WEBVTT - SHARP NFL BETS Week 11: Bears-Vikings, Seahawks-Rams, Broncos-Chiefs, Bills-Bucs, Lions-Eagles and more

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet.

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<v Speaker 1>am joined as always buying, my co host, my companion

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Caadre, my BFF, professional Better, Simon Hunter, Ella.

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<v Speaker 2>Simn Chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Felt extra excited to introduce you today.

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<v Speaker 3>Fired up Week eleven?

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<v Speaker 2>Week eleven. That doesn't fire me up. That just makes

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<v Speaker 2>me sad.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes me sad that we're at week eleven, that

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<v Speaker 1>we're in double digit weeks, that we're staring down the

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<v Speaker 1>barrel of the end of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>That just bums me out because I love football. This

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<v Speaker 2>is our week eleven episode.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to narrow down the options to get to

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<v Speaker 1>our final five. We're inching our way closer. Remember subscribe

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<v Speaker 1>to Sharper Square on YouTube, Apple Pods, Spotify. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>every single week, Simon, the Wise guys listen to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>and every single week they've got opinions about what we are.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying, where we are leaning.

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<v Speaker 1>They like to tell us what they think about everything

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<v Speaker 1>we discuss.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's get right to it. It's time for sharp call.

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<v Speaker 4>I have to answer this boat, all right, rain range

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<v Speaker 4>telephone range.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody said, maybe what you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, It's been a crazy week chat.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, a lot of calls about the different matchups and

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<v Speaker 5>obviously the conversation we had, and the biggest one I

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<v Speaker 5>got was our love for the Seattle. We're way off.

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<v Speaker 5>Got I get on the RAM. So that's deffin again.

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<v Speaker 5>We're gonna have to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I'm so glad.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad because I was having a change of

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<v Speaker 1>heart yesterday and I like it when everything lines up

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<v Speaker 1>for us.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So definitely, definitely a game we're gonna to talk

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<v Speaker 5>about Rams. Another game we might be missing on, or

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<v Speaker 5>just I personally might be missing on Panthers. Tons of

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<v Speaker 5>pros love the Panthers there, so maybe I can just

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<v Speaker 5>avoid that game another game.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe I'll just avoid I really like the Bucks.

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<v Speaker 5>Tons of pros I've talked tough, really liked the Bills,

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<v Speaker 5>and they have some good arguments about why they like

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<v Speaker 5>that spot. But maybe we'll we'll go against them together chat.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, we'll see with that game. But a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of back and forth about just the pros loving

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<v Speaker 5>the bills there, and that's what's holding that number because

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<v Speaker 5>I thought this number before, By this show today, it's

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<v Speaker 5>still five and a half. So love to talk about

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<v Speaker 5>that one. Games that I think we got a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of love and agreeance on our Cleveland game.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean that game. We could have just walked into

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<v Speaker 3>it as well. I know that full well.

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<v Speaker 5>We didn't know Lamar had a bad knee, so we

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<v Speaker 5>took a number.

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<v Speaker 3>Took a spot. Hopefully you know Lamar is all right?

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<v Speaker 5>What am I then missing this game for me chat though?

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<v Speaker 5>And we have an eight and a half because this

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<v Speaker 5>would definitely drop four and a half five or maybe

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<v Speaker 5>even three and a half. Fee is out tons of

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<v Speaker 5>love for that one Denver as well. It's a professional love.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh not a shaka there. Another game, actually, I was

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<v Speaker 5>pretty shocked. I thought it was going to be a

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<v Speaker 5>tons and tons of Eagles love. That Lin's Eagles game

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<v Speaker 5>is pretty split. I know some pros on both sides.

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<v Speaker 5>So that number has touched three at a couple of places

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<v Speaker 5>and then immediately got hit back to two and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>So a game I thought it would be all pros

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<v Speaker 5>and all public really split, right, public would be all

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<v Speaker 5>over the lines. Pros would be on Eagles. It's not

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<v Speaker 5>really looking like that that way. So interesting game and

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<v Speaker 5>another game I'm kind of left on my low some chat.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought the pros would be all over this Raiders game.

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<v Speaker 5>It just might be me and three other guys. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think they trust this Raiders team too much love

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<v Speaker 5>for that one. Maybe it's just the Monday game. But

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<v Speaker 5>not too many opinions either way on that one, honestly, so,

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<v Speaker 5>I've had a couple ask about that. Why do I

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<v Speaker 5>love it so much? It really is just about the

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<v Speaker 5>number and that Dallas team. But I get why people

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<v Speaker 5>are so weary in this matchup.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's first talk about Cincinnati at Pittsburgh, which no one

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<v Speaker 1>has mentioned. The line's been generally holding at five and

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<v Speaker 1>a half bumped down five at hard Rock bet, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing other places where the juice is indicating it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go up to six. I'm honestly surprised and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit disappointed that it hasn't been more aggressively

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<v Speaker 1>moving to five like we're seeing at hard Rock. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>I bet into it at five and a half. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>it entirely comes down to the offensive weapons for the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know everyone's going to say everything they want

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<v Speaker 1>to about the Steelers.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be a bounce back spot. Aaron Rodgers played terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the line's deflated a little bit because of how

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<v Speaker 1>bad the Steelers did against the Chargers. Maybe Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>and Pat Fryarmouth and Jalen Warren can get right against

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<v Speaker 1>a terrible, terrible, terrible Bengals defense. We know how bad

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals defense is. We've also seen how good the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals offense can be, especially against a suspect defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>right now the Steelers secondary is sus.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's just terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>How are they going to defend against an exceptional group

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<v Speaker 1>of receivers and Joe Flacco, who he's ageless.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we were both a little weird this one,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just understand the line.

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<v Speaker 5>That's another game. We just thought it would make more

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<v Speaker 5>sense at three three and a half. Like we said,

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<v Speaker 5>it was just two weeks ago. This Bengals team upset

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<v Speaker 5>and beat the Steelers team. And Steelers are banged up

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<v Speaker 5>like they're not healthy. They have a bunch of injuries

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<v Speaker 5>in a bunch of key positions as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Bengals like you just had coming off of bye week.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I thought it was funny Joe Burrow who's

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<v Speaker 5>rushing back, which is really impressive for him, but that's

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<v Speaker 5>not going to fix any of their issues. Like this

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<v Speaker 5>Bengals team, they literally have been scoring more points, averaging

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<v Speaker 5>more points with Flacco at the helm than than Joe.

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<v Speaker 5>It doesn't matter. He's just he's not to fix this

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<v Speaker 5>this defense.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a trocia.

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<v Speaker 5>So I agree with you. The number makes sense. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>we'll grab it and hope for a back door. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>Joe will have the lead and the back door will

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<v Speaker 5>come from Rogers and we still have a key number

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<v Speaker 5>above three and that won't matter for us.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought it was interesting looking at Zach Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>the head coach.

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<v Speaker 5>What can we take away from him and these type

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<v Speaker 5>of situations after a bye week? Is he a good coach?

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<v Speaker 5>Does you get guys prepared? He is one and four

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<v Speaker 5>against the spread bag.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't expect anything. Taylor.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, Zach Taylor man just.

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<v Speaker 5>Who some people it's crazy, So he's I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>can't blame him. The offense has been good with Flacco

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of stuff, but apparently it's just been all

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<v Speaker 5>matchup base. So the last time they played, Joe Flacca

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<v Speaker 5>made fun of the Spitfik team. He said he'd even

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<v Speaker 5>know the bank those offense. They were just running the

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<v Speaker 5>same zone scheme over and over again. So I'm looking

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<v Speaker 5>for reasons to avoid it because I just don't this

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<v Speaker 5>number feels sofficient to me. I'm gonna join you. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>gonna bet the I'm gonna bet the Bengals. But I

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<v Speaker 5>have not made this one of my bigger best this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't know. Something just seems awful.

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<v Speaker 5>I just can't believe we're getting two extra free points

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<v Speaker 5>here on this Bengals teams. He said, Steelers defense is

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<v Speaker 5>just as bad, just as bad as the Spangles defense.

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<v Speaker 3>So really weird line.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a very strange line. Also, not that it

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<v Speaker 1>matters one where the other. Trey Hendrickson doubtful to play

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<v Speaker 1>this week with that injured hip, even after the bye week.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say that about Zach Taylor, I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care like he's.

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<v Speaker 3>So he just knows altrocious he is. He comes out

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<v Speaker 3>of a bye week, He's won and four against divisional opponents.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he's also atrocious win they don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>buy Like, I'm not betting on Zach Taylor in this.

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<v Speaker 3>Game, even more so.

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<v Speaker 5>Straight up as a dog in the spot as an

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<v Speaker 5>underdog losing it by combined score of eighty five to

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<v Speaker 5>twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but here's the thing. Honestly, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 3>Trying to make it so we're protecting you. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know for to make it one of our five, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know that we're going to make it one of our

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<v Speaker 2>five either.

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<v Speaker 1>But Zach Taylor just never entered the equation for me

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<v Speaker 1>in this is similar to what that Mike Tomlin didn't

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<v Speaker 1>enter the equation even though you know, historically we'd want

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<v Speaker 1>to fade Mike Tomlin as a relatively big favorite at

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<v Speaker 1>home in the division that that has tended to be

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<v Speaker 1>where he hasn't coached as well, right and where the

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<v Speaker 1>team has had a little bit of a letdown and

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<v Speaker 1>they played down to the level of their opponent.

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<v Speaker 3>This is entirely It was actually good here for Tomlin.

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<v Speaker 5>Like historically, him playing a divisional opponent after a bad

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<v Speaker 5>loss on the road coming home as a favorite, he

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<v Speaker 5>actually does pretty well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I agree with you. I just do not like Ben.

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<v Speaker 3>Tomlin is a big favorite.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys that played for me. They can tell you. One

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<v Speaker 4>of my sayings I got a lot of sayings is

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<v Speaker 4>don't seek comfort. I realized if you're going to have

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<v Speaker 4>special outcomes, that you got to be comfortable. Being uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 4>appreciating my resume is seeking comfort.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Flacco was playing so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow's coming back early because he's worried about his job.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's going on here. And I think we both know.

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<v Speaker 5>That's another Flacco stat He's nine to four in his

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<v Speaker 5>career against his president underdog against Tomlin. So he always

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<v Speaker 5>performs well against Tom and Donlin even said it so much.

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<v Speaker 3>There was the boogeyman.

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<v Speaker 5>He could not believe he had to face this guy

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<v Speaker 5>again and getting him traded in his own division.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that includes when they played against each other in

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<v Speaker 1>pee wee football, because they're basically the.

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<v Speaker 2>Same age.

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<v Speaker 1>Houston at Tennessee Simon, we said we were waiting until

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<v Speaker 1>this number got below seven. It took him minute, but

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<v Speaker 1>at lanted below seven yesterday Wednesday afternoon, middle of the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pretty much six and a half painted across

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<v Speaker 1>the board minus one ten. No official word on CJ,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did not practice. The Texans do not expect

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<v Speaker 1>him to play this weekend, so this number was moving

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<v Speaker 1>based on Davis Mills.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeffrey Simmons is hopeful he will be back.

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<v Speaker 1>I did bet the Texans at minus six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half because I think they might only have to score

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<v Speaker 1>one touchdown to cover this number. The defense is so

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<v Speaker 1>good that offense is so bad. There's there's virtually no

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<v Speaker 1>evidence that this offense can get the ball in the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone often enough against this defense to to cover

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<v Speaker 1>less than a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, yeah, I'm on it as well.

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<v Speaker 5>It's the only polems I have for this one is

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<v Speaker 5>it's tons of tons of pros are on this Titans team,

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<v Speaker 5>and of course that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Why it moved. No one's no one in the public

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<v Speaker 2>is betting.

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<v Speaker 5>It came out eating practice on Wednesday or Tuesday, I

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<v Speaker 5>believe because it was concussion.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's when it moved to six and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>It started moving Tuesday night to six and a half

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<v Speaker 1>because that's when I bet it, and by today it

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<v Speaker 1>was six and a half across the board.

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<v Speaker 5>So, like you know, the fact that it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 5>more likely now that teaches out adds to that, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you're looking at the early money here and it is

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<v Speaker 5>on Tennessee, so it looks like the public is joining them,

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<v Speaker 5>which makes sense. It's Davis Mills on the road as

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<v Speaker 5>a six and a half point favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>So I get where they're coming from.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we both agree we're taking this position for

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<v Speaker 5>the fact that we trust this defense but.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting and interesting number movement.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to tell people to bet it or

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<v Speaker 5>hammer now because it could drop. If it is official

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<v Speaker 5>CJ is out, maybe this does get the four four

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<v Speaker 5>and a half, like this number.

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<v Speaker 3>Does keep dropping.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way.

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<v Speaker 5>I know I thought that too, but I just I

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<v Speaker 5>was shocked and moved off to seven once the CJ

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<v Speaker 5>concussion no practice because I was like, I was not

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<v Speaker 5>expecting him to play this week anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but if it was going to move, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have already been. It would have been a much

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<v Speaker 1>more aggressive move in the past twenty four hours from this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a fair books.

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<v Speaker 5>Because it's gone under the key number now, where like

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<v Speaker 5>they're taking tons and tons of bets and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>moneyland parlays and teasers now in this Texans team, but

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<v Speaker 5>they're fine with that position because they're in the back

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<v Speaker 5>of round. I think they're saying, well, we think it's

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<v Speaker 5>probably gonna be Davis Mills. That's why I thought it

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<v Speaker 5>was big. They moved off the seven. So yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>just I'll be patient with this one. We'll see where

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<v Speaker 5>it goes. But like you said, we're both in six

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<v Speaker 5>and a half. It's just the more I think about it,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like the me and Check be forced to watch

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<v Speaker 5>this game and bet on this game. I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>if we're gonna have to make this one of those

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<v Speaker 5>games because I just how much I love the number

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<v Speaker 5>with Davis Mills.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're of course going to be watching it. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be in the multiview.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no there's no chance.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not like, there's so many good games I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, But the problem is we have money. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's going to be in the contest. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying we have money on it. At this point. I

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<v Speaker 1>know that in the early windows, I got five screens

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<v Speaker 1>I can watch on. I'll watch the five games that

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<v Speaker 1>are in the contest and that we have bets on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna have it on this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say if I was at home, I'd probably put

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<v Speaker 3>on the iPad. I won't even put on the TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this game will probably be on my laptop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that sounds right.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll see, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know I can know for a fact

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Cleveland's going to be on there. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Pittsburgh's going to be on there. So we'll see. Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the Green Bay Packers as

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<v Speaker 1>seven point favorites at the New York Giants, because on

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday we talked about the Packers and you added slightly

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<v Speaker 1>into the Packers. I was wondering why, like we would

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<v Speaker 1>even try to make a decision. We didn't know who

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be quarterback. Now we know, famous Jameis

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<v Speaker 1>Winston is starting for the Giants on Sunday. Russell Wilson

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<v Speaker 1>has been demoted to third string, and Russell Wilson is

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<v Speaker 1>now doing videos on Cameo. He's made three hundred million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in his career. He's doing videos on cameo. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>at his presconf friends as the number one quarterback as

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<v Speaker 1>QB one, Jameis Winston gave a virtuoso performance, including a

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway musical interlude. Matt Mitchell roll it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm want fans to know that I'm gonna do my best.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, obviously I'm gonna have.

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<v Speaker 6>Fun, but I'm gonna execute, have a surgical execution, and

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<v Speaker 6>just and just play ball, man, Like this is something

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<v Speaker 6>I've been doing since I've been four years old. Now

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<v Speaker 6>I just get to do it in the greatest city

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<v Speaker 6>in the world. I'm gonna be saying with my son,

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<v Speaker 6>what's the greatest city in the world. Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 6>Hamilton reference to now I don't know, and a ten

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<v Speaker 6>year reunion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, come on him acknowledging Hamilton's ten ten

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<v Speaker 1>year anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a legend. He's a legend.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, Jamis is everything you love about betting. You

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<v Speaker 1>and I talk about this all the time. You love

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<v Speaker 1>the roller coaster of betting. I love knowing that I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the win in the first quarter and then relaxing

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the day. I want to be right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want the emotion. You want the emotion. Jamis

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<v Speaker 1>is your type of QB.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, all the betting, how do you not put

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<v Speaker 1>in a small taste on Jamis. He is the full

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<v Speaker 1>experience on Sunday, the oh no throws, the oh yes throws,

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<v Speaker 1>the holy shit throws, signing Jamis a little taste.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, The biggest sin in life is that James is

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<v Speaker 5>not like a top five quarterback in this week. It

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<v Speaker 5>just for he has so much personality we just don't

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<v Speaker 5>get from quarterbacks, right. Most quarterbacks are just robots, which

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<v Speaker 5>they should be right, they're protecting their brand. They don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to say anything that gets put on the board

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<v Speaker 5>and used against.

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<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 5>But Jamis is just so free and just not negative

0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:58.680
<v Speaker 5>and just good vibes, like he never says the wrong things,

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<v Speaker 5>even when he's talking crazy. It's it's great, like he

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<v Speaker 5>just you never know where he's gonna go with it.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I I just thought this was a green

0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:10.800
<v Speaker 5>Bay spot. We've talked this year, this green Bay team.

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<v Speaker 5>They're on a historical run right there. I think the

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<v Speaker 5>first team in like twenty years to be zero to

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<v Speaker 5>five as a seven point favorite against the spread. They

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<v Speaker 5>get to cover the season as a seven point favorite.

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<v Speaker 5>So the public's on the Giants. The broser they joning them.

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<v Speaker 5>This is gonna be a huge, huge bet all the teasers,

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<v Speaker 5>all the money line, partly as this Packers team, because

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<v Speaker 5>everyone's like me, They just I can't see the Packers

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<v Speaker 5>the three games in a row. So maybe I'll just

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<v Speaker 5>avoid it now, because like you said, Jamis could either

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<v Speaker 5>lose this game by thirty or win this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Outright if he had such a wild Gay's passing the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, such a wild car.

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<v Speaker 5>I just I don't know if he has a weapons

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<v Speaker 5>chat Like in other places where he's done stuff, he's

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<v Speaker 5>actually had guys on the outside that can make plays.

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<v Speaker 5>He does not have that in this scenario. And he's

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<v Speaker 5>going against a really good defensive front. So I'm still

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still on the Packers.

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<v Speaker 3>But I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>I get you're coming from. You want to go on

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<v Speaker 5>the Giants and it's fun. I just I can't. I

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<v Speaker 5>can't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to bet as bet put us on Jamis,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's won us so much money over the years, though,

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then.

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<v Speaker 2>He's lost us so much many over the years.

0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Last year we had a pretty good run of like

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<v Speaker 1>betting on Jamis at the right time and betting against

0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.879
<v Speaker 1>Jamis at the right time, And this just feels like

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<v Speaker 1>a bet on Jamis and I can't.

0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of bummed that he stayed in the.

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<v Speaker 1>NFL, because I think he'd be so good as a broadcaster, analyst,

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<v Speaker 1>full time social media influencer, whatever it is. Oh goodness, Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just this is going to be on the TV

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<v Speaker 1>just to watch Jamis implode or blow up the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>either way. All right, let's talk about Tampa Bay at Buffalo.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned this the other day. I think we've underestimated

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<v Speaker 1>how much Bucky Irving means to the Buccaneers because we've

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<v Speaker 1>continued to want to bet on the Buccaneers and have

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<v Speaker 1>bet the Buccaneers, including last week against the Patriots. So

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<v Speaker 1>I looked it up because it's like it just we

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<v Speaker 1>believed so much in Baker ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Have we leaned too much into that.

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<v Speaker 1>The Buccaneers were running the ball thirty eight percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the time with Bucket Irving. Now they're doing just twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of the time, and that impacts everything, Right,

0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:26.040
<v Speaker 1>they have fewer explosive ten plus yard runs, but also

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<v Speaker 1>it just changes the play action dynamic for Baker. It's

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<v Speaker 1>much less effective, and I think that's having an impact

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<v Speaker 1>on the entire game. It's like when you hurt your

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<v Speaker 1>toe and it hits the whole kinetic chain. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that is really a big issue for them. We

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<v Speaker 1>were wondering why the wise guys might be all over

0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the Bucks. I don't know all the reasons, but I

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<v Speaker 1>look at this and it makes a little more sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Honestly, it sounds really simple. But this Bucks team, to me,

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<v Speaker 5>the big difference has been Baker doesn't hasn't scrambled in

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<v Speaker 5>about three weeks now, and if you look back, he

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<v Speaker 5>took a really bad shot in that win against the

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<v Speaker 5>forty nine ers, he hasn't. He didn't have one rushing

0:19:15.040 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 5>attemp against Detroit, that single rushing attempt against the Saints,

0:19:18.280 --> 0:19:20.520
<v Speaker 5>and same against New Orleans and.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember all those insane wames earlier in the year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so maybe that's what we're missing here, is he

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<v Speaker 5>sustained an injury. He doesn't want to be taking hits

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<v Speaker 5>like that, scrambling outside the pocket, and it's been a

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<v Speaker 5>difference to their offense. You need that Baker magic for

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<v Speaker 5>it to work for this team. So you know there

0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:42.520
<v Speaker 5>are some stats too. We talked about this would be

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<v Speaker 5>a spot Raffer Josh Allen. They just got embarrassed on

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<v Speaker 5>the road as a huge favorite, and it feels like

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<v Speaker 5>it's a unique spot, right, It's not often Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 5>goes on the road as a favorite and loses well

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<v Speaker 5>by double digits. And when I looked at it, it's

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty alarming. He's after loss like that. He's six

0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.600
<v Speaker 5>and three against the spread, which isn't that drastic, but

0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.880
<v Speaker 5>he's covering by eleven points per game in those matchups,

0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:10.280
<v Speaker 5>so he tends to bounce back. Josh Allen these matchups,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, if they have a game where they

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<v Speaker 5>score sixteen points or less in Josh Allen's career, the

0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:18.879
<v Speaker 5>following game, he's thirteen and six against the spread. So

0:20:18.920 --> 0:20:20.359
<v Speaker 5>we've just seen time and time again he tends to

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<v Speaker 5>bounce back. I had tons of people send me trend

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<v Speaker 5>numbers about Baker because they were agreeing with us about

0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 5>our love for Baker. That's why it's like, can we

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:30.720
<v Speaker 5>still get there? But I'm just alarmed that he has

0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:32.879
<v Speaker 5>not run. That was something that really jumped out to me.

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.760
<v Speaker 5>It's like, is there just something we don't know because

0:20:35.760 --> 0:20:39.080
<v Speaker 5>he's not looked the same since that forty nine ers game,

0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.439
<v Speaker 5>and I thought, you know what, that's just football, right,

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 5>you have lows, ups and downs. He's just not I

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.240
<v Speaker 5>thought he'd maybe get right after that bye a week,

0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 5>but you saw against New England he didn't really run

0:20:49.000 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 5>the ball, he didn't use his legs like he usually does. So, yeah,

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 5>they're just those type of things jumped out to me. Obviously.

0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.000
<v Speaker 5>If you want to hear some Baker stats as a dog,

0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.520
<v Speaker 5>he's fifteen to four or against a spread in his career.

0:21:01.920 --> 0:21:05.600
<v Speaker 5>We know Baker's just he covers as a dog. So

0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.160
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what you want to do in this one.

0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.359
<v Speaker 5>It's it's a unique spot, right, it's Baker awful loss

0:21:12.359 --> 0:21:14.680
<v Speaker 5>now is a dog on the road again. Another stat

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<v Speaker 5>at him is a dog in the SAX spot seventeen

0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.720
<v Speaker 5>and seven against the spread when he's off the loss

0:21:20.520 --> 0:21:23.960
<v Speaker 5>even better last five seasons he's twelve and three.

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<v Speaker 3>This is exactly pow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to bet Baker here. I know I do.

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<v Speaker 2>At five and a half. The numbers in my notes

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<v Speaker 2>are we worried about Baker.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I'm trying to get us here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're making a good point. I did the research yesterday.

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:42.520
<v Speaker 1>I think they're a different team, even though without Bucky Irving,

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.760
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing that in the trends. It could be a

0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.920
<v Speaker 1>combination of the lack of play action and Baker not

0:21:49.000 --> 0:21:51.800
<v Speaker 1>running the ball because he could be injured. All of

0:21:51.840 --> 0:21:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that seems to be missing from this Buccaneers team right now.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, it's it's not so much a bet on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills. It's going to be a bet on the

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<v Speaker 1>box and how comfortable can we get on this team.

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<v Speaker 2>It just feels to me like.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can't convince you to back Josh Allen. Here

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<v Speaker 3>you the Josh Allen stats.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it just seems like I know, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>trust I just don't trust his Bills team either.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my issue. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>This defense is just it's not very good.

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<v Speaker 5>I know, but if Baker's not Baker, can you really

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<v Speaker 5>take advantage of an attack him. So it's a hard

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<v Speaker 5>game for me where it's like I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 5>on the Bucks. I thought I was going to be

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<v Speaker 5>on the book Sunday though I was me on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just I have looked into it and I

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<v Speaker 5>agree it's there's something missing with this book.

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<v Speaker 3>See, I really do think it's that Russian ability of Baker.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of those weird games. Yeah, it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those weird games where we this would be a smash

0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 1>smart spot for us on a team that we almost

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<v Speaker 1>always love to bet on a quarterback. We always love

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<v Speaker 1>to bet. I don't know that we know enough yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to keep looking into it. I

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<v Speaker 1>haven't bet this game at all. I've tried to be patient.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not trying to work people, honestly is what I do.

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm like, I can't get anything. I can't get

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<v Speaker 5>anything about if he's had an injury, if he's been

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<v Speaker 5>resting an injury, because they haven't put anything on the injury

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<v Speaker 5>port either, so nothing's come out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just when someone brought that up, I looked

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<v Speaker 5>at it, go, oh my god, I've not even noticed that.

0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:16.320
<v Speaker 5>I have not noticed because you get sacked so much.

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<v Speaker 5>In my mind, I thought he's been running and scrambling,

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<v Speaker 5>but he has and he hasn't gained a yard in

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<v Speaker 5>three games.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know now that you think about it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially against the Patriots, there were a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>where the pocket just cratered that would have been a

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<v Speaker 1>Baker escapes and he didn't. It just he sort of

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<v Speaker 1>just collapsed in the pocket.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to keep talking about this one. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think we can commit to it one way or the

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<v Speaker 1>other yet. I want to bring up.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chargers and the Jags.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about the Jags the other day at plus

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<v Speaker 1>three at hard Rockets moved down to two and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're seeing professionals come in on the Jags. I

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<v Speaker 1>really left it in only because isn't this our week

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<v Speaker 1>to fade the Chargers?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>We'd want to say, oh my god, the Chargers looked

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<v Speaker 1>great last week, let's bet them, But then we know

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:08.480
<v Speaker 1>we really should fade them. We talked about liking the Jags.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to know from your opinion, are you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling strongly about the Jags. I am not feeling strongly

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<v Speaker 1>about the Jags, but I could understand if you did,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would be persuadable.

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<v Speaker 2>You know why, Simon, you know why I'm agreeable.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we both agree it's just about the number, right,

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<v Speaker 5>Like at the three, I think we both kind of

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<v Speaker 5>like taking the Jags of the dog here. But I

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<v Speaker 5>just maybe maybe it's just the Trevor Lawrence thing. I

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<v Speaker 5>just I hate having money on them and I don't

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<v Speaker 5>trust them.

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<v Speaker 3>So at the three I like it for two and

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<v Speaker 3>a half.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just there's no way I'm going to make people

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<v Speaker 5>invest money into this game. And the Herbert side, I

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<v Speaker 5>know a couple of pros I taking a position on

0:24:52.400 --> 0:24:53.879
<v Speaker 5>them in this game because they like the match with

0:24:53.880 --> 0:25:00.199
<v Speaker 5>them in the sense that this Jaguars defense just I

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<v Speaker 5>mean went through an absolute ringer the week before. Historically

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:05.959
<v Speaker 5>these defenses fail the next week. Right, If you have

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:08.200
<v Speaker 5>a defense that gives a twenty points or more, it's

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<v Speaker 5>never good to follow in the weekend. Even more so,

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<v Speaker 5>you know a team like that, how do they react

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<v Speaker 5>to it? A first year head coach, how does you

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<v Speaker 5>react to giving up twenty nine.

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Points in the fourth quarter of Davis Mills the week before? Chad.

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<v Speaker 5>So, we have a lot of stuff we've been into

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<v Speaker 5>here situationally that I don't love. And when you dive

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<v Speaker 5>into all the trends and anything like that, it's historically

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<v Speaker 5>a terrible spot for Trevor Lawrence.

0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 2>And what isn't what isn't a terrible spot right.

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<v Speaker 5>Because he just his whole career has been that way,

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, I'm just very uneasy about it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I both I think we both agree.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like this is usually where we go against the Chargers,

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<v Speaker 5>but the Joe Alt things kind of making a fuzzy

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<v Speaker 5>form where it's like it's making me love the Jaguars.

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm trying to talk myself out of it. There's other

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:52.239
<v Speaker 5>games I should have my money and don't go too

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<v Speaker 5>heavy on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Two.

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<v Speaker 5>Like we said, hard Rock right now is mine two

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<v Speaker 5>and a half. To me, that's a Chargers line. If

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 5>you want to take a position and I won't fault you,

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm going to be on the Jags play three.

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<v Speaker 3>That just feels like a smarter side.

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<v Speaker 5>But I just don't know how Herbert's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>against a front and in a matchup that offensively. I think,

0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 5>you know, if Trevor Lawrence can move the ball downfield,

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:14.959
<v Speaker 5>they should be great matchup. But he might be down

0:26:15.000 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 5>his number number two receiver again, Chad, it's a big deal.

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Right Brian Thomas Junior might not be playing. Travis Hunter

0:26:21.680 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>is out for the season now with a knee injury.

0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:26.439
<v Speaker 1>Who could have seen a slightly built two way player

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:28.560
<v Speaker 1>not being able to make it through the season. That

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>seems crazy to me. Yeah, he's a TONI he's a tony.

0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:39.560
<v Speaker 1>There is a lot of social media sleuthing going on,

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:43.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of memes on Twitter of Liam Khne just

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<v Speaker 1>looking as disgusted as we are by Trevor Lawrence. The Internet,

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 1>for all its failings, sometimes is right. And you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if all the rumblings about Liam Kohne just not

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>being able to move on with Trevor Lawrence starts to

0:27:05.760 --> 0:27:09.879
<v Speaker 1>become a reality, is there a little bit of truth

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 1>in the memes? That's what I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, It's just year one, so I just can't I

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 5>can't overact too much to it. Yeah, if Trevor Lawrence

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.560
<v Speaker 5>doesn't grow and improve this offseason in this offense, and

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:26.920
<v Speaker 5>next year he's still doing these mistakes, I could see

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:31.040
<v Speaker 5>ownership taking Liam's side over Trevor lawrence side. Like they've

0:27:31.040 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 5>given Trevor enough time in years you've seen his offense.

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 5>It works in my opinion, like the run block and

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 5>all of it. I think the offensive scheme works. I

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.399
<v Speaker 5>just don't know if the quarterback is the right piece.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he'd rather have Mac Jones right.

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Now, donate that got him on the cheat right.

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 1>He had him, they had him, and he left. Maybe

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:57.080
<v Speaker 1>he'd be the better option for this offense. Hey, listen,

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Mac Jones. He's a quarterback in the

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>NFC West. The two top teams in the NFC West

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<v Speaker 1>are the Seattle Seahawks and the Los Angeles Rams. Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have a deep conversation about this one because

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the Los Angeles Rams are going to be our brass

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:21.760
<v Speaker 1>balls Better the Week presented by hard Rock Bett.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what it takes brass balls there.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we had a long conversation on Tuesday about Seattle,

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.280
<v Speaker 1>and I think we both have sort of come to

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:36.400
<v Speaker 1>the conclusion that we like the Rams here.

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>For me, it was about some of the research I did.

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>On the matchups and the schemes despite seattle defensive prowess,

0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:46.800
<v Speaker 1>and how the Rams can take advantage of that. You

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:48.680
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of blowback from the wise guys, and

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>this one might be I'm not going to say bullying.

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 2>You, but effectively debating.

0:28:54.400 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 1>You, positioning you, changing your mind, moving you off your opinion.

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Tell me what you heard, why it change for you.

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>I will share with you some of what I've researched

0:29:05.400 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 1>and why it changed for me, But we both came

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:08.760
<v Speaker 1>to that independently.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I just honestly my model like Seattle and I

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 5>like Seat. Just the way they've been playing, I thought

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 5>this would be a great matchup for them, But like

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 5>you said, the more you dive into it, there's some weaknesses.

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:21.680
<v Speaker 5>Let's see how defense that we know the Rams will exploit,

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:25.560
<v Speaker 5>and it's a unique game in a matchup, and it's

0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 5>it's I'm happy we have some strong opinions on it

0:29:28.640 --> 0:29:30.520
<v Speaker 5>because it is probably the best game of the week

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:33.440
<v Speaker 5>And early in the week I was like, am I

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 5>really going to bet heavy on one side or the

0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:37.120
<v Speaker 5>other end this game? Because it's such two really good teams.

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I think Evan had this amazing stat. It's

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 5>the first time in NFL history we've had two teams

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 5>matchup week ten or later that are both seventy seven

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 5>percent against the spread and straight up matched up this late.

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 5>So it's really unique where it's like two teams. Betters

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 5>have loved profit it off heavily this season. Got to

0:29:58.440 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 5>pick a spot. Now, I thought most books would be split.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.760
<v Speaker 5>It's honestly really heavy the money towards this Ram side,

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:07.560
<v Speaker 5>and we've seen some three and a half spop up,

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.000
<v Speaker 5>So if you do like the Rams, I would grab

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:11.360
<v Speaker 5>it now. I do think it could get the three

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:13.000
<v Speaker 5>and a half by game time, just because so much

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 5>professional money is coming to the Rams here. And it's

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 5>really about McVeigh. Right in his career against Seattle, he's

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 5>just done so well and it's we always saw these

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 5>divisional teams these matchups. Certain teams just know how to

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:31.600
<v Speaker 5>play against certain defenses. And it doesn't matter that they

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 5>had a regime change for Seattle, he still owned them

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 5>since that change.

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 3>So just a.

0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 5>McVeigh in his career twelve and five against the spread

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 5>against Seattle and since twenty nineteen he's eleven and two

0:30:45.040 --> 0:30:48.960
<v Speaker 5>against the spread. So just interesting. McVeigh has just dominated

0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 5>this franchise for so long now. And with Stafford, I

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 5>was like, okay, is there a bump with the Stafford

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 5>because this is by far the best quarterback he's had.

0:30:57.960 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 5>In that run, He's five and oh straight up one

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 5>and one against the spread against Seattle, covering by them

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 5>with seven points per game.

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:09.080
<v Speaker 3>So Staffords just dominated this matchup. And you know, I

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:10.280
<v Speaker 3>agree with you.

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 5>I probably overrated this Seattle defense a little too much

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 5>because they really have not faced a juggernaut path of quarterbacks.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 5>They've had an easy kind of go here. So I

0:31:19.680 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 5>think this will be a true test for them. And

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 5>we're getting a great number with the Rams team that's

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 5>just playing insanely well. One last amazing stat I saw

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:27.920
<v Speaker 5>Evan post.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>Again.

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.080
<v Speaker 5>I love stupid stats like this because it's just when

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 5>you really look into it, it's actually pretty smart. Since

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:38.880
<v Speaker 5>twenty twenty four, when the Rams have seven games and

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:41.479
<v Speaker 5>they commit three penalties or less in those seven games,

0:31:41.880 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 5>the following game they were seven to zero against the

0:31:43.720 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 5>spread in that matchup, it's zero penalties last week.

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Why is that smart though? What is that telling you?

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:50.200
<v Speaker 2>What's the correlation there?

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:53.560
<v Speaker 5>That they're just playing sound football, which is like you see,

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.920
<v Speaker 5>all these other teams are super sloppy right now, Like

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 5>that we joke that Raiders game the Raiders had nine penalties.

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 5>You don't really win like that, especially when you only

0:32:01.400 --> 0:32:04.240
<v Speaker 5>score seven points. The flip side, the Rams are putting

0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 5>up thirty five points and against a divisional opponent, Evan

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.240
<v Speaker 5>zero penalties on the road.

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 3>That's just really impressive to me.

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 5>It just shows when McVeigh, you know, he gets these

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 5>guys playing at a high level and they're in sync

0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:17.760
<v Speaker 5>like this, they just keep it rolling. So I just

0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:19.560
<v Speaker 5>love that stack because just shows this team is just

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:21.880
<v Speaker 5>polly In tuned right now with everything.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 3>And you know, like we've been saying the.

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:27.520
<v Speaker 5>Rams fluky fluky loss against that Eagles team, and you know,

0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 5>they could easily be the number one seed right now NFC.

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:31.440
<v Speaker 3>They've been playing like the best for sure.

0:32:32.240 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 1>So a couple other things to keep in mind. You

0:32:36.960 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>just mentioned the money coming in on on the Rams.

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>The public is all over Seattle like this is a

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>pros Joker game. It is a they are the public

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>dog here. That's number one.

0:32:50.720 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Number two.

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned some softness in the Seahawks defense where they

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>are worst, and they're not bad at much, but where

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they are worst is defending against tight ends. And all

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.040
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the Los Angeles Rams have become the

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:09.440
<v Speaker 1>highest tight end usage team in the NFL. They're going

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>four deep sometimes on tight ends. So we've been seeing

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>that and it's super exciting to watch, but it's also

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:19.840
<v Speaker 1>devastating if you've bet against the Rams. I don't want

0:33:19.840 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to be on the other side of the Rams and

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:25.480
<v Speaker 1>thirteen personnel and Matthew Stafford against a team that has

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 1>not been playing very well against tight ends and in

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a game where something small like that is what the

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>difference is going to be, right, It's going to be,

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, tied game weight. And the Rams have the

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:42.040
<v Speaker 1>ball with ninety seconds left from their own twenty yard line,

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:47.360
<v Speaker 1>and Matthew Stafford finds Parkinson down the scene for thirty five.

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Yards and gets them into field goal range.

0:33:48.800 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Like that could easily happen, and that could be that

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.360
<v Speaker 1>weakness could be the difference in the game. And I

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>don't mind fading the public in this spot.

0:33:57.760 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 3>Agree.

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 5>And DeVante Adams not practice this week, but he got

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 5>interview and he basically said, like I'm gonna be out

0:34:03.400 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 5>there and be playing. I'm not going to miss this game,

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 5>So don't be worried. If Divided it doesn't practice all week.

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 5>I think you'll I'll still play, even I believe you

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 5>is a bad hip, but I believe you'll still play.

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles Rams Brass Balls Better than Week presented by

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 1>hard Rock Bet. Speaking of receivers who are injured and

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 1>their status being questionable or debated, The Samfisco forty nine

0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>ers are at Arizona Arizona is a three point dog.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:35.880
<v Speaker 1>We liked Arizona on Tuesday. It was at two and

0:34:35.920 --> 0:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>a half. We wanted it to get to three. It

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>did get to three. I don't know about you. I

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>bett did three. Marvin Harrison Junior is out with an appendectomy.

0:34:47.360 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that matters to me. This is to me.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>This is about Jacoby Brissett and Trey McBride, and we're

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>just talking about tight ends and a Niners defense that

0:34:56.560 --> 0:35:01.760
<v Speaker 1>cannot rush the passer right now has at the center

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 1>of its defense a new signal caller replacing Fred Wonner

0:35:06.160 --> 0:35:09.479
<v Speaker 1>who's played well. But it's still different when you're playing

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 1>against an all Pro tight end caliber tight end like

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Trey McBride.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm with you.

0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 5>Other car knows it's another game though, just like a

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 5>Jags or I'm just betting this number.

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't really feel that great about so you might

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 3>have more opinions on this one than me. I simply

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:25.360
<v Speaker 3>just took this number number. Obviously.

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Harris News sucks like that as much you want to

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.919
<v Speaker 5>downplay it, he is their number one. He's a big,

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.839
<v Speaker 5>big target who with Brissette seem like he's been playing

0:35:34.840 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 5>pretty well, so not ideal, but like you said, we're

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 5>just playing the number year in the matchup, and I

0:35:40.400 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 5>just I can't have this fur NiTi team catching more

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:46.160
<v Speaker 5>than three points against anybody, let alone a divisional foe

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 5>that can move the ball offensively. Like you said, train wrecks.

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.920
<v Speaker 5>Start to that game against Seattle. They fought, played well

0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 5>throughout the game, and moved the ball pretty well. So

0:35:57.160 --> 0:36:00.120
<v Speaker 5>it's it's it's a good number, but man, is it's

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:00.759
<v Speaker 5>a gross game.

0:36:01.520 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to hear my ependectomy story?

0:36:06.560 --> 0:36:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Not really.

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 2>The story is about how.

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:13.240
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to close the NFL preview at ESPN,

0:36:13.280 --> 0:36:17.919
<v Speaker 1>the magazine and I wasn't feeling well and for two

0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:23.319
<v Speaker 1>days I stayed in the office, barely leaving because my

0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 1>boss at the time it was the first NFL preview

0:36:25.640 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>we were ever closing, and my boss was like, she

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.440
<v Speaker 1>was like, you don't look good, but we really need you.

0:36:32.440 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 1>You're running this issue, we need you to be here

0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to close it. I under my desk. I had to

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 1>be removed and taken by ambulance to the hospital for

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:48.400
<v Speaker 1>an emergency appandectomy, which I stayed in the hospital for

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>ten days after.

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Did you not know this?

0:36:52.040 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Because I was closing the NFL preview for ESPN the

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 1>magazine in nineteen ninety eight.

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 2>But here's the kicker. Here's the kicker.

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:04.120
<v Speaker 1>After the surgery, we had like our reviews and my

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.759
<v Speaker 1>boss at the time, who I ended up quitting esp

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 1>IN the magazine because I just could not stand her.

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>She was one of the worst people I've ever worked,

0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>who was still to this day horrible boss. Stole every idea,

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:22.919
<v Speaker 1>what would not like, give me any help with assignments,

0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 1>did not try to grow me in any particular way.

0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 1>In my review that year, she gave me the equivalent

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:39.399
<v Speaker 1>of a check minus in Disney grading rules for attendance,

0:37:39.640 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>essentially at work. And I'm like, what do you mean.

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:47.319
<v Speaker 1>She goes, well, you know you were gone for two

0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:52.400
<v Speaker 1>weeks in June. I'm like, that was my honeymoon. I

0:37:52.440 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>just started four weeks earlier and everyone knew I was

0:37:54.680 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 1>getting married. She's like, and then there was that time

0:37:57.280 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 1>like in September where you were gone for like two

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.799
<v Speaker 1>and a half weeks. I'm like, when I had when

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:05.880
<v Speaker 1>an ambulance came and took me out because I had

0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>an emergency appendectomy. The point of the story, Simon, I

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:13.839
<v Speaker 1>played through it.

0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Did you. It seems like the appendix one. I closed it,

0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 3>put you down for ten days.

0:38:21.080 --> 0:38:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I closed the issue. The point was, I closed the issue.

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 3>We had.

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 5>I had a buddy with it, basically the same thing,

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.279
<v Speaker 5>but unlike you, he was. It was college and he's

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.840
<v Speaker 5>boozing drinking. He goes, I think something's wrong. Is the

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:35.560
<v Speaker 5>same thing where it's like right down, like above the crotch,

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:37.320
<v Speaker 5>like below the stomach kind.

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 5>So basically the same thing as you where you probably

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:43.240
<v Speaker 5>have like a sharp pain in that area. Yeah, And

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 5>he can't He basically couldn't stand up right a part.

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 3>He says, he can't stand up.

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:48.719
<v Speaker 5>He said, so much pain, And I go, dude, you

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.600
<v Speaker 5>should go to a hospital if you're in that much pain.

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:53.360
<v Speaker 5>He goes, but I feel fine sitting here. It's just

0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 5>when I stand up, I can't stand up. And I

0:38:56.160 --> 0:38:58.480
<v Speaker 5>basically buddy put him on his shoulder and carried him

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 5>down the street to a look doctor took.

0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.040
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't sound like he was so committed to his job.

0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:06.480
<v Speaker 1>He stayed at the office for two days in agony

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 1>to close the NFL preview issue.

0:39:08.480 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 2>We haven't even really talked about the time.

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>That I wrote a cover story for ESPN the magazine,

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh after I had broken my back in a cab accident.

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 2>Next time, we'll get to that one.

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Baltimore at Cleveland, this one was change choice when

0:39:26.520 --> 0:39:28.319
<v Speaker 1>it was eight and a half. The number of hard

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 1>rock is now down to seven and a half. You

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.719
<v Speaker 1>mentioned there's some lingering news or issue news about a

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>knee issue with Lamar Jackson, But we were all over

0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 1>this before. I'm glad here that the wise guys are

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>into it too. Give me some feedback on what they

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>were telling you. I have some thoughts on a very

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:48.439
<v Speaker 1>specific point that you and I discussed about this game

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the other day. But tell me what the wise guys

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>were telling you and how you're feeling about this forty

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>for forty eight hours later.

0:39:55.680 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 5>Well, like I said, it feels like not that we

0:39:57.120 --> 0:39:58.600
<v Speaker 5>locked into it, but it should. The spot we both

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:00.919
<v Speaker 5>loved were they. I feel like most of them knew

0:40:01.000 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 5>something was up with Lamar, that he was a little

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:04.760
<v Speaker 5>banged up from that game, and they were taking position

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:06.760
<v Speaker 5>on it because ifyew of it. If you're already getting

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 5>a bank of Lamore and he does play, you're handicapping

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.120
<v Speaker 5>him because he's not gonna have the same Russian ability

0:40:11.120 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 5>against one of the best defensive lines in all football.

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 5>So the early line move as a shocked. I am

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 5>shocked though it has stuck at seven and a half.

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 5>I thought this would be just like that Houston Tennessee

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 5>linehere the book would head a little bit right, move

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.960
<v Speaker 5>it down to seven, maybe six and a half, just

0:40:25.040 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 5>in case Lamar is out in this game. So they

0:40:27.680 --> 0:40:30.520
<v Speaker 5>must must be pretty positive confident that Lamar does play,

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:33.240
<v Speaker 5>which I don't know how you can trust the Ravens

0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 5>right now, Like I just anything hardball says to me.

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:37.400
<v Speaker 3>It's just I don't.

0:40:37.160 --> 0:40:39.919
<v Speaker 5>Believe any of it now, Like I'll believe it come

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 5>Friday practice if he's with the first team, and you

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:47.719
<v Speaker 5>know that's reported by reporters, not the team itself. So yeah,

0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 5>it's I'm so glad we got the early line on Cleveland,

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 5>but it's it's a tough game to try to handicap

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 5>now because we really don't know if it's obviously if

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.400
<v Speaker 5>it's not Lamar, I mean, we're elated. I would tell

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 5>people to bet now if you really think that. But

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 5>I do think Wamar plays. I just he's such a competitor.

0:41:04.239 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 5>He's missed so much time. I just unless he's really

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 5>really banged up and he can't move, I can't see

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:10.279
<v Speaker 5>him missing this one.

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.600
<v Speaker 3>But for us, I wanted to play like I banged

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 3>up Lamar.

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean it's it's a great, great matchup for Miles

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:20.439
<v Speaker 5>Garrett and the boys and just dive into this game more.

0:41:21.080 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 5>We talked a little bit about it. It's I'm not

0:41:23.280 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 5>putting so much faith in Dylan Gabriel. I still think

0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 5>he's got issues, but I do think this cleand team

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:30.399
<v Speaker 5>better run the ball against his Ravens team. I don't

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.879
<v Speaker 5>think has fixed all of their issues. So yeah, still

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 5>love the numbers, still love the matchup. It's just what

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.239
<v Speaker 5>will this number end up being. Hopefully people grabbed the eight

0:41:39.200 --> 0:41:40.719
<v Speaker 5>and a half when he gave it out.

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about betting it at seven and

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>a half?

0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 3>I still bet it, just because it's just the unknown

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:46.560
<v Speaker 3>of Lamar.

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm just I don't want people to go too crazy.

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 5>Because he does come back, this will definitely get back

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 5>to eight. I think eight and a half. Unless the

0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:56.919
<v Speaker 5>professionals really keep this down, I can't see it happens.

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:58.840
<v Speaker 5>It's just gonna be so much public money on this

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 5>Ravens team. They're just one of the most belove teams

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.760
<v Speaker 5>of football right now, especially by the betting and public.

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 5>They've just exactly what everyone predicted it to happen with

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:08.840
<v Speaker 5>them has happened Lamar even before he came back in

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 5>with the backup, they've won it covered. It feels like

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 5>three games in a row here and they've totally flipped

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 5>that division with a losing record, They're the big odds

0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 5>on favorite win that division. So it's just I don't

0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.240
<v Speaker 5>want people put us too much here into this number,

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 5>just in case he does come back. But how can

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:25.400
<v Speaker 5>you that throw a little on if you didn't mistay

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 5>and a half. They're a little here on the seven

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.520
<v Speaker 5>and a half on this Browns team, just in case

0:42:28.719 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 5>it has known little more and this does move by

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 5>another three or four points.

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 1>We talked the other day about how much better the

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Browns are at home than on the road, so I

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:41.239
<v Speaker 1>did do a little research on it. The Browns at

0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.439
<v Speaker 1>home since the beginning of last season, when we really

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.359
<v Speaker 1>started to notice this trend, give up twenty points per

0:42:47.400 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 1>game at home twenty nine points per game on the roads,

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.839
<v Speaker 1>with thirty percent less at home. They also give up

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>thirty percent fewer rushing yards at home than on the road,

0:42:57.400 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 1>ninety five versus one hundred and thirty nine. They also

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.799
<v Speaker 1>give up like ten percent for your passing yards. But

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>being at home does make a difference, you know, we

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:06.880
<v Speaker 1>talked about all the time. It could be the grass.

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 1>It's obviously there's nuances, a plant of the will. The

0:43:09.600 --> 0:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>weather certainly makes a difference. I also think, like the noise,

0:43:14.239 --> 0:43:17.359
<v Speaker 1>those fans are still rabid, and I think the dove

0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>pound matters. I just do like that it makes a

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>difference for that team, and I think the fans know

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it so the I like the Browns. They were shots choice.

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Presented by hard Rock Bets. Speaking of what's to a

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:32.960
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<v Speaker 1>hard rock There's still a bunch of fours out there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. This was almost almost your Simon says.

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<v Speaker 2>We heard about it on sharp Calls. JK.

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<v Speaker 1>Dobbins. Probably not planned because of a foot injury. He

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<v Speaker 1>may end up going on injured Reserve. They've been very

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<v Speaker 1>mom about it. Are you still there?

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<v Speaker 3>Still on it?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm definitely leaking a little confidence here because I thought

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<v Speaker 5>this would be all pros on this Broncos team. But

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<v Speaker 5>I just don't think guys trust bow Knicks.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's either.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean that's fair. He's just he's regressed in

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of ways. But I'm glad I saw a

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<v Speaker 5>good Champayton stat that gives me a little confidence at least.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, this is a good.

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<v Speaker 5>Champ Payton game where basically, if his teams only convert

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<v Speaker 5>one red zone trip in two consecutive games in his career,

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<v Speaker 5>they are fourteen and two straight up in that third

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<v Speaker 5>game five and one against the spread in his career.

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<v Speaker 3>So take what you want from that. It's it really looks.

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's the type of thing where he just gets

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<v Speaker 5>his offenses to bounce back and situationally after you know

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<v Speaker 5>it's been a rough go. Like I'll be the first

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<v Speaker 5>of him at this that Denver's game was atrocious. They

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<v Speaker 5>should have won that game by twenty points or more,

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<v Speaker 5>and just Bonicks gave him nothing and they didn't trust him,

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<v Speaker 5>Like they just were not letting them throw at certain

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<v Speaker 5>points because they just did not trust to putting the

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<v Speaker 5>ball downfield.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, this is just an interesting spot.

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<v Speaker 5>So just like the fact in the last decade, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Champagne seven to zero in the spot with the Broncos

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<v Speaker 5>used two and zero straight up and against the spread

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<v Speaker 5>in this exact spot where he's basically had a really

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<v Speaker 5>struggling offense and they bounced back in these games.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know about you.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just the Mahomes factor, because Mahomes, just I looked at,

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<v Speaker 5>historically dominates the Broncos in these games. He's been just

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<v Speaker 5>great divisionally on the road. But I just I can't

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<v Speaker 5>get to the fact how bad the Broncos have been

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<v Speaker 5>his whole career he's been on the chief So it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>I know, Bonnicks is no different those quarterbacks. I'm maybe

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<v Speaker 5>I'm overrating him still too much, But it just feels

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<v Speaker 5>like a lot of points for this this Chiefs team

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<v Speaker 5>going against a really good defense where I.

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<v Speaker 3>Have some questions still about this Chiefs defense.

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<v Speaker 5>There's still some ways I think they have holes that

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<v Speaker 5>teams have exploited, and the biggest one to be passing

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<v Speaker 5>downfield against them. So I know, I just that's why

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't make it sense. I just don't want to make

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<v Speaker 5>people invest once again in this Broncos team. I have

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<v Speaker 5>some other gross dogs I like better than this one,

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<v Speaker 5>but I'm on it. I've taken a pretty large position

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<v Speaker 5>on it at this point, but maybe I'll temperate as

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<v Speaker 5>we head into the weekend. I won't be put too

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<v Speaker 5>much in because just thought of Bonix as making me sick.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like every time Bonnicks starts, he's so

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<v Speaker 1>amped up he could throw the ball through a wall.

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<v Speaker 1>And they missed so many opportunities in those first fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>scripted where Sean Payton and a lot of coaches are

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<v Speaker 1>at their best and it's usually calming for most quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>and BONNICKX look like he's ready to jump out of

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium. And I also worry this defense without Pat

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<v Speaker 1>Certain against the Chiefs, that's a different kind of test

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<v Speaker 1>that they haven't really had since Certain was out, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a much more difficult proposition for them. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't love betting the Homes as a favorite of more

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<v Speaker 1>than three. I get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Peyton in this spot. I get it.

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<v Speaker 5>You should say that it is Chiefs off of Bye,

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<v Speaker 5>which we have in the past.

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<v Speaker 3>We just automatically bet it, right, But true, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not bought

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<v Speaker 1>in on Denver at all here. I have not been

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<v Speaker 1>even the other day when you know it's at four

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<v Speaker 1>and you're hammering it and.

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<v Speaker 3>Can give you some defensive stats that might help a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's here.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just like it's like I'm trying to find a

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<v Speaker 5>reason there because I just it's just this number.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't get over it. But defensive reason defense.

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<v Speaker 5>So they have forty plus sacks and this season they're

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<v Speaker 5>holding opponents on third down to less than three percent

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<v Speaker 5>conversion rate. They're the only defense to do that since

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<v Speaker 5>nineteen ninety other than the two thousand Bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that team, right, So it's like covered that Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl nice, Yeah, it was a sick one. I just

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<v Speaker 3>I look at this.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm just maybe I'm betting the defense here, like that

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<v Speaker 5>Houston game, and I got to stop thinking about bow knicks.

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<v Speaker 5>But we're gonna need him to make plays. That's the

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<v Speaker 5>hardest part here. It's like you're gonna need them to

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<v Speaker 5>show up. It's just brutal, brutal reals. So yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know if ial fortunate to be one of our

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<v Speaker 5>fives this week. If I'm really gonna be like Chad,

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<v Speaker 5>you gotta make guy take this one.

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<v Speaker 3>If it was four and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>I probably could have got you there, But like you said,

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<v Speaker 5>the fours have comeback down. The three and a half

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<v Speaker 5>feels like it's going to be out. So I do

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<v Speaker 5>like the Broncos, but there's other dogs I like better.

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<v Speaker 1>This week Detroit at Philadelphia. You turned me around on this.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet the Eagles at two and a half. That

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<v Speaker 1>is where the number is right now. It's not the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the number, but it's still below three. I

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<v Speaker 1>still liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>I reran my model, because you know, I got a model.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked on it during the off season with my

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<v Speaker 1>intern from Harvard's stats department, not even kidding. And I think,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can give me a good team that came

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<v Speaker 1>off of a tight win against a good team that

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<v Speaker 1>just had a big win, I'm still going to get

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<v Speaker 1>value on the good team off.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the tight win. So I started to come around

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<v Speaker 2>on the Eagles.

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<v Speaker 1>You're saying from the wise guys that it seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>it was split, but you kinda had me buy into

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<v Speaker 1>the Eagles the other day when I think I was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to lean towards the Lions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I the hesitation, I feel like is a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>the why Gus you are taking positions on the Lions because

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<v Speaker 5>of all those crazy numbers and trends about golf in

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<v Speaker 5>prime time at night and how good himmc.

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<v Speaker 3>Cambell have been covered. They're like covering machines.

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<v Speaker 5>I think they're like sure, something like twenty five minute

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<v Speaker 5>against the spread. It's just something insane in these night games.

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<v Speaker 5>And then you factor in a stat we gave it

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<v Speaker 5>ear in the year, right when they blow teams out,

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<v Speaker 5>they cover at an insane rate. They're like a seventy

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<v Speaker 5>percent cover rate after they win by seven points or

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<v Speaker 5>more the following game. So we know all this, we

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<v Speaker 5>know what we're walking through. This is a really good team,

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<v Speaker 5>the Lions. Like we said, it's about the number, so

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<v Speaker 5>still like it. I mean we talked on Tuesday. Was

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<v Speaker 5>there was a couple one and a halfs out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like as soon as the show was posted, they

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<v Speaker 5>were gone. Right, that got immediately up to two and

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<v Speaker 5>a half of basically every book, and.

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<v Speaker 3>We moved hard Rock was hard Rock was the last one.

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<v Speaker 5>Though hard Rock held at the two for a while,

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<v Speaker 5>and they did eventually move to a three and then

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<v Speaker 5>immediately went down to So there is a ton of

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<v Speaker 5>resistance to the three I feel like for professionals here

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<v Speaker 5>with the Lions, which I do get in matchup wise.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I said, I don't know if the books are

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<v Speaker 5>accounting for how good this defensive line now is for

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 5>this Eagles team with the upgrade to the position, because

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.520
<v Speaker 5>for about four weeks there we had just two or

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.959
<v Speaker 5>three guys. We had no rotation. So you saw last

0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 5>week having guys submit and out. It's just fresh lugs.

0:52:21.400 --> 0:52:23.799
<v Speaker 5>Is such a huge deal with these defensive fronts. How

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:28.080
<v Speaker 5>hard these guys run and work. And the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 5>I guess would be, well, Eagles are on a short week, right,

0:52:31.719 --> 0:52:35.839
<v Speaker 5>they traveled, you know, from Green Bay to this game home,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess. But to me it's the same with the Lions.

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<v Speaker 5>They were on the road against Washington and historically, actually

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 5>golf isn't great on back to back road games that

0:52:44.719 --> 0:52:47.360
<v Speaker 5>are both outdoors, which again I know it's stupid stats,

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:50.719
<v Speaker 5>but all the stats for him are really dominant indoors,

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<v Speaker 5>Like it's insane. So we got to grasp with Charles.

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<v Speaker 5>We came people, it's he is a different and not

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<v Speaker 5>as good outdoors and matchup wise, I just keep getting

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<v Speaker 5>back to this Eagle's offense, as much as they have struggled,

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 5>this a trick team has so many injuries like this

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<v Speaker 5>is the exact type of defense you'd want to face, Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>for an Eagles team that needs to get right. So

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<v Speaker 5>I expect after a week filled with drama. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know if you saw all the aj Brown stuff once again,

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<v Speaker 5>but oh yeah, basically was for the first time, honest,

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<v Speaker 5>which felt good to hear what actually is going on

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<v Speaker 5>rather than like these news reporters dictating how he's feeling

0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 5>through his Instagram, which is just shows a level of

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<v Speaker 5>sports media reporting right now.

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<v Speaker 3>If that's what we're going off.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't to impugne the media.

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<v Speaker 1>This isn't This isn't about how bad the media is.

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<v Speaker 1>Although if you watch you know social media, boy, they

0:53:42.480 --> 0:53:45.520
<v Speaker 1>ask a lot of stupid questions and open locker rooms

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and press conferences.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah there you go chat.

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<v Speaker 5>So I just he basically said it's him and Jaile

0:53:52.239 --> 0:53:55.239
<v Speaker 5>have no issues. Jalen's playing well, He's doing what's being

0:53:55.320 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 5>asked of him. He's got no problems with the OC.

0:53:58.280 --> 0:54:00.919
<v Speaker 5>He's doing what's being asked of him. So that leaves

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 5>one person he's got issues with, and that's a big

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 5>deal with's Sirianni.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll see what happens.

0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:09.360
<v Speaker 5>Basically that it came out that him Syrianny had a

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 5>call and that fourth down play and hurts and AJ

0:54:11.840 --> 0:54:14.920
<v Speaker 5>went rogue and just said it's it's going to you

0:54:14.960 --> 0:54:15.480
<v Speaker 5>no matter what.

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:19.040
<v Speaker 3>Go deep. So there's a ton of drama.

0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, a couple of weeks ago against the Box,

0:54:21.120 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 1>was it is that we talking about?

0:54:22.320 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 3>No last week?

0:54:23.200 --> 0:54:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Last week? I don't remember the play.

0:54:25.719 --> 0:54:28.160
<v Speaker 5>It was fourth It was fourth down for our lives.

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:30.600
<v Speaker 5>The Eagles should have either pumped or kicked a field

0:54:30.680 --> 0:54:32.920
<v Speaker 5>goal against green Bay and they went for it. You

0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:34.320
<v Speaker 5>don't remember this fourth on like it was like a

0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:36.040
<v Speaker 5>fourth and eleven or something crazy.

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I went to bed at this point.

0:54:38.480 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Well, he took a deep shot to AJ and it

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.960
<v Speaker 5>was incomplete and they left basically thirty seconds left for

0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 5>green Bay that maybe tie with a field goal at

0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:44.359
<v Speaker 5>end the game.

0:54:44.800 --> 0:54:46.279
<v Speaker 3>So it was just people were like, what the hell,

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 3>why wou's.

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 5>Henny call that play? And he basically was just like,

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:51.520
<v Speaker 5>I didn't call that. They they checked out it. So

0:54:52.440 --> 0:54:53.839
<v Speaker 5>there is a ton of drama, and I get why

0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:55.719
<v Speaker 5>people are freaking out about this Eagles team, but just

0:54:55.760 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 5>look at the matchup on the field. I just love

0:54:57.560 --> 0:55:00.640
<v Speaker 5>this matchup for this Eagles team, and the public's flyin

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:03.399
<v Speaker 5>into a little bit. Like you said, the lines they're

0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 5>getting all the money, all the tickets right now, they

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 5>are heavily a public dog, and then the line is

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:08.839
<v Speaker 5>moving against him.

0:55:08.880 --> 0:55:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I said, it's hit three to a couple of books.

0:55:10.920 --> 0:55:14.359
<v Speaker 5>So if it touches three comes Sunday, I will feel

0:55:14.440 --> 0:55:16.839
<v Speaker 5>much better about our Eagles position because I mean some

0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:18.840
<v Speaker 5>real pro money is coming again on the two and

0:55:18.880 --> 0:55:21.040
<v Speaker 5>a half, which most people listening, that's what they're taking

0:55:21.080 --> 0:55:22.440
<v Speaker 5>on because right now all the pro money came in

0:55:22.480 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 5>on the one and a half. So love the Eagles here,

0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:28.080
<v Speaker 5>but obviously, like Chad said, we wish we give out

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:28.840
<v Speaker 5>the best of the number.

0:55:29.200 --> 0:55:30.920
<v Speaker 1>You know what, one team I don't worry about when

0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:33.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of drama, The Eagles.

0:55:34.200 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 2>Philly Justice, Welcome to Philly, bitch.

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>There's always drama like there has been drama. I think

0:55:41.000 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Nick Sirianni attracts the drama. I think people wanna like him,

0:55:46.040 --> 0:55:48.600
<v Speaker 1>not like him. I don't think he cares. I think

0:55:48.600 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 1>he says whatever is on his mind. I think he

0:55:50.719 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 1>likes to be partly trolling and enjoys it. And I

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>think the Eagles have the kind of personality that the

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Bears had in the eighties and the Cowboys had in

0:56:00.400 --> 0:56:05.400
<v Speaker 1>the nineties. Like they're just these teams where there's big personalities,

0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a huge amount of talent, and there's always going to

0:56:08.520 --> 0:56:09.920
<v Speaker 1>be some kind of.

0:56:11.520 --> 0:56:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Turmoil in that locker room.

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think it matters, Like I just don't

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:20.840
<v Speaker 1>like that's It's all noise to me, And it's what's.

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 3>That, Sirianni? He is John Madden.

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 5>So they put up the stat the only other quarterback

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 5>that more wins through the first five seasons in NFL

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:33.440
<v Speaker 5>history percentage wise John Madden, And I thought about that comparison.

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 5>It feels so right that man joined a team of

0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:41.040
<v Speaker 5>crazy drama raaders team just the head cases, and no

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 5>one took him serious for about five years, even though

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:47.080
<v Speaker 5>he was leading the league and win percentage. So I'm

0:56:47.080 --> 0:56:48.400
<v Speaker 5>one of those people I hated Tierianni.

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 3>I just hate the way he handled the media that way.

0:56:50.160 --> 0:56:52.239
<v Speaker 5>He talks to the fans all of that, but all

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 5>he does is win and you gotta respect it. And

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:57.160
<v Speaker 5>like you said, he seems like he thrives when there's

0:56:57.200 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 5>tons of in house dramas. So you're right, maybe I'm

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:02.360
<v Speaker 5>over to too much. Strike Just there's so much affilure

0:57:02.440 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 5>right now. I can't get over how bad it is.

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you're in the middle of the white noise.

0:57:06.840 --> 0:57:09.239
<v Speaker 1>You can't get away from it. Whereas like I'm just

0:57:09.239 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 1>seeing it as funny and it's the same story every

0:57:11.560 --> 0:57:13.719
<v Speaker 1>single week and every single year with this team, and

0:57:14.320 --> 0:57:16.840
<v Speaker 1>this team. Honestly, I know they're not being nearly as effective,

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>but there's something about their lack of effectiveness that to me,

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm only watching Jalen Hurts, and Jalen Hurts when he's

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:28.320
<v Speaker 1>on the field doesn't seem bothered by the lack of

0:57:28.360 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>effectiveness he has in the past. This year, it seems

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>like the lack of effectiveness is almost by a choice

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.280
<v Speaker 1>where he's just making the right calls and doing the

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Speaker 1>right things and doing what needs to be one and

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:43.720
<v Speaker 1>not trying to do things to make sort of dramatic

0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>plays for lack of a better term. And so I'm

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:51.720
<v Speaker 1>only watching him and he's just he's unbothered.

0:57:53.760 --> 0:57:54.160
<v Speaker 3>It's fair.

0:57:54.280 --> 0:57:57.760
<v Speaker 5>But like last year, I had a sneaky I guess

0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:59.680
<v Speaker 5>I was thinking because I gave him out heading the year.

0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 3>Bout was just all in on that ego steament.

0:58:01.240 --> 0:58:04.000
<v Speaker 5>Wins Super Bowl, where this year I just have so

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:06.560
<v Speaker 5>many questions where last year I did not. Like I

0:58:06.560 --> 0:58:10.320
<v Speaker 5>had one big question. It was about that defense, and

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:12.680
<v Speaker 5>after the bye week they got it right the Eagles

0:58:12.720 --> 0:58:15.760
<v Speaker 5>after their bye week, the defense looked amazing, but the

0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.200
<v Speaker 5>offense left left a lot to the imagination. So yeah,

0:58:18.240 --> 0:58:20.600
<v Speaker 5>this is like I said, this is a perfect spot

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:23.240
<v Speaker 5>for this egos offense to get right against a banged

0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:24.200
<v Speaker 5>up lines defense.

0:58:25.160 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that crazy Las Vegas Raiders plus three

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and a half Simon Sas against the Dallas Cowboys on

0:58:30.080 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Monday Night. Uh, you gotta want this, you gotta you

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>really gotta want it.

0:58:38.320 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 2>Explain yourself, Simon Hunter on the Las Vegas Raiders.

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:46.720
<v Speaker 5>I still love it the pushback I got for people,

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:48.960
<v Speaker 5>the pros that have talked about this when it is

0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:51.280
<v Speaker 5>that Cowboys did get people back to their defense that

0:58:51.360 --> 0:58:55.080
<v Speaker 5>are coming off into reserved and you know, could that

0:58:55.160 --> 0:58:57.760
<v Speaker 5>be a big upgrade for them, Sure, But my argument

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:00.000
<v Speaker 5>with them is it's like trying to fix a whole

0:59:00.040 --> 0:59:01.880
<v Speaker 5>on the sinking ship with a truly a band aid,

0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 5>Like there they have so many issues. Their top corner

0:59:05.320 --> 0:59:08.760
<v Speaker 5>Bland has no legs anymore. He has no speed, like

0:59:08.840 --> 0:59:11.880
<v Speaker 5>something made him so special from just having a couple injuries,

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:14.960
<v Speaker 5>he's lost it. So I just love this match with

0:59:15.040 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 5>this Raiders offense wise, I just think this is the

0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:20.680
<v Speaker 5>perfect team they match up for them. And defensively, you know,

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:23.040
<v Speaker 5>you've seen the Cowboys have struggle this year. It's whin

0:59:23.080 --> 0:59:25.720
<v Speaker 5>there's facing against a good pass rush. So to me,

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:29.560
<v Speaker 5>Max Crosby, you know, I don't want to get too

0:59:29.600 --> 0:59:32.880
<v Speaker 5>much credence to podcast people, but because you know, every

0:59:32.920 --> 0:59:34.120
<v Speaker 5>week I'm frea might go on his.

0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Pockets and stafe stuff.

0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.720
<v Speaker 5>But I saw this week he's basically playing all these

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 5>clips from people in the media trashing them, saying how

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.000
<v Speaker 5>bad he's been and how that loss was on him,

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:45.440
<v Speaker 5>like he did nothing in that Denver game and they

0:59:45.440 --> 0:59:48.200
<v Speaker 5>can't stop the run, everything like that, And I just

0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:49.880
<v Speaker 5>love that type of thing for him, where he's just.

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Going to be a mental case in this game. So

0:59:52.920 --> 0:59:54.600
<v Speaker 3>it's it's shocking.

0:59:54.400 --> 0:59:56.840
<v Speaker 5>To me that there's no pros on this Raiders team yet.

0:59:56.840 --> 0:59:58.960
<v Speaker 5>But like I said, maybe Sunday Morning shot, I'll have

0:59:58.960 --> 1:00:01.200
<v Speaker 5>more guys join me. But it's just because it's the

1:00:01.240 --> 1:00:03.040
<v Speaker 5>Monday game. I feel like it's either been for the

1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:05.439
<v Speaker 5>pro side at least they're taking the Cowboys, or nothing

1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:06.200
<v Speaker 5>at all at this point.

1:00:07.360 --> 1:00:10.200
<v Speaker 2>All Right, we got a lot to discuss.

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 5>We've got a couple of games you missed that I like, Oh,

1:00:12.800 --> 1:00:16.400
<v Speaker 5>tell me what I miss Where are we at with

1:00:16.480 --> 1:00:17.920
<v Speaker 5>this Panthers team?

1:00:18.240 --> 1:00:19.840
<v Speaker 3>I told you I got a lot of calls about it.

1:00:19.920 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 2>You know what's funny?

1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Are we missing it here?

1:00:24.400 --> 1:00:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if we are too.

1:00:25.960 --> 1:00:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I was actually just scrolling through because I was looking

1:00:28.400 --> 1:00:33.320
<v Speaker 1>ahead to our underdog parlay, and the Panthers jumped out

1:00:33.480 --> 1:00:35.480
<v Speaker 1>as a team that we would want to put.

1:00:35.280 --> 1:00:37.160
<v Speaker 2>In as the underdog parlay.

1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 1>And obviously I've got trepidation because of what's happening with

1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:42.800
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young in the past couple weeks.

1:00:42.840 --> 1:00:44.920
<v Speaker 2>He just hasn't looked good. But I do.

1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Think I think there's much more systemic issues with the

1:00:50.640 --> 1:00:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Falcons than with the Panthers to.

1:00:53.400 --> 1:00:55.720
<v Speaker 5>Be catching three and a half. That's I feel like

1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:58.560
<v Speaker 5>we both aree on that. Yeah, points for a the

1:00:58.600 --> 1:00:59.960
<v Speaker 5>Falcons team that has so many issues.

1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:03.000
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of social media, there was a clip the other

1:01:03.080 --> 1:01:07.760
<v Speaker 1>day I think I saw yesterday on the X platform,

1:01:08.520 --> 1:01:11.680
<v Speaker 1>where Michael Pennix was asked about you know who he

1:01:11.840 --> 1:01:14.960
<v Speaker 1>leans on for support when things aren't going well and

1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:18.160
<v Speaker 1>who gives him advice. He talked about his fiance and

1:01:18.160 --> 1:01:20.920
<v Speaker 1>his high school coach, the people he didn't mention in

1:01:20.960 --> 1:01:23.600
<v Speaker 1>his ears sort of that are helping coach him up

1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Raheem Morris and Zach Robinson, his offensive coordinator and his

1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:29.840
<v Speaker 1>head coach. And I do think we're seeing some of

1:01:29.880 --> 1:01:33.400
<v Speaker 1>this on the field where his performance has not been

1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:36.160
<v Speaker 1>where it should be. But how much of that is

1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 1>on the coaching and how much of that is on

1:01:38.320 --> 1:01:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the play calling. So I do think that there's probably,

1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:45.920
<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better term, better vibes in Carolina.

1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. I guess at the hook, Yeah,

1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we're taking Carolina. That's really what it is.

1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:55.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And we didn't even talk about, which was a

1:01:55.120 --> 1:01:58.720
<v Speaker 5>mistake on my part. Atlanta is coming off an overtime

1:01:58.800 --> 1:02:01.920
<v Speaker 5>game and an international. This has never happened in the

1:02:01.960 --> 1:02:04.400
<v Speaker 5>history of football. Usually it's happened five times, will all

1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:06.439
<v Speaker 5>those teams had bye weeks. It's the first time ever

1:02:06.720 --> 1:02:09.800
<v Speaker 5>a team is playing an overtime game internationally come home

1:02:09.840 --> 1:02:13.320
<v Speaker 5>to play a game so there's there's that part of it,

1:02:13.360 --> 1:02:16.560
<v Speaker 5>and you know the Penix part, you know, like you

1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:19.600
<v Speaker 5>like we said, it's just inconsistent and that's a lot

1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:21.520
<v Speaker 5>of points for end me catching in a divisional matchup

1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:24.520
<v Speaker 5>where the Panthers have surprisingly owned the Falcons these last

1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:27.280
<v Speaker 5>few times they've played. So yeah, I just want to

1:02:27.280 --> 1:02:29.000
<v Speaker 5>make sure I bought this one up. Just don't appel

1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:30.320
<v Speaker 5>to be shocked if we do end up taking this

1:02:30.360 --> 1:02:32.800
<v Speaker 5>one on Sunday. It's a game I'm been into. I

1:02:32.880 --> 1:02:35.520
<v Speaker 5>like the Panthers here, and it's definitely was a miss

1:02:35.520 --> 1:02:37.080
<v Speaker 5>on my part. I should trust of my model, which

1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:38.560
<v Speaker 5>I had at two and a half. I just I

1:02:38.560 --> 1:02:40.600
<v Speaker 5>couldn't get what the books you're doing. You're hanging this number.

1:02:40.600 --> 1:02:42.920
<v Speaker 5>But I do think this comes down to three as

1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:45.320
<v Speaker 5>more professionals coming and bet the Spanther side.

1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:48.200
<v Speaker 1>So all right, I'm into that. I'm into that because,

1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:50.400
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, I think we were struggling to find

1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.720
<v Speaker 1>five that we love, not even like agreed on, just

1:02:53.760 --> 1:02:56.040
<v Speaker 1>like five games that we were really in love with.

1:02:56.160 --> 1:02:58.560
<v Speaker 2>So I could see that and.

1:02:58.480 --> 1:03:00.400
<v Speaker 5>Then before you got just going to throw a two games,

1:03:00.440 --> 1:03:04.040
<v Speaker 5>just I'm line moving while we're doing the show live

1:03:04.760 --> 1:03:06.800
<v Speaker 5>Tampa has moved to plus six at a couple of

1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:12.560
<v Speaker 5>books Jesus, So yeah, that's that's happening as we speak,

1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:15.840
<v Speaker 5>and the Bears are shifting to two and a half.

1:03:16.360 --> 1:03:19.040
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we talked about a little bit.

1:03:19.080 --> 1:03:21.400
<v Speaker 5>We both I feel like we're trying not to We

1:03:21.640 --> 1:03:23.680
<v Speaker 5>both are liking on the Bears at plus three.

1:03:24.720 --> 1:03:26.880
<v Speaker 3>That's just and this was three and a half.

1:03:27.240 --> 1:03:29.000
<v Speaker 2>This was at three and a half by the way,

1:03:29.240 --> 1:03:32.800
<v Speaker 2>last night, So it to me it's about.

1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:34.640
<v Speaker 5>We don't know because we're doing the show right now,

1:03:34.680 --> 1:03:36.919
<v Speaker 5>but it's two and a half everywhere now.

1:03:37.520 --> 1:03:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I do not like the Bears at two and a half.

1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:41.800
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, I like King.

1:03:42.080 --> 1:03:43.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm bringing up for people if they want to grab

1:03:43.560 --> 1:03:45.280
<v Speaker 5>the Bears. I grabbed the three if you can before

1:03:45.320 --> 1:03:45.920
<v Speaker 5>it moves.

1:03:46.520 --> 1:03:47.560
<v Speaker 2>That game was at three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, that the Vikings at two and a

1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:53.760
<v Speaker 1>half might be an interesting play on Sunday, Okay, I

1:03:53.880 --> 1:03:58.680
<v Speaker 1>keep thinking about the Bears keep coming back against really

1:03:58.720 --> 1:04:00.360
<v Speaker 1>bad teams, but like.

1:04:00.400 --> 1:04:02.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, Caleb against the NFC North, right.

1:04:02.680 --> 1:04:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Can I invest in JJ McCarthy. You know, that's just tricky.

1:04:07.920 --> 1:04:13.040
<v Speaker 3>It's a really tricky one in his career, right, end

1:04:13.040 --> 1:04:13.400
<v Speaker 3>of the year.

1:04:13.760 --> 1:04:15.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, So let's let's take a pause here for

1:04:15.960 --> 1:04:19.360
<v Speaker 1>a second, because I want to recap. Cincinnati plus five

1:04:19.360 --> 1:04:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and a half is a game we're both going to

1:04:20.920 --> 1:04:23.720
<v Speaker 1>be on. Houston minus six and a half. The Bucks

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<v Speaker 1>are now a plus six. That's scary. I'm glad we

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<v Speaker 1>really haven't bet that. We know we like the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>plus three. We know we like I mean minus three.

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<v Speaker 1>We know we like Cleveland, uh plus seven and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>plus eight plus eight and a half. We think we

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<v Speaker 1>like Philly, uh minus two and a half. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>love the Raiders, but I do like the Panthers a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Get it. The Raiders are tough. It's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Raiders are tough.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta keep fan This Dallas team is a big favorites.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been profitable this year, fading.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got some decisions to make on Sunday. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me your biggest bets right now. It's it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers might actually be in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Pull up close pants and be a man. They're getting there.

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<v Speaker 5>Like, honestly, I really took a heavy position on Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 5>like we talked about. I really thought not that that

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<v Speaker 5>number was gonna come steaming down because of what we

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<v Speaker 5>were talking about, but got very lucky that I bet

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<v Speaker 5>it before the all the Lamar news. Still like at

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<v Speaker 5>the seven plus seven and a half as long as

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<v Speaker 5>above the seven, rams keep hitting it like I got

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<v Speaker 5>tons on two and a half of a ton of

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<v Speaker 5>minus three. If it gets a minus three and a half,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna be that invested into it. It's all

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<v Speaker 5>about the number here, So if it stays on the three,

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<v Speaker 5>I really think I'd be one of my bigger bets

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<v Speaker 5>comes Sunday, and I'm probably gonna get there. Probably gonna

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<v Speaker 5>get there on this Eagles team. I just right now,

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<v Speaker 5>I haven't taken too big of a position, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>just so I thought the one and a half would

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<v Speaker 5>pop again, so I'm gonna try to be patient on

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<v Speaker 5>that one.

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<v Speaker 3>But it seems like it keeps getting to the three.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not going the way I wanted to, so I

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<v Speaker 5>might just have to suck it up and just take

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<v Speaker 5>the two and a half on this Eagles team.

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<v Speaker 2>All right? With three? Team parlay for underdogs.

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<v Speaker 3>My dog blocks.

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<v Speaker 6>Your dog, Your dog blocks mo dog.

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<v Speaker 1>I would do Carolina, mm hmm, gotta do Cincy Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>That was on my list plus two. Were you Cardinals?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we didn't talk about the Cardinals. No, we did briefly.

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<v Speaker 5>I know I'm not crazy about it, but like it's

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<v Speaker 5>either them or the Jacks.

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<v Speaker 3>Is a good home dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do the Cardinals, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So three team Parlay, Carolina, Arizona and Cincinnati favorite Parlay.

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<v Speaker 7>Gotta go Rams, Rams, Ravens, Ravens, Houston, Houston, Green Bay,

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<v Speaker 7>Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's tough, but it's it brings the juice down.

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<v Speaker 3>First little bit, Philly.

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at Philly.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels like we could probably avoid that anxiety a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't we?

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<v Speaker 3>What Eagles? Yeah, speak for yourself?

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<v Speaker 2>Allright, fine, let's do Philly. Let's do silly all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Sharp versus Square? You won last week?

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<v Speaker 3>You had just dominating you chat. You gotta get together, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>You had Dolphins plus nine and a half.

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<v Speaker 5>I gotta go with my guys. I guess give me

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<v Speaker 5>Panthers plus three and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, then I will take gimme Houston. This has

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<v Speaker 1>been Sharper Square, part of the Volume podcast Network. Will

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<v Speaker 1>be back for more Sharper Square on YouTube on Sunday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>As an eavesdrop on an intimate conversation between me and

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<v Speaker 1>Simon and which we will make utterly painful human decisions

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<v Speaker 1>in a total panic that we will regret the rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, let's recap for