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Speaker 1: And we had some news today, still coming down a

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Speaker 1: to the UH to the New York Football Giants, And

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Speaker 1: did not win a conference game in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: They went h to nine in the Big Twelve, which

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Speaker 1: obviously the Big Twelve. It's weird. It's not as good

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Speaker 1: as the SEC or the Big Ten, but in terms

431
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Speaker 1: of top to bottom, it's a pretty tough conference. He

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Speaker 1: didn't win a fucking game, and he looks like he

433
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Speaker 1: might go winless again. So sometimes, like not all divorces

434
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Speaker 1: are the wrong decision. I've been saying this with Mike

435
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Speaker 1: Tomlin forever, like it'd be healthy to go somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Go coach the New York Giants, Go coach the New

437
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Speaker 1: York Jets, Go coach the Chicago Bears. You're just holding

438
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Speaker 1: onto something that doesn't look like it's going in the

439
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 1: right direction. Andy Reid getting fired from the Philadelphia Eagles

440
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: is the best thing that's ever happened to him professionally

441
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: by far. Look what's happened in Kansas City. He's become

442
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Speaker 1: like the chubby Bill Walsh. Well like at the time,

443
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Speaker 1: and now it sucks. Getting fired happened to me. Sure

444
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: people listening have been laid off or fired. It sucks

445
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Speaker 1: cause there's I always thought as a kid, the only

446
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Speaker 1: way you get fired to show it up late, being lazy,

447
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: being a d bag. Well, there's some industries like no,

448
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: it's like management change. Things change. You could be the

449
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Speaker 1: hardest worker, smartest guy, most productive guy, but if like

450
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Speaker 1: someone doesn't like you, someone wants you gone. Like there

451
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: are a lot of variables and nothing more than football coaching. Gottlieb,

452
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Speaker 1: who played there, was like, you know, over the years,

453
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Speaker 1: you make some enemies, and the longer you stay, the

454
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: more enemies you accumulate. And after a while, when you

455
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Speaker 1: start losing, that enemy lists from two or three guys

456
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 1: has grown to like fifteen, and they can get you

457
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Speaker 1: and they can put a nail in your coffin. And

458
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Speaker 1: that's what happened. I imagine it sucks because of what

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Speaker 1: he invested. I saw a week ago you know Dabbo's

460
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Speaker 1: rant of like I'm a human being, I'm not this

461
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Speaker 1: hurts this place. I've been here for twenty three years.

462
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Speaker 1: These guys, the passion and how much they care about

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Speaker 1: their university, Like, I don't think it's lip service. They've

464
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: obviously they make a lot of money right so that

465
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Speaker 1: they're not doing it out of the goodness of their heart.

466
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Speaker 1: They're paid premiums. But I've been around these college football

467
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Speaker 1: coach especially guys like you're talking about two guys that

468
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Speaker 1: have a combined like fifty five years of experience at

469
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 1: their universities, like it matters to them, but it's also

470
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Speaker 1: was time. Like I think this about Dabblos Sweeney. If

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Speaker 1: you know what I'd be doing if I was Dabbo,

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Speaker 1: and I would imagine he's not doing this yet, I'd

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Speaker 1: be telling my agent tell Florida were in it's time,

474
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Speaker 1: I'm moving on, and who knows, maybe Florida, Like you're

475
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Speaker 1: gonna do better in Dabbos Sweeney. You're gonna find a

476
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Speaker 1: guy with better in his resume. You take the risk

477
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Speaker 1: on John Gruden over Dabbos Sweeney, because that's what I

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Speaker 1: would do if I was Dabbo I'd pivot, but it's

479
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Speaker 1: easier said than done. I have no emotional connection. But

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Speaker 1: it also shows you like you can be as loyal

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Speaker 1: and as it happened to Pat Fitzgerald, who I've known

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Speaker 1: a couple of people because I worked with him with

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Speaker 1: the Eagles that worked under him. Pat Fitzgerald wasn't like liked,

484
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Speaker 1: He was below loved by a staff and people that

485
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Speaker 1: played for the respect level that people had for that man,

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Speaker 1: and the moment that hazing thing came down, they kicked

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Speaker 1: him to the curb. Luckily, you know, I mean, I

488
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: don't necessarily care, but he sued the shit out of

489
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Speaker 1: them and just won a lot of money. But no

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Speaker 1: one had Northwestern like essentially tattooed on his forehead or

491
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Speaker 1: the love and the passion, and they turned on because

492
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Speaker 1: you don't know. In the university, you're an at will.

493
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Speaker 1: Obviously you're under contract, but they can get rid of

494
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Speaker 1: you whenever they see fit, and they have to pay

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Speaker 1: you whatever they owe you in the contract. But I

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Speaker 1: think my Gundhy and Dabbo were to learn this lesson.

497
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Speaker 1: Everyone is selectively loyal, and that's the way businesses and

498
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Speaker 1: the best things that have happened in my life is

499
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Speaker 1: getting kicked to the curb a couple times in my

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Speaker 1: late twenties and early thirties, and teach me just how

501
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Speaker 1: cutthroat that. Because you can read all these books, you

502
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: can listen to youtubes, you can follow all these you

503
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Speaker 1: know people online, talk to people, but until it happens

504
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Speaker 1: to you, My Gunny's never been fired. Mike Gundy's been

505
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 1: making He's probably made a hundred million dollars over the

506
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Speaker 1: last five or six years. Mike Gundy has lived like

507
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Speaker 1: a king. And then you walk into an office and

508
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: they tell you pack up your shit, you're done. I

509
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Speaker 1: don't care who you are, Like, that's that's a kick

510
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Speaker 1: in that, you know what. So I just think that

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Speaker 1: college football has changed dramatically, and if you're coaching at

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Speaker 1: the schools with a big time money, you have a

513
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Speaker 1: big advantage to win and there's basically no excuse not

514
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Speaker 1: to win. I think Texas Tech now falls into this category.

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Speaker 1: They've been a productive program over the years. Now they

516
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Speaker 1: got big money, and anything less than like ten to

517
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Speaker 1: eleven wins is beyond a disappointment. And by all accounts,

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Speaker 1: Joey Maguire, the coach there, looks like he's headed toward

519
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: I mean the playoffs as he should be. He has

520
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Speaker 1: a roster with a bunch of NFL guys on it.

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Speaker 1: And I think Mike Gundy, who kind of got, as

522
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Speaker 1: the kids would say, dragged a little bit a couple

523
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Speaker 1: weeks ago when he played Oregon with his comments, well,

524
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Speaker 1: just speaking the truth, we don't have that money here, don't.

525
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Speaker 1: We can't land the players because are they going there

526
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Speaker 1: because they love Dan Lanning. Listen, I'm pro Dan Lanning,

527
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Speaker 1: but it's much easier to get guys to say yes

528
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Speaker 1: when you're giving them a lot of money. It's you

529
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Speaker 1: want nine hundred thousand dollars, you want seven hundred and

530
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars, you want this car, and the other

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Speaker 1: program's not where are you gonna go? That's what this

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Speaker 1: sport has turned into, which I've become numb to. I'm

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Speaker 1: cool with, but I think we have to acknowledge like

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Speaker 1: when Oregon plays Penn State, they're equals. They're both spending

535
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Speaker 1: a ton of money, but when they play some of

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Speaker 1: these other programs, they're not on equal footing when it

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Speaker 1: comes to money. And if you're at one of those programs,

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Speaker 1: that job now like Oklahoma State used to be a

539
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: good job. I'd argue it's one of the shittier jobs

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Speaker 1: in the country now. If they're not gonna financially back it,

541
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Speaker 1: you got no shot none. Don't even try it, do.

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Speaker 1: I think Vanderbilt is just now randomly good. Obviously the

543
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Speaker 1: coach is pretty interesting, clerkly, But I would imagine if

544
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Speaker 1: we dug, you know, beneath the surface guests, who has

545
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Speaker 1: gone to Vanderbilt over the years, rich people, who do

546
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: you think is helping fund the program? Money? You can't

547
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: function anymore without without big cash flow. It's like the NFL.

548
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: The difference is all the NFL teams because they're valuations,

549
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: because the media deals have money. There's no such thing

550
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: as equality in college sports. Ohio State and Notre Dame

551
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: and USC and Texas have a financial advantage under the

552
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Speaker 1: rules we play under now that is dramatically different than

553
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Speaker 1: some of these other programs, and more power to them

554
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: for taking advantage of it. But we have to just

555
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Speaker 1: acknowledge that, like Mike Gundy's a product currently of like

556
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: did he just get dumb overnight? After all those twelve

557
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Speaker 1: win seasons, ten win seasons, nine win seasons, you know,

558
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: go in toe to toe with Oklahoma over the years

559
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Speaker 1: winning Bowl games. No, they don't have the financial wherewithal

560
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: to compete anymore. And so whoever takes this job, godspeed,

561
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: because I don't think you're gonna win many games. Okay,

562
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Speaker 1: I got so many mail bag questions at John middlecoff

563
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Speaker 1: is my Instagram. I was like, you know what, We've

564
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Speaker 1: had a busy day, We've put out a lot of stuff.

565
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Speaker 1: But let's do a mailbag at John Middlecoff. At John

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Speaker 1: Middlecoff is the Instagram. Fire in those dms, get your

567
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Speaker 1: question answered here on the show. And I want to

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Speaker 1: start with this question because I thought it was fascinating

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was an extra excellent kind of

570
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Speaker 1: thought provoker, and it was would you rather have Howie

571
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Speaker 1: Roseman or the best NFL coach if you were starting

572
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Speaker 1: a franchise? And I thought about it because I saw

573
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Speaker 1: this question in my inbox probably yesterday. I think it's

574
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Speaker 1: a little like quarterback, right. I think you could argue

575
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Speaker 1: that Miles Garrett, like if you're just looking at like,

576
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Speaker 1: you know, this is a question over a period of time.

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Speaker 1: But let's say Miles Garrett was younger, he's a better

578
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: player than I don't know if they're thirty two starting

579
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks twenty eight of them, right, that's how impactfully is

580
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 1: Yet you would probably take ten quarterbacks over him, maybe

581
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: even more. Why look at the Browns. They got him,

582
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Speaker 1: and as Kevin Stefanski says, he's the defensive player of

583
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Speaker 1: the year in perpetuity. He's clearly the most dominant, unstoppable player.

584
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Speaker 1: Right when he tries and is healthy, he can't be blocked.

585
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: Even Jordan Mylatta, who joint practiced against when the Eagles

586
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: joint practice against the Browns, said their offensive line room

587
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: was laughing about how good he was, Like it was stupid.

588
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: Yet you wouldn't take him over obviously, Mahomes, Allen Lamar,

589
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: Herbert Burrow of healthy that crew. But I think you

590
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: could argue the next tier guys because you could have

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00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: a great pass rusher, but you have no quarterback. He

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Speaker 1: got no shot. How he's an elite general manager, and

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Speaker 1: I think there are other guys that would fall under

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Speaker 1: this category as well. But you would take an elite

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Speaker 1: head coach, you know, I think anyone in this scenario

596
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: would take the coach, the top coach in any in

597
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Speaker 1: any era. Andy Reid Bill Walsh, you name it. I

598
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: think you would take the top six or seven coaches,

599
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: and specifically for this exercise, the offensive ones the call plays.

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00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Their value is really high. So you got Andy Reid,

601
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Speaker 1: you know, you got McVeigh, you got Shanahan. I mean,

602
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: these guys are proven winners, right. I think the thing

603
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Speaker 1: with Lafleur, you'd go, well, the Packers, the organization that

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Speaker 1: that would be up in the air. You know, Sean

605
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Payton is pretty powerful to have that guy, you know, Harbaugh,

606
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: while he doesn't call plays like, he's kind of proven

607
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: now wherever he's going, he's winning wherever he's going. So

608
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: I would throw him in that mix, you know. But

609
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Speaker 1: then there would be guys like Dan Campbell I like

610
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Speaker 1: a lot. But how much you know it was a

611
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Speaker 1: partnership with Brad Holmes, right, brat Holmes is clearly picking

612
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: the players, right. Listen, this is where the Sirianni thing.

613
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Speaker 1: No one if you had to choose with the Eagles,

614
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman or Nick Sirianni, it would be there wouldn't

615
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: be a soul that would choose Sirianni, right, And but

616
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: that's more of an indication how great how he is

617
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: but I think you would take a lot of coaches,

618
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Speaker 1: and I think how He'd be the first to tell

619
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Speaker 1: you that. You know, they spend a lot of money

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Speaker 1: on assistant coaches, right they can. They have, you know,

621
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Speaker 1: from Doug to Nick. You know those guys are probably

622
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: more plug and play type coaches, but they are spending premiums.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Stoutlin makes a ton of money. He's the highest

624
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Speaker 1: paid offensive line coach in the league. Vic Fangio makes

625
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: a ton of money so that they pay premiums for

626
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Speaker 1: certain individuals on the staff, So you can't I guess

627
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: that's a long winded way of saying. I think there'd

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Speaker 1: be the number would be under ten, but there would

629
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Speaker 1: be way more than one coach going before how he

630
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: was picked? Great question. Why do offensive coaches seem to

631
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Speaker 1: not give a shit about special teams? The Rams and

632
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: Niners in particular have lost multiple games the last few

633
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: years due to what seems to be an indifference to

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Speaker 1: that unit, giving up not one, but two block field

635
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Speaker 1: goals to lose a game against a team you were

636
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Speaker 1: working in the first sixty five percent of the game,

637
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Speaker 1: and then McVeigh talking about offensive mistakes instead of how

638
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: dog shit is field goal unit was doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: I'll never doubt him, But he and Shanahan and others

640
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: quote unquote geniuses. They care more about special They need

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00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: to care more about special teams. Do you think they're

642
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: just arrogant or don't practice enough? I think it's simple.

643
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 1: Is these guys care about schematically drawing up the offense

644
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: and they like defense right. Both those two guys, for example,

645
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Jared versus Nick Bosa, mikel Williams, brain and Fisk like that.

646
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: They invest resources and these they value the defensive line

647
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 1: really highly, which I respect. That's, you know, the older

648
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: version of them. Andy Reid has always been like that,

649
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: cares about the line of scrimmage and specifically defensive lineman.

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00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: I think there is a nature to defensive coaches that

651
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: you utilize a lot of their guys on special teams

652
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: right to open field, tackle to shed blocks, and I

653
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: think that element of football, defensive guys gravitate more towards

654
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: special teams because there's a physical nature. There's a tackling

655
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: nature separate from the kicker and the punter, who most

656
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: defensive or offensive coaches aren't necessarily relating to. I don't

657
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: think it's an arrogance. I think it's I don't relate

658
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: to that style of football and I don't take it

659
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: seriously in the sense of I don't like it right

660
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: and I can't even fake it. And both those guys

661
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: are good examples of you know, Kyle said this offseason.

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00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure McVeigh has talked about it. I don't care

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00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: what you say. The most overrated thing and you learn

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Speaker 1: this as you get older. Are words like you know

665
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Speaker 1: I've seen from Marias She's like, I take nothing seriously

666
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: until we get pen to paper in a real estate transaction, right,

667
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: and like you can say anything about anyone in business,

668
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: but it's like, well it is the deal signed? Is

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00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: it done? And so many of these coaches like I

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00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: care about special teams and then I watch your units

671
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: are terrible year in year out. Yet a lot of

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Speaker 1: these defensive coaches are special teams units typically are good.

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00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: Why because what do they practice more often probably tackling

674
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: that that mindset it like the coach is there if

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00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: you went to a special teams practice, and I can't.

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00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: I've never been to a RAMS practice, but I've been

677
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: to my fair Shriff Kyle Shanahan practice he does. He

678
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: doesn't pay attention, he does not give a shit, and

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00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: he can't fake it, which I respect as long as

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00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 1: you admit like, yeah, I don't care, I don't know

681
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,720
Speaker 1: anything about it. I'm we got to pay a special

682
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: team's coach a lot of money to handle that, and

683
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: I think they attempted to do that this year. You

684
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: know the rams before is have they had Bones back

685
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: in the day who was pretty good, But I don't know.

686
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: I think they would just they just can't relate to

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00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: that unit as human beings. And it starts with the

688
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: kicker in the punter. I just think they hate those

689
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: two positions. They think it's such a waste. It's like

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00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: that's the game, guys. Uh. Question for the mailback. Has

691
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson played himself out of Hall of Fame contention

692
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: since leaving Seattle. I just don't remember a guy's career

693
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: going from such stardom to so much negativity as this player. Right. Typically,

694
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: it just ends you get old Manning Roethlisberger. It's like

695
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: no one's really breeze. People will forget that last year

696
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: them struggling to throw right. You just remember the good times,

697
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 1: how great they were, but you look at Russell Wilson.

698
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: He someone pointed this out to me the other day.

699
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: He's been a ten Pro Bowls, ten Walter Peyton Man

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00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: of the Year, He's been an All Pro, obviously a

701
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. He's led the league in passing yards

702
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: and passer ratings and passing touchdowns. Like he said, some

703
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: legendary seasons. If you just watched him from an eye

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Speaker 1: test standpoint, he had just twenty twenty five, thirty four

705
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: and eight thirty four and eleven thirty five and seven

706
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: forty and thirteen. Like, he had some massive years where

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00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 1: he was just one of the most dynamic players in

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00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: the league. But I think two factors. Felt like the

709
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: team didn't love him, felt like the best players on

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00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: his team, I don't know, resented him, and then Pete

711
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: and John completely turned on. And then obviously the way

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Speaker 1: these last three or four years have gone, I would say,

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Speaker 1: in the peak of his powers, he was undoubtedly a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, But if you look at the total

715
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Speaker 1: body of work, I just think, you know, like, if

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning's gonna get in, then he's got to get in.

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00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: And as someone pointed out, well, if Matt Stafford is

718
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 1: in the conversation. Then Russell Wilson has to get in.

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Speaker 1: So do I think he ends up getting in? I do.

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Speaker 1: I've always said this, I'd have no problem if we

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Speaker 1: didn't let any of them in, Like it'd be like Rogers,

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Speaker 1: Brady Manning, Mahomes, like Marino Elway in Montana. I'd keep

723
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Speaker 1: my list farve. My list would be short, Aikman Young

724
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 1: like you'd have to like check every box. But that's

725
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: not the way it is. They let in too many guys.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it should be a lot of Dion

727
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: Sanders and Lawrence Taylor's and Ed Reid's, but we've diluted

728
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Speaker 1: it a little bit. And that's my respect to how

729
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Speaker 1: great the elite guys are. They shouldn't have to share

730
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Speaker 1: that room with other people, but they do. What are

731
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Speaker 1: performance by the Lions question for the mailbag, Dan Campbell

732
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: and Sirianni were both mocked for their opening press conferences,

733
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Speaker 1: and Rake ranked behind coaching hires like Arthur Smith, Urban

734
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: Meyer and Brandon Staley. They have taken teams into Baltimore

735
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Speaker 1: and physically beat up the Ravens. Both have gone into

736
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Speaker 1: Arrowhead and won, and both are perennial powerhouses. And both

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Speaker 1: do this with quarterbacks most people don't think are that good.

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Speaker 1: I know they don't have the long resume yet, but

739
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: it's hard to argue a coach like Mike Tomlin is

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Speaker 1: better Right now, I can argue that Campbell or Sirianni

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Speaker 1: could have gotten the Ravens or Bills over the hump

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Speaker 1: by now. I think Reied McVeigh and Kyle are by

743
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: far the top tier, but it's hard not to put

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Speaker 1: them in the mix with the hardballs Pete Carroll's, Sean

745
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: Payton's Where would you rank them based on how the

746
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: coaches are right now? I think when we talk about

747
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 1: goffin Jalen, the argument more is like, especially with Jalen,

748
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: should he be in the top tier mix? And I

749
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 1: think any logical argument is he's not as good as

750
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Speaker 1: those guys, though he's winning. That's fair. And I justink

751
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: the same thing with Gough, though both guys can beat

752
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: whoever they're playing on any given week and their teams

753
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:11,479
Speaker 1: are really good. I do think what and I said

754
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 1: this last night, what Campbell and I'd say Brad Holmes

755
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: have done the Lions were like the losing his franchises,

756
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: franchise of the two thousands. You couldn't have lost more

757
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: games than them. The twenty tens, even with Stafford and

758
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: Dominican Sue and Calvin Johnson, they were awful. They had

759
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: a well under five hundred record. So those guys got

760
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: there and resurrected this franchise. Now, the Eagles had hit

761
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: hard times for like a year and a half and

762
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: had Howie Roseman, an established guy. And I'm not trying

763
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Speaker 1: to diminish Sirianni, but I would take Campbell over Sirianni

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Speaker 1: if all things are equal. Now, if I get Howie Roseman, sure,

765
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean I can take any coach, That's what it

766
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Speaker 1: feels like. So I think comparing Sirianni and Dan Campbell,

767
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: even though Syrianni just won a super Bowl. You know,

768
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: people everyone wins with Philadelphia. Chip Kelly, who I think

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00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: is not a very good, you know, football coach, would

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Speaker 1: not want him to be my offensive coordinator. I didn't

771
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: love that hire by Pete Carroll, but he won twenty

772
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 1: games and back, you know, in two year stretch with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. People win with Philly. Owner pays just

774
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 1: an incredible organization. It's like if John Harbaugh got fired

775
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: next year, whoever came into Baltimore's gonna win. You know

776
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: why you win now? Where I do agree, like Dan

777
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: Campbell is definitely better right now than Mike Tomlin. I

778
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Speaker 1: would take Dan Campbell over Mike Tomlin. Uh And I

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Speaker 1: think it'd be hard to argue. I mean, Sirianni's just

780
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Speaker 1: winning at a really high clip. I do think there's

781
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Speaker 1: more variables working for Sirianni than some Like the Lion's

782
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: owner just turned one hundred today, Martha Ford. It's not

783
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call it the most dynamic organization in the league.

784
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Jeffrey Lowie's writing checks. They're manipulating the salary

785
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: cap to load their roster. But I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: I think it's part of the society we live in too,

787
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: like who's hot who's not? You know, I think Jim

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00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is like validating how well it's going. But like

789
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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh's wins, should anyone be shocked that he's winning? Right?

790
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: He's an elite coach. He would win with any GM Like,

791
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: to me, that's powerful. So you could argue beside Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: who has two and a half plus decades of winning,

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Speaker 1: the guy that you feel the most confident. If you

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Speaker 1: had a coaching draft, would be Jim Harbad number two.

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Speaker 1: I think Andy Reid would be universal the number one pick.

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Speaker 1: I think if you wanted to have the highest floor,

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Speaker 1: it'd be Jim Harbaugh. He's one of everybody. Random quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: at Stanford in Michigan, Alex Smith, Kaepernick, you give him

799
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Speaker 1: a good one. Herbert Shit, how many games he won

800
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: the last two years? He won eleven? Last year he's

801
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: got three. He's one fourteen games in what he's won

802
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: fourteen or twenty games since he got back in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Or myrogate that got to the NFL, he didn't even

804
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Speaker 1: make it halfway through the season. They said, pack up

805
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: your shit and leave you suck hard to forget. Like,

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00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: I'm less emotional about Urban now that he's not coaching anymore.

807
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: But he did shed the stink of that Jacksonville situation.

808
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: No one brings it up. Think how embarrassing that was.

809
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: It's what like, you lose games. People lose games. You

810
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: have a bad season. You have a bad season. They

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Speaker 1: cleared out his locker in his office before the season

812
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: even ended. It was that bad. He was that big

813
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Speaker 1: of an embarrassment. He was that over his head, Jim

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Speaker 1: go back and forth, no problem. Would you rather be

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Speaker 1: the GM of the Chiefs or the Ravens, not including

816
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: the coaches. Chiefs defense is awesome, but their offense is questionable,

817
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 1: and the Ravens are the opposite thoughts. Two tough divisions.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens division technically easier. So if you just factored

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Speaker 1: in one hundred percent football, you would say the Ravens.

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00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: The Steelers are I mean a year away from Rogers

821
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Speaker 1: retiring and who even knows how actually good he is.

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00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we're gonna see him play Minnesota this week.

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Speaker 1: That could not go well. They have a bunch of

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Speaker 1: older players that's a powder keg waiting to blow up

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00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean, the best player beside Jim Brown.

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Speaker 1: The history of the franchise is going to be like

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00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: thirty five years old by the time they figure out

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Speaker 1: their quarterback situation. That organization's a mess, and the Bengals

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Speaker 1: are just the Bengals and now their quarterback is missing

830
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: another season. So I think from a football divisional standpoint,

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Speaker 1: you would one hundred percent pick the Ravens. From a

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Speaker 1: personal standpoint, if money was equal, I would much rather

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Speaker 1: live in Kansas City than I would Baltimore. So I mean,

834
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Speaker 1: both are cold, but I would Kansas City. I've lived

835
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: there before, and I've lived down the road from Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: I'll choose Kansas City every day of the week and

837
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: twice on Sundays. Both places care about football. I feel like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I would, just I would choose Kansas City from a

839
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Speaker 1: personal standpoint, assuming you know, money and power and all

840
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: that stuff was the same. The other thing with rosters

841
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: is like you have Lamar and you have Patrick under contract.

842
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: But rosters are pretty flu in the NFL. Within a

843
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: couple of years, Like how many guys on this Chiefs

844
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: roster and how many guys in that Ravens roster will

845
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 1: still be there? And the Ravens probably have a couple

846
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: more high end defensive guys. You got roquond you got

847
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, you got the Clemson corner Wiggins, he's not

848
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: going anywhere. But I mean a lot of those guys

849
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: you'll cycle through. You know, Chris Jones will be gone,

850
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey clearly will probably retire after this year. So

851
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: I think unless you're looking at like the Blinds roster,

852
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: which clearly these guys are going nowhere for the foreseeable future.

853
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: NFL rosters are changed. Do I have my first round picks?

854
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: How much cap space are we gonna have? Those things always.

855
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: The other thing is the Ravens. You know, Andy will

856
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: buy sweet players in free agency, like he'll be aggressive.

857
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: It's not really an organizational philosophy of the Ravens. Occasionally,

858
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: like they trade for Roquan and then sign them, but

859
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: they usually let guys walk, and they're big on drafting

860
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: and developing, probably as much as like the Packers. They're

861
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: like the bigger market version of the Packers. They're huge

862
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: on letting guys walk, getting calm picks, and then drafting,

863
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: and they've historically been a pretty good drafting team. What's

864
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: up with the Lamar gargling. I'm a Steeler fan, so

865
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: I get I get it. I might be biased, but

866
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm constantly watching excuses made for Lamar

867
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: after losing big games. He had a losing record in

868
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,439
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and he never seems to beat the Chiefs

869
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: or the Bills even in the regular season. He beat

870
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: the Bills last year in the regular season, kicked their ass.

871
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: But I hear what you're saying if this were basketball,

872
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: the media would be killing him like James Harden or

873
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: Embiid or Paul George. I think the main difference is,

874
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: let's use Joel Embiid. Joel e Bid doesn't play in

875
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: regular season games like Paul George. These guys miss a

876
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:14,919
Speaker 1: lot of time with injuries. And Joel Embiid has never

877
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: been to a conference finals Paul George, I guess he

878
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: has in Indiana James has you know now, James is

879
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: terrible in the playoffs, but I hear you. I think

880
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,760
Speaker 1: there would be some of that. I think Lamar Jackson

881
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: is way more likable than James Harden and Joel Embiid dramatically,

882
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: more like no one's ever said you're fat, if anything.

883
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: Lamar is like, you know, I looked a little slow,

884
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: so I lost him late, and b He's like, I'm

885
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: in the best shape of my life and he's out

886
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: of shape. It's like, what are we doing? Obviously his

887
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: body's left him now. And James Harden to me is

888
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: I have actually seen James Harden live. I remember in

889
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: a playoff series, like the first year the Warriors won

890
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: the championship, they were playing him when he had Dwight Howard.

891
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: He was actually pretty good. I remember being in Game

892
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: one and he was just hitting the step back. I'm like,

893
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: this fucking guy's pretty good. But over ever since, I mean,

894
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: he's been horrendous in the playoffs. I hear you, I mean,

895
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: you gotta win one thing. He's benefited from that, like that,

896
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen just has and his defense has been dominant.

897
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: When you watch his defense the other night, look like that,

898
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: you're not used to seeing that. He's not used to

899
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: having a bad defense. He's used to having the best

900
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: defense or one of the best defenses. So like, and

901
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: he has a high level organization, you know, Like Lamar

902
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: has a lot going for him, but he's also a

903
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: pretty special player now. He for his standards, wasn't very

904
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: good the other night. Missed some open throws, ran into

905
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: some sacks. He was shitty. I don't know what you

906
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: want me to tell you. But more often than not,

907
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: he's pretty good. He hasn't won in the playoffs, right,

908
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: And that's why I've always said, like I had Josh

909
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 1: Allen ranked above him before last year, Josh's been good

910
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Lamar hasn't. And even last year, like

911
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: he was good in one half, So I hear you.

912
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: There's definitely a hardened esque element to Lamar. I just

913
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: think he's more like I think he's just easier. Like

914
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: some people are just likable, some people are not like.

915
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 1: I just think JOELMBI is not very likable anymore. The

916
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings will represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

917
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: They have one of, if not the best rosters in

918
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: the league, alongside top tier coaching, scheme and defense. If

919
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: quarterback play can just be middle of the pack with

920
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: the weapons they have, the Vikings will make it all

921
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: the way. Thoughts, that's a pretty big question mark. Okay,

922
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,439
Speaker 1: they have this rookie quarterback who could not play last

923
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: year comes this year, has played eight quarters, seven of

924
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: them have been atrocious, and is now injured. They're rolling

925
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: out Carson Wentz. Who I get it. They just won

926
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 1: a game by a lot playing Jake Browning. He has

927
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: started six six years, six different teams, so not exactly

928
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: the uh you know, the model of just stability with him.

929
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: So I think they've got a lot of moving parts

930
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: of the quarterback position. Is JJ McCarthy good and could

931
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: they win big games with Carson Wentz? I think We

932
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that. Don't dispute anything else

933
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: you said, but we all said that coming into the

934
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 1: year roster suite. It's why a lot of people that

935
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 1: have hit me up about, you know, Sam Donald. I think,

936
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if I got this question with UH

937
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: with Sam, but someone sent me a DM like the

938
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: vikings are dumb. They should have just kept Sam Donald.

939
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,240
Speaker 1: I get he was bad those last couple of weeks,

940
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: but he is so much better than their situation now.

941
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: And while I agree Sam Donald is dramatically better today

942
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: than JJ McCarthy, the chances JJ McCarthy will ever be

943
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: as good as Sam was last year and is currently

944
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 1: playing for SAT it's probably slimmed to none. But they

945
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: would have had to give him a big contract and

946
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have signed the guys they signed, So it

947
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: was a cost benefit analysis. Do we want to invest

948
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: in Sam Donald we already have this rookie quarterback on

949
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: the roster, and then not fill our roster up with

950
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: better players, or let Sam walk go all in with JJ,

951
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: get some backup quarterbacks, you know, figure out a veteran

952
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: backup quarterback behind them, and load up our roster. And

953
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: that's what they chose to do it, which I can't

954
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: I can't hate on because there's no guarantee giving Sam

955
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: Donald with the roster that they would have had to

956
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: play with, given the money he would have taken, could

957
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: have won playoff games because they didn't last year and

958
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: it would have been very similar. So that they took

959
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: a risk, which I respect is a risk gonna work out.

960
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: Time will tell, but it's pretty risky when three weeks in,

961
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: when it's like, well got Carson Wentz and JJ's hurt again.

962
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: Even you guys have to admit if you're a Vikings fan,

963
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: like it's it's cool. I mean, our team's legit and

964
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: if we had a high level quarterback, we'd probably win

965
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, right if I gave you, If I

966
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: gave you like Dak Prescott, you'd be like, we're gonna

967
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: win fifteen games. But it's like, what's it gonna look like?

968
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 1: Even this week? You should I think he could be

969
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I actually love the Steelers until I realized

970
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: that was an international game because I'm like, oh, the

971
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: Steelers are an underdog at home, and then someone's like, no,

972
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: they're in Dublin. I'm like, ah, I don't like it

973
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: as much anymore. Okay, couple more. A big fan in

974
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 1: this age of no acknowledgment for bad takes, I highly

975
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: respect for you owning it when proven incorrect. I specifically

976
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: tuned in today to see if you would address your

977
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: criticism of Johnny Morton. I don't have a question, just

978
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: want to say the three and out very entertaining. I

979
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: don't get paid to be right or wrong, so it's

980
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: like Mike, my job's entertain and I'm just an opinionated guy.

981
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't ever make up takes. I thought it was

982
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: very logical to go this Johnny Morton experiment could not work,

983
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: and after week one you're like, God, this could be weird,

984
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: and you watch in the last couple of weeks you're like,

985
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 1: especially on Monday Night football, calling plays that looked exactly

986
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: like Ben Johnson was. I supposed to say, great job

987
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: by Ben Johnny Morton, but watch out, he's gonna shit

988
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: the bed over the next Like, No, I don't care.

989
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: I don't understand why people get so tied to takes.

990
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: This isn't like your job doesn't depend on being right

991
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: or wrong. Right. We're all gonna miss things. We're all

992
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: gonna have opinions and theories on things that are true

993
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,240
Speaker 1: and not true. And listen, does that mean Johnny Morton

994
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: is the next Andy Reid. No, but he called an

995
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: incredible game. I mean the trick plays, the goal line, touchdown,

996
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 1: hand off to the amin Ross Saint Brown and who

997
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: knows maybe they had that play And if you're a

998
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: Lions fan, maybe you guys have run that before some

999
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: version of that, I feel like you have. But the

1000
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: coaching detail to that where Jared Goff handed the ball

1001
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: to Saint Brown vertically so he could pitch it instead

1002
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: of having to work it into his hands. That level

1003
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: of detail, like they're a well run operation. And I

1004
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: saw this clip from Dan Campbell. He's like, guys, I

1005
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: don't think you guys quite understand are best players. So

1006
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: he's saying, who Sewell Goff, Saint Brown, Gibbs, Laporta, Aiden

1007
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Branch are hardest working players. This is sports is never

1008
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: that complicated. If your hardest worker. I saw with the

1009
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 1: Warriors when I lived in the Bay Area, like Steph Curry,

1010
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: Klay Thompson, Draymond, those guys were grinders. And then when

1011
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: they got Kevin like, all he did was want to

1012
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: play basketball. I saw with the Giants with Matt Cain

1013
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: and Madison Bumgardner and Buster Posey and Hunter Pence. It's

1014
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: like championship teams usually high level players, the best players.

1015
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: We saw a dynasty for twenty years, who's like the

1016
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: hardest worker in the league. Tom freaking Brady, like shocker

1017
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and Tom Brady are all time greats. They're

1018
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: also like absolutely obsessed with football, you know. So it's

1019
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: like they've done a really good job of building that

1020
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: team with high level guys that love football. And you know,

1021
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: Johnny Morton, he does have a blueprint these last couple

1022
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: of years of the plays they've run. Now you never

1023
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: know like the right time to call him, but he

1024
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: was pretty dialed in the other night. I don't see

1025
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: how there would be any other take. I even thought

1026
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: when Colin came out based on the Hall of Fame

1027
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 1: game that they look kind of discombobulated. I thought that

1028
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: was a little too premature. I'm like, I take nothing

1029
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 1: away from the Hall of Fame game. But then the

1030
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 1: preseason kept going, and then the week one happened. I

1031
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: was concerned, but that was a coaching clinic from Dan

1032
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: and his two coordinators, because Dan sets the tone of

1033
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna show up in this ring and we're gonna

1034
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: fucking hit you right in the square in the jaw,

1035
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: and I dare you to swing back, because if you

1036
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: swing back, we're gonna swing again three more times, multiple

1037
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: more jaw shots, uppercut, and then a kidney shot. I

1038
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: dare you to swing again because we plan. And that's

1039
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: what Dan Campbell brings, like what Jim Harbaugh brings, the

1040
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: fighter mentality. And then if his coordinators are right as

1041
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: they were last year, sky's the limit. Obviously, you know,

1042
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: football is in a one game situation. You have a

1043
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: bad playoff game, you lose, and they lost to Washington.

1044
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: But the team that we saw last night, if that team, now,

1045
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: it was hard because they were missing a bunch of

1046
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: bodies on defense in the playoff game, if I remember correctly.

1047
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 1: But if the Lions play like that, they're a threat

1048
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: to win Super Bowl. I mean, I think we'd all agree. Okay,

1049
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: last question, do you think the NFL would ever explore

1050
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: a rule on game winning tying field goals. I feel

1051
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 1: like kickers are gonna be able hit from further and

1052
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: further out in years to come. If the current trend

1053
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: keeps going the way it is, it takes some fun

1054
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 1: out of the game. Basically one U play from the

1055
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: offense and they're in position to win a game. Seems

1056
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. I think maybe something like no game

1057
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: tying or winning field goals from longer than fifty is

1058
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: this crazy? We will end on this. I still don't

1059
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: feel like you're a lock to hit field goals. You know,

1060
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: especially as the early in the season there's no weather

1061
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: as the season goes in these outdoor stadiums, especially in

1062
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,440
Speaker 1: the Northeast or in the South where it rains and

1063
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: the wind in the Midwest where it's freezing cold, it

1064
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: is much more difficult to hit field goals. Obviously in

1065
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: controlled environments in the Dome now, one major factor the

1066
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: was it baits last night. You kick it out of

1067
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 1: bounce like you get a little too cute with the kickoff.

1068
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 1: They get the ball to the forty yard line. So

1069
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: if you have a guy that can kick a sixty

1070
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: yard field goal, I don't have to get very far

1071
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: at all, So you kick it like. If anything, it

1072
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: puts an emphasis on kicking it in that that window

1073
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 1: and tackling the guy somewhere around the twenty yard line

1074
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 1: because it can be done that The Rams were doing

1075
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: it all game. I forget what they call it, like

1076
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 1: they had a name for it. Greg Olsen kept saying,

1077
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: but it's it's the emphasis on special teams. So I

1078
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 1: have no problem because I you know, for every Brandon Aubrey,

1079
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of kicks missed. We still see

1080
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: extra points missed every single week. Butker missed a kick

1081
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night football like people miss kicks. So I

1082
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: I hear you, like it's it's tough to lose a

1083
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: game on a game winning field goal, but there is

1084
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, something exhilarating about even like a forty

1085
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,479
Speaker 1: five yard field goal. You can block it. I would

1086
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: say one of the coolest plays in this I was

1087
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: put punt there too, a block field goal or a

1088
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: block punt and when the defense picks it up, it

1089
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: starts going the other way. That that is a that's

1090
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: as entertaining of a play as there is in football.

1091
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, how could you ban

1092
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: a twenty five yard field goal if you're down two points,

1093
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: I gotta try to score a touchdown? Like what I'm

1094
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: not with you on that I hear what you're saying, like,

1095
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: I get the logic on it, but I'm cool with

1096
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 1: the way it is right now, and I think we're

1097
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: a little numb. These guys have longer legs, not like

1098
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 1: actual longer legs, but being able to kick it longer.

1099
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: I don't think there are any law like Brandon Aubrey

1100
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: might not miss, but a lot of guys can fifty

1101
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: two yard field goal in November in Cleveland or Baltimore, Chicago,

1102
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: wind and is cold that they are no lock to

1103
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: make it. The volume