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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's almost famous podcast. Today we are here with you

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Speaker 2: bringing you some very very I'm actually Ashley very excited

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Speaker 2: to talk to this person, because we're always excited to

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Speaker 2: talk to somebody new. But there's people that have captivated us,

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Speaker 2: people that I just want to know what they know.

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Speaker 3: That's what that is? This one, I just need to

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Speaker 3: know what she was in her brain.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll get there, but we've had Letia,

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Speaker 2: Carolina and Grant for the most recent season on You

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Speaker 2: can go back and listen to those episodes. I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you they're interesting. All of them are interesting in their

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Speaker 2: own ways, some funny, some off the wall, some serious,

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Speaker 2: and some somewhat confusing. And today it's like we're getting

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Speaker 2: the final piece of this puzzle. Yes, our guest today is,

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Speaker 2: of course the woman that Grant chose lucky. Here we're

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Speaker 2: talking about Juliana. Juliana, welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, guys, Juliana, welcome to the podcast

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Speaker 4: that rose Grant all the time. I'm I'm sure we're

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Speaker 4: not unique in that, and we are sorry. Ben was

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Speaker 4: the one who did the interview with him a couple

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Speaker 4: like about a month ago, and I was, I was,

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Speaker 4: And he was supposed to come on a couple.

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Speaker 3: Of weeks ago, like a week or so ago, and

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Speaker 3: he didn't show. Didn't show, So leave that to your imagination.

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Speaker 3: I think he didn't want to talk to me. I've

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Speaker 3: been hard than.

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Speaker 5: If you can't praise the critics, you can't do baby,

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Speaker 5: gotta take it.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Juliana, you were on recently with Joe

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Speaker 4: and Serena, and there was a lingering question that I

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Speaker 4: certainly had after that, and that was.

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Speaker 3: What happened with the hotel.

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Speaker 4: Hell fight that you guys had after the final rowse

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Speaker 4: How did it get reconciled?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, I mean I think I think that I

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Speaker 5: probably like didn't provide enough context.

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Speaker 6: I think I was trying to answer a question.

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Speaker 3: And that's why we have you here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, bit of like a roundabout way without spilling too

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Speaker 5: much tea, but giving some insight as to like when

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Speaker 5: I first started to have doubts. You know, we got

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Speaker 5: through that that argument. It was just like the moment

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Speaker 5: for me was like how is this happening to me?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 5: How did I end up here? This morning I'm feeling alone.

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Speaker 5: You're kind of like creating that space and also making

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Speaker 5: me feel like I wasn't going to be supported. The

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Speaker 5: hotel fight was was really just you know that phrase,

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Speaker 5: I think I'm gonna butcher it. But it's like when

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Speaker 5: you're with somebody to the public, you'll always kind of

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Speaker 5: like pret them and stand up for them, but then

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Speaker 5: behind closed doors you can have those conversations and maybe

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Speaker 5: call them out for things that you need to. I

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Speaker 5: think that's what I was trying to do through a

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Speaker 5: lot of this, and so people, you know, didn't see

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Speaker 5: me holding him accountable or thought that we were ganging

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Speaker 5: up on Latia and creating this narrative, and I think

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Speaker 5: ultimately I was just in a protector mode for him,

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Speaker 5: and then behind closed doors, especially after the finale, and

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Speaker 5: when I was able to watch how he handled it

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Speaker 5: with Latia on stage because I saw the you know,

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Speaker 5: I already saw the final episode before the finale, it

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Speaker 5: was just how he handled it. I think that that's

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Speaker 5: what caused me a lot of frustration, was the lack

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Speaker 5: of accountability from him. I think she was a little

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Speaker 5: harsh if if that's just my opinion, but I think

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Speaker 5: he could have. I think he did the best he could,

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Speaker 5: but I think there was a little bit of lack

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Speaker 5: I was really frustrated, and I was like, well, now

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Speaker 5: we have to do a you know, like we have

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Speaker 5: to carry that forward. And I would love for you

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Speaker 5: to hold yourself a little bit higher in the sense that,

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Speaker 5: you know, and that just wasn't the way things were going.

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Speaker 6: So we were not on the same page.

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Speaker 5: Once the finale kind of aired, and yeah, that was

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Speaker 5: just like one piece of the puzzle.

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Speaker 2: I Ashley, can I can I just have a conversation

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Speaker 2: with Juliana for a second.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just jumped right into it. So let's backtrack

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Speaker 4: or do whatever this is track?

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Speaker 2: Okay, this is just she's reminding me of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if anybody knows what it feels like to

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Speaker 2: lead some on this show, I think I would be

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Speaker 2: the one to say I did it best or worst? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I mean I can go both ways, right, Like

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Speaker 2: I did, I know I did I mean, that's exactly

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Speaker 2: what I did, and it was unfair to Jojo at

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Speaker 2: the time, but it did cause Lauren a lot of pain,

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Speaker 2: I think because she had to answer questions about it

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Speaker 2: for me, and I think when you are together, I

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Speaker 2: think you just said it. And I think that's what

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Speaker 2: reminded me is in the public you want to support

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Speaker 2: your partner. Behind closed doors, though, you need to hold

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Speaker 2: your partner accountable, and I remember many moments where she

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Speaker 2: would do that and there was a lot of like,

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Speaker 2: it's a weird conversation to have. I'm going off on

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Speaker 2: a tangent here, but you just reminded me of so

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Speaker 2: much during that time. It's a weird conversation to have

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Speaker 2: with the person that you're with to be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you need to also be like more respectful to the

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Speaker 2: person that you broke up with when we were like

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Speaker 2: figuring this thing out, and I think at the time

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Speaker 2: it was really hard to process, like, Okay, how much

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Speaker 2: do I talk about with this with Lauren about you know, Jojo?

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Speaker 2: How much do I not talk about? What do I

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Speaker 2: say to Jojo? Do I send her a text to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry for how things went down? Is that inappropriate?

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Speaker 2: There was a lot there, but you need a partner

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Speaker 2: to kind of step in with you. I want to

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Speaker 2: go back a little bit though. I remember when I

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Speaker 2: first felt like Lauren was thrown off was like the

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Speaker 2: night after our proposal on the show. It was the

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Speaker 2: next day when we were like, She's like, okay, so

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Speaker 2: what do we do now? And I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 2: really know what we do now, Like I'm my middle

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Speaker 2: name is Edward, and here's my phone number, and I

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Speaker 2: hope this works. There was a lot happening, yeah, and

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Speaker 2: so can we go back to like next day for you?

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Speaker 2: It wasn't I expected this whole show to end in

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Speaker 2: know why it wasn't this way. It felt very opposite

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Speaker 2: of that. It felt very much like, okay, now let's

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Speaker 6: M hm.

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Speaker 2: And also, can you explain to me how this thing

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Speaker 2: all worked out at the end, because I don't think

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Speaker 2: it was as like clean cut as what I think.

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Speaker 2: You know, she was away for a lot of it,

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Speaker 2: so I had to explain the whole thing to her.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's hard. I don't know what they don't know right.

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Speaker 5: So then it's a lot of backtracking, and it's a

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Speaker 5: lot of having to revisit weird things, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I think in some ways it brought Grant and I

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Speaker 5: a lot closer because I think I don't know where

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Speaker 5: he said it. And I have to admit I don't

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Speaker 5: usually listen to like any of the podcasts he does,

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Speaker 5: unless if somebody says, you know, he was talking about

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Speaker 5: me in some way. But I think we've been pretty

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Speaker 5: respectful in that sense. Maybe me not so much, but

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Speaker 5: I will say, like he said something recently along the

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Speaker 6: I think that there's twofold to that.

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Speaker 5: I think that if you don't know yourself well enough,

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Speaker 5: how can you really stay strong and true to who

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Speaker 6: I think it can get messy.

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Speaker 5: And I think that for me, the Grant I met

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Speaker 6: I think that I did.

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Speaker 5: You know, I fell in love with the basis of

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Speaker 5: who I thought he was and what was presented to me,

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Speaker 5: and I still care for that person deeply, But in

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Speaker 5: terms of it being a long lasting relationship, I think

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Speaker 5: I was struggling to get to that point once we

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Speaker 5: were really getting to know each other. I mean, I

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Speaker 5: don't he could say the same about me, but I

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would like to think that, at least

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Speaker 5: I don't know this person, you know, Like I was

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Speaker 4: You don't have to spill your gods, but like, can

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Speaker 4: you give us an example as to how he's different

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think he's like I say this

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Speaker 5: But I think we had talked about things we wanted

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Speaker 5: And then he wanted to do a dating app, and

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Speaker 5: then he wanted to have his you know, marketing class.

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Speaker 5: And I was having a hard time following following it,

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Speaker 5: to you know, spread this mission that you can do

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 5: And and I think he was just you scatterbrained a

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Speaker 5: he went through. And I mean, listen, it took me

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Speaker 5: still feel that with him, you know now and maybe

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Speaker 5: that's just.

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Speaker 6: Who he is.

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Speaker 2: And I mean, you're you're giving him a lot of grace,

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Speaker 2: and you should because it is a wild time. You

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Speaker 2: I would think somebody like you who ends up with

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Speaker 6: It was hard. It was it was all around herd.

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Speaker 6: That's what the videos on TikTok were saying.

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Speaker 6: To talk him off a ledge over the girl he hurt,

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Speaker 5: I don't think that he intended to not get over it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to know about your family and what

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Speaker 5: Thank you. That really does mean the world to me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, just like being able to have that.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think I talked to my brother a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and just because he was honest.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think my mom and my dad and

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Speaker 6: Think they wanted me to get through it. My brother

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Speaker 5: My brother was like, if you're feeling like this, like

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 5: just was crying like all day every day for like

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00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 5: two weeks, and I like left to go to Florida

441
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 5: and stay with my aunt, and I was like help me,

442
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 5: and then they would go to work all day and

443
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 5: I'd just like be like crying in the sunshine.

444
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 6: But I'm like, at least I'm getting.

445
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 2: Tan, you know.

446
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 5: He's trying to soak in like any sort of positive

447
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 5: around me.

448
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 2: It's so hard. Yeah, it's so hard to do a

449
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: public breakup. I've shared this story before, but when Laura

450
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 2: and I broke up, we went our separate ways, like immediately,

451
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 2: she kind of like grabbed her stuff and left, which

452
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 2: was for them.

453
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 3: Never saw each other again, well.

454
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 2: No, kind of, Well we really haven't. I've seen her

455
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 2: husband many times.

456
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: It's great, but he cast the husband.

457
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,719
Speaker 2: It's hilarious, it buddy, uh. But I we both ended up.

458
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: We didn't tell each other we were going. We went

459
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: to New York City. I was there on a work

460
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 2: trip and she went with a friend and I ran

461
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 2: into her like three days after our breakup, randomly on

462
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 2: the street corner and I sprinted like away, like I

463
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: ran out a direction. I was so nervous. I didn't

464
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 2: want to see her. It was so hard, and there

465
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,160
Speaker 2: was so much opinion out there. But sometimes and I think,

466
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to speak for Lauren here during this,

467
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: but our breakup was a long time coming. We had

468
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: a lot of respect for each other and we still

469
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 2: do to this day. But it was a weightlifted when

470
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: we finally said, Okay, this is done, like we know it.

471
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how we're going to do this. A

472
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 2: lot of things are going to be said, but this

473
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: is over. Let's just, you know, rip the band aid

474
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 2: off and move forward to the best we can. So

475
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: it was a weightlifted. It doesn't sound like it felt

476
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: like a weightlifted to you, though.

477
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:55,640
Speaker 6: It did end.

478
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, I think before we announced it, we'd

479
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 5: been broken up maybe for like a few weeks personally,

480
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 5: you know, and he had come to Aruba with me

481
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 5: and my friends and my family, and that was like

482
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 5: the hardest week ever for him and me.

483
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 3: Were you broken up or not?

484
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 6: We were broken up?

485
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you went to Aruba. M So you went

486
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 3: as friends? Yeah.

487
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 5: I think it was like he loved my family and

488
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 5: my friends and I didn't want him to feel isolated

489
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,719
Speaker 5: from that because him and I couldn't be together.

490
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 6: But I also.

491
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 4: Time out hold up this, I know, was it because

492
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 4: the trip was just booked.

493
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 5: The trip was booked and he ended up leaving early

494
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 5: you know. I mean, I think it was like he

495
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 5: just he couldn't do it, and it makes sense and

496
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 5: it was fair. But I think you have to understand,

497
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 5: like before we broke up, because I broke up with him,

498
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 5: you know, I think we were drifting a bit naturally.

499
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 6: But he still talked to my parents.

500
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 5: He you know, he still talked to my brother in

501
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 5: law and my best friend's fiance who does music, like

502
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 5: they were trying to get into the studio down in Florida,

503
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 5: and I was like, listen, bro, like, my people are

504
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 5: your people. I care about him. You know, I'm not

505
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 5: going to sit here and say he's a horrible guy.

506
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 5: That's the one thing that I just like, I hate

507
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 5: when people say because he doesn't doesn't mean bad.

508
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 6: He's just a loose you know.

509
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: I think that's also what we've been putting out there.

510
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 4: I said that we roast him, which we do, but

511
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 4: it's all out of him being aloof and not about

512
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 4: him being like bad.

513
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 6: Totally.

514
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, And.

515
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 5: You know, I think he's been through so much in

516
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 5: life and he is like a soldier for staying strong

517
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 5: through it all and being a support to his family.

518
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 5: I wanted him to feel supported. I didn't want him

519
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 5: to feel alone, you know. And I knew the breakup

520
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 5: was going to be hard on him. And I didn't

521
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 5: know if he was like I was his person that

522
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 5: was helping him get through the season. I didn't know

523
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 5: who he had, you know, and I didn't want him

524
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,199
Speaker 5: to be alone. That made me sad. And so I

525
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 5: think like it wasn't a weight off my shoulders because

526
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 5: I cared about him, and I was really uncertain about

527
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 5: how I felt like the person that I fell in

528
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 5: love with and that I knew like just like didn't

529
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 5: care about me in the way, like couldn't support me.

530
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 5: And I just I think I was down on myself.

531
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 5: I like I felt like I did myself dirty, you know.

532
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 5: And I in my head, all I could think was like,

533
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 5: come on now, Juliana, like get it together, Like you know,

534
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 5: you're smarter than this. You should have seen these red flags.

535
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 5: You should have picked up on these things. And I

536
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 5: and then now even to this day, like I feel

537
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 5: like it's this weird. When he went on when and

538
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: did his own podcast and said, like, you know, we

539
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 5: hadn't spoke and he didn't talk to my family. It

540
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 5: was like we broke up and he flew out to

541
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 5: show up to my fashion show without telling me and

542
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 5: because of the optics, And I'm like, so, don't sit

543
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 5: there and create this narrative that like I iced you out,

544
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 5: because that was the complete opposite of anything I was

545
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 5: ever trying to do to you and my family.

546
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 6: We would never do that.

547
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: I guess my curiosity is when did I mean, maybe

548
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: it hasn't so you have, but when did it start

549
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 2: to feel easier for you? I think I remember, well,

550
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: you know, we're trying to track like right after the breakup,

551
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 2: like how you both were feeling and I and tell

552
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong, and I just like dreamt this

553
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 2: because that can happen too. But I felt like there

554
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: was like an instagram that he did where he pretty

555
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: much said in some way or another like I don't

556
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: like miss you, or like I'm not like this isn't

557
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: hard for me, or something that's right that.

558
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 6: Yes, wasn't heartbroken.

559
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was. I wasn't heartbroken.

560
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 6: I am like, I don't know. That was like the

561
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 6: weirdest thing ever.

562
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 5: I think that that was again back to the aloof thing.

563
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 5: I think he was trying to come off this tough

564
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 5: didn't care about at your opinion, what you're saying vibes

565
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 5: I'm not heartbroken, like because he was butt hurt that

566
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 5: I broke up with him, you know, I think that

567
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 5: that was where that came from. But on such a

568
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 5: when you have such a following of people that like

569
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 5: are so curious and we're not giving them anything about

570
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 5: the breakup and you say you're not heartbroken.

571
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 6: Like, I was like, was he not?

572
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 2: You know?

573
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 5: Because I was like I am, and I'm so sad

574
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 5: and I'm like, you know, sitting here crying and you're

575
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 5: telling people that you don't even care about the breakup.

576
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 5: I was like it just it felt so hot and

577
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 5: cold all the time, like I was having a really

578
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: hard time understand standing him. True this day, I still am.

579
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 5: And that was I think explains kind of what I

580
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 5: mean when I say aloof like I just quit.

581
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 6: I can't figure him out, Yeah, if anybody can.

582
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, But that I mean from based on what you

583
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: were saying, like, hey, you didn't know who else he had.

584
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 2: You're trying to be there for him even though this

585
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: breakup happened and it was done, You're still trying to

586
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: be a support And that's a heavy weight to carry

587
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: for somebody, especially that had just recently gotten out of

588
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: this relationship. When did it feel When did you finally say, hey,

589
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: I can't, like I don't know what to do here,

590
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: so I'm just going to move on and he has

591
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: to figure this out on his own.

592
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 6: Honestly, it was pretty recently.

593
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 5: I will say I think that I, you know, I

594
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 5: have people online sending me his stuff, or when he

595
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 5: was doing podcasts and so was I and even Litia

596
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: doing podcasts. I think like for me, it was just

597
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 5: maybe honestly last month, it was like I was kind

598
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 5: of like, wow, I haven't thought about him in a minute,

599
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 5: you know, And I think I was seeing things maybe

600
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 5: online that he was kind of seeming like he was

601
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 5: doing well, and I was like it kind of made

602
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 5: me be able to breathe a little bit and just

603
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 5: be like, he's okay, he's not my problem, like not

604
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 5: the you know what I mean, but like and.

605
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 6: He's going to be okay.

606
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: So then I was like, Okay, now I can focus

607
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 5: on my healing and like getting myself back on my feet.

608
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: And so I started therapy again, and I started working

609
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: out again and hanging out with my friends and now

610
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 5: I'm having having a time with life again.

611
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 2: Are you dating?

612
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 6: Yeah?

613
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: I am like, you're like dating someone that you like.

614
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 3: I can tell.

615
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I am seeing somebody I got amazing.

616
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's new, but it's fun and it's flirty,

617
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 5: and I like that, you know, I like I think

618
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 5: that coming out of that, like it was so hard

619
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 5: that I think I've been taking things really really slow again,

620
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 5: and it put me back a little bit into my

621
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 5: old like I hate men vibe and I don't like

622
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,959
Speaker 5: I'm not a man hater. I'm not a woman hater, like,

623
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 5: and so I think now I was like, let me

624
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 5: just give this guy a shot. He's like blown me

625
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 5: up for like three straight months NonStop, and I've been

626
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 5: like ghosting him, and I was like, you know what's

627
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 5: through it? You're cute, So we're going to hang out.

628
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: I love it.

629
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: Yay?

630
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: Is he could be her New Year's date?

631
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 6: Yes, he's coming here for New Years?

632
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, congratulations already.

633
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 4: Well, so the other question I have, I must ask

634
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: that's such a weird thing to say, but we had

635
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: Carolina on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, and she.

636
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: Was an absolute hoot and she was like.

637
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: Her.

638
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, really very very entertaining, and she was like,

639
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 4: I was not the villain of my season.

640
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: And we were like, okay, well then who was? She

641
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: goes Juliana me.

642
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 6: Like some reasoning because it was mean, because I think that.

643
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: You like called her out.

644
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, like okay, I'm sorry that we can't handle conflict

645
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: in our years of life. I mean, listen, I think

646
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 5: that that was my last straw. I definitely had had

647
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 5: maybe a few glasses of wine that night, but I

648
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 5: was over.

649
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 6: We all suffered through it.

650
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 5: It was all we were talking about in interviews in

651
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 5: our couch mornings, and like her passing of like not

652
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 5: wanting to participate and then being a grouch.

653
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 6: I was like, why are you here?

654
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: She said, you about poking the bear always I was

655
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 4: poking the bear, as in like I guess she's the bear, right.

656
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, listen, I'm not I'm not a poker.

657
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 5: I have to say, like, I did my very very

658
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 5: damn best to stay in my own lane, and they

659
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 5: of course caught me swerving and if unfortunately I swerved

660
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 5: into Carolina's lane and then through this shit, I'm going

661
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 5: back to my lane because I don't want any part

662
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 5: of that and someone said one time, I forget who

663
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 5: it was that they were, like, production can't make you

664
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: look like an asshole if you're not an asshole. So

665
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 5: like they if they had clips of her being an asshole,

666
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 5: it was because she was being an asshole, you know,

667
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 5: and not saying that that makes her a villain, Like,

668
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 5: I'm sure she's a lovely human, but.

669
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 6: Like, you know, maybe you just should have gone.

670
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 5: Home because you did felt no good staying and being

671
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,239
Speaker 5: a grump and talking about the lead that you were

672
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 5: trying to date, and then being upset when.

673
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 6: He sent you home.

674
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: I love that you just said production can't make you

675
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: look like something unless you are something, because I that's

676
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: always been my argument is, Hey, they've definitely messed over

677
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: a few we could probably name those. However, for the

678
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: most part, when you do the things you do and

679
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: it's shown back on television you don't like the way

680
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: it looks, you might want to ask yourself, like, was

681
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 2: I and the wrong there? And what can I learn

682
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: from that? Which obviously you just said it. I think

683
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: it's awesome that you're back out dating. It takes some

684
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 2: people longer, but I think one of the best things

685
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 2: to do after something like this is to get back

686
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: out there again and to figure out what you're looking

687
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: for and a partner. I also love that you're back

688
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: in therapy. I think therapy was huge for me as

689
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 2: I tried to process this weird thing that I came through.

690
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 2: I'm sure at some point, though, therapy is going to

691
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: encourage you to reconcile. That seems to be a thing

692
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: in therapy is reconciliation and forgiveness. From the conversation we've had,

693
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like you have any Harbord like anger

694
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 2: towards Grant. You're just it's over, it's done, You've moved on.

695
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: But there's still and Carolina you didn't really probably even

696
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 2: think of until Ashley just brought her up and you're like, oh, yeah,

697
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: that girl that I had that thing with her. But

698
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: Latilla is still going to be this thing that like

699
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: sits over you, and it's going to be brought up

700
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 2: to you in conversations and interviews and on the streets

701
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: when fans stop you. Is there a chance in this

702
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: new year that you look to reconcile, maybe not to

703
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: build a front like the best friendship, but to reconcile

704
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: something with Latia After the months that have passed.

705
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 5: Now totally, I mean, listen, I think it would only

706
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 5: be good for me, and hopefully it would be good

707
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 5: for her. I think holding on to such negative emotions

708
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 5: around the whole thing and having it be a topic

709
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 5: of conversation it is hard for I'm sure her too.

710
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 5: I would love for it to be over and done with.

711
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 5: And I don't know what the hesitancy is on my

712
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 5: end to reach out. Maybe it's because I'm still hurt

713
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 5: from it and I need to get over that before

714
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 5: or I try and mend the bridge. I don't like

715
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 5: to be fake. I don't like to just, you know, apologize,

716
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 5: to apologize. I would want to mean it, you know,

717
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 5: and I would, really and I do. I feel bad

718
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 5: if there's things that I've said that have caused her

719
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 5: harm or hurt or negative emotions. And same with Carolina,

720
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 5: you know, and even Zoe, Like you know, I'm not

721
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 5: perfect and neither are they, so I can't. I can't

722
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 5: hold on to it anymore. But I just I think

723
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 5: I just need some more time. And it's so weird

724
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 5: that I feel like I could have forgiven Grant and

725
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 5: not the girls, But I think we were closer. You know,

726
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 5: in some odd way, it's like you spend more time

727
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 5: with them, you feel like you have a relationship friendship

728
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: with them, and then when things kind of get turned

729
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 5: around and things are said and feelings are hurt, it

730
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 5: hurts a little bit more, you know, because you wouldn't

731
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 5: expect that from girls, girls, and they are girls girls.

732
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I think we all were. We

733
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 5: were so supportive. And I said this in the Bachelor

734
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 5: Happy Hour podcast.

735
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: It was like.

736
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 5: Filming was so phenomenal, Like yeah, it was afterwards that

737
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 5: things started to get so weird between all of us,

738
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 5: and that hurt me like so bad. I like came

739
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 5: out of that like with this newfound confidence and I

740
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, I just made like twenty

741
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 5: freaking friends and they were all girls, and like we were.

742
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: So nice, and.

743
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 5: Then they kind of started getting weird and uncomfortable, and

744
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 5: I was getting anxious in my handling this correctly.

745
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 6: What can I do better? Like what did I do

746
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 6: to them?

747
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 5: And it just took me down like a dark path,

748
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 5: like mentally about myself. And that's when I was kind

749
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 5: of like, Okay, I don't know these girls. They're not

750
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: my friends. They don't owe me anything, So I need

751
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 5: to heal myself before I have a relationship with them

752
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: in this environment.

753
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's respectable.

754
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 4: Also, like, I imagine this happens a lot with the

755
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: final three, especially because you kind of, yeah, at the

756
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 4: end of it, you guys are very secluded from each other,

757
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: and then you watch it back on TV and I

758
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 4: really can't imagine. Then there's some weird scenarios like Katie

759
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: and Gabby where they're best friends. Yeah, so you know,

760
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: it all turns out differently, but I totally understand where

761
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: you're coming from with that. That would that would probably

762
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 4: be harder for me to get over as well the

763
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: girl relationship.

764
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if this is like a

765
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 6: weird view. You know.

766
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 5: I don't think I knew exactly what to expect in

767
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 5: the finale, but for some reason, I didn't expect that

768
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 5: from her. I could sense Grant was very anxious, and

769
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 5: I could sense he wasn't being fully honest with me

770
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 5: the night before when he was like, what if she

771
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 5: says this and what if she like lies?

772
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 6: And I was like, well, why are you feeling like

773
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 6: it's gonna go that way?

774
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: You know?

775
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 5: I was like, is there something in particular you're nervous about,

776
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 5: and he was like, no, no, no. And in that situation,

777
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 5: I am not able to watch it live, so I'm

778
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 5: kind of just waiting for my moment to come out

779
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 5: and hope, you know, he's okay. And he made it through,

780
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 5: and I saw him before we went on stage together,

781
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 5: and he was like literally like looked pale as a

782
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 5: ghosts And my mom got up from her seat watching

783
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 5: it and like went to go find me, and production

784
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 5: went like chasing after her.

785
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 6: I was like, ma'am, like get back to your seat.

786
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 6: She's like, screw you, throw this. I'm getting my daughter

787
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 6: out of here.

788
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 4: But I was wondering how much acting you had to

789
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 4: do when you were on the hot seat.

790
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 5: I don't I think I was luckily ignorant to what

791
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 5: had just happened to some extreme. I mean, to some extent,

792
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 5: but I have to be honest, Like I was so

793
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 5: nervous that I was going to fall or like I

794
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 5: don't know. I just was like I want I was

795
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 5: going to throw up. That's how I felt like being

796
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:54,720
Speaker 5: on stage in front of all those people.

797
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 6: I don't even know.

798
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: I think I blacked out. Regardless of whether I think

799
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 5: I knew what had happened or not, Like I was

800
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 5: just like sitting smiling pretty and just trying to get through.

801
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 6: It's I can get off stage.

802
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: It is such a weird. Yeah, the final three is

803
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: always interesting. I mean during Caitlin season was on the Bachelorette,

804
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: obviously Nick and Sean almost went to fisticuffs over the

805
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 2: over the over the finals, and then when I was

806
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: a bachelor, you know you do it is nerve wracking.

807
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: I get what Grant was thinking, is Hey, is she

808
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: going to get out there and just tear me up.

809
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: It didn't happen in my scenario because I think I

810
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: had I think, well, I think Jojo knew she was

811
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: going to be the next Bachelorette, and so I think

812
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 2: she was like, I'm going to come in here and

813
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: just be kind and nice to Ben and then we're

814
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: going to get out of here and I'm going to

815
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: get announced as the Bachelorette and everything's gonna be good,

816
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 2: which I'm very thankful for. Yeah, it's it's really hard

817
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: for somebody in your seat though. I think Juliana, we've

818
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: talked so much now about your experience on the show.

819
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: I really want to know, are you glad you did it.

820
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot right now that we've discussed, right like

821
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: a breakup that's been hard, and finding things out about

822
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 2: Grant that maybe didn't lend well towards a future relationship,

823
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 2: and then the friendships that have taken a pause. I'm

824
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 2: not going to say they ended. I think they come back,

825
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 2: and I think that's going to be really fun time

826
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: for all of us. But as you sit here today,

827
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: are you glad that you went on this show?

828
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 5: I think that that's an easy yes. You know, I

829
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 5: wouldn't have had the experiences. I wouldn't have grown into

830
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 5: the person that I am. And I also, frankly don't

831
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 5: think I would have been dating, you know, if I

832
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 5: didn't go on that. I was why I was such

833
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 5: a like, I don't know, I just was not dating before.

834
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 5: I didn't date anybody, I like.

835
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 4: To say with me, but I was like so nervous

836
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: about it, and then afterward I was like, whatever.

837
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, to date on TV, you can do it in

838
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: real life totally.

839
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 5: And I just think, you know, I've grown a lot,

840
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm like, I'm just so thankful for

841
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 5: it all, and for all of the obstacles that I've

842
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 5: had to overcome, Like I just feel I'm different in

843
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: a good way. And there are some things that I

844
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 5: see about myself now that I love. And there are

845
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 5: some things I see about myself that I've been paying

846
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 5: a little bit more attention to and trying to work on.

847
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 6: You know.

848
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 5: So I think all around, if you look at it

849
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 5: through the right lens, you know, you can't go wrong

850
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 5: dating on TV.

851
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 6: I agree.

852
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: All right.

853
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 4: Wait, I want to give you an opportunity to talk

854
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 4: about your clothing line with your sister.

855
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,919
Speaker 6: Oh thank you, Oh my god, that's so sweet. It's

856
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 6: going so well.

857
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 5: It's called Nice Girls Label and it is an honor

858
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 5: of my grandmother, whose phrase was it's nice to be nice.

859
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 5: And it's really just building a community of women, mostly

860
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 5: in Boston, but we do sell our clothes online, but

861
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 5: we have all different events going on. We're partnering with

862
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 5: a bunch of local businesses, brands, foundations to just have

863
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 5: fun and create a community of of coziness and love and.

864
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 3: Love the cozy.

865
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 4: This is one thing I say that's always worth either

866
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: spending on or gifting it is cozy clothes because you.

867
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 3: Know they'll always be worn. I you know, buy jeans oh.

868
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: My gosh, the amount of jeans that are in my

869
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 4: closet that are never worn, but the amount of yoga

870
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 4: pants and sweatpants that are worn, They're just always worth

871
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 4: the bod.

872
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, totally. I live in loungewear. I'm literally wearing

873
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 6: like I like live in it, especially in the winter.

874
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, you are not seeing me in like jeans?

875
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 3: Ever, I love never never in jeans in the winter

876
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: it's too cold.

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Speaker 2: Nice girls label dot com is where people can go

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Speaker 2: to find it. I love this conversation because my wife,

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Speaker 2: you know, I we've been living together for four years now.

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Speaker 2: When she puts on jeans and like a nice shirt,

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Speaker 2: like I can, she wants me to notice because she's

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00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: like I think she just is like I've lived in

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Speaker 2: sweatpants and sweatshirts for so long that like, look at me,

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Speaker 2: I'm dressed up today, and I'm like, you look like

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Speaker 2: you look every day going to school and now, oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, I know, thinking.

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Speaker 4: About like what I would wear to college and grad

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Speaker 4: school and especially high school.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: You know college you have your.

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Speaker 4: Webpans stays for sure, especially like before noon classes. But

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Speaker 4: oh my gosh, I used to dress me too.

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Speaker 3: I wore jeans every.

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Speaker 4: Single day to high school maybe at wear sweats like every.

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Speaker 6: Other week, like I did full glam.

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Speaker 3: I like lamb.

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Speaker 6: I mean I've been like hang out with like fifteen

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Speaker 6: year olds, I know.

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Speaker 4: And if I didn't do it before, I did it

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Speaker 4: on the school bus and that everybody in the hallways

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Speaker 4: saw me put together.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. I would never do makeup before seven am.

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Speaker 3: Now I never.

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Speaker 6: You're lucky if I put makeup on my face.

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Speaker 2: This is why Nice Girls label is not only needed

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Speaker 2: right now, it's also building this community you spoke about.

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Speaker 2: I think gets I'm looking at the website. It's really great,

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Speaker 2: really and so sure you go check it out. Juliana,

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Speaker 2: thanks for coming on, Thanks for giving us the time

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Speaker 2: this holiday season. It's it's really special to talk to you.

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Speaker 2: And goodness. I mean, I just want to say. My

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Speaker 2: take from this is that what like I'm learning from

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Speaker 2: you as I'm listening to you about how to like

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Speaker 2: walk through something so uniquely weird. I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: say difficult or hard or bad or good. It's just weird,

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Speaker 2: and you're going to learn a lot about yourself. Do

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Speaker 2: us a favor, though, if this relationship ends up, any relationship,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say this one. Don't put the pressure

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Speaker 2: on it. If any relationship or any big things happen

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Speaker 2: in your life, please let us know so you can

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Speaker 2: come back on and talk to us. It would be

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Speaker 2: a gift to keep keep track and not do all

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Speaker 2: this weird guessing based on social media posts that have

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Speaker 2: been put out there, or like, do they hate each other?

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Speaker 2: Do they like each other? Were they ever together? Just

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Speaker 2: now come on chat with us. It would be a

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Speaker 2: gift to everybody listening and to Ashley myself. So, Juliana,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us today.

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much for having me. Thank you

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Speaker 6: brother so lovely.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we'll talk to you soon, hopefully. Until next time,

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Speaker 3: I've been Ashley.

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Speaker 2: And I've been Ben, We'll see you soon.

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