind of.

799
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, do I have an assignment? Do? Like?

800
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: She's so scared he takes no shit, man shit. And

801
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: her most contentious relationship in the movie is with Leroy,

802
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: who's played by Gene Anthony Ray, because Leroy is illiterate

803
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: and so he can't read and she What's weird.

804
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 2: What's weird but also kind of interesting and cool to

805
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: me about this movie is that they don't really go

806
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: into whether or not he ever learns how to read,

807
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: like they don't.

808
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: There's a lot of loosens that they don't really for

809
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: sure for sure.

810
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 2: So he's but he's struggling, and they have their you know,

811
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: their standoffs, and she's just fantastic in this movie. And

812
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: I love how they meet when he first comes to

813
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: the school. He's there to support a friend of his

814
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: who's trying out, and she is a disaster of a dancer,

815
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 2: but he is naturally gifted. And they walk up to

816
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: this table to check in, and Anne Mirra's doing the

817
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,240
Speaker 2: check in and she clocks that he has a knife

818
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 2: tucked in his waistband and he's like, you want this

819
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: knife and she's like yeah, and he's like, you're gonna

820
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: steal it and she's like no, and so he drops

821
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: a knife on the table.

822
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: But then as they're.

823
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: Walking up the steps, he like opens his coat and

824
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 2: he's coat is just lined with.

825
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: Oh, oh my god. That's the thing that doesn't exist

826
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: anymore is coats that have like contraband for sale, Like

827
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: when you open up like a flasher coat and there's

828
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: like what you need? I got everything you need. Somebody

829
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: needs to make those again, the.

830
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: Tiny drugstore coats. Yeah, my favorite.

831
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: One of my favorite parts in that movie is when Lee,

832
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: as it turns out Lee Roy so obviously when they're

833
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: doing the auditions, like they audition together, but Leroy and

834
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: his friend. She clearly doesn't make the she doesn't get

835
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: into the school, but he does. And her exit from

836
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: that shit is like she is like a John Waters character.

837
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't need this dirtback shit ass fucking

838
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: school and like she's like cussing everyone out. She's fucking

839
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: pissed off. And I loved it. I was like, yo,

840
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 1: like she needs to be and she's like a John

841
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: Water's character right now, so completely agree.

842
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she was. That was just like such

843
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 2: a bright flame of a part. Oh she played it perfectly,

844
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 2: and I guess, oh yeah. Irene Kara is also in

845
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: this movie. This kind of launched her career. She sang

846
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: the theme song Fame, and she also sang out Here

847
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: on My Own.

848
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: Which was co written by Leslie Gore. But this was

849
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: like huge, a huge launch for her.

850
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 2: This movie, and it's just it's to me again because

851
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: it's like the prototype for so many others that came

852
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: after it. I just I loved it, like I feel

853
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: it was the first movie that I saw, or in

854
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: this case, TV show that I saw as a kid

855
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: that was the same thing where I felt like, oh

856
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: my god, I'm seeing black people do artistic things and

857
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: I'm seeing you know, like it was revolutionary for that

858
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: for me as a kid. And there's so much tragedy

859
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 2: that surrounded this movie, mainly through the story of gen

860
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: Anthony Ray, who played Leroy, and he died in two

861
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: thousand and three. He was only forty one.

862
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: Wow.

863
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: But during the filming, because he was in both the

864
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: movie and the TV show during the filming of the movie,

865
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: his mom was in trouble all the time because she

866
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: was selling drugs during the filming.

867
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: Oh man.

868
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: And then there's a there's a USA Today article that

869
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: notes that Ray he was kicked off the TV show

870
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: after his mother was jailed for running a drug ring,

871
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: and he also failed to turn up for work like

872
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: over one hundred times.

873
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: Holy shit.

874
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 2: So he was battling his own addictions, but his mother

875
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: was running a drug ring and they're like, you cannot

876
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: run a drug ring on the TV show.

877
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah.

878
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, and his life was tragic and so then

879
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 2: after he left the show, like it was just you know,

880
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: really took a tragic turn, like he was he was

881
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 2: homeless for a time, like sleeping on benches. He was

882
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: diagnosed with HIV in nineteen ninety six and he died

883
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 2: of a stroke in two thousand and three, and was

884
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: just so young.

885
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, honestly, like in Fame, it's kind of

886
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: impossible to imagine somebody being that fit. Like I'm just

887
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: sort of like how And I mean, I guess this

888
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: whistle was fascinating about dancers too. It's just that they're

889
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: so completely ripped, like they're just like toned within an

890
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: inch of their lives. And I mean when he's in

891
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: that scene where he's doing the audition scene, like I

892
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 1: know he's supposed to be hamming it up or whatever,

893
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: but I'm like, man, it's like peak physical fitness.

894
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: The other thing that I absolutely cannot lead. There are

895
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 2: two things that I cannot leave off the table when

896
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: talking about this movie. One is Bruno's Dead, who is

897
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 2: supportive to the point of being just iconically horrible and

898
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: is so funny and so sweet and weird. I just

899
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 2: love him so much. He's a cab driver. His son

900
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: already thinks he's from space because he's like, nobody understands

901
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: my future music because I play three keyboards at once.

902
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: And yeah, he was real innovator, that guy. Like I

903
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he would be on like he would

904
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: be on Thrilled Jockey or somewhere like indie record label

905
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: right now. He would be, like, you know, a pioneer

906
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: of the shit like he's he's a little Georgio moroder

907
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: guy who looks like Paul Rudd. Did did you notice that?

908
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, is that Paul Rudd. I'm like, no,

909
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:16,919
Speaker 1: that can't be Paul.

910
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: He gave me a mix of like Paul Rudd and

911
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: Paul Riser. Is that possible?

912
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: You kind of get both the two balls. The binary

913
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: that's the Paul binary, right Like how there's like the

914
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: row of the row of Chris is the Paul binary.

915
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: Run right, Riser, there will be a meme that's like,

916
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: who's your favorite Paul Rudd or Riser? You must choose.

917
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: This is the basis of your personality. Bruno.

918
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 2: They mean Bruno was his own thing entirely, but his

919
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: dad is just part of the beating heart of this movie.

920
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Italian as fuck. I was like love

921
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: loving all of the like Italian accoutrement in the cab

922
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: where he's got like the whore and the you know,

923
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: I'm like the horn you got, like the Virgin Mary

924
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: statue on the dash, Like this is some Italian shit

925
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: right here. We love it. We land on the guilt

926
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: left and right, like did I build you that studio? Build?

927
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: Did your mother buy you those keyboards? Just laying it

928
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: on so thick. I love it, and I also cannot okay.

929
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: There's a scene in this movie which, again in the end,

930
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: it's just it's absolute chaos. It culminates in tragedy for everyone.

931
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 2: There's pregnancy, rapes, drugs. There is a scene in a

932
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 2: hospital where there's an old lady who's an extra and

933
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: I just watch out for her, like if you're just

934
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 2: look in the background, and during the scene she is

935
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: in a wheelchair. She wheels herself into a wall and

936
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 2: then just sits there, and I'm like, I want a

937
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: whole movie.

938
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 1: About this, Okay, I never have noticed that before.

939
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 2: She is just like, I'm an extra, but I'm doing

940
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: the most and just wheels herself straight into a wall

941
00:48:59,560 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 2: and sit.

942
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: They're like, what are you gonna do about it?

943
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: Now? I'm in your frame, I'm in your shot. Incredible,

944
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: what's my motivation? I'm just gonna crash?

945
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: Right? Are we cool with that? It's good? How have

946
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: I never noticed that before?

947
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm gonna find that the timestamp for you just

948
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: to go back and rewatch it tonight.

949
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: It is so not good.

950
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 2: It just kills me every time. But yeah, it's a

951
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: great movie. It is like just fantastic young actors. And

952
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: again the protest, it's the prototype. It's the prototype for

953
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: most modern dance films.

954
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: Agreed, it's such a good choice. I'm so glad you

955
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: picked it. Thanks. All right, gorgeous, are you ready for

956
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: this shit? I'm ready. I'm ready to talk about this

957
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 1: so much so we are gonna wing it because, like

958
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 1: like we mentioned at the front of this podcast, we

959
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: prepared for the same film. But you know, what. I

960
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 1: have so much love for this movie that I can

961
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: probably do it off the top of my head. We

962
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: shall see. So my movie this week for the theme

963
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 1: of dance Conservatory Films is a little movie from two

964
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: thousand and six. It's called Step Up, directed by Anne Fletcher.

965
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: Two thirty tomorrow, Bring Tights Tights What. As I mentioned previously,

966
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: I love dance. I fucking love dance. I love films

967
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: about dance. I love seeing dance battles. I love seeing

968
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 1: dance dramas. And Step Up is like a great entry

969
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: in like the dance drama, like Fame. It's like it

970
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: has its moments. I mean, it's not quite as dark

971
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: as Fame, but it is like there's a lot of

972
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: issues of like race and class and privilege and this

973
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: stuff in Step Up as well. But at the same time,

974
00:50:54,920 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: Step Up is like a funny ass movie and I

975
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: appreciated on both levels, you know what I mean, where

976
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, like we are talking about something, but

977
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: it's also just pure fucking joy and I kind of

978
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 1: rude or die with the entire franchise. So, like I've

979
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 1: seen every Step Up movie in the movie theater when

980
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: it came, when it came out. Wow, actually maybe not four,

981
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: but I but I saw at least one, two, and

982
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 1: three in the movie theater the weekend that it came out.

983
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: There are four. Now I think there's actually more than four.

984
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: I think there's like five and like a couple of

985
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 1: TV things too. I know, they really milked the shit

986
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: out of this cow. But and then maybe like in

987
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: the dark of the night, I will tell you that

988
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 1: Step Up three D is my favorite. First of all,

989
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many reasons to like the three

990
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: D thing because it's in three D, like why does

991
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: this movie need to be in three D? But also

992
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: it's got like this element that I love, which is

993
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: the like we gotta save the center, got to save

994
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: the rec Center, and that's liked Step Up three D's

995
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: about it's got that woven into it. And I think progressively,

996
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: as the Step Up movies were happening, I would say

997
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,439
Speaker 1: there was more of a cultural interest in like dance

998
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: battle stuff, because I remember like America's Best Dance Crew

999
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: started coming on television, and you know, it just became

1000
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: like a thing where like people wanted to see like

1001
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: dance battles. Maybe that was the tone of the two thousands,

1002
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: amongst other things that we will get to later. But

1003
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: Step Up is a film that is essentially about a

1004
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: young white kid named Tyler Gage. You know, he's got

1005
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: kind of a rough life. He's kind of like a hoodlum.

1006
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: I guess you would say. He like hangs out with

1007
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: his two friends. It's like his best friend and his

1008
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: little brother, and they do a lot of like petty

1009
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: crime stuff, stealing cars, that kind of stuff. But he's

1010
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: also kind of like not in school, and he's a

1011
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 1: foster kid, so he's kind of got a lot going on.

1012
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: So the brief synopsis of the film is that he

1013
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: gets caught trashing the dance Conservatory, which I think is

1014
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 1: in Maryland in this film, it's like the Maryland School

1015
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: of the Arts or something, and he he gets busted

1016
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: trashing it one night because him and his friends break

1017
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 1: into it and trash the theater, which you know has

1018
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: a lot of racial implications and class applications because they're

1019
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: basically in there just being like what the fuck is this,

1020
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: Like we should trash this place because for rich kids

1021
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: or whatever. So as his community service, he is required

1022
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: to work in the school that he trashed, and so

1023
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: he's basically he has to be.

1024
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: A janitor in the school. Come on, I have so

1025
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: much to say about that, but keep going.

1026
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's sort of like I don't know

1027
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: if I've ever done community service, and the thing that

1028
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: I just cost, I mean, I just cost a school

1029
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: like tens of thousands of dollars presumably, and I'm like, oh, well,

1030
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm here working as gets to the scene of the crime.

1031
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 1: Let's do this scene of the crime, okay. So then

1032
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: what ends up happening as is he's doing his janitor business,

1033
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: he gets an offer to help like this senior dancer

1034
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: perform her senior piece because I guess her original partner

1035
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: broke his ankle or something or twisted his ankle, so

1036
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: he's like filling in for her. So it's the classic

1037
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: dirty dancing switcheroo where it's basically like, well, my partner

1038
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: is out of commission, so let me get this stranger

1039
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 1: to help me do this company and I only have

1040
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks to figure it out. Sight unseen,

1041
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, let's just let's just get this guy working

1042
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: for me.

1043
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: I mean, to be fair, she did see him dancing

1044
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 2: for five seconds in a parking lot yeah.

1045
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: There was a moment where she spied on him pop.

1046
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: It and lock in near a dumpster, which is very

1047
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 2: common common in belly Poplin.

1048
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 1: But also like, yeah, just the fact that she's like, huh,

1049
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: maybe I will get this criminal janitor to attend the

1050
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 1: school regularly and be my partner for the most important

1051
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: moment of my life.

1052
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: Also, this is not explicit, but does he Okay, this

1053
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: is not explicit, so I really need to know the

1054
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 2: answer in this movie, does his community service go from

1055
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: being a janitor to being her dance partner?

1056
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: Is that what's happenings? That happens? They made a real

1057
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: quick transition, and there was really like So I will

1058
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 1: talk about Rachel Griffiths in a second, because she plays

1059
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: the dean of this performance arts school that Tyler and

1060
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 1: Nora perform, and you know, she's like total This is

1061
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: another trope that I love about dance films is the

1062
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: like hoity toity dance dean, you know, like just the

1063
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: head of the school that's a real press wearing a

1064
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: lot of like Shaw's and apps and shit, and she's

1065
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: just sort of like, hm, hm, well, you must perform

1066
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: at the top level at this school. You will not

1067
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: work harder than you've ever worked before, because we require

1068
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 1: that from our students. Fame has one of those too.

1069
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: I didn't mention it. She strives a girl to near suicide, right,

1070
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: It's like these hard ass lithe white women who are

1071
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: basically like, I will fuck you up because it's tradition,

1072
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: roll up.

1073
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 2: The sleeves of this jg'll sweater and fucking knock you

1074
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: out exactly.

1075
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: So somehow, at some point she's like whether or not

1076
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: this is even a legal thing, Like he's not even

1077
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: allowed to like participate in the activities of the school.

1078
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: She's just like, well, it's up to you. Like she

1079
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: leaves it to Nora basically, which I think is asinine,

1080
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: but whatever.

1081
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: Also, like, how are you gonna let your fucking senior

1082
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 2: student star dancer just possibly crash and burn that hard?

1083
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 1: She's just like, oh whatever, And I'm like, it's not

1084
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: up to you. A goddamn doll here, I know, this

1085
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: guy just completely trashed the school beyond repair to the

1086
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: point where we're not even allowed to get a scholarship

1087
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: in this piece because that's how much damage that he did.

1088
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: But we're just gonna let him. We're not gonna question it.

1089
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 1: We're just gonna let him participate in the recital so

1090
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: that people can graduate. I mean, it's so insane. So

1091
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: from that point, yeah, you basically have a fish out

1092
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: of water. I have to say, I know that I've

1093
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: spent a few minutes talking and haven't even mentioned, you know,

1094
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 1: the piece to resistance, which is that this was the

1095
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 1: movie that made Channing Tatum America sweetheart. And I think

1096
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: he had been in like a couple of movies before this,

1097
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: but like, quite honestly, everybody remembers Channing Tatum from Step

1098
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: Up and probably Magic Mike at this point, right, both

1099
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: dance movies, both showing off his physical, physical prowess, his

1100
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: dance skills. Now, I gotta tell you, take it, take it,

1101
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: Take it to everybody. We got to talk a little

1102
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: bit about Channing Tatum because I love Channing Tatum. If

1103
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: you follow me on Twitter, you will see that my

1104
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 1: Twitter avatar is a picture of me with a cardboard

1105
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: cutout of Channing Tatum.

1106
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: That is why I cannot believe you didn't think you

1107
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: picked this movie.

1108
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 1: How the fuck did that happen? Honestly, But you know what,

1109
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: I think it was just because it was too powerful

1110
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: of the subjects maybe, but I love Channing Tatum like

1111
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: I love him, love him, love him. He's real handsy.

1112
00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,919
Speaker 1: He does a lot of there's a lot of hand work.

1113
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: If you noticed that in like step up, He's he's

1114
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: always doing the hand waves. It's like the old pamalav commercial. Yeah,

1115
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: you're soaking in it, literally like in a dance move. Yeah, totally.

1116
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: He So he does a lot of handwork, and I'm

1117
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:22,280
Speaker 1: just sort of like, yo, like he is a king,

1118
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: Like I just love him. And also just the idea

1119
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: that he's just like this guy that made this transition

1120
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: from being like he could have been like a pretty

1121
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: corny dude. Yeah, but he somehow won us all over

1122
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: and he's now like become a legit actor. Likes it.

1123
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: Also has like kind of comedy chops, which I think

1124
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 1: is a surprise, and he was like in a Cohen

1125
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: Brothers movie. I mean, fucking man, what can he do?

1126
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: He is.

1127
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 2: I get such strong vibes from him that he is

1128
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: the friend of the older brother who's nice to you. Yes,

1129
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,160
Speaker 2: like he's your older brother's friend, but he's like, oh,

1130
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: what a book are you reading?

1131
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: And he's not asking so we can kick it out

1132
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: of your hand. Yeah, let me just tell you, like

1133
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 1: he was probably he was probably called Chan. It's like

1134
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: Yo Chan's coming over. He wears the same pair of

1135
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: jinkos every day, and he like gets a ride from

1136
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: the older brother to school and then like after school

1137
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 1: they just kind of sit around and like probably smoke weed.

1138
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: He's that guy, like the older older brother's friend name Chan.

1139
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 1: He's he's polite to parents, but.

1140
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 2: Just enough to get like some free meals like that,

1141
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: just enough so that they don't mind having him around.

1142
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: It's like he definitely worked with you at Taco Bill

1143
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: and you guys would have to close the restaurant together.

1144
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 1: And he was he always had like grease on the

1145
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 1: bottom edge of his jinkos, like just and more like

1146
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: airwalk sneakers and shit. Like he's he's like an eternal

1147
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: skater dude, you know what I mean from Florida. He's

1148
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: got a good vibe. He's got a good vibe. I

1149
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: love him, love him, love him, love him. So anyway,

1150
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: this so this was the this was the beginning of

1151
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: Channing Tatum as we know him, And it was actually

1152
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: the movie that he met his wife now ex wife,

1153
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: Jenna Zwan and she plays Nora and they kind of

1154
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: met on the movie, and you know, they're both like

1155
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 1: professional dancers. Like he First of all, if you look

1156
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 1: back in Channing Tatum's career before Step Up, you'll be like, oh,

1157
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: he was in like all these rap videos, Like he

1158
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: was in a Chamellionaire video. I'm like, God bless him.

1159
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: And then like she was like a backup dancer for

1160
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: like Janet Jackson and stuff. So they both have like real,

1161
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: real dancing shops and they're great. Obviously, you have the

1162
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: dynamic where she is the classically trained, you know, beautiful

1163
01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: rich girl and he's you know, not the bad kid.

1164
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's the Johnny Castle or whatever. So yeah,

1165
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: the film is essentially about the build up to her

1166
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: senior piece, and there's a lot of stuff tucked into

1167
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: the film. There's like there's a drive by shooting that

1168
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: happens at one point, abrupt and abrupt, and you could

1169
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: really see Channing Tatum's acting. I mean he has the like.

1170
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: Call mad one run like it's a real saving Private

1171
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:34,680
Speaker 2: Ryan moment.

1172
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 1: Ah, he was going for the egot and that one.

1173
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: Let's let's just say, but there's and then there's just

1174
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: like all these other components of the film. So, like Fame,

1175
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: you have people doing stretches in the hallway, people performing

1176
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: with like trombones and tuba while people are like dancing by.

1177
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: You know, you have the two friends that are like

1178
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: a part of their crew, one of whom is Mario.

1179
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember Mario. Let me love

1180
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: you Mario. He looks like a young Chris Rock, like

1181
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: Chris Rock in this movie. Yeah, and then there's all

1182
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: this like tension between Noura's like boyfriend at the time,

1183
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: Like when she's you know, first meeting the Tyler character.

1184
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: He's like, as you can imagine, just kind of an asshole,

1185
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: and he plays the Baxter and eventually it's like goodbye, hello.

1186
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 1: Why would we even just go fall off the doc?

1187
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: You could just step step up away, don't step up,

1188
01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:57,479
Speaker 1: step out, step out. That boyfriend was triggering, I would say, triggering. Look,

1189
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: that's because this is another thing I want to talk

1190
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: about when we talk about step Up. This movie was

1191
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: made in two thousand and six. Now, two thousand and six,

1192
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: I was in my mid twenties. I just started my job. No.

1193
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: Two thousand and six. I had been in my job

1194
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Culturally, however, my god, we

1195
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 1: were in a bad spot. And I know that hindsight

1196
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: is twenty twenty or whatever, but like even at the time,

1197
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: I was like, what is up with like these clothes,

1198
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,000
Speaker 1: what is up with Like like it was a real

1199
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 1: low point for feminism, Like it was like, yeah, talk

1200
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,800
Speaker 1: about that in the culture. I feel like there was

1201
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of like just weird stuff

1202
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: going on. There was the clothes. Now when I washed

1203
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,840
Speaker 1: step up, I was basically like, oh, my god, we

1204
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: are sitting in a time capsule of fashion, and that

1205
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,920
Speaker 1: fashion included like if you didn't have a long torso

1206
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: in two thousand and six, you were fucked because the

1207
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: only shit, the only shit that girls were wearing at

1208
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: that time were basic like tiny ass tank tops that

1209
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 1: covered neither arms nor mid riff. Like it was all

1210
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: very slinky. Every shirt was a going out shirt, yeah,

1211
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: going out top, and then the pants were usually pretty

1212
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:20,520
Speaker 1: baggy and low low rise was never able to do

1213
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: a low rise like ever in my life, Like in

1214
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: my life was not a low rise gene person and

1215
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: just like sort of like the culture was a lot

1216
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: of like bat like to me, this is just my opinion, crude, sex, humor,

1217
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: Stacy's Mom, American Pie movies just a lot, and like

1218
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: the songs were like extra horny, and like all the

1219
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: women who were performing songs were like, you know, trying

1220
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 1: to be like young and sexy and shit. And I mean,

1221
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 1: I it could be an age thing because you know,

1222
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm a gen xer and I when I grew up,

1223
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: like Kim Deal was basically a sex symbol. So I'm

1224
01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: basically like, Okay, I don't know what it's like to

1225
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: have like Christina Aguilera be my Kim Deal. But however,

1226
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: in my mind, I was going, wow, like this movie

1227
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: takes you back those tiny tiny tops, tiny.

1228
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: Low cut jeans that are also bootcut. I mean, could

1229
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 2: we pile on more tragedy here?

1230
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: Man? You know? And every time I'm like on the internet,

1231
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I always feel like there's somebody like trying

1232
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: to send me an article that's like yo, low rise

1233
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 1: bootcut jeans are coming back, and I'm just like instantly delete.

1234
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 2: In this household, they're not somebody trying to bring back

1235
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: that that shoe.

1236
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 1: You remember that shoe.

1237
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 2: It was like a platform black sandal with a big, wide,

1238
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 2: stretchy strap.

1239
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: Over the top the Seve Madden shoes.

1240
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm like those you step in those in

1241
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: your ankles are broken and we are not bringing them back.

1242
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: We are not doing this again.

1243
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: Like that is my outlook towards all fashion right now,

1244
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that again.

1245
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: Well, like I said, I'm freely admitting the fact that

1246
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:02,960
Speaker 1: I'm old, and I'm just sort of like, yeah, I

1247
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 1: don't know anymore like beyond you know, my specific era

1248
01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: for like high school, Like I don't know what y'all

1249
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: want to do, Like y'all figure it out. Y'all figure

1250
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: out this bando top situation with like the weird tie

1251
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 1: straps on the back. I'm like, dude, nobody was wearing clothes.

1252
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: But the funny thing is the cut was so weird

1253
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:30,200
Speaker 1: where it was like big pants, big pants, but like

1254
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: from basically the pubic bone up there was nothing going

1255
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: on there.

1256
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: There was a dance scene in this movie in school.

1257
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 2: They're in school and Jennet Dewan is wearing a top.

1258
01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 2: She's wearing like a sweater over a bra, like this

1259
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 2: little crop top sweater.

1260
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: Her tit is out, it's out. It's just like that

1261
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: top is not working. If you can't keep her tits in,

1262
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 1: And I mean maybe it's that I just never had

1263
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: it like that. So I'm like, all right, I mean,

1264
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 1: but like, like this movie's PG.

1265
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it doesn't even have to be whether it's

1266
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:05,840
Speaker 2: offensive or not.

1267
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: It's just like that shirt doesn't work.

1268
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 2: It doesn't do the job of a shirt if it

1269
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 2: can't keep your body parts wrapped up.

1270
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so clearly from a different generation where we

1271
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:18,320
Speaker 1: just covered our entire bodies in a sack and a

1272
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: flower sack.

1273
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 2: There is a dance scene in this movie, though, that

1274
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: is kind of like from the minute it started, I

1275
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: wanted to dance off, Like I just saw them moving

1276
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 2: and I'm like, somebody's got to give me a dance off.

1277
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 2: And there's a little bit of that in the club scene.

1278
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: But you look closely, there is a man dancing in

1279
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,840
Speaker 2: a cardigan in that scene, and I'm like, tell me

1280
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 2: more about this dude shows up to the club and

1281
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 2: like a button up shirt and a grandpa cardigan.

1282
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that dance scene cracks me the fuck up

1283
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: because it's that thing we're like, and this happened in

1284
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: Fame too, where like people break out into a spontaneous dance. However,

1285
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: the spontaneous dance is completely choreographed to where we're just

1286
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 1: assuming that when people just show up to the club,

1287
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: everyone knows their spot right. It's like, here's your mark,

1288
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: Like we're doing a spontaneous fucking dance to this band

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Speaker 1: and like we all know exactly how to move together

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Speaker 1: in the way. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What I love about that scene in particular because this

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Speaker 2: movie I've never seen it.

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Speaker 1: It is so funny.

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Speaker 2: There's a scene where Channing Tatum Tyler Gage shows up

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Speaker 2: and he doesn't know the moves, but they don't hide it,

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Speaker 2: so he's like at a sink at a step There's

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Speaker 2: a scene there's a part where they like put their

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Speaker 2: fists in the air and he does it too late,

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Speaker 2: and it's just, yeah, it's really it's really cute.

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Speaker 1: That just goes to show you that's the range of

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Speaker 1: a boy right there. That's the range baby, Like, I

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Speaker 1: honestly like it really is. Step Up. The first one

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01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: is truly a showcase of Channing Tatum, Like it's just

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01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 1: basically like, here's the dude that we want to value.

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: With the part at the end of when she's doing

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Speaker 1: her final piece where he magically dances into a shirt.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, here's all you need to know

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01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 1: about this fucking king of all men? I mean, he

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: like where it was the Oscar for this? How did

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Speaker 1: he dance into a shirt and hat? Like, I'm stunned

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Speaker 1: by that. He danced into an outfit?

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Speaker 2: How do you bring that out at the end of

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01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: a movie and not I imagine seeing this in the theater.

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Speaker 2: I would have I would have lost my mind. I

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01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: would have stood up, lost my mind. When I went

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01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:34,760
Speaker 2: to see Magic Mike Too with my friend Maggie.

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Speaker 1: In New York.

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Speaker 2: When I tell you that Channing Tatum brings a level

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01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: of excitement out of people that I've never seen, there

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Speaker 2: was a woman, I mean people were cheering throughout from

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01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 2: from top to bottom. There was a woman who got

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Speaker 2: so excited she stood up and threw a kitchen sponge

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Speaker 2: at the screen.

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Speaker 1: Like people were popping off in theater.

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Speaker 2: They loved everything he every When the Pony song came

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01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 2: on and he was doing that.

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Speaker 1: Dance, a woman threw a sponge at the screen. I'm

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: telling you, I that is the shit we need right now.

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01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:20,760
Speaker 1: We need another Channing Tatum dance film asap, because shit

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01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 1: is pure joy. Like, you're so right about the Magic

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01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 1: Mic movies. I mean, just as an aside, they are

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Speaker 1: the most joyful, wonderful, especially the second one, because it

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01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: really like doubled down on the joy of the first one,

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01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 1: where you're like, like the scene where he does the

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01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,840
Speaker 1: death drop in like the strip club or whatever. I'm

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01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,960
Speaker 1: just like, I have that on my fucking phone. I

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01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 1: taped it off the TV and I just play it

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01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: once in a while to feel great. Just a smile,

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01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: just a smile. And I was just sort of like,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing about Channing Tatum, And this is why

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01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: this movie I think is so memorable. This is the

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,839
Speaker 1: reason why I'm talking about it right now, is because

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01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: he's just like he's just kind of like this good

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01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: guy dancing for us, doing the tricks, doing the dancing

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: and the shirt, making us throw sponges. It's great and

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01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: we need that as a society right now. We like

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Speaker 1: I actually don't know if he's been in a movie recently,

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01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 1: but if he wanted to come and make Step Up

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01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: seventeen right now, I would be in fucking I'm like,

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Speaker 1: covid be damned. I will attend that Superspier event just

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01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: to see it.

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01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 2: This is how America heals somebody, Channing Tatum on the

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01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: zoom right now. And he also, wasn't he the one

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01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 2: who wrote that when the Sony emails leaked? Didn't he

1355
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,639
Speaker 2: have a book email that was just like seventy nine

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Speaker 2: lines of haha.

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Speaker 1: I mean, quite honestly, everything I hear about it makes

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01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: me love him more and more, and it's I'm sure

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: it's not perfect, but I just gotta say, like, as

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01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: a as a person, as a famous person, I do

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01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: not stand often, but when I do, my god, he's

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01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: such a great, great, great dude. We all need you

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Speaker 1: right now, Channing, I don't know what you're doing. Don't

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01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: run front it, don't please do not just give us

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01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 1: another dance movie. But I need I need some hands.

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01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: I need some poppin'. I need some like sliding across

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01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: a bench at a workshop, like whatever you got, I

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01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 1: got it. I need it. We all need it. And

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, when it comes down

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Speaker 1: to step Up as a dance conservatory movie, literally, why

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01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,519
Speaker 1: the fuck would you not want to go to a

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01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 1: dance conservatory after this movie? You're like, man, this is

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01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: the way it is, like janitors become stars and people

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01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: are performing perfect choreographed numbers as final projects, and it

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01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: just seems like a blast. Sign me up, sign I

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,599
Speaker 1: promise not to do the audition like the woman from

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: Fame and go out like cussing and hitting, but I

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: would love to try.

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 2: I feel like the way the world is now, just

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 2: try to apply to a dance conservatory program in high

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01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: school where they gonna do everyone zooming at home. Anyway

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01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 2: you can dance.

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01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: I don't have to know forties just to see what happens.

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01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: Just do the shoot dance and then you know, you know,

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01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: shoot an arrow and if it goes real high, then

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01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: For you right completely. This was a great pick. This

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01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 2: is a great pick, and I really really liked this movie.

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01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: It was so funny, so funny, and a time where

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01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:39,439
Speaker 1: you know, maybe we don't need everything to be so serious.

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01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 1: Let's let's have America Sweetheart coming entertain us, dance us

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01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: into the night, the fucking kitchen sponge. It's real. Oh

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: my god, I don't even know what to say. I

1394
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 1: feel like I just expelled all my energy on talking

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01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,320
Speaker 1: about how I loved you, Dictatum. That was great. Next

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Speaker 1: week the films are reality Bites from nineteen ninety four

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01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: and the way we were from nineteen seventy three. Oh

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01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: guess that theme? What could it be? Now, Daniell, I've

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Speaker 1: had so much fun with you on this episode. This

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01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: was clever friends. I know. My only regret is that

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01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: we did not go to the same dance conservatory school

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01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: you but I wanted to get out first week. Yeah,

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01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: we would have definitely been kicked out. But I will

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01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: say this, if for some reason you listener went to

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01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: a dance conservatory. Oh and you want to tell us

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 1: about it?

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Speaker 2: What's the email? I saw what you did pod at Gmail.

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01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 2: You can post about it on Instagram. Send us your

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01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 2: dance conservatory photos at on Twitter and Instagram both at

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Speaker 2: I saw pod.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're in a character shoe, you can even

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01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: slide in my DMS, like I want to see the

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01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 1: old school character shoe, like the nude heel.

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Speaker 2: Bring it that heel was distracting. Dancing in the heel

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 2: like that was distracting throughout you.

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01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,120
Speaker 1: We don't like heils. I can't do it with the eels.

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Speaker 2: I'm much.

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01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,440
Speaker 1: I know if she's tiny, but that was distracted.

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01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 2: If you know, if you were in any of the

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Speaker 2: step up movies. Please contact Milly, please immediately give her

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Speaker 2: all the dirt, all the backstage everything.

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Speaker 1: Would love to hear it. Yes, as you know, and

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Speaker 1: you know. If you're on Twitter, we're at I saw Pod.

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01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:30,600
Speaker 1: If you're on Instagram, we're on I saw Pod and

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Speaker 1: we will see you next week, See you next week. Bye.

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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Our producer is

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Speaker 2: Lauren Elizabeth Brown. Our engineers Analise Nelson. Our social media

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Speaker 2: assistant is Taren Matza. Our theme songs by Tom bry Fogel,

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01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are Georgia Hartstar,

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