1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Mr Garbatschev, tear down this wall. Either you're with us 2 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: or you were with the terrorists. If you've got healthcare already, 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,639 Speaker 1: then you can keep your plan. If you are satisfied 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: with is not President of the United States, take it 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: to the bank. Together, we will make America great again. 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: We'll never shard. It's what you've been waiting for all day. 7 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton with America. Now join the conversation called buck 8 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: toll free at eight four four nine hundred buck that's 9 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred two, eight to five the 10 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: future of talk radio, buck Sexton, Team Buck. Welcome to 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt buck Sexton here with you, coming to 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: you live from Las Vegas, Nevada. Very much, enjoying my 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: time out here. A lot to talk about today, as 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: is our custom here in the Hut. Eight four four 15 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,199 Speaker 1: nine bucket four to eight to five. If you would 16 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: like to chat about, oh, anything really that's on your mind, 17 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: we could certainly get into the news of the day 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: if you. I know, there were a bunch of calls 19 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: I came in yesterday that I did not have the 20 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: chance to get to. If you want a mulligan, if 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: you want to step up, a step up to the 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: tea and take another swing. By all means, my friends, 23 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: I'd like to start today before we roll up our 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: sleeves and dig into the politics which tends to be 25 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: a mainstay here of the Hut. It was a a 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: day that brought some bipartisan bipartisan celebration right rightfully, So um, 27 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: we can start on a very happy, positive note. Representative 28 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Steve Scalise was welcome back, welcomed back into the House 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: of Representatives and back to Congress after fifteen weeks of recovery. 30 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: He was attacked in that ambush in June at the 31 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: baseball field and Alexandria and Steve Scalise came home to 32 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: a hero's welcome in Congress. Play clip one. Please recognize 33 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: for as much time as he making say wow, thank you, 34 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Mr Speaker. Uh, you have no idea how great this 35 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: feels to be back here at work in the People's House. 36 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: And he also took the time specifically to single out 37 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: the good guy, good guy and good gal in this 38 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: case with a gun who saved his life. He he 39 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: specifically singled out those of the those heroes of the 40 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: Capitol Police. Clip two. I want to specifically mention Crystal 41 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: Grinder and David Bailey. Crystal couldn't be with us today, 42 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: but David Bailey is with us. David, you are my hero. 43 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: You saved my life. Never thank you so much. I 44 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: think important to note that those Capitol Police officers not 45 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: only saved Steve Scalise's life, but almost certainly prevented that 46 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 1: mass assassination attempt on that baseball diamond in Alexandria, Virginia 47 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: from becoming one of the most horrific and infamous political 48 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: political moments, uh moments of political violence in my lifetime 49 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: perhaps and many of the lifetimes if you're listening as well. 50 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: It would have been horrific, and it was only averted 51 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: because of the fast action and bravery of the Capitol 52 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Hill Police. Scalise. We now have more details on it, 53 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: and we can speak about it without the same concern 54 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: because we know that he's okay and Representative Scalif scalieves 55 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: made it back to the Congress, and he's back on 56 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: the job, standing up for freedom, standing up for himself 57 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: and all those who have been supporting him all this time. 58 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: It was a a close fought thing, though, for Scalise 59 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: to survive. We have been reading accounts from the medical 60 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: team that was dealing with them, and they said that 61 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: he was at the imminent risk of death from a 62 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: massive bleeding in internal hemorrhaging. Uh you know, hit in 63 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: the he was hit in the hip area and very 64 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: very easily could have died. So it was a a 65 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: close thing, indeed, And we're just very happy that member 66 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: of the United States Congress, one of ours, one of 67 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: our representatives, forget about Republican or Democrat, one of ours 68 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: is back on the job made it. And we just 69 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: are so thankful and and and happy for him and 70 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: his family and his colleagues, and for the whole country, 71 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: for the whole country. It it is a It would 72 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: have been a black mark on our political history for 73 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: someone who, as we know, was a Bernie Sanders supporting leftist. 74 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: But to have assassinated a member of Congress out there 75 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: playing baseball, tried to assassinate many more, that would have 76 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: led us down some some dark pathways. I think that 77 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: would be difficult for the nation to shake off. So 78 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: it was a nearly it was nearly catastrophic. It was 79 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: horrific enough as it was, but it was nearly catastrophic 80 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: for us. And I think it's important that we take 81 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: this moment today to be thankful that it was not 82 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: worse than that. Representative Scalise is back in action. He's 83 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: going to be okay. He spoke about the need for 84 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: unity and not making things in our politics overly personal, 85 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: and I wanted to I wanted to give that a 86 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: moment of our time as well. Play clip three. Please 87 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: each and every one of us. We come here and 88 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: and we fight for the things that we believe in. 89 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: I have passionate beliefs. Uh for some reason, some of 90 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: you don't agree with all of those. But it's so 91 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: important that we come up here. We are the people's house. 92 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: This is the place where these ideas are supposed to 93 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: be debated, and we fight through those issues, but ultimately 94 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: we come together. It's so important that as we're having 95 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: those political battles, we don't make them personal, and we 96 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: don't make them personal. And also we don't create excuses 97 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: or come up with m ways to describe things that 98 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: are speech or that our thoughts and come up with 99 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: excuses to meet them with violence. That speech equals violence, 100 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: which has become widely accepted on the left. In fact, 101 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of the anti fascist handbook right now. 102 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,599 Speaker 1: I've been reading this anti book, and it's important, I think, 103 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: for many of you to at least know this much 104 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: from what is now described as anti fab but has 105 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: been around for much longer than that, that the militant 106 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: left has support in intellectual intellectual precincts, if you will, 107 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: and in on campuses across the country, in many newsrooms 108 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: and many media outlets. If they don't agree with or 109 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: adopt the violent tactics of the Left, they are at 110 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: least sympathetic to the overall message. And that sympathy in 111 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: and of itself needs to be met with the full 112 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: force of intellectual opposition that all of us can muster. 113 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: It needs to be met, I think, often with with 114 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: ridicule and with exposure the notion that ideas you don't 115 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: like our tantamount to or equivalent to work, or more 116 00:07:54,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: or less the same thing as violence creates a a mechanism, 117 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: creates a paradigm through which you can always find an 118 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: excuse for violence in response to ideas that you don't like. Now, 119 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: this doesn't when I say you, I'm in the general 120 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: you that one does not like, and leftists have been 121 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: running with this for a while the overheated rhetoric about 122 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: Trump has had consequences already. I believe that we saw 123 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: those consequences, as much as the media would like to 124 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: forget them. The consequences of a mass assassination attempt, specifically 125 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: against conservative Republican members of Congress, by a militant and 126 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: radicalized leftist from within our own country. Right, This was 127 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: in jihadism. This wasn't some uh, some imported ideology from abroad. 128 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: This wasn't a a foreign terrorist who wanted to re 129 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: cavoc against America because of perception about our foreign policy, 130 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,719 Speaker 1: or because of whatever. You know, the historical injustice, who 131 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:08,719 Speaker 1: knows a colonialism, They always have some rationale for the 132 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: evil violence that they inflict. Whatever whoever the terrorists may be, 133 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: that they have an excuse for it. And in this case, 134 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: the leftist Bernie Sanders supporting lunatic who tried to kill 135 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: our members of Congress. Um was very, thankfully for all 136 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: of us, unsuccessful. But I think he was, at least 137 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: in part a symptom of the larger disease of anti 138 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: Trump or just Trump derangement syndrome that nightly news broadcasts 139 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: saying that the president is a traitor, that the president 140 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: is is a criminal, is a liar, is a misogynist 141 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: or racist, xenophobe, but crook, you know, a psychopath. I mean, 142 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: these are all mainstream criticisms you'll hear of of the 143 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: sinning president of the United States from media outlets that 144 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: become all huffy, all become all indignant when you challenge 145 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: their credibility or their their biases. How dare you, Well, 146 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: we have eyes and ears, we see, we understand, we know, 147 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: and there is a much broader movement afoot right now 148 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: among and it's from within the Democratic Party primarily. Yeah, 149 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: I know that this is where I would get you know, 150 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: an angry leftist may be calling it. Oh, but what 151 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: about what about the white nationalists? That the white nationalists 152 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: have about as much clout within mainstream Republican circles as 153 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: the guy that you see pushing uh a supermarket cart 154 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: down the street with a big sign that says, you know, tomorrow, 155 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: the end is here, and some people may believe him, 156 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 1: but usually he's ignored. Usually nobody particularly cares. Doesn't mean 157 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: that that guy can also be threatening or violent or 158 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: a problem, but it doesn't have credibility. People aren't buying 159 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: into it. People ignore it on the left. As I 160 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: was saying to you, as I am reading, I am 161 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: reading the text of the left, the justifications, the rationalizations 162 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: of violence from a Democrat leftist mindset, and they have 163 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: they they have come up with these justifications for for violence, 164 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: and they're putting them out there for us. They're not 165 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: hiding from it. It's just a question of how widespread 166 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: the support is for this on the left and within 167 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: Democrats circles. But you don't have to look very far 168 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: or very hard to find a college professor who celebrates 169 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: the murder of police officers, or to find individuals who 170 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: have followings on social media who are hateful towards Trump. 171 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: What was it just recently you had? I think it 172 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: was just today Kathy Griffin and not funny comedian, A 173 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: lot of not funny comedians, isn't that? Isn't that interesting? 174 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: As you see this happening time and again, the comedians 175 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: who get caught up in pushing some political narrative that 176 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,959 Speaker 1: is finally too heinous even for their Democrat media and 177 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 1: sponsors to accept. They did not not be funny. And 178 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: I always wonder, well, if they weren't funny how do 179 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 1: they get to this place originally? And I don't really 180 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: have particularly good answers to that. But Kathy Griffin has 181 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: come out and said that she didn't do anything wrong 182 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: when she had held up a severed Hey, you know, 183 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: I severed make believe Trump head, and she'll be welcome 184 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: back on TV and Democrats circles very quickly. So there 185 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: is something different right now. There is a violent mentality 186 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: that has spread throughout the left because they find it useful, 187 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: I think, for political reasons to pretend that Trump is 188 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: a fascist, is a traitor all of that. Some people 189 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: will take that overheated rhetoric to heart and act upon it. 190 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: And I think that today, while we celebrate the return 191 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: of Congressman Steve Scalisee, and I take his words to 192 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: heart when he says that we shouldn't make political battles personal, 193 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: we also can allow others to make them personal, or 194 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: to pretend that violence is an acceptable response to political 195 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: arguments or too political speech, or really speech of any 196 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: kind that you don't like. Nazi punching is neither righteous 197 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: nor funny, especially because most of the people that they're 198 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: calling Nazis these days have nothing to do with Nazis. 199 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: This is what the left needs to understand, and we 200 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: need to make them own this and to either defend 201 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: it or decry it and push against this. I want 202 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 1: to talk to you about what I see now as 203 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: the big fight over over taxes. Um of a few 204 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: things that are going to come up over the course 205 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: of the show today. So now now I get into 206 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: the road map section UM if I get If I 207 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: have the chance, we will discuss how sexism cost Hillary 208 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: the election. That will come later on what do you 209 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: mean sexism? What happened? We'll get into that later. That 210 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: was from Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, also Reality winner, who 211 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: is accused of leaking classified information to the press. She 212 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: I saw this report that she didn't want Fox News on, 213 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: she wanted Al Jazeera on. This is what we in 214 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: the analytic community would call an indicator. But when when 215 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: you have an American who works the federal government who 216 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: prefers Al Jazeera to Fox News, you got a problem. 217 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: And I'm here to tell you that there are a 218 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: lot of people who work for the federal government. I think, 219 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: I mean not a lot in terms of percentage, but 220 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: a lot more than you realize, who probably think that 221 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: al Jazira is more accurate and honest than Fox News, 222 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: and they hold security clearances and they work in the 223 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: national security side of things. So we'll get into that hopfully. 224 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: UH in a bit. Also at the end of the show, 225 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: a five time five things that can make you sound 226 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: racist that you didn't know This is according to Left 227 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: You will find that, I think to be quite interesting. 228 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: And but taxas, taxes, taxes, all the fate of Tom 229 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Price get into some of that. I'm not sure how 230 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 1: much longer he's gonna be running. H H S and 231 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: Chuck Todd on the Constitution and the Declaration and the 232 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: Founding Fathers. Guys supposed to be political expert doesn't know 233 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: much about the Founding Alright, some lines are lit. Let's 234 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: get into it. Randall from Alabama where they just had 235 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: that big Senate primary race which ended with Roy Moore winning. 236 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: What's up Randall? Hi? Hi, Yes, first time caller, Buck. Um, 237 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: I just wanted to kind of give your as I 238 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: heard you call yesterday with someone from another part of Alabama. 239 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: And UM, I'm down here in UM Mobile and Uh 240 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: I had the Uh I had the fortune to be 241 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: here at at lad People Stadium. UM and when Trump 242 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: held his first big rally down here and it was 243 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: very exciting. Uh, and went to another of his rallies 244 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: down over in Melbourne, Florida, his little celebration or Victory tour. Um. 245 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: I was a supporter of Mo Brooks and uh, you 246 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: know when when Mo didn't make it into the final 247 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: cut of the primary, Uh, there was no way that 248 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: I was going to be supporting Luther Strange. Um. You'll note, 249 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you heard, I've actually had Mo 250 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: on the show a couple of times. So I like Mo. Yeah, yeah, 251 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean I believe Mo was a good person and 252 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: for some of the same reasons. Uh, Rory Moore as well. 253 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: And you know, he also had one of the greatest, 254 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: one of the greatest MSNBC TV moments of all time. 255 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: When do you remember this when when the anchor I 256 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: forget her name, she goes, well, excuse me, do you 257 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: have a degree in economic and he's like, highest honors 258 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Duke University is like that's a yes. Well, I think 259 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people have some kind of oppression that 260 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, everyone everyone down here in Alabama is uneducated, 261 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's just you know, it's not 262 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: the case. You know, people who are supporting constitutional conservatives 263 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: down here, you know they come from. But tell me 264 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: why you supported Roy Moore. Not to cut you off random, 265 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: but we're going to run into a break here quickly, 266 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: So tell me why he stayed more because he's a 267 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: constitutional conservative. I've never heard Luther Strange once mentioned God 268 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: or the Constitution, and certainly not the two in the 269 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: same breath. And you know that's that's what Roy Moore. 270 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, that's what sold Roy Moore to me. He 271 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,719 Speaker 1: he really put his his career and and everything on 272 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: the line for what he believed in. He got a 273 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: lot of flat for it. Um, But I mean he 274 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: was right, and he was willing to stand up for 275 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: you know. Even the thing where people claim that he 276 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: told the Circuit Court judges in Alabama not performed game marriages, 277 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: that's not true. What he did was he said, look, 278 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court has made this ruling, but but the 279 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: law of Alabama is still in place. You know, so 280 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: you you go and do this, you're putting yourself at risk. 281 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: You know, you're putting yourself in legal jeopardy if you 282 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: go and you start performing these uh game marriages until 283 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: the law is settled, is settled until until, you know, 284 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: until it becomes clarified. So he was he he wasn't 285 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: telling people to break the law or to do, you know, 286 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: something that was illegal. He was basically just trying to 287 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: have their back and say, you know, he doesn't have 288 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: a power to tell them what to do, you know. 289 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: So all he did was say, look careful because you 290 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: put yourself in legal jeopardy. So the main criticism you 291 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: know that they had of him is really wrong, you know, 292 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: all right than calling in shield side first time. Call 293 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: are great to hear from you. I appreciate it on 294 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: the lines. So I'm gonna I'm gonna boil the whole 295 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: tax argument debate discussion that's happening in the country down 296 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: right now into into its essence. I want to pull 297 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: I want to pull away all of the the nonsense 298 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: and the you know, getting lost in the details for 299 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: a second. Here's what the tax debate right now is 300 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:28,679 Speaker 1: really about. Class warfare. Let's talk about that. He's holding 301 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: the line for America. Buck Sexton his back. I told 302 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: you we would talk about class warfare. Buck Sexton back 303 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: with you all here in the Freedom Hunt. I told 304 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: you we would talk about class warfare in the context 305 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: of the tax debate, all right, because otherwise it's you know, 306 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: this numbers, this number, which the numbers matter, But what 307 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: drives that discussion has to do much more with the 308 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: perception of what is fair and and and envy, resentment 309 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 1: and class warfare and paying your fair share. You remember 310 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 1: that right from I'll pay your fair share? Um. But 311 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: I would ask if we could, for just a moment, 312 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: put a hold on the class warfare discussion. Well, we'll 313 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: get to it, I promise. But this just popped up 314 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: in my news feed while I was on air, and 315 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: I need to preface this by saying, I don't know 316 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: if this is if this is a photo that can 317 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: be verified, I don't know the full context of it yet, 318 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: but it is making making the rounds already. I've I've 319 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: seen it now from some friends over at, from some 320 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: friends and conservative news to be sure. I have been 321 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: sharing it and responding to it, and it's from American 322 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: Military News dot com. That's the site that has it up, 323 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: although I know this is also getting posted and shared elsewhere. 324 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: Here's the headline picture of man kneeling during taps at 325 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: tune of the Unknown Soldiers sparking outrage following NFL protests. 326 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: So there's a photo that shows someone while everyone else 327 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: is being respectful at the tune of the unknown known soldier, 328 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 1: the playing of taps at Arlington National Cemetery. You have 329 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: someone who has taken a knee taken a knee during that, 330 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: and there's a photo of it. Now, I cannot verify 331 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: more of the background or context of this, and we're 332 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: trying to right now. I want to see if we 333 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: can figure out what exactly is what exactly is the 334 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: backstory to this photo. I gave you the site and 335 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: I am trying to look more into this now. It's 336 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: mostly on Facebook and social media is where it's making 337 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: the rounds. But it struck me because tonight the Packers, 338 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, who have a have a very devoted 339 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: fan base. I know this on fact in in d C. 340 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: My roommate was a a super fan of the Packers 341 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: and it was practically a practically a religious religious belief 342 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: up there. Love of the Packers up in Wisconsin, and 343 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: which I know people now who are listening in Minnesota 344 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: and or Vikings fans are like. But we'll get into 345 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: that some other day. The Packers have asked their fans 346 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: to join them tonight in a Are we calling it 347 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: a protest or is it a show of solidarity? Well, 348 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: what is it? They're gonna lock people are locking arms 349 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: during the anthem. I'm not sure how to describe this 350 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: because I don't even know if the people who want 351 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: to do it, and this is being led by Aaron Rodgers, 352 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 1: the quarterback for the Packers, the Green May Packers, I 353 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: don't even know if they know why they want to 354 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: do this other than the impulse to be on the 355 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: side of the players who want to make some political 356 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: statement and the owners and others who are or coaches, owners, 357 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: who ever. I want to do something during this. But 358 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: you will remember from earlier on in our discussions about 359 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: this whole NFL protest movement, which now also we had 360 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: Gregg Popovich from the San Antonio Spurs, I think making 361 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: some pretty buffoonish comments about, you know, white privilege in 362 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: white people and all the rest of it. But I 363 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: said to you, to illustrate the point, I said to 364 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: you that what would what would we do? What would 365 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: we think if somebody, even if they had a righteous 366 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: message or a worthy cause, if they showed up at 367 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: a funeral and interrupted the proceedings, made a spectacle of 368 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: themselves in some way or another to bring attention to 369 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: their cause at a person's funeral. Now the anthem is 370 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: not a funeral, but the anthem is about respecting our flag, 371 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 1: the country, and those who have fought and died for 372 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: the country. But here we are are now assuming that 373 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: this photo is accurate, that it's not. You know, when 374 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: I say accurate, I don't. I don't. It could be 375 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: photo shopped. I don't know the background of it right. 376 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: It hasn't been verified yet, but it is getting a 377 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: lot of attention online. Or if I verify this while 378 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,919 Speaker 1: we're on air, if I know more about I'll certainly 379 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: tell you. But let's assume that this photo depicts what 380 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: it seems to depict, which is somebody who, during taps 381 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: at the tomb of the unknown soldier, is taking a 382 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: knee inform in a form of protest one way of 383 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: one kind or another. What is the issue. Is it 384 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: systemic racism? Is it injustice? Is it raising awareness about 385 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: history or legacy of slavery or oppression of minorities? I 386 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: don't know, police violence against minorities. It depends on who 387 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: you ask right, there is an incoherence to this movement 388 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: insofar as it's not clear what it's even upset about, 389 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: never mind how it would like people to fix that. 390 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: But I'll get back to that in a moment, but 391 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: for now, I used the analogy of a funeral earlier 392 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: to just show there is a time and place issue 393 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: with making a spectacle of yourself or a team making 394 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: a spectacle of itself for political reasons during our national anthem. 395 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: I think it's inappropriate and disrespectful, and those are gentle words. 396 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: And if I weren't on radio, I would have much 397 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: more colorful language to use, salty, or language about what 398 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: I think the wisdom or in this case, the extreme 399 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: lack thereof of doing that. But I use the issue 400 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: of a funeral to show because couldn't we all agree 401 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: that that would be I mean, this is why the 402 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: the imbeciles of the Westboro Baptist Church, which you know, 403 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: I don't know how many hundreds of people are members 404 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: of it or but it's it's obviously a fringe. But 405 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: when they show up and they make points in their 406 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: own minds about the dead soldiers and tying it too 407 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: biblical whatever, it doesn't they're just they're they're idiots, but 408 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: they show up at a funeral of military service members 409 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: because they know how outrageous it is. They know how 410 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: deeply disrespectful it is, and it is a coward punk 411 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: move to do that. So that's the Westboro Baptist Church 412 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: at the funerals of service members. I used the analogy 413 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: of a funeral because I think we could all no 414 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: matter what your political persuasion. There are liberals who listen 415 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: to this show. I'm sure there are even some leftists 416 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: and maybe even some Antifa folks. No matter what your 417 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: political persuasion is, we could all agree on the decency. 418 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: And it's not a First Amendment issue because the First 419 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: Amendment also gives me the right to say that people 420 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 1: who do certain things are acting like idiots, or maybe 421 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: just are morons. Maybe they are idiots, but I don't 422 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: want to hear about oh they're right. Yeah, it's my 423 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: right to say that there there morons. I'm not saying 424 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: the police get to run up and and arrest them, 425 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: but they're they're idiots. And I can say this, but 426 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: the funeral should be as clear as clear can be, 427 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 1: because there's a basic expectation in civil society that we 428 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: have of decency, and to interrupt funeral proceedings where people 429 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: are coming together and dealing with grieving and loss and 430 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: real pain that we could that we should respect. That 431 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: would seem to be a universal American value, a universal 432 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: American virtue. And here we are now, but a few 433 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: days later, with someone who is choosing to make a 434 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: political statement during the playing of taps at the tomb 435 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery. How much 436 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: more disrespectful and h insidious can an actor can an 437 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: act of protest and an act of self congratulation or 438 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: whatever whatever this is in the minds of the people 439 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: doing it. I couldn't even begin to explain how much 440 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: worse is it going to get? You See, I used 441 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: an example that felt like it was It felt like 442 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 1: it was an extreme for the purposes of clarity, we 443 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: can all agree that a funeral would not be the 444 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: place to do this, raising awareness about oppression of minorities 445 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: by the police, whatever right, We can all agree that 446 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: the funeral. Now we are talking about people posting photos 447 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: of themselves protesting taps, not the tune of the Unknown 448 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: Soldier or during taps. How far is that in terms 449 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: of being disrespectful, I mean very similar to showing up 450 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: at a funeral. Right. This is about pay in respect 451 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: to those who lost their lives and in the service 452 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: of this country. And yet people will still engage in 453 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: this protest movement or whatever you want to call it. 454 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: So what was used as the extreme example by me 455 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: on this show a few days ago now seems to 456 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: have already that's a red line that's already been crossed 457 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: because there is no real intellectual, moral and ethical foundation 458 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: to this protest movement. It's about self congratulation, it's about 459 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: self pity and self righteousness all at the same time. 460 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of cowardice that pushes people 461 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: to do this and a lot of hubris that pushes 462 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 1: people to do this in the NFL and elsewhere. A 463 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: few more notes on this. I wasn't even really planning 464 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: on talking much about the NFL to that, but I 465 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 1: just saw this, And also on my screen here we 466 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: got a big thing about the Packers asking fans to 467 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: join them. I don't think that's gonna happen, and the 468 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: Broncos are choosing to stand. That's on the Drudge Reports, 469 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: the Denver bron Pcos will be standing for the anthem. 470 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: Others have expressed other coaches and players or coaches and 471 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: owners have expressed their desire that players stand. They're not 472 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: mandating it, even though they do mandate restrictions on other 473 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: kinds of expression and speech. I mean, this is a 474 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: league where you can get fine. The NFL is a 475 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: league where you can get fine for being overly jubilant 476 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: in the end zone, right, I mean doing a little 477 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: too much dancing and celebrating. But they're going to say 478 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: that the anthem. You know, well, that's a free speech 479 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: that's a free expression issue. You know, you can't as 480 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: a private enterprise, the NFL, you can't intervene in that. 481 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: As we know, there's there's hypocrisy there. They intervened in 482 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: things all the time. A couple more thoughts, but if 483 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: you have any one, if you have if you've seen 484 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: this photo that I'm talking about, those in American Military 485 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: Times dot com and uh it's it's getting shared. If 486 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: you know any more about it or you have any 487 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: thoughts on it, would really appreciate hearing from you. Lines 488 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: are open eight four four eight to five. That's eight 489 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: four four nine buck a couple more things on this, 490 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: all the NFL protests, because I know that there there's 491 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: a school of thought out there, especially among conservatives, who 492 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: really want to get into the nitty gritty of the 493 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: tax code, even though who knows how far and how 494 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: much we're going to get in this negotiation that's going 495 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: to have to involve Democrats, and the Trump administration just 496 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: needs a win on the board, and so does Congress. 497 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: I get all that. I think that the culture battle 498 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: that's playing the culture war that's playing out right now. 499 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about class warfare coming up, but the 500 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: culture war that's playing out right now with the NFL, 501 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: it does matter because it goes to who we are 502 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: and what we as a people in civil society find 503 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: to be virtuous, what we find to be distasteful or disdainful. 504 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: And that's a discussion that is worth having. And I 505 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: see this UH protests kneeling take a knee protest movement, 506 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: and there's so much incoherence to it already. It seems 507 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: to me like when you can even decide as a 508 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: movement what you are protesting, never mind how you are protesting, 509 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: how can anyone take it seriously? This is about addressing 510 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: and solving an issue. You know, if you're just going 511 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: to go out and protest in the street and make 512 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: a lot of noise, let's say, forget about the NFL 513 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: for a second, because of inequality. You are engaged in 514 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: the act of protesting for its own sake, because there 515 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: will always be inequality. But it's a way of stirring 516 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: up passions and getting attention and getting people riled up. 517 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: And if you want to take a page from the 518 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: Olynsky playbook, you just need to mobilize people on any issue, 519 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: get them riled up, get them emotional, and then you 520 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: can use them for political purposes. That's classic Olynskey, straight 521 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: out of Rules for Radicals. If protesting because you want, 522 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, higher wages for steel workers in your hometown 523 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: and there's some federal regulation that you want to change, well, 524 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: you're raising awareness about an issue that you see a 525 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: way to make better. And I think that we are 526 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: miles from that with this whole NFL thing. It started 527 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: out as against cops who are violent against minorities, and 528 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: now it's about Trump, and then it's about the country, 529 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: and then it's about the First Amendment. And if the 530 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: movement that this is Let me close with this thought, 531 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: and then I can see the line. People, I have 532 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: a feeling you have some thoughts on this. If a 533 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: movement is about whatever the person in the moment feels 534 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: or says it's about, it's not actually a movement. It's 535 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: just an impulse. It's just an emotion. Am I describing 536 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: a Democratic party at large, by the way, perhaps, But 537 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: that's what's happening here. It's devolving into a series of 538 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: gestures for their own sake of virtue, signaling without virtue. 539 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: Virtue signaling without virtue may be a defining characteristic of 540 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,399 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party in the American progressive left. Right now, 541 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: look at me, look at me, Look at how great 542 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: I am. I'm I'm I'm fighting against Trump, I'm fighting 543 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: against fascism. I'm part of the hashtag resistance. Well, what 544 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: risks are you taking? What sacrifices are you making? What 545 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 1: intellectually defensible case are you putting out there and defending 546 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: against scrutiny? Man, I'm gonna take a knee, I'm gonna 547 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: disrupt people, I'm gonna yell at people, I'm gonna throw things, 548 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna act out, I'm gonna be a baby. That's 549 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: not a movement that I'm going to respect. Whether it's 550 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: punching people for their speech on college campuses or taking 551 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: the knee during the national anthem, it's just not something 552 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to respect. And I don't have to because 553 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: I have First Amendment rights to the NFL's in a box. 554 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: They have to do something of at it the disrespecting 555 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: and when I say they, in a way, it is 556 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 1: they because they can stop it. You know, they have 557 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: rules for everything. You can't dance in the end zone, 558 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: you can't wear the pink socks relative to breast cancer, 559 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: which one of the players. They have rules for everything. 560 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: Why aren't they honoring this country by enforcing a rule 561 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: that's been in existence for a long time. I think 562 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: they're afraid of their players. You want to know the truth, 563 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's disgraceful, and they've got to be 564 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: tough and they've got to be smart because you look 565 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: at the ratings, the ratings are gonna weigh down. The 566 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: stadiums are I've seen a couple of stadiums over the 567 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,439 Speaker 1: last few weeks. They are losing. There are a lot 568 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: of empty seats. The President weighing in on the NFL controversy. 569 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: I think it is correct. A lot of U league 570 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: officials and team owners, they're they're worried that that that 571 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: they would have something of a mutiny on their hands 572 00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: if they came down too hard on on these protests. Uh. 573 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: And they're hoping to make this about Trump, but as 574 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: we know, it wasn't about Trump in the beginning. We 575 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: will see how this plays out tonight with the Green 576 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: Bay Packers and the Denver Broncos are gonna stand. I 577 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: thought I'll be fine, But the Green Bay Packers wanting 578 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: everyone to lock arms in the stadium? What is that? 579 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: What is that supposed to mean? Am I solidarity? Solidarity 580 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: for what? Where? The national anthem is about solidarity? So 581 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: what do they think they're accomplishing? I don't and I'm 582 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: and I actually mean that, I don't know what they 583 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 1: think they're doing. It's not clear. And if you're going 584 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 1: to do something for the optics of it, people should 585 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: know why you're doing it. I would think Bill in 586 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: North Carolina, I know you've got some thoughts on this. 587 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: What's up, sir, Bill? What's up? Well, I'll tell you 588 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: what Navy veteran I'll do the eighties and nineties. Uh 589 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: told the color screener a second ago about some of 590 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 1: about the fact that I just wanted to leigh in 591 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: a little bit on that with the fellow taking the 592 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: knee at the two of the Unknown Soldier. I'm not 593 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: quite sure why I haven't seen the picture. I've been 594 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: there a few times. Um, I've always I've always got 595 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: tears in my eyes every time I do, and UM, 596 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 1: I sometimes want to take a knee in prayer. But 597 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 1: this has been a while back, you know, So I 598 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: don't know the guy's motive unless he wanted to take 599 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: a selfie or somebody it is, it is conceivable. That's 600 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: why I said, I don't know the background either. Maybe 601 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,239 Speaker 1: he's takken a knee in prayer. I don't know. It's 602 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: it's not clear from the photo. We don't have any 603 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: more info. We tried to find more. We're trying to 604 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: find more right well. And saying that, though, I'll tell 605 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: you what. My my youngest daughter, when she was in 606 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,800 Speaker 1: ninth grade, wrote an essay and one a one the 607 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: chance to put a reaf at the two of the 608 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 1: Unknown Soldier in a ceremony. What she did, and I 609 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: went there to do it, and it was. It was 610 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: an amazing thing. It was an amazing thing. And if 611 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: you go and you feel somehow the need to protest 612 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,759 Speaker 1: this country has been institutionally racist somehow, and all of that, 613 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 1: all of that goes away there. It just it goes 614 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: away because you realize that the men who were there 615 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: at Arlington gave their lives and died so that if 616 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: people didn't want to protest and freedom, they can do that, 617 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: but not to spin on the flank, not to spit 618 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: in our face. And that's that's the way I feel. 619 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,359 Speaker 1: It really is the way I feel. It's the way 620 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: it is. You know, they's I couldn't agree. I couldn't 621 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: agree anymore. Bill, Thank you for your service, and thank 622 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: your call man, Shields, Shields High. I'm gonna be running 623 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: into a break here, team in just a few moments. 624 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: We'll be talking about class warfare. He's back with you now, 625 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: because when it comes to the fight for truth, the 626 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: fuck never stops. Welcome back, every w We are joined 627 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: by the one and only Ann Coulter her. She is 628 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,200 Speaker 1: a New York Times best selling author, syndicated columnists. Or 629 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: latest book is in Trump We Trust et Claribus awesome, 630 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: and he's got a piece up from just yesterday. When 631 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: life gives you, Paul Ryan make lemonade and great to 632 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: have you back. Good to talk to you. Buck. How 633 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: are you feeling about all the Trump stuff these days? 634 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: And let's just start there. Um. Well, I've been threatening 635 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 1: to change the the title of the book too in 636 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: Trumps m we trust for some time now. UM. I mean, 637 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: why isn't he doing what won him the nomination back? 638 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 1: I don't have no regrets about supporting him full throatedly, fullheartedly, um, 639 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: because there was no other choice. I mean, when I'm 640 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 1: mad at him for is doing the stuff that the 641 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: other candidates promised to do. Um. What was so great 642 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: and refreshing about his candidacy was that with all of 643 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: his flaws, and there are a lot, um, he just 644 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: he had the normal in stinks of of the average American. Um. 645 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: I I always felt with like, with what Trump can 646 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 1: still do to be frank um, something that I think 647 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people did not feel about about Mitt Romney, 648 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: whom I also supported for having the best position on immigration. 649 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,800 Speaker 1: Um that if you threw a glass of cold water 650 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night on on Donald Trump 651 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 1: and ask him. What do we do about trade? He'd say, 652 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: we're sending too many jobs abroad. What do we do 653 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: about immigration? Deport them all, build a wall. Um. His 654 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: instincts are so great. And then suddenly he gets to 655 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: office and all the people who supported him or sorts 656 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: of people who supported him, No, they're out of luck. 657 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,200 Speaker 1: They're out of luck. Let's I'm sorry, We're turning over 658 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: the administration of the government to to my son in 659 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: law here and Avanka and um, a whole slew of 660 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: never trumpers. Can you I've been seeing this theory out 661 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: there and I really like your take on a day 662 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: and that people are saying, well, you know, maybe if 663 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,160 Speaker 1: the agenda isn't implemented, and I don't know if this 664 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: is denial or this is trying to sort of soften 665 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: things up for the future, maybe the best possible scenario 666 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,600 Speaker 1: in terms of Republican political prospects would be if Trump 667 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: continues the culture war, he continues to talk about the 668 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,320 Speaker 1: NFL and fake news, but you know, the actual Republican 669 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: establishment kind of just goes status quo, because then we'll 670 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: maintain what we have in the mid terms and maybe 671 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,840 Speaker 1: then after that we can actually get the Trump that 672 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: we voted for. Uh. Does that send you into fits 673 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: of rage or do you buy that? Or what do 674 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,800 Speaker 1: you think about that? I could apparently let you finish. 675 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm crawling out of my skin. Um. Look there maybe 676 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,879 Speaker 1: some I'm sure there is. You can find them here 677 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: and there. Um. I don't know such a person. Um. 678 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: But some Trump supporters who voted for him for reasons 679 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: having nothing to do with the policy if he ran on, 680 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 1: they don't think he has a personality. This is the 681 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: kind of man we want sitting in the Oval office. Um. 682 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: I can I can barely even conceive of such a 683 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,040 Speaker 1: human Um. I mean, I mean the aspects of his 684 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: personality that the media is always making fun of. Um. 685 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: A they're right, Um, but d you grow to to 686 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: like them? Um. As long as he's doing the stuff 687 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: he promised, then I will defend him from from anything. 688 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,839 Speaker 1: If he doesn't do that, I think Republicans, I think 689 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: it's the end of the Republican Party in the end 690 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 1: of the country because Republicans will be wiped out in 691 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: the midterm elections. There aren't enough people who just wanted 692 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: a tasteless reality TV star sitting in in the Oval Office. 693 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 1: What do you think about tax does the stuff he promised? 694 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: What do you think an about tax reform now is 695 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 1: what's supposed to get the Republican Well, forget about Republican base. 696 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: That's part of it, but that Trump's based Trump's voters. Okay, 697 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 1: now we're on tax reform. Guys. Now it's serious. I 698 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: look at this and I started to think, Look, I 699 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: understand the economic theory here. I know we're gonna hear 700 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: a lot about growth. I could play you some not 701 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: so inspiring soundbites from Gary Cohne about how a family 702 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: may get you know, a five hundred dollar or a 703 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: thousand dollar whatever his tax cut at the maybe maybe 704 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: at the end of the middle clast families. Uh. To me, 705 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: this is it's It's like the think tank Beltway establishment 706 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden is trying to connect with the 707 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: Trump based on this stuff. And I just don't see 708 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: it happening. I know, I know, I know, I know. 709 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: To speaking of you know what we didn't vote for 710 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: when we voted for Donald Trump. Yeah, let's have not 711 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: gone not too but six Goldman Sacks guys working in 712 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: this way not specifically expressly rejected. It was one of 713 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,360 Speaker 1: Trump's selling points that he was not only not Wall 714 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: Streets candidate Wall Street hated him. Sign me up for 715 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: that the one and I will say, this is absolutely 716 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,360 Speaker 1: not what what he ran on. This is not what 717 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 1: Trump voters want. This isn't even what I want. And um, 718 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: I'd love a tax cut, buck, but not now. No. 719 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,320 Speaker 1: I want jobs through my fellow Americans. America is hurting 720 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: out there there manufacturing jobs. I mean, as I describe 721 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: in um, Adios America, we used to like twenty one 722 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,280 Speaker 1: thousand manufacturing jobs, not that long ago, the era of Reagan, 723 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: twenty one thousand. Um. Now we're down to about ten thousand, 724 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,279 Speaker 1: and it's falling, falling, falling. I want my fellow Americans 725 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: to have jobs and happy lives in a booming middle class. Um. 726 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, having said all of that, 727 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 1: I really, I really want him to get going on 728 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: blocking refugees, deporting illegals, ending NAFTA, and building the wall. 729 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: You know, I eat the stuff he ran on. UM. 730 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,880 Speaker 1: I was looking through all the articles. I didn't actually 731 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 1: read it, but UM read a bunch of the articles 732 00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: about what what was in Trump's town spam when last night, 733 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 1: mostly in the New York Times expecting to agree with them, 734 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: and actually there is a lot of really great stuff 735 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 1: that My favorite thing in it is an end two. 736 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, I think this was gonna hurt you, Buck, 737 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: unless you're down in Texas, in which case you'll totally 738 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: agree with me. Um. It ends the deduction for state 739 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: and local New York, New Jersey, and California get the rough, 740 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: get the rough stuff on this one. No, and they 741 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: deserve it. Um. I mean, you have these these thrifty 742 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: belt tightening states like Texas and Florida and even you know, 743 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: basically all states except the horrible ones Illinois, New York, California. Um, 744 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 1: they're just you know, spending like mad spending on sanctuary cities. 745 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: We're all subsidizing California and New York sanctuary cities and 746 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: English as a Second language programs. Um. No, you shouldn't 747 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 1: be able to deduct state and local taxes. Um. The 748 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: one thing that I did not see anyone mentioned, And 749 00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,719 Speaker 1: maybe the New York Times just doesn't want Trump to 750 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,560 Speaker 1: get it for this, but he's the only presidential candidate 751 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: in my lifetime who ran on ending the carried interest 752 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:09,880 Speaker 1: loophole for hedge fund managers. And oh, boy, do I 753 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: want that at the top of any tax reform plan. Yeah, 754 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: that just hooks them up for taking for levering up essentially, 755 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 1: and it is something that is specific to guys who 756 00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: it incentivizes people for those who are listening, and incentivizes 757 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,399 Speaker 1: big money managers and hedge a manager. It gives them. 758 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: It gives them a tax advantage in what they do. 759 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: And it's one that those those guys actually don't need it. 760 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, somebody who's running a small business with total 761 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: revenue of a hundred or a hundred thousand, they could 762 00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: use a tax break. But is very good on small business. 763 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,840 Speaker 1: I will say, if you're going to have tax reform 764 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,839 Speaker 1: other than the missing hedge funds um the boon they 765 00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: get and it really is just a tax loophole. But 766 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: the I R s Um said, yeah, okay, um, I 767 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: guess we overlooked this, but will let you guys have it. 768 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's completely unjustified and and so that we 769 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: don't blood people, but it's I mean, it's just a 770 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: matter of fairitness. Yeah, it's not going to use a 771 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: lot of money, but the rest of us, you have 772 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 1: a job, I have a job. People listening have a job. 773 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: You make your money, and you pay taxes on that money. 774 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: Then you give it to a bank to invest for you. 775 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: What you have left over on your investment income, you 776 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 1: are only paid. You pay only fifteen on any um 777 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: capital games you make. Okay, fine, all well and good. Yeah, 778 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:28,879 Speaker 1: but if that's what your job is, investing money, that's 779 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: what I'm they're only paying to while well, if it 780 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 1: were treated as income for someone who does this for 781 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: a living, they'd be tax that. I don't know. I 782 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,919 Speaker 1: guess it's over now. Yeah, it's like thirty nine point 783 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: five I think is the highest. But it's it's up there. 784 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,439 Speaker 1: It's it's certainly up there. We're speaking of and called 785 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,280 Speaker 1: their author of in Trump we trust e plurabous awesome, 786 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: as well as I don't know a dozen other New 787 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,600 Speaker 1: York Times bestsellers. Uh, I can't even think of them 788 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: all off the top of my head. And I've been 789 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: wanting to ask you this. Actually thought about just tweeting 790 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 1: this at you because I figured it would be a 791 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 1: pretty straightforward answer. Uh, who do you blame for the 792 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: public and healthcare? To buckle up to this point? Like? 793 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: Who who do you hold in contempt over this? I 794 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: think Paul Ryan, I'm inclined to do that with anything 795 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: that goes wrong. UM. I will say I don't particularly 796 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,359 Speaker 1: blame blame Trump for this. Um. These guys have had 797 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: seven years to come up with what the replacement should be. 798 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 1: And I'm kind of wondering why I never knew they didn't. 799 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: They didn't understand the free market. But it's typical. It's 800 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: part of the swamp. It's part of the reason I've 801 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 1: begun to hate Republicans as much as I hate Democrats. UM. 802 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: That you know, whenever Democrats have all three branches of government, 803 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: they come in UM and oh they got it to 804 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,919 Speaker 1: do list, they're gonna be passing laws and that will 805 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: make your head span. So they healthcare was not was 806 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 1: not well, um distributed or or or um that the 807 00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: health care plan was already like six socialists before Obamacare. Okay, 808 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 1: and now Obamacare makes it so much worse. And and 809 00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: the basic solution is simply you with anything, you have 810 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,800 Speaker 1: to separate the welfare cases from the free market cases. 811 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,959 Speaker 1: The reason we are a wealthy country, I mean, people 812 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 1: always think we're rich and therefore we're free. No, it's 813 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: because we're free that we are rich. That is what 814 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 1: our prosperity comes from. I really wish this would be 815 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: a great opportunity for Donald Trump or any Republican in 816 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: Washington who has half a brain to give a Berlin 817 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: Wall speech and explain to the public the free market 818 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: and and why Orange juice and shoes and Amazon, why 819 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,399 Speaker 1: all these things exist. It's not because you have, um, 820 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 1: you know, little bureaucrats like Paul Ryan figuring out, Oh, 821 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: but we have to make sure they cover pre existing conditions. 822 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 1: It would be like Congress deciding they have to pass 823 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: a law telling hotels you have to have a television 824 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,240 Speaker 1: and a bathroom in every in every hotel room because 825 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: that's what the consumers want. No. I think the free 826 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 1: market will take of this. Yeah, But what I see 827 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: happening is that people are much more inclined these days 828 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: to just pick up on the Bernie Sanders sound bite 829 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: that you know, we're just gonna have the government pay 830 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 1: for all of your health care, which is madness on 831 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: so that they run these polls and where it's you know, 832 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: like six Americans. I don't know if the polls are 833 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,880 Speaker 1: good or not, but you know, a big chunk of 834 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: Americans are saying, yeah, single pay or might not be 835 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 1: so bad? Do they know what it would cost? No? 836 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: Do they know they would definitely lose whatever plan they 837 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 1: currently have? No, or at least that's not factored into 838 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,600 Speaker 1: the poll. Meanwhile, on the other side, when you ask people, 839 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 1: why is Obamacare so bad? And I think this goes 840 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: to your point, and I think this is what this 841 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: is what you're writing about with when life gives you, 842 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: Paul Ryan make lemonade. Uh, we don't why is Obamacare 843 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 1: so bad? People are starting to think, well, if it 844 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: were so bad, wouldn't Republicans get rid of it? That's 845 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,720 Speaker 1: a really great point. Yeah, you're right, And I guess 846 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: I've always sort of figured this when when it comes 847 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: to health care, how hard it is for people to 848 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: understand freedom if they haven't seen it for while. And 849 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,799 Speaker 1: it's true that we haven't seen it for a while. 850 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: There's so many problems with health care. Um, I mean, 851 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 1: starting with the law that hospitals have to treat anybody 852 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 1: who shows up. That's that's a law of relatively recent vintage. 853 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: It used to But I know I have friends who 854 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: are doctors just who used to work in emergency rooms, 855 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: and they tell me, you know, back when they were 856 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: in residences doing their residencies. Every hospital in America had 857 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: right next to it the charity hospital. That was how 858 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: it worked, because now that's how now every hospital is 859 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,600 Speaker 1: a charity hospital. Yeah, that's how poor people get their 860 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 1: health care. Which is why you know, you taxpayer who 861 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: were paying for all that, um you get in the 862 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: car accident, you're going to be waiting behind twenty illegal aliens. 863 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 1: I was telling people actually went through this at the 864 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: eye hospital in New York where I actually had a 865 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: real eye issue that had to be dealt with right away, 866 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 1: and there are people going in for vision exams in 867 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 1: the er from the hospital. I'm like, well, what is 868 00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: and and by the way, I'm guessing that a good 869 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 1: amount of them we're probably not paying and we gotta 870 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 1: run into the break. But I really appreciate you joining 871 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,120 Speaker 1: and everybody if you haven't already audios America, which is 872 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: I think the single, the single written work most responsible 873 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: for Trump for better for worse, and be ready for 874 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: that Audios America. And also in Trump We Trust Eat 875 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: plurabus awesome which you should all check out. And Cult 876 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: are great to have you. Thanks so much. Good to 877 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: talk to team Hitting a break, will be right back 878 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:35,920 Speaker 1: with your thoughts and more. Stay with me. He's holding 879 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:42,080 Speaker 1: the line for America. Buck set in his back. 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And Facebook dot com slash buck 890 00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,439 Speaker 1: Sexton by the way, please as well another good place 891 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 1: for you to hang out with me at all the 892 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,240 Speaker 1: members of the Freedom Hunt both with me in studio 893 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: and also all across the country and as we know, 894 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: around the world. So I just wanted to note for 895 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 1: a second before I've promise you a discussion about class warfare, 896 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,720 Speaker 1: as that that's what the tax debate turns into and 897 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: and eventually I think Republicans will just take some minor, 898 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: some minor wins off the table, and it won't be 899 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,320 Speaker 1: really tax reform. It will be just some tax cuts 900 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: which will be temporary, and they will only exist as 901 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:49,560 Speaker 1: long as Republicans have a majority. So it's gonna keep 902 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: a little more cash in the pockets of some people. 903 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 1: And they'll be telling us all along. Well, I'm getting 904 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 1: ahead of myself, but I'll return to this into one second. 905 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 1: I wanted to note first, why don't I talk about 906 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,880 Speaker 1: Tom Price right before the right before we enter the 907 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: break there HHS Secretary Health and Human Services Secretary uh, 908 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: Because I wanted to note this is the kind of 909 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 1: self inflicted, self inflicted wound for the administration that they 910 00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 1: just can't be dealing with right now. And sure enough, 911 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,160 Speaker 1: you've got the East Coast based networks in It's well, 912 00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: it's TV prime time right now, and I have the 913 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: monitors on it here. I've got CNN, Fox. Oh, no, CNN, 914 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 1: I need to get Fox on it here. I just realized, 915 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 1: it's just it's just CNN, ESPN and MSNBC. What's going on. 916 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: It's like I'm in the gym in New York where 917 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:44,160 Speaker 1: they never the gym never has Fox on, always has MSNBC, 918 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 1: you know, because nothing gets me as excited about my 919 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 1: workout on the elliptical as a lecture about white privilege 920 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,719 Speaker 1: from Lawrence O'Donnell or Rachel matt out right, that's what 921 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: that's what really gets me going. It makes me burn 922 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 1: the extra calories. He's a main Yeah, maybe this is 923 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,239 Speaker 1: the kind of music that I listened to. Um, I 924 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 1: kicked I kick it to the old school stuff, you know, 925 00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: eighties and nineties. But I've got CNN on it here, 926 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 1: and they've got all they've been for the whole break 927 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: while we're just on a commercial break, and they've got 928 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,280 Speaker 1: a panel up there right now of of all folks 929 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:23,840 Speaker 1: whom I know from CNN experience, and and there, what 930 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 1: do you you think they're talking about? I can tell you 931 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: what they're not talking about there. They don't have a panel, 932 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: a discussion panel after a news segment, right. They do 933 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: hard news first with the anchor and then they got 934 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 1: to discussion panel. It's not about the Menendez trial, which 935 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,799 Speaker 1: I told you all about yesterday, doing favors for his 936 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: ninety million dollar fraudster buddy who's got you know, the 937 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,520 Speaker 1: international babe mobiles flying in from all over the world 938 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: with his you know girlfriends and uh you know they're 939 00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,960 Speaker 1: they're not talking about that story and how a Senate 940 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,759 Speaker 1: seat maybe up for abs the first senator in. I 941 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: gotta check with the timing. Let me know, well you 942 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: if it's if he's would be the first senator uh in, 943 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,200 Speaker 1: I think and I know it's over a hundred years. 944 00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,680 Speaker 1: I can remember. The exact time frame is to to 945 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 1: have been removed. Um, that's not interesting. What is interesting 946 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,480 Speaker 1: to them? Big banner right now? HHS secretary to right 947 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,760 Speaker 1: fifty dollar check for flights. Total cost to taxpayer reportedly 948 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: one million? Oh they you now, I know you don't 949 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: care about the story all that much. The reason I'm 950 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: telling you about it is because it shows you back 951 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,799 Speaker 1: to one of the core premises of this show that 952 00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,600 Speaker 1: news is a narrative. It's a construct. It's a series 953 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: of editorial decisions uh put together to create a narrative. 954 00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: And the HHS secretary now is is a big new 955 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, they're just going on, going with it and 956 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 1: going with it, just anything to beat up on the 957 00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: administration right now. So that's that's what we said, that 958 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,480 Speaker 1: are But let let's get into it doesn't really it 959 00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,719 Speaker 1: doesn't really matter, though maybe maybe price will be asked 960 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:12,360 Speaker 1: to step down. Maybe not uh taxes. I always wonder 961 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,319 Speaker 1: how much we need to discuss taxes here in the 962 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: in the Hut. I have a a particular disdain for 963 00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: the the I r S. Because in this country, the 964 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,640 Speaker 1: I R S has the ability not just to financially 965 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: ruin you, but to take away your freedom and and 966 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: is a fearsome federal organization that hasn't even existed all 967 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 1: that long we think about it. You know that there 968 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,280 Speaker 1: wasn't America before there was an internal Revenue Service. But 969 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: the I R S is able to lock you up, 970 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: put you through a tremendous amount of hardship, many lost 971 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: nights of sleep. And if at the end of it 972 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: all you were a good citizen doing your best to 973 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,040 Speaker 1: pay your taxes and and all the which are already 974 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: too high for those of you who are you who 975 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: are earners of one kind or another, whether a high earner, 976 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: middle income or low income orn or whatever. Maybe you're 977 00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: paying too much in taxes if you're paying taxes, because 978 00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: for one, you've got all the different consumption taxes that 979 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: already out there, state tax, and sales tax, all that, 980 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,840 Speaker 1: and then the moment that you're in the taxable brackets. 981 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:21,000 Speaker 1: So you're making enough money to be taxed, you're you're 982 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 1: paying a lot, and you add it all together and 983 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a big chunk of change. And it hurts 984 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 1: more at the lower end of the spectrum too, as 985 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 1: we understand. So, but I don't know how much it's 986 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: worthwhile to get into the details of the tax plan. 987 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: I give you a brief, brief rundown of some of 988 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: it today, other than to say that just like with healthcare, 989 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: where the Democrats offer you free, it's free. Healthcare will 990 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,200 Speaker 1: be free. Everything will be free. Do they have to 991 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,919 Speaker 1: explain themselves. No, not really, because they they're the good guys. 992 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 1: Because they want to give it to you free, only 993 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: the rich will pay. You can see how this translates 994 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 1: into the debate over taxes, where only the rich should 995 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 1: really pay, and any break is a break for the rich. 996 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: It's just class warfare. It's the politics of envy and resentment, 997 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: which are incredibly potent, very very powerful forces, as we know. 998 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,040 Speaker 1: And this is why you get some of this polling. 999 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 1: It says that people don't you know, majority of Americans 1000 00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,840 Speaker 1: I think was actually a Fox News poll, majority of 1001 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: Americans don't want a tax break or sorry, don't think 1002 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,720 Speaker 1: the rich that they want everyone wants a tax break. 1003 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 1: Don't think the rich should get a tax break. Don't 1004 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 1: believe the corporation should get a tax break. If what 1005 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 1: comes out of all of this, this negotiating with the 1006 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: Congress over taxes is anything that resembles corporations getting a break, 1007 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: and a big one, right because it's going from thirty, 1008 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 1: which is the current the current corporate tax rate. That's 1009 00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 1: a big jump. If I told you right now you're 1010 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 1: paying taxes, you know what, Now now you're gonna pay 1011 00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: you'd be like, wow, that's really big. But for that's 1012 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: for corporations. For individuals, well, here's what Economic advisor Gary 1013 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Cohne and Goldman Sachs alumni as an culture before we're 1014 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: talking about that, uh Goldman, I mean Goldman Sax advisor 1015 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: pardon me. Chief Economic advisor Gary Cone said the Falling 1016 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: play clip eleven. You know, we have to make some 1017 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: basic assumptions right now on where we're gonna end up 1018 01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,760 Speaker 1: with with with the brackets. But I'll tell you, based 1019 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: on our assumptions, a typical family earning a hundred thousand 1020 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,440 Speaker 1: dollars with two children that has been a standard deductor 1021 01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: who uses the standard deduction, continues to use the standard deduction, 1022 01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: they can expect a tax cut of about a thousand dollars. 1023 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: That's nice, that's helpful, But if you're making a hundred grand, 1024 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars is not life changing. As everyone listening 1025 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 1: to the show already knows and say, it's not life changing. 1026 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: It's clearly an overstatement. It's not even really budget changing. It. 1027 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: It would be nice, but it won't change all that much. Um. 1028 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 1: That's why I worry that you could see a huge 1029 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 1: corporate tax break, whether the economic sense is that. You know, 1030 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,680 Speaker 1: whether economically speaking, that's a good move or not. And 1031 01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: I think it is a good move, But you gotta 1032 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 1: look at how this is going to be portrayed, because 1033 01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: that thousand dollar tax break that you may get that 1034 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Republicans put out there now might only last a year. 1035 01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 1: My friends, if it looks like the American people are 1036 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: getting the short end of the stick while the corporations 1037 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,520 Speaker 1: that the Democrats always make it sound like the Republicans 1038 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: are so tied to that Republicans are the corporatist party, 1039 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,920 Speaker 1: and there's some truth to that, but Democrats are just 1040 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: as corporate as too. It's money, it's power. Both political 1041 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: parties want want those things. They want power, they want money. 1042 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 1: I think you could argue that some of the biggest corporation, 1043 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:57,120 Speaker 1: the most powerful corporations in America today, aren't just democrat. 1044 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean they are progressive evangelists. They are hard left. Facebook, Google, 1045 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: name one can give me a big one. Give me 1046 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: a major media conglomerate, you know other than Fox. And 1047 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,680 Speaker 1: give me a major media conglomerate. You'll see that they 1048 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 1: are leftist in there. You know, the only places where 1049 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: you see some conservatism. And there's Walmart, the Walton family, 1050 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:24,120 Speaker 1: there's big manufact oh, Amazon, Bezos left wing guy, very 1051 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: smart guy, but left wing guy. But if Republicans are 1052 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,120 Speaker 1: blamed for this in the end, if it turns into 1053 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 1: look they just did the bidding of their corporate masters, 1054 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 1: we can have a rough time in the midterms and 1055 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: then the Democrats will come in. They'll just raise the 1056 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 1: taxes that Republicans. That's why it's a tax cut and 1057 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,200 Speaker 1: not tax reform. Reform would be bold reform, would be 1058 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: sweeping reform. Is you know, there's a twenty tax rate 1059 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: on individuals and a ten percent tax rate on individual. 1060 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,360 Speaker 1: So we're getting pretty close to a flat tax here. 1061 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 1: And that's it. No deductions except for charity. And you know, 1062 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: I know people like the home interest deduction for UH 1063 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: for mortgages, but home mortgage deduction at home, you know 1064 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, That you can deduct the interest 1065 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: you pay for you more. Um, I don't own a home, 1066 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: so I don't. I hear wonderful stories about this deduction, 1067 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 1: but I've never experienced it myself. But that's it, And 1068 01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 1: that reform would be bold enough that I think you 1069 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:26,720 Speaker 1: could look at any improvements or any enlargement in the 1070 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: economy and growth in economic activity and better employment, better jobs, 1071 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: all of that. If you do something bold, then it's 1072 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:37,439 Speaker 1: a clear case this was the right thing to do. 1073 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,800 Speaker 1: If you take these little steps, they're just gonna erase 1074 01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,520 Speaker 1: those little steps in the future. It's not enough. It's 1075 01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:46,480 Speaker 1: not gonna be enough. And you know that the Democrats 1076 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: are going to demand a lot in or at least 1077 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:51,840 Speaker 1: as much as they can get. They're gonna demand a lot. 1078 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how much they'll get in these negotiations. 1079 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: Trump says he's a great negotiator, but this is gonna 1080 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,000 Speaker 1: be done in the Congress, they're gonna say, Okay, Republicans, 1081 01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: your backs are up against the wall. We know the 1082 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: midterms are coming, and if you can't get legislation through 1083 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: and you have a majority in both houses and the 1084 01:04:07,080 --> 01:04:11,840 Speaker 1: and the presidency. Yeah. One of my favorite office space lines, 1085 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,120 Speaker 1: what would you say you do here? It's a valid question. 1086 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 1: What do they do if they represent not just a 1087 01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,480 Speaker 1: status quo but a business as usual? Why turn up? 1088 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:27,880 Speaker 1: Why care? We we can, we can continue the current trajectory, 1089 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:33,800 Speaker 1: which is more spending, bigger debt, more government, more intrusions 1090 01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 1: into your workplace and into your life, and more concentration 1091 01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 1: of power into the hands of bureaucrats in d C. 1092 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 1: And the elected representatives who pretend to be different from 1093 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 1: the bureaucrats but really aren't all that different from them, 1094 01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 1: have a lot of the same inclinations and the same 1095 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 1: government first ideology. So I don't know how much the 1096 01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 1: attacks debate. I don't know how much of it you 1097 01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 1: find valid right now, or or worth better than valid, worthwhile, 1098 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't know because we don't know what the rates 1099 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,440 Speaker 1: will be. Yeah, I think the government having here, here's 1100 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,200 Speaker 1: some core principles on this right or baseline ideas not 1101 01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: really core principles, baseline ideas lower taxes. In general, better 1102 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: government should have the BA the bare minimum of of 1103 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:28,520 Speaker 1: money necessary to engage in the only clearly defined, constitutionally 1104 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:31,040 Speaker 1: valid functions of the government. But we are miles away 1105 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: from that too. So it's hard because until we all 1106 01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,520 Speaker 1: you can't just do the one without the other. Right, 1107 01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: until we push back against a federal government that tries 1108 01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,080 Speaker 1: to do far too much and does far too much poorly, 1109 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 1: you're going to have a compulsion and a compelling argument 1110 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,280 Speaker 1: to be made that it needs to be funded, that 1111 01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 1: they have to take your money. And the response, as 1112 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,240 Speaker 1: you'll get from Democrats all along, it's just the the 1113 01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,960 Speaker 1: Republicans just want to help the rich. They just want 1114 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 1: to help the rich, rich people. Well, the top tent 1115 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:07,280 Speaker 1: what is the numbers? I should check myself on these, 1116 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: but these are basically right. The top ten percent of 1117 01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:13,400 Speaker 1: owners pay like fifty percent of the taxes and or 1118 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 1: might even maybe ninety percent. I forget, I mean, it's 1119 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,240 Speaker 1: a huge forget forget my numbers. I'm just I'm throwing 1120 01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:21,439 Speaker 1: them out at you without going at them right now. 1121 01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: But the top ten percent of owners pay a huge 1122 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:28,160 Speaker 1: a huge proportion, a huge proportion of the taxes um 1123 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,760 Speaker 1: and and even the top one percent of owners actually 1124 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,960 Speaker 1: pay a large percentage overall of the tax burden. So 1125 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 1: any tax break that's gonna affect it's gonna affect them too. 1126 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: But this it just turns into a class warfare theme 1127 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,640 Speaker 1: and that that becomes the story, whether the macro economic 1128 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,120 Speaker 1: benefits of a cut in the corporate tax Already, I 1129 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 1: can I can feel I'm worried, like some of you 1130 01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: might be driving and I don't want you to pass 1131 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,400 Speaker 1: out and you know, being being danger because we're talking 1132 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 1: about taxes, right, I mean, this is you know, how 1133 01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,000 Speaker 1: how much will this change America? How much will change 1134 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 1: your life? If they were talking about a flat tax overall, 1135 01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:09,360 Speaker 1: I'd say, okay, that that's that's pretty radical. But incremental 1136 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,080 Speaker 1: change to taxation right now is not going to be 1137 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,880 Speaker 1: is not going to be enough to make our lives 1138 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: all that much better. It's not gonna be enough for Republicans, 1139 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: I think, to keep there are majorities in the House 1140 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 1: and the Senate, and ultimately it's just given a little 1141 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,880 Speaker 1: cash to people now that they're going to lose in 1142 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: the future when the Democrats take power. By saying, see, 1143 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:31,760 Speaker 1: they just give money the fat cats. Whether it's true 1144 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 1: or not, they won't care. All right, Team I, I 1145 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: can't talk about numbers and just go blovity blavity blah. 1146 01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: That's that's not unfair. So I'll get I've looked them up. 1147 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to just but I was close. I 1148 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: was basically right. You know hashtag thinks he's always right. No, 1149 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 1: but the top ten of earners pay according to the 1150 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Daily Signal here pays fifty I said fifty past of 1151 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:02,520 Speaker 1: all federal taxes, the top one percent of all federal 1152 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,720 Speaker 1: income taxes. I was, I was, I was basically right. 1153 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I wasn't right, but I was basically right. 1154 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:12,160 Speaker 1: All right. Every line is, let's let's take some calls here, 1155 01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 1: because I know I got a lot of folks that 1156 01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: want to talk, and I love hearing from all of you, 1157 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,919 Speaker 1: so thank you so much for that. Let's get Tom 1158 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:25,000 Speaker 1: in Ohio w w v A, what's up, Tom, good 1159 01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:29,080 Speaker 1: evening book? Um, First, taxes are concerned. UM, I do 1160 01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 1: have some concerns on the corporate level and on the 1161 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,160 Speaker 1: inheritance tax. I think the devil's in the details across 1162 01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: the board. But as far as the corporate tax is concerned, 1163 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 1: they want to take it down from thirty to thirty 1164 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 1: five whatever it is now done a fifteen or twenty, 1165 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 1: I'd say, uh, drop it by five across the board, No, 1166 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: no hitch strings attached. If you want it lower than that, 1167 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 1: then you have to show that you're either creating jobs, 1168 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 1: or creating better jobs, or creating full time jobs from 1169 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 1: part time jobs. This idea of well, it may stimulate 1170 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 1: the econ I mean no, I don't buy that. You know, 1171 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:04,680 Speaker 1: we did that with the uh sequests or not the 1172 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,920 Speaker 1: sequestion uh que one and QUI two and uh the 1173 01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 1: whole idea of the banks getting money and they just 1174 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 1: sat on it and corporations uh uh you know for 1175 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 1: for a number of months there, even as the economy 1176 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:20,280 Speaker 1: was stabilizing. We're just sitting on uh their money or 1177 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,599 Speaker 1: buying back their own stock. So I think that's a 1178 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,160 Speaker 1: major concern. As far as that's been mine, I just 1179 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,479 Speaker 1: want to jump in for one second time because you're 1180 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,759 Speaker 1: you're an Areadie fellow and you're making some excellent points. 1181 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 1: This this idea that a lower corporate tax rate is 1182 01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: necessarily going to whether it's good in the long run, 1183 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 1: or not putting that aside for a second, that the 1184 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: folks who vote for Trump or the people on the 1185 01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,760 Speaker 1: ride who believe in lower taxation and more income in 1186 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,719 Speaker 1: private hands, that they would feel the benefits of that. 1187 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's that immediate. Well, that's why there 1188 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,639 Speaker 1: should be a string attached that that, you know, in 1189 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:56,719 Speaker 1: order to get it after a certain you know, maybe 1190 01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,400 Speaker 1: across the board five percent, but you have to work 1191 01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 1: for the rest of you. You You have to some ways 1192 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:06,320 Speaker 1: prove that you are creating jobs and helping the economy. Uh. 1193 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,599 Speaker 1: Then the other thing is as far as inheritance tax 1194 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,720 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't like that idea of 1195 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: dropping the inherance tacks I do. I don't like the 1196 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,719 Speaker 1: idea of dynasty's. I don't like the idea. You know this, 1197 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: this country is built on the idea of work ethic 1198 01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 1: and anybody could attain that level by hard work. Uh. 1199 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:37,240 Speaker 1: To me, in inheritance is winning the lottery. He's back 1200 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 1: with you now, because when it comes to the fight 1201 01:10:39,720 --> 01:10:44,880 Speaker 1: for truth, the fuck never stops. All right, seeming, welcome back. 1202 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: It's great to have you here in the Freedom Hut. 1203 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: We've got Kevin Williamson on the line. He is the 1204 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:56,560 Speaker 1: roving correspondent for National Review. His latest is nick Healthcare Deluxe. 1205 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: The Affordable Care Act is a failed political product. It's 1206 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: hard to admit you wrong. Democrats are going to need 1207 01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:06,000 Speaker 1: some help with that, Kevin, Thanks for making the time. Hey, Buck, 1208 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,680 Speaker 1: how you doing good? Good? So where are we on 1209 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,919 Speaker 1: healthcare right now? I'm worried and I was talking earlier 1210 01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 1: about this before you came on that. You know, Republicans 1211 01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,639 Speaker 1: have been telling us for years not only they'll repeal 1212 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,240 Speaker 1: and replace this thing, but also that it is a 1213 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 1: job destroying healthcare crushing, uh, disaster for all Americans, and 1214 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: then when they can do something, they don't. So how 1215 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: bad can I think a normal person could be looking 1216 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 1: at the situation say how bad can it really be? Well, 1217 01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:36,920 Speaker 1: they're half right, I mean it is a mess, but 1218 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 1: they're not I think so far all that's serious about 1219 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,200 Speaker 1: repealing replacing it. And there are a couple of reasons 1220 01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,400 Speaker 1: for that. Uh. One is that there's not strong agreement 1221 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,839 Speaker 1: within the Republican conference about what they want to replace 1222 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 1: it with. And secondly, the thing they don't want talking 1223 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 1: about as much is the basic architecture of Obamacare, which 1224 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 1: is to say, the pre existing conditions rule, the individual mandate, 1225 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,839 Speaker 1: and the regulations to go along with that, or largely 1226 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 1: things that they like. They don't like the mandate, but 1227 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,960 Speaker 1: they like the pre existing conditions coverage, which requires the mandate, 1228 01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 1: and uh so if you're gonna have that, you're gonna 1229 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: have something like Obamacare. So where we are right now 1230 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: is essentially we're right back in or this law has 1231 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,680 Speaker 1: been inactives on the books. Republicans don't like it, they 1232 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,599 Speaker 1: don't have much of a plan to do anything different 1233 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 1: with it, but they'll calling today. What it's about, though, 1234 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 1: is that we have to start the conversation from the 1235 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 1: right place, which is that we've had the Affordable Care 1236 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,439 Speaker 1: Act for a while now, and what we know about 1237 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:35,920 Speaker 1: it beyond a doubt, is that it doesn't work. I mean, 1238 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 1: there are certain promises that were made on behalf of 1239 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:42,439 Speaker 1: this law that it would reduce premiums by family on average, 1240 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,760 Speaker 1: that it would lead to more competition and better health 1241 01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 1: care plans, and that it would at least move us 1242 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 1: along ways toward universal coverage. These were the big promises 1243 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: made on behalf of that bill, and it stail on 1244 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,800 Speaker 1: every one of this fronts um premiums. Of course, you're 1245 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,639 Speaker 1: much harder than they were. The markets are now less 1246 01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,960 Speaker 1: competed at if lots of people don't have any choice 1247 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,920 Speaker 1: about health insurance providers any more, very limited number of choices. 1248 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,839 Speaker 1: And really it's only extended insurance at least through sixteen 1249 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,400 Speaker 1: to about sixteen and a half million people, and almost 1250 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:17,600 Speaker 1: all of that was additional medicaid in rules. So you 1251 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 1: can say, well, the Republicans don't have a very good plan. 1252 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 1: The plans they come up with, you know, aren't very impressive, 1253 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,760 Speaker 1: and that stuff is all true. But the fundamental thing 1254 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,640 Speaker 1: that you have to start within the conversation is that 1255 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 1: we know about this bill now, we know about the 1256 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,840 Speaker 1: system that's created, and it simply doesn't work. It hasn't 1257 01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 1: delivered all the promises that were made on its behalf. 1258 01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,720 Speaker 1: So it's time to really, you know, start again on it, 1259 01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 1: I think, and how what would be a constructive way 1260 01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 1: to do that? I mean, I follow you on on Twitter, 1261 01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,160 Speaker 1: and you're someone who can actually delve into I think 1262 01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:51,280 Speaker 1: one of the most common responses you'll hear from the 1263 01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 1: from the a lot of people on the level, lot 1264 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:58,559 Speaker 1: of Democrats, including the Bernie Sanders crowd is, well, look 1265 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,599 Speaker 1: what they do and and then and you know, insert 1266 01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: orderly and and seemingly pleasant European country, right, I mean 1267 01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:07,600 Speaker 1: not all of them, but you know what, you know 1268 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,640 Speaker 1: what you what I hate about that particularly line of 1269 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: argument is they talk about every other country. Well, you 1270 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,280 Speaker 1: know what, if you look at the various countries just 1271 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 1: to Western Europe, there are a lot of different approaches 1272 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 1: to healthcare. If you look at Canada, the United Kingdom, 1273 01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 1: Western Europe, and the developed nations of Asia, you've got 1274 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,280 Speaker 1: a lot of different approaches to healthcare. So you have 1275 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,519 Speaker 1: an actually fairly small number of countries that have national 1276 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,440 Speaker 1: single payer systems, and those are the United Kingdom, in Canada, Australia, 1277 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,840 Speaker 1: and mostly the English speaking countries. What most countries have 1278 01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:43,800 Speaker 1: is a combination of insurance mandates, subsidies, and uh in 1279 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,400 Speaker 1: various kinds of regulation to try to make that stuff 1280 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 1: work out. But you know, it's radically different from country 1281 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,440 Speaker 1: to country. Germany has a very different system. In Switzerland 1282 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 1: does Switzerland is a very different system from Singapore. Singapore 1283 01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,000 Speaker 1: is very different from Japan. So when they say, well, 1284 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:58,439 Speaker 1: we're the only country in the world that does it, 1285 01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,799 Speaker 1: this way. Well, that's actually prob to a lot of countries. Now, 1286 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,280 Speaker 1: one of the things Republicans have always run into that 1287 01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 1: they hurt themselves with is that they are kind of 1288 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: reflective defenders of this status quo. And there's a lot 1289 01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,880 Speaker 1: of things people didn't like about the health care system 1290 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:14,879 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, which is why Barack Obama 1291 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 1: was elected in part to to change that. Um So, 1292 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:20,639 Speaker 1: just saying we have or had the best health care 1293 01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:22,479 Speaker 1: system in the world isn't enough. There are things need 1294 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,280 Speaker 1: to be changed, but it's not as though all of 1295 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:28,080 Speaker 1: Western Europe doesn't one way or all the rest of 1296 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,880 Speaker 1: the developed world does it one way. And the things 1297 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: that the Democrats tend to talk about are actually not 1298 01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,760 Speaker 1: things that are typically done in most other countries. So 1299 01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,720 Speaker 1: if you want to talk about doing something saying more 1300 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:40,559 Speaker 1: like the way they do it in Switzerland or more 1301 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: like they do it in Sweden, yeah you can have 1302 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:44,559 Speaker 1: that conversation, but you know, most people on the left 1303 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 1: don't actually know how to do it in those countries. Yeah, 1304 01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:50,479 Speaker 1: it just it sounds good, right like Switzerland, Sweden, people 1305 01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,320 Speaker 1: there seem happy with their health care based on nothing 1306 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 1: I saw. Chris Hayes. He mentioned Switzerland, and they are 1307 01:15:58,720 --> 01:16:00,320 Speaker 1: happy with their health care there, and they both of 1308 01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,080 Speaker 1: those countries have pretty good healthcare systems that work for them. 1309 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 1: If you ask your average Bernie Sanders vote or what 1310 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 1: they do there, they'll think it's single pair or something 1311 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: like that, but that's not really how it works. Switzerland 1312 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,760 Speaker 1: has kind of a better version of the Affordable Care 1313 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,040 Speaker 1: Act system with mandates and subsidies in the private insurance 1314 01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:21,120 Speaker 1: system and all that. Sweden, which most people don't understand 1315 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,439 Speaker 1: it's about Sweden has it has a very big public sector, 1316 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:28,160 Speaker 1: but it's also really uh decentralized, So most of this 1317 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,599 Speaker 1: stuff happens that the what would be the county level. 1318 01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Essentially in Sweden, little calm counties there are the municipal level, 1319 01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 1: so in terms of having a national healthcare program, they 1320 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,120 Speaker 1: didn't really have one of those at all. So and 1321 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,040 Speaker 1: that's where we run into a lot of problems too. 1322 01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 1: That we want to pass one big, dramatic bill that's 1323 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,280 Speaker 1: going to solve everything healthcare related in the country for 1324 01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 1: generation for all time to come, and that's just a 1325 01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,080 Speaker 1: really foolish way to go about doing it, because we're 1326 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,599 Speaker 1: a really big, complicated country. With two hundred or three 1327 01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three million people and fifty states, and 1328 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: they're in economies from place to place, in different cultures 1329 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 1: from place to place, in different ways of doing things. Now, Sweden, 1330 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,640 Speaker 1: which is a relatively small and homogeneous country, sees the 1331 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,720 Speaker 1: value of saying, well, let's let you know, the municipalities 1332 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,559 Speaker 1: do it differently. Let's let the individual regions try out 1333 01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: different things, and maybe a big, complicated country like ours 1334 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: to learn something from out as well. We're speaking of 1335 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,680 Speaker 1: Kevin Williamson, who's roving correspondent for National Review. You can 1336 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 1: check out his latest Healthcare Deluxe on National review dot com. Kevin, 1337 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:31,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned the areas that people weren't happy within two 1338 01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,960 Speaker 1: thousand and eight when it comes to American healthcare and 1339 01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,800 Speaker 1: our system. What would be if we were to take 1340 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 1: the approach now of what should be changed and what's 1341 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:45,439 Speaker 1: possible to change for Republicans, what would be the first 1342 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:49,200 Speaker 1: things that come to mind? Well, I mean um and 1343 01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,560 Speaker 1: and it has to be the possible right, because I 1344 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:52,680 Speaker 1: would I would love to be in a in a 1345 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,599 Speaker 1: free market paradise where healthcare is paid for credit cards 1346 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:58,559 Speaker 1: that in this competition. But we're we're very far from 1347 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,719 Speaker 1: that right now, as you know. But just the purposes 1348 01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,720 Speaker 1: of our analogy or discussion, yeah, that's not not very likely. 1349 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,400 Speaker 1: I think. Let me answer the question in a slightly 1350 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,160 Speaker 1: different way what the Republicans probably should have said back 1351 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,519 Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight two thousand nine, rather than 1352 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:12,200 Speaker 1: just stomping their feet and saying we have the best 1353 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,439 Speaker 1: health care system in the world. What would that people 1354 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:19,320 Speaker 1: didn't like? Well, one was insecurity about employer based programs. 1355 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:22,160 Speaker 1: So if you've got insurance through your job and you 1356 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,640 Speaker 1: lose your job, you also lose your insurance, and you 1357 01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,519 Speaker 1: lose your insurance right at the time when you're least 1358 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 1: able to afford doing something like that because you've also 1359 01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 1: lost your job, So you've got two hardships instead of one. 1360 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,959 Speaker 1: So having a system that moves people away from employer 1361 01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,320 Speaker 1: based plans into other kinds of group based plans that 1362 01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,880 Speaker 1: they can keep as a move from place to place 1363 01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,680 Speaker 1: and move from job to job would have been a 1364 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,439 Speaker 1: step in the right direction. And that's not a terribly 1365 01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 1: difficult fix. I mean, you can do group plans outside 1366 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,320 Speaker 1: of employment. There's all sorts of ways to do that. 1367 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,040 Speaker 1: There's all sorts of associations and organizations that can put 1368 01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 1: things like that together. One of the other things that 1369 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:02,559 Speaker 1: with it, even then, uh, premiums were going up, and 1370 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,479 Speaker 1: they were going up quickly, and uh, addressing that is 1371 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 1: a little more difficult. I think, Uh, there are things 1372 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,439 Speaker 1: that you could do in terms of increasing competition that 1373 01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 1: would be helped and cleep. In terms of reducing lignsary requirements, 1374 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, being able to sell across state lines and 1375 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,320 Speaker 1: national lines for all I care. I think it would 1376 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,960 Speaker 1: be a reasonably to do too. Um, So you've got 1377 01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:30,200 Speaker 1: those two things that were big sources of anxiety for people, 1378 01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,240 Speaker 1: and stepping in and moving to do something to fix 1379 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,599 Speaker 1: those things would have been a relatively easy thing to do. 1380 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,120 Speaker 1: And then once you've got people into an actual functional 1381 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,479 Speaker 1: individual marketplace by moving them out of employment employer based plans, 1382 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,519 Speaker 1: then you have a chance to really let something emerge 1383 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 1: in something more like a consumer driven, market oriented system. 1384 01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,400 Speaker 1: This isn't a stay. We're just going to privatize it tomorrow, 1385 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:52,840 Speaker 1: and there aren't going to be the subsidies and there's 1386 01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 1: gonna be new regulation that kind of stuff, because that's 1387 01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's an iron ran fantasy. But you can 1388 01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,720 Speaker 1: certainly move things in that direction, while actually the addressing 1389 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,360 Speaker 1: the legitimate anxieties and unhappiness that people had with the 1390 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 1: healthcare system as it existed in two thousand and eight, 1391 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:09,400 Speaker 1: two thousand nine. Now we do we have a new, 1392 01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:13,280 Speaker 1: separate and in some ways worse set of problems. What 1393 01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,960 Speaker 1: do you make of the promise that because the only 1394 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:20,000 Speaker 1: the only corporate are the only tax rate change that 1395 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,639 Speaker 1: I think I would bet money on at this point 1396 01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,120 Speaker 1: is it will be a change to the corporate tax rate. 1397 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,680 Speaker 1: And the argument I know is is that this will 1398 01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:29,559 Speaker 1: lead to this will lead to growth, and it's going 1399 01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,960 Speaker 1: to be great, and you know that this will this 1400 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 1: will be a big piece of making America great again. 1401 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:38,960 Speaker 1: You could say, how, how true is that really? Just 1402 01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,479 Speaker 1: on the corporate tax rate side. Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical 1403 01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,000 Speaker 1: about that sort of thing. I mean, so, we have 1404 01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:49,479 Speaker 1: a really high corporate tax rate on paper by world standards, 1405 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 1: and that's true. We should probably do something about that, 1406 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,559 Speaker 1: But our effective corporate tax rate is actually not that 1407 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,920 Speaker 1: unusual compared to most other countries. So, like a lot 1408 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,680 Speaker 1: of things, you know, what you as form where you 1409 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 1: get our separate things. So we've got rates that are 1410 01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,719 Speaker 1: very high. But we have lots of exclusions and special 1411 01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 1: programs and discounts and things to encourage manufacturing or green 1412 01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:13,040 Speaker 1: energy or various kinds of things, and so a lot 1413 01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:14,840 Speaker 1: of companies end up paying a lot less than what 1414 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,599 Speaker 1: you would think based on what the nominal notional rate 1415 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 1: is UM. So reducing that rate while um getting rid 1416 01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 1: of some of the exclusions and special programs and tax 1417 01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:33,920 Speaker 1: code giveaways might not actually result in corporate taxes going down. UM. Now, 1418 01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,360 Speaker 1: a lower rate probably would give some incentive for companies 1419 01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,960 Speaker 1: like Apple and other companies that do a lot of 1420 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,720 Speaker 1: international business that have a lot of unrepatriated profits to 1421 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,880 Speaker 1: do something about that because they're in a position where 1422 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:48,400 Speaker 1: they actually are going to pay that right and they 1423 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,519 Speaker 1: don't want to pay, you know, they don't want to 1424 01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: take that bigger chunk. So it would be possibly something 1425 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:56,559 Speaker 1: that could be done with that. But you know, I 1426 01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 1: think it's as a conservative, I don't like to bet 1427 01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,559 Speaker 1: on things like that. You know. Um, we've had growth 1428 01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 1: to look like not very good for the last ten years. 1429 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,600 Speaker 1: UM it's looking a little better right now this quarter anyway, 1430 01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:10,479 Speaker 1: But to say we're going to embark on this very 1431 01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:15,080 Speaker 1: expensive uh tax cut agenda that will add a whole 1432 01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:19,280 Speaker 1: lot to the deficit if that growth doesn't come. Is, 1433 01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 1: I think, a fairly risking way of doing things when 1434 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:24,080 Speaker 1: there's a pretty good alternative, which is to offset the 1435 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,679 Speaker 1: cost of tax cuts with spending cuts. Um. Now, that's 1436 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,360 Speaker 1: not always an easy thing to do because we spend 1437 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,679 Speaker 1: money on things that tend to be popular. Yeah, people 1438 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,680 Speaker 1: don't like spending cuts, Kevin. But in the long rum, 1439 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to make those spending cuts anyway. Everyone 1440 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,559 Speaker 1: knows this, and so it's security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the 1441 01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 1: rest of their unsustainable physical paths. So it's a lot 1442 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,720 Speaker 1: easier to do it now before things are actually in 1443 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:47,680 Speaker 1: a crisis, when you have some choices and you can 1444 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:50,120 Speaker 1: do it in their own timeline, rather than, say, way 1445 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 1: twenty or twenty five years, when you're in some sort 1446 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,920 Speaker 1: of fiscal crisis, you just have no choice and you 1447 01:22:53,960 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 1: have to do it. Kevin Williamson willing to tell everybody 1448 01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,559 Speaker 1: that there is in fact no Santa Claus, Kevin. Great 1449 01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,280 Speaker 1: to have. Thank you, Thank you for joining Kevin from 1450 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,880 Speaker 1: National Review. Everybody, alright, team, I've got a lot of 1451 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,080 Speaker 1: lines lit up in the Freedom Hut so let's take 1452 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,240 Speaker 1: something called tom in Ohio and w w V. I 1453 01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:13,439 Speaker 1: so sorry I've cut you off before, my friend, I 1454 01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:15,600 Speaker 1: got my wires crossed there for a second. We'll let 1455 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,880 Speaker 1: you finish your thoughts on taxis, especially now we've had 1456 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Way and what do you think? Yeah, well, two things. 1457 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,880 Speaker 1: First of all, I also want to touch you on 1458 01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,080 Speaker 1: healthcare if I can. But uh, as far as the 1459 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:28,680 Speaker 1: taxes are as I mentioned, there were two things. One 1460 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,719 Speaker 1: of the business and that I've already covered, but also 1461 01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 1: the inheritance tax. I think we had to keep that 1462 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:38,040 Speaker 1: because quite frankly, um, you know, the the idea that 1463 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,880 Speaker 1: you get to inherit everything from the works of Yeah, okay, 1464 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:43,400 Speaker 1: so I remember this point you're making. Isn't that a 1465 01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:45,600 Speaker 1: little isn't that a little social justice? He isn't that 1466 01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 1: a little pay your fair share? Though? I mean, I 1467 01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,280 Speaker 1: know it's only on the state's over five million, But 1468 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,439 Speaker 1: you know what if you're on a big farm, a 1469 01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:55,040 Speaker 1: lot of land, well, if you're on a farm and 1470 01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 1: and and and you know, the idea here is that 1471 01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:03,519 Speaker 1: if it's most farms are uh business big business today anyway, Yeah, 1472 01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 1: I know, the far the far thing is kind of 1473 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 1: a red herring. But I'm just I'm trying to be difficult. 1474 01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 1: From my perspective, it's more a matter of there there 1475 01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 1: is an allowance there. I know, for uh, the stable, 1476 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 1: Ohio for example, anything up to a million bucks. I 1477 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 1: think it is that, uh, there isn't any attacks on 1478 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 1: it on a federal level. If you want to put 1479 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,519 Speaker 1: something like that in, I guess fine, But I still 1480 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:25,880 Speaker 1: think that, uh, at some point you have to say, no, 1481 01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:29,120 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be the lottery because, uh, you know, 1482 01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:34,680 Speaker 1: the whole idea of a capitalistic society is it's competitive, 1483 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,000 Speaker 1: is that it's earned as opposed to pass down and 1484 01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:42,280 Speaker 1: given to I think I think some capitalists listening would 1485 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,800 Speaker 1: say that private property is private property, and you can 1486 01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 1: give it to anyone in your family that you want. Tom. 1487 01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm keeping it real. That's what I do here. 1488 01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,439 Speaker 1: And we just can we move to healthcare though, because 1489 01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 1: we also we've got like five five lines. Let go ahead. 1490 01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,720 Speaker 1: No problems on the healthcare. We're looking at from the 1491 01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,919 Speaker 1: wrong point of view. We're looking at the national electric 1492 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,080 Speaker 1: bill and saying, how are we gonna pay for this? 1493 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:03,800 Speaker 1: How are we going to pay for this? When we 1494 01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,840 Speaker 1: should be saying, how can we do we reduce the 1495 01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,559 Speaker 1: size of the bill, and then I mean, you know, 1496 01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:12,120 Speaker 1: switching to L E D S insteady condescen, switching to 1497 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:15,519 Speaker 1: energy efficient appliances. And that's the approach we need to 1498 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,479 Speaker 1: take with healthcare and then see what the bill will 1499 01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:23,080 Speaker 1: be in order to determine how we're gonna pay for it. Alrighty, Tom, 1500 01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:24,880 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your patience and for your 1501 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:26,720 Speaker 1: very excellent call. So are great to have you as 1502 01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:31,000 Speaker 1: part of team Buck Shield time. John up in Alaska, 1503 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: k E N. I love my Alaska keeps what's going on? John? Yeah, Hey, Buck, 1504 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:40,200 Speaker 1: I really appreciate you having wolves see on about the MPs. 1505 01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:43,200 Speaker 1: You just don't know how hard it is to explain 1506 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,519 Speaker 1: it to people. They just think they don't you can't 1507 01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,080 Speaker 1: see them, and so they just don't think it's there. 1508 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 1: But the history is when we did the Bikinian and 1509 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,080 Speaker 1: wakes out blast waves went all the way to Hawaiian 1510 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 1: knock out transformers, and these are real things and we 1511 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,160 Speaker 1: have to worry about at I mean, this is a 1512 01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:03,640 Speaker 1: he's a former CIA director and he's saying that the 1513 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,160 Speaker 1: science is clear. It's just a question of the capability 1514 01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 1: and the will to use such a device. Right, that's right, 1515 01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 1: and it's the will is out there. Um Iran is 1516 01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:16,480 Speaker 1: doing satellites exactly what he was saying. Another good individual 1517 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 1: is Dr Peter Vincent pry p r Y. He's on 1518 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:23,840 Speaker 1: he has been talking till he's blew in the face. 1519 01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,840 Speaker 1: He's on the Congressional committee for E M p S. 1520 01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,400 Speaker 1: Nobody's looking at it, and like I said, it's a 1521 01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,200 Speaker 1: Billy Mitchell moment. He said, you know, we can bomb 1522 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,160 Speaker 1: ships with aircraft and sing, oh no, no, that will 1523 01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,840 Speaker 1: never happen. He even did a demonstration on an old 1524 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,080 Speaker 1: German battleship in the sunk and they said, oh no, 1525 01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 1: never gonna happen. He predicted Pearl Harbor and they said, 1526 01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,639 Speaker 1: oh no, they couldn't sink the main battleship sitting in there. 1527 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:51,360 Speaker 1: But he did get him to make aircraft carriers. And 1528 01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,160 Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. This is why 1529 01:26:53,200 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: I said, build the wall is a building a charity cage. 1530 01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,800 Speaker 1: We can store the things in there. I mean at 1531 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,200 Speaker 1: this storage place. What does that hurt? Well, we have 1532 01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:07,439 Speaker 1: our transformers protected, we'll have our technology protected, we'll have 1533 01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,799 Speaker 1: our machinery protected. That could get us out of it quickly. 1534 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:15,760 Speaker 1: Right about death three. That's incredible, and we're not doing 1535 01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:19,160 Speaker 1: the darned thing. And remember it's not just an e 1536 01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 1: MP burst over the earth. It is we have had 1537 01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:27,439 Speaker 1: on earth natural solar flares or coronal injections that have 1538 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 1: done the exact same thing, and it could hit the 1539 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,719 Speaker 1: whole earth. And all I know is I want to survive, 1540 01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 1: and I think it's a good idea having a wall 1541 01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,840 Speaker 1: that hasn't the ability to be a fairday cage. I 1542 01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 1: would want to survive too, So I probably we'll have 1543 01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 1: a director, a former director wolves you back on at 1544 01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,639 Speaker 1: some point talk more about this, and John, I appreciate 1545 01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:49,200 Speaker 1: your patience. I can see your on hold for a bit. 1546 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 1: Shield Sie, my friend. Thank you very much. Mac in 1547 01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,599 Speaker 1: Texas listening on the I Heart app. Hello, hey, box, 1548 01:27:56,640 --> 01:27:59,080 Speaker 1: shield Tie. How are you Mac? I'm good, Matt, thank 1549 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 1: you for holding. What's up? Okay. One of those talk 1550 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 1: about taxes and the propaganda coup that the Republicans could 1551 01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:12,080 Speaker 1: have with this is to say we're going to abolish 1552 01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:17,439 Speaker 1: the futtle income tax for minimum wage only. The Democrats 1553 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:20,439 Speaker 1: would have to run in for the hills when that happen, 1554 01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,400 Speaker 1: but that the fact is less than one percentable workers 1555 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:26,320 Speaker 1: work for minimum wage. So the impact that the budget 1556 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,479 Speaker 1: would be negligible, but the propaganda coup would be huge 1557 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,200 Speaker 1: because it would essentially raise the take home pay in 1558 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,040 Speaker 1: a minimum wage worker by two bucks an hour. That's 1559 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:41,160 Speaker 1: a massive increase in their hourly wages. And it abolishes 1560 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,160 Speaker 1: this need to say, oh, we need to raise the 1561 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,400 Speaker 1: minimum wage. No we don't. We just need to abolish 1562 01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,120 Speaker 1: the sut of income tax of themimu wage. Mac. That's 1563 01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 1: assuming your numbers are right, and I'm willing to conceive that. 1564 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:52,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, and you've seem the guy who scored 1565 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,280 Speaker 1: away on this doing your numbers are right, I think 1566 01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,559 Speaker 1: you gotta. I think you've got quite a quite a 1567 01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 1: plan there, I gotta say. Endorsed by till one I'm hearing. Well, 1568 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,040 Speaker 1: then you need to write something about it. Yes, yes, sir, 1569 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:07,120 Speaker 1: I just I guess I do have some connections to 1570 01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,680 Speaker 1: the Republican Party on the White House and uh, some 1571 01:29:09,720 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 1: ways of reaching folks out there. So you Mac, I'm 1572 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:14,200 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna see what I can do with this. 1573 01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:18,559 Speaker 1: I like this, alright, alright, brother Shields, Hi, thank you. 1574 01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,000 Speaker 1: Look at this. It's just like the Buck Sexton Show. 1575 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,400 Speaker 1: Here is like because of you, because the team Buck, 1576 01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,280 Speaker 1: this is like a think tank in real time on 1577 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,559 Speaker 1: the airways. That's how we that's how we roll here 1578 01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 1: in the Freedom. But everybody, we are the on air 1579 01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:37,320 Speaker 1: think tank of America. Oh I think I think we 1580 01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:39,360 Speaker 1: just stumbled upon a slogan. I kind of like that 1581 01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 1: America's on air think tank. Although think tank sounds maybe 1582 01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,479 Speaker 1: a little boring. We're a little more exciting than that, 1583 01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:55,120 Speaker 1: you know, because we've got fun stuff. He's holding the 1584 01:29:55,200 --> 01:30:01,320 Speaker 1: line for America. Buck Sexton is back to make sure 1585 01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:05,400 Speaker 1: that I'm giving you just the facts on the Menendez 1586 01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,640 Speaker 1: watch that we should be undergoing here to see if 1587 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 1: we have a U. S. Senator chairman of the Foreign 1588 01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:16,800 Speaker 1: Relations Committee, no less, who maybe soon to be kicked 1589 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:21,840 Speaker 1: out of office, to see if in fact that is uh, 1590 01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,120 Speaker 1: that that's the case, ort to see what what the 1591 01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:28,439 Speaker 1: historical background is. I just wanted to share with you 1592 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:32,960 Speaker 1: this um this is courtesy of the Senate dot gov, 1593 01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:36,160 Speaker 1: the actual you know, website of the United States Senate. 1594 01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,960 Speaker 1: On expulsions and censures from the Senate. I keep saying, 1595 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:43,400 Speaker 1: it's been like a hundred years. I'm I'm mostly you know, 1596 01:30:43,439 --> 01:30:46,600 Speaker 1: I think the politico the fact check, not political PolitiFact. 1597 01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:50,640 Speaker 1: There you go, although I'm sure political and political PolitiFact 1598 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:56,679 Speaker 1: have the same political leanings. Nonetheless, here's the truth about 1599 01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 1: expulsions and centers from the Senate. I thought this was interesting. 1600 01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,200 Speaker 1: First off, Article one, Section five of the United States 1601 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:07,479 Speaker 1: Constitution provides that each House of Congress may determine the 1602 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,840 Speaker 1: rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, 1603 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:16,439 Speaker 1: with the concurrence of two thirds, expel a member. Since 1604 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:22,800 Speaker 1: seventy nine, the Senate has only expelled fifteen of its 1605 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:28,719 Speaker 1: entire membership. Of that number, fourteen were charged with support 1606 01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,080 Speaker 1: of the Confederacy during the Civil War. In several other cases, 1607 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:37,080 Speaker 1: the Senate considered expulsion proceedings but either found found the 1608 01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:41,479 Speaker 1: member not guilty, or failed to act before the member 1609 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,800 Speaker 1: left office. In those cases, corruption was the primary cause 1610 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,839 Speaker 1: of complaint. In the entire course of the Senate's history, 1611 01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:54,479 Speaker 1: only four members have been convicted of crimes. They were 1612 01:31:55,040 --> 01:32:00,439 Speaker 1: Joseph R. Burton nineteen oh five, John Hippel Mitchell No. Five, 1613 01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:09,240 Speaker 1: Truman Newberry, and Harrison Williams. One. Newberry's conviction was later overturned. 1614 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,840 Speaker 1: Mitchell died, Burton Newberry and Williams resigned before the Senate 1615 01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:18,559 Speaker 1: could act on their expulsion. So yeah, I'm right. It 1616 01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,320 Speaker 1: has been over a hundred years since they expelled someone 1617 01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,360 Speaker 1: from the Senate. But there have been some that we're 1618 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:26,160 Speaker 1: gonna get expelled that they did not resign. But that 1619 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:30,760 Speaker 1: makes a possible felony conviction for Senator Menendez of New 1620 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:35,080 Speaker 1: Jersey even more interesting because he may force the issue 1621 01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:41,400 Speaker 1: of expulsion and the Democrats theoretically might not go along. 1622 01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you could say that they view 1623 01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,160 Speaker 1: the stakes as too high and they would want to 1624 01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,439 Speaker 1: hold or defer in a vote that they might try 1625 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:53,519 Speaker 1: to delay until a new governor would be in place 1626 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,040 Speaker 1: in New Jersey. As I was telling you, so, I 1627 01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:56,680 Speaker 1: just but I wanted to give you the backstory on 1628 01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 1: that one. So mostly the Senate has only expelled people 1629 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,800 Speaker 1: who were The US Center has only expelled members who 1630 01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,679 Speaker 1: were part of the Confederacy fourteen out of fifteen. And 1631 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:08,800 Speaker 1: there have been others who were about to get there, 1632 01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:13,720 Speaker 1: about to get the boot, but they decided to bail preemptively. 1633 01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,240 Speaker 1: So a little bit of a little bit of history there, 1634 01:33:16,360 --> 01:33:18,679 Speaker 1: I thought that was I would like to throw throw 1635 01:33:18,680 --> 01:33:20,800 Speaker 1: a little history into things, spice up the pot here 1636 01:33:20,800 --> 01:33:25,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of history. Uh. So by that in mind, 1637 01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,120 Speaker 1: I also um planning. I know I've told you the 1638 01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,560 Speaker 1: Dracula show for Halloween that will be end of October. 1639 01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to pull together a lepanto show for October, 1640 01:33:34,680 --> 01:33:37,280 Speaker 1: or at least I shouldn't say show. People will be like, wait, 1641 01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:39,120 Speaker 1: what You're gonna do a whole show on this. I'll 1642 01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,560 Speaker 1: do a little some segments, maybe broken out over a 1643 01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,679 Speaker 1: few days, maybe a Friday, maybe a Friday Monday. We'll see. 1644 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,839 Speaker 1: But the history stuff. Because of your responses on Facebook 1645 01:33:49,880 --> 01:33:52,559 Speaker 1: dot com slash box section, which I do read, thank 1646 01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,720 Speaker 1: you so much for that. And you know we've got 1647 01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,160 Speaker 1: other members of the team posting. But I do read 1648 01:33:57,200 --> 01:33:59,599 Speaker 1: all of your messages to me. So if you want 1649 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,360 Speaker 1: to set you don't. You can email us too, But 1650 01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:02,960 Speaker 1: if I think it's easier for a lot of just 1651 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,719 Speaker 1: to Facebook message, but you gotta follow the page, Facebook 1652 01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:09,960 Speaker 1: dot com slash bucks extent. Now, I saw this piece 1653 01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:13,840 Speaker 1: on Salon dot com that I want to share with 1654 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:18,679 Speaker 1: you because I just was like, wow, um, this is uh, 1655 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:23,920 Speaker 1: this is where leftism falls into it falls into self 1656 01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 1: parody without it's not self conscious enough to know that 1657 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:31,160 Speaker 1: this is like parody. But this is this is just 1658 01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:35,680 Speaker 1: really really a music stuff. Um, because they're so sensitive, 1659 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,640 Speaker 1: the snowflake ism is so profound and so real on 1660 01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,680 Speaker 1: the left. Do you think, excuse me, sirberate like you 1661 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:47,320 Speaker 1: shouldn't use certain terms because you might it might make 1662 01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:50,160 Speaker 1: you sound racist. It's like, wait, why do I sound 1663 01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,479 Speaker 1: rac Why does this sound racist? So here here are 1664 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:57,639 Speaker 1: some of the ones that that, um, that are these 1665 01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:00,080 Speaker 1: are now racist terms according to Salon, which is a 1666 01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,960 Speaker 1: big website on the left. I mean, I know some 1667 01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:03,760 Speaker 1: of you are like Buck, why do you why do 1668 01:35:03,800 --> 01:35:05,760 Speaker 1: you read this stuff? Well, I read it so that 1669 01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 1: I can know the oppositions, lines of argument, and then 1670 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:11,120 Speaker 1: I can make fun of them here on the show, 1671 01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 1: which is good stuff for everybody. So we get like 1672 01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,519 Speaker 1: lift Hepe's really he mean, they get Live the Hiffing Post, 1673 01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:19,960 Speaker 1: and we get like Salan, which is the whiners. And 1674 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, there's different different Democrat characters that appear on 1675 01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,679 Speaker 1: the show as a result of my deep dives into 1676 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,680 Speaker 1: the leftist point of view here, but he santist. He's 1677 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:34,240 Speaker 1: always doing he's like the king of the leftists. Hey, everybody, 1678 01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm still struggling with with separating out Sanders sound bites 1679 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,559 Speaker 1: in my head from Sarah Sanders sound bites, because I'm like, wow, 1680 01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,479 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders speaking some sense these days. Oh wait, it's 1681 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,960 Speaker 1: not Bernie Sanders. But okay, So back to the Salon 1682 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:53,920 Speaker 1: piece and five terms that can or could they say 1683 01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:58,559 Speaker 1: could make you sound racist everybody. So, just like I'm 1684 01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:03,080 Speaker 1: always trying to stay abreast, is that a microaggression? I 1685 01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,920 Speaker 1: think technically, I guess breast can be male or female, 1686 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,320 Speaker 1: but we think of breasts as being female. And if 1687 01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 1: you say that you're staying abreast of something, I don't know, 1688 01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,559 Speaker 1: it seems a little seems a little sexist. You know. 1689 01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:17,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a term. Maybe we should stay stay a 1690 01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,439 Speaker 1: chest of it. I don't know. I just I'm trying 1691 01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,519 Speaker 1: to make sure I don't offend anybody. We don't want 1692 01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:27,680 Speaker 1: to be offensive here, Actually sometimes we do, okay. They 1693 01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:29,400 Speaker 1: they say that this is one of the terms though, 1694 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:32,120 Speaker 1: that that comes up on the radar of being offensive. 1695 01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:39,320 Speaker 1: Ethnic food. Why is that offensive? They write that growing up, 1696 01:36:39,360 --> 01:36:43,400 Speaker 1: this was an acceptable term that applied to everything from 1697 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:48,960 Speaker 1: Cantonese Chinese to what you thought was Mexican food non 1698 01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 1: ethnic food meant good old classic American food. Uh, but 1699 01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:58,840 Speaker 1: why is that? Why is that a problem? Okay, I mean, 1700 01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, it just a term, but it's not disparaging. 1701 01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:05,200 Speaker 1: We know that. I'm you know, there's American cuisine, which 1702 01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,439 Speaker 1: you could also argue, as I'm sure many of you would, 1703 01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,600 Speaker 1: that there's regional American cuisine. To American cuisine covers a 1704 01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:14,240 Speaker 1: whole lot more than just burgers and fries, although burgers 1705 01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:19,439 Speaker 1: and fries are amazing, right, let's be honest. Um, but yeah, 1706 01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:22,840 Speaker 1: ethnic food, they say that's on the list. Here's another one, 1707 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,559 Speaker 1: a bad neighborhood quote about if you say that that 1708 01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:32,680 Speaker 1: it areas a bad neighborhood, you could sound racist. Um, 1709 01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 1: why is that? I think it's interesting that that that 1710 01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:40,640 Speaker 1: democrats and left wing progressive writers. I think that to 1711 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:45,120 Speaker 1: call a neighborhood bad is just just that term it's 1712 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,160 Speaker 1: a bad neighborhood that somehow there are there are racial 1713 01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:52,720 Speaker 1: undertones to that. Um, they're there are bad neighborhoods with 1714 01:37:52,760 --> 01:37:54,840 Speaker 1: all different kinds of people, And depends on where we're 1715 01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,760 Speaker 1: talking about, what the neighborhood is right, So why does 1716 01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:01,639 Speaker 1: that strike anyone as being racist? I mean, your your 1717 01:38:01,720 --> 01:38:03,800 Speaker 1: guesses is really as good as mine when it comes 1718 01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,800 Speaker 1: to this stuff. When it comes to how politico makes 1719 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:09,960 Speaker 1: the storry not political whoops, politicals alam, they all blend 1720 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:14,880 Speaker 1: together in my head. But bad neighborhood, um. The writer 1721 01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:16,800 Speaker 1: here writes to be quote to be totally honest with you. 1722 01:38:16,840 --> 01:38:18,599 Speaker 1: I only learned how offensive this term was a few 1723 01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:21,680 Speaker 1: years ago, and used it myself up until then. It 1724 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,800 Speaker 1: was tossed around casually when I was growing up, particularly 1725 01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,840 Speaker 1: by the parents of friends who encourage us to stay 1726 01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:31,160 Speaker 1: away from the bad cities that bordered on our wealthy 1727 01:38:31,200 --> 01:38:33,760 Speaker 1: suburban town. What you really mean when you say bad 1728 01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:37,240 Speaker 1: is poor And when you imply that poor people are bad, 1729 01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,439 Speaker 1: you assume that the people who live in those neighbors 1730 01:38:39,479 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 1: don't want to change the things that are bad. It's 1731 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:45,080 Speaker 1: victim blaming and nothing more. But what is they don't 1732 01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:47,720 Speaker 1: even say what this is fact. There's no mention of 1733 01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:50,040 Speaker 1: race in this at all, even by this person during 1734 01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 1: the analysis. So how you're so poor is now racist 1735 01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:57,439 Speaker 1: because they're saying bad equals poor. But the whole piece 1736 01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:00,439 Speaker 1: is that this is making you sound racist. I don't know. 1737 01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,120 Speaker 1: I got to write a letter to the editor here. 1738 01:39:02,560 --> 01:39:10,280 Speaker 1: I'll be like, dear heteronormative, heteronormative, patriarchical, uh cis gendering 1739 01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:14,439 Speaker 1: salon writers. They'll that'll get them all fired up, and 1740 01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,599 Speaker 1: they like, oh my gosh, why is he saying that 1741 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:22,920 Speaker 1: to us? He's learning our words? All right, we got more. Um, 1742 01:39:23,000 --> 01:39:31,160 Speaker 1: they say that Indian Indian can sound racist. Oh, because 1743 01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:33,240 Speaker 1: I guess that they're gonna say because the difference between 1744 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:38,599 Speaker 1: Native Americans and those that are actually from the the 1745 01:39:38,640 --> 01:39:41,760 Speaker 1: country of of India. But I don't think we really 1746 01:39:41,760 --> 01:39:46,040 Speaker 1: need us a splainer, as they're called, an explainer on 1747 01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:50,680 Speaker 1: how Indian can be Indian can be racist. Um, so 1748 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:52,679 Speaker 1: that's that's on the list here. And then I thought 1749 01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:56,000 Speaker 1: this was the They write that urban urban culture in 1750 01:39:56,120 --> 01:40:02,000 Speaker 1: quotes is also can make you can make you sound racist. Um, 1751 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:06,120 Speaker 1: why why is that racist? Are there there are urban stations? 1752 01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:08,519 Speaker 1: I believe on on radio that this this strikes me 1753 01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:12,480 Speaker 1: as as quite a reach. But they'll it's always evolving, 1754 01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:14,479 Speaker 1: I really think. And this is if I'm gonna come 1755 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:16,040 Speaker 1: up with a takeaway other than making fun of the 1756 01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,680 Speaker 1: incoherence of the left, which is which is always worthwhile. 1757 01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:23,120 Speaker 1: It's that they like policing language because they can always 1758 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:26,519 Speaker 1: change what the what the so called police laws are, right, 1759 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 1: I mean that they can always move the goalposts as 1760 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,160 Speaker 1: it fits their whims and moods and political needs at 1761 01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:36,080 Speaker 1: any point in time. And therefore they can declare anyone 1762 01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,519 Speaker 1: they want to be racist, to be homophobic, to be 1763 01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:43,080 Speaker 1: a misogynist, because the mere terminology that you use that 1764 01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:47,760 Speaker 1: had been acceptable is declared out of bounds. So what 1765 01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:51,280 Speaker 1: you think is fine and you're not trying to be offensive, 1766 01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:53,720 Speaker 1: and in these cases you're these these are terms that 1767 01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:58,200 Speaker 1: are not offensive. They will make them into offensive terms, right, 1768 01:40:58,240 --> 01:41:01,600 Speaker 1: They will transform the anguage for their own purposes. This 1769 01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,080 Speaker 1: has been happening constantly. I mean that the battle over 1770 01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:08,680 Speaker 1: pronouns is one of the most clear examples of this, 1771 01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:13,599 Speaker 1: where they're literally making upwards like Z is now a 1772 01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:18,160 Speaker 1: pronoun for a human being? Right x E. But what 1773 01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,719 Speaker 1: can what what constitutes a racist term or a racist 1774 01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:27,599 Speaker 1: word is in a constant process of of evolving based 1775 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 1: on the whims and the the circumstantial needs of the 1776 01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,800 Speaker 1: progressive left. So so I try to stay try to 1777 01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:35,280 Speaker 1: stay is on top of this as I can, because 1778 01:41:35,280 --> 01:41:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want any to say, all right, 1779 01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:43,120 Speaker 1: just talking about, uh, what was the silliest one? I 1780 01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:44,639 Speaker 1: can't remember now that there are a bunch of those. 1781 01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:47,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, using the term Indian, I don't know. My 1782 01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:50,360 Speaker 1: friends from India probably would have no problem with that. 1783 01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,000 Speaker 1: So until next time, Shields High