1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? Welcome to move the sticks DJ, Buck 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: with you, Buck? What's going on? Happy New Year man? 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Happy New Year, DJ. Is a great time. Obviously, 5 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: you start a new year, you have resolutions if you're 6 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,080 Speaker 2: a resolutions person, but you try to be better in 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five than you were in twenty twenty four. 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: And there are a lot of football teams college and 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: pro that will also have resolutions to be much better 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: next season than they were this season. 11 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, some of those teams are going to have new leadership, 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: you know, be it on the field coaching wise, quarterback 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: play could be swapped out, as well as even a 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: few general managers that could be swapped out. We'll have 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: all that for you next week as we get some 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: reaction to how things finish up, and I'm sure change 17 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: season will begin and we'll break that all down right here. 18 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: We're also going to on this episode, Buck dig into 19 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: you know, the matchup of the week. I guess the 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: game of the week, which was pretty obvious with the 21 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Lions and the Vikings. Will break that game down, but 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,319 Speaker 1: I think we need to start here with the college 23 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: stuff we've got. As we're recording this, three of the 24 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: four games have been played. We're still waiting on Georgia 25 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: and Notre Dame, which is gonna kick off in just 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: a few hours from when we're recording. Right now, we 27 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: have three in the books, the three teams with the buys. 28 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: They can throw another buy on there, Buck Gone. 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: You know, it's funny that they played out, and I 30 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: tweeted it out, but I remember hearing your conversation. Nick 31 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 2: Saban always talked about how tough it was for him 32 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: to get his teams ready to play in bowl games 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: and ready to play in these playoff things, whether it's 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 2: the BCS version or whatever, because typically, he said that 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 2: as a coach, your anxiety makes you end up putting 36 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 2: too much in. You start trying to prepare for the 37 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 2: game way too far in advance, and what you do 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: is you have a lot of kids that are look 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: paralysis by analysis kind of takes over. He said he 40 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: learned late, and even Jim Harbour said this last year 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: they learned less is more when it came to the 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: playoff prep. So if we talked about normally a game week, 43 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 2: like you're kind of practicing hard leading up to the 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: game on Saturday, and then you go through it. But 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: when you have multiple weeks, sometimes people were out for 46 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: We're gonna have two hard weeks of practice to get 47 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: super ready and prepared, and it messes it up. And 48 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 2: I saw with Michigan last year with Harbaugh and in 49 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,119 Speaker 2: the past with Saban, they would do three days during 50 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: that first week of just hey, let's just do fundamentals conditioning, 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 2: kind of get to it, and then we have a 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: regular week leading up to the game week, and that 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 2: may be better. I think as we get into these playoffs, 54 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: these teams are kind of learning how to navigate the field. 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 2: I think they'll start taking the bye week maybe a 56 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: little differently in the process. Because every team that had 57 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: to buy, boy, they splut it out the gate. It 58 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 2: was a quarter and a half into the game before 59 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: we saw the team that earned a buy show up like, oh, 60 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: welcome to the party. 61 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's get to those games. Then State Boise State, 62 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: and that's kind of how that one started off in 63 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: that ballgame. And first of all, we'll get to the 64 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: we'll get to asking Jenny in a second, but just 65 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: what you saw from from Drew Aller. On the Penn 66 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: State side of things, there is a lot of chatter 67 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: not look I saw. I think Dan Brugler posted something. 68 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of the same chatter out there, 69 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: which is this is not concrete that he's going back 70 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: to Penn State. Like if he goes on a little 71 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: bit of a run here, there's an opportunity with this 72 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 1: quarterback class that he could jump in into this current draft. 73 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: So I believe that's one hundred percent accurate that there's 74 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: a chance that could happen. So with that in mind, 75 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: what have you seen from him in that ballgame as 76 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: they as they took down the feisty Boise State Broncos. 77 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, no, you know, the big conversation coming into 78 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: the game would be pen would Penn State be able 79 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: to score enough points to be able to do it? 80 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 2: Would they have enough explosive plays in those things? And 81 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 2: so Alla made enough plays in the passing game for 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: this team to get going. But it really came down 83 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: to Penn State being Penn State in terms of being 84 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: able to the football and pose their will. They were bigger, stronger, 85 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: more physical than Boise and to me that played out 86 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: and if not for some turnovers where they allowed Boise 87 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: to creep back in. It felt like there were different 88 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: weight classes in the boxing ring, and I feel like 89 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: that's kind of been a common theme that we've seen 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 2: throughout the first round of the playoffs and then in 91 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: the quarters. They're different levels to being a title contender. 92 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: They're different levels to being a playoff team. And I 93 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: tweeted out there, hey man, that's talent over tactics. Like 94 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: the teams with the most talent are the ones that 95 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 2: advancing through the gauntlet. And it's something that I heard. 96 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 2: I think Rick Neuhaus was talking. He was saying, it's 97 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: not the starters that matter. The nil and the collectives 98 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: and the resources that you have. They provide you with 99 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: the depth that you can throw waves of blue chip 100 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 2: players at the opponent as opposed to just having the 101 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: front line. And when the front line wears down, there's 102 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,359 Speaker 2: a huge drop off. Betwe to ones and Tuesday have 103 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 2: to go into the field. 104 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I look. I know some people were looking at 105 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: it on the other side and saying, oh, and I 106 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: even posted some of the people are like, well, Ash 107 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: and gent, Hey, this is what happens when you're not 108 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: playing against you know, Mountain West competition and blah blah blah. 109 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: And I'm like, look, and I know Oregon then went 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: on to get smoked by Ohio State, so maybe it 111 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: did end up being as good as a point. But 112 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: I'm like, tore up Oregon when he had the opportunity 113 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: Washington State, like the better teams on their schedule, he 114 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: was fine. And this game, look, some of it came late, 115 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: he still got one hundred yards. He had uncharacteristically put 116 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: the ball on the ground. But I've buck I've done him, 117 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: I've watched him. I grew up in San Diego, San 118 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: Diego State, the Mountain West team, and he's not and 119 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: I'm not comparing to Marshall Faulks. But what I'm just 120 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: saying this whole thought of like you only can be 121 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: a great player if you come from a premier program, 122 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: Like that's just stupid. Like what are we talking about? Man, 123 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: He's he's going to be a very good pro. He 124 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: translates very well. 125 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he translates very well. In fact, did j I 126 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 2: don't know who your comparison was, but when I look 127 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: at him, he reminded me a lot of Josh Jacobs. 128 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: When Josh Niver out of Alabama. I feel like he 129 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: kind of has that physicality toughness to his game. He 130 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: can catch the ball out the backfield. He has a 131 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 2: ridiculous jump cut. And if you're talking about someone to 132 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: play in a GAPS game, I don't know if they've run. 133 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody runs the GTGH counter better 134 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: than Gent. He can do it where it's either same 135 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: side counter, across the face counter, however you want to 136 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 2: see it. He understands how to read it. I felt like, 137 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: and in these games you have to be careful. I 138 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: felt like maybe he was trying to do too much. 139 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 2: He understood the stage, he understood that everyone is watching. 140 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 2: I kind of want to prove. And I felt like 141 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: sometimes in these games, when you're trying too hard, the 142 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 2: bad stuff happens as opposed to just kind of settling 143 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 2: in and playing your game. To me, that's because we've 144 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: never seen them fumble like that, And it wasn't like 145 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: these were like wicked hits or things. And to me, 146 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 2: it just felt like in doing too much, you lose 147 00:06:57,960 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: a little bit of your focus in your concentration. 148 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: See, I felt like I was watching, uh like a 149 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: rerun of you remember the old show Walker Texas Ranger 150 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: with Yeah, with Chuck Norris or whatever like you like. 151 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: It was one of those fight scenes where it's like, Okay, 152 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: you fight one guy, then there's another guy. You gotta 153 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: fight him. I fight over. Where's the next guy? I 154 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: gotta fight him? He bounce off a tackle spin off, 155 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: there's five more guys coming, Like they're all all these 156 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: unblocked defenders draped all over him. I don't worry about him. 157 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: He's gonna be He's gonna be a really good pro 158 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: penn state wise. Abdul Carter getting hurt though, to me, 159 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: forecasting into the future, that's one to keep an eye 160 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: on because he is a big, big piece. 161 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big piece of the puzzle because he's 162 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 2: a one man pass ruge. Like his speed, explosiveness, all 163 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 2: of the athleticism that he brings to the table. Like, uh, 164 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: they missed that. But I will say and we've said it, 165 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: and we said every year when we would go to 166 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: the combine, day just looks different, right, Like they just 167 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: look like like athletically, man, they just look different. And 168 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 2: then you know you have Tom Allen. They're playing more 169 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 2: of a zone base coverage than they were before, like 170 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: their eyes on the ball. You talked about flying to 171 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 2: the ball. Part of the reason why Gent couldn't get going, man, 172 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: they had all eyes on him. They were flying to 173 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: the ball, playing at another pace. And the thing about 174 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: Penn State, they're gonna run the football, they're gonna stop 175 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: the run. And so if they can get you into 176 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: that one dimensional, one dimensional approach, yeah you're going to 177 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: get yards. But they're able to dictate the terms and 178 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 2: that is what was able to happen against Boise. It 179 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: gets a little tougher in the next round, but yeah, 180 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 2: their recipe, their formula, their talent. They you believe that 181 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: they can be a team they can go to the 182 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 2: final game. 183 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's a team that it's always had 184 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: kind of ability. And I think of Aler going back 185 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: to him that we've always talked about the postseason quarterback 186 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: play consistencies irrelevant. I don't care. You don't have to 187 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: do it for seventeen weeks. Can you have a very 188 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: high ceiling and hit that ceiling for three to four weeks? 189 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: You win a championship with that? Like it's the regular 190 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: seasons about the floor. The postseason is about the ceiling. 191 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: And with Drew Aller. I feel like his ceiling is 192 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: very high. If he could play at that level, he 193 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: could have a Flacco type run here for the next 194 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: couple of games. 195 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 2: It's very reminiscent of some of the conversations that we 196 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: would have about JJ McCarthy last year for Michigan. Just 197 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 2: because you don't see it consistently doesn't mean that he's 198 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 2: incapable of doing it. They just haven't asked him to 199 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: do it because that's not necessarily their recipe for winning. 200 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: But in these moments where you need him to make 201 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: a handful of throws against boys, he made a handful 202 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: of throws. You're like, oh, it might be in there. 203 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: He might have it in he might have that club 204 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: in his back. 205 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: There are some drops too, uncharacteristically by Warren, Like he 206 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: doesn't really drop the ball. We had a couple of 207 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: seam balls he didn't. 208 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm gonna say this right because in looking 209 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: at the games, like in the quarters, it's one of 210 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: the things that we talked about and I'm like, you 211 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: can't get knocked out by the right hand, And I'm 212 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: looking at these games and I'm like, hey man, we 213 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 2: didn't know that Warren. We didn't know that Warren was 214 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 2: going to be the guys the first quarter. I'm looking 215 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: at Warren streaking yourself. I'm like, here's there's nowhere in 216 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 2: the game plan where we're like, hey, you know what, 217 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: you probably don't want forty four to get. 218 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: That was what I do you remember when this conversation started, 219 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: because it started with my Chargers frustration calling Charger games 220 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: and I would come on our show every week and go, 221 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: buck got knocked out by the right hand again, agains. 222 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: Knocked out by right more than you know. And I'm 223 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: and I'm sitting there, I'm watching that, and I'm watching 224 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: the Oregon game, and I'm like, Okay, we had to 225 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: know that Smith is the guy. We knew that, right Like, 226 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: we can't and we're gonna let him go Buckers the 227 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: first quarter. We gonna just let him get going. 228 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't know they needed you coaching the They needed 229 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 1: you coaching the flag football team. 230 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: You don't don't let the best player, like, just don't 231 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: let the best player go if somebody else goes. And 232 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: I know some of the teams have multiple players. Man, 233 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 2: you can't let the guy who's on the marquee have 234 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 2: a big game, Game of the Year. 235 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's get into that game. Then. I think 236 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: we both were thinking or I thought Oregon was gonna 237 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: win the game. I don't think either one of us 238 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: thought they would go a boat race the other way. 239 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 1: But I mean, they didn't even look like they belong 240 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: on the same field. And the other thing, I one 241 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: of the other points is when you when you play 242 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: against the team, one of the benefits of playing them 243 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: again is you go, you know what, after seeing them 244 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: and feeling them and doing hands on power, I felt, 245 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: you know what, this right tackle, We're gonna give him 246 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: some stuff. And they they bowled the crud out of 247 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: him the entire game. And poor Dylan Gabriel back there, 248 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: he's he's five ten and a half buck. He looked 249 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: he was five to five in the pocket because it 250 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: was just like he's trying to get the ball like 251 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: up and over the top of people. It just even 252 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: his completions. I was like, hot darn, that's a heck 253 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: of a play just to get that thing out of there, man. 254 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: DJ. So there are a couple of things about Ohio State, 255 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 2: and I think Herbstreet made a great point when he 256 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: talked about the defense and it reminded me of the 257 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,599 Speaker 2: team building stuff that we talk about a lot of 258 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 2: times in the NFL in the era of the transfer portal. 259 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 2: So much is made about people bouncing and going all 260 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: over the place. And then they put the graphic up 261 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 2: about Ohio State's defense and the number of fourth and 262 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: fifth year players within the program that they had playing. Yeah, 263 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: we talked about downs and coming over in but he 264 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: is kind of like, as we say, drafting, develop and 265 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: he's the marquee free agent that you put the little 266 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 2: chariot top the Sunday. This team is well constructed because 267 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: they recruited well, they developed and well, and they played 268 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: in a system that they've now understood consistently what the 269 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: responsibilities are, and so they play so fast, they're so physical. 270 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 2: And the final point, I feel like the loss to 271 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: Michigan allowed Ryan Day and chip Kelly to be like, 272 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: hey man, let's quit trying to like out tough everybody. 273 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: Let's go back to it. Because the chip Kelly that 274 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: showed up yesterday, that's the chip Kelly that I remember 275 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: beating the brakes off people in the Pac twelve at Oregon. Yeah. 276 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: No, I'm sitting there watching that going like I feel 277 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: like I watched in the Michigan game. I watched Bryce 278 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: and Deshambo like never took the driver in the bag. 279 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: That's who you are. What are you doing? You gotta 280 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: freaking you hit it further than everybody, Like take that 281 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: thing out of the bag and let's get let's get loose. 282 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: And then this game, it was like right from the 283 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: jump and they were just like oh no, no, no, no, no, 284 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: they are they are taking the driver out and they 285 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: are they are letting it fly. And that's what they 286 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: did the whole game, man, the whole game. 287 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: And they have everything and you know, as much as 288 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 2: we talked about like Smith and they couldn't do it. 289 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 2: But then they hit a seam ball, uh like right 290 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: versus Tim Cat and it was a nice catch. And 291 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: look Howard dropped a dime right there. It was Tim, 292 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 2: but it was still a great catch. And I was like, oh, yeah, 293 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: that's the advantage of having like the best wide receiver 294 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 2: corp in football because now when you start thinking, okay, 295 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: we're gonna lean the safe, we can do some two 296 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 2: different stuff and they're running down, I was like, oh man, 297 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: they got a lot. Oh and now you want to 298 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: play soft to start the pass game. Oh, let's give 299 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: it a trade on Henderson and let him. I mean, 300 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 2: this is the Buckeyes team that everyone talked about all year, 301 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: and we hear coaches always talk about you want to 302 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: play your best football down the stretch. The hiccup to 303 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: Michigan may have kind of like stopped us, but in 304 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: the tournament, the two games that we've seen from Ohio State, 305 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: they're playing their best football. They could be, man, they 306 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: canna be tough to knock out well the others or whatever. 307 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: Like that's what That's what this twelve team playoffs made 308 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: it NFL football, which is you can you you don't 309 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: have to be like perfect and uptight and don't make 310 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: a mistake. It's like, hey we lost, we wet the 311 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: bed against Michigan, no problem, flush it and the NFL 312 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: you see it. Every every great team has a dud, 313 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: has a clunker. They just unfortunately had it against their 314 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: biggest rival, which I'm sure their fan base doesn't love. 315 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: But they got the clunker at their system. The other 316 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: lost to Oregon wasn't a clunker. They were right there, 317 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, lust bar one. Yeah, and then now they've 318 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: just they're free and easy and just talent wise, they 319 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: just have more dudes and everybody in the tournament. You know, 320 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: I was concerned about the quarterback. I didn't know what 321 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: we're going to get out of the quarterback, and I 322 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: didn't look at it even with those cyborgs. He's doing 323 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: his part too now. 324 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: And I will say this like, he's still the X 325 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: fact that he will be the X fact in all 326 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: these games that we talk about as long as they 327 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: remain in the tournament. Can he play at a high level. 328 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 2: He certainly has done it through the first two rounds 329 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: of the playoff. What I will say, now, those were 330 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: conference games that they lost, but there is benefit to 331 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: playing tough games early to kind of get a true 332 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: sense of who you are and where you are. And 333 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: those losses provided a lot of lessons for the teams 334 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 2: to get better. So the loss to Oregon, as you said, 335 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 2: gave them a chance to recalibrate the team when they 336 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 2: played Oregon again. The lost to Michigan might have made 337 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: Ryan Day and Chip Kelly say, hey, look, let's quit 338 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: trying to be something that we're not. Let's lean into 339 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 2: what we are. We're explosive, we're dynamic, and we're super talented. 340 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: Let's get our ball to the best players and let 341 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: them determine whether we win or lose. And through two 342 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: rounds they've done that and it's work. Maybe you need 343 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 2: to play better teams to kind of figure that out 344 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: about who you are and what you are so you 345 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: can have the best version of yourself show up in 346 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: the playoffs. 347 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: Well that's going to lead me to the next game 348 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: that I want to hit on, the third one, and 349 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: again we're recording this before we have the fourth game 350 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: between Notre Dame and Georgia. But one of the things 351 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: I saw somebody sent me on Oregon getting blasted and 352 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: maybe they've been sent me to sew the tweet, but 353 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: was again, I just showed you how soft football is 354 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: on the West Coast, and I'm like, well, hold up, 355 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: I saw Arizona State physically what Texas in the other 356 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: game up front dominated the game. 357 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 358 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: The line is, look at the running yards, look at 359 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the rushing totals in that game between those two teams, 360 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: and look at the pedigree of the alignment on each side, 361 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: Like that shouldn't have gone that way. So I don't 362 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: think you can I'm out of the West Coast, not 363 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: tough thing. I don't know that I'm buying that. I 364 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: thought Ohio State was infinitely more talented. That's what that 365 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: proved out in that ball game. 366 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: Well, I will one believe that when it comes to 367 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: the talent, like the talent is the talent. But then 368 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: you talk about West Coast football being that, where's the 369 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: higher state getting some of their players from the West Coast, 370 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 2: Like you can't talk to me about like the talent 371 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 2: and California Soft and all that. No, Like they're players 372 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: that are out here just like their players and like 373 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: the Southeast and all that other stuff. So I don't 374 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 2: think that was the case. And I will say the 375 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 2: Texas game to me was an eye opener in terms 376 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 2: of Arizona State really going toe to toe with Texas. 377 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: And that's why you have to look beyond the score 378 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 2: because even though Texas was up, Arizona State was very 379 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: much in control of. 380 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: The came moving the ball up and down the field. 381 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 2: Man, they had some epic gafs and miscues, and I 382 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: would say maybe in a way they were almost too 383 00:17:58,119 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: aggressive trying to go for. 384 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: It, like so look at the stat here, Buck, I 385 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: was looking at it on fourth down. So they were 386 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: three of six. They went for it six times, it 387 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: felt like to me, and watching that game was like 388 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: a miscalibration of like, Okay, Texas has got so much 389 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: more than us, that we've got to be We can't 390 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: just be ourselves. We got to go above to close 391 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: the gap. And then they did that at backfired and 392 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden halfter through the game, they 393 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,719 Speaker 1: were like looking around like, well, hold up, they're not 394 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 1: better than us, Like we didn't even need to do that, 395 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: Like we could just play the traditional ballgame against these guys. 396 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: And that's the thing you don't get a do over 397 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But yeah, if they just played their game, 398 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 2: they just stick to the script that they've used to 399 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,239 Speaker 2: win ten or eleven games, like they would have they 400 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: had the game right there to be one. But now 401 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this because as much as we talk 402 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 2: about text's going, it's fourth and thirteen, it's fourth and 403 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 2: thirteen with an opportunity to win it. And this is 404 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: a trick and I'm not second guessing coaching, but if 405 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: you go back and you look at a sequence when 406 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 2: it's fourth and thirteen, they get to the line of 407 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 2: scrimmage and right before they do it. It's either penalty 408 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 2: or they call the time out, and normal mode of thinking, 409 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: whatever you were in, you have to change. So if 410 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: you showed blitz, now you got to play coverage. And 411 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: so they came back and they were doing almost like 412 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: a zero pressure, but it really wasn't. It was like 413 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: assimilated zero pressure because the end on as we're looking 414 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 2: at them, the end on the offensive left, he backs out, 415 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 2: and so they bring a five man pressure and they 416 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 2: get it all muddied up, and now I'm like, oh no, 417 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: this is too much time, and they throw it over 418 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: the top, and it's just one of those things where 419 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 2: I understand you live on the edge, but in that 420 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 2: moment when they kind of kodak you, where they see 421 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,719 Speaker 2: the picture and they take the snapshot, you almost are 422 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: forced to change. You can't give them the same look. 423 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 2: You can't give them the same thing because you have 424 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: to think that Sark went over to the side of like, 425 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: hey man, the pressure's coming. So now we got to 426 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 2: get it out. We got to have some doubt up 427 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: to take advantage of the zero pressure. 428 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: I might ask you on yours. So this is going 429 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: to be a tough one. He's got a decision to 430 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: make once we get through, whenever they get eliminated or 431 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: if they win the national championship, whether he wants to 432 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: go into the portal or whether he wants to go 433 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: into the NFL Draft. Going back to Texas is not 434 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 1: going to be an option because that's going to be 435 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: handed over to Arch Manning for next year. I mean 436 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: that hasn't been said, but I think everybody kind of 437 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,199 Speaker 1: understands that to be the situation. Here's some things in 438 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: quinn Ewers favor that I was thinking about. Number one, 439 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 1: I watched him over the summer. 440 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 2: Buck. 441 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: I liked him off last year. There was I like 442 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: the twitch, the twitch in his feet, He's got twitch 443 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: in his arm. I thought the ball jumped out of 444 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: his hand. I thought he could create a little bit. 445 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: He's athletic. He just need to dial in some of 446 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: the decision making stuff and clean some things up. But 447 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,239 Speaker 1: I like the talent, and obviously you know him from 448 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: the high school days. Like the talent. He's got talent coaching, 449 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, And it don't want to hit you on that, 450 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: but so I start with a couple things in his favor. 451 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: Start with the talent. Second thing from what I was 452 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: told he's got a torn obleak. He's played through. He's 453 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: always plaid through injury. So I'm going to give him 454 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 1: a big time nod for toughness. Also understanding the fact 455 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: as a thrower that is that gotta be miserable trying 456 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: to throw with that, with that injury. Yeah, so that 457 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him credit for that. The third thing, 458 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: and it's not just that throw. I was talking to 459 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: Rossillo about this this morning, but the the collection of 460 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: throws he made in that game. There were some big 461 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: throws to get them in field goal range, one of 462 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: which they missed, as well as some some other throws 463 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: sprinkled in throughout that game. So it looks like he 464 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: maybe he's on his track, and the numbers look good. 465 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: At the end, he has to clutch play to extend 466 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: their season. Maybe he finishes strong. So you got good 467 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: good off the previous year, you know, like encouraging signs, toughness, 468 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: playing injured, finishing strong. There's things too like there about 469 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: quinn Ewers, And I feel like I feel like so 470 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: many people have already they've already like the jury's already 471 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: sent in the verdict on him, Like they just hope 472 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: he's not any good, and I don't. I'm hesitant to 473 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: do that. Man. 474 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so at at his worse, if he ers, he's 475 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 2: still what third or fourth in this quarterback class, right, 476 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 2: he's still the next like. So so whatever order you 477 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: have cam Wards, Shadu Sanders or whatever like, he has 478 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: to be kind of next next guy up, you know. 479 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: So then let's talk about Quinn years and let's talk 480 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: about the exposure that he've had. So we can say 481 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: that Texas has played a pretty aggressive schedule of the 482 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,399 Speaker 2: last two years. So we've seen him play in a 483 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 2: bunch of big Marquee games. We saw him tear up 484 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 2: Alabama last year. We've seen him play big games against 485 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 2: Georgia multiple times. We've seen him play in these. 486 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: I went on the road against Michigan. I know they 487 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: having a great year, but right. 488 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: But then that Michigan team came back and be Alabama 489 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 2: down the stretch to finish pretty solidly, you know when 490 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: you think about it. So now if we evaluate and 491 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 2: we talk about man, we've had an opportunity to see 492 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 2: him playing more Marquee games and probably any other quarterback, 493 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: and we've been able to see him play best on best. 494 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: He's playing against other pros. 495 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: With a big one coming too, right, So. 496 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: Why not look at him and say, Okay, he's played 497 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: a bunch of big games. How is he played in 498 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: those games? Throw out all those other games. Let's look 499 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 2: at his big game playing ability. How did he deal 500 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: in the clutch? I'm gonna say to this DJ, he 501 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 2: was downing up and I had anxiety about him playing 502 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 2: in this game because I was like, man, I don't 503 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: know if all the noise makes you think like man, 504 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 2: I don't know if they can throw it with Quinn 505 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: you or he's he's a turnover machine. He doesn't have it. 506 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 2: And then I'm looking at him make these clutch throws, 507 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 2: and I'm particularly impacted by that last four fro thirteen 508 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 2: games on the line, and he drops a die, then 509 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 2: he comes back next overtime. Sark's like, yeah, we're not 510 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 2: gonna mess around. Let's get to it right now. There 511 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: is something to that, And I mean, I don't know 512 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 2: if he's a let's start him right away next year 513 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: at the NFL level. He has enough talent the pedigree 514 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 2: to right now say and he has to be in 515 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 2: that conversation as a first round I don't care what 516 00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 2: any like in a quarterback class that is down, he 517 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: has to be in the conversation. 518 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: Think about, I'm just going through these games like and 519 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: some of them like the stats, don't you know, don't 520 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: blow you away. But if you're just talking about environments, 521 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: like who is hardened and who is seasoned when you 522 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: look at it. So they go at Michigan when Michigan 523 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: was number ten in the country, defending national champs. He 524 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 1: played really well in that game, three touchdowns, no picks. 525 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: But that's at the big house. That's no joke. You've 526 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: got the you know, Texas Oklahoma, that's always as big 527 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: as it gets from a college football stage. They hammered, 528 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: They hammered Oklahoma. He you know, was an okay game statistically. 529 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: Then you look at the two games against Georgia. You 530 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: look at Texas A and M the first time they've 531 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: played each other in over a decade. Think about the 532 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: Hornet's Nest. You're going in to play at college station 533 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: with one hundred plus thousand people in there, and again 534 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,719 Speaker 1: he was seventeen to twenty eight to eighteen, a touchdown, 535 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: a pick, but you still handled the environment. Then you 536 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 1: go playoff game at home against Clemson. Do that handle 537 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 1: your business there? And then this one you have the 538 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: big plays at the end of the Arizona State and 539 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: now we've got Ohio State coming walking through the door. 540 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: Like I know one thing, the guy's gonna be battle tested. 541 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: And from a physical toughness, okay, he's playing through injury, 542 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: check that box. From a mental toughness, you got the 543 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: most popular quarterback maybe in the history of college football, 544 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: breathing down your neck and you've held him off and 545 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: you're still and you're still alive. Here, he's not perfect. 546 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, oh, he needs to be a top 547 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: five pick. I'm just saying there's there's some there's some 548 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: ingredients here that are intriguing to me. 549 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so let's talk about a conversation. We just use 550 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: those three names, cam Ward, Shudur Sanders, and Queen Ewers. 551 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: We can talk about Shuder. Sanders was a four star 552 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 2: coming out of high school. He's had a lot of 553 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 2: hype and spotlight on him that he had to into 554 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: a fersa Jackson State in Colorado. So you feel good 555 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: about as a franchise quarterback having to handle the pressure 556 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: that comes along with that clin Ewers was the badly 557 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: hooed guy in the recruiting class, like he has been. 558 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: They cast me out. Remember, didn't play his final year 559 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: of high school, goes to Ohio State, doesn't really play there, 560 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,239 Speaker 2: so you haven't really seen him play. He had this 561 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: gap and his playing where he had to kind of 562 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: shake the rust off and then play what two seasons 563 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: at Texas, you know, to kind of get it going. 564 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: I will say that from a mentality and a physical 565 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: tool standpoint, he's everything that you look for because mentally 566 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: he's tough enough to not only fendof arch manning, but 567 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: to handle the pressure of being the guy like he's 568 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 2: QB one and he's had to be that. I think sometimes, 569 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: like even though we say that we love underdogs in 570 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: the story, sometimes I like to see the hero who 571 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: was celebrated as the hero do heroic stuff. And so 572 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 2: as he's going through the playoffs, to me, I think 573 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: he has an opportunity to kind of earn some extra 574 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 2: currency in terms of being a guy that can be 575 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 2: the franchise quarterback in the league, because that's what he 576 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: was expected to do and he's doing it. 577 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: And you're gonna hear though I'm telling you it feels 578 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: and he didn't have the year that bon Nicks had, 579 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: but it feels somewhat reminiscent to bone Nicks in that 580 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: I think people form their opinion on him very early 581 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: and they're not going to budge off of it, and 582 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: they might end up being wrong because of it is 583 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: my that's my two cents there. But he's he's going 584 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: to be a fascinating one to follow, and we'll see. 585 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he goes in the port. I would think you 586 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: look at somebody's market programs who don't necessarily have their 587 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: guy for next year. I don't know if he go 588 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 1: back to Ohio State, I don't know if he can. 589 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Can he do that? I don't know? Double dip, Yeah, 590 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: come on back over a little Hio State sandwich with 591 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: a little Texas in there. 592 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 2: Crazy right, hey, But in Ohio we seen that before 593 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: Lebron Ron the Cavs Miami. 594 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: I'm coming home. 595 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm coming home. 596 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: That video social post probably hilarious, man, be absolutely hilarious. 597 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. We come back. We will. 598 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 1: We'll touch on the game of the week in the 599 00:27:58,800 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: NFL right after this. 600 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: It's time for a Game of the Week presented by 601 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 2: DraftKings Sportsbook. This week it's the Minnesota Vikings at the 602 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. To spread as minus two and a half 603 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: favoring the Lions. The over under is fifty six and 604 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 2: a half. Dj We is rare that we talk about 605 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: a loser leave town match, but here we are talking 606 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 2: about two fourteen win teams. The winner is going to 607 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: get the number one seed. The losers constellation is, Oh, 608 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: by the way, you're the road team, you're number five 609 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, and you gotta play next week. So 610 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: it's a tough game and you go all out, and 611 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: so this is gonna be one where you're gonna have 612 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 2: to really manage the emotions during the game and immediately 613 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: after the game to reset and be ready to play 614 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: the first round of the playoffs. 615 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: It's the first playoff game, you know, quite honestly, the 616 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: playoffs start Sunday night. In this battle, I had a 617 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: tough time trying to pick this one. You know, I 618 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: just love what Minnesota has been doing. They've been so hot, 619 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: and I just think, man, that's a tough environment to 620 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: go into, and that I thought that Detroit kind of 621 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: showed you a little something last week in a game 622 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: where they could have just shut it down. I was like, Okay, nope, 623 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell just kept his foot on the gas man. So, 624 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: how Jared Goff handles the pressure, to me, if he 625 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: can handle the pressure of and I'm not talking like 626 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: mental preer, I'm talking about the actual pass rush pressure, 627 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: that's point. If he can handle the pressure, I think 628 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: that Detroit will win this ball game. If Detroit's able 629 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 1: to get to him and uh and kind of disrupt 630 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: things early, I think Minnesota wins. 631 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: Uh. 632 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: So that to me is a that's gonna be the 633 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: whole story of the game. 634 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: It is a story to game. And let's let's be 635 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 2: real because the game breaks down to Jared Golf versus 636 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: Brian Flores. Yeah, go back and we look at Jered 637 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 2: Goff's history versus Brian Flores. He's had some clunkers against 638 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: Brian Flores. That that zero blitz pressure, that hot blitz 639 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 2: pressure that Minnesota employees, it's gonna test them. And the 640 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: thing that anyone who studied Minnesota will realize is early downs. 641 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: They're all about trying to create negative plays DJ. Their 642 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: bliss rate is ridiculous. They're gonna bring pressure early and 643 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: off and on first and second down to get you 644 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: behind the chains and then they're gonna force you to 645 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: throw in the coverage on third down. The key for 646 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: the Lions they got to stay on schedule, and whatever 647 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: they have to do to stay on schedule, whether that's 648 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: quick game, whether that's run the game, whatever, they have 649 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: to find a way to avoid the long yard of 650 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: situations where now you're throwing into the picket fence. And so, 651 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: to me, yeah, this is Jerry Goff. It's another opportunity 652 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: for him to show the football world that he's really 653 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: the dude when it comes to that offense and making 654 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: it tick. 655 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: Well. I'm excited to see what Sam does too. On 656 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: the other side for Minnesota, It's been so fun to 657 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: watch him kind of reach his potential this year and 658 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: in this ballgame, I'm curious to see how Detroit plays 659 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: it because I feel like they're not going to be 660 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: able to get home with four. They're gonna have to 661 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: send bodies, and man, you send bodies and you leave 662 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: Terry on Arnold out there alone with Justin Jefferson at 663 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: times like that's not gonna go well at this point 664 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: his career, no so, And. 665 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: I appreciate this because I believe to be a great 666 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 2: coach and to be a great team, you have to 667 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: have some of this. You got to have some stubbornness 668 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: to you. And the lines are stubborn. When everyone is 669 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: saying they can't continue to play Mandy Man, they be like, 670 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: by darn we can't. We sure are, We're gonna lock 671 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 2: it up. We're gonna bring pressure and I don't care 672 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: who's on the perimeter that is thin. And we've seen 673 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: them give up some big plays. We've seen Tarry Arnold 674 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: give up some big plays. And I'm gonna say this 675 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: because I think it's really important that we not only 676 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: talk about Justin Jefferson, but Jordan Aison. Just people that work. 677 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 2: And you know the excitement that Minnesota had when they 678 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: were able to draft Jordan Addison to go with Justin Jefferson. Look, man, 679 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: it's been validated because Addison has been a nice compliment 680 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: to Justin Jefferson. Outstanding route runners, super smart, can play 681 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: multiple spots within the formation. They have a few differ 682 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: for ways to attack. And so for the Lions, that 683 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: man heavy, blitz heavy approach that's really worked for them 684 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: leads them vulnerable to some big plays and the one 685 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: thing we know about Kevin. Let's say this, this is 686 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: a play call, this showdown, OH and Johnson going against 687 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell. This is Oh. I've been saving a few 688 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: treats on the court seat just for this week. We 689 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: can see some fun plays and offensively, it's gonna be 690 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: a lot of fun to check out what both of 691 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 2: these play callers are gonna do. 692 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is that we have the best 693 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: two wide receivers on the planet. Nobody would dispute this. 694 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: It's justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase. They're the Those are the guys. 695 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: Clear guys both batman, but man, they both have Robin 696 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: plus when you look at t Higgins and now Addison, 697 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: like what those guys have done, like that's not like 698 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: a cute little sidekick, Like that's a very good partner 699 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: in crime for those dudes. 700 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: And without being distracted, I believe Cincinnati would be wise 701 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: to scien Ti Higgins and Jamar Chase and to do 702 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: what we've talked about before on the podcast. Hey, rather 703 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: than balancing your team out, Hey, how about we get 704 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: great on one side? Because if we get great on 705 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: one side, that's an easy way to get to ten. 706 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 2: We can figure out the other part of it with 707 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: the side kicks. We're seeing more teams do that, like 708 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 2: we have wide receiver one and wide receiver one B. 709 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: And look at Philly like Philly's and the. 710 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 2: Zepiel has been able to do it. There is something 711 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 2: to that. And as a look at Minnesota and what 712 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: they're able to do, I look at Detroit in a 713 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 2: different way. They have that with a Mama Saint Brown 714 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 2: and Jameson Williams as he's coming on like Gangbusters. You 715 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 2: have to have multiple ways to be able to attack 716 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: the defense. And both the team's teams not only have 717 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: the personnel to do it, they have the play callers 718 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: who know how to get it done. That's why this 719 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 2: game is really gonna be fascinating to watch. 720 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: I had no question looking forward to it. Cannot wait. 721 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 2: Download the Draft Kings Sportsbook app now use code MTS. 722 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 2: New customers can bet just five bucks to get one 723 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars in bonus. Best if your best 724 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: wins only on Drafting Sportsbook with code MTS. The crown 725 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 2: is yours. 726 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: All right, buck, this is a fun one today. We 727 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: have We'll have more come in your way. Tomorrow. One 728 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: more episode this week, then we'll be back next week 729 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: to recap all of the action from an NFL weekend 730 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: and set the stage for the playoffs, as well as 731 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: break down any changes that might be coming on the 732 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: coaching slash general manager front at the early portion of 733 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: next week. All right, appreciate you guys hanging with us. 734 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow right here on with the sticks.