WEBVTT - Ding Dong Ditch Murder: “This Is Not Stand Your Ground, This Is Not Manslaughter, This Is Murder” 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:06.560 Hey, the folks. It is Wednesday, September third, and we 0:00:06.640 --> 0:00:11.960 need to talk about what is happening in Houston. Welcome 0:00:11.960 --> 0:00:14.760 to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. You and 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.759 I have gone back and forth about this story quite 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:20.360 a bit since we got a word over it over 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:24.480 the weekend. But an eleven year old boy shot and 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:30.520 killed after playing a prank door not what is it 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:31.080 called door? 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:34.080 It's a ding dong dish, ding dong ditch. 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:35.479 Is the name of it. What do we call it? 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:39.080 When we were kids, just pranking, like let's let's knock 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.600 on their door and run away and then watch them 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.000 come out and look for who it is and laugh. Yes, 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:46.000 I absolutely played this as a kid. 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:47.920 Okay, So that is what an eleven year old boy 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.680 in Houston was doing, just like so many of us 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:51.320 were doing we were kids. And he ends up debt 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:53.120 because he was shot in the back as he was 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.640 running away from a house. And whoever was in that house. 0:00:56.680 --> 0:01:00.000 A man has now been arrested, he has been charged, 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:02.560 and he is being held as we speak on a 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:06.319 one million dollar bond. He was in court today. We 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.360 want to get you caught up here, folks, but we 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:13.800 this does need to come robes with a warning and 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:19.120 alert to us all to parents in particular, that is 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:23.520 not a game anyway. You can get killed playing a game. 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.880 It's a prank. Kids shouldn't do it, don't get me wrong. 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:31.400 But that's not the point that nobody's suggesting that this 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.319 kid did anything wrong that night. 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.040 He didn't do anything worthy of what happened to him, certainly, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:43.040 and to actually get the details of how it all unfolded, 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.520 and it started at a birthday party and you got 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.600 two bored boys, cousins who kind of just sneaked out 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:53.120 from the party and decided to have some fun, ringing 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.560 doorbells and running away. To think that it ended with 0:01:56.760 --> 0:02:03.320 eleven year old Julian Guzman shot multiple times in the back, 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:08.200 and it was all caught on camera. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:13.120 So let's and folks, there is certain oh my god, right, 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.320 so many elements of the story that don't make any sense. 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:19.720 But where we are, and I want you to pick 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:22.400 up on the details of the night here in a second. 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.120 But to get you all caught up, today was the 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.359 day the suspect, which he's not necessarily denying that he 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:32.200 did the shooting. He says some contact is this context 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.640 is necessary. Gonzalo Leon Junior, forty two year old man 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:41.160 has now been charged with murder in the killing of 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.919 this eleven year old boy after a prank and he 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:47.440 chased the kid essentially down the street shoots him in 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:51.040 the back. Kid is dead now. He that happened on 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.040 last Saturday. Robes. He wasn't arrested until Tuesday. He has 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.160 made a court appearance now in which he is being 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.760 held on one million dollars bond. Now go back Robes 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:05.200 to Saturday night. And the first thing I thought, eleven 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.560 year old kid, eleven o'clock at night, why does no 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.560 one know where he is? That's the parent in me talking. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:15.079 That wasn't me trying to say he got what he 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:17.080 should have expected, something bad. And no, that's not what 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.760 you're saying. That was my first thought. But now we 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:22.600 got more details about exactly what he was doing that night. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.840 Right, he was at a family birthday party, and you know, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.720 the adults were probably doing their thing and the kids 0:03:27.760 --> 0:03:30.399 got bored, and so yeah, they kind of just took 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:34.000 off at night while everyone was preoccupied at this birthday party, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.040 and they started doing the ringing of the doorbells and 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.840 running away. And when it came to the home of 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:45.400 Gonzalo Leon Junior. They had already done it twice. They 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.560 had pranked him twice, and it was the third time 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:53.320 he was waiting for them. According to Julian's cousin who 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.560 was there, who gave police a lot of the information, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.960 who was actually able to give police the description that 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:03.560 led them to finally arresting Gonzalo Leon Junior. But he 0:04:03.720 --> 0:04:07.040 said that this man was waiting for them in the 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.200 dark on the side of the house with a gun 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:14.160 in his hand and fired a warning shot into the ground. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.560 First don't know why he didn't stop there, because the 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.240 boys took off running, and that is when he then 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:24.200 fired multiple shots that hit eleven year old Julian and 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.720 he fell to the ground, and his cousin described trying 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:32.440 to drag him away from where the bullets were. I mean, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.520 it's just it's it's horrific. And here is the detail 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:39.880 that really is going to take your breath away. Julian 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.600 was videoing this the entire time on his cell phone 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:47.080 because this whole thing, these these pranks, it's it's big 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:51.160 on TikTok, and we've got plenty of other unfortunate incidents 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:54.240 to point to some of them deadly over the last 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.960 even the last few months, but certainly over the past 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.800 couple of years, where kids are filming their attempt at 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.800 pranking and thinking it's funny. So he has it all 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.839 on his cell phone from the moment he rang the 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:11.400 doorbell and ran to you hear the shots ringing out 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.760 to you. Actually hear him taking his final breaths. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:18.680 I hope this guy pleads and that never has to 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.200 make it to the light of day, because they're going 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.080 to have to use that in a trial, are they not? 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:23.880 In open court? 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:25.320 It's absolute evidence. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.440 I hope that never makes it to the light of day. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:30.200 Can you imagine as a juror having to watch that, 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.000 any human being having to watch that and hear that 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:39.440 and know what happened. It's unreal actually to think that 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:40.799 it's all captured. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:45.240 So he has now been charged, yes, with murder, held 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.400 on one million dollar bond, which is what happened in 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.920 court today. But today is Robes and we got a 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:54.560 lot more detail and we got an idea of what 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.479 happened and where the prosecution wants to go with this, 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.680 and where even the defense wants to. 0:05:59.680 --> 0:05:59.880 Go with it. 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.480 And yes they do already have kind of a defense 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.200 forming Robes. It's hard to imagine. And if we go 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:09.599 back through these details in which I am struggling with, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.280 and the new detail for me, at least I found 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:16.800 out today is that he was waiting in the shadows. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:21.400 He was waiting. He was mad, well, he was mad. 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:27.520 But Robes, if he was waiting, didn't he see that 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:30.240 there was a child approaching his door? 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:31.880 Of course he had to have seen it as a child. 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:36.000 How I am struggling to find any way, because they 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.320 said in court his defense attorney, there needs to be 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.120 everybody needs to not jump to conclusions. You need to 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.760 wait until you have a full context of the night's events. 0:06:43.800 --> 0:06:46.720 Okay, they called it a tragic accident. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:51.240 Robes, how in God's name now? Because I thought initially 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.520 when I first heard eleven year old shot prank, I say, 0:06:54.600 --> 0:06:56.839 oh my god, some guy scared the hell out of 0:06:56.839 --> 0:06:59.280 some guy. He went to the doors, just started firing 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.280 in a panic, right and hit the kid. That's what 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.640 that was the first thought. Wait, the kid was running 0:07:03.640 --> 0:07:06.480 down the street, and now I hear the guy was 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.400 waiting in the wings. I don't understand. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.760 You can't justify that in any way and then the 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.920 autopsy clearly showed that the boy at the time of 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.679 when the bullet hit him, he was twenty feet away 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.400 from the gun. So he was far enough away from 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:24.400 this man. He was not a threat. He wasn't running 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:26.960 to him, he was running away from him, and he 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:29.679 was already twenty feet away, and he was far away 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.960 from this man's house. So there's really a hard like, 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:37.080 I don't know how you could defend any of his 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.960 actions based on any of the current laws that are 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.080 in place right now. We really did do a bit 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.480 of a deep dive on your standard ground law. Of course, 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:48.920 that is something that most likely will come up, and 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:53.280 there is actually something I went into the Texas dot 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:58.920 gov and looked up some of these possible scenarios and 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.040 it specific references trespassers. Okay, so you could say that 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:07.200 this eleven year old boy was a truspasser. So when 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:12.560 you enter onto or into someone's property, and even especially 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.760 if you've been told to leave by someone with authority. 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:16.440 So we don't know if he had yelled at them 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:19.080 earlier or no, there's no report that he did, but 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.360 still he's going on someone else's property. So okay, fine, 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.640 he was trespassing. But they say, if you grab your 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.040 firearm and you go outside and you fire a shot 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:32.320 at a trespasser or someone who is merely creeping around 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:36.320 your yard, you will likely find yourself facing a serious felony. 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:40.760 Texas law only permits the use of force, not deadly force. 0:08:41.480 --> 0:08:44.679 And you certainly that's it's a gray area when you 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:50.840 just have someone who's trespassing. Oh, now, make that someone 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:51.840 an eleven year old boy. 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.880 Okay, But if that trespasser is running away from your 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.840 home and is twenty feet away from you, I thought 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.120 you were stopping me, like, oh, no. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.000 You're right, No, no, no, you're right. I see, I hear 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:02.520 what you're saying. 0:09:02.640 --> 0:09:05.320 I just don't get it. And a lot of folks 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.320 from the South, you and I spend a lot of 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.160 time growing up in the South. Was in Atlanta, and 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:11.679 I'm a gun owner. I was a gun owner in 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.400 Atlanta at least, excuse me, let me make sure I 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:17.040 live in New York. Now I am no longer a 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.960 gun owner, but I was down there, and there we stand. 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:23.600 Your ground law and castle doctrine is what we were 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.720 talking about earlier. There are laws in certain states that 0:09:28.240 --> 0:09:32.480 if someone is on your property. Uninvited, you don't have 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:35.880 to ask questions. You can shoot and kill that person. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:41.120 The castle doctrine, they're uninvited in your home, on your property, 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.160 you have no duty to retreat in any way, form, 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.800 or fashion. That's one thing. The stand your ground law 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.920 is another. Yes, we listened to this rogues and we're thinking, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.520 how could he possibly a eleven year old kid running away? 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.800 But if this comes up, remember George Zimmermann was found 0:09:57.880 --> 0:10:01.280 not guilty in the death of Trayvon for second degree 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:06.640 murder based on stand your ground. Jordan Davis he was 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.240 killed by Michael Dunn. That case in Florida as well. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.240 This wasn't that a home. They were at a gas station. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.600 The kid was playing music louder than the dude liked, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.440 and he shot and killed him. First trial hung jury 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:22.720 based on stand your ground. He was found guilty later. 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.480 But I'm saying I would never imagine in those two cases. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.520 I could never imagine in this case. But I've been 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:30.160 wrong before. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:36.240 That's frightening. It's frightening because it will be hard for 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:39.200 this man to be able to justify that he didn't 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:42.839 know this was an unarmed child. It will be hard 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.760 for this man to somehow prove to a jury that 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:51.720 he felt threatened. Now, he's a father, he is a husband, 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.319 His wife and his toddler daughter were inside the home. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.760 We know that much. And he really hasn't said much 0:10:57.800 --> 0:10:59.720 at all. In fact, police said when they went to 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:01.640 talk to him that evening, because they actually went out 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.520 and talked to him and released him, he didn't answer 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.320 any of their questions. He didn't acknowledge anything, He didn't 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:13.040 claim to know anything. He completely closed his mouth, did 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.280 not say a word. And you know, anyone who is 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.120 potentially going to be charged with the crime, they'll tell 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.760 you that's the right thing to do, remember, protecting yourself. 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.160 We were covering the story and we said the kid 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:25.240 was shot on Saturday. Then we come to Sunday, then 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:27.240 we come to month. What the hell are they waiting 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.040 on they? Why hasn't anybody been arrested? Makes sense? Now? 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:32.560 Yeah, he said nothing. He wouldn't even acknowledge that he 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.880 knew what had happened. So they had to go through 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.560 other means, especially the cousin. They leaned on him heavily 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:40.559 to try and get the description to be able to 0:11:40.640 --> 0:11:43.960 arrest him. But he has not spoken at all. About 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.400 what happened, how it happened, why it happened. He hasn't 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.000 shown remorse, He hasn't said a word. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:53.280 He said the cousin, can you imagine? 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.400 No, And he said he wished he could have done more. 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.320 I mean, can you imagine he saw it all happen 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:00.880 and he's going to with that for the rest of 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:01.439 his life. 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:04.280 They were just out and you know what, Robes I 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:08.560 have done and we need to and you know what, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.160 We're going to get into this because warnings. Police are 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.840 putting out warnings, parents are putting out warnings across the 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:20.000 country to talk to your kids about this. Ding I 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:24.840 keep getting wrong, Ding Ding dong ditch ding dong ditch prank. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.360 And I thought it was Look, I've done it before 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.040 as a kid. You run up, you hit the doorbell, 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:36.120 and you run away. Folks, that's not actually what a 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:40.320 lot of these kids are doing. It's much more aggressive, 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:46.520 severe and scary than what we used to do as kids. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.000 So we want to tell you what that is about. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.640 And we also want to go through a number of 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:56.199 recent incidents, and there are some people spending the rest 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:00.199 of their lives in prison without the possibility of parole 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:16.000 because they reacted after somebody pranked them, all right, folks, 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:20.679 Continuing now here on Amy and TJ, look where there 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:22.560 is a lot of focus on the eleven year old 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:25.520 boy who was shot and killed in Houston after the 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.840 Ding Dong ditch prank he played down there in Houston. 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.800 But Robes, this has been something that police have been 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:36.320 warning about and parents have been warning about for a 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.959 while because again you said you remember doing it as 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.680 a kid. Yeah, right, I remember doing it. Is you 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:44.959 go up and you ring the doorbell and you run away. 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.760 And at the end of it, absolutely like dare you 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:48.319 do it? No, you do it and go up and 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.000 you'd run and you'd run so fast and you go 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:51.719 hide in the woods or somewhere where you could see 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.160 the person come out and you'd laugh. That was it. 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:58.560 That's it, okay, folks, That's not what they're necessarily doing 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:02.000 these days. They are and again you can see all 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:05.640 this stuff on Tick. There's a whole section curated just 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:07.880 for these videos and people are making them and what 0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:11.640 they're doing they're not just doing it once or twice, 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:13.119 they're doing it three. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.480 Times, banging loudly, and so. 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:21.080 They're not just ringing the doorbell. Or knocking. They are 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:26.280 running and almost punching and kicking the doors. It would 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.000 scare the hell out of you if somebody did this 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:30.320 to you in the middle of the night. And in 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.400 some cases robes. The kids have been wearing damn. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:37.680 Sche mask ski masks because it makes the video funnier 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:38.920 and it. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:42.280 Keeps you from being identified by all the damn ring cams. 0:14:42.920 --> 0:14:46.440 So if somebody in a sche mask is outside my 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:51.280 home at one am, banging and kicking the door, why 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:53.360 am I supposed to take them as anything other than 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.000 a threat. That's the conversation you gotta have. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.400 With your kids, because they see it on TikTok. They 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.640 think it's fun, and everyone wants to one up, right, 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.520 So you want to make a better video, a more 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.520 interesting video, a funnier video, a cooler video, and so 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.800 everyone's trying to up the ante, and it makes things 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.040 all the more dangerous. And it really is frightening because 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:19.440 you can understand in some of those circumstances where the 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:26.120 homeowner yes would potentially have a violent reaction going into 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:29.240 self defense mode or defending your family mode, that actually 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.840 makes sense. That is not I mean, look, I'm sure, look, yeah, 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:37.480 I'm sure what happened in this most recent case. Obviously 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:39.320 he was waiting for him, so he knew they were kids, 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:41.880 but he was pissed, he was angry, He was pissed 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.560 off his kid. Maybe he woke his baby up, maybe 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:47.440 the baby's you know who knows. And sure, I'm sure 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.880 that was annoying, and that was irritating and he was angry. 0:15:51.040 --> 0:15:55.480 But to have it rise to that level is in 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:59.560 that case just not at all warranty anyway out. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:01.240 Of it and said he was an army vet. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.080 We did not say that he's an army vet. 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:08.720 And I didn't see you said they found a boatload 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:09.600 of guns. 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.800 Authority searched his home. They recovered twenty firearms, including and 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.760 this is the words they use, a handful of ar 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:22.160 style rifles, shotguns, and medium caliber pistols. So this is 0:16:22.720 --> 0:16:25.960 a man who was heavily armed in his own home. 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.720 But you would also assume, okay, he's an army vet. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:34.080 He's trained, not just trained to use a weapon. I'm 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.400 saying he's trained to deal in stressful situations. Here, I 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.600 would argue, how you see, how you you how do 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.480 you calculate an eleven year old boy as a threat 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.280 to your home or your family, to the point you 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:49.560 have to shoot him as he's running. I don't He 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.280 had to have been out of his mind in a 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.400 rage like he had an out of body experienced rope. 0:16:55.440 --> 0:17:00.320 I cannot understand how anything is going to explain this one. 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.720 No, and I don't think it is explainable. But he's 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:06.160 not the only person who has reacted this way. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.560 And some of them rolled in some of these cases, folks, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.840 and they have been deaths. There have been a number 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:17.480 of deaths in this country connected to ding I keep 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.600 messing up ding dong ditch. Yes, what did we call it? 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:22.120 Just a doorbell dash. 0:17:21.920 --> 0:17:24.200 Or a doorbell dash whatever. I think we would just say, 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:26.640 let's go ring doorbells and run away. And we didn't 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:28.800 have a clever name. There were no hashtags back then, 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:32.199 and certainly we weren't videoing it, were posting it. You know, 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:34.119 there's none of that. It was just for the experience. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.280 It wasn't to show it to anyone else or to 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.959 show off to anyone else. It was just because simply 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:40.639 we were bored. 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.520 One of the most horrific ones wrote incidents, the one 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:46.240 in southern California. And this is one that many people cite. 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.200 But I thought this was going to be a case 0:17:48.240 --> 0:17:52.600 of this is so unbelievable because he didn't just react 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.600 by shooting somebody outside of his door. He got this 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:58.360 random down. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:02.760 He chased them down. Yeah, twenty twenty southern California, he 0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:06.840 killed three sixteen year old boys. He got into his 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:11.200 car and rammed them off the road, like rammed into them. 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:13.800 So he hit their vehicle twice. The speeds got up 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:15.919 to one hundred miles an hour because he was chasing 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.840 them and they were scared. H So, yes, three sixteen 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.159 year olds died. He was sentenced to life in prison 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:28.159 without the possibility of parole over a damn doorbell prank. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.120 Yep, he is in life for the rest of his life. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.000 Yeah, in prison for the rest of his life. And 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:37.720 just this past May, so May of this year, we 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.400 only have to go to Virginia, an eighteen year old 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.760 was shot and killed while recording same thing, a ding 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.119 dong ditch prank. Now, the twenty seven year old who 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.000 he was pranking is facing a second to green murder 0:18:50.119 --> 0:18:52.639 charge for that. So you know, this is this is 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:57.399 something that has been deadly for multiple years. So in 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.080 just July of this year, so we're talking two months ago. 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.119 This is also in Texas. A man was charged after 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.320 he's shot at the car carrying the group of teenagers. 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.840 So they were taking off in the car, but he 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:14.879 shot at them and so he got three counts of 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.760 aggravated assault, thank goodness. But he could have killed them, 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.600 He could have shot them. He just happened to miss. 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:22.840 So he is still facing serious charges for that. But 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.560 he got so angry. Yeah, shot at them in their 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:27.640 car taking off. 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:29.080 And if you don't want to know what we're talking 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.600 about and how some of these are aggressive. The police 0:19:32.720 --> 0:19:36.320 in Arizona, Chandler, Arizona, when was it, I don't have 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.920 a note, but it was this summer. They warned people 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:44.840 about this by putting out videos that they had captured 0:19:44.920 --> 0:19:47.399 of these kids doing it. And it gives you an 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:51.200 idea and how scary it could be for a homeowner 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:55.000 to have this happened at your front door. So if 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:59.040 you get a chance again Chandler, Arizona police, just look 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:03.439 that up. Google them and look up just video, door, dock, whatever, 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.480 and you'll see it and it'll give you an idea 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:06.040 of what we're talking. 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.600 This one they said was called a door kicking challenge. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.400 So it was this in the same vein. But yes, 0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.440 this is when they're kicking the door. And they actually 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:17.280 showed some of these teens targeting the same home. One 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:20.600 home was hit eighteen times, so they go back to 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.920 the same people just to aggravate that torments. 0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.040 Yeah awful. And so what do you do and how 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:30.919 do you retaliate as a homeowner? You shoot eleven year 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:31.239 old boy? 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:33.240 No? No, never, obviously No. 0:20:33.880 --> 0:20:36.960 Yeah, I thought about this earlier. I wanted to discussion. 0:20:37.200 --> 0:20:40.640 I don't know it, but it was my reaction in Atlanta, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:46.400 my house in Atlanta. I was there by myself, and 0:20:46.480 --> 0:20:51.400 one night I started hearing things knocking on the door. 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:54.720 You've been in the house there, you know, upset by 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:58.200 yourself and there it feelstle, scary, a little scary. Yeah, yeah, 0:20:58.680 --> 0:21:01.440 but I heard things outside hitting my window. I thought 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.240 somebody was trying to get into the house or whatever. 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:05.359 You know what the first thing I did, I went 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.840 and grabbed my gun. I went and grabbed my six 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.720 hour nine milimeters pistol and got it in my hand, 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:13.680 and then you know, I went to the front room 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.920 to the library and started looking out trying to figure 0:21:15.920 --> 0:21:17.680 out what was going on. And then when I finally 0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:25.280 saw egg yolk going down my window, it was freaking Halloween. 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.000 Kids were playing some prank with some joke, some doings, 0:21:29.119 --> 0:21:34.160 and they were just pelting me that night, thrown eggs. Okay, fine, 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:36.640 But I am saying in a moment like that, At 0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.560 that moment that night, I had no idea that kids 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:41.840 were playing a prank. I wasn't about to go shoot 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.560 a kid, but I didn't know what was happening. And 0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:49.560 my first mode of operation was to protection. There's a 0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.639