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Speaker 1: some delicious champagne. This is very How do you say

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. It was truly the James Lafferty episode caveat.

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Speaker 1: because our bosses were shortsighted enough to not make Brian Greenberg,

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Speaker 1: one of the actual series regular leads thee But yeah,

426
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: he went and he literally left after this season. You know,

427
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: Hillary wasn't joking. Oh he went and did a movie

428
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: with Uma Thurman and Meryl Streep. Meryl Streep was playing

429
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: his mom, Hullo. So of course he went to do that.

430
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't he. He deserved that. But it it really

431
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: did disrupt the through line of our show. And I

432
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: will say it again, you losing Greenberg, man, I lost

433
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:27,640
Speaker 1: Cooper and we furious good. Yeah, there's there's a whole

434
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: other reality that our show could have been. Yeah, I

435
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: want to watch that other dimension. I want to watch

436
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 1: the Tree Hill in the next dimension to those are

437
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: the people we wound up with. I want to see

438
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: where the show go. Do you think we have enough

439
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: just like footage out there from the nine years, that

440
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: someone could splice something together and make fan fiction of

441
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: it and make it look like we dated those people forever.

442
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: I saw something once where someone spliced one Tree Hill

443
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: was Supernatural and made it look like I had dated

444
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 1: Jensen's character and then got together with Jeffrey's character and

445
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: I was like, you cross but weird. Someone out there

446
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: was editing their brains out and they were just like

447
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: they love that as a project. Is there a way

448
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 1: we could do like a contest around that, like people

449
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: could actually enter scenes like this, like they could make

450
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: the visual mood board and then someone could win something. Listen.

451
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: I haven't thought it. There's enough footage of like like

452
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 1: Truco from other shows and of Greenberg from like all

453
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: the rom coms he's done that someone can edit us

454
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: alternate universe. Yeah, alternate, but how would that work for us?

455
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: It's just for fun, don't be so little. Instead of

456
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,639
Speaker 1: being master coverage coverage, which is how we shoot every scene,

457
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: there's no master, it's just coverage, coverage. You're together fine,

458
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: all right. This was also a debut of brand Greenberg

459
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 1: singing on the show. I loved that little moment it

460
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: where he said to you, you gotta watch out for

461
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: those musicians. That was so he gets up on stage

462
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: and says, you know, get my side gig, and Peyton

463
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: didn't realize that he'd taken her there so he could

464
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: sing to her. Yeah, Peyton not know he was a musician, Like, well,

465
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: she knew. I mean he sung the Elliott Smith song

466
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: and all those babies. But this is the first time

467
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: we see him in a band, like actually not just

468
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 1: not in his house. Yeah, because you guys also had

469
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: a lot of heavy stuff to be dealing with. Your

470
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: entire storyline has been so fraught, so you know, I

471
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: think it makes sense. It's the first time he's like,

472
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: my life is lining up a little bit. Here's what

473
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: I really love to do. Was goddamn. So why didn't

474
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: Peyton go to the college design in Savannah? Guys? It

475
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 1: was such a simple solution. She didn't because Greenberg was

476
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,479
Speaker 1: off kissing him a Thurman. That's why Peyton did. That's

477
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 1: why Peyton win worked at a record label in l A. Yeah,

478
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: Greenberg ruined college for Peyton Sawyer, who I mean, really,

479
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Uma Thurman and Meryl Street ruined college for people also

480
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: blame Muma. Sounds like a great band. That was the

481
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: name of Jake's band in this episode. Blame Uma, poor thing. Um.

482
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: To be clear, we really do love Thurman. Yeah, it's

483
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: a good joke. We're not we need to say that.

484
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Suddenly I get I'm like,

485
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: she's listening to the episode, but like, you know, one

486
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: of those tabloids is going to be like the one

487
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: Tree Girls attack Uma Thurman and it's like, nah, attack

488
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: founder on this here's what they say, opens up about

489
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: lashes out at and I'm like, what are you all

490
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: talking about. We're sitting here with classes of champagne laughing. Guys.

491
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: I think we have the same taste in men as

492
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: Uma Thurman. Because right about the times, right about the

493
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: time we lost Greenberg, like the year after that, she

494
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: was shooting a rom com with Jeffrey and yeah, they

495
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: did um Accidental Husband together and and that was like

496
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: the first thing I've ever seen him in and I

497
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: was like, I already lost a dude to that chick.

498
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: Maybe blame Uma is the name of this episode. We

499
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: have so many good episode titles we do, we might

500
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: have to put them on shirts. Yeah. Yeah, we'll just

501
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: have like thirties seven titles for this one. This is

502
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: going to be a long summary, not like when bands

503
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: go on tours in the back of the tour shirt

504
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: is all the cities. We can just have a back

505
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 1: of a tour shirt with all the episode titles we've

506
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: ever come up with. It's good, actually like it. Someone

507
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: write that down. We're trying to come up with merch

508
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: right now for you guys, and it's really been a

509
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: chore because there's so many ideas and you know, we

510
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: want to make it cool and not something that you're

511
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: gonna not wear, um, or we wear something that we

512
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: would wear and use, you know, so um send us

513
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: your ideas. It's actually very difficult to find good merge. Guys.

514
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: We never knew me. Yeah, we thought we had plenty

515
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: of time and now we're totally scram Let's just sell

516
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: our cheerle in uniforms. You know, I'm gonna I love

517
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: you have your cheerleading uniform of course I do. Are

518
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: you kidding me? No? Are you going to wear it

519
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: for Villain's Night. I wonder you could fit into it.

520
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: You look amazing. Why don't say that day. I'm just

521
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: genuinely like, oh man, we were children, Like I feel

522
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: like my hips have grown stop. Okay, So this episode

523
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Speaker 1: is airing October six are our last tour date is

524
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: October nineteen in Philadelphia. We've got villains Dan Scott and

525
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: Nanny Carey with us, and so I think we need

526
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: to encourage everyone who's coming to that show to dress

527
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: as your You could be your favorite OT character or

528
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: your favorite villain. Yeah, oh, any character. You're going to

529
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: have so many, so much comic con vibes. I love it.

530
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, should we dress up as ourselves on

531
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 1: the show? Or like, can we dress up as Joanne?

532
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: I want to do that so bad. I was a

533
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: full episode for Halloween. I made the wings, do you remember? Yes?

534
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: Yes I did, Marianne. I made these wings out of

535
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: like a cage. It was amazed. Remember the last week

536
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: we were like, we should do that? Yes, I want

537
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: to do it? Wait should every single day of my life?

538
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: I've got no boobs, no bra, slip, dress, black and

539
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: white hair, dot. I have a good crew. Ella wag

540
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: at home. I did a good crew ella for Halloween

541
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Oh that's fun. We should

542
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: talk about this villain because he did my favorite scene

543
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: in this episode. Paul. He really was. Although I we

544
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: had seen a little bit more of the turn, it

545
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,239
Speaker 1: was kind of sudden, like after everything that he's been

546
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: through and as much as we've walked through him, I

547
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: love you, I hate you, I love you, I hate

548
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: you everything. That's fine. I'm better now. I'm not a

549
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: psychopath weight I actually still am a psychopath. There's been

550
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: so much of that that it felt cheap. That he

551
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: was turning is like another turn. Okay, now he's sorry.

552
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: Paul pulled it off in terms of acting and making

553
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: it believable because he was so sincere, and you know

554
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: his eyes where he was he was tearing and clearly

555
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: very emotional. But it's still I wanted there to be

556
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: a journey through the episode of us understanding what caused

557
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: that turn for real, I mean not fake. Him being

558
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: kicked out of that game was humiliating him being him,

559
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: knowing that humiliated Nathan, like initiating the restraining order. You

560
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: can't blame deb for that, you know, And it's the

561
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: biggest night of Nathan's life, and it's a success thing,

562
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: and he sees Haley's there for everything he's tried to

563
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: obstruct is now getting built as a wall against him.

564
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: And and so I think with narcissists they do kind

565
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: of like crack in that really fast way. It's like

566
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: a like where his voice catches in that scene. I

567
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: don't know that he's expecting because it's not manufactured, because

568
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: it's not like alright, I'm gonna go approach my son,

569
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry, I'm gonna make him feel a certain way,

570
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: and then I'm gonna walk away. I think Dan Scott

571
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: was surprised that he got emotional in that way so quickly.

572
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: I think you're right actually when you said narcissists, that's

573
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: true because that they only can feel empathy when it

574
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: affects them. Like they can get emotional, but it's only

575
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: because something that they care about is threatened. It's not

576
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do with how another person feels or

577
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: what they're going through. Well, that makes sense, and when

578
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: the perception of who they are that they've built is threatened.

579
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 1: And I think powerful to watch the arc for Dan

580
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: that rage scene at the top by the episode of

581
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: a house and in the driveway screaming at Nathan about

582
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: how this will always be my house and all those things.

583
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: And then when he goes to Nathan and Haley's apartment

584
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: and he listens to their conversation through the window, and

585
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: here's how good Haley is for Nathan sees how supportive

586
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: and loving their relationship is. Here's Nathan talk about how

587
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: he just does not have the bandwidth to have a

588
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 1: relationship with his father and yet it sucks, but this

589
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: is what it is. And then he goes in to

590
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: your point, has a plan, goes in as the mayor

591
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: goes to the game, knows what he's gonna say to

592
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 1: win everybody over because of all the information he collected today,

593
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: he's had time to launch a plot. And then he

594
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: gets escorted out by the cops and the whole, the

595
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: whole house of cards falls, and I mean him sitting

596
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: in the car breaking the fourth of all, looking at

597
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: why what in the world was that? For the people

598
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: who didn't watch the there's a shot of Dan Scott

599
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: and like the side driver mirror and he he's listening

600
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: to the radio. He looks often in the mirror. But

601
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: then looks right into the lens of the camera, and

602
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: we're like, is he going to talk to us? Like,

603
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: is he breaking the fourth Yeah? I don't think he

604
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,479
Speaker 1: was looking in the lens. I think he was looking

605
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,959
Speaker 1: off to the side of the lens, but it looked

606
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: like he was looking right in and they should have adjusted.

607
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: It was weird and by the way, just knowing because

608
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: we made the show all of us together. Clearly, the

609
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: idea was that he's looking at himself and he sees

610
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: himself alone outside and the dark, listening to the radio

611
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: like it's you know, nine, and you know that. They

612
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: were like, ah, we kind of can't tell on the monitor,

613
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: So look at yourself, look in the mirror at the camera,

614
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: look look into the mirror to keep looking left. Okay,

615
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 1: hold that Okay, Like they give and somebody in the

616
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: edit chose the one where he's looking at us strugging

617
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: down the bear all the lens. I was like, wow, that,

618
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if anybody's going to break the fourth would

619
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: anyone on our show ever break the fourth hole? Did

620
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: we ever do every other device in storytelling? No? Man,

621
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: I mean I guess audibly that's what the narration is,

622
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: but no, not visually I can't imagine. I can I

623
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: can't imagine them being like, let's have a Ferris Bueller's

624
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: Day Off episode. You guys, what are we doing here? Yeah,

625
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: a little bottle episode like that. You guys can put

626
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: that into our alternate universe montage that you're out there

627
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: creating for us. Just break the wall. Um what I

628
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: was seeing, James, Um, I mean Nathan, sorry, fight for

629
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: staying in when he had that yescar he got the

630
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: wound from Damian Damian West, Okay, talk about that because

631
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: you and this dude, I mean, he laid it on

632
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: you pretty thick. He did. He was he was a

633
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: nice guy, but he had to be so smarmy. And

634
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: I remember being really he just went for it with

635
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: the way that he was like grabbing me and stuff,

636
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: which I remember him in the gym, yeah, which is fine.

637
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: And I don't remember whether I said, like, just go

638
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: for it, because that sounds like something I would say,

639
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: is like, don't worry about because he was polite and everything,

640
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: and I was like, it won't look real if you're

641
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: faking it. Just come at me and I'll push you off.

642
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm smaller than you. You'll be able to

643
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: handle it. Um. I put up a pretty I'm pretty scrappy. Um. Yeah,

644
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: but that was it was funny. I liked how the

645
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: first time we met him he was so over the

646
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: top and both both James and I were so nonplussed.

647
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: But anyway, at the end, it was really cool to see, uh,

648
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: the interaction between Nathan and Whitey, uh with with him

649
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: being like, no, just stitch me up and let let

650
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: me go back out. We needed at It was very

651
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: sweet and human and you could see everyone's priorities and relationships.

652
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: Even the fact that Whitey, you know, looks at Coach

653
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: k and goes his mother's mad. This was your idea.

654
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: It's such a real thing, you know that That whole

655
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: the whole sequence that at that game felt really special. Yeah.

656
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: I loved the game. It was interesting to not have

657
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: Lucas or Karen in the episode at all, but Nathan

658
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: puts on Lucas's jersey right. That was sweet. Yeah, but

659
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: I was okay with it. I kind of liked it

660
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: was a bit of the soap opera tactic where you

661
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: don't watch everybody's storyline every week. You you kind of

662
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: bounced back and forth, or some episodes that people just

663
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: aren't in um And I liked it. I liked being

664
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: able to really spend time with Peyton and Jake because

665
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: this was largely you guys episode, I mean more than

666
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: it was Nathan's episode. This is this is Nathan's style.

667
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: I would say, it's between the two of you. Yeah,

668
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: I mean, Nathan had that, had the monol log, but um,

669
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: we hadn't gotten to really spend time with you and

670
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: Jake like that and so long, and I needed it

671
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: as an audience member. I needed that just so great

672
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: And it was so nice after so much heaviness to

673
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: see Peyton really be happy. And Peyton is happy with

674
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: Jake and and then she says, no, do you want

675
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: to get married? Lost it because these two were like,

676
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: oh cute and like what gross? You're seventeen years to

677
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: be be specific, Hillary said, kids, I mean I remember

678
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: thinking I was going to get married at seventeen years old,

679
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: Like like I had this friend who was real bohemian

680
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: and like made his own like sandals out of old

681
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: tires and things. Don't remember he gave me a rubber

682
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: band one night and he was like, did you're engaged

683
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: to ring? Why don't we just get married? We live

684
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: on a boat, and I was like, Okay, do you

685
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: know what? Actually, okay, yeah, that sounds hot. Um never

686
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: kissed that dude, never dated him. I just thought like,

687
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: why not? Yeah? Yeah, alright, kids? Kids? Oh so sweet

688
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: and earnest? Do you want to get married? Should we

689
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: just do this? Also? Anna from Frozen just been crazy,

690
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god away I Also, I was glad to

691
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: get an answer so quickly because when you walked outside

692
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: and sat on the porch and that scene, you just

693
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: looked so upset, and for all you guys at home,

694
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: the three of us were like, wait, what happened? Do

695
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: we miss something? Why is petting upset? I didn't understand

696
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: what was happening. Yeah, and you were like I don't

697
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: even know. I did the scene and we're all sitting here,

698
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: going have we did the TV glitch? Like what? And

699
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: then you asked and we went it's the nerves. Do

700
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: you know speaking nerves? Um, it's not until we just

701
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: started talking about it, but I have this like visceral

702
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: memory of the scene where we come in the house

703
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 1: and it's like it's not gonna work, it's not gonna work.

704
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: And I closed the door to the bedroom and I'm

705
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 1: like I'll just see you tomorrow, and having to stand

706
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: on the other side of the door from Greenberg and

707
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 1: like wait for my queue to open the door, because

708
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: then I know that we're going to kiss right after that.

709
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: I remember being so paranoid because I was wearing like

710
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,800
Speaker 1: a lower cut shirt and my I could see my

711
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: own heart beating in my chest, and because I was

712
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: so nervous and like it wasn't real, but but my

713
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: body was. My body knew it was real. My body

714
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna close this door. I don't want

715
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: to open this door. It's so ross and Rachel, Yeah,

716
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't. That's exactly what it was. But yeah, that's

717
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: sense memory. Yeah. Isn't that funny how you're body can

718
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: believe something that your mind knows is not true. Well,

719
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: that's the thing. That's why so many actors are so

720
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: screwed up with each other, because I mean, think about

721
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: our show, like you said it, how many episodes ago

722
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: when you were like, oh, everybody was kissing everybody, Like

723
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, I put a bunch of actors in

724
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: a small town with nothing to do. Come on, It's

725
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: interesting because chemistry, you know, if you have like a

726
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: really intensely emotional scene and you have to cry for

727
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: eight hours and you wake up the next day and

728
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: your whole body aches. You feel like you've been run over,

729
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: Like it's real for your body, and it takes it

730
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: takes so much work to process that stuff. And god,

731
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's like all the mental health awesome experts

732
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: and like semantic teachers on Instagram that I follow now,

733
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, all the young actors today, I'm so

734
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: glad you guys have this these resources. We didn't know anything.

735
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: What does this semantic semantic teacher? What's that word? Man?

736
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: It's like, um, you know your whole parasympathetic nervous system

737
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 1: has experience. And like you can store trauma in the body,

738
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: you can store anxiety in the body, so can you

739
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: store love for Jake? Ki can confirm, can convert. It's

740
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: like the way you talk about that reaction you have,

741
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: like to Ellie's jacket. That's and there's like work you

742
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: can do with breathing and like stretch. Oh my god,

743
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: do you want to tell I don't know. It's great, No,

744
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: it is amazing, but like it was just it was

745
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: so like intense and cool, but there's all that stuff

746
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: that you can do two unlock and like process those

747
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: things out. And to paraphrase a story that I told

748
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: these lads that night, I was long. I saw this

749
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: amazing acupuncturist too helped me like realign something in my body.

750
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: And when I tell you guys that, I like burst

751
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: into tears and had memories from the summer that I

752
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: think I was like thirteen or fourteen, like it was.

753
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: I was sobbing and I was just like, oh my god,

754
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: and this sweet little old man looks at me and

755
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: he goes it happens all the time, It's okay. And

756
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, because just met it's been eleven minutes.

757
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: Thank you. I don't know that that was in my

758
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: most a fruitful one. I mean that that's happened to

759
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 1: me on massage tables, not not that that extent, but

760
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody hits the right spot all of

761
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: a sudden, it releases something. And I'm like, why am

762
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: I emotional right now? What I told you? Giving me

763
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 1: a facial the other day, they keep calling me darling

764
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: and my sweet girl, and she had to keep wiping

765
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: my tears away. I was just like, because our bodies

766
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: are our tool. Right, It's like, I don't know how

767
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: many professions there are where it's your body is like

768
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: the thing you're selling. You know that sounds terrible, but

769
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: but we're artists. Like that's part of it is weird,

770
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: and that's it's why it was so scandalous for a

771
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: woman to be on stage four years ago, because it

772
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 1: was it was like akin to prostitution. Basically, you're selling

773
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: your body for the sake of entertainment or something. Obviously,

774
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: we've we've advanced a lot in our understanding of what

775
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 1: art is and you know, what's worth I think worth

776
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: telling a story before pro athletes eat, measure, train, work out,

777
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, do pt all these things because their bodies

778
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: are their tool. But their bodies are not required to

779
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 1: go through psychological experiments. Every day. We put ourselves into

780
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: the psychology of other people, their trauma, their loss, their love,

781
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: their addiction, there, whatever it is, and for your body,

782
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: it's yours. And so to begin to learn how to

783
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 1: process that out, how to how to actually separate those

784
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: things in your subconscious like you have to take it seriously.

785
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: It's not um. That's probably why I get so annoyed

786
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: when working on something and I see actors come on

787
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 1: the set and they don't take it seriously and they

788
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: don't care and they're just like, I don't know my

789
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 1: lines or whatever. It's all we're just fun, like we're

790
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: just doing this and we're doing a TV show, which

791
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: you're like, You're like, do you know what I'm doing

792
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: to my body right now? This? Like, I take this.

793
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: I take art really seriously. I take storytelling very seriously.

794
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: It's meaningful. It changes people's lives. Not every job is

795
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: going to change somebody's lives, but it's all building two

796
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: different opportunities and you never know when you're going to

797
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,840
Speaker 1: tell a story that's going to hit somebody in a

798
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: certain way. And our show is a great case in

799
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: point for that. So, um yeah, I think it's really

800
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: meaningful what artists do, and I take it seriously, and

801
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 1: I it's it's hard to there's not a lot of

802
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: resources for us psychologically as artists to know how to

803
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: untangle ourselves from things like that. It's weird. I remember

804
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: doing a pilot once and I had this sequence of

805
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 1: like six or seven guys that I was that my

806
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: character was sleeping with, and it was um and there

807
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: was a point to it. It's like it was talking

808
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 1: about kind of her life, and there was a little

809
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: bit of like this is empty. I feel so like

810
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: why do I just keep doing this over and over?

811
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: But the sequence when we had to shoot it, it

812
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: was I mean, we shot it all in one afternoon

813
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: and it was like me just in pasties, like slammed

814
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: up against a wall and in a bed and up

815
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: against a window with a different guy, and then like

816
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: all the different spots and it was fine. Everyone was professional,

817
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: it was very it was as perfect of a of

818
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: a safe environment as it could be. But I got

819
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: home and I felt gross and I took a shower

820
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: and I cried and I was like, my body feels

821
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: like it just went through something. And it's hard to

822
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: know psychologically, like where to put that. It really is, yeah,

823
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think and I don't think the answer

824
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: is don't do it, because as I said, I take

825
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: art seriously and I think it's valuable. But but I

826
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: think that's why, you know, I'm really thrilled that we

827
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: get to do this every week. I'm really thrilled that

828
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 1: we get to be alive in this moment where there's

829
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: more accessible resources and more open conversations about this than ever,

830
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: because we didn't have any of this when we were

831
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: twenty two helping talk when well, we would have known

832
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: the dumb we shouldn't wouldn't have done. I just had

833
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: a fruitian slip. I go, the dumb we shouldn't we

834
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done. It's yeah, it's really it's wild. And

835
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: I wonder too, you know, we talk a lot like,

836
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: I wounder if James's body really did it because he

837
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: had to take after take after take after take of

838
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: this basketball stuff. What you guys see is one of

839
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, it's a fraction of what he actually had

840
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 1: to do. You see three to nine minutes of scenes,

841
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: and it took eighteen hours the court, NonStop. That's what

842
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 1: I was to say, though, I really wonder. We talk

843
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: a lot about, you know, how much fun it is

844
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: to watch James in an episode like this, how much

845
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: he's grown his confidence, his strength, hiss like, he's just

846
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 1: like raw ability, And I wonder how much his lifelong

847
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Speaker 1: career as a basketball player helped feed his embodiment as

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Speaker 1: an actor, because like, he's so you watched him in

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Speaker 1: these scenes, he's so his body he looks like a tree,

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Speaker 1: He's like ruded does look and I really will have

851
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Speaker 1: to ask him about that when at the end of

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Speaker 1: the game get Tree. So we have a listener question

853
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: from Shannon. She says, as people who play such strong,

854
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Speaker 1: independent females on TV and are portrayed as such badass

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00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: thank you. How do you carry that energy through to

856
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: your personal life and do you ever feel like it's

857
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: a lot to live up to or it becomes too much?

858
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that we are pretty transparent

859
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: about being messy. Yeah, Like that's probably the most important

860
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Speaker 1: part of it, is not trying to portray something bullet Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I think that would be a huge disservice

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Speaker 1: to women everywhere who listened to our show, or girls

863
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: that looked up to us as they were growing up.

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Speaker 1: You have to you have to be honest about how

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Speaker 1: hard it is to juggle all the things. You know,

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Speaker 1: nobody's perfect, and I think it's really interesting to have

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Speaker 1: uh in a way you know you Shannon today, the

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Speaker 1: way you reflect appearance back at us, because I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say that any of the three of us feel like

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Speaker 1: we're you know, independent, strong, bad access who just like

871
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: carry it weird. We're all going like we don't know

872
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: what we're doing. We call each other with a lot

873
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: of tears. We like, I don't know. I I feel

874
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: like an emotional mush ball all the time, and so

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Speaker 1: I think it can be such a lesson to remember

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00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: that you can. You can give things to people that

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00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: you're not even aware of. I wonder how your friends

878
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 1: think about you, how people who love you see you

879
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: in ways that maybe you don't see yourself, but you

880
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: need to. You know, you all remind us what we're

881
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 1: capable of when the three of us are sitting here

882
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: going we have no idea what we're doing, and that

883
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: that's really a gift. So thanks for that. I have

884
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:48,399
Speaker 1: nothing to add to that said, thank you nailed it well.

885
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: You know great questions. We get great answers from Stacy.

886
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: What do you think your character is? Shower song would

887
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: be what does that mean? Like the song you sing

888
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: in the shower? Yeah? I don't Hayley's shower song, I know.

889
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: I feel like it's I think it's like some rap

890
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: song from the eighties or Don't Go Chasing a Lot

891
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: of Fun. Yeah, I like that. I feel like Brooks

892
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: shower song would be Hit me with your best shot. Yeah,

893
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 1: don't you. Yeah, I think Peyton's is all by myself.

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00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: Do you want to be? Oh? I gotta se Oh

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00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: my god, Joy, I want to need you to sing

896
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: that song? Wait? Will you please sing it? Hits the

897
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: high notes? Man? Wait, this is me. This is my

898
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: best Shakira doing Selena? Yes, yes, yes, wait? Is that song? Oh? Wait?

899
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna do that one? No? Okay u what

900
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: is it? When else? I never needed anymore making loves

901
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: just for fun? He's just gone. Oh I don't want

902
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: to be seeing a girl. Oh my god, you champaign?

903
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god? How did I like that question? Okay, Joy,

904
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Speaker 1: that's my new ring tone, by the way, genius. Um okay,

905
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: do we have a wheel to spin? We sure do.

906
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh my well, we're all going to shower, So sing

907
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: that in the bubble bath later as an homage, Oh,

908
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: who is most likely to go? Ahead? Hillary? Live in

909
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: a zoo is little real life thing you can douse animals.

910
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: Who's a panda? Somebody who would work in a zoo

911
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: and live there as like a somebody who takes care

912
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: of the animals like a gigkeeper? Oh well, who's responsible?

913
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: It's not me? I mean Hill, are you have a farm.

914
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: You kind of do I do live in a petting zoo. Yeah,

915
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: it's you. It's definitely you. God, how bad happened? I

916
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: don't know. Like when we were shooting the show, did

917
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: you ever think in a million years? The day that

918
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: I got a video from you inoculating Lamas, I was like,

919
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: this is my favorite jump for Shark we've done, Like

920
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: this is it? This is better than dance. Some dog

921
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: eating Dan's heart, Like this is real and I love

922
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: it so much. Yeah, we just keep getting animals. I

923
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Speaker 1: don't know. You should see me. You should see when

924
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: I have to jump into the emu baster because it's

925
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:48,400
Speaker 1: a velociraptor, right, and it has these huge claws that

926
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: want to take your bowels out. And when I have

927
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: to go in and get the eggs, like the huge

928
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: green eggs, I have to race her and like, thank god,

929
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: no one there to watch that because it's really embarrassing.

930
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: I feel like you need to set up a camera.

931
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: I want to see that. I'm like Luke Perry in

932
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: that movie eight seconds hang on, man, see My brain

933
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: immediately goes to, how do we build you like a

934
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,320
Speaker 1: cage that you can be in the middle like a

935
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 1: cylinder like a shark cage for an email, but it's

936
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Speaker 1: like a wide cylinder and it has handles and you

937
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,240
Speaker 1: get under it and you walk around in a cage.

938
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: And so if she comes up and wax the cage,

939
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: she can't get to you. But you could walk and

940
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: step right over the eggs and then exactly up and

941
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: put it in your basket. I don't want anyone to

942
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 1: know what a sissy I am, because everyone else was like,

943
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Speaker 1: just go get the egg, Hillary, and I'm like, why

944
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: don't they get it's scary fine. I live in a zoo,

945
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: you know what. I couldn't do it with an emu

946
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: because of the size are I look at our chickens

947
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you are small all rude dinosaurs like

948
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: they're so mean. They look at you like they want

949
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: to kill you, but they can't because they're tiny. I

950
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 1: have to about this, like I loved them so much.

951
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: And then when they killed my favorite chicken, when they

952
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: did like their pecking order thing and they literally ripped

953
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: till the swinton apart, the immediate flip like it's this wall,

954
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: and I look at them and I'm like, you're not

955
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: what I thought you were. You're nothing like dogs. You're

956
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: not even anything like cats. I don't trust you. I

957
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know you. You're evil and you're lucky. I don't

958
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: just open your freaking little pen and feed you to

959
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: like Grant is like, are you okay about the chickens,

960
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm not. That is so

961
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: because you don't trust somebody, it's over. They're dead to me.

962
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: They killed Tilly and they might as well be dead

963
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 1: to me. I take care of them, don't get me wrong.

964
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: I still give them treats every day and I collect

965
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 1: their stupid little eggs. But I'm did I eat I'm off,

966
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm off. You're lucky, you're that side. Ye. Sorry, Well

967
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: now you can feel less guilty about dinner for the

968
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: next I don't even want to eat them. I hate

969
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: him so much. I don't even want to eat them.

970
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: They're murder murderers. Alright, guys, that's our show. Blame mama.

971
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: I will not live in a zoo. We blame mama.

972
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: Do you have a chicken tree? No? But I should. Yeah,

973
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: this is why we can't have nice things. You guys

974
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,439
Speaker 1: are the best. Um, We're gonna we're gonna watch another

975
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: episode of the show. We'll see you next week. Hey,

976
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review.

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