Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys apt Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is time for another edition
Speaker 1: of mix Shots inside the SWBC podcast studio here at
Speaker 1: the Beautiful Star in Fresco. And it's not eleven thirty
Speaker 1: on a Thursday. You know it's not Bill Jones with
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola here in the SWBC podcast studio and Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: who is here too, he's not in the studio. I
Speaker 1: wonder if he's out on the practice field trying a
Speaker 1: comeback with the Cowboys as they are out on the
Speaker 1: practice field as we speak. I am actually doing that, Bill,
Speaker 1: because I am here right now at the two Lane
Speaker 1: Help System Professional Athlete care team building. Believe it or not,
Speaker 1: I am going for a comeback. At sixty two years old,
Speaker 1: I have shrunk a half an inch and lost about
Speaker 1: ten pounds for my playing days. So I'm ready. I'm ready.
Speaker 1: So they're assessing you, and you're being assessed. Well, I
Speaker 1: am being assessed out of the ass okay, and and
Speaker 1: for that big comeback, and so the Cowboys could use
Speaker 1: you're coming back as a safety or a cornerback. Well,
Speaker 1: since my boy Marquis Bell is doing so damn well,
Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna have to come back at the
Speaker 1: cornerback because he has the safety position locked down. According
Speaker 1: to Mickey Stack, Noah, that's right, And I think that
Speaker 1: we'll be interested to see how they use them again
Speaker 1: this tomorrow when we actually get to watch practice. Yes,
Speaker 1: last week it was a Wednesday open practice for the media.
Speaker 1: This week it's a Thursday open practice for the media,
Speaker 1: which is why we are doing mix shots on Wednesday
Speaker 1: at one pm instead of Thursday at eleven thirty. Ay.
Speaker 1: And as we go forward, just be very flexible because
Speaker 1: next week's schedule is the same there it's open on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and then it's Minicamp week the week after that, and
Speaker 1: then it's open Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. So we got some
Speaker 1: forward planning to do when we're gonna continue doing mix
Speaker 1: shots and before we take our summer break, a tractor that.
Speaker 1: So everybody had a good Memorial Day weekend, Yes, I
Speaker 1: know I did. I actually went to the Rangers game
Speaker 1: when they played Tampa Bay, all right, and you saw
Speaker 1: them when I saw them win. I saw Eli I
Speaker 1: believe his name, and robbed I mean just as we
Speaker 1: sat down, he robbed Joy. Okay, I think it was
Speaker 1: a three run homer in the first end. If that
Speaker 1: thing goes over the wall and doesn't come back, we're
Speaker 1: looking at the totally different ball game. Guys. That's right,
Speaker 1: Eli of white center fielder out of Clemson University who's
Speaker 1: got a vertical that matches about Byron Jones's vertical apparently,
Speaker 1: or could probably broad jump like Byron Jones. That I mean,
Speaker 1: he didn't get up six feet let's say, like his
Speaker 1: his his belt line was over the wall. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that I thought his belt line was on on like
Speaker 1: on top of the cushion that was at the top
Speaker 1: of the wall. So yeah, he called it. How you
Speaker 1: wanted that was? That was pretty impressed. Yep. And I
Speaker 1: talked to him yesterday. He said in college at Clemson,
Speaker 1: he was measured it with a thirty seven vertical, but
Speaker 1: he was like that he thinks he estimates he's probably
Speaker 1: at a forty vertical. Now, you know what the amazing
Speaker 1: thing is about this team being five hundred. Right now
Speaker 1: is Martin Perez is the leading pitcher in the major leagues?
Speaker 1: Right right? He had seven more shutout innings last night.
Speaker 1: It's a veteran lefty who was with the Red Sox
Speaker 1: last year. As we are talking Rangers there, Well, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you a funny story. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: if it's Cowboys or Rangers. Okay, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: bring it back to Cowboy. No, no, I'm now let's
Speaker 1: go to stay with Martin Perez. Um. You know, before
Speaker 1: he left, Before he left the Rangers, like his last year,
Speaker 1: they didn't resign him, and every time he pitched, it
Speaker 1: was just a struggle. And I was sitting there, going,
Speaker 1: what are they doing with this guy? Right? And a
Speaker 1: friend of mine, his mother was upper eighties, almost ninety,
Speaker 1: and she watched that's what his fastball was too back then.
Speaker 1: And did she watch which isn't good enough in the
Speaker 1: big leagues anymore. She watched baseball every night, he told me,
Speaker 1: every night. And one day towards towards the ends of
Speaker 1: the season, she calls him and goes, why are they
Speaker 1: starting Martin Perez? And I said, I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I said the same thing, right, and now he's turned
Speaker 1: his career around this year. Yes, that's right, and uh
Speaker 1: so's he would be your leading candidate to be the
Speaker 1: American League starting pitcher in the All Star Game right now. Unbelievable,
Speaker 1: and it is Everson. He's got the lowest urn run
Speaker 1: average in all of baseball right now, one sixty and
Speaker 1: he got hit actually one forty two. Now. He got
Speaker 1: hit with a ninety seven mile hour line drive last
Speaker 1: night and then pitched better and they didn't get another
Speaker 1: hit off from the rest of the Cowboys have scouts
Speaker 1: out there right now to figure out if this can
Speaker 1: convert to the football field. Maybe he can be a
Speaker 1: backup murder. There you go, there you go. Well, let
Speaker 1: before we go to get off the ranger thing. I
Speaker 1: have an entirely new love for baseball fans because as
Speaker 1: we came to the game, you know, you want to
Speaker 1: go to your seat, and after while you're like, you
Speaker 1: know what, all these open seats, I'm gonna sit anywhere there,
Speaker 1: and I want to sit, so I wanted. I wasn't
Speaker 1: even sure if I was gonna write sections. So I
Speaker 1: asked these guys of above me, some young cool white guys. Man,
Speaker 1: they were just killing I said, hey, man, is this
Speaker 1: sectually one thirty two? And they looked at me with
Speaker 1: these beards like beard was in their eyes. You're like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, dude. We just moved out, so nobody
Speaker 1: knows what they're sitting. But they started something. So we
Speaker 1: started harassing the middle of the center fielder for Tampa
Speaker 1: because he would never tell us the ball in our
Speaker 1: section after warm ups. You know, they throw the ball
Speaker 1: back and forth to each other between each inning. You know,
Speaker 1: they'll take a ball and throw it in the stands
Speaker 1: for a kid with the with the glove. Right, So
Speaker 1: there's Everson with his glove and won't throw you the
Speaker 1: ball help his glove. But the kid next to me
Speaker 1: had a glove and I was trying to help him
Speaker 1: out of His name was Kayden, So kay I just
Speaker 1: met the kids he's gotten sitting there with a glove.
Speaker 1: We strike up a conversation and every time the guys
Speaker 1: seemed to look at us and look us off and
Speaker 1: throw it another way. So all those those those beer
Speaker 1: field guys behind us, they would I think his name
Speaker 1: was Phillips by kurse Phillips out the entire game being
Speaker 1: entired that you suck, you suck. I just I had
Speaker 1: so much fun, man, I joined in with the guys
Speaker 1: I met, you did I did seeing in in football,
Speaker 1: you can't harass the playhers, right, Oh. In baseball, it's
Speaker 1: a whole different ball game. Ball a little bit different.
Speaker 1: They're used to it. They're used to it in Tampa
Speaker 1: or in Saint Pete and that stadium where they only
Speaker 1: get like four or five thousand people though, so you
Speaker 1: can hear every word. Try And Rangers played in Oakland
Speaker 1: this week last Friday night. Their attendance was thirty five hundred.
Speaker 1: I covered a game. I didn't cover a game. I
Speaker 1: watched the game in Kansas City when I was in
Speaker 1: college at the old Stadiums Stadium and it was the
Speaker 1: last year of the stadium before they built the new place.
Speaker 1: And it was a night game, and I thought I
Speaker 1: was in one of those minor league movie films because
Speaker 1: I could hear the umpire Calleague balls up. It was
Speaker 1: so desolate in there, right, it was like watching he
Speaker 1: probably could too. But you can't harass football players who
Speaker 1: are by the way out on the field today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and by the way, the Rangers back at five hundred
Speaker 1: on the season, yes, twenty four and twenty four And
Speaker 1: did you know this? Did you know this? With the
Speaker 1: Mavericks advancing to the Western Conference Finals this year, the
Speaker 1: Stars made the playoffs first round exit. Cowboys made the playoffs.
Speaker 1: This is the first time since two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: the calendar year two thousand and seven, that the Cowboys, Stars,
Speaker 1: and Mavericks have made the playoffs in the same year.
Speaker 1: And we're counting this, Oh, you're counting the boys. The
Speaker 1: playoff games are being played in this calendar year, this
Speaker 1: first time in fifteen years, and it's never happened before
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys, Mavericks, Stars and Rangers have been in
Speaker 1: the playoffs in the same year. Who's caused that to happen? Like,
Speaker 1: who didn't hold up there under the bargain? Well, it's
Speaker 1: just this very year to year the Rangers have been
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you know. But those years the maybe
Speaker 1: the Stars or the Mavericks didn't make it or the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys didn't in two thousand and t so they
Speaker 1: own that. And then you go back ninety six, ninety eight,
Speaker 1: and ninety nine, the Rangers are in the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: the Mavericks were down before they got Dirk. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of trivia there. I like that absolutely,
Speaker 1: So maybe this will be the year there you go,
Speaker 1: all right, And just so you guys know, I've got
Speaker 1: to say I'm here. I'm here in New Orleans doing
Speaker 1: this thing right, getting this assessment. And uh. I have
Speaker 1: been on the phone with Uncle Lonzo and Aunt hunt Nikki.
Speaker 1: These are that's and uncle of Marquis Bell. Oh really,
Speaker 1: I have problem with film that I would take care
Speaker 1: of their little nephews. I've talked to everybody but Marquise. Okay, Oh,
Speaker 1: I've talked to the entire family, and boy, they are
Speaker 1: so proud of him. I have found out so much
Speaker 1: about this young man, even more than Usepagnolah. So oh no, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to brief you. You know when you
Speaker 1: talk about high characters, and you know everybody's gonna say
Speaker 1: that about their own kid, but I truly believe it
Speaker 1: with this young man. They call him a high character
Speaker 1: kid as fact, and you know how much we like
Speaker 1: that bill high character individual. They talked about his athleticism.
Speaker 1: He played every sport guy, he played every sports up
Speaker 1: for hockey, all right, And so this guy is extremely athletic.
Speaker 1: And I asked his uncle as to listen, can he
Speaker 1: go as a safety? Does he have the range to
Speaker 1: go to the ball and gather himself to go up
Speaker 1: and get it as he arrived at that point, and
Speaker 1: he said absolutely absolutely. So as far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 1: if he can do that, we got all the linebackers.
Speaker 1: We need spags, we need safeties that can make play.
Speaker 1: I think if I remember correctly for track, I think
Speaker 1: he was like a hydra him for two Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what he was. He was a high jumper and
Speaker 1: a long jumper, and that just lets you know that
Speaker 1: he has the hops and he has the footwork to
Speaker 1: make those plays on deep balls. And you know me,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking forward to. So when I finally
Speaker 1: started working with this kid, or at least just talking
Speaker 1: to him and putting putting a bug in his ear,
Speaker 1: just tell them to stay the same. Right now, guys,
Speaker 1: he's the press, the candidate for a surprise to make
Speaker 1: this team and to make an impact. I've already pointed
Speaker 1: that out. So you're you're late down that one, Well,
Speaker 1: what you need to do is come out here for
Speaker 1: the mini camp practices, so you can go in and
Speaker 1: introduce yourself. I am definitely gonna do that because he
Speaker 1: won't answer my phone calls. Well, here's what we need
Speaker 1: to do, Mickey, you this is your assignment sometimes show. Now.
Speaker 1: We're in the month of June. Okay, training camp starts
Speaker 1: next month, so time is running short here. But you've
Speaker 1: got OTAs this week, OTAs next week, miniicamp the following week,
Speaker 1: whenever we schedule the mix shots for maybe the following
Speaker 1: week maybe I don't know if we're working into the
Speaker 1: schedule minicamp week or what. But when he's still on
Speaker 1: campus here, we need to have him in studio and
Speaker 1: tape mix shots with Everson here and having Marcus Bells
Speaker 1: show before we get the training before training. Kit's right,
Speaker 1: that's right, all right, I'm game for that, guys. I'm
Speaker 1: definitely ready. Sat. That's good stuff, good stuff, all right. Well,
Speaker 1: m So the Cowboys, Well, we'll see him practice again tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And from what I hear or what it looks like,
Speaker 1: is that at least James Washington might be out of
Speaker 1: his boot and be able to do some of the
Speaker 1: grass work. I mean, he's still rehabbing, probably but looks
Speaker 1: like he's progressing, looks like Jalen Tolbert is progressing. So
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position maybe by mini camp will look
Speaker 1: a little bit more normal than what we saw last
Speaker 1: week when it was Ceedee Lamb and Semi Fijoko and
Speaker 1: Noah Brown out there with the first team. That'll probably
Speaker 1: make everybody feel a little bit better about that wide
Speaker 1: receiver position, you know. And I think back to last
Speaker 1: week seeing Zeke out there. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: we talked about it, and if we have, just remind me,
Speaker 1: but boy, he's really scoutined out there. He looks like
Speaker 1: he's got his legs back under him, the way he
Speaker 1: looked in the first couple of games of the season
Speaker 1: when they did a little bit of running and some blocking.
Speaker 1: By the way, with the exception of the first game,
Speaker 1: because they basically gave up trying to run against Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay and ended up throwing for gosh, four hundreds, all
Speaker 1: I remember is Dak had more yards passing than Tom
Speaker 1: Brady did in that game. But if Zeke's got himself
Speaker 1: back after the PCL sprain, he could be in for
Speaker 1: something big this year, especially if if that they found
Speaker 1: a second tight end that can go out there and
Speaker 1: block when they go two tight ends. I looked it up.
Speaker 1: I think it was after our show last week, and
Speaker 1: if this was accurate, twenty five percent of their snaps
Speaker 1: were in two tight end, but they didn't really block
Speaker 1: that well when they were in two tights. So which
Speaker 1: guard do you think will be that? That's right, and
Speaker 1: that's what they ended up doing, right. They put Connor
Speaker 1: Connor mcgovernn out there basically as a guard or used
Speaker 1: the fullback instead. Now they've got a legitimate fullback on
Speaker 1: them and a legitimate guard who will also first round
Speaker 1: guard who will also work at tackle. Pick for the
Speaker 1: team guard. Yes, thank you. He will work at tackle also,
Speaker 1: by the way, because do you suspect he will work
Speaker 1: at tackle this week? I think I think there's a
Speaker 1: possibility he will do both. Okay, he will be out
Speaker 1: of starting guard for the season. Okay, I'm calling it
Speaker 1: right now, but he's got to earn it, which which
Speaker 1: frees up McGovern to be the starting second tight end.
Speaker 1: Second tight end unless Jake Ferguson is the real deal.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking if you drafted a tight end from Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: as much as they run the ball, they got better
Speaker 1: be able to block right, otherwise, otherwise he might not
Speaker 1: even been a fourth round pick. So this too tight
Speaker 1: end off and McCarthy loves tight ends. I mean as
Speaker 1: early as the third round, you know, he's pounding the
Speaker 1: table to get a tight end. And a bunch started
Speaker 1: going off the board at that point. So who are
Speaker 1: you considering the true fullback? Ryan Nall or Nick Rolston?
Speaker 1: What about Nick? And Cowboys had a true fullback on
Speaker 1: the didn't have him active enough. Yeah, at least the
Speaker 1: other guys got Nalls, got experience, right, we forgot that
Speaker 1: we actually had a fullback. That's right, Nick Ralston. You
Speaker 1: know you know how players advanced from their first year
Speaker 1: to their second, Well, then it's time. That's a big
Speaker 1: training camp battle, right, And that was a big training
Speaker 1: camp story, by the way, last summer for Bill. That's right.
Speaker 1: Training He found his mom and dad at training that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great human. You know how you know an investigative reporter,
Speaker 1: Bill is they were probably the only two people that
Speaker 1: had Ralston on seats in the crowd. That's right. Always
Speaker 1: for the underdog man, I try, especially if that underdog
Speaker 1: went to high school around here. Yeah, that's why I've
Speaker 1: always been an Everson Walls fan, going back to try.
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Speaker 1: a Wednesday afternoon. Cowboys have been on the practice field
Speaker 1: for another OTA session today close to the media. Mickey
Speaker 1: has his sources, however, and they will be open to
Speaker 1: the media tomorrow on Thursday. Everson Walls is in New
Speaker 1: Orleans joining us and Mickey the kicking situation with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys hires. How concerned are you with that? Well, hopefully
Speaker 1: we'll get to see Garabay do some kicking, because the
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent from Texas Tech, right, because most of
Speaker 1: the kicking that we've seen so far in the rookie
Speaker 1: mini camp and last week's OTA took place indoors, and
Speaker 1: so we really haven't seen him. But I'm told he's
Speaker 1: got a live leg, which is good. Right. Oh no, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 1: hopefully he's got two, because you did a plant leg
Speaker 1: as well as the kicking leg. Former former kicking coach
Speaker 1: Steve Hoffman. Uh instructed me to just listen to the ball,
Speaker 1: how it pops off a guy's foot, and if it
Speaker 1: makes that good sound, then the guy's got a live leg,
Speaker 1: like he can kick the ball. Now, it's got to
Speaker 1: be kind of like it. I kind of like to
Speaker 1: look at it with my eyes and see if it
Speaker 1: goes between the cold post. Now, you got to hear
Speaker 1: it right, It's got to have that. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: have that matter. It doesn't matter if it's twenty five
Speaker 1: yards or forty five yards. It needs to sound to
Speaker 1: say it sounds like a baseball scout. You can You
Speaker 1: don't even have to watch a guy in batting practice.
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is just listen and you can
Speaker 1: tell whether he can hit or not. You or the
Speaker 1: or the best uh college softball player from Oklahoma right
Speaker 1: now uh Al from Hawaii from Hawaii, Joscelyn Alo home
Speaker 1: run hitter, yes, and reading stories about him, reading stories
Speaker 1: about her. She's got some pop in her band, Yes,
Speaker 1: she does. The reason I brought up Kicker the Lions
Speaker 1: have released Aldric Rosas, So there you go. There's another
Speaker 1: kicker that you can bring in. I think he came
Speaker 1: through here once for a not I mean, I think
Speaker 1: like a tryout or something like that. Tho, well that's
Speaker 1: what and that's what's going to happen here now getting
Speaker 1: closer to the camp, the teams start shedding a veteran
Speaker 1: guy for a younger guy that might be looking good
Speaker 1: in these preseason workouts. So, and by the way, today
Speaker 1: is June first, first, So tomorrow June second, Leale collins
Speaker 1: uh salary cap hit and bass salary will hit the
Speaker 1: Cowboys cap. So what does that mean? So that means
Speaker 1: that his bass salary, which was off the top of
Speaker 1: my head, like ten ten million dollars, now they can
Speaker 1: use that money because they released him as a June
Speaker 1: one post June one release and then the dead money
Speaker 1: and I'm doing this off top of my head was
Speaker 1: like thirteen million. So five million this year and eight
Speaker 1: million next year. How much money is that free up?
Speaker 1: So we can go sign somebody a couple million dollars?
Speaker 1: All right, who do you want to go sign? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get it out there. Briona is rushing it the
Speaker 1: law because he wants a solution. That's right, Well, he
Speaker 1: certainly don't need if you save five five million dollars
Speaker 1: or so you don't need that on a kicker, by
Speaker 1: the way, because you've signed your draft class YEP, so
Speaker 1: you don't need Now did they finish did they get
Speaker 1: the who was not signed? I thought one guy virtually
Speaker 1: Ferguson maybe was there's your I don't know it did
Speaker 1: or not, there's your tight end. Yeah, he'll be signed.
Speaker 1: And as you're seeing around the league, guys are starting
Speaker 1: veteran guys without jobs, they're starting to find conscient and
Speaker 1: there could be some guy's release now, yes too. After
Speaker 1: June first, first right news around the league, Stefan too It,
Speaker 1: defensive lineman for the Pittsburgh Steelers, surprisingly announced his retirement
Speaker 1: moments ago. Oh so okay, and other news around the league.
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has reported to Cardinals OTAs yes, stay my
Speaker 1: beating heart. I was worried about that. Now, what about
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald? Has He reported He has not has not
Speaker 1: crossed the wire, as we said. So, so, Everson, I
Speaker 1: want you to interpret this forming all right? Uh? He said, Uh.
Speaker 1: The reason he hadn't been in OTA's um and he
Speaker 1: talked all about, you know, needing me beyond a team
Speaker 1: that wins or whatever. Well, the last three years, he's
Speaker 1: been paid sixty seven million dollars in cash, okay, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't have any more guaranteed money left in his contract,
Speaker 1: and he's got two more years on the contract he signed.
Speaker 1: His quote is it ain't about the money, but it's
Speaker 1: business at the end of the day. Now what does
Speaker 1: that mean? You know what that sounds like? Sound like
Speaker 1: with Latrell's pretty will. He's been making about like twenty
Speaker 1: five million dollars ago. Hey, man, I gotta be my family.
Speaker 1: I need a raid. Yeah, I gotta feed my family.
Speaker 1: I laugh when I read that it ain't about the money,
Speaker 1: but it's a business at the end of the day. So,
Speaker 1: which means it is about the money and he wants
Speaker 1: some guaranteed money going forward. Hey, I really can't talk
Speaker 1: much about I had some pretty hair brained schemes when
Speaker 1: I was trying to get my money from Gil. I recalled.
Speaker 1: I was nineteen eighty six, I retired, I was twenty
Speaker 1: six years old. I put in my retirement papers just
Speaker 1: because we were going through contract negotiations and I did
Speaker 1: not want to pay that thousand dollar fine per day
Speaker 1: when you're missed training camp back then, and so I
Speaker 1: you know, I told Drafting Stemps, you know, Gil's gonna
Speaker 1: be a smart ass. I can be a smart ass too,
Speaker 1: So you know, at that time, we didn't have free
Speaker 1: agency as a backup. There was no free agency, so
Speaker 1: the only thing I could do was just irritate the
Speaker 1: hell out of them and just retire until they actually
Speaker 1: came back to the table and starting negotiating. The other
Speaker 1: thing I saw where and I don't know this might
Speaker 1: be surprising or not. Dalton Scholtz with the ten point
Speaker 1: ninety three million dollars franchise tag that he will play for.
Speaker 1: He's got another month and a half to continue negotiating
Speaker 1: a long term deal if he wants. But his cap
Speaker 1: hit for this year ten point nine three million ties
Speaker 1: Mike Gasecki for the fourth highest paid tight end in
Speaker 1: the league, So he's not doing bad for himself, right,
Speaker 1: And when it comes to base salaries, then Schultz and
Speaker 1: Gisecki are tied for first for the highest base salaries
Speaker 1: of the tight ends in the league going into this
Speaker 1: year because the other guys signed long term deals and
Speaker 1: their cap hit is higher because of signing bonus pro
Speaker 1: rated over the life of the contract. So and you
Speaker 1: know this is this is his chance to cash in.
Speaker 1: There was a stat I read his one hundred and
Speaker 1: forty one catches over the last two years is worth
Speaker 1: most of all the tight ends and all the big
Speaker 1: names that you want to come up with. He was
Speaker 1: actually fourth, and he was six this past year, and
Speaker 1: six by the way over those two years in touchdowns
Speaker 1: with twelve, so he's kind of made a name for himself.
Speaker 1: He really has. I gotta say, guys, I'm pretty impressed
Speaker 1: with him. You know, at first we had jaw and
Speaker 1: making all these catches, and you know, he was a
Speaker 1: guy that we thought was the finesse tight end, but
Speaker 1: then Chult comes along and as far as blocking is concerned,
Speaker 1: not happy with the finesse part of it, but he
Speaker 1: has bailed us out many times. And he was integral
Speaker 1: to the offense when you thought thinking about the two
Speaker 1: men that they were running against this fag the whole time, right,
Speaker 1: That means our wide receivers having big time problems, and
Speaker 1: he was our outlet because Zeke acted like he's never
Speaker 1: seen a ball in the air before last year. But
Speaker 1: Schultz was ready and able to catch anything coming his way,
Speaker 1: and he feasted off of those opportunities that he had
Speaker 1: weekend and week out. I'm impressed with him. He deserves
Speaker 1: all the money that he gets. And when you start
Speaker 1: talking about some of the big tight ends in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and he's considered to be one of them, that's pretty
Speaker 1: good man. He's ain't good coming. And by the way
Speaker 1: that I said, he was sixth over the last two
Speaker 1: years with twelve touchdowns. There's three guys tied for third
Speaker 1: at thirteen. So he wasn't that far off to pace
Speaker 1: the leading touchdown tight ends over the last two years.
Speaker 1: Kelsey had twenty and uh Anderson, Mark Mark Andrews, Andrew
Speaker 1: Andrew from the Raves, Yeah, had from Oklahoma sixteen. There
Speaker 1: you go, So he wasn't He wasn't that far off
Speaker 1: the pace with all the other guys. All right, So
Speaker 1: how big of a priority is it for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to sign him to a long term deal right now? Well,
Speaker 1: if they're sold on him and they think he deserves
Speaker 1: the long term, are you sold on him three years?
Speaker 1: Maybe can we do three years? Because you know what,
Speaker 1: and here's would probably messed up the whole thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: The joco is that how I say Cleveland they signed
Speaker 1: him to a four year, fifty six point seven five
Speaker 1: million dollar deal this week. Uh so, uh my math
Speaker 1: on that is like averaging fourteen fourteen million. Twelve fourteen million, yeah, fourteen,
Speaker 1: thank you Bill. Uh And and but have you looked
Speaker 1: at the details? Yes? I did, okay. And it's essentially
Speaker 1: a three year, thirty nine point five million dollars deal,
Speaker 1: so thirteen thirteen a year, and they can get out
Speaker 1: of it a matter of fact in the first two years. Uh.
Speaker 1: The fully guaranteed at signing is twenty five million. So
Speaker 1: there's your market for Schultz right now, four years fifty
Speaker 1: seven million, and that's not going to happen here, I'll guarantee. Ukay, Hey,
Speaker 1: let me jays Maad, you're starting to maybe, mad man,
Speaker 1: what's happen you know you're always chop it down people's
Speaker 1: ability to make money. No, I'm looking at what happened
Speaker 1: to you. I am looking at the salary cap a
Speaker 1: company man for a way too long. I am looking
Speaker 1: at the cowboys salary cap much money? Now a kick
Speaker 1: it is. We can't sign a guard in the first round. No,
Speaker 1: you can't. He's not gonna get that much. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: have some optimism in yourself. Okay, you you you obviously
Speaker 1: need to take a lesson in salary cap management. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look as much money as Jerry spends, that's
Speaker 1: not about his money, it's about the Cowboys money. And
Speaker 1: that's what you got to keep an eye on when
Speaker 1: you're paying a quarterback who's going to average forty million
Speaker 1: a year against the cap. So are you if you
Speaker 1: don't sign him to a contract extenchion he plays on
Speaker 1: the tag this year, Now you go into next year's offseason,
Speaker 1: do you let him walk or do you tag him? Agin?
Speaker 1: And what would be more of ten? Yeah or basically eleven? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that basically, well it's twenty be around that fourteen
Speaker 1: million dollars ring exact for another year, right, And so
Speaker 1: it depends on how you structure the contract. Right. You
Speaker 1: can make it look good for the agent to say
Speaker 1: four years fifty six million, but it really isn't four
Speaker 1: years fifty six million when you look at the ut
Speaker 1: when you look at the inside of the contract. But
Speaker 1: that gets back to the priority during this draft was
Speaker 1: on that offensive staff, right, was to get a tight end,
Speaker 1: and they wound up not being able to get one
Speaker 1: of the top three rounds. And so now we'll see
Speaker 1: if Jake Ferguson becomes that tight end that you can
Speaker 1: depend on, isn't that where they got Schultz fourth round?
Speaker 1: That's exactly right, and um found Witten in the third
Speaker 1: third round. Um, James Hannah was what a sixth rounder,
Speaker 1: you know, and he put in a good number of years.
Speaker 1: Here was the first rounder? Yeah, um Um, San Diego State, Yeah, Escobar,
Speaker 1: Gavin Escobar was a second rounder. So you can miss
Speaker 1: on those guys. The best deal was Plan B free agent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: j no guy named Jay rob Awalt at the same
Speaker 1: time in Plan B free agency they took and then
Speaker 1: he got hurt, right, and they were they thought they
Speaker 1: had their two tight ends and they really only had one,
Speaker 1: which gave Alfredo Roberts an opportunity to be that second
Speaker 1: tight end if I remember correctly. Yeah. So so anyway,
Speaker 1: you know, it's you only have a certain number of
Speaker 1: draft picks, and um, you know, as much as it
Speaker 1: might have been a priority to get one of those,
Speaker 1: because this was a good year for tight ends in
Speaker 1: the draft. Yeah, I would have loved to have seen
Speaker 1: Jeremy rutgerd Ohio State, who went late third round to
Speaker 1: the Jets. Um. You know, once you got passed your
Speaker 1: first three picks, and you know, there was talk that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys might package a couple of those fits and
Speaker 1: move up and back into the third round. And that's
Speaker 1: but this is the reason why, because you of the
Speaker 1: contract status of Dalton Dalton Schultz and right he's about
Speaker 1: to become it is he? Is he a tight end
Speaker 1: who you can who can command the same kind of
Speaker 1: contract as the top tight ends in the league? You know?
Speaker 1: Is he a difference maker like that? And even after
Speaker 1: some of those top tight ends went off the board.
Speaker 1: You mentioned Rutgert, Uh, he was the thirty seventh pick
Speaker 1: in the third round. Uh, they kind of like that
Speaker 1: cade and it was the first pick of the of
Speaker 1: the fourth round, that type of a and so and
Speaker 1: which caused will McClay too pound his fifth on the
Speaker 1: table like they can frustration And that's like darn it. Right,
Speaker 1: So there's a couple that you could have. You would
Speaker 1: have had to have traded up into the third round,
Speaker 1: and the price to pay for that would have been
Speaker 1: probably your fourth and two fifths to get that high. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a long way to go. And even if
Speaker 1: you moved up a little bit, it would have cost
Speaker 1: you Daman Clark probably, Yeah, depending on half round the
Speaker 1: fifth which fifth round you could you know somebody would
Speaker 1: take right and let's just assumes let's assume it would
Speaker 1: be your first two fifth round picks. Well, you took
Speaker 1: Matt Will let's go with the first of those, and
Speaker 1: you took Duran Bland, the cornerback from Fresno State with
Speaker 1: the second of those. Yeah. So so would you be
Speaker 1: willing to give up Jake Ferguson a tied end, Matt
Speaker 1: Will Letska a tackle, and Duran Bland a cornerback to
Speaker 1: get Kado or Jeremy ruckerd That's a lot. So that's
Speaker 1: what you're looking at them. Yeah, absolutely so. So anyway,
Speaker 1: the development of those tight ends, it's going to be
Speaker 1: a key thing going forward. All Right, when we come
Speaker 1: back here, here's what I would like to get into
Speaker 1: a little bit. Let's look at the NFC East a
Speaker 1: little bit. I was talking with a friend in Philadelphia today,
Speaker 1: a friend, and he is convinced that the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: This is the year for the Eagles and that they
Speaker 1: are going to rule the NFC East. Let's explore that
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Speaker 1: you set for another day of reporting tomorrow. You'll be
Speaker 1: seeing all the reports after the practice is over of
Speaker 1: what happened out on the practice field. Because rules are rules,
Speaker 1: right makes right reporting while things are going on. No
Speaker 1: no texting, wild texting or tweeting when things are going on.
Speaker 1: So here it is. We're in the month of June. Now,
Speaker 1: training camp is going to start next month. Okay, the
Speaker 1: season will be here before you know it. My question
Speaker 1: to both of you, gentlemen, who's the team to beat
Speaker 1: in the NFC East. I'll defer to the representative in
Speaker 1: New Orleans right now, who played for the New York
Speaker 1: Giants as well as the Dallas Cowboys. I would have
Speaker 1: to say, guys, when you look at last year, with
Speaker 1: all the talent that we had that allowed us to
Speaker 1: take over the nfcast, and I don't care how many
Speaker 1: draft choices you have. I don't care how promising your
Speaker 1: quarterback might look in Philadelphia. I don't care what they
Speaker 1: do with Jones in New York. Now. The only the
Speaker 1: only I know this the Cowboys, even with their losses
Speaker 1: at wise receivers. With Mardy Cooper being gone, and even
Speaker 1: with our offensive line being the way it was, we
Speaker 1: were still able to dominate the NFC East last year.
Speaker 1: Nothing has changed as far as I'm concerned. They may
Speaker 1: have closed the gap as far as the other teams
Speaker 1: in the NFC East, but to me, the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: still have the veteran talents enough to go on and
Speaker 1: continue to win the FC. It's still gonna be, to me,
Speaker 1: one of the weaker divisions in the league. I still
Speaker 1: believe that, unfortunately, but the Cowboys are still the class
Speaker 1: of this division. So I know they lost some talent
Speaker 1: from last year. I get it. But here are the
Speaker 1: scorers in NFC East last year for the Cowboys. They
Speaker 1: beat Philadelphia forty one twenty one. They beat the Giants
Speaker 1: forty four twenty. They beat Washington twenty seven twenty the
Speaker 1: closest of all, twenty one six over the Giants, the
Speaker 1: second time, fifty six fourteen over Washington and fifty one
Speaker 1: twenty six over Philadelphia. So did Philadelphia closed the gap
Speaker 1: that much? They have not? I don't think so, then
Speaker 1: they will not. Here's those scores carry over? You get?
Speaker 1: Can get? Is it like wrestling, you get riding time
Speaker 1: for dominating. Oh there you go, Yeah, that would be nice.
Speaker 1: It's like soccer the aggregate. Yes. So here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: I saw this stat come up, so I figured it out.
Speaker 1: Quarterback ratings over the last at least the last thirty
Speaker 1: five games, and you have to throw at least eight
Speaker 1: hundred passes. Aaron Rodgers leads no shock there one oh
Speaker 1: nine point two. Kirk Cousins is next at one oh five,
Speaker 1: Wilson one oh five, Mahomes one oh three, seven, Tannehill
Speaker 1: one oh two, and Dak Prescott is sixth at one
Speaker 1: oh one point six. Any of those quarterbacks ahead of
Speaker 1: them in the NFC East, by the way, Nope, it's
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. You have him on the list. Do you
Speaker 1: have to throw enough pass didn't win over at least
Speaker 1: thirty five games? Okay, so he hasn't played definitely. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so to me, if you're looking at this, who's
Speaker 1: got the best quarterback in the NFC East, I think
Speaker 1: it's hands down it's the Cowboys. Do you do really
Speaker 1: trust Jalen Hurts yet? I don't know, do they? Right?
Speaker 1: They seemed to think they do, all right? They keep
Speaker 1: telling everyone that they do. And as much as I
Speaker 1: do like Jalen Hurts, I think I like him a
Speaker 1: little bit more than you guys. I still don't think
Speaker 1: it's enough to be able to beat the Cowboy. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think he has improved as a quarterback, but I
Speaker 1: don't think he's improved that much to where they're ready
Speaker 1: to take over the division. I don't see that. Here's
Speaker 1: the Jalen Hurts stats from last year. Okay, he was
Speaker 1: eight and seven as a starting quarterback, fifteen starts. He
Speaker 1: completed sixty one percent of his passes for thirty one
Speaker 1: hundred forty four yards, nine interceptions and sixteen touchdowns. You
Speaker 1: got Dak stats there from last year. I've got him here.
Speaker 1: If you don't know, I knew right here. So Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott was four hundred and ten or five ninety six,
Speaker 1: So sixty eight point eight percent, four thousand, four hundred
Speaker 1: and forty nine yards, thirty seven touchdowns and ten interceptions
Speaker 1: with a one oh four point two quarterback radio And
Speaker 1: so that was thirty seven touchdowns, ten picks, and Hurts
Speaker 1: was sixteen touchdowns, nine picks. That here's what Everson is
Speaker 1: getting at what he probably likes about Hurts's game too, though,
Speaker 1: is Hurts ran four seven hundred eighty four yards and
Speaker 1: ten touchdowns. You like that part of it, don't you, Everson? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's it's the whole body of work field. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought. And he probably led them in rushing though, yes,
Speaker 1: by thirty yards over Miles Sanders. And then you know
Speaker 1: that that that just goes to the you know, it's
Speaker 1: just a testament the kind of heart that he has.
Speaker 1: It's going to be a testament to the percentages catching
Speaker 1: up with him now. I'm yeah, the percentage of your
Speaker 1: heart can get your hurts. You know, if you run
Speaker 1: too much, if you run too much, then you're going
Speaker 1: to have those those instances to where you could possibly
Speaker 1: be out for the game, out of your career. We
Speaker 1: saw it out Dak Prescott back and I guess that
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty. So when you start talking about running
Speaker 1: too much in the NFL, you don't want a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, to me, is an exception. Jalen Hurtz is
Speaker 1: trying to be back, but his passing, his passing production
Speaker 1: is not It can't compare to Lamar Jacksons. If I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken in any means, by any means, but he's
Speaker 1: good for what Philadelphia is doing. That's why they like
Speaker 1: him so much. They don't want him to carry the team.
Speaker 1: They want him to be a compliment to their defense,
Speaker 1: and at this point, that's what got them into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: He was just a compliment to their defense. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be that quarterback that we like a Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be an Aaron Rodgers. He's not gonna
Speaker 1: be any of those guys Russell Wilson. He's not trying
Speaker 1: to be, but they want to. They want him to
Speaker 1: be the kind of quarterback that Philadelphia needs to compliment
Speaker 1: their defense. And that's not gonna get you passing yards,
Speaker 1: but it did get them once again into the wild card. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's how about this part of it. Compare the Cowboys
Speaker 1: weapons on offense with the Eagles weapons on offense. With
Speaker 1: the Eagles acquiring A J. Brown on Draft Day, with
Speaker 1: their trade with the Tennessee Titans, they've got Davante Smith,
Speaker 1: who of course, was a first round pick last year.
Speaker 1: They also picked up Zach Pascal who was with the Colts,
Speaker 1: picked him up in free agency. The former first round
Speaker 1: picked Jalen Rager, who has not performed well in his time.
Speaker 1: Greg Ward's still around there, tied end. They've got Dallas Goddard,
Speaker 1: they drafted in the sixth round around Grant Calcata out
Speaker 1: of SMU And of course they're running backs. You got
Speaker 1: Miles Sanders along with Kenneth Gainwell and Boston Scott. Or
Speaker 1: you like those weapons around Hurts or do you like
Speaker 1: what the cowboys have? Well, I don't care what you
Speaker 1: have around the quarterback. The quarterbacks still got a perform.
Speaker 1: Otherwise those guys don't get to excel, right, and our
Speaker 1: quarterback and performed. The cowboy at quarterback, he performed. This
Speaker 1: guy knows how to get it to his receivers when
Speaker 1: they're open, and sometimes even when they're not open. But
Speaker 1: when you start looking at guys like Brown, I mean
Speaker 1: when you dropped, when you trade for a guy like Brown,
Speaker 1: you know he's that that Deebo Samuels type of guy.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna make He's gonna have a good
Speaker 1: bonds out to the catch, yarns out to the catch,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be short throws to him and let
Speaker 1: him make his way down the field as best he can.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about that kind of physicality, you know
Speaker 1: he's he's kind of making up for the Heisman picked
Speaker 1: that they had what's the young man's name, the other
Speaker 1: wide receiver, Smith, Dete Smith. I mean, come on, man,
Speaker 1: this guy, this little bit of guy, you know, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna be He's not gonna have many yacks. When
Speaker 1: you're throwing short passes. You gotta catch him down the field.
Speaker 1: Brown can keep the change moving for the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: and that is what they're looking at. She is, to me,
Speaker 1: like dwing the ball to him would be like Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurt's pitching to a great money back. You understand, That's
Speaker 1: what it's like. They're gonna throw short to him and
Speaker 1: they're gonna see how many yours, how he can move
Speaker 1: the chain. So that that was a strategic signing for
Speaker 1: them because to me, I think he gives them a
Speaker 1: little bit more physicality from the wide recited position for
Speaker 1: a team that wants to be physical. So I got
Speaker 1: reminded of this yesterday. The Cowboys banking on Cede Lamb
Speaker 1: being the number one receiver and and you probably can
Speaker 1: find this. It was on NFL dot Com, Bucky Brooks
Speaker 1: wrote about Cede Lamb breaking out to be I believe
Speaker 1: the quote was one of the top five receivers in
Speaker 1: the league because he's gonna get the opportunity. They had
Speaker 1: a nine minute highlight film of CDs catches from last year,
Speaker 1: and when you put those all together and you sit
Speaker 1: in there questioning if he could be a number one receiver,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my, if he gets more opportunities.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were some spectacular plays in nine minute video,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of reminded me how explosive he
Speaker 1: was last year. If you look at the catches he made,
Speaker 1: the runs after catches he made, and some of them,
Speaker 1: how wide open he was in the game behind the defense.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's what gave the Cowboys the confidence to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: for salary cap purposes, we can move on from Amari
Speaker 1: Cooper because we've got a potential number one receiver playing
Speaker 1: for us that we're going to invest money in. The
Speaker 1: difference between that, to me, Spags is Okay, you got
Speaker 1: a highlight reel, that's great, but you know you got
Speaker 1: low light reels you can well, he's got to cut
Speaker 1: out the drops. I get it. I know where you're going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and trust me, I love some CDs and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that he turns out to be that guy. But
Speaker 1: that low light reel is going to be where he
Speaker 1: disappears where we couldn't find him, where he was nowhere,
Speaker 1: where he couldn't get off the jam, you know, to
Speaker 1: where we needed him to be opened quickly because that
Speaker 1: rush was coming, that four man rush was coming because
Speaker 1: once again we needed what spag and offensive guard. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's what that's what we had to deal with
Speaker 1: last year. The highlight wheel is great, it's when we
Speaker 1: needed him and he wasn't there. Those are the times
Speaker 1: that where you say, okay, that could have been greatness,
Speaker 1: But where was it? You know? And that that's what
Speaker 1: I'm looking at. When when when we start to falter
Speaker 1: down the stretch, you know, when the when the pressure
Speaker 1: started to get to us up front. Yeah, we needed
Speaker 1: him to get off of that dB who was on
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmag scrimmags jamming him because that was
Speaker 1: the m O. And for teams to beat us in
Speaker 1: our passing game, we're gonna jam the outside receivers. And
Speaker 1: even though if you're playing Nicola Dome there's jamming the
Speaker 1: flop receiver as well, which is where sometimes we would
Speaker 1: line up CD lambs. I feel like him being in
Speaker 1: the slot prominently, but he's got to be stronger. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping he's in that weight on this our season. He's
Speaker 1: got to be stronger, and he's got to learn some
Speaker 1: moves off the line. If y'all were called they had
Speaker 1: when they had the show last year, hard Knock. Mary
Speaker 1: Cooper was trying to show him different ways to come
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmat I hope he was listening
Speaker 1: because he gave him some good tips. You try to
Speaker 1: attack somebody head on, it don't work with these dbs.
Speaker 1: You have to attack him from angles, especially when they're jamming.
Speaker 1: Are like that, And I'm hoping CD was listening because
Speaker 1: if you do it like that, you give yourself a
Speaker 1: chance to get off the jam as opposed to getting down. Well,
Speaker 1: he says he put on ten pounds of muscle, for
Speaker 1: whatever that means. Although when I checked his weight, when
Speaker 1: I checked his weight from what's on the thing now
Speaker 1: till last year, is about to say, so maybe he
Speaker 1: got rid of some fat which he didn't have. Lost
Speaker 1: ten pounds, Yeah, muscle yeah, maybe he got Actually you
Speaker 1: know what though, when I when I looked at him,
Speaker 1: he and maybe it's because we haven't been able to
Speaker 1: do interviews standing next to anybody, right, We've always been
Speaker 1: five six eight feet away. When I was standing next
Speaker 1: to him in the locker room, Uh, this past week,
Speaker 1: it was like, he looks bigger and he's pretty cute. Right,
Speaker 1: he goes, well, I did grow a half an inch.
Speaker 1: So he grew a half an inch in Everson, you
Speaker 1: said shrunk, Yeah, no, no, he tiptoed half is that's
Speaker 1: what he did, got up in his tiptoes when they
Speaker 1: measured him. I know that's trick. You got stretched that,
Speaker 1: nick Man. Okay, So then Mickey, as you go out
Speaker 1: to watch practice on Thursday, what are you watching for? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean again, watch how they're using Tyler Smith. Is
Speaker 1: he the backup still the second team guard behind Connor McGovern,
Speaker 1: And is he going to uh play some at left tackle?
Speaker 1: Because even though uh Tyrant Smith uh did not practice
Speaker 1: last week, Uh, it sounds like he's going to be
Speaker 1: out there again a return this week to practice. But
Speaker 1: how much does he need to do in OTA's right?
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking maybe they take a look at Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith some snaps at left tackle, so I'll keep an
Speaker 1: eye on that. Um, let me ask your questions, because
Speaker 1: this is the kind of the elephrom the room. Do
Speaker 1: you think he's gonna be ready Tyler Smith? Do you
Speaker 1: think Tyler Smith can last the whole season? Tyler or
Speaker 1: Tyrn Tylan? I'm sorry, Tyrn Tylan Smith. Yeah. Hey, I'll
Speaker 1: take thirteen games of him over seventeen of anybody else
Speaker 1: you want to put over there. Can we get thirteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He always seems to have just missed three or four
Speaker 1: somewhere in November couple games. I'll take. I'll take you
Speaker 1: got you in at least kind of what you you
Speaker 1: were talking about. I think we need to have a
Speaker 1: play count for him all season long. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't care how good he looks. I hope we have
Speaker 1: the luxury to have a play count for him, because,
Speaker 1: like you said, Bill comes as the season goes on,
Speaker 1: it seems to weigh on him a lot physically, and
Speaker 1: that's when no injuries thought to power up with him. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's interesting because you see that with defensive lineman, they
Speaker 1: rotate in defensive lineman. You don't see it as very
Speaker 1: often at all with offensive lineman where you'll rotate in,
Speaker 1: although there are some teams who do that with maybe
Speaker 1: with a veteran player or with a younger player too,
Speaker 1: where they'll rotate in for one series a backup right
Speaker 1: tackle or something like that. Uh, it's obviously a tough
Speaker 1: thing to do with a veteran future Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: like Tyrn Smith unless Tyran wants to do it, and
Speaker 1: and there's something to be set on the offensive line
Speaker 1: for continuity. So speaking of the offensive line, I also
Speaker 1: want to keep an eye on over these next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, like who's the backup center? By the way,
Speaker 1: you know farneyak Okay, that's what they were saying at
Speaker 1: the draft. They love Matt farneyak. No, they say he
Speaker 1: was here every day. Okay. I took that as they love.
Speaker 1: There's a difference between being here and beingtdy. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: because Everson I show up every day. That didn't mean
Speaker 1: Mickey loves me. I just show up every day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You got the pessimism of bags and the optimism of
Speaker 1: field goal. You know, do they give Connor McGovern an
Speaker 1: opportunity back at center that he did like five or
Speaker 1: six years ago at ten State. But that's what how
Speaker 1: did they did? We did we try him and train
Speaker 1: the camp at They really didn't give him an opportunity
Speaker 1: to Connor Williams. The opportunity they gave Connor Williams. They
Speaker 1: were hoping for a double there and they got a
Speaker 1: little greedy. But a McGovern's gonna play center, then, who
Speaker 1: plays tight end or fullback? Right? That's right? So hopefully
Speaker 1: you've covered tight end and they free him up to
Speaker 1: maybe be the backup center. That center guard. You got
Speaker 1: to have one, right, Yeah, that's where you have That's
Speaker 1: where you have to have continuities at the center position.
Speaker 1: You're talking about someone with his hands on the ball.
Speaker 1: That's even more delicate than you're talking about your blind
Speaker 1: side attack. So I'm going to keep an eye on that,
Speaker 1: and also I'm going to continue to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on the safety position with our man Marquis. And the
Speaker 1: guy that I think everybody shouldn't forget about is Coyle.
Speaker 1: Tyler Coyle rookie for agent last year. Impressed him in
Speaker 1: training camp and in preseason games. And he's back and
Speaker 1: let's let's see if what he can do. Because I
Speaker 1: was impressed with him last year, I thought he you know,
Speaker 1: he had enough, he had enough to get on some
Speaker 1: special teams. I think he only played like maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of games. I can look that up real quick.
Speaker 1: Bad guys, we gotta go the doctor. Wade though, Oh
Speaker 1: all right, this is how I keep you guys on schedule.
Speaker 1: And and Tyler Coile did play two games last year,
Speaker 1: had two tackles. Okay. I hope the doctor's not too
Speaker 1: intrusive with you there, Everson, and I hope they don't
Speaker 1: find anything. I'm about right, Okay, we all leave that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we're not zooming. All right. Then we'll chat
Speaker 1: at you next week, and we'll let you know when
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, all right, I'll be ready to
Speaker 1: either way. Okay, all right, And that we're at a time.
Speaker 1: On this edition of mix Shots, you have a parting shot, Mickey.
Speaker 1: I wish I did. Okay, since you just kind of
Speaker 1: cut me off guard here, I'm gonna keep an eye
Speaker 1: on deck Prescott. How's that? There? You go? He looked
Speaker 1: good last week. Yes, he's did keep on, keep it on.
Speaker 1: All right. That does it for Mick Shots for this week.
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