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Speaker 1: Anthony is on our show a lot, President Trump announcing

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Speaker 1: he's going to nominate Heritage of Foundation Chief Economists E. J.

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Speaker 1: Anthony the next commissioner or the BLS or loss. Uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe the BLS has gained. He's going to replace Erica

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Speaker 1: kent Afar, who just you know, seems like a fine person,

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Speaker 1: but that name. Every time a lot this, this is

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Speaker 1: an uptick. There a lot easier. President Trump right first fired.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you would have said the foot.

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Speaker 1: You would have just I guarantee you would have said

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Speaker 1: the old b LS commissioner.

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Speaker 3: That was fired.

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Speaker 2: That's how you would have probably.

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Speaker 1: Gotten That's how That's how I would have done it

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Speaker 1: one way, which I thought about it, and then I said,

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Speaker 1: you know what tricks on TV? No one, Yeah, no

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Speaker 1: one at home is going to know either way. So

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Speaker 1: I'm going with Makent, who President Trump fired on August first,

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Speaker 1: following a worse than expected jobs report.

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Speaker 2: At this point, I would have learned her name.

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Speaker 1: So I say, I'm a little worried about I hope

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Speaker 1: the CPI isn't like crazy, because you know, we do

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Speaker 1: have to trust these numbers. These are as good as

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Speaker 1: it gets. Probably around the world, most of the numbers

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Speaker 1: that we do generate. The President had accused the last

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Speaker 1: BLS director of manipulating the data, and then when we

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Speaker 1: spoke to the President, I try to talk him into look,

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Speaker 1: the data is so bad and it hasn't been improved

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Speaker 1: that there's plenty of reasons maybe to try and get

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Speaker 1: somebody else to do it without saying that it was

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Speaker 1: politically motivated antony. By the way, it was a contributor

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Speaker 1: to the Project twenty twenty five Policy Blueprint. Frequent Squawkbox

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Speaker 1: guest President Trump advisor Steve Bannon had been pushing.

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Speaker 2: For him to be nominated. This is the primal screen

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Speaker 2: of a dying regime.

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Speaker 4: Pray for our enemies, because we're going to medieval on

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Speaker 4: these people.

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Speaker 2: There's not got a free shot.

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Speaker 4: All these networks lying about the people, the people have

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Speaker 4: had a belly full of it.

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Speaker 2: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you

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Speaker 2: tried to do it reading in the world to stop that,

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Speaker 2: but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

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Speaker 2: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 2: big line?

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Speaker 5: Mega media?

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Speaker 6: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 6: these people had a conscience.

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Speaker 4: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 4: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 4: will be saved.

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Speaker 3: War Room.

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Speaker 2: He's your host, Stephen k.

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Speaker 4: Ban Tuesday twelve August, You're ever Lower twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 4: A packed second hours coming up.

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Speaker 2: Solomon's going to be here with kind of a blockbuster.

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Speaker 4: He scooped everybody on last night about these seditious conspiracy charges,

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Speaker 4: grand jury, all of it. Certain whistleblowers and informants coming out.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get to John Solomon also said, Michael Patrick

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Speaker 4: Leahy and Jeff Shepherd have made an incredible film about

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Speaker 4: President Nixon. We're going to launch that today. You get

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Speaker 4: to see on that. Jim Rikers, the Great Jim Rickards

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Speaker 4: is with us. I want to introduce George bb He's

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Speaker 4: the director of Grant's Strategy at the Quincy Institute and

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Speaker 4: author of amazing book I read, I think it was

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Speaker 4: last year came out called the Russia Trap.

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Speaker 2: Sir? What is the Russia Trap?

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Speaker 4: And how's this going to play into this historic summit

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Speaker 4: that's going to take place in our own Alaska on Friday?

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 5: Well, thanks Steve. I read the rest of Trap in

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Speaker 5: twenty nineteen, and I was warning about a collision course

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Speaker 5: that the United States and Russia were on that I

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Speaker 5: thought was going to end potentially in escalation into direct

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Speaker 5: military conflict, and I laid out the case for why

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Speaker 5: that was in train and what we needed to do

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Speaker 5: to avoid it. Unfortunately, I think a lot of the

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Speaker 5: things that I said were going to lead toward this

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Speaker 5: with real dangers of escalation into nuclear weapons use. And

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Speaker 5: I think, to his great credit, President Trump has said,

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Speaker 5: you know, we can't continue on that path. We're going

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Speaker 5: to have to find a way to settle the war

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Speaker 5: in Ukraine and to put the US Russian relationship on

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Speaker 5: a much safer path than it has been on it.

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Speaker 5: And he's doing that, and I think I'm hopeful that

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Speaker 5: this meeting in Alaska will put the conflict in Ukraine

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Speaker 5: it is possible to come up with a framework agreement

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Speaker 5: in Alaska. That will be a path toward an ultimate

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Speaker 5: chances for Trump's success are relatively significant in all of that,

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Speaker 5: and that's a major accomplishment and of itself.

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Speaker 4: What do you Zelenski's clearly not going to be invited.

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Speaker 4: The Europeans are meeting, They're going to have their say.

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Speaker 4: So when you talk about framework, what is your what

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Speaker 4: is your best guess right now of what the optimum

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Speaker 4: framework is for the bide lateral relationships of the United

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Speaker 4: States in Russia, because that's what we care about. You know,

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Speaker 4: we've been defending the Europeans, and like I say about

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Speaker 4: World War Two, virtually none of the nations in NATO,

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Speaker 4: That our real ally were not the Bolsheviks and some

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Speaker 4: the Nazi leadership, but.

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Speaker 2: There are people.

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Speaker 4: So what framework do you think is the optimum for

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Speaker 4: a bilateral beginning of a rough prochement between the United

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the biggest issue in the relationship between

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Speaker 5: Cold War has been the shape of Europe's security order.

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Speaker 5: You know, the United States essentially said, Okay, we've ended

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Speaker 5: a new era. And we very quickly said, you know,

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Speaker 5: NATO is going to be the organization that has overarching

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Speaker 5: you know, we're not going to talk about that. That's

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Speaker 5: settle this matter on the battlefield. We can exercise a

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Speaker 5: Ukraine is part of it. Settling the war in Ukraine

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Speaker 5: on a compromise basis is a big part of addressing

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Speaker 5: this bigger issue, but it doesn't by itself solve all

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Speaker 5: the issues. They have to be addressed. We have to

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Speaker 5: look at arms control, we have to look at confidence

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Speaker 5: and security measures in Europe. We need to recognize that

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Speaker 5: Russia has to have a voice in European security issues

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Speaker 5: that directly affect Russia's course security concerns. So I think

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Speaker 5: that is something that has to be addressed in a framework.

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Speaker 5: We have to put the conflict in Ukraine on a

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Speaker 5: the United States have to be negotiating over these. That's

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Speaker 5: going to take a while, but I think acknowledging in

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Speaker 5: that helps the United States and it's broader geopolitical issues.

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Speaker 5: It disincentivizes a close security relationship between Russia and China,

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Speaker 5: certainly continue to have extensive economic and political interactions as

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Speaker 5: normal countries do, but it doesn't incentivize them to cooperate

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Speaker 4: I mean, when you look at it, though, I remember

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Speaker 4: Nine percent of the German population wants to defend their country.

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Speaker 4: And in addition, they don't want to pay for anything.

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Speaker 4: They want the Americans to pay for it.

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Speaker 5: Sir No, I think that's exactly right. Russians were fighting

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Speaker 5: One country. Their military officers knew Ukraine. It's territory, it's terrain,

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Speaker 4: That's the trap, George, Where do people get you at

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Speaker 6: Sir, We've been talking about long time how much the

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Speaker 4: Are you going to the comy situation that will break

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Speaker 6: We're working on it right now. Hopefully have that out

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Speaker 6: And we've got a lot more stuff coming ahead, Steve,

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Speaker 2: Wow, John, where do people get your content?

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Speaker 4: The show podcast asked all the different news sites, sir,

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Speaker 4: Great job, John, fantastic, Thank you so much. Look forward

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Speaker 4: to seeing you. Mar sounds good buddy.

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Speaker 2: Every day. I think you're getting another bombshell.

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Speaker 4: This also goes back to this Paul Ryan forcing Devin

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Speaker 4: Nuniisz to recuse himself and essentially shutting down Cash as

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Speaker 4: general counsel and Derek Carvey as chief investigator and essentially

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Speaker 4: turning the House Intelligence Committee on President Trump's first term

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Speaker 4: over to shift into Swallwell.

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Speaker 2: Swallwell, who we now.

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Speaker 4: Know was compromised by a Chinese Communist Party influence agent

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Speaker 4: of influence. This is the outrageous nature. This was how

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Speaker 4: it was fixed against President Trump. This thing's going to

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Speaker 4: get so nasty as the details come out. Jim Records,

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Speaker 4: We've got about a minute. I'm gonna hold you through, brother,

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Speaker 4: your sense of where this investigation is going and how

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Speaker 4: deep and how sortid it is, sir, well A.

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Speaker 9: Great job by John Salomon.

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Speaker 11: Now John made the point there's a five year statute

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Speaker 11: it's knowing and willful, et cetera. That's a very powerful point,

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Speaker 11: but that is not the only way to extend the

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Speaker 11: Statute of limitations.

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Speaker 9: That's one way, an important way.

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Speaker 11: But if there's a conspiracy, the question is when do

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Speaker 11: you start the statue of limitation is leave aside whether

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Speaker 11: it's five years or seven years or ten years. When

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Speaker 11: do you start the clock In a conspiracy? You started

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Speaker 11: from the last act, not the first act. So the

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Speaker 11: first act may have been in twenty sixteen, in twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 11: but if they were still conspiring and taking actions and

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Speaker 11: having conversations, etc. In furtherance of that as late as

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Speaker 11: more recently, then you know, throw five years on top

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Speaker 11: don't think statue limitations is going to be much of

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Speaker 11: a problem on these prosecutions.

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Speaker 4: Jim Hanger for a second, we'll get your take on

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Speaker 4: the Russia trap in the summit that we're going to have.

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Speaker 2: Here's your Stephen K.

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Speaker 4: Ban So, Jim Recerts, give me an assessment on the run

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Speaker 4: up to Alaska and this summit with everything. John Solomon's

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Speaker 4: showing daily and other reports are coming out about this conspiracy,

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Speaker 4: a seditious conspiracy against President Trump. President Trump said you

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Speaker 4: say the press confidence. Hey, it's kind of a sign

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Speaker 4: of weakness. We have a capital that's out of control

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Speaker 4: with crime and degeneracy, but he's stepping in to take

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Speaker 4: action of that. Where do you think we said and

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Speaker 4: what are the things the audience should be looking for

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Speaker 4: as we run up to the meeting on Friday in Alaska?

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Speaker 2: Sir?

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Speaker 11: The one we already mentioned, Steve, is that this is

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Speaker 11: much broader than Ukraine. It involves basically all the security

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Speaker 11: arrangements for Europe undoing or at least going beyond what

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Speaker 11: was set up at the end of World War Two.

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Speaker 11: The Russians, the Soviets at the time disbanded the Warsaw Pack,

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Speaker 11: but we never disbanded NATO. We don't know how many

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Speaker 11: Americans understand Article five in NATO says, you know, an

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Speaker 11: attack on one members an attack on all.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So but what does that mean?

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Speaker 11: So if Russia has some kind of attack on Estonia,

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Speaker 11: and I'm not expecting that, it's not a forecast, but

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Speaker 11: we we the United States, are involved in a nuclear

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Speaker 11: war with Russia because of a little corner of Estonia.

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Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I wish the Estonians well, but

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Speaker 11: I don't think Americans understand what this expansion of NATO

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Speaker 11: means to us in terms of security against nuclear attacks.

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Speaker 9: I agree completely with George Baby and you made the point.

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Speaker 11: You know, it's an interesting debate what the Russians could do.

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Speaker 11: You know, there's no anti missile defense against the Russtic missile.

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Speaker 11: They go ten thousand miles an hour. But it's the

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Speaker 11: question is what do they want to do? And you

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Speaker 11: and Georgie got that right. Basically, they want eastern Ukraine

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Speaker 11: and they're going to get it food and will not

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Speaker 11: agree to an unconditional Ceasepark, why should he He's winning.

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Speaker 9: People say this is Stellian, This is not Estella.

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Speaker 11: The Russians have been methodically surrounding Barktlorosk, which is the

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Speaker 11: major logistics of it. When they take per close and

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Speaker 11: they're close to doing it, the entire logistics, your rail lines, roads,

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Speaker 11: access supplies, et cetera for the Ukrainian Eastern Front will

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Speaker 11: Russians and the Niper rivers. So so, and by the way,

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Speaker 11: the Ukrainians have lied about everything. So if you gave

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Speaker 11: them a ceasefire, what would they do? They are and

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Speaker 11: r for their troops. They would restock weapons, it is

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Speaker 11: for more money. They wouldn't use the ceasefire in good

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Speaker 11: faith to settle the conflict. They we just use it

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Speaker 11: to basically replenish their arsenals and keep fighting. And you know,

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Speaker 11: the Russians and NATO where the United States and others

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Speaker 11: we walked away from Minsk one Mince two, we had

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Speaker 11: the Midon Kudi in twenty fourteen. Everything in the United

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Speaker 11: States and its allies have done has been betrayal the

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Speaker 11: Russians and Putin even wore it for two or three

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Speaker 11: lives and then finally said, you know, I'm tired of

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Speaker 11: the lies, but we're just going to take action.

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Speaker 9: We're going to keep doing it.

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Speaker 11: So I hope that Putin and Trump, you know, we

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Speaker 11: build they have an existing relationship. I hope they can

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Speaker 11: rebuild that. A lot of good that could come out

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Speaker 11: of it. But I wouldn't look for any breakthrough Winding

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Speaker 11: crane one. A quick note, Steve, there's a connection to

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Speaker 11: China here, a big one, because we're in the middle

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Speaker 11: of this trade negotiation with China. Trump just extended that

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Speaker 11: I forget thirty or fifty days or whatever they were debating.

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Speaker 11: You know, we have ten thirty We have thirty percent

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Speaker 11: tariffs on them, they have ten on us. They were

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Speaker 11: talking about taking that to one hundred and forty whatever.

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Speaker 11: But China will not agree to a deal until we

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Speaker 11: sort things out with Russia, because Trump has said, if

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Speaker 11: I can't get a ceasfar with Russia, I'm going to

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Speaker 11: put secondary sanctions on China because they're doing business with Russia.

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Speaker 11: Why should China agree to anything if there's this hammer

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Speaker 11: your sorta hanging over their heads. So so they want

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Speaker 11: so what Trump did? He bought time with China so

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Speaker 11: he could talk to Putin, But he's not going to

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Speaker 11: get what he wants from Putin. And so I think

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Speaker 11: Trump is painting himself into a corner on tariffs and

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Speaker 11: ceasefire because he's listening to the warmongers.

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Speaker 4: By the way, you talk about that, the same great

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Speaker 4: powers geopolitical issues still faces today the face Richard Nixon

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Speaker 4: back in the early nineteen seventies when Richard Nixon did

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Speaker 4: the rough prochemode with the Chinese Commanist Party and laid

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Speaker 4: the predicate for Ronald Reagan later to bring down and

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Speaker 4: destroy the Evil Empire. Let's go and play We've got

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Speaker 4: an amazing film and two great people here to talk about.

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Speaker 4: Let's go and play the trailer and I'll bring in

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Speaker 4: Jeff Sheppard and Michael Patrick Lee.

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Speaker 10: Forty nine states, five hundred and twenty Electoral College votes,

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Speaker 10: the largest presidential landslide in American history, but less than

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Speaker 10: halfway through his term in office, Richard Nixon secret meetings

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Speaker 10: between judges and prosecutors, evidence hidden from defense attorneys, bias, juries,

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Speaker 10: and unaccountable prosecution force packed with political enemies, Congressional leaders

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Speaker 10: who are out to get the president, and a dishonest media.

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Speaker 10: All told, a corrupt judiciary, unaccountable prosecutors, and an overreaching

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Speaker 10: Congress violated the due process rights of Richard Nixon and

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Speaker 10: the Watergate defendants more than a dozen times. We will

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Speaker 10: document all those due process violations, something that no one

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Speaker 10: else has ever done over the course of more than

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Speaker 10: half a century. This is how the deep state took

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Speaker 10: down a president and created the playbook they've used ever since.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Michael Patrick, Leahy, and Jeff Shepherd join us now.

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Speaker 4: You can watch this hour and thirty minutes. I think

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Speaker 4: it is amazing nonfiction film. Lay let me start with you,

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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna get to Jeff. We've had Jeff on

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Speaker 4: a bunch of times. The conventional wisdom is that the CIA,

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Speaker 4: the FBI, Woodward and Bernstein, the Washington Post, you know,

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Speaker 4: look at actually how the deep state actually did it

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Speaker 4: and actually took down Nixon. And what's so haunting about

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Speaker 4: this and the reason we're so proud to put it

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Speaker 4: up for two weeks only.

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Speaker 2: For free to the War and Posse.

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Speaker 4: It really, I think since chills down to your spine

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Speaker 4: about how close this is to what they're trying to

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Speaker 4: do to President Trump right now with this radical judiciary.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts, sir.

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Speaker 10: It's a playbook, Steve that worked in nineteen seventy two,

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Speaker 10: seventy three, seventy four against Richard Nixon, but it was

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Speaker 10: a very different world then. It's the same playbook that

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Speaker 10: they're trying to use against Donald Trump. It's failed, but

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Speaker 10: we document the due process violations. It's the first time

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Speaker 10: anyone has ever put together what we call it the

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Speaker 10: dirty US and due process violations that violated the Fifth

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Speaker 10: and sixth Amendment rights of Richard Nixon and all the

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Speaker 10: Watergate defendants. And the reason we were able to do

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Speaker 10: this is because I interviewed Jeff Shepherd, who had worked

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Speaker 10: in the Nixon white House, back in April of last year,

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Speaker 10: and when he revealed all this to me, I said,

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Speaker 10: I said to him, Jeff, can you document put all

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Speaker 10: this in a list and let's do Let's do a

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Speaker 10: documentary on this. And he provided all the evidence. So

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Speaker 10: I give all the credit to Jeff Shepherd for working

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Speaker 10: in the Nixon white House and having basically the receipts

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Speaker 10: on these due process violations.

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Speaker 4: Jeff, when you say the due process violation for those

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Speaker 4: of us, not the lawyers, that seems it is the

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Speaker 4: way they did it.

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Speaker 2: It's a little refined.

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Speaker 4: But what you bring up and in the film is that

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Speaker 4: you had Leon Dreworski, who's a quite controversial figure and

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Speaker 4: actually links back to the Warrant Commission. Right, you have Djuwarski,

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Speaker 4: you have the house, you have House Judiciary, they're having meetings,

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Speaker 4: they have a blueprint. You exposed all this by going

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Speaker 4: into the archives because you were there as a young man,

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Speaker 4: and I guess you figured something was not right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: the way you connect the dots here between Judge si Rico,

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Speaker 4: who's presented as a hero, the House Judiciary Committee, how

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Speaker 4: they work together with the Justice Department. This is why

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Speaker 4: post Watergate, the Justice Department was kind of hermetically sealed,

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Speaker 4: because these radicals could essentially control the legal process of

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Speaker 4: the country. I mean, how did you go How many

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Speaker 4: years did it take you to compile all this to

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Speaker 4: show us that this was a vast conspiracy, a vast

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Speaker 4: legal conspiracy against President Nixon.

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Speaker 8: Well, I've been at this for twenty years. Of course,

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Speaker 8: I lived through it fifty years ago. I was the

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Speaker 8: youngest lawyer on President Nexon's Watergate defense team, and it

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Speaker 8: ended badly. We suspected things weren't going as the shild good.

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Speaker 8: But I started really looking into it about twenty years

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Speaker 8: ago when I discovered that the Watergate Special Prosecution Force

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Speaker 8: And I've really been through this and uncovered an incredible

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Speaker 8: all the Watergate prosecutors, the politically recruited and appointed Watergate

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Speaker 8: grant you you go off in the weeds, because this

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Speaker 8: this gets really deep. But what I was able to

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Speaker 8: was to isolate twelve of the most important due process

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Speaker 8: he did a brilliant job of making this understandable. One

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Speaker 8: Michael has done. It really is a superb job in

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Speaker 8: focusing just on due process. You know, we use the term.

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Speaker 8: It's bandied about. Everybody wants to due process. It's in

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Speaker 5: Or the other.

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Speaker 8: You get even handed, nonpartisan prosecutors who don't invent new

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Speaker 8: these things, absolutely none. We picked out Michael and I

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Speaker 8: I think I understand that one. I didn't realize that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff, Jeff hanging for a second. Hold you guys,

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Speaker 4: This was the blueprint for coming after President Trump. Short

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Speaker 10: Secret meetings between judges and psecutors, evidence hidden from defense attorneys,

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Speaker 4: We're going to have another reveal on this. The guys

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Speaker 4: social media? Where do people go and get you, sir?

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Speaker 4: In your radio show?

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Speaker 10: The radio show is Michael Patrick Lahy dot com. The

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Speaker 10: very best way to get the latest on this is

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Speaker 10: go to my ex account, Michael Plahy.

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Speaker 2: Michael Play will be.

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Speaker 10: Putting clips out and also for your information, clips of

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Speaker 2: Wow, wow, amazing Jeff Shepherd.

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Speaker 4: You are just an American patriot and a hero, sir

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Speaker 4: for doing this work over this many years. Where do

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Speaker 4: people go on your social media get you, sir? And

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Speaker 4: where they get your books?

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Speaker 2: Well, they want to go to my website.

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Speaker 8: All the books, all the publications, all the documents, They're

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Speaker 8: right out there on my website, reproduced www. Shepherd on

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Speaker 8: watergate dot com. Shepherd on watergate dot com. You see,

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Speaker 8: everything got to have a lot of time, It gets

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Speaker 8: very very deep in the weeds, but every document is

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Speaker 2: Thank you, brother.

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Speaker 4: No people want the receipts because this illuminates what is

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Speaker 4: It's been incredible way till you get this film. Though,

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Speaker 4: You are also you're also a lawyer. Give me your

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Speaker 4: thoughts here, brother, and thoughts on the coming week. We're

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Speaker 2: Your observation, sir.

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Speaker 9: Well, the film it sounds great. I'll have a chance

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Speaker 9: to watch it tonight.

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Speaker 11: I'd like to add a kind of a poignant footnote

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Speaker 11: to everything they talked about. So, Jeff and Michael, we're

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Speaker 11: talking about due process, fifth Amendment, fourteenth Amendment in some cases. Absolutely,

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Speaker 11: that's a great template. Well, let's go deeper. Let's talk

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Speaker 11: about Article two. Because four years after Nixon resigned, it

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Speaker 11: he did an interview with David Frost, and of course

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Speaker 11: everybody wanted to hear Nixon's oh, yeah, I really did

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Speaker 11: about a lot else.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't all about Watergate.

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Speaker 11: But in the end Nixon got around to saying, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 11: and everyone's like, aeah, there goes Nixon again. He's rationalizing,

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Speaker 9: But now flash.

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Speaker 11: Forward forty seven years twenty twenty four, Trump versus United

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Speaker 11: States at the Supreme Court. What did the Supreme Court say?

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Speaker 11: They said, when the president does it, it's not illegal. Now,

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Speaker 11: I had to be cordual these there were a couple,

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Speaker 11: you know, guardrails around it. It's but it basically confirmed

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Speaker 11: due process, although due processes included. Nixon was right, it

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Speaker 11: validated that. By the way, when Supreme Couraer gave that opinion,

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Speaker 11: is what the Constitution said in seventeen eighty nine.

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Speaker 9: So as I said, Nixon was right, didn't do much good.

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Speaker 11: But I would keep that in mind through all of

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Speaker 11: this because it really isn't profound and some mud point

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Speaker 4: Records. Where do people go to get to records worom

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