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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works

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Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark,

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Speaker 1: the Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry the Stuff

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Speaker 1: you Should Know herb. Have you ever heard a tupper

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Speaker 1: Warrior burp? Yeah, sort of, I mean it, you know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like a burb. It's just sort of like,

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Speaker 1: can you emulate one? Well, it's just like a like

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Speaker 1: air just sort of it's like a burb. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like a dude, yeah, something different. Yeah, but I don't

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Speaker 1: think you could call it a Tupperware bart because it

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Speaker 1: probably wouldn't sell us. Well, even a burp is a

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Speaker 1: little you know. Okay, So I guess I have heard

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Speaker 1: one before when I was a kid, but I thought

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Speaker 1: like there was like a burb or something like that,

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Speaker 1: or do you remember that cartoon. It might have been like,

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Speaker 1: h what was the Droopy I think it might have

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Speaker 1: been a droopy cartoon, So some sort of cartoon where

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Speaker 1: like they had a machine that burped radishes. But I

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Speaker 1: like it. It was a great I think it was

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Speaker 1: like the Kitchen of the Future, one great cartoon. Bert.

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Speaker 1: That's what I assumed the Tupperware thing was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a big droopy fans I thought I was

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Speaker 1: missing out. Nope, no, it's just a little air being expelled.

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Speaker 1: But it was a very very important bit of air,

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Speaker 1: because Chuck. At the time that Tupperware came out, women

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Speaker 1: were using like basically a pot that they cooked something in,

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Speaker 1: maybe a bowl, and putting a shower cap over it

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Speaker 1: and storing it in the ice box. You know what

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Speaker 1: they call that primitive? That's primitive food storage. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like a tuk tuk would have done something like that,

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Speaker 1: not men and women in the nineteen forties, except he

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Speaker 1: would have used like some sort of Madagascar type animal

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Speaker 1: pelt sure them from the movie Madagascar. No, not Madagascar.

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Speaker 1: I say, that's what I'm thinking of. I say, I

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Speaker 1: haven't seen it one. So they're very similar. It is

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Speaker 1: setting like different climbs in different time periods. I've never

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Speaker 1: seen me either, different animal protagonists. I just I can

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Speaker 1: get a lot from commercials. Yeah, uh so, yeah, Tupperware,

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Speaker 1: let's let's talk about it. Um, the original patent. I

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Speaker 1: love the name of this thing, and you know it

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Speaker 1: was created. You want to drop this cool little fact

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Speaker 1: by the name the name of the guy Earl Tupper.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I never knew that. Yeah, I guess I didn't either.

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Speaker 1: I didn't didn't think about it. No, you think of

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Speaker 1: tupper war is nothing but tupper ware, and there's no

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Speaker 1: Tupper who invented It's crazy talk, right, Yeah, No, there

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Speaker 1: was a tupper named Earl and that tupper tup tupperware. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Earl of Tupper he Uh he has a patent

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Speaker 1: um call it. Well had he didn't have it anymore. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The e s tupper open mouth container and non snap

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Speaker 1: type of closure. Therefore this by the way, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: why I read it like that. But I was explaining

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Speaker 1: that to the everybody else. Do they know me? This

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Speaker 1: is going poorly? No, it's not so. Um. Let's you

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Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit about Tupper himself. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He Um was a bit of a reclusive figure, as

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Speaker 1: we'll find, but he was also like a he was

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Speaker 1: a pretty sharp guy. I A grouch, I think is

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Speaker 1: a possible way to describe him. Maybe a bit of

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Speaker 1: a mad, smart, tinkering grouch. Um. He disliked his father

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Speaker 1: because he felt his father lacked ambition. And this is

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Speaker 1: when he was like ten. Right, Um, all you do

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Speaker 1: is just go to the races and lay around het. Well,

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Speaker 1: his parents owned a like a farm of sorts, but

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Speaker 1: I think I get the idea. It was like kind

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Speaker 1: of a harvest your own farm. And this kid, little

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Speaker 1: Earl Tupper, when he was like ten twelve, he was

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Speaker 1: like pitching the idea to to build like a children's

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Speaker 1: for you know, to at track tourists and stuff. And

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Speaker 1: his I was like, it sounds like a lot of work, totally,

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Speaker 1: And Arrow was like, you're gonna pay for ignoring me.

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Speaker 1: But he he was of sharp contrast to his father,

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Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to say. He was very ambitious.

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Speaker 1: Big Tinker came up with a lot of different patent

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Speaker 1: ideas and apparently patents too. Yeah he Uh he had

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Speaker 1: a book of inventions. Uh. There was a better stocking guarter,

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Speaker 1: which is a very sexy thing for a child to admit, right. Um,

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Speaker 1: A better way to remove a burst appendix. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: This one of great import. Yeah, the customized cigarettes, I

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Speaker 1: can't believe that didn't catch on, like for real, you

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Speaker 1: now with names. Oh now I understand. Yeah, there were

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Speaker 1: cigarettes that said like Sporty or the collegiate on the cigarette,

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Speaker 1: so it would have like your sports team like emblazoned

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Speaker 1: give him give them away. He he ended up manufacturing

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Speaker 1: these things and giving them away is like premiums for

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Speaker 1: other stuff like cigarettes and things like that. Yeah. So, um,

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Speaker 1: he starts a tree uh doctor business, Tupper Tree Doctors

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Speaker 1: that um failed after um the depression, people were cutting

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Speaker 1: of business and in a very fortuitous move, went and

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Speaker 1: worked um for Visca Lloyd Plant, which is a division

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Speaker 1: of DuPont making plastics. Right, and this is where things

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Speaker 1: he gets into plastics and this town in Massachusetts that

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Speaker 1: he ended up in where the Vistalloid plant was, he

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Speaker 1: was all over New England basically growing up right, this

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Speaker 1: where like all of this stuff is going on in plastics,

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Speaker 1: all these little tiny plastic manufacturing outfits are, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like what all can we do with it? Yeah? And which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, plastic, especially polyethylene. Polyethylene was invented by accident,

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Speaker 1: perfected the polyethylene or had come out perfect, but they

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Speaker 1: hadn't figured out quite how to use it. And Earl

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Speaker 1: to mold them in the right shape, how to keep

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Speaker 1: uncut stuff, um, and he figures out how to make

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Speaker 1: Um then along with the design the the patented U

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Speaker 1: I guess we can do this with food, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like put food in here. It's sealed. Look at the demonstration.

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Speaker 1: It's upside down and I'm shaking it and there's none

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Speaker 1: not coming out. I can drop this bowl and it's

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Speaker 1: and you're basically preserving the food for many many days

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Speaker 1: people who were um homemakers in the forties and fifties,

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Speaker 1: plastic containers that are sold, they're they're not nearly the

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Speaker 1: quality of Tupperware. No tupper Warres started all that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and this stuff is garbage. The lids don't fit right ever,

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Speaker 1: they break, they don't, they don't do any thing that

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Speaker 1: more disposable thinking. You know, at the time it was like,

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Speaker 1: I think they still have a lifetime guarantees on everything. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Home Products and uh they called it the hostess group

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Speaker 1: demonstration plan and she was a great, great salesperson. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So these people at Stanley Home Products basically found tupperware

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Speaker 1: And she was selling so much of it that Earl

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Speaker 1: towing to him quite as much. Um, but I got

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Speaker 1: on great for a while. Yeah. And again he had

423
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: said to their PR department and to any media interviewer like, yes,

424
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 1: this lady is the face of Tupperware. Treater is such, promoter,

425
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: is such, And he, just like you said, ended up

426
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: getting jealous. Didn't like that she wasn't cows outing to

427
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: him any longer, and in night said, you're fired. Yeah.

428
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: He The story I read was that he wanted to

429
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Speaker 1: sell the company and cash in, and that he didn't

430
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Speaker 1: think and was advised that it would be really hard

431
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Speaker 1: to sell a company with a woman in such a

432
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Speaker 1: prominent position on the board. And so he, uh, like

433
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: you said, just unceremoniously get rid of her, gave her

434
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 1: one year salary. It was like thirty grands zero stock

435
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: that she had built almost from the ground up. Yeah,

436
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: or help build at least. And I gotta say that

437
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: was her you know, that was her mistake. She should

438
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Speaker 1: have gotten some stock along the way. Yeah, I guess.

439
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 1: You know, she's too busy selling And yeah, I mean exactly.

440
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Speaker 1: She was imagined thirty five grand a year was a

441
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: pretty good salary at the point. You want me to

442
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: look it up, I will, you can. So she got

443
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: that small pay out. She went UM and what he

444
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: said to her was is that there were some accounting

445
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 1: errors in the previous year. She wouldn't come to Massachusetts

446
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: to talk to him about it, and sort of dug

447
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: In says that she said that she had gotten sicker,

448
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: injured and couldn't leave Florida. He finally went down to

449
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: Florida UM and basically said that, you know, these jubilees

450
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 1: are too expensive. The landscaping you've done here in Florida,

451
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: the company headquarters is too expensive. You're spending too much

452
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: money on clothes. Uh. And we own all that stuff,

453
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: We own all your clothing. What well, I mean that's

454
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he actually took it, but he

455
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: basically was like, you know, she paid for all that

456
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: stuff through the company, as she should have, you know,

457
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: to keep up appearances. But um, yeah, that was it

458
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: for her. She started a small company called Cinderella Cosmetics

459
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: that folded after a year and sort of faded into obscurity.

460
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: Then um earl tupper Uh sold out that the next

461
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: year I think sixteen million. Yeah, he sells out for

462
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars. Nice cash. She wrecked all drug company,

463
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: which was eventually absorbed by Kraft, who apparently now owns Tupperware.

464
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 1: I think maybe it's the parent company. Um and yeah,

465
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: sixteen million in nineteen fifty eight. It's not too bad

466
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Speaker 1: for a boy who couldn't get his parents to build

467
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Speaker 1: a playground on the family pick your own whatever farm.

468
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,679
Speaker 1: Did you find out if she thirty five grand was

469
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: a good salary? Yeah? It wasn't bad. It was like

470
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: two hundred and I think thirty two thousand dollars back then. Yeah,

471
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: that's good. It's not bad. I mean especially for a executive. Yeah. Um.

472
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: But he sold the whole thing for sixteen million, gave

473
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: her one year salary, moved to Costa Rica, bought an island,

474
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: announced as US citizenships so they didn't have to pay

475
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: any taxes on that. Got divorced. Yeah right, and uh

476
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: said Siona, everybody, I'm going to Costa Rica to buy

477
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: an island and keep a note pad in my pocket.

478
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: So anytime an idea for a new invention hits, I'll

479
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Speaker 1: have it. Yeah. And just like probably you know, eight

480
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 1: pineapples on his island. Yeah. He died in three in

481
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Speaker 1: Costa Rica, Uh, seventy six, and she died in nineteen

482
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: and Um, tupperware has not gone out of fashion. It's

483
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: it's been featured uh starting in what year was it,

484
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Speaker 1: I guess when they first came out at the Museum

485
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Speaker 1: of Modern Art, and then again in two thousand eleven.

486
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Speaker 1: I think I even saw this exhibit. In fact, I'm

487
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: almost positive I did, because it was about just industrial

488
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: design and things, and there's Tupperware all over again because

489
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: of its gorgeous of course, now you know that fifties

490
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: era design. The original line that tupper released is called

491
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: the Millionaire line, and it came in six colors, five

492
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: pastels and one white, right, yellow, blue, green, orange, and pink.

493
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: And they're really pretty. Like if you look at a

494
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: set of these things in a good, good condition, they're gorgeous.

495
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: He went on to the Plastics Hall of Fame. Um

496
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: and now like this stuff from the fifties and sixties,

497
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: you can get some decent money on eBay for that stuff,

498
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, because it still works and people love that

499
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: retro look. Did you know that he refused refused to

500
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: have any um any pet bowls designed. He thought it

501
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: was Tupperware was too good for pets to eat out of.

502
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: What a jerk. See, I was all on board until that.

503
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: Actually I wasn't on board. I was off board when

504
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: I found out that he fired Brownie Wise. Yeah he

505
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: and then was like, okay, I've got some money. See

506
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: a later family. Yeah, moved to Costa Rica. Would you

507
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: be funny if he went down and started a cult

508
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: with the slinky guy. Um? So Tupperware stayed pretty much

509
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: the same until when they designer named Morrison Cousins basically

510
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of redesigned for for the new era. Yeah he

511
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: he was UM already a VP I guess that Tupperware

512
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: and he was. He decided that it was a little difficult.

513
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: He had an eighty two or eighty one year old

514
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: mother at the time eighty seven year old mother at

515
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: the time when he was charged with redesigning the Tupperware line,

516
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: and UM he from that viewpoint, he redesigned it to

517
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: make it easier for UM the aged to use. Right,

518
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 1: So like that burping lid that you had to like

519
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: really kind of have some decent hand strength to put on.

520
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: He figured out a way around it by UM using

521
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: flaps that opened and closed to release the air. Didn't

522
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: require quite as much hand strength. UM. The lids were

523
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: made in contrast and closure to the bowls, so if

524
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: you had a low visibility low vision not visibility, that's

525
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: totally different. If you were wearing all camouflage at the time,

526
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: you'd be able to find the lid and the bowl

527
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: that go together pretty easy. So he yea, he made

528
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: them easier for old books, yep. And he was the

529
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: guy who UM brought it online. He did a lot

530
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: of good stuff. Apparently with it, he also took the brand.

531
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: I thought this is cool, and I would love to

532
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: see this on video because I'll bet it's just so

533
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: bizarre and surreal to watch. They broadcast a series of

534
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: live Tupperware parties on some home shopping channel in the

535
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: early nineties. That was probably the first home shopping experience.

536
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: I think those were around in the eighties. I think

537
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 1: home shopping was already established. When did they do this

538
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: early nineties? Oh? I thought you said he did it

539
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: like in the sixties. No, no, no, got no, we

540
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: should do one on home shopping. I'll bet that has

541
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: an interesting, weird history. You think I'll look into you know? Okay,

542
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: my mom's into it, man. QBC. So did we talk

543
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: about how to throw a tupperware party? We did? We

544
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: sure did. Okay, did we talk about tupperware drag parties?

545
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: We did not. We should because there's more than one.

546
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: There's well, there's one person in particular, a guy named

547
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Chris Anderson, who performs in drag as Dixie Longate and

548
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: um sells like a million dollars worth of tupperware in

549
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: the process. Like he gets paid to perform like you

550
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: gotta pay forty bucks just to a person just to

551
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: have I guess he stole does house parties, but he

552
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: literally does like tours and does like off Broadway shows

553
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: and stuff now right, But the whole thing is I

554
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: mean real tupperware party where like you can buy tupperware,

555
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: and like he's demonstrating the tupperware. He's kind of giving

556
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: his own take on what it's useful for. But he's

557
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: not the only um drag show in the country selling tupperware,

558
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: of course, not apparently. Uh. A drag queen named Aunt

559
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: Barbara up in Long Island is was at least in

560
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: two twelve the number one salesperson in North America for tupperware.

561
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: It all makes sense when you think about it. So

562
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: two d and fifty grand worth of tupperware in one year.

563
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Like the kitch of the drag show the kitch of

564
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: tupperware parties, it all sort of goes hand in hand. Yes,

565
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: it does. And um I went to the website of

566
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: Dixie Longate and he has a pretty interesting bio. I

567
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: have three kids, Winona, Dwayne and Absorbing Junior. It's all

568
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: made up, I think, I think maybe, although you never know,

569
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, now he has solo stand up shows, um

570
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: and a recent theatrical show called Never Wear a Tube

571
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: Top while Riding a Mechanical bowl and sixteen other things

572
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: I learned while I was drinking last Thursday. And apparently

573
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: that is selling out venues. It's basically that's selling out venues.

574
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: We're not, but that is don't be better. We will

575
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: one day if we didn't dragging. Probably. Well, no, that's

576
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: not true either, one day chuck. Yeah. Uh wow, that's

577
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: a weird way to end us. Yeah, I think it's perfect. Um.

578
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: I thought I had something else, but I guess I don't. Oh,

579
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: yes I do. PBS did a great documentary called Tupperware

580
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: with an exclamation point. It's got a whole website on

581
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: online and you can watch parts of the documentary, if

582
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: not the whole thing. Yeah, and look for the Sandra

583
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: Bullock the Brownie Wise story coming to a theater near

584
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Speaker 1: you in a couple of years. Nice job, you said

585
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 1: a theater near you. A theater you just said coming

586
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: to a theater near you. That's like, Wow, did you

587
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Speaker 1: ever think you would grow up to say that like

588
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: in public? Sure? Okay, Well, if you want to know

589
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Speaker 1: more about tupper war. You can type that one word

590
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Speaker 1: and the search part how stuff works dot com? And uh,

591
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: since I said search parts time for listener mail. And

592
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: they call this the Strisand effect. Have you ever heard

593
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: of this? No, Hello, Josh, Chuck and Jerry really enjoyed

594
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Speaker 1: the podcast on Internet censorship, although I was disturbed that

595
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: s OP three oh three exists. Sure, one thing not

596
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: mentioned that I thought was relevant is when individuals attempt

597
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: to censor specific things from their own life and the

598
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: resulting fallout that occurs. In two thousand three, and I

599
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 1: remember what was happening. Actually, a picture of Barbra Streisand's

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Speaker 1: home in Malibu appeared in a publicly available collection of

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Speaker 1: over twelve thousand photos of California coastline. The collection was

602
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Speaker 1: documenting coastal erosion and not related to news paparazzi or

603
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Speaker 1: tabloids or anything like that. But Streisand's lawyers filed a

604
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Speaker 1: fifty million dollar lawsuit against the photographer, asking the picture

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Speaker 1: to be taken down for privacy reasons. Before stories of

606
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Speaker 1: the lawsuit hit the press, the photo of the home

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Speaker 1: had only been downloaded six times, two of which were

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Speaker 1: by her attorneys. During the following month. After the whole

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Speaker 1: thing became a news story. More than four hundred thousand

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Speaker 1: people visited the website. Uh, they even coined the term

611
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Speaker 1: the streisand effect were an attempt to hand for her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it did. I remember this blew up in her face.

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Speaker 1: An attempt at censoring or removing something from the Internet

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Speaker 1: results and said thing being seen and reported on much

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Speaker 1: more than if the person requesting it be removed it

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Speaker 1: simply let it fade into obscurity. Thanks for the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Also possibly a shout out to my wife Emily, who

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Speaker 1: is nearly as addicted to stuff you should know as

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Speaker 1: I am nearly And that is from Brinton Krausse in

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Speaker 1: uh mid Hudson Valley, New York, USA. So Emily and

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Speaker 1: get on it so you're equally as addicted. And thank

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Speaker 1: you Britton for being fully addicted. Yeah to the brim.

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Speaker 1: I guess Uh. If you want to get in touch

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