1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Show me the money. 2 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:13,040 Speaker 2: Never was it more relevant than what we just showed you. There, 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: money moves Anthony Rendon. That's him on the phone yelling 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:18,959 Speaker 2: at the Angels, show me the money and let me 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: stay in my home in Texas and not spend any 6 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: time with you in California this year. And they said, okay, 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: can we extend that money to pay it out over 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: a three to five year span a few years from now? 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: And he said yes, goodbye Angels and likely goodbye baseball. 10 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: He's still going to technically be on the roster, but 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: then you get to spring training and you can use 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 2: the spot again with the sixty day I L. We 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 2: had talked about this a month and change ago when 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: it came out that he was probably gonna get bought out, 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 2: but now it's official. 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 3: It's done. 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: So his career is likely over, thirty five years old, 18 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: thirty eight million dollars due for the final year of 19 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: his contract that'll get paid out later and maybe open 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: up some money for the Angels. 21 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is an unbelievable contract. If you want the 22 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 4: true it's crazy. 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 3: The numbers. 24 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, with the Angels worse than his final season with 25 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 2: the Nats. That's one of the tweets that popped up yesterday. 26 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: Can we show this while Todd's sucking? Look at that Todd. 27 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 4: In the final season, Anthony Done had more home runs 28 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: thirty four in RBI one hundred and twenty six in 29 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: his final season with the Nationals than he did in 30 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: seven seasons with the Angels twenty two and one twenty 31 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 4: five by Dan Clark. Yeah, listen, man, you take the 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 4: stats and it's just not good. We know that it's 33 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 4: not good. I'd love Anthony Rendon. I have a good 34 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 4: relationship with him when we played. I think he's an 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 4: awesome guy. It just didn't work out. It didn't work out. 36 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 4: It was one of those things where, you know, injuries 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 4: piled up a little bit, he struggled, h there was 38 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 4: other you know, unforeseen circumstances. I go with, I go 39 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: about the guy who he is, dude. I think he's 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 4: an incredible person. 41 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: I like him a lot. 42 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: It just again, things didn't work out. He struggled and 43 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 4: just wasn't the right fit. And to see how it 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 4: ends like this, I know he's probably not happy. I 45 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 4: know the Angels are probably not happy, and it just 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: I think it's good for them to kind of let 47 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: go a little bit. Even though the money situation, he 48 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: still has to get paid out, and I'm sure he's 49 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 4: happy about that. 50 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: What you should be What do you mean he's not happy? 51 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: I feel like he's super happy because he doesn't have 52 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 2: to go back to the team and play. I mean, 53 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: that's the one thing that I don't think anybody can doubt. 54 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: He does not like baseball. He's very clear about that, 55 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: and he didn't want to play anymore. Injury is a 56 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 2: pain in the ass. I get that right. He's been 57 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: hit with the injury bug. Actually, if you go back 58 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: to his career since college, I think he would have 59 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 2: been a one to one. He ended up being I 60 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 2: don't know, like a one five, like fifth overall something 61 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: like that. He had injuries starting back in Rice when 62 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 2: he was a superstar there, but he was not playing consistently. 63 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: There were concerns And what. 64 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 4: I meant by not happy just when he was there 65 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 4: like that, I don't think, Yeah, I didn't mean not happy. 66 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 3: Now you know what I'm saying. 67 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: Now he's like, I'm done kickback Texas taxes on that 68 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: contract too, right, the deferrals will push it to no 69 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: state income tax versus California, which probably helped to balance 70 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 2: and out how they made a deal here. 71 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, but I mean. 72 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 2: I think this is closure for Angels fans too. This 73 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: is a tough look when you've got to see this guy, 74 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, on your payroll every year. I'm not saying 75 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: fans don't or shouldn't care too much about, you know, 76 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 2: the billionaire's checkbook, but you should care that your team 77 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: spent so much money on a guy that basically did 78 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 2: nothing for you. And I think that it was stinging 79 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 2: for a long time. Krats with fans and even just 80 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: within the organization. Kevin Polar played there and has talked 81 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 2: about it right like, you're there and it's just better 82 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: if Anthony's not there, like as a presence in the organization, 83 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: in the clubhouse, et cetera, because he doesn't want to 84 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: be there. 85 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, And maybe we're blowing it out of proportion a 86 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 5: little bit when you say, oh, you know, it's it's 87 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 5: a burden. 88 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: It's just a. 89 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 5: Burden at times. It's not a burden all the time. 90 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 5: It's not dragging down their their play on the field. 91 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 5: Every day. Nobody's looking over to doug out and being like, 92 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 5: oh great, there's Rendons con but I think it it doesn't. 93 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 5: It manifests itself in wins and losses because of the 94 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 5: fact that we just talked about imai Em sign for 95 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 5: essentially eighteen million dollars. Could you get two players if 96 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 5: you're worried about if Ardi Moreno's worried about the luxury tacks, 97 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 5: could they get two pitchers, which is what the Angels 98 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 5: have needed to offset what Rendon's contract would have been 99 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 5: these last few years. And what would those eighteen million 100 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 5: dollar pitchers look like? You know, you don't know, there's 101 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 5: for every eighteen million dollar Frankie Montas, there's an eighteen 102 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 5: million dollar, you know, resurgence pitcher that was really good 103 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 5: and just is now coming back. I can't name a 104 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 5: player that would have really been that guy. But that's 105 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 5: the part that really that it hits. That it hits 106 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 5: for Angels fans because it's also on top of a 107 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 5: lot of the other contracts that haven't played out because 108 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 5: of injury. I think Rendons is different because his liaise 109 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 5: fair like attitude towards different things makes him look like 110 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 5: he doesn't want to be there. Him saying, hey, you 111 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 5: know what, you know, there's more important things to me 112 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 5: in life than baseball. That makes a fan go, what like, 113 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 5: I'm I'm giving a lot of my money to come 114 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 5: and watch you play. The rest of your guys play, 115 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: and that's what you hear. And it's just it wasn't 116 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 5: a good look and it's not a good look for 117 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 5: the Angels because they signed Puhos, that contract didn't really 118 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 5: work out, the Justin Upton contract, the Mike Trout contract. 119 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 5: Right now, while Mike Trout's still the face of the Angels, 120 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 5: he hasn't played since he signed that contract. The percentage 121 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 5: of games that he's played hasn't been a lot. And 122 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 5: now Rendones. So it's like Angel fans, I think the 123 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 5: the ire of their their misfortune is going to be 124 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 5: towards towards Anthony Rendon. But it's been a cycle of 125 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 5: poor position player contracts that have not kept those players 126 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 5: on the field. 127 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: Josh Hamilton, So it gets me thinking Josh Hamilton, right, 128 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: And there was clearly a lot of background there. Josh 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: Hamilton was a risk. It was a risk signing, higher 130 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: risk than most other signings. Could you make a case 131 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 2: that Anthony Rendon was a risk when someone like me 132 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 2: at that time of his signing is just a broadcaster 133 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 2: slash part time reporter in the playoffs, And I'm around 134 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 2: teams and players enough to know that Anthony Rendon is 135 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: there because he's good, but not because he wants to 136 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: be there every day. I mean Anthony, I covered him. 137 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: I tried interviewing him a few times, and he was 138 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: always super nice. 139 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: He just was like, dude, this isn't my thing. 140 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 2: Like he gave off the auracrats that he didn't want 141 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 2: to be there, and it wasn't like an I'm too 142 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: cool to be here. I think that's why most people 143 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: around him will be like, Oh, he's a nice guy. 144 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: He just was super straightforward that he recognized how talented 145 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 2: he was, and yet it kind of pained him to 146 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 2: go to the ballpark every day. And it pained him 147 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: so much that sometimes he even made it public. So 148 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: I've got two questions for you guys. One, should there 149 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: have been more backgrounds on a player like this? 150 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 3: Right? 151 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: If you are going to spend a quarter of a 152 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 2: billion dollars, shouldn't you make sure that it's a guy 153 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: who gives a shit about showing up every day? 154 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: And Two? 155 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: Does it bother other players when something plays out like 156 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: this because many fans in the chat are like, hey, 157 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 2: this could cause Ardi Moreno or another owner in baseball 158 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: to be like, I'm not giving out a big deal 159 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: like that, and risk of it being a rendoin situation 160 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: that hurts other players, and just the perception of giving 161 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: a crap when most people would, you know, give an 162 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: arm and a leg to play the sport for five years. 163 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 4: I'll answer the first one. I think they all do 164 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 4: their They have to do their background on a guy, 165 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 4: talk to players that on their team, and I'll manage, Hey, 166 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 4: you know, I know you've played with them. Are you 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 4: even in college? You're you know, against him? What do 168 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 4: you think about this guy? I know, if you're a 169 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 4: manager on the other team or a GM and you're 170 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: like trying to trade a guy or get rid of 171 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: a guy, you know you're gonna tell them all the 172 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: good things. You're not gonna You're not gonna tell them 173 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 4: all the bad things. I mean, that would just be silly. 174 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: So they do. They have to do all their homework extensively. 175 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: Health for sure, see how he's healthy, all that stuff. 176 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: I don't see that being a problem because it caused 177 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 4: riffs in the locker room. Maybe a few people. I 178 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: mean for me, it would just be like, hey man, 179 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 4: you know we need you a kind of deal. Can 180 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: you pick it up a little bit, that kind of talk. 181 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 4: You want your guys to make money, you want everybody 182 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 4: to make their money. But you know, just give me, 183 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: give me whatever you got that day, each day without 184 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 4: being a problem. And I'm fine with it. 185 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 5: I mean, I think they I think they try their best. 186 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: I mean you heard when Ron Washington came in. I 187 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 5: thought he said one of his first calls was to 188 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 5: Anthony like, I'm not saying the Angels did everything right 189 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 5: in this situation, saying there's a different way to manage 190 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 5: there's a different way to coach different players. I can't 191 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 5: coach Todd the same way I would coach Anthony Rendo. 192 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 5: I can't coach think about the Nationals James Wood the 193 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 5: same way I can coach c J Abrams. And so 194 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: how do you how do you look past, you know, 195 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 5: how somebody's view of baseball is and figure out how 196 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 5: to get the most out of that person. Maybe it 197 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 5: was a lost cause, but I think the Angels did 198 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 5: their best. I remember talking talking to Ron Washington on 199 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 5: here and he was like, we're not guaranteeing him a spot. 200 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 5: He's not guaranteed any spot, Like, that's not that's not 201 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 5: how we're doing this. And maybe nobody ever, maybe nobody 202 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 5: ever said that to him. Maybe he was fine, Hey, 203 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 5: you know what, you don't want to guarantee my spot, 204 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 5: then it's fine. I'll just I'll give you what I 205 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 5: got when I got it. Everybody tries their different ways 206 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 5: of doing it. And as a player, quctually you asked 207 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 5: about other players. Are they Are they pissed that he 208 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 5: got his money? No, because you're I shouldn't say that. 209 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 5: Maybe there's some guys who are jealous. Maybe Todd's like, well, 210 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 5: I played third base. I would have loved two hundred 211 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 5: and forty six million dollars and to that. If I 212 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 5: would hear a player say that, I'd be like, sorry, Dodd, 213 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 5: I don't care how much you wanted it. You weren't 214 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 5: as good as him because he put up the number 215 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 5: that put him in the in the situation like if 216 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 5: you're always looking at other people's contracts and you're like, 217 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 5: my numbers were exactly the same, I should have gotten 218 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 5: more than him, or I should have gotten the same 219 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 5: as it. Okay, that's different but Anthony Rendon hit the 220 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 5: jackpot when he had his career year on his platform year, 221 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: won a World Series and had an owner who missed 222 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 5: out on a big time free agent pitcher and said, Pivot, 223 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 5: I got all this money, we're giving it to you. 224 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 225 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: It was a perfect storm, and he would have gotten 226 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: paid regardless. Would it have been at that level maybe not, 227 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 2: but I mean he would have gotten Still, what do 228 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: you mean, I mean he still would have gotten a 229 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: ton of money. So either way, but your point is, 230 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 2: I mean he got He got the top end of 231 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: what people thought he was going to get based on 232 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 2: this perfect storm. Lining up and he's talking about Artie 233 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 2: Mourno going after Garrett Cole. They come up short, they 234 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 2: go to Rendon. It's like, who else you got? Okay, 235 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 2: let's work on Rendon. Remember there were serious reports that 236 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: the Dodgers were very interested in Anthony Rendon. How different 237 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: things could have looked for LA if they threw a 238 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: couple hundred million bucks at Anthony Rendon? 239 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what would have happened with him? 240 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Right? 241 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 3: What would have happened with Anthony? 242 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: Is it all injuries or could someone have motivated him 243 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: to want to be there? 244 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: More frequently. 245 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 2: You know, those are two different teams too, right, Dodgers 246 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: are in it every year. Unfortunately, the Angels have been 247 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: one of the worst teams in baseball for a minute now. 248 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: They're never in it. 249 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, you put guys around him, You put guys around 250 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: and maybe maybe a guy Mooie Betts is that guy. 251 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: Maybe a guy. 252 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 5: Like like Freddie Freeman is that guy. You hear Max 253 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 5: Munsey talk all the time on this show, like we 254 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 5: keep each other accountable. We make sure everybody has a 255 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 5: base level standard that we're at. And maybe that's why 256 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 5: the Dodgers didn't give him that money. Maybe they did 257 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 5: a little extra effort. Within two years of me quitting playing, 258 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 5: I was still getting calls about guys I played with 259 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 5: that were becoming free agents from organizations that I never had. 260 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 5: You know, I never saw any connections with that said 261 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 5: free agent, but they were like, hey, what did you 262 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 5: think about this guy? 263 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: Hey, how is this guy when this happened? How you know? 264 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 5: So that that work is done behind the scenes, and 265 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 5: I think, you know, maybe they missed it here with 266 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 5: the Angels. 267 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: Maybe the Angels heard the Dodgers. 268 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 5: We're looking at him and we're like, no, no, no, no, 269 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: we're not letting player who was the number three best 270 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 5: player in the twenty nineteen season go to our crosstown team, 271 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: not crosstown rival, go to the Dodgers. 272 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: We're going to pay that money. 273 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 5: And kudos to Arty Moreno for saying, you know what, 274 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 5: I think he's the best player. I'm willing to pay. 275 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 5: We don't agree with the people that he's signed, but 276 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 5: Arty Moreno's he's always making big splashes and he's always 277 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: bringing in these good position players, and you know it 278 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 5: just it hasn't worked out for whatever reason. And I 279 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 5: think it's probably lying more in what Scott said that 280 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 5: clubhouse somebody to motivate each person. What does it take 281 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 5: when you bring Albert Poolhos in to motivate him? Is 282 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 5: he the guy that is going to fit right into 283 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 5: your clubhouse? That's where you take that next step after 284 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: you spend money on players. 285 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: I think it'll just help to get all of the 286 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,680 Speaker 2: questions and everything out of there. Now nobody has to 287 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: deal with any more questions. 288 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 3: Like it's done. He's not there anymore. It's over. 289 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: There's nothing else to say about it anymore. Right, nobody 290 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: has to answer for him. It is it's good closure 291 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: for them. And there's one or two reports that I 292 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: saw over the last few days saying that the Angels 293 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 2: might look into Nolan Ronado. That would be a big difference. 294 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Nolan wants to play. Yeah, you know, Nolan's 295 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 2: showing up every day to play. He is not the 296 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 2: same guy anymore. He's towards the tail end of his career. 297 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: That's no secret. 298 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: He said. 299 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 2: I think sub average offensive seasons two years in a 300 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: row now, but he can still pick it at third 301 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: and maybe he does find it a little bit with 302 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: an everyday spot on the Angels and less pressure. 303 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: Hunting money too, Like where does there's a lot that goes. 304 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to eat a lot of the money 305 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: the Cardinals. So we'll see. We'll keep an eye on 306 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: that one. That might come later in the offseason. I 307 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: do think he would waive the no trade to go 308 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: over there. Ken Korak is longtime radio voice of the 309 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: A's and joining us right now on foul Territory. 310 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: Ken, great to have you on. 311 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Happy New Year, and we looked We're like, we got 312 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: to get Ken on because the A's are one of 313 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 2: the loudest teams over the past week with the big 314 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: Tyler Soderstrom extension. So how you doing and what did 315 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: you think of that news. 316 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 6: I'm doing well, Scott. It's great to be with you guys. Yeah, 317 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 6: it was good news. I was at the press conference 318 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 6: in Vegas, and I think it's a real positive sign. 319 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 6: I think to show that the A's really are pretty 320 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 6: serious about making this thing happen. And he's the third 321 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 6: player as you know that they've signed to a long 322 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 6: term deal over the last year or so, so I 323 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 6: think it sends a really positive message. 324 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 5: Do you know if this process was a long process, 325 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: because I wouldn't say of anybody it's Nick Kurtz who's 326 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 5: the guy, or Shae Langaliers who have established themselves as 327 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 5: guys like, oh, you got to get them now or 328 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: else you're not going to get him. And now Shae 329 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 5: Langaliers is farther into the process. But Soderstrom, was this 330 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 5: a long process to get to the number that they 331 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: got to. 332 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 7: I don't know, honestly. The answer to that. 333 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 6: My sense is that the discussions may have started at 334 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 6: the end of the season, but I'm really not sure. 335 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 6: But you mentioned those two other guys or three other 336 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 6: guys obviously they would love to get Langeleir signed. I'm 337 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 6: sure they would love to get Kurtz and Jacob Wilson. 338 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 6: So you're talking about guys who they really believe will 339 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 6: be the foundation for the ball club going forward. 340 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 5: Now, I heard from the source that Matt Chapman was 341 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 5: offered a very similar type of contract early on. Do 342 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 5: you feel like the A's are changing, this changing the 343 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 5: culture for young guys to say, yes, I want to 344 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 5: accept it, because if they had kept their Matt Olsen, 345 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 5: if they were able to keep their Matt Chapmans, this team, 346 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 5: you know, look at what those guys have done, would 347 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 5: be running, would be would be continuing to move in 348 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: the right direction. 349 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 6: It's a fair point, it's an excellent point, and I think, yes, 350 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 6: things have changed, and it's it's very simple. And if 351 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 6: you drive down to the corner of Tropicana and Las 352 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 6: Vegas Boulevard on the Las Vegas Strip, you can see 353 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 6: the reason why, and that is the building of the 354 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 6: new stadium there, and that's why they feel that the 355 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 6: time is right to extend these long term deals and 356 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 6: that they'll be you know, added revenue coming in. 357 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 7: So the focus is certainly different now. 358 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 6: Than it was during that time you were talking about 359 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 6: when they had guys like Chapman and and Matt Olsen, 360 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 6: et cetera. 361 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 4: I want I want to go talk about Jeff McNeil 362 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 4: a little bit, play with him for a while. Now 363 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 4: he's over there with the A's talk about well, you 364 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 4: think he's going to bring to the table and and 365 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 4: you know where where do you see this guy playing? 366 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 6: You would know more than me, right, I mean you 367 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 6: played on the infield with him, So I think he's 368 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 6: you know, it's a big addition for them because they 369 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 6: needed you know, things didn't work out with Zach Yeloff 370 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 6: last year and that was a you know, it's a 371 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 6: hugely disappointing year. I think in some ways because of injury. 372 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 6: You know, he just wasn't healthy last year. But they 373 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 6: felt he was going to be their second basement for 374 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 6: years to come. He may still be because he has 375 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 6: tremendous talent. But they struggled offensively at second base and 376 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 6: also at third base, and so to get McNeil to 377 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 6: play a second base ostensibly to provide that keystone combination 378 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 6: along with Jacob Wilson. I think it's a real solid 379 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 6: addition and the other thing is at a time when 380 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 6: we hear so much about slugging and guys that strike 381 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 6: out a lot and things like that. Up the middle, 382 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 6: they have guys who make a ton of contacts. So 383 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 6: I imagine that they'll hit at the top of the 384 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 6: order and maybe try to set the table for guys 385 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 6: like Kurtz and Rooker and the rest of those guys. 386 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 5: Can you talk about this lineup because a lot of 387 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 5: people don't know much about the A's lineup, and we 388 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 5: went over it after they got them, after they signed McNeil. 389 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 5: This time, this lineup, it's kind of scary. Where do 390 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 5: you rank this lineup top to bottom one even with 391 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 5: the whole third still that in just the American League West. 392 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 6: It's a little bit of an old fashioned American League lineup, 393 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 6: you know. And I've kind of drawn the comparison. 394 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 3: Now. 395 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna compare this group with that Cleveland group 396 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 6: when they had Manny Ramirez and saw Me and by 397 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 6: Erga and Alamar and all that, but to kind of 398 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 6: use the John Hart and I'm digressing, but to use 399 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 6: the John Hart model to try to extend their young 400 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 6: players to move into a new ballpark like the like 401 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 6: the Cleveland Ball Club did before Jacob's Field open. But 402 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 6: I do think it's one of the best offenses in 403 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 6: baseball on paper. Now we'll see they still have a 404 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 6: lot of young players and there's gonna be adjustments, and 405 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 6: you know that Nick Kurtz is gonna have to face 406 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 6: the You know, last year was interesting because Kurtz had 407 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 6: such an incredible year that you knew once the sixth 408 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 6: inning started that the other team's best left hander was 409 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,479 Speaker 6: going to get up in the bullpen, and that the 410 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 6: manager he knew exactly when Kurtz was coming up and 411 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 6: that that guy was going to come in to face him. 412 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 6: So they're going to deal with things like that. But 413 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 6: I really do think they have a chance to have 414 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 6: one of the best offenses in the game. 415 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 4: Awesome and I love to hear that, and I think 416 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 4: you're definitely right now. My next question to you would be, 417 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: what else is there anything else this Oakland A's team 418 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 4: has to do to get them over to hump to 419 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 4: where they need to be. 420 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: Is there a guy that they're looking for? Have you 421 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 3: heard anything? 422 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 6: I know they're looking and talking to free agents. It's 423 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 6: no question, and to me, I think that would revolve 424 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 6: around pitching. I think they could use an experienced, veteran 425 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 6: solid pitcher. Doesn't have to be a number one or 426 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 6: two necessarily, but I'd be surprised if they didn't go 427 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 6: out and get at least one starting pitcher in free agency. 428 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 6: And my expectation is that they would also try to 429 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 6: fortify the bullpen as well. 430 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: Let's look at that starting pitching. 431 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 5: Is there any way that this team can start opening 432 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 5: day where they're at or are we talking about needing 433 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 5: to add two starting pitchers to a staff that in 434 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 5: my opinion, Luis sever Reno, I love the guy was 435 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 5: great on the road, struggled at home. If they have 436 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 5: to add two guys, how are they going to take 437 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 5: that to free agency and say we want you to 438 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 5: come here? And then they say, well, what happened to 439 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 5: Luis Severino at home? And do I have to pitch 440 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 5: at home? Or can I only pitch. 441 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: On the road? 442 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 7: Well, I think that listen what happened? 443 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 6: If what he said had to be said for them 444 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 6: to get over that hump, because there was this malaise 445 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 6: that hung over the team there for a while. You know, 446 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 6: they were twenty two and twenty after they beat the 447 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 6: Dodgers in May in the first game of a series 448 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 6: at Dodger Stadium. They lost twenty of their next twenty ones, 449 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 6: So that was really rough. But credit to them and 450 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 6: DeMar Cossi that they bounced back from that and actually 451 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 6: had a really good season in the second half. And 452 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 6: I think Luise got over the hump from that standpoint 453 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 6: as well. If you look at his numbers in the 454 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 6: second half, I think he was a lot better. And 455 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 6: I think the ball club as a whole made the 456 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,680 Speaker 6: adjustment to playing in Sacramento, so I'm not too concerned 457 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 6: about that. I think their young pitching might be a 458 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 6: little underrated. You look at Severino and Jeffrey Springs at 459 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 6: the top of the rotation. They called up this kid, 460 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 6: Luis Morales, who is just electric. He made nine stories, 461 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 6: he had a three to one four ERA. He's penciled 462 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 6: in in the rotation. They have several other guys they 463 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 6: hope that their talent will come to fruition, including two 464 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 6: lefties who I think might make their major league de 465 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 6: abuse this year, including one who hasn't even pitched an inning, 466 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 6: and the Miners yet their first round pick last year, 467 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 6: Jamie Arnold out of Fred out of Florida State and 468 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 6: then Cage Jump, who really jumped through their farm system 469 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 6: last year. Lefty from LSU. But I'll go back to 470 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 6: what I said earlier. I think that they need to 471 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 6: add at least one veteran. I think they need to 472 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 6: add at least one veteran to that rotation. 473 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: With a Soderstrom signing, with the fact that the stadium 474 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: is now underway construction in Vegas, and also with the 475 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: fact that they got rid of or traded Mason Miller 476 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: last year, somebody that had years of control left. Are 477 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: we starting to see the shape of this team and 478 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: what it's going to look like when they move into Vegas? 479 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: And what's the last piece this offseason that they need 480 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, this is definitely what this team is 481 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: going to look like for the next five years. Is 482 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: there something that they can do this offseason to push 483 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: them into the new stadium. 484 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 6: I think it's great question because if you look at 485 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 6: twenty twenty eight, it's not that far off now, and 486 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 6: you could assume that Langlers will still be their catcher then, 487 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 6: and that Kurtz will be at first and Wilson will 488 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 6: be at short, and that Soda Storm and Denzil Clark 489 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 6: and we haven't talked about and Lawrence Butler will be 490 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 6: in the outfield and that Rooker. 491 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 7: Will be their DH. Now, you never know. You guys 492 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 7: know better than me. 493 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 6: I mean, the's two you've played for years in the 494 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 6: big leagues that things can change overnight. But I mean 495 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 6: that's what they're hoping. They're hoping that that'll be the 496 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 6: core group. You know, you mentioned that the Mason Miller deal. 497 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 6: Leo devrees. If he's as good as everybody says he is, 498 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 6: then that's the guy you might be talking about. Now, 499 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 6: that's not a move this offseason, but he's still a kid. 500 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 6: But he's the consensus, like top three prospect in the game. 501 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 6: So if he turns out to be as good as 502 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 6: the as the analysts say that he should be, then 503 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 6: that might the piece you're talking about. 504 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 5: For sure, he's a he's an organization, organization, franchise changing 505 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 5: type of prospect, but he is still just a prospect yet, 506 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 5: right question, you watch. 507 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 7: The prospect is the prospect until they show something. 508 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 5: Right correct, and then they're called suspects. So exactly a 509 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 5: lot is on that young man's shoulders. But you watched this, 510 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,719 Speaker 5: you watch this team play in Sacramento. I don't care 511 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 5: what anybody says. Everybody plays in Sacramento against another team 512 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 5: in Sacramento. Nobody's playing, you know, half their game in 513 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: Sacramento and half their game in the games in Sacramento. 514 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: Did you feel like because of the home. 515 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 5: Run, not just home runs, but just the amount of 516 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 5: runs that were scored, did you feel like it was 517 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 5: something that drained on the position players, because if it was, 518 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 5: because I saw that with guys in Colorado sometimes it 519 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 5: was like we scored seven runs and now we're in 520 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 5: the third inning and we're losing eight to seven. Did 521 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 5: you feel like it rained some on the position players, 522 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 5: because obviously the starting pitching is something we've hit on already, 523 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 5: needing to address that, But could you see that in 524 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 5: the position players, like, all right, here we go. We 525 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 5: got to score nine to win tonight, No eleven to 526 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 5: win tonight. 527 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 6: You know, Eric, I think we might have seen that 528 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 6: early in the year when they had that long stretch 529 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,360 Speaker 6: when they lost twenty of twenty one, because during that 530 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 6: stretch they gave up the lead late several times, and 531 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 6: there's nothing more deflating than having the lead and then 532 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 6: losing it. And losing an eight to seven game or 533 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 6: a nine to eight game. I didn't feel that was 534 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 6: a factor in the second half. If you go back 535 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 6: to the way they played, they played really well in 536 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 6: the second half and you can still pitch there. I 537 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 6: would not compare it to cors Field some people have. 538 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 6: The weather was actually better than we thought it was 539 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 6: going to be. It wasn't quite as stifling in terms 540 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 6: of the heat. Actually was a comfortable summer out there. 541 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, I think you have to accept 542 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 6: and it's not going to be the Colisseum and that 543 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 6: was one of the I mean, you guys hit at 544 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 6: the Colisseum and hitters hated it, so it's not going 545 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 6: to be. It's never going to be like that. But 546 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 6: I don't I mean, there's still a young group, so 547 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 6: I don't think that was a factor. 548 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 2: Well, Ken, we appreciate the time, great to have you on. 549 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: Thanks for filling us in on what's going on there. 550 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 2: And I would say hopefully they're able to throw more 551 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 2: of these extensions to the young core to continue to 552 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 2: keep it intact for several years. It seems to be 553 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 2: the best play for them right now, and some guys 554 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: are taking that on right. 555 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 7: I would agree for sure, Scott, I would agree. Yeah. 556 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 7: Now they've got to take care of the broadcasters too, right. 557 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: But you know, yeah, where's the where's the five year extension? 558 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 3: Team friendly? But five year extension? 559 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just signed. 560 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 6: A new deal for the next two so I'm looking. 561 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 6: I'm kind of going, you know, year to year anyway. 562 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 6: So but thank you guys. I appreciate it. 563 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: And Ken, you know that in broadcast terms to your 564 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 2: extension that actually is pretty that's probably five in baseball 565 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: player terms, so we'll take it, right, Just congratulations. 566 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 7: Just like dog years, right, yeah, exactly. 567 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: Well, happy to congrats on the available look forward to 568 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 2: listening to you during the season. 569 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 7: Sounds great. Thanks for having me.