1 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: It looks so pretty, So do you thank you? I 2 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: just came from the gym. 3 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: This is a very very weird timely situation that I'll explain. 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: But I literally just came from the gym here. But 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: I haven't gone to a gym except for like maybe 6 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: like one time occasionally in. 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: Thirty years, I mean literally thirty years. 8 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: What do you do for working out or what do 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: you do to include movement in your erae? 10 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: So this is Sonata and you are a trainer fitness expert, 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:44,639 Speaker 2: and we're going to get into a conversation. 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: I just yes. 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: What I usually do is it's such an interesting question. 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: I walk. That's all I do. 15 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: I walk on the beach or I walk on the street, 16 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: and I don't do it all the time, and I 17 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: always come back to it. 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: There are periods when I'll do yoga a lot. I haven't. 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: I'm not in that period right now that I've been 20 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: doing yoga for easily thirty years. So it's the type 21 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: of thing that I might do three four days in 22 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: a row and then not do for a while. And 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 2: that's kind of how I do everything. Like if I 24 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: go somewhere, I'll go snowboarding every day and then I 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: will take a month off sometimes if I'm exhausted and 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: I'm just sleeping. 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: I always prioritize sleep. 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: So my people always think that I work out all 29 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: the time because of Sports Illustrated and because I'm in 30 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: I look like I'm in good shape. Good I know, 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: And I had a debate with Tracy Anderson years ago 32 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 2: about it, and then people are like, it's only genetics. 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: But years ago, I was like twenty five pounds heavier 34 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: and was always always on a quote unquote diet and 35 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: working out. So like, I think this is an interesting 36 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 2: conversation that we should have. Anyway, because my doctor did 37 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 2: my testing and he was like, you have very low 38 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: body fat and also a lot of muscle mass, and 39 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, how the fuck. So anyway, today is the 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: day because I was out at a football game and 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: Lauren Sanchez was like, you need to be doing weights 42 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: for your bone density and because at six days it's 43 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: gonna be harder to catch up. And so today is 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: the first day I went to a trainer. 45 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: I just amazing, amazing, So I'm. 46 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: Glad I'm talking to you. It's so weird that like awesome, 47 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 2: this is so okay. So you are you started out 48 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 2: as a personal trainer or what's your background. 49 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: Oh, it's more than that. But I'm glad that you 50 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: started strength training because you know, maybe I don't know 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: if your doctor let any any tests when it comes 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: to your like your bone density and how that is, 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 3: because it's more than just muscle mass. Like sure, the 54 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 3: muscle mass could be their relative to your body weight 55 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 3: and relative to your body fed percentage and all of that, 56 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: but when you look at like the whole picture, like 57 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 3: your muscle mass and your bone density and where is that, 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 3: and you might be good, but. 59 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get getting the bone density test. I don't 60 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 2: know if I did that. And your Albanian. 61 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 3: I am Albanian born, you are okay. 62 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: So I have worked with so many different Albanians that 63 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 2: I like feel like I am Albanian. 64 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: I love. 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous to make a blanket statement about people from 66 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: a country, but from my perspective, I live for Albanians. 67 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: It's just like a tough, loyal, hardworking, not sensitive group 68 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 2: of people. From what I've met, from the people that 69 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: I've worked with, it's like badass and not, like I said, 70 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: maybe slightly sensitive but not really but like I know, 71 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: fun and funny, but there's like a V. 72 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just worked. 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: I've had amazing experiences working with Albanians from so many 74 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: different industries. 75 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: I love that. I actually was talking to my sisters 76 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 3: and my mom. My mom was like, yeah, that then 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 3: he loves Albanians. 78 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: She said that, yeah she did, she did. 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 3: But yes, I was born in Albania and I started, 80 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, because again Albanians and people that are not 81 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: in such advanced countries always value education. So education was 82 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: I was pushed into excelling in education and I got 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 3: my MBA. In three years, I graduated suna cum laude, 84 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: you know, highest honors. I started in the financial industry. 85 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: I was a senior analyst for a while. It was 86 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 3: just and then I went into pharmaceuticals and I just 87 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: wasn't happy into sales and it wasn't my calling, so 88 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,919 Speaker 3: to speak. I had gone through growing up, going through 89 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: my teenage years, I'd gone through anorexia and I came 90 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 3: with a depression and anxiety and probably some of it, 91 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 3: you know, who knows, genetic, but a lot of it, 92 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: I think coming into a new country, with being bullied 93 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 3: a little bit for being different and not speaking the 94 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: language perfectly. So I think that all where did you 95 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 3: stay in New York? I'm stay in New York, Okay. 96 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 3: So it's part of shock, you know, going from like 97 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: a small town and albeing network you walk everywhere, to 98 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: now being upstate New York where you couldn't you know 99 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 3: as a kid, fifteen year old kid. 100 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: It's very secluded. 101 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 3: Secluded exactly. So when I when we first visited the Bronx, 102 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: I was like, I want to move to the Bronx. 103 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: This is amazing. You know, there's people everywhere, there's walkability. 104 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: But anyway, so getting into fitness, strength training and working 105 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 3: out helped me overcome some of those issues, specifically strength training, 106 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: because I was working out when I was dealing with 107 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: my issues, but it was working out to stay skinny 108 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: and to stay then to fit in basically. But when 109 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 3: I did step into strength training and saw what my 110 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: body now could do and saw that I could, instead 111 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 3: of lacking the nourishment to shrink it now nourishing to 112 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 3: actually gain muscle and gain strength, So that that personally 113 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: helped me so much in my journey, so that I 114 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: decided to share what I knew and what I did 115 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 3: with anybody that would have me. I started to share 116 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: all of it, and you know, people. 117 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Found where we Where were you living at this time? 118 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,679 Speaker 3: At this time when I started sharing on social media, 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: all of my workouts were in Washington, d C. I've 120 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: moved in different places, and this was only in twenty nineteen. 121 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 2: So you were living in You started social media in 122 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 2: twenty nineteen sharing your workout in DC and you were 123 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 2: at a gym, you were working for private clients or so. 124 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 3: I was working actually in diagnostics, diagnostics sales. I'd moved 125 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: away from like the financial analysts, and so doing the 126 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: diagnostics aspect of it as a primary job and then 127 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: doing like classes. It started New York actually, when I 128 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 3: was doing some group classes as like just something fun 129 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 3: to do after work, nothing as inside inside a hustle, 130 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: exactly a passion which I was truly passionate about. I 131 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 3: had gone also got my certifications, went to India. I 132 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: got my yoga teacher training certification. So I was doing 133 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: a little bit of both strength training and yoga. And 134 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 3: then in DC I decided that, you know, I just 135 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,559 Speaker 3: couldn't do it anymore. Leading kind of like this double 136 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 3: life of doing the corporate world and what I was ill. 137 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 3: It was all crush crushing, but I knew that I 138 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: couldn't just quit everything, so I decided to start posting 139 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 3: what I found helpful, Like every day in the morning, 140 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: I'll wake up at five in the morning, get my 141 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: workout was done, film, and then go to my day 142 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 3: job post do all of the things that needed to 143 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: be done. And because I was so consistent and so 144 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: I didn't ask for anything in return, I just provided 145 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: a lot of useful information, useful workouts that people just 146 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: could go to my page and get all of what 147 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 3: they needed. And did that for a while, and then 148 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: that shifted into okay, now I'd like to put this 149 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: into programs for people. And that was during COVID. We 150 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: had filmed everything in the gym before that, and then 151 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: COVID had and we're like, okay, we have to transition. Now. 152 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: It was we built h we started to build a program. 153 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: I start. I partnered with a company that kind of 154 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 3: had the technology to do that, and you know, I 155 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: had everything else. I had a social media presence at 156 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: the knowledge. So we put programs together to satisfy the 157 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 3: needs of people now working out at home. And also 158 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: that correlated to making all social media posts about working 159 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 3: out at home. And I think there was another huge 160 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: uptake in following because everybody now was like looking for 161 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: something to do, and especially trying not to go crazy 162 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 3: during those times and stay active perhaps and find some 163 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: sort of release. 164 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: And you were still in DC at that time. 165 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: I was still in DC at that time still. 166 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 2: And it's funny because Hodah, I don't know if you know. 167 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: Hoda copy from the Today Show. She wrote in her 168 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: book and quoted me about my perspective on the side hustle. 169 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: How I've always told people to you can't obviously leave 170 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: your your retirement fund and your four one K, but 171 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: you could start slowly, like doing the thing you love slowly, 172 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 2: and then increase it and then hopefully you'll start making 173 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: money and then you can abandon the original thing. And 174 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 2: that seems like what you did. So when did you 175 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: abandon your day job? 176 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: Once I saw that the program started to gain traction 177 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 3: and we had a really great number of sign ups, 178 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: this started as like an online program. I hadn't had 179 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: an I didn't have an app yet now we have 180 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: an app. So once I saw that that just took off, 181 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: I called my job. It was like, this is it? 182 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: I was in April of twenty twenty. Yeah, April of 183 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, so. 184 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: That was pre that was pre pandemic, right, or that. 185 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 3: It was twenty twenty, okay? 186 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 2: And do you feel because there were many parts about 187 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 2: my life that the pandemic saved, even though that's not 188 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: a popular thing to say because obviously a lot of 189 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: people died and got sick and it was a challenging time. 190 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 2: But for me, there were some things that really were 191 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: life changing from a personal perspective with this divorce I 192 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 2: was going through, from the social media and me just 193 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 2: playing around, Like you feel like the pandemic changed your life. 194 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: From a business perspective, I think it would have. 195 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 3: It would have happened anyway. Maybe I propelled it a 196 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 3: little bit because now you know, again when everybody's just 197 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: isolated and stayed indoors and couldn't go to the gym, 198 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: now they could just follow me on Instagram and do 199 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: their workouts from home. Because I utilize how the slide sliders, 200 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 3: you know, it's use water bottles, it's like little weights 201 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 3: that anything that was like super creative and that gained 202 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 3: a lot of traction. So sure did I get a 203 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: boost from that, But I think my trajectory was on 204 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: the okay, on the upward, and I started the plans 205 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: of introducing programs before COVID hit, so it would have 206 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: gone there. Just that kind of propelled so's. Yeah. But yeah, 207 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 3: as it was awful. My dad spent five weeks on 208 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 3: his stomach almost like escaped intubation by by the skin 209 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 3: of his teeth. Yeah. Yeah, so I know firsthand like 210 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: the impact that it did have on people. But like 211 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: you said, for some people it did have. 212 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: It was a shift. 213 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: It to go down in history is like the Industrial Revolution, 214 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 2: like it changed the world in way is crazy. 215 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: I mean so many people found like they're leaned into 216 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 3: their passions during that time. I think so many people 217 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 3: there's yes, exactly developed those passions and they understood that 218 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: now you don't have to go to the office every 219 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 3: single day to be productive. Now. 220 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: No, it's crazy that I lean I mean I have 221 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 2: an entire staff. It doesn't even live here. When I'm 222 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 2: in Florida And where are you now? 223 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: Where do you live? 224 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the same. I am right now Santa Monica 225 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 3: and by coastal so I'll go to Miami and New 226 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: York a lot, but a lot of my team is 227 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: in Florida, and we have people in the UK. 228 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: And but you have homes in LA and where else? 229 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: Miami? 230 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: Oh you are, I'm in my Oh, okay, where you are? Okay? 231 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: Great, I'm in Miami too. Yeah, And so how much? 232 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: What percentage of time are you in LA and my 233 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: and Miami. 234 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 3: It's fluctuated, but I try to keep a balance of both. 235 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 3: It's I guess it's wherever. I'm kind of also needed. 236 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 3: I'm always traveling. 237 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: So you're training, yeah, and your app is called we Rise, 238 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 2: So that's the business and you put into that. But 239 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: like your your training celebrities or getting people ready for movies? 240 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: What's your like? 241 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, right now I'm training Kim Kardashian. That's one of 242 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 3: the reasons why I've spent so much time in LA. 243 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: She's the reason why I kind of moved to this area. 244 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 3: But I know, I love it. I love the community here. 245 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 3: I just love the pace of life is just a 246 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 3: little bit different than East Coast, but I appreciate both, 247 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 3: you know, having spent most of my life on the 248 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: East Coast. 249 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 2: And so you know, Kim Kardashian is a beautiful woman 250 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 2: who has a good start in being in shape and 251 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: seems like she's always been conscientious about. 252 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: Health and her body. 253 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: What's the connection, Like, what's the strategy, Like, as a 254 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: woman who today went to the gym for the first 255 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 2: time and I'm turning fifty five on Tuesday, what is 256 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: your strategy when you're dealing with women? And how long 257 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: are you suggesting or training and like what's realistic and accessible? 258 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Because for me, I went today which included ten minutes 259 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 2: of stretching for forty minutes only because for me, I 260 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: don't want to do something. I want to do it 261 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: so I like it, so you could and this is 262 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: sort of my reasoning. I think this is one of 263 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: the reasons I think I'm in shape because I don't 264 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 2: ever go back in the nineties, I was going to 265 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: Barry's boot camp and doing the crazy spinning and all 266 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: the stuff, and I'd be like, then I would be like, 267 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 2: do it, do it? 268 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 3: Do it? 269 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: Am starving, and then every day I'm starving, and then 270 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: I'm doing it, doing it, do it, and then I 271 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 2: like fall off because it's too much. And for me personally, 272 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: I want it to be something that I want to do. 273 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 2: So if I go there for an hour and twenty minutes, 274 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: I'll hate him, I'll hate myself. 275 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to do it. 276 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: So today he was like, what do you want to 277 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 2: start out with? I'm like, I just want to I 278 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: walk today on my own, but I just want to 279 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 2: start out with doing reasonable weights and alignment or whatever's healthy. 280 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: But I want to start at thirty minutes and then yes, 281 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: we could do ten minutes stretch. We could go to 282 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: forty minutes next month, next week, I go to two 283 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: hours and three months, I don't know, but I want 284 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: to come back to it and not hate it. So 285 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: that's my and I think people are too extreme and 286 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: like January twod I'm starting It's Barry's boot camp or 287 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: this fear based thing and I'm going to go crazy. 288 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: It's Tracy Anderson, which is like insane, and for me, 289 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: you do it, but then after I'm like, that's too 290 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: much for me. 291 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: So what do you think about all this? 292 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: My approach is what is sustainable? What is exactly what 293 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: you said? I don't go in with this is what 294 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 3: you need to do, and you can viewer off from 295 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: the program. You start with what can you dedicate to yourself? 296 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: I think this is you dedicating time to you and 297 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 3: your well being, your future well being. What can you 298 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: dedicate to you every single day or you know, or 299 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,239 Speaker 3: you know, three to five days a week, whatever feels accessible. 300 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 3: So it's not so much as you going all out 301 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: for two hours more so than the consistency of doing 302 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 3: over time actually one. And it's also incorporating the elements 303 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: that bring you joy. You know, working out shouldn't be 304 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: grinding your teeth and you know, hating it, hitting showing 305 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: up every single day. It should include elements of enjoyment. 306 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: And that's why when I build my programs, while squats 307 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: and dead lives and pull ups, like the foundation is great, 308 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: most people are not going to stick to just the 309 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: foundational movements, So I incorporate the foundational movements in a 310 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: way that is fun. So one day I'll include squats 311 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: with dumbbells, another day will be front squats with cables. 312 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: So keeping those movements that are important and functionality and 313 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 3: as a foundation, but also making them interesting a novel 314 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: because one of our intrinsic needs is novelty. And incorporating 315 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: that aspect of novelty I found that keeps people very, 316 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 3: that keeps people on on the wea rise app. I 317 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 3: mean that there's so many people that just say that 318 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: that they've tried so many apps, and this is like 319 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 3: the one app that has stuck because it does provide 320 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 3: that that ability to not only fit in your schedule, 321 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: but yes, but make it enjoyable as well. 322 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to look at that because that, to me, 323 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: that is I think that that is the most critical thing. 324 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: And it's funny because I was talking about it today 325 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: to this trainer. I was saying, I don't like bickram 326 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: yoga because I don't want to know what's coming, and 327 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: I don't want twenty six ashtanga too like every day 328 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 2: that for me personally is shackling. I want forty minutes 329 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: of like I don't know what's coming and let me 330 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: just enjoy it and explore. So I'm not like in 331 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: my head about weight now. We still have twenty two 332 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 2: more to go. So I feel like there is people 333 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,959 Speaker 2: when someone's once said to me, I don't like yoga. 334 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: I tried it once. I'm like, what type of yoga 335 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 2: it's like? Is it a Rougola, is it Romaine? Was 336 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 2: it masculine? 337 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: What? 338 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 339 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: Like you could So I feel like everybody could like 340 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 2: exercise if they find what works for them, and that's 341 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: what I'm trying to do. And as it pertains to 342 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: the weights, because I don't want to do the weights, 343 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: and because i think I'm in good shape, so I'm 344 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: not trying to mess around, but I want to think 345 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 2: about age. 346 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 3: Yes, of course, I think a lot of people have 347 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 3: just such a misconception of like strength training and lifting 348 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 3: weights and you know, becoming like a super bulky person, 349 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: you know, like becoming not feminine or whatever the misconception 350 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: might be. And once you kind of introduce people to 351 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 3: working out the right way if you will, or an 352 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 3: enjoyable way or something that works for their schedule, then 353 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 3: it's you see a light bulb like going off. They 354 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: suddenly find like enjoyment in it and they've once you 355 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: kind of also step into that strength, it just gives 356 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: you a feeling that not a lot of other things 357 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 3: can give you. You know, you can get or like 358 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: a runner high, or you can get you know, I 359 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: have moments in yoga where I feel powerful, but there 360 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: is like a different different type of yeah. 361 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: Such a little badass feeling. Sure yeah yeah, sure, are 362 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 2: you married? 363 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: I'm not, but I've been with my long term partner 364 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 3: for a while. 365 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, And do you how much do you work 366 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 2: out with your partner and how much do you think 367 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: that's important? 368 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: Like are you not I'm not that person? Are you 369 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: that person? 370 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 3: We will sometimes tangently work out with each other. I'm 371 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: kind of more of a face based person and he 372 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: likes to kind of take a little bit longer pauses 373 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: between sets, and that's completely fine. But we'll do certain 374 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 3: exercises together and then he'll do his thing, and so 375 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,239 Speaker 3: we kind of mix it up. We mix it up 376 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 3: for sure. Plus we spend almost twenty four to seven 377 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 3: with each other. So I think giving yourselves a little 378 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: bit of me time, which sometimes for me, like me 379 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: time is working out and just focusing on that. But 380 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: then I love work together. Well yeah, well we are. 381 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: We work from home most of the time. 382 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: But you don't work together. 383 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: He works on this, he does work on this on 384 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 3: the he's part of the app, so he does help. 385 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: For sure, he's part of it. But he has a 386 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 3: day job as well. He's in the wealth management and 387 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 3: CPA world. 388 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: And if you had to say that if a woman 389 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: had fifteen minutes three times a week, and that's all 390 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 2: they had, which I believe, I do believe in. I 391 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 2: believe in everything counts, and you do exactly what you 392 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 2: can when you can for the same reasons you don't 393 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 2: want to be defeated, like get into twenty minutes and 394 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: people like it has to be thirty minutes. And like 395 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: I said, Tracy Anderson was on my talk show and 396 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: she was like, you need to be working at six 397 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: days a week. I'm like, that's not happening. Like it's 398 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 2: not happening. We could throw down, like it's not happening. 399 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 2: And most moms who are to have taken care of 400 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: multiple kids and pick up and drop off and jobs 401 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: and can be you know, trying to get out the 402 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: door feeling and looking decent, don't either. So what's the 403 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 2: realistic If somebody only had fifteen minutes three times a week, 404 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 2: what would you tell them to do? 405 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 3: Honestly, the start with the six day a week. While 406 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 3: you know I somebody going my app can do is 407 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 3: a six day program. I have three day programs as well, 408 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 3: because again, you cannot expect everybody to fit into that 409 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: six day program routine. I think you're you're setting them 410 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: up for failure. Most of the time because again most 411 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: and I do have I think a lot of my audience, 412 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 3: if not most of my audience, is that group age 413 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 3: where they have, you know, a kid or two or 414 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 3: three and they're working, you know, so it's it's almost unrealistic. 415 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: And once you set up somebody for failure, then they're 416 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 3: not going to want to come back again. 417 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 2: Well that's here, they won't even start because if they 418 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: don't it doesn't matter, then it doesn't matter. 419 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: But it matters. 420 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 3: It's the effort. We are wired as human to think 421 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: about the effort versus the outcome. So now if that 422 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: effort seems gigantic, then we're more like not even going 423 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: to start, or just do it once and then never 424 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: go back. So we have the same feeling absolutely so 425 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 3: doing it in little chunks and making those those efforts 426 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 3: feel like you're getting a reward right away. So that 427 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 3: is what makes it more consistent working out. So I 428 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 3: even say, you know, you don't even have to start 429 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: with fifteen, start with five, Start with this like what's 430 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: called now exercise. Next, do that for you know, a 431 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: week or two weeks, and then start increasing it once 432 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 3: it feels more accessible to then fifteen minutes a week 433 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: and do that for a while. The consistency is so 434 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 3: much more important than being perfect or doing it every 435 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: so often for an hour to two hours. 436 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: You just described why I believe I'm in good shape 437 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: and everyone asks me do I work out all the time? 438 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: And I work out none of the time. And I 439 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: think it's because of what you're saying that, because this 440 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: is what I've been trying to This is the thing 441 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: that people don't do. Everyone's so extreme and now we 442 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: have to be Keto and Macro and this and that. 443 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: Like it's like everyone. 444 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: Overworks themselves into a froth and like it's the same 445 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: thing that you burn out. Well you burn out, you 446 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: go it's it's not good for your body to binge 447 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: and purge, binge exercise. And then it's too drastic, And 448 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 2: I just think everyone's so drastic with everything. And it's 449 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 2: skincare too, What are you using? What do you It's 450 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: like not one product, it's called over the course of time. 451 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: You're not sleeping with your makeup on, you're cleansing your face, well, 452 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: you're masking. 453 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: Like it's the same thing. 454 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 3: It's the foundation. Yeah, like you said, the foundation, Like 455 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 3: take your makeup off, apply like apply a moisturizer at 456 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 3: the very least, you know, every night and every morning. 457 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 3: But do that every day, you know, versus now trying 458 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 3: to reach for leg that magic pill the one solution. 459 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: That's the same thing with working out, Like there's there's 460 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 3: nothing that's going to give you the results like right away. 461 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 3: Besides again, like the consistency yes of day, you know, 462 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 3: day in and day out. But if you if you're 463 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: to have me in those fifteen minutes, what you can do, 464 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 3: perhaps start with something that you enjoy. That's it. Just 465 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 3: start with something that you enjoy. So if walking is it, 466 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: Walking is the thing that's going to keep you consistent, 467 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: start there. Now, if we're talking about like ideally what 468 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: you'd want so that you can combat aging and you 469 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 3: can combat you know, the disease states that come with aging, 470 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 3: then you'd want include strength training. Just the other day 471 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 3: and I've op posted this yet I didn't. What can 472 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: you do it five minutes? You can do squats, you 473 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: can do reverse lunches, you can do glute bridges, push ups, 474 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: orne push ups or planks, and the fifth one being 475 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: superman so you're like on belly on the ground lifting 476 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 3: up both arms and likes the Superman. So do those 477 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: for forty five seconds. It's fifteen seconds off boom. Five 478 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: minute workout. Body weight or weighted ideally weighted with some weight, 479 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 3: but again start with the accessible point now for fifteen minutes. 480 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 3: Repeat those three times over. You've got three rounds of 481 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: just an amazing workout fifteen minutes. 482 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: Is body weight weight? 483 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: Body weight? Is your own utilizing your own weight? No? 484 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: But is it waits? 485 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,479 Speaker 2: Is it like if you're doing yoga and you're doing 486 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: a plank, is that doing weights? 487 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 3: It's not doing weights. Weights is actually utilizing a dumbbell 488 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 3: of cattle bell. 489 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 2: But is it doing weights for your body? Like is 490 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: your body building muscle mass? Or you're doing yoga and 491 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 2: you're doing a plank egg. 492 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: If done in specific ways, you can't build muscle. Is 493 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 3: just a lot more challenging to build muscle with just 494 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 3: body weight. Again, if you're doing just body weight, perhaps 495 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: doing like single leg exercises is more beneficial versus if 496 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 3: you're doing something that you're utilizing both limbs. 497 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out why I have 498 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 2: muscles because it's a mystery. So it was like literally 499 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: because it might be yogas for years and walking and 500 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what could it be. 501 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 3: Because you are consistent with your being active and you're 502 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 3: not just sitting around. The other problem, now that there 503 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 3: is such a huge problem with being active enough just 504 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 3: being seditary. Most adults are seditary. And if you look 505 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 3: at the blue zones, which are areas in the world 506 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: that produce over and over centenarians, basically people that live 507 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: past one hundred or over, they're not necessarily doing They're 508 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 3: not working out, they're not doing strength training, they're not 509 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 3: doing these things. But what they're doing is that they're staying 510 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 3: active all of the time. They're gardening, they are taking 511 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: care of their families. 512 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: I never said I'm running. I do more steps in 513 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 2: someone just sitting in my house. Okay, all right, so 514 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,199 Speaker 2: then that's what it is. 515 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, So for them, it's one is that they're active. Two, 516 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: there might be somewhat of a genetic component that they 517 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: live to one hundred or more. So, now, how can 518 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 3: we in today's world emulate that without having that genetic 519 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: positive genetic predisposition. Now we have to do the things 520 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,400 Speaker 3: that we know scientifically work, like strength training and working 521 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: out and supplementing our nutrition, which is. 522 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: Well you food. I think the food is most of it. 523 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: It's key. There's so much that's being stripped from our 524 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 3: food that we need to be so conscious about the 525 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: foods that we're eating, like the whole foods that we're eating, 526 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: about the amount of protein that we're eating. And I 527 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: think you do a great job of eating protein, which 528 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 3: I think attributes to your ability to have I. 529 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 2: Do, but I'm not fixated on everybody's obsessed with that 530 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 2: now too, And I think it's ridiculous now because I'm 531 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: I'm how old you are? 532 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: You in your thirties forties? 533 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 3: I think that as a compliment in my face. 534 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: How old do you do? You do you mind telling 535 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: me I'm. 536 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 3: Over for you? Let's say that I never, you know, 537 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 3: I do sometimes don't remember my own age because I 538 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: have programmed myself to not think about age, because I 539 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: think we condition ourselves to operate in our age group 540 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 3: if we're constantly telling ourselves, you know, A yeah. 541 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: But age is a place that you like think about 542 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: people around you and your body and cycles and the 543 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: reason I as I've been through the acin diet, the 544 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: South Beach diet, the scars deeal diet that this diet 545 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 2: people chuck it. So every day it's a new thing. 546 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 2: And then I've been through eggs being bad for you. 547 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: No one ate avocado, coconut oil has been I've been 548 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 2: through all of it. 549 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: So I do take it with a grain of salt. 550 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 2: And the protein fixation is insane, like, yes, have protein, 551 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 2: but we don't have to be mainlining. And people are 552 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 2: putting like turkey and toap of cotta cheese on top 553 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 2: of eggs. It's like, take a fucking break with the 554 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 2: protein powder. 555 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: And I don't buy it all. I think it's bullshit. 556 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: But that's just I mean, there's there's Honestly, there is 557 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,360 Speaker 3: a place and a time for everything. I think short 558 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: nutritions start with nutrition first. But if you're there's so 559 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 3: many people that are unable to include all of the 560 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 3: nutrients that we need, especially protein, you'd be surprised, you know, 561 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 3: in working with people closely, like how much of a 562 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: hard time they have in even meeting minimal requirements of 563 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 3: you know, like two eggs a day is not going 564 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 3: to cut it. Two eggs at breakfast is not going 565 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: to cut it, believe it or not. So you know, 566 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 3: sure it is a craze, but you need to kind 567 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 3: of balance it with where the proper nutrition is and 568 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: with again not obsessing over it. 569 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: And where are you on ozempic? 570 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: Ozempic bodies on fat, skinny body, skinny fat, but you 571 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: know what I mean, someone's thin, but the flabby, like 572 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: what are you seeing as a result of ozempic. Let's 573 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: put it that way. 574 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 3: I think ozmp it really did dis favor the people, 575 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 3: not especially in the terms of people overdosing on it, 576 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 3: so to speak, and then losing all of this muscle 577 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 3: mass that is so critical for somebody's health. You know, 578 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 3: I can't speak to all of the things that that 579 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 3: can create, but I think being utilized in an inappropriate 580 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: ways is inappropriate. Being utilized in ways that it's indicated for, 581 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: or it could help somebody's health and longevity, like that 582 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 3: is a good place for it. But again if used 583 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: in a way that doesn't take away from other aspects 584 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: of health, like losing muscle mass, because it does. When 585 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: you are losing weight that fast, you're losing muscle mass 586 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: as well, so which is critical. Like as I always say, 587 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 3: muscle mass is muscle is the form of currency. It's 588 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 3: an insurance for long term health and longevity. 589 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 2: Amazing, awesome, Wow, it's so nice to talk to you, 590 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: very very thank you. 591 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: So, you know, like I touched upon before, when it 592 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: comes to supplementation, like there is also a pandemic of 593 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 3: like not supplementing correct or not having like the necessary micronutrients. 594 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: Like we talk about like macronutrients like protein and carbs 595 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 3: and fats, but where the micronutrients which are lacking in 596 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: our nutrition nowadays. 597 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: What's a micronutrient? 598 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: So it's all of the vitamins and minerals, you know, 599 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 3: it's all of the things that Yeah, And so there 600 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: is where I do believe in actually like supplementing properly, 601 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: and I do like have new used to share if 602 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 3: you will, I w I'm working and joined as a 603 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: co founder a company called Ionick, which will change the 604 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 3: way that we approach nutrition. It's the next generation functional 605 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: nutrition company, so approaches nurturing our bodies when it comes 606 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: to like the vitamins and the minerals and the micronutrients 607 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 3: in a way that is truly scientific, scientifically based, evidence based, 608 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 3: and that hasn't really impact because I think a lot 609 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: of people have been jaded by supplement companies and nutrition 610 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: companies because of the things that they promise and yet 611 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 3: that they don't deliver. So they'll have like you know 612 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 3: what we call pixel dusting of like greens and probiotics 613 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 3: and prebiotics and post biotics and which a lot of 614 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 3: the time, if you just have a little sprinkle is 615 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: not going to have much of an impact. 616 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: Well, that's. 617 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly. 618 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: I'm very confused. I get sent everything, so I've got 619 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: I got in here. I just told my doctor because 620 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 2: I have this great new concierge doctor. It's been doing 621 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: all the tests. I took a picture of everything. I'm like, 622 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: it's everything from niagen to glue to thigh on to 623 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: the longevity mushrooms, to the vinumin c to the colostrum 624 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 2: to the fire I'm like, what the fuck? 625 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: Like what do we probiotic pre bio like, I'm like. 626 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: And everything comes in like a thousand different bottles, right, It's. 627 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: And it's very overwhelming and very overwhelming. 628 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 3: So this is the thing that with Ionic we're changing, 629 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: is that we're aiming to replace all of the supplements 630 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 3: in your cabinet with just one really essential nutrition supplement 631 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 3: that is so easy to take. It's actually beautiful. It comes, 632 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 3: I can grab it. It's like in a little bottle 633 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 3: with a compartment on top of it has the pills 634 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: and a little chaser, so that yeah. It also, yeah, 635 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: it helps with absorption, and it does have all of 636 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: the ingredients in the right amounts to do what they're 637 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: supposed to do, you know, not just marketing, but like 638 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: but truly effective. I'm I'm excited you're the first one. 639 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited. I'd love to try. Yeah, I have 640 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: one company I worked with. I've literally changed their business 641 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 2: because a lot of people take this now because for me, 642 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 2: the same thing. 643 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: It has to be accessible, it has to be easy. 644 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: And I'm actually when I leave this call, going to 645 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: go in the kitchen now and look at my supplements 646 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 2: and maybe like make a little something. I've got to 647 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: be more diligent about it, but I'm trying my very best. 648 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 3: We're going to send you some and you should try it. 649 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 3: It's it's I love it. 650 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: And also when you're in Florida, let my team know. 651 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll come like train with you somewhere, just like 652 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 2: for only like forty minutes. 653 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: Of course, I'm gonna give you access to the Rerise app. 654 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: I won't have your email address. I'll get your email 655 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 3: address because i'd love to hear your thoughts about it. 656 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 3: And yes, and I'm sure you'll love it. I'm sure 657 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 3: I love it. 658 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: I can give you a good opinion because I it 659 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: has to be not overwhelming, and. 660 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 3: I know you will. I know you'll be honest. 661 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I will. So I'm excited. Well, amazing, it's 662 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: just so good. The timing was ridiculous. Walk from the gym, 663 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: like am I I don't even wear workout wearing work 664 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: at so stupid. So so nice to meet you, my fellow. 665 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: I love. It'll be in Miami for Art Basils, so 666 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 3: maybe I will know if you're going to be there. 667 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: I will awesome. We might have a couple of events there, 668 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: so I might let you know. 669 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: Awesome. We'll have a great thank you son, satting with 670 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 1: you to