1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely? 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? 9 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 6: Yeah, and so much for that. 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: We were on with Mbar Garcia. 12 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: Brian brought us, Nick Harris and Derek Eagleton. 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 7: It is Wednesday, October ninth, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 14 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 7: episode number forty five. Welcome to the latest edition Oh 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 7: the Break. We're live from thats WBC Mortgage Studios at 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,919 Speaker 7: the Star, presented by lglg's the world's number one oh 17 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 7: led TV brand for eleven years in counting. See why 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 7: at at LG dot Com, Forward slash o, led Evo. 19 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: How's everybody doing it? 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 3: Doing well? 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 8: Doing well? Back in the building. 22 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 3: Sorry guys, to have you back. 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 8: Yeah, last couple days have been a little bit of 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 8: a hustle and bustle, but back in the building. 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: But we held it down. 26 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 7: Brian had some good questions for us yesterday, so we 27 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 7: had a good discussion yesterday. Maybe some of those topics 28 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 7: come up today. We'll get your opinions on them. Let's 29 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 7: start first, though, with some injury updates. Obviously, the Cowboys 30 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 7: roster is a mass unit and uh and they're just 31 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 7: kind of managing right now. 32 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: Let's start first with Marshaw Neelan. 33 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 7: Obviously, after being injured in the game, the expectation is 34 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 7: he's gonna miss some weeks. They did actually sign and 35 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 7: got to the practice squad last week. kJ Henry Brian, 36 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 7: I don't. 37 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 8: I don't think signed to active ross, active active roster. 38 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 7: Sorry, I don't think we got a scouter report on 39 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 7: him last week. 40 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 4: We'll see what I could do for you to give 41 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 4: me a little scouter report. Let me let me see 42 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: if I could do that for you. All right, sent 43 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: day g ag, you. 44 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: Want to do it? 45 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 4: Got that scouting report to pull it up? I got 46 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 4: it right here, watch me, watch me do this. 47 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 8: Just trying to buy time with me, trying to buy 48 00:01:59,200 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 8: some time. 49 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just wanted to make sure I had it 50 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 4: because I got all these scouting reports in my head. 51 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 7: The consummate radio guy knows you can't have dead air, 52 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 7: so he's like, can. 53 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 4: You okay, kJ Henry, this he's he was on the 54 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 4: Cincinni practice squad and I watched him on the Commanders. 55 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: He was a fifth round pick by the Commanders in 56 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty three NFL Draft, and he's. 57 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: Got really good link. 58 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 4: I like the way that he could play off blocks 59 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 4: because of the link. I think that helped him. I 60 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: saw some redirect skills in him. I didn't see a 61 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: guy that was just up the field and then you know, 62 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: and then got stuck. Like he was able to kind 63 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: of come back and make some play. They played him 64 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 4: as a stand up guy at times, so stand up, 65 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: hand down both with the with that the read option 66 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 4: stuff I thought was pretty good. They got a game 67 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 4: against Carolina preseason game where they had to were kind 68 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: of doing some of that read option stuff, and he 69 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: looked like he was playing with some pretty good discipline 70 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 4: and not to get fooled on that. The good patience 71 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 4: balance good with his inside moves. I thought he closed 72 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 4: down quickly on the plays that went away from him 73 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 4: and squeezed the hole pretty well. Movement from the. 74 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: Backside is really good. 75 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: Good can gain some ground with that first step and 76 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: finds his way to the corner, can capture. But I 77 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 4: think he needed to be more consistent doing that. I 78 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: kind of felt like that he got there, but he 79 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 4: couldn't exactly get around it with any kind of real 80 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 4: consistency there. So I'm really pressed with the way he 81 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: was able to kind of control blockers and how he 82 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 4: extends on blockers, and so I felt like that there's 83 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 4: gonna be some depth with the current group that you 84 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 4: got surprised he wasn't active the other day, and I 85 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 4: guess he just wasn't ready to play. Maybe he didn't 86 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: know what was going on. But I saw him as 87 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 4: a positive player. You know, when you start to poach guys. 88 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: He was a guy my Gang of seven if you're 89 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 4: new to the show, My Gang of seven, or my 90 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 4: guys and gals around the league, the general managers and 91 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: player personnel, guys that do the film every weekend. I 92 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: asked him for three names of guys to go poach, 93 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 4: and he was the top name on four. 94 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 3: Of the seven. Okay that they said that. 95 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: My guy said, hey, if you're gonna go poach an 96 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: Edge kJ Henry from Cincinnati was for the seven had 97 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: him as the top guy. 98 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 8: So here we go. In your opinion, why was he 99 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 8: relegated to a practice squad in Cincinnati this year? 100 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: You know it's I don't know, it's Cincinnati and Cincinnati 101 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 4: struggling with her defense too. You know, maybe the maybe 102 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: the thing that bought that that teams are that we're 103 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 4: looking at of him, it's the probably the pass. 104 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: Rush stuff's because he's just. 105 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: Not I didn't see a guy that was that. We 106 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 4: always talk about the Bendi being able to kind of 107 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 4: get to the and then find his way to the quarterback. 108 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: That was a little bit of a struggle for him, 109 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 4: Like he he kind of gets there, but it just 110 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,919 Speaker 4: doesn't have that ability to capture that then go. And 111 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 4: I kind of felt like maybe that's where people are 112 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 4: kind of knocking him a little bit on his Did. 113 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: You remember him? Do you remember him coming out of college? 114 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: Not? 115 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 8: Actually really? Yeah, this is a new name whenever he 116 00:04:57,440 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 8: popped up last week. 117 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, well he was, uh, Like I say, I was. 118 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 4: I was impressed with the ability, some of the athletic 119 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: ability that he showed, But the pass rush stuff, I 120 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 4: think that it's gonna take a little time there maybe. 121 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 7: But you know, honestly, if you tell me he's a 122 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 7: better run defender than he is a pass rusher, I'm 123 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 7: comfortable with that in the short term. Knowing that you 124 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,679 Speaker 7: got to have to make just kind of make things 125 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 7: go right now. And the worst thing you can do 126 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 7: is get somebody who can't stop the run, yeah, because 127 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 7: they already got problems there. So I look at it 128 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 7: and that, to me, that would be a win. 129 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: He at least shows how to play the run. Well, 130 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: that's the thing. 131 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 4: And the opportunities he got, you know, so that the 132 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: discipline I think when you when you the one thing 133 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: to Dallas has kind of struggled with a little bit. 134 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 4: And boy, it'll be a different type of running game 135 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 4: this week that we're going to talk about here in 136 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 4: a few minutes. But but but still, yeah, you know, 137 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: as far as the depth piece and stuff like that, 138 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: the right size, the length. You know, I'm hey, you 139 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 4: know what if for my seven guys and gals say, no, man, 140 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: take a look at this guy. I mean, he's a 141 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 4: guy that we would go get and I would I 142 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: trust that Dallas did the right thing here, you know, 143 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: instead of just signing somebody off the street that they're 144 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: gonna have. This guy's been practicing, he's been playing, he's 145 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: been in a training camp. You know, all those things 146 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: are kind of positives going forward. 147 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 7: One other name Cowboys look like they're expected to sign 148 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 7: a new defensive end to their practice squad. 149 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 2: Luigi Villain. Is that how you pronounce it? Is Luigi 150 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 2: or Luigi Luigi? 151 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 8: I hope it's Luigi Villain, but I think it's Vilaine. 152 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: And actually Villain is so much better. 153 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 7: Right, I was like, this is a perfect wrestling name, right, Yeah, 154 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 7: Oligi Villain, like the perfect Nino sixty four. 155 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 4: Now I don't know anything about Luigi. Yeah, I don't 156 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 4: know anything about Luigi because I was working on the Lions. 157 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: Well, we'll figure that figure out. 158 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 7: But he's on the they're signing to practic QA likely 159 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 7: is he will probably wouldn't be up this week anyway, 160 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 7: catch right, Probably the guy that's gonna. 161 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: We don't study the practice squad d But when about that, 162 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 4: I think it's the active call we'll study. 163 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 7: But the point is they're doing more, They're getting more bodies, 164 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 7: and I think that's really the key to this is 165 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 7: that they're going to need bodies to be able to 166 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 7: sustain them. 167 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: I think the point you made yesterday because I tried 168 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: to convince you to go trade for a defensive end 169 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 4: and you weren't biten. His reason for not trading, I 170 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 4: asked him, and I'll ask you this question, though, do 171 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: you think this do you think this front off is 172 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 4: now it's imperative that they go and trade for a 173 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: legitimate defensive end. 174 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 8: The thing is, if you go and you trade for 175 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 8: a legitimate defensive end, I almost said a name that 176 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 8: would have been back. I got to get back in 177 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 8: the framework if they went and traded for a legitimate 178 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 8: defensive end that is potentially on the market. You're getting 179 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 8: him for three four games in an increased role, right, 180 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 8: and he's expected to come in and play those three 181 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 8: four games as your guy. He's going to be great. 182 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 8: But then once Michael Parsons comes back to Marcus Lawrence 183 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 8: comes back, Marshaw k Neelan comes back, Sam Williams comes 184 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 8: back next year, what do you do with this guy? 185 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: Well, see, this is the thing about it is you're 186 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: thinking about six games for kneel in six games for Tank, 187 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: so you. 188 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 8: Know, definitely, yeah, you need some help. Yeah, but is 189 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 8: there enough confidence from you for what Chauncey Golson and 190 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 8: Tires Wheat and Carl Lawson did on Sunday against Oh. 191 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: No, it helped my soul that they played well. 192 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 4: But see But when we talked about when we talked 193 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 4: about the playing against the Steelers, remember it was kind 194 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 4: of like, well, they've got some issues that they've got 195 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 4: some issues that tackle, and you're about to play a 196 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: team this might be the best offensive line you play 197 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 4: against all year. 198 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: You'll find out this might be the best one. 199 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 2: Better than better than when they're fully healthy. 200 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 8: I think so, Yeah, I think so too. 201 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it depending on what happens with Frank ragnow the center, 202 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 4: you know what. 203 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: His situation is. 204 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: But yeah, there, this is this is going to be 205 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: a legitimate that this is going to be hang on 206 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 4: to your you know what, because it's this is going 207 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 4: to be tough. They're gonna have to. 208 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 3: So we'll see. We'll see. 209 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: With Wheat and Golston and those guys, it's how they 210 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 4: play against. I felt like that they matched up well 211 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: enough against the Steelers, But who matches up well against 212 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 4: these guys. I mean, obviously the Buccaneers went to Detroit 213 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 4: and beat them, but everybody else, I mean, Seattle in 214 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: these games. I'm watching the Arizona game and just you know, 215 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 4: it's pretty tough up front. 216 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 5: So you guys talk about the players that are expected 217 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 5: to come back to injured guys, and I love how 218 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 5: everyone is just we're expecting them to return. It'd be great, 219 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 5: be good, like and this I'm not trying to be negative. 220 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 5: Maybe it's just the anxious person. No, it's the anxious 221 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 5: person in me that I'm always dealing with anxiety and 222 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 5: I'm always thinking worst case scenario and I dealing with 223 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 5: all that. But it's like, we know that when players 224 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 5: return hurt it takes them a while. 225 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 2: I don't know that that. I don't know that I 226 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: agree with that. 227 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 7: When you're talking about a player returning in season and 228 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 7: a veteran player like say Micah or Tank. Yes, for 229 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 7: Sam Williams, that would be concerned after he miss is 230 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 7: an entire year and then comes back after that year 231 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 7: and returns coming off an injury, this should be concerned about, 232 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 7: like how long is it going to take him to 233 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 7: ramp up to getting. 234 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: Back to what he was? 235 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 7: But I don't know if that's necessarily the case when 236 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 7: you're talking about veteran guys that miss a few weeks, 237 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 7: like they've gone through training camp, they played a few games, 238 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 7: they get hurt, they're out for a few weeks, and 239 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 7: then they come back. 240 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 241 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 7: I necessarily think it's going to take ramp up time 242 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 7: for them to get back to playing as they were 243 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 7: playing before. 244 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 5: Oh no, I do think so with certain players. I mean, 245 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 5: not everyone's turn Smith that can get hurt and then 246 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 5: when he comes back, he's playing at a high level. 247 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 5: And I hope I'm wrong you're saying that. But it's 248 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 5: just something to keep in mind that even when they 249 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 5: were healthy, they weren't playing at such an amazing level yet. 250 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 8: So that's another I think. 251 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 5: About just the defense in general, overall unit everyone put together. 252 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 5: That's another thing that it was also a problem. Man. 253 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 4: You just thinking about Pollard and Steel and there has 254 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 4: been a history up until late. 255 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 3: I mean if you think about the guys. 256 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: Out for longer periods of time though, is what I'm 257 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: saying though. 258 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: Right, Oh no, I mean for the year, That's what 259 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: I'm saying. That's what. Yeah, I see where. 260 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 5: You're expected to return a law sooner because you're in season, 261 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 5: so you're you're doing what you can. So I don't know. 262 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 8: I mean, I'm again, it's anxiety just like type of situation. 263 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 4: What the problem is now is when we looked at 264 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: the schedule in May, when it came out and you're like, 265 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 4: you play the win loss game and you're thinking, oh, Atlanta, Commanders. 266 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 4: I saw a stat the other day, Dallas is only 267 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 4: a forty eight chance at best to win if win 268 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: any of those games. I mean there's some they're like, 269 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: you know, the Commanders, what you would say, Commanders, how. 270 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: Much are they going to win by? 271 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: That was the question, Atlanta, let's go, you know. 272 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 4: But now it's like this row of games coming up 273 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 4: and you're going, damn, but they're gonna win any of them. 274 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: But these players, that's what I'm saying, Yeah, you're gonna 275 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 4: miss all these like you this week when we start 276 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: to talk about the Lions and where you can attack, 277 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 4: what are their tackles? Is who you need to go 278 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 4: after and we'll get into that, But this is a 279 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: game you would love to have had Micah just for 280 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 4: the reason of they could He could break this guy 281 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 4: down and I don't know if the others can't. 282 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: But that's that's the problem I'm running into right now. 283 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: I'm just don't feel like I feel like I'm kind 284 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 4: of showing up at a fight and I don't have 285 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 4: all the weapons. 286 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt, but fight the battle to your point 287 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 7: about the schedule and looking at the schedule, I think 288 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 7: there's there's already been those moments too where you didn't 289 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 7: think New Orleans when we saw the record, we were 290 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 7: like they saw the schedule, we were like, Okay. 291 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: That's kind of where they are right now. Yeah. Yeah. 292 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 7: And then but then the flip side of that is 293 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 7: Pittsburgh was probably better than what I thought they were 294 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 7: when the schedule came out, and Cowboys going to win 295 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 7: that one. 296 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: So the NFL is just a strange lady. You just 297 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: never know what's going to happen, and you don't know 298 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 2: it's too early. 299 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 7: In the year to know who's really good and who's 300 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 7: really not, and and like where you're seeing things that 301 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 7: really will matter as the as the season plays out. 302 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: I just I'm looking at the Commanders every week, and 303 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 4: they had defense is thirty first in most categories, their 304 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 4: offenses first or second, and everything else. It's very much 305 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: a it's a it's a weird team. Is if you 306 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 4: could deal with their offense, you got a chance. If 307 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: you don't, they're probably gonna beat you. Yeah, it's just 308 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 4: a weird, weird season. 309 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 7: The Yeah, I watched that that whole game last week 310 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 7: because we were at the hotel waiting for our game. 311 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 7: And yeah, they look really good, especially offensive. 312 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 4: Cleveland kind of can be a little bit of a trainer, 313 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: but Cleftand's defense, You feel like Cleveland's defense is pretty good. 314 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, that offense and that that Washington offense looks really 315 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 7: good right now. And they got a number of guys 316 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 7: all yeah, it's crazy the number of guys that can 317 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 7: actually get you on any given play. 318 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 4: Well, Cliff Kingsbury, the OC there has learned how to 319 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 4: run the ball. You finally figured out how to run 320 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: the ball to go with all the craziness that he 321 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: throws at you. 322 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 8: You have three running backs, so you can hand it 323 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 8: off to. 324 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 2: It makes no doubt easier. 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I want to start 391 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 7: at the part of this offense that I think can 392 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 7: be most problematic. Like Pittsburgh, they run a lot. They 393 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 7: are fourth in the league and rush attempts. Unlike Pittsburgh, 394 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 7: they're very good at it. Now they're sixth in the 395 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 7: league at rushing yards. Give me a scatony report on 396 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 7: David Montgomery and jamieer Gibbs. 397 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, two of the better backs that you're going to face, 398 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 4: and they they're really interchangeable. The great thing about them 399 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 4: is that they it doesn't matter who is in the game. 400 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 3: They like to They're a team. 401 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: That run the ball from underneath center, so you know 402 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 4: you'll see a lot of the you'll see Golf take 403 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 4: the snap and he'll walk the ball to These backs 404 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 4: play right directly behind like a like an I formation 405 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 4: set up. And these backs both have tremendous patients. They 406 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: will allow blocks to develop. And when you look at 407 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: this offensive line in the way they block, it's pullers, 408 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: it's trappers, it's pinners, it's there's a lot of movement 409 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 4: going on and usually when you can and they'll play 410 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: with heavy personnel. And I'm saying this because of the backs, 411 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 4: because of how patient they are, but you sometimes you'll 412 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 4: find they'll have a move guy and he'll move and 413 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 4: he'll take you right to where the ball's going. And 414 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: then sometimes they'll have the guy move and he'll come 415 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 4: back and block back, but the ball will still go 416 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: to the front side. So they like to get a 417 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 4: lot of blockers at the point of attack. Okay, to 418 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: do all this, you have to have backs that are 419 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 4: very patient. 420 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 3: In the way they run. 421 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 4: They're just not gonna fire it up in there and 422 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 4: then get stopped for three yards. They're gonna let this 423 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: thing develop a little bit. They're gonna cut it. They're 424 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 4: gonna they're gonna they're gonna take it front side. They're 425 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 4: gonna explode. They're very, very difficult to uh to deal 426 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 4: with because of the running style is very similar. They're 427 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 4: tough fronters. They find holes, they have good vision. You 428 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: can toss it to them, you can hand it to 429 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: them inside, it doesn't matter. They're gonna make guys miss, 430 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 4: usually make the first guy miss and then get and 431 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: be problems for you on the second level. 432 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 7: That being said, it sounds like in order to be 433 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 7: successful you have to have a defensive front that's smart 434 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 7: and disciplined. How much is that a concern knowing that 435 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 7: they have a lot of players that are again just 436 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 7: getting accustomed to playing and with together as a unit. 437 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, the bigger problem you run into. Dallas's losses this 438 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 4: year have been with offensive lines that are able to 439 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: get blockers up on them. This group right here, when 440 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 4: you watch them block as a unit, they're not interested. 441 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 4: They're much like what we saw with the Ravens and 442 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: much like what we saw with the Saints. It's like 443 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: they will take a step, they will shove a guy 444 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 4: and then go. They're not interested in staying on sustaining. 445 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 4: It's like they're good enough that they trust rag now 446 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 4: Zeitler Uh Penny Seel. They trust that those guys will 447 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 4: one on one be able to block. So when they 448 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 4: combo block, it's not like stay on, secure the down 449 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 4: guy and then get second level. Dallas has played well 450 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 4: against teams that can't get blockers up on them. This 451 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 4: is going to be a challenge this week because you're 452 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 4: going to get They're going to shove Mazzy Smith to 453 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 4: the next guy and then they're gonna go. They're not 454 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: gonna even try, and you know it's like, hey, you're 455 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 4: good enough. 456 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 3: Take him, I'm going up. 457 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: That's how these guys block, and that that's why their 458 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 4: running game is so good, because they're able to handle 459 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 4: those one on one blocks and then get it up 460 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 4: to the second level. So these linebackers for the Cowboys 461 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: are gonna be fighting it all day with guys in 462 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 4: their face. It's it's going to be it's going to 463 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 4: be really, really a tough matchup. 464 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 7: I saw some interesting next gen stats on golf and said, 465 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 7: he attempted deep passes and that will be twenty plus 466 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 7: air yards just five point six. 467 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 2: They don't the attempts. They don't do it the. 468 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 7: League and six the seven of those passes went to 469 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 7: Jamison Williams, who will talk about in a second only 470 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 7: two completions out of that. My question is, how do 471 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 7: you disrupt golf? Like he obviously still has the ability 472 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 7: to get the ball out, He's got good receivers. They 473 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 7: still are moving the ball through the air. How do 474 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 7: you disrupt what they do in their passing game knowing 475 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 7: that again they're not really too worried about trying to 476 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 7: go deep on you. 477 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 4: No, and that's why it's hard to disrupt him because 478 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 4: the line is good as pass protectors. Where they do 479 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: struggle a little bit though, is with the is with 480 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 4: the blitz pick up stuff. Well, like Gibbs, you know, 481 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 4: when you look at pressures, where where I think you 482 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 4: need to attack if and this is where if Micah 483 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 4: was available or even tank, but someone's got to figure 484 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: out a way to get after Taylor Decker at the 485 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 4: left tackle. He's the one that allows the most pressures. 486 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 4: He's the one that can you could break down Penny 487 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 4: Sewel on the other side. 488 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: He's really really good on the on that right side there. 489 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 4: So if they have a problem in a couple of spots, 490 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: Decker at left tackle, if Ram Glass now plays center 491 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 4: instead of Frank Ragnow. These are funny names with the 492 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 4: ow last name endings, but if Ragnow doesn't play, that 493 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 4: puts Glass now at center. 494 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: Now he struggles more at center than he. 495 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 4: Does at guard. That's where this is where the disruption 496 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 4: is going to have to happen. Because this team loves 497 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: to throw the ball in the middle of the field. 498 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 4: There's I'VE i've When you watch these routes, you watch Williams, 499 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: Saint Brown, Raymond Robinson, Patrick, all these all these routes 500 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: are coming to the middle of the field. That's what 501 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 4: they want to do. Nobody throws more routes to the 502 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 4: middle of the field, in breaking routes, crossing routes than 503 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 4: these guys. So that's the that's the the idea is, though, 504 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 4: You've got to get people to him quick because he 505 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 4: is going to he's going to find that crosser, whether 506 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 4: it's a shallow crosser or somebody in the intermediate range. 507 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 4: It's funny to watch him play. You're right, they don't 508 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 4: throw the ball on the field at all. I mean 509 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 4: you don't see anything going deep at all, which is surprising. 510 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 4: You know, Dallas is kind of giving up some deep balls. 511 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 4: Maybe they'll try it just with you know what you 512 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 4: mentioned with Williams just running vertical, but they just don't 513 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 4: run vertical routes. Everything is inbreaking. Everything is where where 514 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: the ball can get out quick. And you know that's 515 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: that's the issue they're they're they're not going to let 516 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 4: this quarterback get hit. But when they do let him 517 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 4: get hit, it's Sheerley Taylor Decker on the left side, 518 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 4: he's the one that gives up pressures and sacks. And 519 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: then also too, it's Graham Glass now, the center who's 520 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 4: playing backup for Frank Ragnow. Now if Glass now has 521 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 4: to play guard, he will play left guard. If if 522 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,239 Speaker 4: Ragnow plays this week, so then that will be the 523 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: next pressure point, the left side, left tackle and the 524 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: left guard. 525 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 7: We're starting to hear the possibilities that de Ron Bland 526 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: might return in some capacity. 527 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 3: To twenty five plays. I heard. 528 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, so if he's back, and hope maybe that you 529 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 7: get Carson back as well. Talk to me about how 530 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 7: they can against these guys, particularly Saint Brown and Williams. 531 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 7: I think those are the two guys you worry the 532 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 7: most about. We'll get to Sam Laporta in a second 533 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 7: at the tight end position, but as the receivers, those 534 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 7: are two I think you worry about the most. How 535 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 7: does Dallas matchup? 536 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 3: Got thoughts on that one? 537 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think here with with Jamis and Williams specifically, 538 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 8: he's starting to really unload his back and in this season, 539 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 8: I think he's finally starting to find his footing dealt 540 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 8: with the suspension, kind of bounce back from that, and 541 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 8: I think he's comfortable with the offense. Now you pair 542 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 8: him with am and Ross Saint Brown, who in my opinion, 543 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 8: is one of the better route runners in the entire league, 544 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 8: then you have a guy who could stretch the field. Now, 545 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 8: again they haven't been doing that, but he is a 546 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 8: guy that can and. 547 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 2: He has one touchdown on a deep ball this year. 548 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, you definitely got to keep him honest, But with 549 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 8: Jamison Williams. He's got a little bit of physicality off 550 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 8: the line that I think could disrupt either Bland or Carson. 551 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 8: Considering that they're both dealing with or not dealing with, 552 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 8: but coming back from injuries, I think that physicality could 553 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 8: lead to a couple of issues if either of those 554 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 8: guys were to match up. I personally like Bland on 555 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 8: am and Ra a little bit better and digs On 556 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 8: Williams a little bit better. I think that would be 557 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 8: the favorable matchup for the Cowboys if they were to 558 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 8: line up against these guys on any given play. But 559 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 8: I do wonder if they're trotting Bland out in this 560 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 8: limited role, you say, twenty five plays, Brian, then can 561 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 8: those two guys build consistency as the game goes on. 562 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 8: Is it a situation where they throw Bland out until 563 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 8: he hits twenty five snaps or do they rotate Carson 564 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 8: and Bland in. I think that's probably what the solution 565 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 8: will be. And if that's the case, then how can 566 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 8: these guys build a rhythm against a really talented receiver 567 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 8: in Jamison Williams. Because what Jamison Williams is going to 568 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 8: do is he's going to pick up every single tendency 569 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 8: that each of those two guys have, and as they 570 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,920 Speaker 8: come off the field and then come back on, He's 571 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 8: going to attack them whenever they come back on. So 572 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 8: he's a talented receiver. He comes from really a solid 573 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 8: pedigree from his college and high school days. I think 574 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 8: he's a guy you definitely got to be able to 575 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 8: keep honest in this game. He is coming into his 576 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 8: own as an NFL receiver. He is just as deadly 577 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 8: as Am and Row. 578 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 579 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 4: I think he's absolutely right about that, and you can 580 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: throw with their. Tim Patrick, though, too, has made some 581 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 4: places for him. 582 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: Can he come from Denver to Tim Patrick? 583 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 8: He did? You mentioned Sam Will And I look at 584 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 8: this as a situation for a Marris Luifel or Marvin 585 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 8: Overshown to be able to cover. I've been kind of 586 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 8: toying with this idea in the last few the last 587 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 8: couple of weeks, specifically, when do you start rotating Markue's 588 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 8: bell in for Donovan Wilson, especially on passing downs. I 589 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 8: think there's a situation here where you look at it 590 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 8: and if you want to send Marius Luifel on a 591 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 8: third down blitz, which he has that type of ability, 592 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 8: then you need a safety to be able to cover Laporta. 593 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 8: Bell's your guy. Bell's your guy that could do that. 594 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 8: He proved to do that last year. I wonder whenever 595 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 8: there is a situation when Bell comes in on passing 596 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 8: downs and they keep Wilson on the field for running downs, 597 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 8: I think that would be more beneficial for this defense. 598 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: You know what, I wouldn't be opposed to putting Jordan 599 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 4: Lewis on him too. 600 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: Seeing that. 601 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean early in the season Laporta had an 602 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 4: ankle or foot injury and it was causing he wasn't 603 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 4: running routes down the field. 604 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 3: He's back to running routes down the field now. 605 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 4: And I would not be opposed to if I'm going 606 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 4: to get beat by Tim Patrick or somebody like that 607 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 4: playing eleven personnel or whatever, so I'm not good enough 608 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 4: then if I'm getting but if I you know, if 609 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: I had to cover, if I had to play out 610 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: of the slot, you know, I mean, Saint Brown is 611 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 4: a pain in the rear, There's no question about that. 612 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 4: But I would maybe mix it up a little bit 613 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 4: with the coverage between him and Laporta, with Jordan Lewis 614 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 4: and just trying and throw they throw the rhythm off 615 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 4: a little bit by the Lions, like, we can't go 616 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 4: where they're putting. They're putting their one of their best 617 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 4: cover guys on one of our better receivers. And you 618 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 4: know that, you know that Lewis will battle him. You 619 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 4: know he'll stay with him, He'll battle him, He'll make 620 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: it a contesting catches and stuff. Laporta doesn't. I don't 621 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 4: think this guys have dropped a ball this year. By 622 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 4: the way, I was just sicking. I was curious. 623 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,360 Speaker 2: The whole team. 624 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, the their skill guys. I don't think they have 625 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: a drop with their skill guys. I mean, and I 626 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: think that includes the backs. I might be wrong about that, 627 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 4: but I was looking at numbers and I was like, going, 628 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 4: these guys, don't you're gonna spell check me on this. 629 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 8: I'm looking here. That would be crazy. 630 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 4: I think I saw a deal with well, you watch, 631 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 4: if you watch the Seattle game, the guy didn't. 632 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 3: Miss a pass. 633 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was really I don't. 634 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 3: Think they have a drop this. I don't think that 635 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: the receivers have a drop on. 636 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 8: The First thing that popped up is the NFC Championship game. 637 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 8: Last year. They had four costantly drops in the second half, 638 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 8: so maybe that was emphasise this off. Yeah, stat anywhere 639 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 8: working on that. 640 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 4: I think I was looking Yeah, I think I was 641 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 4: looking at on the next on our next gen stuff, 642 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 4: and I was just curious, like, do these guys drop 643 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: the ball? 644 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: Because the quarterback was like. 645 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 4: Eighteen of eighteen in that Seattle game, and I'm like, God, well, 646 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 4: I guess I haven't seen any but uh, but yeah, 647 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: this is It's a I would consider because Laporta is 648 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: is going to be tough to deal with. But you know, 649 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 4: like I say, Jordan Lewis is a tough, tough guy himself. 650 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 4: I mean, I sure consider it. 651 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 7: You know, take me back to last year when these 652 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 7: two teams matched up. It seems, if my memory serves 653 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 7: me correct, Sam Laporta didn't really have It wasn't until 654 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 7: closer to the end of the game that he really 655 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 7: got going and then he had some big plays for them. 656 00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 2: Is that how you guys remember it? 657 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 7: And and how did Dallas necessary Do you remember how 658 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 7: maybe Dallas approached that last year with regards to Laporter. 659 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 8: You mentioned just whenever he was able to kind of 660 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 8: find his rhythm in that game. 661 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm saying I'm saying it seemed like most of 662 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 7: the game he wasn't really making big plays on Dallas. 663 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 7: Towards the end of the game, I think he made 664 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 7: a couple of big plays on them. But that being said, 665 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 7: I was just wondering if Dallas even last year did 666 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 7: they consider using Jordan Lewis. Was Jordan Lewis a part 667 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 7: of the equation on how you how you take care 668 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 7: of Sam Wilson. 669 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 8: I believe he was. I can't recall specifically, but I 670 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 8: will mention just in general what I think worked against 671 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 8: Detroit last year and the referees eligibility for sure, Skipper. 672 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 7: I think somebody, oh Skipper was losing his mind, so 673 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 7: he was part. 674 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 8: Of all that he won the only one. Dan Campbell 675 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 8: was about to come on. 676 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 677 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 8: I think what worked in that game last year, that 678 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 8: was a game that I expected them to lose by 679 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 8: two scores. I think what worked for them in that 680 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 8: game is they matched Detroit physicality and it blew my 681 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 8: mind because you didn't see it the rest of the 682 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 8: season or before that, And I think that's very similar 683 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 8: to what they had to do in this game. You know, 684 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 8: I talked about this team needing to be tough, and 685 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 8: I think if they can match the physicality of a 686 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 8: Detroit Lions team, of a Detroit Lions tight end like 687 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 8: Sam Laporta, who does play physically, especially at the point 688 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 8: of attack and especially at the catch point as well, 689 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 8: you have to be able to line up with him 690 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 8: and throw a hand on. 691 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: Give me some examples of that. 692 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 7: When you say they matched their physicality, tell me some 693 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 7: things that stood out to you, some specific things that 694 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 7: stood out to you where you were like, this is 695 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 7: what I'm this is what you need to see from 696 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 7: this team from the standpoint of the physicality. 697 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, more so trench work, because that was where I 698 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 8: expected them to just get overwhelmed last year. But you 699 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 8: look at de Moont Clark, that was a game that 700 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 8: I really appreciated from him last season. I mean, dwonk Clark. 701 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 8: It looks like he's just a guy you're not going 702 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 8: to see on the defensive side too much for the 703 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 8: rest of the year with the linebackers that they have 704 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 8: on the team right now and kind of how that 705 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 8: snap share has been going around. But if we're talking 706 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 8: about last year's game, look at the front, look at 707 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 8: de Marcus Lawrence. I mean, he was really active in 708 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 8: the run game. So it's really tough that you don't 709 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 8: have him in this game with these two running backs, 710 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 8: specifically with Jamiir Gibbs, because DeMarcus Lawrence does such a 711 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 8: good job against outside zone type running backs. That is 712 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 8: what Jamiro Gibbs is. I will say, though, he is 713 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 8: starting to find his rhythm between the tackles. Finally, I 714 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 8: think once he really does find his stride there, he's 715 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 8: going to be a top three running back in the league. 716 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 8: I firmly believe that. But David Montgomery, I mean, he's 717 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 8: a guy you have to respect too when it comes 718 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 8: to physicality. He's a guy that will take it, go 719 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 8: down the hole and he'll lay a pop on you. 720 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 8: And I think with guys like Eric Kendricks Demarvin Overshow 721 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 8: shown so much physicality these first few weeks, those are 722 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 8: gonna have to be guys that phil run lanes and 723 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 8: lay a pop on these guys and make them rotate 724 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 8: off the field for a couple of plays, because you 725 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 8: saw that happen last year. And then as they're working 726 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 8: down the field on drives, guys are having to rotate 727 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 8: out and that's offensively. Defensively, you don't really see that 728 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 8: with Detroit in most games, unless they do play a 729 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 8: Tampa Bay who can match their physicality with guys like 730 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 8: Tristan Wurf's up front. I think he did such a 731 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 8: good job. Graham Barton as well. But I think whenever 732 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 8: you look at the Cowboys case, specifically, you want Tyler 733 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 8: Smith to get after it and get nasty. You want 734 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 8: Cooper bb to do that as well. Well, it's gonna 735 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 8: be really imperative in this game. 736 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 7: All Right, we're gonna take our final break, we'll come back. 737 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 7: I got some names on the Cowboys defense, and I 738 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 7: want to get some evaluations from you guys on how 739 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 7: you think they've performed in this last game. A lot 740 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 7: of them this last game they played more than they've 741 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 7: played all season. So I want to figure out how 742 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 7: you guys feel like they played in that game and 743 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 7: then project what you think that might mean for this 744 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 7: week's game. 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That sounds more fake. 815 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know anyway. 816 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 7: Welcome back, final segment of the break laught mess WBC 817 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 7: Mortgage Studios. 818 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: At the Star. 819 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 7: Okay, so have some names for you guys, these are 820 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 7: all defensive players. Oh yeah, real quick, real quick. 821 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I went back and looked at Sam laport by 822 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 4: the nearest defender. In last year's game, Marquis Spell carried 823 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 4: in for two snaps, two targets, two receptions thirty two yards. 824 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 4: Javon Curse had him for three, three targets, three receptions. 825 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 4: So against your safeties, he was he was five for five. 826 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 8: Well, let's make a distinctly bell as a linebacker. 827 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they called him a taftyar. 828 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 4: Donovan Wilson had him for three and he only had 829 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 4: one reception for fifteen yards. Shooting well, Clark was one 830 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 4: for one. He had eight yards on that catch. Stefan Gilmore, 831 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 4: oh for two. Gilmore took put a corner on it. 832 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: Put a corner. How about this Bland? 833 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: Oh for one? 834 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: There you go, and they put the corners on him. 835 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 3: He went oh for three. 836 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 8: Something that they do like to do with little Porta 837 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 8: is they like to isolate him on one side of 838 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,399 Speaker 8: the ball. But they'll like put him in the slot. Yeah, 839 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 8: and they'll have like three receivers to left right. They'll 840 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 8: isolate him on the side with like a Gilmour or 841 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 8: a bland type of corner I'm talking about. Like with 842 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 8: other teams, he's able to beat them a little bit better. Yeah, 843 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,520 Speaker 8: because he has he has some wiggle. 844 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 3: He does. 845 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 4: He's a really talented This is a bunch formation team too. 846 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 4: They'll get you real tight in there and stuff, and 847 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 4: so gotta be ready for that. But it looked like 848 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 4: the corners. Actually maybe maybe maybe we're onto something here. 849 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: Maybe that's your answer. 850 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: Maybe I need to tell Mike k Mike listened last 851 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 3: year and they put corners on this dude and they 852 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 3: didn't have a catchy man. 853 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 7: All right, they listen, They listened, Hi, Mike, they listen. 854 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 2: All right, let's let's talk here. I got here's some 855 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 2: names for you. 856 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 7: I've got some defensive players, and I want you guys 857 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 7: to tell me, give me some evaluations on what you 858 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 7: saw from this last game and what you project that 859 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 7: to be going forward. Let's start first with Carl Lawson defenceman. 860 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 8: I think when you look at his h his ability 861 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 8: to pass the rush or past the past the rusher, 862 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 8: rush the passer. He does passed the rusher a lot. 863 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 8: He does, he does, he does, he does. But I think, uh, 864 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 8: I think there is an ability that he can kind 865 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 8: of unlock a little bit more, and it may just 866 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 8: be a product of him missing the majority of camp, 867 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 8: coming in late and then you know, obviously not really 868 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 8: finding his footing just yet. But I think there is 869 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 8: another level that he could take. He's on the active 870 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 8: roster now. I would assume with the with the way 871 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 8: he's been playing overall, then there's probably a way to 872 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 8: keep him on the active roster even when Parsons and 873 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 8: Lawrence come back. Yeah, but I think overall, you're wanting 874 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 8: a little bit more from Lawson. I think when I 875 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 8: look at all three of these defensive ends in general, 876 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 8: I don't want to get to ahead of ahead of 877 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 8: ahead of you. Here, Golston's been the one that I've appreciated. 878 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,240 Speaker 3: We'll get Like what you said, Agent. 879 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 5: I mean the way he watched him last game, Golston, 880 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 5: I mean the way he played and the way he 881 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 5: just is so aggressive and powerful and just goes for it. 882 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 8: Uh, He's great. 883 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 5: I love him, Lawson. It's just kind of like with 884 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 5: the rest of everybody else in that position, you just 885 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 5: want to see more from him. But I think for 886 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 5: what is being asked, given the scenario that he's being 887 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 5: placed in he's been okay. Like he I see him 888 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 5: more of like your band aid type of guy that 889 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 5: he serves as a body and a presence that is 890 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 5: there in the absence of these other guys that are 891 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 5: not being there right now due to injury. 892 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's band Aid's like an amputation that we're trying to. 893 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: The throat. 894 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 4: You feel that way when position it feels it feels 895 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 4: like it feels like I've lost my arm and it's 896 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 4: just blood is and like, here's Carl Lawson. 897 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 3: Standing there going he's trying to as blood's scoring. Even 898 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 3: a tournique, it ain't working. This is some blood loss. 899 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 3: The thing with loss in the next we've talked about. 900 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 4: The schedule ahead, there's the you know, this game forty 901 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 4: nine ers, it's not going to get easier, I mean, 902 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 4: and the games that he's going to have to play, 903 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 4: he's going to have to. If you can, somehow, some 904 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 4: way get Carl lost into five years ago, that would 905 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 4: be awesome. You're probably not going to get that, But 906 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 4: don't be the guy that's a liability out there. You know, 907 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 4: if you can play the run, if you get off 908 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 4: a block, if you get occasional pressure too, I'm not 909 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 4: asking to get two three sacks a game or anything 910 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 4: like that. I'm just asking you come up with a 911 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 4: pressure to play some run defense. Don't jump off sides 912 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 4: when it's third down and they throw the ball and 913 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 4: you intercepted and now you're now you know they get 914 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 4: a free play. You know, play with some discipline, be 915 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,279 Speaker 4: a veteran, be a leader, do what you have to 916 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 4: do to keep your job on the fifty three when 917 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 4: everybody starts to come back. 918 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 8: I will say his first two elevations that he had 919 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 8: ahead of the Pittsburgh game, you saw him trying to 920 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 8: play a little bit more of that hero ball. And 921 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 8: when that was mentioned in the locker room, he wasn't 922 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 8: the first guy that I thought, But when I went 923 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,040 Speaker 8: back on tape, he was one of the guys that 924 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 8: you could probably look at on a few plays and 925 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 8: be like, Okay, he's trying to do a little bit 926 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 8: too much, maybe not knowing what's going on. SI man, 927 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 8: he's leaving some guys out to dry, especially in the 928 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 8: second level. You didn't see that as much at Pittsburgh. 929 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 8: He's really starting to play with the unit. Now, well 930 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 8: he's got to figure it out as well. I mean 931 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 8: from locker room interactions to just kind of seeing them 932 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 8: when I was with you guys just around the building 933 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 8: and whatnot. He didn't really talk to anybody for a 934 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 8: long time while he was here. After the game in Pittsburgh, him, 935 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 8: Chauncey GOLs and tyres Wee, they were inseparable and they 936 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,880 Speaker 8: were in the locker room. They were chopping it up. 937 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 8: They were laughing about how Carlawston somehow got attributed with 938 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 8: the half sack. They were like, you didn't deserve that, 939 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 8: but they were laughing back and forth about it. It 940 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 8: was the first time I've seen Carlawston really integrate with 941 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 8: any of these guys since he's been here. I think 942 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 8: that's you talk about locker room stuff. That is big, 943 00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 8: especially with those guys right now, because those three guys 944 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 8: really have to come together and they can't. They can't 945 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 8: isolate either one. They can't try to play hero ball. 946 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 8: They have to play together as a unit or it 947 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 8: will not work until they get Parsons and Lawrence back. 948 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,919 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll give my GELTT shout out to my guy 949 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 7: Alex Lily on Sounds of the Sideline, same thing he 950 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 7: captured them on the. 951 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 2: Sideline talking about that. Yeah, he sent it out. 952 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 7: We sent it out this morning. But it was a good, 953 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 7: good video as usual. But they were talking about the 954 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 7: same thing at that time and kind of joking around 955 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 7: like I don't know half sack. I don't know he 956 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 7: was already down whatever. 957 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was good. 958 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 8: It was that Carlawston ended up did getting the half 959 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 8: sack and they're like, oh whatever, Yeah it was. 960 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 2: But it's true though. 961 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 7: I mean, I think I think a lot of times 962 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 7: when you go to a new teams people don't necessarily 963 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,759 Speaker 7: think about that integrating into a locker room with fifty 964 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,439 Speaker 7: three guys when you're from from outside and these guys 965 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 7: have been around each other, they know each other, a 966 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 7: lot of them been around each other for years. 967 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 8: He didn't know anybody. 968 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, sometimes breaking into that can be a little difficult, 969 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 7: especially if you're not playing. And so I do think 970 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 7: him actually playing on the field gives them that that 971 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 7: opportunity to bond. And you talked about the three guys 972 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 7: that primarily were playing defensive end for you last weekend, 973 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 7: and that that becomes a bonding point. You go through 974 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 7: adversity with somebody, that becomes a bonding point. So hopefully 975 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 7: that that continues and their chemistry continues to grow. 976 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 2: As a part of that as well. 977 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 7: Talk to me about Mazzie Smith. What you guys see 978 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 7: from Ozzie Smith last week, right. 979 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 3: It was much. I think he was better against the Giants. 980 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 4: I still feel like, though the effort is really good, 981 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 4: his pad level gets him in trouble at times. And 982 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 4: it's not I don't think it's because of conditioning and 983 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 4: things like that. I think he just forgets to play 984 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 4: with ben de knees and fire off the ball and 985 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 4: control blockers. Did a great job against the Giants doing that. 986 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 4: Played low, played square, played where he I mean this 987 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 4: one he it wasn't getting late, it was just he 988 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 4: gets too high at times. He gets a little he 989 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 4: gets in and instead of staying down, he plays up 990 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 4: and then it allows to catch him. And you know, 991 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 4: here was a team that was not going to get 992 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 4: any blockers up on the second level. So he was 993 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 4: fighting double team blocks really the whole day. But he 994 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 4: was too high a couple of different times. He got 995 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 4: to play a better knee bend, got to do a 996 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 4: better job of getting rid of guys and playing with power. 997 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 4: He'll have his hands full this weekend with you now, 998 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 4: if Glass now is the center. That's a little bit 999 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 4: different story. Rag now will snatch you and you know 1000 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 4: you've got to be ready for that. But he's got 1001 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 4: to play with better bend at knees in these games. 1002 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 8: I agree with your point on him being better versus 1003 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,120 Speaker 8: the Giants. Again, that was a career game for him. 1004 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 8: I think something that helped him against Pittsburgh that I 1005 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 8: think could be a trend as you look forward into 1006 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 8: the season, Limball Joseph helped him out a lot more. 1007 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 8: And the since that he rotated on the field, he 1008 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 8: was pushing some guys on their butt and Limball Joseph 1009 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 8: had his best game is now with Cowboys like he 1010 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 8: was in shape. 1011 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,400 Speaker 7: But my hope is that now that's where he's getting 1012 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:57,960 Speaker 7: like he's a good player. We all thought he was 1013 00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 7: a good player when they signed him. He just had 1014 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 7: to get there because he didn't do training camp. 1015 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,759 Speaker 8: And I think when you look at Mazzie Smith's case, 1016 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,440 Speaker 8: whenever you get put on your butt and then you 1017 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 8: have a really athletic type of one tech because he's 1018 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 8: he's not an athletic person, but when you factor in 1019 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 8: that he is what he is at nose tackle, he 1020 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 8: is an athletic being and whenever you have to account 1021 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 8: for that after getting put on your butt, it's difficult. 1022 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 8: And you saw some of those snaps where he would 1023 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 8: rotate on for the first couple of snaps and he 1024 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 8: would be able to beat some guys. He would able 1025 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 8: to be able to slide over, you know, reach around 1026 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 8: and be able to grab some running lanes. I think 1027 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,319 Speaker 8: that that was really big limbal Joseph being able whenever 1028 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 8: he did rotate in, it wasn't pedestrian work, it was 1029 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 8: it was Mazzie Smith was able to rotate back in 1030 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,759 Speaker 8: with these guys still reeling, that really hasn't been the 1031 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:40,839 Speaker 8: case these first four weeks. 1032 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 5: Right well, I think, why am I this way? I 1033 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 5: don't understand, but I I think with him, my bar 1034 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 5: is set so low that right now it's not right 1035 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,800 Speaker 5: now like I feel positive about him, you know, like 1036 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 5: I'm like, Okay, that's two games in a row where 1037 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 5: he's showing progress. And more importantly for me, this thing, 1038 00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 5: the mental part of it, where he's willing to keep 1039 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 5: fighting and he's willing to stay in there because we 1040 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 5: know how last year was and we talked about this 1041 00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 5: over and over during training camp, just kind of the 1042 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 5: the verbal beat down that he was receiving from his coach, 1043 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 5: and that can really mess you up mentally, and you 1044 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,399 Speaker 5: don't know, like you know, A'm I even made out 1045 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 5: for this. It can mess you up in that way. 1046 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 5: But I like his tenacity and wanting to just keep fighting, 1047 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,920 Speaker 5: and just now you're trying to get a little bit 1048 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 5: more of consistency from him. Is not fully there, but 1049 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 5: you're starting to see moments of it where it's positive 1050 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:49,320 Speaker 5: plays here and there. Yeah, exactly, so imp but again 1051 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 5: my virus said, like all the way down here, but 1052 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 5: he so I'm feeling okay with him obviously year two. 1053 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 5: For a guy like that where you picked him in 1054 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 5: the draft, you want to see a lot more from him, 1055 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 5: but hopefully he'll get there. 1056 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,280 Speaker 8: I had an off the record conversation with Jonathan Hankins 1057 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 8: in the locker room last year, and I won't share 1058 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,399 Speaker 8: anything from that conversation because it was off the record, 1059 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 8: but one could because he was when people do that, 1060 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,040 Speaker 8: because it was a point out, some point that he 1061 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,240 Speaker 8: made that is always stuck in my head with Mazzie Smith, 1062 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 8: and if if I didn't have this point in my head, 1063 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 8: I probably would have gave up completely on Mozzie Smith 1064 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 8: after last season, and after a couple of weeks in 1065 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 8: training camp too, because I just didn't see it even 1066 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,600 Speaker 8: after we were an Oxnard for a little bit, but 1067 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 8: he said, He's like, hey, I respect you, but the 1068 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 8: nose tackle position, no one really understands how hard it 1069 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 8: is to come into this league and play nose tackle 1070 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 8: early in your career and succeed at it. He's like, 1071 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,399 Speaker 8: there's not a lot of guys that do that. Aaron 1072 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 8: Donald's done that. There's been a slow handful. He's like, 1073 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 8: go back and look at me. When I was first 1074 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 8: starting my first two three years, it was the worst 1075 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 8: football played in my career, including college. And then he 1076 00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 8: we look up and he's fourteen years in a league 1077 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 8: or however long it's been. So I've always factored that 1078 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 8: in because he's right, I don't know what it takes 1079 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 8: to be able to play at the nose tackle position, 1080 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 8: and so I've kind of factor that in. And now 1081 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 8: as he's starting to put these good games together, that 1082 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 8: conversation is really starting to key back into my brain 1083 00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,360 Speaker 8: like he may have been onto something there and it 1084 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 8: may may be coming along a little bit quicker for 1085 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 8: Mazie than it did for Handkins. And if that's the case, 1086 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 8: that's a beautiful scenario for the Cowboys. 1087 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 7: That's a great story because it does it does give 1088 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 7: you some perspective from someone who has that to do it. 1089 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 7: And now that we look at him, we say he's 1090 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 7: been a he's had a really good career for defensive 1091 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 7: tackle in the NFL one technique and so, uh yeah, 1092 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 7: that's that's good perspective. 1093 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 2: All right, Appreciate you guys. You know, we'll be back tomorrow. 1094 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 7: We'll drive dive into the defense for the Detroit Lions 1095 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 7: versus the Cowboys offense till then for Nick Carris. 1096 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 2: Brian brought us in Abergarci. 1097 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,959 Speaker 7: I'm Derek Eagleton has been The Break Live on Dallas 1098 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 7: Cowboys dot Com Radio. 1099 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 10: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 1100 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 10: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.