WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Uncaging the Lions

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 2>Ready for a break?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and so much for that.

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<v Speaker 2>We were on with Mbar Garcia.

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<v Speaker 7>It is Wednesday, October ninth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty,

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<v Speaker 7>episode number forty five. Welcome to the latest edition Oh

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<v Speaker 2>How's everybody doing it?

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<v Speaker 3>Doing well?

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<v Speaker 8>Doing well? Back in the building.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry guys, to have you back.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, last couple days have been a little bit of

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<v Speaker 8>a hustle and bustle, but back in the building.

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<v Speaker 2>But we held it down.

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<v Speaker 7>Brian had some good questions for us yesterday, so we

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<v Speaker 7>had a good discussion yesterday. Maybe some of those topics

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<v Speaker 7>come up today. We'll get your opinions on them. Let's

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<v Speaker 7>start first, though, with some injury updates. Obviously, the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 7>roster is a mass unit and uh and they're just

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<v Speaker 7>kind of managing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start first with Marshaw Neelan.

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<v Speaker 7>Obviously, after being injured in the game, the expectation is

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<v Speaker 7>he's gonna miss some weeks. They did actually sign and

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<v Speaker 7>got to the practice squad last week. kJ Henry Brian,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't think signed to active ross, active active roster.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, I don't think we got a scouter report on

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<v Speaker 7>him last week.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see what I could do for you to give

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<v Speaker 4>me a little scouter report. Let me let me see

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<v Speaker 4>if I could do that for you. All right, sent

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<v Speaker 4>day g ag, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to do it?

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<v Speaker 4>Got that scouting report to pull it up? I got

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<v Speaker 4>it right here, watch me, watch me do this.

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<v Speaker 8>Just trying to buy time with me, trying to buy

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<v Speaker 8>some time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I had it

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<v Speaker 4>because I got all these scouting reports in my head.

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<v Speaker 7>The consummate radio guy knows you can't have dead air,

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<v Speaker 7>so he's like, can.

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<v Speaker 4>You okay, kJ Henry, this he's he was on the

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<v Speaker 4>Cincinni practice squad and I watched him on the Commanders.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a fifth round pick by the Commanders in

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<v Speaker 4>the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, and he's.

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<v Speaker 3>Got really good link.

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<v Speaker 4>I like the way that he could play off blocks

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<v Speaker 4>because of the link. I think that helped him. I

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<v Speaker 4>saw some redirect skills in him. I didn't see a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that was just up the field and then you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and then got stuck. Like he was able to kind

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<v Speaker 4>of come back and make some play. They played him

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<v Speaker 4>as a stand up guy at times, so stand up,

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<v Speaker 4>hand down both with the with that the read option

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<v Speaker 4>stuff I thought was pretty good. They got a game

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<v Speaker 4>against Carolina preseason game where they had to were kind

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<v Speaker 4>of doing some of that read option stuff, and he

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<v Speaker 4>looked like he was playing with some pretty good discipline

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<v Speaker 4>and not to get fooled on that. The good patience

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<v Speaker 4>balance good with his inside moves. I thought he closed

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<v Speaker 4>down quickly on the plays that went away from him

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<v Speaker 4>and squeezed the hole pretty well. Movement from the.

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<v Speaker 3>Backside is really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Good can gain some ground with that first step and

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<v Speaker 4>finds his way to the corner, can capture. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think he needed to be more consistent doing that. I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of felt like that he got there, but he

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<v Speaker 4>couldn't exactly get around it with any kind of real

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<v Speaker 4>consistency there. So I'm really pressed with the way he

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<v Speaker 4>was able to kind of control blockers and how he

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<v Speaker 4>extends on blockers, and so I felt like that there's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be some depth with the current group that you

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<v Speaker 4>got surprised he wasn't active the other day, and I

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<v Speaker 4>guess he just wasn't ready to play. Maybe he didn't

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<v Speaker 4>know what was going on. But I saw him as

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<v Speaker 4>a positive player. You know, when you start to poach guys.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a guy my Gang of seven if you're

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<v Speaker 4>new to the show, My Gang of seven, or my

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<v Speaker 4>guys and gals around the league, the general managers and

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<v Speaker 4>player personnel, guys that do the film every weekend. I

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<v Speaker 4>asked him for three names of guys to go poach,

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<v Speaker 4>and he was the top name on four.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the seven. Okay that they said that.

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<v Speaker 4>My guy said, hey, if you're gonna go poach an

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<v Speaker 4>Edge kJ Henry from Cincinnati was for the seven had

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<v Speaker 4>him as the top guy.

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<v Speaker 8>So here we go. In your opinion, why was he

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<v Speaker 8>relegated to a practice squad in Cincinnati this year?

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<v Speaker 4>You know it's I don't know, it's Cincinnati and Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 4>struggling with her defense too. You know, maybe the maybe

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that bought that that teams are that we're

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<v Speaker 4>looking at of him, it's the probably the pass.

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<v Speaker 3>Rush stuff's because he's just.

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<v Speaker 4>Not I didn't see a guy that was that. We

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<v Speaker 4>always talk about the Bendi being able to kind of

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<v Speaker 4>get to the and then find his way to the quarterback.

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<v Speaker 4>That was a little bit of a struggle for him,

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<v Speaker 4>Like he he kind of gets there, but it just

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't have that ability to capture that then go. And

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<v Speaker 4>I kind of felt like maybe that's where people are

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<v Speaker 4>kind of knocking him a little bit on his Did.

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<v Speaker 3>You remember him? Do you remember him coming out of college?

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<v Speaker 1>Not?

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<v Speaker 8>Actually really? Yeah, this is a new name whenever he

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<v Speaker 8>popped up last week.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, well he was, uh, Like I say, I was.

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<v Speaker 4>I was impressed with the ability, some of the athletic

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<v Speaker 4>ability that he showed, But the pass rush stuff, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that it's gonna take a little time there maybe.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, honestly, if you tell me he's a

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<v Speaker 7>better run defender than he is a pass rusher, I'm

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<v Speaker 7>comfortable with that in the short term. Knowing that you

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<v Speaker 7>got to have to make just kind of make things

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<v Speaker 7>go right now. And the worst thing you can do

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<v Speaker 7>is get somebody who can't stop the run, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 7>they already got problems there. So I look at it

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<v Speaker 7>and that, to me, that would be a win.

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<v Speaker 3>He at least shows how to play the run. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>And the opportunities he got, you know, so that the

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<v Speaker 4>discipline I think when you when you the one thing

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<v Speaker 4>to Dallas has kind of struggled with a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>And boy, it'll be a different type of running game

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<v Speaker 4>this week that we're going to talk about here in

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<v Speaker 4>a few minutes. But but but still, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>as far as the depth piece and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 4>the right size, the length. You know, I'm hey, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what if for my seven guys and gals say, no, man,

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<v Speaker 4>take a look at this guy. I mean, he's a

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<v Speaker 4>guy that we would go get and I would I

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<v Speaker 4>trust that Dallas did the right thing here, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>instead of just signing somebody off the street that they're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have. This guy's been practicing, he's been playing, he's

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<v Speaker 4>been in a training camp. You know, all those things

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<v Speaker 4>are kind of positives going forward.

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<v Speaker 7>One other name Cowboys look like they're expected to sign

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<v Speaker 7>a new defensive end to their practice squad.

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<v Speaker 2>Luigi Villain. Is that how you pronounce it? Is Luigi

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<v Speaker 2>or Luigi Luigi?

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<v Speaker 8>I hope it's Luigi Villain, but I think it's Vilaine.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually Villain is so much better.

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<v Speaker 7>Right, I was like, this is a perfect wrestling name, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>Oligi Villain, like the perfect Nino sixty four.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I don't know anything about Luigi. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know anything about Luigi because I was working on the Lions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll figure that figure out.

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<v Speaker 7>But he's on the they're signing to practic QA likely

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<v Speaker 7>is he will probably wouldn't be up this week anyway,

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<v Speaker 7>catch right, Probably the guy that's gonna.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't study the practice squad d But when about that,

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's the active call we'll study.

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<v Speaker 7>But the point is they're doing more, They're getting more bodies,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think that's really the key to this is

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<v Speaker 7>that they're going to need bodies to be able to

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<v Speaker 7>sustain them.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the point you made yesterday because I tried

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<v Speaker 4>to convince you to go trade for a defensive end

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<v Speaker 4>and you weren't biten. His reason for not trading, I

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<v Speaker 4>asked him, and I'll ask you this question, though, do

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<v Speaker 4>you think this do you think this front off is

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<v Speaker 4>now it's imperative that they go and trade for a

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<v Speaker 4>legitimate defensive end.

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<v Speaker 8>The thing is, if you go and you trade for

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<v Speaker 8>a legitimate defensive end, I almost said a name that

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<v Speaker 8>would have been back. I got to get back in

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<v Speaker 8>the framework if they went and traded for a legitimate

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<v Speaker 8>defensive end that is potentially on the market. You're getting

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<v Speaker 8>him for three four games in an increased role, right,

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<v Speaker 8>and he's expected to come in and play those three

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<v Speaker 8>four games as your guy. He's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 8>But then once Michael Parsons comes back to Marcus Lawrence

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<v Speaker 8>comes back, Marshaw k Neelan comes back, Sam Williams comes

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<v Speaker 8>back next year, what do you do with this guy?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, see, this is the thing about it is you're

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<v Speaker 4>thinking about six games for kneel in six games for Tank,

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<v Speaker 4>so you.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, definitely, yeah, you need some help. Yeah, but is

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<v Speaker 8>there enough confidence from you for what Chauncey Golson and

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<v Speaker 8>Tires Wheat and Carl Lawson did on Sunday against Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it helped my soul that they played well.

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<v Speaker 4>But see But when we talked about when we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about the playing against the Steelers, remember it was kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like, well, they've got some issues that they've got

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<v Speaker 4>some issues that tackle, and you're about to play a

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<v Speaker 4>team this might be the best offensive line you play

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<v Speaker 4>against all year.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll find out this might be the best one.

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<v Speaker 2>Better than better than when they're fully healthy.

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<v Speaker 8>I think so, Yeah, I think so too.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it depending on what happens with Frank ragnow the center,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what.

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<v Speaker 3>His situation is.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, there, this is this is going to be

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<v Speaker 4>a legitimate that this is going to be hang on

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<v Speaker 4>to your you know what, because it's this is going

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<v Speaker 4>to be tough. They're gonna have to.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 4>With Wheat and Golston and those guys, it's how they

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<v Speaker 4>play against. I felt like that they matched up well

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<v Speaker 4>enough against the Steelers, But who matches up well against

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<v Speaker 4>these guys. I mean, obviously the Buccaneers went to Detroit

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<v Speaker 4>and beat them, but everybody else, I mean, Seattle in

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<v Speaker 4>these games. I'm watching the Arizona game and just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's pretty tough up front.

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<v Speaker 5>So you guys talk about the players that are expected

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<v Speaker 5>to come back to injured guys, and I love how

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<v Speaker 5>everyone is just we're expecting them to return. It'd be great,

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<v Speaker 5>be good, like and this I'm not trying to be negative.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe it's just the anxious person. No, it's the anxious

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<v Speaker 5>person in me that I'm always dealing with anxiety and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm always thinking worst case scenario and I dealing with

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<v Speaker 5>all that. But it's like, we know that when players

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<v Speaker 5>return hurt it takes them a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that that. I don't know that I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with that.

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<v Speaker 7>When you're talking about a player returning in season and

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<v Speaker 7>a veteran player like say Micah or Tank. Yes, for

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<v Speaker 7>Sam Williams, that would be concerned after he miss is

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<v Speaker 7>an entire year and then comes back after that year

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<v Speaker 7>and returns coming off an injury, this should be concerned about,

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<v Speaker 7>like how long is it going to take him to

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<v Speaker 7>ramp up to getting.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to what he was?

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<v Speaker 7>But I don't know if that's necessarily the case when

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<v Speaker 7>you're talking about veteran guys that miss a few weeks,

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<v Speaker 7>like they've gone through training camp, they played a few games,

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<v Speaker 7>they get hurt, they're out for a few weeks, and

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<v Speaker 7>then they come back.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 7>I necessarily think it's going to take ramp up time

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<v Speaker 7>for them to get back to playing as they were

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<v Speaker 7>playing before.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, I do think so with certain players. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>not everyone's turn Smith that can get hurt and then

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<v Speaker 5>when he comes back, he's playing at a high level.

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<v Speaker 5>And I hope I'm wrong you're saying that. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>just something to keep in mind that even when they

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<v Speaker 5>were healthy, they weren't playing at such an amazing level yet.

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<v Speaker 8>So that's another I think.

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<v Speaker 5>About just the defense in general, overall unit everyone put together.

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<v Speaker 5>That's another thing that it was also a problem. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>You just thinking about Pollard and Steel and there has

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<v Speaker 4>been a history up until late.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean if you think about the guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Out for longer periods of time though, is what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>saying though.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Oh no, I mean for the year, That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. That's what. Yeah, I see where.

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<v Speaker 5>You're expected to return a law sooner because you're in season,

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<v Speaker 5>so you're you're doing what you can. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, I'm again, it's anxiety just like type of situation.

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<v Speaker 4>What the problem is now is when we looked at

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<v Speaker 4>the schedule in May, when it came out and you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>you play the win loss game and you're thinking, oh, Atlanta, Commanders.

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<v Speaker 4>I saw a stat the other day, Dallas is only

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<v Speaker 4>a forty eight chance at best to win if win

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<v Speaker 4>any of those games. I mean there's some they're like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Commanders, what you would say, Commanders, how.

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<v Speaker 2>Much are they going to win by?

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<v Speaker 3>That was the question, Atlanta, let's go, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>But now it's like this row of games coming up

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<v Speaker 4>and you're going, damn, but they're gonna win any of them.

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<v Speaker 4>But these players, that's what I'm saying, Yeah, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>miss all these like you this week when we start

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<v Speaker 4>to talk about the Lions and where you can attack,

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<v Speaker 4>what are their tackles? Is who you need to go

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<v Speaker 4>after and we'll get into that, But this is a

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<v Speaker 4>game you would love to have had Micah just for

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<v Speaker 4>the reason of they could He could break this guy

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<v Speaker 4>down and I don't know if the others can't.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's that's the problem I'm running into right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just don't feel like I feel like I'm kind

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<v Speaker 4>of showing up at a fight and I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>all the weapons.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, no doubt, but fight the battle to your point

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<v Speaker 7>about the schedule and looking at the schedule, I think

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<v Speaker 7>there's there's already been those moments too where you didn't

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<v Speaker 7>think New Orleans when we saw the record, we were

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<v Speaker 7>like they saw the schedule, we were like, Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of where they are right now. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>And then but then the flip side of that is

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<v Speaker 7>Pittsburgh was probably better than what I thought they were

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<v Speaker 7>when the schedule came out, and Cowboys going to win

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<v Speaker 7>that one.

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<v Speaker 2>So the NFL is just a strange lady. You just

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<v Speaker 2>never know what's going to happen, and you don't know

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<v Speaker 2>it's too early.

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<v Speaker 7>In the year to know who's really good and who's

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<v Speaker 7>really not, and and like where you're seeing things that

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<v Speaker 7>really will matter as the as the season plays out.

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<v Speaker 4>I just I'm looking at the Commanders every week, and

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<v Speaker 4>they had defense is thirty first in most categories, their

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<v Speaker 4>offenses first or second, and everything else. It's very much

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<v Speaker 4>a it's a it's a weird team. Is if you

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<v Speaker 4>could deal with their offense, you got a chance. If

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<v Speaker 4>you don't, they're probably gonna beat you. Yeah, it's just

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<v Speaker 4>a weird, weird season.

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<v Speaker 7>The Yeah, I watched that that whole game last week

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<v Speaker 7>because we were at the hotel waiting for our game.

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<v Speaker 7>And yeah, they look really good, especially offensive.

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<v Speaker 4>Cleveland kind of can be a little bit of a trainer,

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<v Speaker 4>but Cleftand's defense, You feel like Cleveland's defense is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that offense and that that Washington offense looks really

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<v Speaker 7>good right now. And they got a number of guys

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<v Speaker 7>all yeah, it's crazy the number of guys that can

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<v Speaker 7>actually get you on any given play.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Cliff Kingsbury, the OC there has learned how to

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<v Speaker 4>run the ball. You finally figured out how to run

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<v Speaker 4>the ball to go with all the craziness that he

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<v Speaker 4>throws at you.

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<v Speaker 8>You have three running backs, so you can hand it

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<v Speaker 8>off to.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes no doubt easier. Three good running bock knock.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we're gonna take our first break when we

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<v Speaker 2>come back.

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<v Speaker 7>let's talk about this Detroit offense. I want to start

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<v Speaker 7>at the part of this offense that I think can

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<v Speaker 7>be most problematic. Like Pittsburgh, they run a lot. They

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<v Speaker 7>are fourth in the league and rush attempts. Unlike Pittsburgh,

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<v Speaker 7>they're very good at it. Now they're sixth in the

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<v Speaker 7>league at rushing yards. Give me a scatony report on

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<v Speaker 7>David Montgomery and jamieer Gibbs.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, two of the better backs that you're going to face,

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<v Speaker 4>and they they're really interchangeable. The great thing about them

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<v Speaker 4>is that they it doesn't matter who is in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>They like to They're a team.

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<v Speaker 4>That run the ball from underneath center, so you know

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<v Speaker 4>you'll see a lot of the you'll see Golf take

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<v Speaker 4>the snap and he'll walk the ball to These backs

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<v Speaker 4>play right directly behind like a like an I formation

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<v Speaker 4>set up. And these backs both have tremendous patients. They

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<v Speaker 4>will allow blocks to develop. And when you look at

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<v Speaker 4>this offensive line in the way they block, it's pullers,

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<v Speaker 4>it's trappers, it's pinners, it's there's a lot of movement

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<v Speaker 4>going on and usually when you can and they'll play

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<v Speaker 4>with heavy personnel. And I'm saying this because of the backs,

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<v Speaker 4>because of how patient they are, but you sometimes you'll

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<v Speaker 4>find they'll have a move guy and he'll move and

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<v Speaker 4>he'll take you right to where the ball's going. And

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<v Speaker 4>then sometimes they'll have the guy move and he'll come

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<v Speaker 4>back and block back, but the ball will still go

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<v Speaker 4>to the front side. So they like to get a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of blockers at the point of attack. Okay, to

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<v Speaker 4>do all this, you have to have backs that are

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<v Speaker 4>very patient.

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<v Speaker 3>In the way they run.

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<v Speaker 4>They're just not gonna fire it up in there and

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<v Speaker 4>then get stopped for three yards. They're gonna let this

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<v Speaker 4>thing develop a little bit. They're gonna cut it. They're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna they're gonna they're gonna take it front side. They're

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<v Speaker 4>gonna explode. They're very, very difficult to uh to deal

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<v Speaker 4>with because of the running style is very similar. They're

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<v Speaker 4>tough fronters. They find holes, they have good vision. You

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<v Speaker 4>can toss it to them, you can hand it to

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<v Speaker 4>them inside, it doesn't matter. They're gonna make guys miss,

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<v Speaker 4>usually make the first guy miss and then get and

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<v Speaker 4>be problems for you on the second level.

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<v Speaker 7>That being said, it sounds like in order to be

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<v Speaker 7>successful you have to have a defensive front that's smart

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<v Speaker 7>and disciplined. How much is that a concern knowing that

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<v Speaker 7>they have a lot of players that are again just

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<v Speaker 7>getting accustomed to playing and with together as a unit.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the bigger problem you run into. Dallas's losses this

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<v Speaker 4>year have been with offensive lines that are able to

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<v Speaker 4>get blockers up on them. This group right here, when

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<v Speaker 4>you watch them block as a unit, they're not interested.

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<v Speaker 4>They're much like what we saw with the Ravens and

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<v Speaker 4>much like what we saw with the Saints. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>they will take a step, they will shove a guy

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<v Speaker 4>and then go. They're not interested in staying on sustaining.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like they're good enough that they trust rag now

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<v Speaker 4>Zeitler Uh Penny Seel. They trust that those guys will

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<v Speaker 4>one on one be able to block. So when they

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<v Speaker 4>combo block, it's not like stay on, secure the down

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<v Speaker 4>guy and then get second level. Dallas has played well

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<v Speaker 4>against teams that can't get blockers up on them. This

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be a challenge this week because you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to get They're going to shove Mazzy Smith to

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<v Speaker 4>the next guy and then they're gonna go. They're not

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<v Speaker 4>gonna even try, and you know it's like, hey, you're

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<v Speaker 4>good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Take him, I'm going up.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how these guys block, and that that's why their

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<v Speaker 4>running game is so good, because they're able to handle

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<v Speaker 4>those one on one blocks and then get it up

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<v Speaker 4>to the second level. So these linebackers for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna be fighting it all day with guys in

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<v Speaker 4>their face. It's it's going to be it's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be really, really a tough matchup.

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<v Speaker 7>I saw some interesting next gen stats on golf and said,

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<v Speaker 7>he attempted deep passes and that will be twenty plus

0:20:53.440 --> 0:20:55.600
<v Speaker 7>air yards just five point six.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't the attempts. They don't do it the.

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<v Speaker 7>League and six the seven of those passes went to

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<v Speaker 7>Jamison Williams, who will talk about in a second only

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<v Speaker 7>two completions out of that. My question is, how do

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<v Speaker 7>you disrupt golf? Like he obviously still has the ability

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<v Speaker 7>to get the ball out, He's got good receivers. They

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<v Speaker 7>still are moving the ball through the air. How do

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<v Speaker 7>you disrupt what they do in their passing game knowing

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<v Speaker 7>that again they're not really too worried about trying to

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<v Speaker 7>go deep on you.

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<v Speaker 4>No, and that's why it's hard to disrupt him because

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<v Speaker 4>the line is good as pass protectors. Where they do

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<v Speaker 4>struggle a little bit though, is with the is with

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<v Speaker 4>the blitz pick up stuff. Well, like Gibbs, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you look at pressures, where where I think you

0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:38.439
<v Speaker 4>need to attack if and this is where if Micah

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<v Speaker 4>was available or even tank, but someone's got to figure

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<v Speaker 4>out a way to get after Taylor Decker at the

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<v Speaker 4>left tackle. He's the one that allows the most pressures.

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<v Speaker 4>He's the one that can you could break down Penny

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<v Speaker 4>Sewel on the other side.

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<v Speaker 3>He's really really good on the on that right side there.

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<v Speaker 4>So if they have a problem in a couple of spots,

0:21:57.800 --> 0:22:02.600
<v Speaker 4>Decker at left tackle, if Ram Glass now plays center

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<v Speaker 4>instead of Frank Ragnow. These are funny names with the

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<v Speaker 4>ow last name endings, but if Ragnow doesn't play, that

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.120
<v Speaker 4>puts Glass now at center.

0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Now he struggles more at center than he.

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<v Speaker 4>Does at guard. That's where this is where the disruption

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<v Speaker 4>is going to have to happen. Because this team loves

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<v Speaker 4>to throw the ball in the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 4>There's I'VE i've When you watch these routes, you watch Williams,

0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:36.000
<v Speaker 4>Saint Brown, Raymond Robinson, Patrick, all these all these routes

0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:38.040
<v Speaker 4>are coming to the middle of the field. That's what

0:22:38.080 --> 0:22:40.560
<v Speaker 4>they want to do. Nobody throws more routes to the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of the field, in breaking routes, crossing routes than

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<v Speaker 4>these guys. So that's the that's the the idea is, though,

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to get people to him quick because he

0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.680
<v Speaker 4>is going to he's going to find that crosser, whether

0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:57.320
<v Speaker 4>it's a shallow crosser or somebody in the intermediate range.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny to watch him play. You're right, they don't

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<v Speaker 4>throw the ball on the field at all. I mean

0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 4>you don't see anything going deep at all, which is surprising.

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:07.199
<v Speaker 4>You know, Dallas is kind of giving up some deep balls.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe they'll try it just with you know what you

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned with Williams just running vertical, but they just don't

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:16.200
<v Speaker 4>run vertical routes. Everything is inbreaking. Everything is where where

0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.080
<v Speaker 4>the ball can get out quick. And you know that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's the issue they're they're they're not going to let

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 4>this quarterback get hit. But when they do let him

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:27.040
<v Speaker 4>get hit, it's Sheerley Taylor Decker on the left side,

0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 4>he's the one that gives up pressures and sacks. And

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<v Speaker 4>then also too, it's Graham Glass now, the center who's

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:37.080
<v Speaker 4>playing backup for Frank Ragnow. Now if Glass now has

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<v Speaker 4>to play guard, he will play left guard. If if

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<v Speaker 4>Ragnow plays this week, so then that will be the

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<v Speaker 4>next pressure point, the left side, left tackle and the

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<v Speaker 4>left guard.

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<v Speaker 7>We're starting to hear the possibilities that de Ron Bland

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<v Speaker 7>might return in some capacity.

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<v Speaker 3>To twenty five plays. I heard.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so if he's back, and hope maybe that you

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<v Speaker 7>get Carson back as well. Talk to me about how

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<v Speaker 7>they can against these guys, particularly Saint Brown and Williams.

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<v Speaker 7>I think those are the two guys you worry the

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<v Speaker 7>most about. We'll get to Sam Laporta in a second

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:08.959
<v Speaker 7>at the tight end position, but as the receivers, those

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<v Speaker 7>are two I think you worry about the most. How

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 7>does Dallas matchup?

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<v Speaker 3>Got thoughts on that one?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think here with with Jamis and Williams specifically,

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.639
<v Speaker 8>he's starting to really unload his back and in this season,

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<v Speaker 8>I think he's finally starting to find his footing dealt

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<v Speaker 8>with the suspension, kind of bounce back from that, and

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.680
<v Speaker 8>I think he's comfortable with the offense. Now you pair

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<v Speaker 8>him with am and Ross Saint Brown, who in my opinion,

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 8>is one of the better route runners in the entire league,

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 8>then you have a guy who could stretch the field. Now,

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.119
<v Speaker 8>again they haven't been doing that, but he is a

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<v Speaker 8>guy that can and.

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<v Speaker 2>He has one touchdown on a deep ball this year.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, you definitely got to keep him honest, But with

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<v Speaker 8>Jamison Williams. He's got a little bit of physicality off

0:24:42.280 --> 0:24:45.960
<v Speaker 8>the line that I think could disrupt either Bland or Carson.

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<v Speaker 8>Considering that they're both dealing with or not dealing with,

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:51.720
<v Speaker 8>but coming back from injuries, I think that physicality could

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:53.600
<v Speaker 8>lead to a couple of issues if either of those

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 8>guys were to match up. I personally like Bland on

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 8>am and Ra a little bit better and digs On

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:01.080
<v Speaker 8>Williams a little bit better. I think that would be

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<v Speaker 8>the favorable matchup for the Cowboys if they were to

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<v Speaker 8>line up against these guys on any given play. But

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<v Speaker 8>I do wonder if they're trotting Bland out in this

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:13.280
<v Speaker 8>limited role, you say, twenty five plays, Brian, then can

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.639
<v Speaker 8>those two guys build consistency as the game goes on.

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:17.720
<v Speaker 8>Is it a situation where they throw Bland out until

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:20.840
<v Speaker 8>he hits twenty five snaps or do they rotate Carson

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<v Speaker 8>and Bland in. I think that's probably what the solution

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<v Speaker 8>will be. And if that's the case, then how can

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<v Speaker 8>these guys build a rhythm against a really talented receiver

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<v Speaker 8>in Jamison Williams. Because what Jamison Williams is going to

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<v Speaker 8>do is he's going to pick up every single tendency

0:25:32.480 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 8>that each of those two guys have, and as they

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 8>come off the field and then come back on, He's

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<v Speaker 8>going to attack them whenever they come back on. So

0:25:38.000 --> 0:25:41.600
<v Speaker 8>he's a talented receiver. He comes from really a solid

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.480
<v Speaker 8>pedigree from his college and high school days. I think

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<v Speaker 8>he's a guy you definitely got to be able to

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<v Speaker 8>keep honest in this game. He is coming into his

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<v Speaker 8>own as an NFL receiver. He is just as deadly

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<v Speaker 8>as Am and Row.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's absolutely right about that, and you can

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 4>throw with their. Tim Patrick, though, too, has made some

0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 4>places for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Can he come from Denver to Tim Patrick?

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<v Speaker 8>He did? You mentioned Sam Will And I look at

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<v Speaker 8>this as a situation for a Marris Luifel or Marvin

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<v Speaker 8>Overshown to be able to cover. I've been kind of

0:26:08.280 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 8>toying with this idea in the last few the last

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<v Speaker 8>couple of weeks, specifically, when do you start rotating Markue's

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<v Speaker 8>bell in for Donovan Wilson, especially on passing downs. I

0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:19.760
<v Speaker 8>think there's a situation here where you look at it

0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 8>and if you want to send Marius Luifel on a

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.919
<v Speaker 8>third down blitz, which he has that type of ability,

0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 8>then you need a safety to be able to cover Laporta.

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<v Speaker 8>Bell's your guy. Bell's your guy that could do that.

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<v Speaker 8>He proved to do that last year. I wonder whenever

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<v Speaker 8>there is a situation when Bell comes in on passing

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<v Speaker 8>downs and they keep Wilson on the field for running downs,

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<v Speaker 8>I think that would be more beneficial for this defense.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what, I wouldn't be opposed to putting Jordan

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<v Speaker 4>Lewis on him too.

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<v Speaker 3>Seeing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean early in the season Laporta had an

0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:47.160
<v Speaker 4>ankle or foot injury and it was causing he wasn't

0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 4>running routes down the field.

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 3>He's back to running routes down the field now.

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<v Speaker 4>And I would not be opposed to if I'm going

0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:57.160
<v Speaker 4>to get beat by Tim Patrick or somebody like that

0:26:57.240 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 4>playing eleven personnel or whatever, so I'm not good enough

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:04.160
<v Speaker 4>then if I'm getting but if I you know, if

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:06.720
<v Speaker 4>I had to cover, if I had to play out

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 4>of the slot, you know, I mean, Saint Brown is

0:27:09.560 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 4>a pain in the rear, There's no question about that.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.359
<v Speaker 4>But I would maybe mix it up a little bit

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.919
<v Speaker 4>with the coverage between him and Laporta, with Jordan Lewis

0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 4>and just trying and throw they throw the rhythm off

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 4>a little bit by the Lions, like, we can't go

0:27:24.200 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 4>where they're putting. They're putting their one of their best

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 4>cover guys on one of our better receivers. And you

0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 4>know that, you know that Lewis will battle him. You

0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 4>know he'll stay with him, He'll battle him, He'll make

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 4>it a contesting catches and stuff. Laporta doesn't. I don't

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 4>think this guys have dropped a ball this year. By

0:27:41.640 --> 0:27:43.639
<v Speaker 4>the way, I was just sicking. I was curious.

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:44.360
<v Speaker 2>The whole team.

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the their skill guys. I don't think they have

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 4>a drop with their skill guys. I mean, and I

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.320
<v Speaker 4>think that includes the backs. I might be wrong about that,

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 4>but I was looking at numbers and I was like, going,

0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 4>these guys, don't you're gonna spell check me on this.

0:27:58.560 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 8>I'm looking here. That would be crazy.

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:02.800
<v Speaker 4>I think I saw a deal with well, you watch,

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 4>if you watch the Seattle game, the guy didn't.

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 3>Miss a pass.

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that was really I don't.

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Think they have a drop this. I don't think that

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 3>the receivers have a drop on.

0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 8>The First thing that popped up is the NFC Championship game.

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 8>Last year. They had four costantly drops in the second half,

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 8>so maybe that was emphasise this off. Yeah, stat anywhere

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 8>working on that.

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:20.600
<v Speaker 4>I think I was looking Yeah, I think I was

0:28:20.640 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 4>looking at on the next on our next gen stuff,

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 4>and I was just curious, like, do these guys drop

0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:25.840
<v Speaker 4>the ball?

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Because the quarterback was like.

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:31.000
<v Speaker 4>Eighteen of eighteen in that Seattle game, and I'm like, God, well,

0:28:31.000 --> 0:28:33.680
<v Speaker 4>I guess I haven't seen any but uh, but yeah,

0:28:33.680 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 4>this is It's a I would consider because Laporta is

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 4>is going to be tough to deal with. But you know,

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 4>like I say, Jordan Lewis is a tough, tough guy himself.

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:45.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I sure consider it.

0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 7>You know, take me back to last year when these

0:28:47.160 --> 0:28:50.240
<v Speaker 7>two teams matched up. It seems, if my memory serves

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 7>me correct, Sam Laporta didn't really have It wasn't until

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 7>closer to the end of the game that he really

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 7>got going and then he had some big plays for them.

0:28:58.520 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Is that how you guys remember it?

0:28:59.720 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 7>And and how did Dallas necessary Do you remember how

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:05.160
<v Speaker 7>maybe Dallas approached that last year with regards to Laporter.

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.360
<v Speaker 8>You mentioned just whenever he was able to kind of

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 8>find his rhythm in that game.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm saying I'm saying it seemed like most of

0:29:11.400 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 7>the game he wasn't really making big plays on Dallas.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:16.600
<v Speaker 7>Towards the end of the game, I think he made

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 7>a couple of big plays on them. But that being said,

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.120
<v Speaker 7>I was just wondering if Dallas even last year did

0:29:22.160 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 7>they consider using Jordan Lewis. Was Jordan Lewis a part

0:29:24.640 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 7>of the equation on how you how you take care

0:29:27.400 --> 0:29:27.920
<v Speaker 7>of Sam Wilson.

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 8>I believe he was. I can't recall specifically, but I

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 8>will mention just in general what I think worked against

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:43.480
<v Speaker 8>Detroit last year and the referees eligibility for sure, Skipper.

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 7>I think somebody, oh Skipper was losing his mind, so

0:29:47.320 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 7>he was part.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 8>Of all that he won the only one. Dan Campbell

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:50.760
<v Speaker 8>was about to come on.

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:51.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 8>I think what worked in that game last year, that

0:29:54.760 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 8>was a game that I expected them to lose by

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 8>two scores. I think what worked for them in that

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 8>game is they matched Detroit physicality and it blew my

0:30:01.320 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 8>mind because you didn't see it the rest of the

0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:06.160
<v Speaker 8>season or before that, And I think that's very similar

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 8>to what they had to do in this game. You know,

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 8>I talked about this team needing to be tough, and

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:10.920
<v Speaker 8>I think if they can match the physicality of a

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 8>Detroit Lions team, of a Detroit Lions tight end like

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 8>Sam Laporta, who does play physically, especially at the point

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 8>of attack and especially at the catch point as well,

0:30:22.440 --> 0:30:23.680
<v Speaker 8>you have to be able to line up with him

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 8>and throw a hand on.

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:25.880
<v Speaker 2>Give me some examples of that.

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 7>When you say they matched their physicality, tell me some

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 7>things that stood out to you, some specific things that

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 7>stood out to you where you were like, this is

0:30:33.000 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 7>what I'm this is what you need to see from

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<v Speaker 7>this team from the standpoint of the physicality.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, more so trench work, because that was where I

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<v Speaker 8>expected them to just get overwhelmed last year. But you

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<v Speaker 8>look at de Moont Clark, that was a game that

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<v Speaker 8>I really appreciated from him last season. I mean, dwonk Clark.

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<v Speaker 8>It looks like he's just a guy you're not going

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<v Speaker 8>to see on the defensive side too much for the

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<v Speaker 8>rest of the year with the linebackers that they have

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<v Speaker 8>on the team right now and kind of how that

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<v Speaker 8>snap share has been going around. But if we're talking

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<v Speaker 8>about last year's game, look at the front, look at

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<v Speaker 8>de Marcus Lawrence. I mean, he was really active in

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<v Speaker 8>the run game. So it's really tough that you don't

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<v Speaker 8>have him in this game with these two running backs,

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<v Speaker 8>specifically with Jamiir Gibbs, because DeMarcus Lawrence does such a

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<v Speaker 8>good job against outside zone type running backs. That is

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<v Speaker 8>what Jamiro Gibbs is. I will say, though, he is

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<v Speaker 8>starting to find his rhythm between the tackles. Finally, I

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<v Speaker 8>think once he really does find his stride there, he's

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<v Speaker 8>going to be a top three running back in the league.

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<v Speaker 8>I firmly believe that. But David Montgomery, I mean, he's

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<v Speaker 8>a guy you have to respect too when it comes

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<v Speaker 8>to physicality. He's a guy that will take it, go

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<v Speaker 8>down the hole and he'll lay a pop on you.

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<v Speaker 8>And I think with guys like Eric Kendricks Demarvin Overshow

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<v Speaker 8>shown so much physicality these first few weeks, those are

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<v Speaker 8>gonna have to be guys that phil run lanes and

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<v Speaker 8>lay a pop on these guys and make them rotate

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<v Speaker 8>off the field for a couple of plays, because you

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<v Speaker 8>saw that happen last year. And then as they're working

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<v Speaker 8>down the field on drives, guys are having to rotate

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 8>out and that's offensively. Defensively, you don't really see that

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<v Speaker 8>with Detroit in most games, unless they do play a

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 8>Tampa Bay who can match their physicality with guys like

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.200
<v Speaker 8>Tristan Wurf's up front. I think he did such a

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 8>good job. Graham Barton as well. But I think whenever

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<v Speaker 8>you look at the Cowboys case, specifically, you want Tyler

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 8>Smith to get after it and get nasty. You want

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<v Speaker 8>Cooper bb to do that as well. Well, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 8>be really imperative in this game.

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<v Speaker 7>All Right, we're gonna take our final break, we'll come back.

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<v Speaker 7>I got some names on the Cowboys defense, and I

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<v Speaker 7>want to get some evaluations from you guys on how

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<v Speaker 7>you think they've performed in this last game. A lot

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<v Speaker 7>of them this last game they played more than they've

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<v Speaker 7>played all season. So I want to figure out how

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<v Speaker 7>you guys feel like they played in that game and

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<v Speaker 7>then project what you think that might mean for this

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're doing work?

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<v Speaker 7>That sounds like something I would say, not being a

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<v Speaker 7>Spanish Yeah, right, anyway, I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>At the Star.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, so have some names for you guys, these are

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<v Speaker 7>all defensive players. Oh yeah, real quick, real quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I went back and looked at Sam laport by

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<v Speaker 4>the nearest defender. In last year's game, Marquis Spell carried

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<v Speaker 4>in for two snaps, two targets, two receptions thirty two yards.

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<v Speaker 4>Javon Curse had him for three, three targets, three receptions.

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<v Speaker 4>So against your safeties, he was he was five for five.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, let's make a distinctly bell as a linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, they called him a taftyar.

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<v Speaker 4>Donovan Wilson had him for three and he only had

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<v Speaker 4>one reception for fifteen yards. Shooting well, Clark was one

0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 4>for one. He had eight yards on that catch. Stefan Gilmore,

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<v Speaker 4>oh for two. Gilmore took put a corner on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Put a corner. How about this Bland?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh for one?

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, and they put the corners on him.

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<v Speaker 3>He went oh for three.

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<v Speaker 8>Something that they do like to do with little Porta

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<v Speaker 8>is they like to isolate him on one side of

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<v Speaker 8>the ball. But they'll like put him in the slot. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>and they'll have like three receivers to left right. They'll

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.480
<v Speaker 8>isolate him on the side with like a Gilmour or

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<v Speaker 8>a bland type of corner I'm talking about. Like with

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 8>other teams, he's able to beat them a little bit better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>because he has he has some wiggle.

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<v Speaker 3>He does.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a really talented This is a bunch formation team too.

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<v Speaker 4>They'll get you real tight in there and stuff, and

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 4>so gotta be ready for that. But it looked like

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<v Speaker 4>the corners. Actually maybe maybe maybe we're onto something here.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's your answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I need to tell Mike k Mike listened last

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:06.400
<v Speaker 3>year and they put corners on this dude and they

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 3>didn't have a catchy man.

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<v Speaker 7>All right, they listen, They listened, Hi, Mike, they listen.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's let's talk here. I got here's some

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<v Speaker 2>names for you.

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.239
<v Speaker 7>I've got some defensive players, and I want you guys

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 7>to tell me, give me some evaluations on what you

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<v Speaker 7>saw from this last game and what you project that

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<v Speaker 7>to be going forward. Let's start first with Carl Lawson defenceman.

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<v Speaker 8>I think when you look at his h his ability

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<v Speaker 8>to pass the rush or past the past the rusher,

0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 8>rush the passer. He does passed the rusher a lot.

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<v Speaker 8>He does, he does, he does, he does. But I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 8>I think there is an ability that he can kind

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 8>of unlock a little bit more, and it may just

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<v Speaker 8>be a product of him missing the majority of camp,

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 8>coming in late and then you know, obviously not really

0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 8>finding his footing just yet. But I think there is

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 8>another level that he could take. He's on the active

0:37:49.960 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 8>roster now. I would assume with the with the way

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.719
<v Speaker 8>he's been playing overall, then there's probably a way to

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<v Speaker 8>keep him on the active roster even when Parsons and

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<v Speaker 8>Lawrence come back. Yeah, but I think overall, you're wanting

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<v Speaker 8>a little bit more from Lawson. I think when I

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<v Speaker 8>look at all three of these defensive ends in general,

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<v Speaker 8>I don't want to get to ahead of ahead of

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<v Speaker 8>ahead of you. Here, Golston's been the one that I've appreciated.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get Like what you said, Agent.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean the way he watched him last game, Golston,

0:38:15.960 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean the way he played and the way he

0:38:18.239 --> 0:38:21.040
<v Speaker 5>just is so aggressive and powerful and just goes for it.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh, He's great.

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<v Speaker 5>I love him, Lawson. It's just kind of like with

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of everybody else in that position, you just

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:33.800
<v Speaker 5>want to see more from him. But I think for

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.799
<v Speaker 5>what is being asked, given the scenario that he's being

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 5>placed in he's been okay. Like he I see him

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<v Speaker 5>more of like your band aid type of guy that

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<v Speaker 5>he serves as a body and a presence that is

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 5>there in the absence of these other guys that are

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<v Speaker 5>not being there right now due to injury.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's band Aid's like an amputation that we're trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>The throat.

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<v Speaker 4>You feel that way when position it feels it feels

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 4>like it feels like I've lost my arm and it's

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 4>just blood is and like, here's Carl Lawson.

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 3>Standing there going he's trying to as blood's scoring. Even

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:22.920
<v Speaker 3>a tournique, it ain't working. This is some blood loss.

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 3>The thing with loss in the next we've talked about.

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<v Speaker 4>The schedule ahead, there's the you know, this game forty

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<v Speaker 4>nine ers, it's not going to get easier, I mean,

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 4>and the games that he's going to have to play,

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.840
<v Speaker 4>he's going to have to. If you can, somehow, some

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 4>way get Carl lost into five years ago, that would

0:39:41.160 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 4>be awesome. You're probably not going to get that, But

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.520
<v Speaker 4>don't be the guy that's a liability out there. You know,

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.759
<v Speaker 4>if you can play the run, if you get off

0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:50.840
<v Speaker 4>a block, if you get occasional pressure too, I'm not

0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.520
<v Speaker 4>asking to get two three sacks a game or anything

0:39:53.560 --> 0:39:55.640
<v Speaker 4>like that. I'm just asking you come up with a

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 4>pressure to play some run defense. Don't jump off sides

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 4>when it's third down and they throw the ball and

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 4>you intercepted and now you're now you know they get

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 4>a free play. You know, play with some discipline, be

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 4>a veteran, be a leader, do what you have to

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:13.200
<v Speaker 4>do to keep your job on the fifty three when

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:14.439
<v Speaker 4>everybody starts to come back.

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 8>I will say his first two elevations that he had

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 8>ahead of the Pittsburgh game, you saw him trying to

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 8>play a little bit more of that hero ball. And

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 8>when that was mentioned in the locker room, he wasn't

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:26.279
<v Speaker 8>the first guy that I thought, But when I went

0:40:26.360 --> 0:40:28.040
<v Speaker 8>back on tape, he was one of the guys that

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<v Speaker 8>you could probably look at on a few plays and

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<v Speaker 8>be like, Okay, he's trying to do a little bit

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 8>too much, maybe not knowing what's going on. SI man,

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 8>he's leaving some guys out to dry, especially in the

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 8>second level. You didn't see that as much at Pittsburgh.

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.279
<v Speaker 8>He's really starting to play with the unit. Now, well

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 8>he's got to figure it out as well. I mean

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 8>from locker room interactions to just kind of seeing them

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.040
<v Speaker 8>when I was with you guys just around the building

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.600
<v Speaker 8>and whatnot. He didn't really talk to anybody for a

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:51.960
<v Speaker 8>long time while he was here. After the game in Pittsburgh, him,

0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:54.359
<v Speaker 8>Chauncey GOLs and tyres Wee, they were inseparable and they

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:55.880
<v Speaker 8>were in the locker room. They were chopping it up.

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 8>They were laughing about how Carlawston somehow got attributed with

0:40:58.360 --> 0:41:00.080
<v Speaker 8>the half sack. They were like, you didn't deserve that,

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 8>but they were laughing back and forth about it. It

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<v Speaker 8>was the first time I've seen Carlawston really integrate with

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 8>any of these guys since he's been here. I think

0:41:05.680 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 8>that's you talk about locker room stuff. That is big,

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 8>especially with those guys right now, because those three guys

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 8>really have to come together and they can't. They can't

0:41:13.120 --> 0:41:15.440
<v Speaker 8>isolate either one. They can't try to play hero ball.

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 8>They have to play together as a unit or it

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:18.960
<v Speaker 8>will not work until they get Parsons and Lawrence back.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'll give my GELTT shout out to my guy

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 7>Alex Lily on Sounds of the Sideline, same thing he

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 7>captured them on the.

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Sideline talking about that. Yeah, he sent it out.

0:41:27.880 --> 0:41:29.239
<v Speaker 7>We sent it out this morning. But it was a good,

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 7>good video as usual. But they were talking about the

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 7>same thing at that time and kind of joking around

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:35.360
<v Speaker 7>like I don't know half sack. I don't know he

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 7>was already down whatever.

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it was good.

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 8>It was that Carlawston ended up did getting the half

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.279
<v Speaker 8>sack and they're like, oh whatever, Yeah it was.

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:42.400
<v Speaker 2>But it's true though.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, I think I think a lot of times

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 7>when you go to a new teams people don't necessarily

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.759
<v Speaker 7>think about that integrating into a locker room with fifty

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:52.439
<v Speaker 7>three guys when you're from from outside and these guys

0:41:52.480 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 7>have been around each other, they know each other, a

0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 7>lot of them been around each other for years.

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 8>He didn't know anybody.

0:41:56.680 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, sometimes breaking into that can be a little difficult,

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:01.640
<v Speaker 7>especially if you're not playing. And so I do think

0:42:01.719 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 7>him actually playing on the field gives them that that

0:42:04.520 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 7>opportunity to bond. And you talked about the three guys

0:42:07.160 --> 0:42:10.240
<v Speaker 7>that primarily were playing defensive end for you last weekend,

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 7>and that that becomes a bonding point. You go through

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:15.600
<v Speaker 7>adversity with somebody, that becomes a bonding point. So hopefully

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 7>that that continues and their chemistry continues to grow.

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 2>As a part of that as well.

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<v Speaker 7>Talk to me about Mazzie Smith. What you guys see

0:42:21.920 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 7>from Ozzie Smith last week, right.

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:29.200
<v Speaker 3>It was much. I think he was better against the Giants.

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 4>I still feel like, though the effort is really good,

0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 4>his pad level gets him in trouble at times. And

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 4>it's not I don't think it's because of conditioning and

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:42.359
<v Speaker 4>things like that. I think he just forgets to play

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.080
<v Speaker 4>with ben de knees and fire off the ball and

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:48.840
<v Speaker 4>control blockers. Did a great job against the Giants doing that.

0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Played low, played square, played where he I mean this

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.239
<v Speaker 4>one he it wasn't getting late, it was just he

0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.400
<v Speaker 4>gets too high at times. He gets a little he

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 4>gets in and instead of staying down, he plays up

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 4>and then it allows to catch him. And you know,

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:06.520
<v Speaker 4>here was a team that was not going to get

0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 4>any blockers up on the second level. So he was

0:43:08.600 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 4>fighting double team blocks really the whole day. But he

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:13.799
<v Speaker 4>was too high a couple of different times. He got

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 4>to play a better knee bend, got to do a

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 4>better job of getting rid of guys and playing with power.

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.759
<v Speaker 4>He'll have his hands full this weekend with you now,

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.480
<v Speaker 4>if Glass now is the center. That's a little bit

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 4>different story. Rag now will snatch you and you know

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 4>you've got to be ready for that. But he's got

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.200
<v Speaker 4>to play with better bend at knees in these games.

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 8>I agree with your point on him being better versus

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.120
<v Speaker 8>the Giants. Again, that was a career game for him.

0:43:37.400 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 8>I think something that helped him against Pittsburgh that I

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 8>think could be a trend as you look forward into

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 8>the season, Limball Joseph helped him out a lot more.

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.440
<v Speaker 8>And the since that he rotated on the field, he

0:43:48.600 --> 0:43:51.000
<v Speaker 8>was pushing some guys on their butt and Limball Joseph

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 8>had his best game is now with Cowboys like he

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:53.920
<v Speaker 8>was in shape.

0:43:54.280 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 7>But my hope is that now that's where he's getting

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 7>like he's a good player. We all thought he was

0:43:57.960 --> 0:43:59.440
<v Speaker 7>a good player when they signed him. He just had

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 7>to get there because he didn't do training camp.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 8>And I think when you look at Mazzie Smith's case,

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:05.440
<v Speaker 8>whenever you get put on your butt and then you

0:44:05.600 --> 0:44:08.839
<v Speaker 8>have a really athletic type of one tech because he's

0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.520
<v Speaker 8>he's not an athletic person, but when you factor in

0:44:12.640 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 8>that he is what he is at nose tackle, he

0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 8>is an athletic being and whenever you have to account

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.480
<v Speaker 8>for that after getting put on your butt, it's difficult.

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 8>And you saw some of those snaps where he would

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 8>rotate on for the first couple of snaps and he

0:44:23.719 --> 0:44:25.279
<v Speaker 8>would be able to beat some guys. He would able

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 8>to be able to slide over, you know, reach around

0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:29.600
<v Speaker 8>and be able to grab some running lanes. I think

0:44:29.640 --> 0:44:32.319
<v Speaker 8>that that was really big limbal Joseph being able whenever

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 8>he did rotate in, it wasn't pedestrian work, it was

0:44:35.360 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 8>it was Mazzie Smith was able to rotate back in

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:39.759
<v Speaker 8>with these guys still reeling, that really hasn't been the

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:40.839
<v Speaker 8>case these first four weeks.

0:44:41.280 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Right well, I think, why am I this way? I

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 5>don't understand, but I I think with him, my bar

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 5>is set so low that right now it's not right

0:44:54.160 --> 0:44:56.800
<v Speaker 5>now like I feel positive about him, you know, like

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.359
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, Okay, that's two games in a row where

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:03.239
<v Speaker 5>he's showing progress. And more importantly for me, this thing,

0:45:03.480 --> 0:45:05.879
<v Speaker 5>the mental part of it, where he's willing to keep

0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 5>fighting and he's willing to stay in there because we

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.520
<v Speaker 5>know how last year was and we talked about this

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 5>over and over during training camp, just kind of the

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 5>the verbal beat down that he was receiving from his coach,

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 5>and that can really mess you up mentally, and you

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.399
<v Speaker 5>don't know, like you know, A'm I even made out

0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:27.000
<v Speaker 5>for this. It can mess you up in that way.

0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 5>But I like his tenacity and wanting to just keep fighting,

0:45:31.719 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 5>and just now you're trying to get a little bit

0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:38.160
<v Speaker 5>more of consistency from him. Is not fully there, but

0:45:38.880 --> 0:45:43.040
<v Speaker 5>you're starting to see moments of it where it's positive

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:49.320
<v Speaker 5>plays here and there. Yeah, exactly, so imp but again

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:51.279
<v Speaker 5>my virus said, like all the way down here, but

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:55.120
<v Speaker 5>he so I'm feeling okay with him obviously year two.

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 5>For a guy like that where you picked him in

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 5>the draft, you want to see a lot more from him,

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 5>but hopefully he'll get there.

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:04.280
<v Speaker 8>I had an off the record conversation with Jonathan Hankins

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:05.719
<v Speaker 8>in the locker room last year, and I won't share

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:07.399
<v Speaker 8>anything from that conversation because it was off the record,

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 8>but one could because he was when people do that,

0:46:11.719 --> 0:46:15.040
<v Speaker 8>because it was a point out, some point that he

0:46:15.160 --> 0:46:17.240
<v Speaker 8>made that is always stuck in my head with Mazzie Smith,

0:46:17.360 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 8>and if if I didn't have this point in my head,

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 8>I probably would have gave up completely on Mozzie Smith

0:46:22.360 --> 0:46:24.920
<v Speaker 8>after last season, and after a couple of weeks in

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 8>training camp too, because I just didn't see it even

0:46:26.719 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 8>after we were an Oxnard for a little bit, but

0:46:28.680 --> 0:46:31.640
<v Speaker 8>he said, He's like, hey, I respect you, but the

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.840
<v Speaker 8>nose tackle position, no one really understands how hard it

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:36.840
<v Speaker 8>is to come into this league and play nose tackle

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 8>early in your career and succeed at it. He's like,

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:40.399
<v Speaker 8>there's not a lot of guys that do that. Aaron

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:43.960
<v Speaker 8>Donald's done that. There's been a slow handful. He's like,

0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:45.440
<v Speaker 8>go back and look at me. When I was first

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:47.359
<v Speaker 8>starting my first two three years, it was the worst

0:46:47.360 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 8>football played in my career, including college. And then he

0:46:49.719 --> 0:46:51.879
<v Speaker 8>we look up and he's fourteen years in a league

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 8>or however long it's been. So I've always factored that

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 8>in because he's right, I don't know what it takes

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 8>to be able to play at the nose tackle position,

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 8>and so I've kind of factor that in. And now

0:47:01.320 --> 0:47:03.279
<v Speaker 8>as he's starting to put these good games together, that

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 8>conversation is really starting to key back into my brain

0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.360
<v Speaker 8>like he may have been onto something there and it

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:09.480
<v Speaker 8>may may be coming along a little bit quicker for

0:47:09.560 --> 0:47:11.279
<v Speaker 8>Mazie than it did for Handkins. And if that's the case,

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 8>that's a beautiful scenario for the Cowboys.

0:47:13.200 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 7>That's a great story because it does it does give

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:17.920
<v Speaker 7>you some perspective from someone who has that to do it.

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 7>And now that we look at him, we say he's

0:47:19.960 --> 0:47:22.000
<v Speaker 7>been a he's had a really good career for defensive

0:47:22.040 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 7>tackle in the NFL one technique and so, uh yeah,

0:47:24.600 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 7>that's that's good perspective.

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:27.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, Appreciate you guys. You know, we'll be back tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 7>We'll drive dive into the defense for the Detroit Lions

0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:32.879
<v Speaker 7>versus the Cowboys offense till then for Nick Carris.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian brought us in Abergarci.

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