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Speaker 4: It's always going to be a crazy week at this point,
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Speaker 4: stories from our fellow conspiracy realist. You are the most
Speaker 4: important part of the show. It is an immense privilege
Speaker 4: for us to be able to hang out with you
Speaker 4: together in the dark. We are going to hear some
Speaker 4: ideas about oh, we're going to have some much needed
Speaker 4: explanations about jobs, about smoking wet. We're going to hear
Speaker 4: some billionaire pranks. We're going to learn a little bit
Speaker 4: about life and death, situations. We're going to hear some
Speaker 4: pretty solid pitches to explain certain UAP formerly known as UFOs.
Speaker 4: And before we do any of that, we want to
Speaker 4: give a special shout out to a lot of our
Speaker 4: fellow listeners who had written in with updates on the
Speaker 4: Marion County newspaper raid and on a very troubling situation
Speaker 4: down in Australia. So maybe we start there. Maybe maybe
Speaker 4: we start down south, oh.
Speaker 5: The South Little Australia, indeed home of the Chavs. We'll
Speaker 5: get to that a little later. But this came to
Speaker 5: me from a listener who wrote me on Instagram and
Speaker 5: didn't give me permission to use their name, so we're
Speaker 5: just kind of go with anonymous on this one. But
Speaker 5: it was in reference to Matt the story that you
Speaker 5: brought recently in a Strange News I believe episode about
Speaker 5: a case of poisoning, mushroom poisoning that took place in Australia.
Speaker 6: Just to clarify, no, it was a When we were
Speaker 6: reporting on it, it was believed to have been a
Speaker 6: mushroom poisoning, right like nobody had confirmed at that point.
Speaker 5: That's right, And and I forgive me this specific Victoria
Speaker 5: is the province. I think they're called. Is that what
Speaker 5: they're called in Australia, It's it's a small town in Victoria.
Speaker 5: And this is a case where some food was prepared
Speaker 5: for a family picnic and several individuals were sickened and
Speaker 5: I believe three of them died. And there were some
Speaker 5: sketchy details surrounding this. Aaron Patterson, who prepared this meal,
Speaker 5: was estranged from her husband, uh and that was kind
Speaker 5: of one of the details that led to a lot
Speaker 5: of speculation perhaps this was intentional and intentional poisoning. Her
Speaker 5: husband at the last minute did not come to this meal,
Speaker 5: to this situation, this kind of camping kind of situation,
Speaker 5: I guess it was, if I'm not mistaken. And also
Speaker 5: like there was like a dehydrator that was found abandoned
Speaker 5: and things like that that were in the reports that we,
Speaker 5: you know, initially talked about that you brought Matt and
Speaker 5: now some new details have come to light. But also
Speaker 5: a listener wrote in on Instagram to send just some
Speaker 5: images of this is an listener from Australia who sent
Speaker 5: some images of mushrooms that are commonly foraged in Australia
Speaker 5: and just wanted to point out that they're you know,
Speaker 5: to the untrained eye, there's some similarities between a death
Speaker 5: cap mushroom and some other innocuous mushrooms or mushrooms that
Speaker 5: might be you know, foraged in the wild to use
Speaker 5: for cooking, you know, like we do hear about people
Speaker 5: foraging for Chantrell's and morals and all of that kind
Speaker 5: of stuff. It's, you know, it's they're delicious. You're a
Speaker 5: mushroom person. These are these are really tasty additions to
Speaker 5: to cooking. You know, if this is something that you
Speaker 5: are trained at least at the very least have a
Speaker 5: basic understanding of what these look like, you know, morels
Speaker 5: and Chantrelle's very specific looking mushrooms. This listener wrote in
Speaker 5: and had a picture of quite a few different looking mushrooms,
Speaker 5: some of which pretty closely did resemble the death cap mushroom, which,
Speaker 5: as you pointed up in I believe on the Strange
Speaker 5: News installment, are not native to Australia, but have come
Speaker 5: there through I believe wood. Wasn't that right, Yeah, through wood.
Speaker 5: We'll leave it at that. And so therefore, now are
Speaker 5: you know they do occur in the wild, Because initially
Speaker 5: I think I had said, wait a minute. If they're
Speaker 5: not they're not indigenous, that doesn't make sense. These must
Speaker 5: have been something that was imported or used Aaron Patterson. Again,
Speaker 5: the woman prepared the meal has now been questioned and
Speaker 5: has made some statements, one of which was that she
Speaker 5: bought these mushrooms at an Asian supermarket. And there have
Speaker 5: been some reports that have come out from a couple
Speaker 5: of different media outlets that quote a forensic psychologist by
Speaker 5: the name of Tim Watson Monroe who has been involved
Speaker 5: in some, you know, some pretty high profile cases there
Speaker 5: in Australia, and mister Watson Monroe identified several red flags
Speaker 5: in this case. I'm speaking to the Australian, so a
Speaker 5: major outlet there in Australia. And one of the things
Speaker 5: that he was quoted as saying in an article from
Speaker 5: the New Zealand Herald that I found is I don't
Speaker 5: believe in coincidences. Rather, to quote precisely, I'm not a
Speaker 5: big believer in coincidences. And what he's referring to is
Speaker 5: the fact that Patterson's husband had had a previous bout
Speaker 5: with serious food poisoning type symptoms. And I can't remember
Speaker 5: if we mentioned this. I don't think we did. I
Speaker 5: don't know that it had come out yet, but apparently
Speaker 5: was in a very very bad way back in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two. In fact, there are two cases that are
Speaker 5: cited in this article of gastric related complications. The New
Speaker 5: Zealand Herald reports that Simon spent twenty one days in
Speaker 5: intensive care after collapsing from a mystery stomach at his home,
Speaker 5: where his friends and family were told to come and
Speaker 5: say goodbye in case he died.
Speaker 2: He was in a coma for a while.
Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty one days is a lot of time. That
Speaker 5: makes sense that tracks. Did we have that info? Matt Beckett,
Speaker 5: upon initially talking about this story.
Speaker 6: No, some of the reporting was just about how he
Speaker 6: was estranged and how he had been sick in the past,
Speaker 6: But it wasn't like connecting it up. It does feel
Speaker 6: as though the investigation is attempting to make the connection
Speaker 6: between his previous illnesses and then this latest accidental or
Speaker 6: purposeful poisoning.
Speaker 5: That's right, and Watson Rope says as much, or basically
Speaker 5: says to one or the other. Obviously, he says he
Speaker 5: was either willfully poisoned or it was just bad luck.
Speaker 5: But then again, that's you know, let's refer back to
Speaker 5: point one. Watson Monroe does not believe in coincidences in
Speaker 5: these kinds of cases.
Speaker 3: Red flag number two.
Speaker 5: As reported by the New Zealand Herald, Watson Monroe isn't
Speaker 5: convinced by Patterson's statement in which she claimed to have
Speaker 5: purchased the mushrooms at an unnamed Asian supermarket, because he said,
Speaker 5: people just don't retail them. It's not that loose. So
Speaker 5: if this was like a supermarket of any scale, they're vendors.
Speaker 5: You know, this stuff isn't just come. They don't sell
Speaker 5: foraged stuff at like Super h Mart, you know, it's
Speaker 5: that's not a thing. Perhaps a farmer's market or something
Speaker 5: where you maybe have a stand with like the mushroom
Speaker 5: guy or whatever, and we have that here and Atlanta
Speaker 5: there's actually really amazing mushroom person that sells foraged and
Speaker 5: I believe farm grown mushrooms at various farmers markets, you know,
Speaker 5: around and we're talking like you know, a little booth
Speaker 5: under you know, or you rent a space and you
Speaker 5: bring your stuff. A lot of like local and regional
Speaker 5: farms set up in these kinds of things. That is
Speaker 5: not what she reported she specifically reported that it was
Speaker 5: at an Asian supermarket, and then they don't have a name,
Speaker 5: so we don't know, but supermarket is definitely in there,
Speaker 5: and that to me implies some level of scale, and
Speaker 5: to Watson Monroe point tough to believe that something like
Speaker 5: this would just get in there. Another thing we didn't
Speaker 5: know that we talked about and questioned was what the
Speaker 5: dish was. And this is really interesting because I've made
Speaker 5: one of these before, beef Wellington.
Speaker 3: Which has a whole layer of mushrooms.
Speaker 5: It's called a duck cell. A duck cell. It's basically
Speaker 5: you take a bunch of mushrooms, a bunch of mushrooms.
Speaker 5: You know, mushrooms cooked down, they're full of water. So
Speaker 5: when you coach exactly when you cook down to get
Speaker 5: the amount of mushroom bits that you need to basically
Speaker 5: coat the puff pastry. This is a nice piece of beef,
Speaker 5: beef tenderloin that's wrapped in puff pastry that is coated
Speaker 5: on the inside, usually with some kind of proshudo or parmeham,
Speaker 5: and then another layer under that that has this mushroom
Speaker 5: mixture that you cook down I think with some red
Speaker 5: wine and I think there's also mustard involved, but it's
Speaker 5: a lot. You have to cook down a ton of
Speaker 5: large mushrooms, chop up tiny and then it still makes
Speaker 5: an absurdly reduced amount from where you started. So what
Speaker 5: a great way to make a highly concentrated thing.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: I mean, even you wouldn't have to have them all
Speaker 5: be these mushrooms. You could just mix a few of
Speaker 5: them in. These are very very deadly.
Speaker 4: Especially if they don't care about getting caught. That's right,
Speaker 4: that's right.
Speaker 5: Another red flag number three, Patterson, again quoting from the
Speaker 5: New Zealand Herald piece. Patterson revealed in a follow up
Speaker 5: statement to Beliast that her children were not present at
Speaker 5: the lunch, despite initial reports that they were. And I
Speaker 5: cannot recall if in this story they were present, but
Speaker 5: I think that was the thing we were sort of questioning,
Speaker 5: where It's like, if her kids were there, that would
Speaker 5: sure sech make it look less suspicious on her part
Speaker 5: in terms of the intentionality of it. And I believe
Speaker 5: in the reporting that we had we put them there.
Speaker 6: That was the initial reporting was that the children were
Speaker 6: there eating a separate meal.
Speaker 5: Separate meal because we talked about kids don't like mushrooms.
Speaker 5: There was another claim that Patterson made, saying that the
Speaker 5: kids were at the movies in fact, but that they
Speaker 5: ate the leftovers of the same meal the following day,
Speaker 5: which is that doesn't seem to line up, you know,
Speaker 5: with what we'd heard, even in the initial reports, which
Speaker 5: probably you know, obviously initial reports something like this. It's
Speaker 5: an official investigation. This woman hasn't been compelled to make
Speaker 5: a statement at this point. There's a lot of conjecture
Speaker 5: going on, with a lot of like conflicting things going around,
Speaker 5: you know, and I think none of us were trying
Speaker 5: to try this woman, you know, in the court of
Speaker 5: public opinion or anything. We made a couple of points
Speaker 5: that were if this was unintentional, what a painful thing
Speaker 5: to go through, especially when the media is immediately casting
Speaker 5: aspersions on you, you know, and to have reporters come in
Speaker 5: to your door asking you about, you know, a loved
Speaker 5: one who has died. I mean the people that died
Speaker 5: were family friends or perhaps in law. I'm sorry if.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's her husband's family, as her husband's mother's sister
Speaker 6: and husband got it.
Speaker 5: So that's red flag number three. I'll just read one
Speaker 5: last little kind of wrap up from Watson Monroe seems
Speaker 5: like a smart fellow. Watson Monroe says police would be
Speaker 5: looking for points of weakness and the slow, steady approach
Speaker 5: would be tactical. He said, it's fascinating case. Everyone is
Speaker 5: talking about it. And then another last little detail, another
Speaker 5: controversial part of the case is the details surrounding the
Speaker 5: dumping of a food dehydrator. Talked about that. That was
Speaker 5: definitely a detail that we had early. A police statement
Speaker 5: by Patterson was reportedly leaked to the media revealing she
Speaker 5: became unwell after eating the meal. She admitted she then
Speaker 5: dumped a dehydrator she used to prepare the meal at
Speaker 5: a nearby tip, which was a word we weren't familiar with.
Speaker 5: But I believe, Matt, you found that that's a dumpster
Speaker 5: or like a Herbie Kirby kind of you know, trash hopper, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know for sure, that's whatever.
Speaker 5: It's a trash receptacle tip. Yeah, exactly, at a nearby
Speaker 5: tip soon afterwards because she was in a panic. That's
Speaker 5: super sus too, because she's trying to say I was
Speaker 5: sick too, and I panicked. And then but then later
Speaker 5: she admitted lying to police about how long ago she
Speaker 5: disposed of the food dehydrator, initially saying that she put
Speaker 5: it there quote a long time ago, but then revealed
Speaker 5: that she did it immediately after everyone got sick. Also,
Speaker 5: we have reports saying that Patterson was a quote experienced
Speaker 5: fung guy forager, which again back to our listener who
Speaker 5: will keep anonymous, and I didn't get express permission to
Speaker 5: use this this conversation to name them. It seems from
Speaker 5: interacting with folks from Australia, I think you guys might
Speaker 5: have as well. This is very common. A lot of
Speaker 5: people are experienced forgers. This is a very different ecosystem
Speaker 5: than we're used to hear. A lot of things that fish.
Speaker 5: Lot of people that live there are are a bit
Speaker 5: closer to nature than we are here in the States,
Speaker 5: I think, just in general. But maybe I'm generalizing there,
Speaker 5: but it does seem from the few people that I
Speaker 5: have encountered, you know, and have relationships with in Australia
Speaker 5: that they do have a lot of you know, naturalists,
Speaker 5: just kind of like you know, hob hobby level kind
Speaker 5: of naturalists there. I don't know, ye'all, this is all
Speaker 5: very interesting. Thank you to our listener who for the
Speaker 5: pictures and you know, and then also just for opening,
Speaker 5: I hadn't thought of the story, and I just wanted
Speaker 5: to follow up and look, And it turns out these
Speaker 5: are very new those are just a couple of days ago.
Speaker 5: A lot of these these updates. So thank you for
Speaker 5: reminding us of the story and giving us a chance
Speaker 5: to kind of look look at some of the new info.
Speaker 3: But what do y'all think? This really doesn't look.
Speaker 5: Good for Patterson at all?
Speaker 2: Certainly not.
Speaker 4: As we've kind of alluded to in previous conversations. The
Speaker 4: news and the stories that we hear, they don't stop
Speaker 4: just because mass media isn't reporting them. In your neck
Speaker 4: of the global woods, I have a running folder where
Speaker 4: I keep track on Oh God, I hoard information the
Speaker 4: way that like RPG video games make you hoard items,
Speaker 4: And so we follow up on all this stuff. And
Speaker 4: we really appreciate because again, if you are listening to this,
Speaker 4: you specifically you are the source of some of the
Speaker 4: best information, some of the best inspiration we get. So
Speaker 4: thank you Anonymous on Instagram, because this touches on so
Speaker 4: much stuff.
Speaker 3: And like Noel, to.
Speaker 4: Your point, this is still actively developing. There is going
Speaker 4: to be more that comes out in this case, and
Speaker 4: I think it is worth our time collectively, you know,
Speaker 4: to take a look at it. And I really appreciate
Speaker 4: I really appreciate that point. And it's a point that
Speaker 4: I think more people should be saying in the public sphere.
Speaker 4: The court of public opinion is not a court of law,
Speaker 4: and if this person was involved in no sort of
Speaker 4: malevolent activities, then it is deeply traumatic and unclean to
Speaker 4: subject them to baseless accusations. Now, if it turns out
Speaker 4: that there there was homicide of foot, then that that
Speaker 4: is for investigators to decide. I just I just wanted
Speaker 4: to give some space and say that I really appreciate
Speaker 4: that point.
Speaker 3: I think it's mission critical.
Speaker 5: Agreed, and nothing really to add because it's just, you know,
Speaker 5: these are just this is this is being reported and
Speaker 5: we're just talking about it. And I does feel as
Speaker 5: though the investigation will yield some results, whether this woman
Speaker 5: is exonerated or something else. And we'll keep an eye
Speaker 5: on it and check back in. But I think that's
Speaker 5: all we got today for this one. Let's take a
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Speaker 4: Folks went a little hard earlier this week on the
Speaker 4: mysterious plane crash out there in Russia. Shout out to
Speaker 4: our pal Jake Hanrahan excellent timing. Jake on making a
Speaker 4: show called sad Oligarch, So I thought for this little
Speaker 4: break in the middle, we do one of our favorite
Speaker 4: things about our weekly listener mail segment, which is, you know,
Speaker 4: letters from home, how are things going in your neck
Speaker 4: of the woods. We've got three pretty brief wins that
Speaker 4: are not related to mysterious deaths in Russia because I've
Speaker 4: been deep in that world. Thank you to everybody reached
Speaker 4: out on Twitter and Instagram. We understand when it is necessary.
Speaker 4: I understand when it's necessary to protect your identity as
Speaker 4: best as possible. But thank you for the insights and
Speaker 4: stay safe out there, folks. Here are some things that
Speaker 4: are a little bit lighter. We are always grateful for clarifications,
Speaker 4: for help with corrections. You're not just helping us, you're
Speaker 4: helping everybody who is a part of this show. Let's
Speaker 4: start with a cool clarification from Concerned Redneck. Now, we've
Speaker 4: got a lot of we've got a lot of friends
Speaker 4: and fellow conspiracy realists out in Australia as we know, right,
Speaker 4: and we got this really cool clarification. I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: read it and then let's hear the response, because I'll
Speaker 4: need your help, Matt and Nole to figure out whether
Speaker 4: this is real. Concerned Redneck says, hey, guys, I've been
Speaker 4: listening to some backlog episodes and I regularly hear you
Speaker 4: equate chovs Bogans and rednecks. Bogan and rednecks are similar enough,
Speaker 4: but a CHAV is most definitely not in that category.
Speaker 4: Chovs c chavs are usually urban, low income and most
Speaker 4: likely criminals. CHAV literally stands for wait for it, council
Speaker 4: house and violent. The closest US comparison to CHAV would
Speaker 4: be hood rat. Sincerely, concerned Redneck. Now, I don't know
Speaker 4: if that's true. I didn't even want to check yet.
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask you, guys, does this sound plausible?
Speaker 5: Well, council housing is. There's also I think they refer
Speaker 5: to them in the UK as council flats as well,
Speaker 5: and I think here you would maybe refer to as projects. Yeah, yeah, right,
Speaker 5: And you know, obviously those terms have connotations in whatever
Speaker 5: country and oftentimes are used, uh, derogatorily, let's just say,
Speaker 5: but I think it's similar, you know, similar vibe.
Speaker 6: It sounds like something that could be easily racially charged,
Speaker 6: used to buy someone in a negative way.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I wanted to do this while we're all
Speaker 4: here together, folks. Just looked it up on my browser
Speaker 4: choice and apparently the term chov is not an acronym
Speaker 4: for anything. So maybe it's like the old factoid meaning
Speaker 4: something sounds true that isn't that's always bandied about with
Speaker 4: with the word right fornication under consent of the king.
Speaker 4: So that's not true. I've never heard that one. That's amazing.
Speaker 4: That doesn't seem to get applied to other things too,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm hard pressed to think of another one,
Speaker 5: But I know I've run into things where like, that's
Speaker 5: definitely an acronym, and people just say it like it's true,
Speaker 5: and then it's just easy to believe because usually it's
Speaker 5: sort of a silly sounding word too, like a kind
Speaker 5: of a made up sounding word. Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just thought that was interesting. As everybody knows,
Speaker 4: we have all wanted to visit the Land of Oz
Speaker 4: for quite some time we want to go to Australia,
Speaker 4: and we're just very fortunate to be able to learn
Speaker 4: from people who actually live in the area. But let
Speaker 4: us know if you have ever heard the idea of
Speaker 4: this this word, this term as an acronym, and let
Speaker 4: us know the etymology from your perspective. So we appreciate
Speaker 4: your help. And also clearly, we are not fans of
Speaker 4: weaponizing language in a derogatory way toward any demographic living
Speaker 4: here in the South. We don't see redneck as a
Speaker 4: derogatory term, you know what I mean. And we have
Speaker 4: to understand that to lib Quality was right when he
Speaker 4: said I learned words have power. Now I'm careful how
Speaker 4: I use them. But also tell us your favorite weird acronyms.
Speaker 3: Moving on, this is a void.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going fast because what I get through a
Speaker 4: few of these. But we had we had a fascinating
Speaker 4: conversation about the concept of smoking wet a little while back,
Speaker 4: right and I listened to it and I thought we
Speaker 4: were just incredibly wholesome and clearly we are not actively
Speaker 4: smoking wet. But the unique position of drugs and illicit
Speaker 4: substances in the US and abroad, it's a continuing subject
Speaker 4: of conspiracy theory and real life conspiracies. So thankfully we
Speaker 4: had an anonymous source reach out to us. We asked
Speaker 4: for your help and you came through.
Speaker 5: Folks.
Speaker 3: Here's what we got.
Speaker 4: No, we're protecting this person's identity, of course, fellow conspiracy realist,
Speaker 4: longtime listener, first time caller. I was listening to your
Speaker 4: most recent episode about aspartame and you all went off
Speaker 4: on a shorter side about PCP slash, formaldehyde slash and
Speaker 4: balming fluid, etc. I'm reaching out to you about that.
Speaker 4: I am not an absolute expert. However, since the age
Speaker 4: of ah, I know all about drugs teen certain myths
Speaker 4: about drugs have always irked me, even myths about the
Speaker 4: hard or stuff, and in my early forties, I sometimes
Speaker 4: find myself being irked when I hear these myths still
Speaker 4: floating around.
Speaker 5: Ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to put on my know it all
Speaker 4: hat here for a minute. Though I might be wrong,
Speaker 4: I'll never admit to it. And hear this anonymous person goes.
Speaker 4: The idea of literally smoking from aldehyde or embalming fluid
Speaker 4: is a conflation of those two things, being two of
Speaker 4: the many street names for PCP, and these two street
Speaker 4: names for PCP have been around since the nineteen seventies. Well, Anonymous,
Speaker 4: you said just seventies, but I assume nineteen seventies. Who
Speaker 4: knows so, Anonymous says, though I am not a chemist,
Speaker 4: I believe the conflation comes due to formaldehyde being used
Speaker 4: in the processing of PCP and clandestine labs. I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's a precursor or if it's used in
Speaker 4: post production somehow, but further conflation likely comes from formaldehyde
Speaker 4: being used in embalming fluid. Not that it is impossible
Speaker 4: that someone somewhere in the history of mankind has tried
Speaker 4: to literally smoke something dipped in embalming fluid and or
Speaker 4: formaldehyde without PCP being involved. Maybe the motive in doing
Speaker 4: so was these hypothetical people couldn't obtain PCP or they
Speaker 4: were scared to try actual PCP. But in either case
Speaker 4: they somehow had access to either formaldehyde or embalming fluid
Speaker 4: and were willing to try that. Then, in this hypothetical situation,
Speaker 4: I think the results of smoking either alone but not
Speaker 4: actual PCP would likely be becoming rather sick or worse,
Speaker 4: respiratory failure death, et cetera, instead of getting high. So
Speaker 4: that's the PSA. Kids for aldehyde and embalming fluid are
Speaker 4: just street names for PCP. If you are obtaining cigarettes
Speaker 4: or joints purportedly dipped in either and smoking them, you're
Speaker 4: likely smoking PCP and not literal for maldehyde and ends
Speaker 4: with it ends with a little more of a PSA.
Speaker 4: The important part we want to say here is.
Speaker 3: Don't do it drugs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't try to smoke formaldehyde, and also don't try
Speaker 4: actual PCP for that matter. Thank you anonymous. What do
Speaker 4: you guys think? I feel like that's a good thing
Speaker 4: to get out in the world.
Speaker 6: I had an image of someone who's aware that they're
Speaker 6: near their death. Right, they're on their deathbed and they're
Speaker 6: near it, and they're like, ah, gotta start loading up
Speaker 6: on formaldehyde, pre load, you know, pregame this thing and
Speaker 6: just smoking.
Speaker 2: Sorry, that's so horrible.
Speaker 5: I think I mentioned when we were talking about this
Speaker 5: before that I was made aware of this by an
Speaker 5: episode of the fantastic HBO series Six Feet Under. You
Speaker 5: know about a family that that runs ah more more
Speaker 5: mortuary virtuary. Yeah, and there is an episode where this
Speaker 5: kind of like crappy boyfriend of one of the characters
Speaker 5: is found to have been stealing from aldehyde and they
Speaker 5: find out because like his friend who like smoked this
Speaker 5: joint that he had been selling these joints, like dipped
Speaker 5: in it, like had a freak out meltdown, like But
Speaker 5: it's funny because the simple you know, what we do
Speaker 5: know about the effects of PCP, he was acting like
Speaker 5: he was on PCP. But definitely the plot is that
Speaker 5: it was embalming fluid. So that's that's the show, you know,
Speaker 5: playing into that kind of myth as well, and possibly
Speaker 5: a reason that it's still around. And I think we
Speaker 5: both looked it up and even at the time and
Speaker 5: it was sort of interchangeably referred to as embalming fluid
Speaker 5: or PCP or both. Very very interesting, these kinds of terms,
Speaker 5: you know, like in just the lore that gets wrapped
Speaker 5: up in like drug culture, you know, and like.
Speaker 4: Sure, we've also we've done we've done our duty here,
Speaker 4: Please don't smoke PCP. There are other things you can
Speaker 4: do with your time, and there are more interesting pursuits.
Speaker 2: Making a joke about our next listener.
Speaker 4: That well, that there are interesting things you can do
Speaker 4: with your time. I love that Mat also, with that
Speaker 4: being said, if you have a crazy drug story, first,
Speaker 4: we hope you are healthy, we hope you have survived,
Speaker 4: and we cannot wait to hear it the last so
Speaker 4: send it in on A three three sdd w y
Speaker 4: t K Conspiracy iHeart radio dot Com. We're going to
Speaker 4: end this part with one last one. We've been getting
Speaker 4: some great billionaire pranks. A while back, we asked you
Speaker 4: what you would do if you just had one point
Speaker 4: eight billion dollars of goodbye money?
Speaker 3: How would you.
Speaker 4: How would you practice discord in the world right, I'm
Speaker 4: referencing Discordianism and the Illuminatous Trilogy. So how would you
Speaker 4: do it? Well, we got we got to agree with.
Speaker 4: I'm not even gonna h share our fellow listener's name
Speaker 4: here because they have a couple of cool pitches and this,
Speaker 4: hopefully will just give us a laugh in these dark times.
Speaker 4: Our our anonymous soon to be billionaire, says billionaire pranks,
Speaker 4: I would change my name to something crazy mister pooh
Speaker 4: pooh pp hands.
Speaker 5: Or I think there's a boat named that in the UK. Wait, no,
Speaker 5: that was that was cool? Uh?
Speaker 4: And then says okay, maybe not mister hands or government
Speaker 4: cheese or questionable milk, et cetera. And then I would
Speaker 4: go and fund a bunch of public works and put
Speaker 4: my name on everything. I can see it now, questionable milk,
Speaker 4: palliative care, government, cheese, public library, the mister Hands Equestrian
Speaker 4: and Emergency Care.
Speaker 5: Oh that's fun.
Speaker 3: That's a brilliant idea right, a great way.
Speaker 5: It is very boating mcboat face and spirit. Where like,
Speaker 5: they shouldn't have opened that up to the public because
Speaker 5: people gonna brank and the stupidest name is going to
Speaker 5: rise to the top. And now you got that on
Speaker 5: your ship.
Speaker 3: This is smart. I like it.
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I love the idea of going
Speaker 4: to one of the world's most prestigious universities and funding
Speaker 4: the construction of a new library or there's a new
Speaker 4: wing somewhere in the Ivory Tower, and everybody has to
Speaker 4: call it like the slippy mcdurpins, you know, Memorial Planetarium.
Speaker 6: I'd go with secret first name, last name Illuminati, so
Speaker 6: it would be like the Secret Illuminati Equestrian and Emergency
Speaker 6: Care Center.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 4: I could we love these weird daves. So thank you
Speaker 4: for the billionaire pranks, folks. Thank you as always for
Speaker 4: the clarifications and explanations. They are immensely helpful. We can't
Speaker 4: wait to hear more. We love it mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 4: We love it every time somebody writes in with a
Speaker 4: cool nickname. Bonus points for a pun or a weird moniker,
Speaker 4: So keep them coming. We're going to pause for a
Speaker 4: word from our sponsors, and then we're going to be
Speaker 4: back with some more messages from you.
Speaker 6: Okay, guys, we're back to the phone lines. We got
Speaker 6: a message here from night Shift, and I guess I'll
Speaker 6: just set it up this way. It's kind of a
Speaker 6: heroing story, Nisha. I'll let night Shift introduce, like why
Speaker 6: this person's writing to us about this topic. But as
Speaker 6: soon as we're done, like as soon as we're finished,
Speaker 6: I just want to hear y'all's thoughts on the story,
Speaker 6: because it's a story that we're being told.
Speaker 7: Here we go, Hey, guys, you can call me night Shift.
Speaker 7: So I grew up in a Christian church and I
Speaker 7: went to a Christian school. Since then, I've gone pretty
Speaker 7: far in the other direction. I don't really say that
Speaker 7: I believe in God. I'm not sure. I can't. It's
Speaker 7: hard to say. I guess I'm agnostic, don't know, but
Speaker 7: here's an experience that I had. I was just listening
Speaker 7: to the Divine Visitation portion of the listener Mail segment,
Speaker 7: and I had an experience. Just out of high school,
Speaker 7: me and three other friends going to get into the car.
Speaker 7: We all called shotgun, I want it, but my buddy
Speaker 7: insisted that. He says in passenger seat deal. I sit
Speaker 7: in the backseat. We were driving ridiculously fast on the highway.
Speaker 7: I got this weird sensation and I heard somebody in
Speaker 7: my head tell me to buckle my seat belt, so
Speaker 7: I did. Somebody cuts us off and we crash. I
Speaker 7: put on my seatbelt thirty seconds before we crashed while
Speaker 7: we were rolling. This was a hatchback and the rear
Speaker 7: window actually ended above my head, so while we were rolling,
Speaker 7: the ground was where my head would touch. It felt
Speaker 7: like there was a giant hand cupping the back of
Speaker 7: my head. I walked out of there with no bruises,
Speaker 7: no nothing. The friend, unfortunately, that was in the passenger seat.
Speaker 7: He went out the window when we're rolling, the far
Speaker 7: landed on top of him. Horrible story.
Speaker 5: He did not make it.
Speaker 7: Terrible situation, but I completely heard the voice and felt
Speaker 7: the hand on the back of my head. I just
Speaker 7: wanted to share this with you guys once a getting
Speaker 7: this night shift. I've been listening to you guys since beginning.
Speaker 7: I love it all right, I have a good one.
Speaker 6: Wow, pretty intense. Yeah, like Churchill, thank you night shift man.
Speaker 6: I mean, okay, so I talked to night shift. Don't
Speaker 6: give you guys some more details here, but just first
Speaker 6: of all, after hearing that the inner voice or exterior
Speaker 6: voice that tells you you should put your seat belt
Speaker 6: on when you're traveling down the road at you know,
Speaker 6: upwards of one hundred miles per hour, that's the first
Speaker 6: thing I want to analyze because to me, that's almost
Speaker 6: your not to put anything, you know, not to lighten
Speaker 6: what you felt or what you think you experienced their
Speaker 6: night shift. But for me, that would be my internal
Speaker 6: voice whatever that you know, subconscious thing is that's you know,
Speaker 6: yells at me sometimes like dude, don't do that. It
Speaker 6: would be saying, put on your seatbelt, dude. So like
Speaker 6: for me, I don't know, what do you guys think?
Speaker 6: For me, that wouldn't require any kind of exterior influence, you.
Speaker 4: Know, honestly, So this is fascinating we do know that
Speaker 4: throughout human history some luminaries, brilliant, brilliant people have experienced
Speaker 4: what modern science often typifies as auditory hallucinations, right, and
Speaker 4: hearing voices. And I want to shout out again one
Speaker 4: of our a really good episode when that's close to
Speaker 4: my heart, with our with what Passes from my Heart,
Speaker 4: with Joe McCormick, the bicameral mind, right, the idea that
Speaker 4: in the past people may not have had internal monologues.
Speaker 4: And indeed, it's interesting that even now there are people
Speaker 4: who have entered studies and they don't have an internal monologue.
Speaker 4: So maybe when the thought occurs, this feels like a
Speaker 4: message from the exterior. But also, you know, you can't
Speaker 4: devalue an experience like this because regardless of how somebody
Speaker 4: wants to attempt to explain it, it saved your life, dude. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think that's amazing.
Speaker 6: But what also saved his life was not hitting his
Speaker 6: head as that tiny it's a tiny little Mazda MX three,
Speaker 6: like nineteen ninety five. Okay, if you look those up
Speaker 6: or if you know what those are, it's a tiny
Speaker 6: little carts. It looks like a little mini sports car,
Speaker 6: and that hatchback window that night Shift is referring to
Speaker 6: really does, if you're sitting in the back seat, comes
Speaker 6: right over your head.
Speaker 3: It's a crazy slope.
Speaker 6: Yeah, their vehicle was traveling upwards of one hundred and
Speaker 6: forty miles per hour one hundred and forty seven.
Speaker 2: Miles per hour when they crashed. This is after I
Speaker 2: talked to night Shift.
Speaker 6: That vehicle rolled on the highway traveling at that speed
Speaker 6: eight times.
Speaker 2: And he's a you.
Speaker 6: Know, he's not a super tall guy, like an overly
Speaker 6: tall person, but his head theoretically, even if he's strapped
Speaker 6: into his seat belt, would have been slamming into the
Speaker 6: ground as it's rolling over and night Shift that I'll
Speaker 6: give you the words from the phone call we had together.
Speaker 6: It felt exactly like a hand, like a warm hand,
Speaker 6: wrapping around.
Speaker 2: The top of my head. That was like shielding him
Speaker 2: while that was occurring.
Speaker 4: Question Matt did in question for you as well, night Shift,
Speaker 4: if you want to reach back out and give us
Speaker 4: some more information here did night Shift, did you guys
Speaker 4: talk about whether or not this person had any additional
Speaker 4: similar experiences either before or after the crash.
Speaker 6: No additional experiences like that, however, night Shift and his
Speaker 6: significant other are very interested in watching TV shows about
Speaker 6: feeling spirits, ghosts, entities, that kind of thing like the
Speaker 6: specifically focused on the touch sensation when it comes to
Speaker 6: other worldly encounters like that.
Speaker 4: Also shout out Gavin de Becker The Gift of Fear.
Speaker 4: Can't recommend that book enough, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Sometimes those hunches can save your life.
Speaker 2: Right certainly.
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, just a very strange version of this,
Speaker 6: and Night Shift Guys invites us to around where his
Speaker 6: neck of the woods is. There's a thing out there
Speaker 6: called the America America's Stonehenge that I believe we've talked
Speaker 6: about and mentioned on the show before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty cool.
Speaker 3: We're crashing at your house, man.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah. Then I tell you, guys that I got
Speaker 5: cut from William Shattan is unexplained talking about the Georgia Kidstones.
Speaker 2: Oh No, I.
Speaker 5: Think they pivoted the whole episode because there just wasn't
Speaker 5: enough about it, you know. I think they thought it
Speaker 5: was gonna be enough to fill a whole episode. But
Speaker 5: the episode that came out in the new season is
Speaker 5: just about like national monuments. So I kind of have
Speaker 5: a feeling that they just changed direction entirely, but they
Speaker 5: gave me my per diem.
Speaker 3: It was just fun.
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, I want to see oh man.
Speaker 2: Oh darned. I'm sorry man. That would have been exciting.
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have been that's Willie's loss.
Speaker 6: We could have had a whole conversation about his side business,
Speaker 6: or at least association to a side business about the
Speaker 6: DNA sending crystals to the moon and all that.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that?
Speaker 6: Did we talk about that on the air?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 6: Apparently apparently talking about William Shatner. Yeah, William shatter Apparently
Speaker 6: he's like partnered in some way for the promotion or
Speaker 6: partnered with the company itself. Something about crystals. I can't
Speaker 6: remember the name of it, but you they form crystals
Speaker 6: and in some way infuse your DNA and they were
Speaker 6: going to send it to the moon and it only
Speaker 6: costs one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to do it.
Speaker 4: Sign me what, Yeah, let's use all our podcast riches.
Speaker 4: That's the new billionaire preak. He probably heard our episode.
Speaker 4: It was like DNA to the Moon.
Speaker 3: It sounds like a.
Speaker 5: More high tech version of what Hunter S. Thompson did,
Speaker 5: where he had his ashes like fired out of a cannon.
Speaker 5: You know that was a lot cheaper I think, but
Speaker 5: still not cheap. Johnny Depp paid for it apparently, but
Speaker 5: it did it did happen?
Speaker 4: Also, Hunter A Stomp's an amazing writer. I just got
Speaker 4: to say, Gonzo journalism is beautiful, but maybe not the
Speaker 4: best person.
Speaker 5: You know when you seem to like him to see
Speaker 5: your heroes up after him.
Speaker 3: The program is called Immortalize Me.
Speaker 6: Well, no, it's called my It's called space Wait, maybe
Speaker 6: it is called immortalize Me.
Speaker 5: Space Crystals is way better though.
Speaker 3: Come on, can we all agree?
Speaker 4: So Space Crystals is cool. It's like space law, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Space Force.
Speaker 6: The one I found has will It's a If you
Speaker 6: go to my spacecrystals dot com you can see William
Speaker 6: Shatner and it has a quote it says, I'm gonna
Speaker 6: put your DNA on the moon. It's crazy. You will
Speaker 6: put your DNA in the capsule. That capsule will go
Speaker 6: to the moon and stay there alongside Neil Armstrong's footsteps.
Speaker 6: Here we have the possibility of a type of immortality.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm not gonna have anybody hate hate on Captain
Speaker 4: Kirk On my on my watch. You know, hate not him,
Speaker 4: Star Trek and Geane rod Berry.
Speaker 3: I know you're not.
Speaker 5: You're not.
Speaker 4: And just to clarify for everyone, Matt is correct. The
Speaker 4: name of the company is Space Crystals LLC. I think
Speaker 4: they're out of Texas and their program under that company
Speaker 4: is immortalized me.
Speaker 5: Can we point out thoether that url is MySpace crystals
Speaker 5: dot com.
Speaker 4: Oh, well done, Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 6: All right, thanks so much night Shift for sending us
Speaker 6: that message. We're gonna jump to one more message from
Speaker 6: a familiar voice, a familiar person in our email, someone
Speaker 6: who writes to us constantly. Mister Brocknest Monster.
Speaker 8: Here we go, Hey, guys, the brock Nest Monster. I
Speaker 8: was listening to the UFOs and Aliens in Congress episode earlier.
Speaker 8: The situation where they were at the sighting where a
Speaker 8: couple jets blew past a spear that had a square
Speaker 8: inside of it, a box side of it. That just
Speaker 8: sounds a lot like a radar reflector. I think it is.
Speaker 6: Okay, We're gonna pause right here in between the message. Guys,
Speaker 6: I had no idea what a radar reflector is. I
Speaker 6: don't know how this didn't hit my radar in forty years,
Speaker 6: but it never did. Do you guys know what a
Speaker 6: radar reflector is?
Speaker 4: We talked about this a little bit off air. I
Speaker 4: didn't but I made some guesses. I haven't looked up.
Speaker 4: I'm very interested to see whether these are correct. What
Speaker 4: about you, Neil?
Speaker 5: No, yeah, I didn't know, and I said I didn't
Speaker 5: want to know because I like to be surprised.
Speaker 6: All right, well surprised. This is from Westmarine dot Com.
Speaker 6: I'm going to read directly from it. It says what
Speaker 6: radar reflectors do. Radar reflectors more accurately called radar target
Speaker 6: enhancers or RTEs, reflect radar energy from other vessels radars,
Speaker 6: so that your boat, if you've got one of these on,
Speaker 6: it shows up as a larger and more consistent target.
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, cool, I feel so validated. Okay, so
Speaker 4: it's a safety thing, right, yeah, radar reflector.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: Imagine you're on a small vessel and you're operating out
Speaker 6: on the ocean where there are much larger vessels that
Speaker 6: are just they're just barreling through and there's not much
Speaker 6: they can do to change their trajectory unless they get
Speaker 6: you know, early warning if you've got one of these
Speaker 6: on your boat, they're going to see you, or you're
Speaker 6: at least ensuring there's a larger probability that they're going
Speaker 6: to see you and not hit you, hopefully.
Speaker 4: So Electronically, it's like a mobile lighthouse.
Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, Yeah, it's a lot like a mobile lighthouse.
Speaker 6: But there are lots of uses for this technology. It's
Speaker 6: not just for ships and small boats and that kind
Speaker 6: of thing. The whole point is that it puts off
Speaker 6: a large radar signature, and depending on the size that
Speaker 6: you build them, you can make it a huge radar signature. Right,
Speaker 6: You could do all kinds of stuff with it, and
Speaker 6: you can maybe imagine, guys in your head, there are
Speaker 6: other military applications for a device like this, Right, let's
Speaker 6: think about that, and let's jump back in and finish
Speaker 6: brocks message here.
Speaker 8: I'm imagining a situation where the two deaths flew past
Speaker 8: a radar reflector. That would be a really good explanation
Speaker 8: for that, because I can't think of any other reason
Speaker 8: why you would need a box sphere, because that's ridiculous.
Speaker 8: But I'm not like an alien space ship designers to
Speaker 8: what do I know, Yeah, just looking for the simplest
Speaker 8: explanation for some of this weird stuff that's happening and
Speaker 8: sounds like a radar reflector. There you go, problem solved
Speaker 8: or whatever.
Speaker 3: Later close energy, I rock.
Speaker 4: I love it, man, Because we talk about this a
Speaker 4: lot when we're just hanging out or off air, the
Speaker 4: simpler explanations will often have a higher likelihood of being true.
Speaker 6: Right that we just talked about that we were discussing progosion.
Speaker 2: Y'all.
Speaker 6: I just put something in the chat. Please do look
Speaker 6: at that if you have a second, because when we're
Speaker 6: talking about what these radar reflectors look like, often you
Speaker 6: will see varying shapes. Some of that look like pyramids,
Speaker 6: some that look like almost sphere in a way, but
Speaker 6: others look like a box or almost a star shape
Speaker 6: inside an inflatable clear sphere or rounded shape.
Speaker 4: And they're inflatable too, which is fascinating.
Speaker 6: Not all of them are inflatable, some of them are
Speaker 6: for various uses. Right, Yeah, So there, I mean there's
Speaker 6: a possibility here that broadness is onto something. I don't
Speaker 6: know if it's the most simple thing, because you'd think,
Speaker 6: you know, somebody like Ryan Graves who had these had
Speaker 6: a sighting of one of these, and other pilots you
Speaker 6: know that were just like him visibly seeing these things,
Speaker 6: you'd think they would know what a radar reflector was.
Speaker 2: My question is.
Speaker 5: Do you fly these like balloons?
Speaker 6: Kind of Now here's there's the big question. Okay, I
Speaker 6: don't think you fly these balloons. I've never seen any
Speaker 6: evidence of them being flown like balloons. I've seen them
Speaker 6: attached to the ends of a large inflatable balloon because
Speaker 6: there's metal in there inside the reflector itself. They're electronic components.
Speaker 6: Sometimes it looks like maybe not always, but it would
Speaker 6: require some serious lift to get it off the ground,
Speaker 6: especially to have it, you know, hovering in the air
Speaker 6: thousands of feet above sea level where those pilots were operating.
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean there's another immediate question. Like first off,
Speaker 4: obviously this will remind a lot of us played along
Speaker 4: at home about the Chinese balloons. They're totally nuts by balloons.
Speaker 4: That One of the immediate questions I think a lot
Speaker 4: of us will have on our minds here is what
Speaker 4: is the efficacy of size? Like what Graves reported is
Speaker 4: pretty big, so would there be would there be an
Speaker 4: advantage to having a very large inflatable radar reflector. I
Speaker 4: just I don't know enough about the science this.
Speaker 6: Ryan Graves's story was that it was the entry point
Speaker 6: to the operating area, right, which maybe it was an
Speaker 6: attempt to mark the entry point to the operating area
Speaker 6: with a small device that would be easily pinged by radar.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: I brought this up last time we talked about something
Speaker 5: like this, and I do it every time. I saw
Speaker 5: a thing and it looked like one of these, but
Speaker 5: it would have had to be really big, and it
Speaker 5: was in a part of the country where the land
Speaker 5: is really flat, so your line of sight on the
Speaker 5: horizon or whatever is probably a little distorted. But I saw,
Speaker 5: like in the distance a thing that looked a whole
Speaker 5: lot like one of these. But I would have to
Speaker 5: have been at a massive scale to be able to
Speaker 5: see it from that far away. I think that's what
Speaker 5: you're getting up been like, you know, these are you know,
Speaker 5: I'm seeing them hoisted up onto a ship's sail and
Speaker 5: they're not tiny, but they're not small, but they're not
Speaker 5: like massive. You wouldn't be able to see one of
Speaker 5: these from one hundred from miles away or from even
Speaker 5: you know, hundreds and hundreds of meters away.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you wouldn't be able to see the types of
Speaker 6: radar reflectors that you can curb you purchase online.
Speaker 5: Right, But then, to Ben's point, is there any increased
Speaker 5: efficacy to having large ones? And I think the answer
Speaker 5: is we don't know. We certainly don't see them for sale,
Speaker 5: which seems I don't see any reason why if they
Speaker 5: were helpful, they wouldn't exist for sale.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 4: You know, also there are different shapes, right, Yes, they're
Speaker 4: not all orbs. I'm just seeing some appear to be tubes, Yes, cylindrical.
Speaker 5: There are all kinds of different shapes, diamond in fact,
Speaker 5: I mean, right, I mean it's weird.
Speaker 2: It's look, this is weird.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 6: We got to get out of INTERTYCA. But I shared
Speaker 6: a link to the drive dot com. There's an article
Speaker 6: here from oh gosh, I think it was last year,
Speaker 6: last year, December twenty twenty two. It's who knows, But
Speaker 6: it's a story about China using these and military drills
Speaker 6: for specific purposes. But it's not to call attention to
Speaker 6: a vessel or a strategical location. It's to confuse enemy
Speaker 6: radar about what is at a certain location, strategic targets
Speaker 6: at a location, So you can put these up and
Speaker 6: if you're looking at it on radar from like a
Speaker 6: forty thousand foot view right overview of a battlefield or something,
Speaker 6: it's going to look like there's other stuff going on
Speaker 6: in that area, and it's not, you know, maybe other buildings,
Speaker 6: even depending on the configuration that you're putting out there,
Speaker 6: or in the case of Russia's military, there are other
Speaker 6: reports in here about making a fa bridge using radar reflectors,
Speaker 6: like strategically placed so it looks as though there's actually
Speaker 6: a structure that's built there.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: It feels like militaries could make use of these in
Speaker 6: intriguing and innovative ways.
Speaker 2: I just don't know all those ways.
Speaker 5: It makes sense.
Speaker 4: Bleed out the enemy's resources, right, they want to blow
Speaker 4: up bridges, so bad give them some pretend bridges.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And these are fairly cheap to make pieces of metal.
Speaker 6: That's what a radar reflector is, at least the most
Speaker 6: unsophisticated kind. So who knows. I do not think I
Speaker 6: have to say this brock. I do not think that
Speaker 6: thing that Ryan Graves and those pilot saw is this
Speaker 6: specific thing, because I don't I personally don't think it
Speaker 6: would be floating like that unless it was tethered to
Speaker 6: a balloon that was much higher in the sky than
Speaker 6: Ryan Graves and those guys could see, right, Because it could.
Speaker 2: Be like one of those minds.
Speaker 6: Remember we talked about one of the episode, the minds
Speaker 6: that were attached to a weather balloon and it was
Speaker 6: designed to have a pilot fly through the tether and.
Speaker 3: Then get caught.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it could be something like that, But
Speaker 6: why in the heck would the military have one of
Speaker 6: those in an operating area for military drills.
Speaker 4: This is why we need to get our pilot licenses,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I'm so serious. Noel and
Speaker 4: I were talking about this off here. What was it
Speaker 4: was yesterday I got I got called on the spot
Speaker 4: about giving a timeline to this.
Speaker 3: So let's just say it publicly.
Speaker 4: I don't want us to be in a situation where
Speaker 4: we need to get into the sky and we don't
Speaker 4: know None of us knows how to fly a plan.
Speaker 4: Helicopters are going to be too complicated for me. That's
Speaker 4: on someone else. But by August next year, I just
Speaker 4: want to put it out there. I'm gonna lovefully have
Speaker 4: a pilot license. Yeah, well I'm also going to be
Speaker 4: broke from trying to get a pilot license.
Speaker 2: So well, good luck to you, sir.
Speaker 4: Indeed, if you guys buy, if you guys pay for lunch, then.
Speaker 3: May we can we can get a play.
Speaker 5: But yeah, it is.
Speaker 4: It is fascinating radar reflectors. I had no idea that
Speaker 4: was the thing me neither look.
Speaker 2: Up pictures of them. They're weird.
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