1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: We are part of the Volume podcast network. 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: This is the show that makes the squares sharper and 4 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chadmlman, I 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: am joined as always buying, my co host, my companion 6 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Mike Caadre, my BFF, professional Better, Simon Hunter, Ella. 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: Simn Chat. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 3: Are we doing? 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: Felt extra excited to introduce you today. 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 3: Fired up Week eleven? 11 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 2: Week eleven. That doesn't fire me up. That just makes 12 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 2: me sad. 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: It makes me sad that we're at week eleven, that 14 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: we're in double digit weeks, that we're staring down the 15 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: barrel of the end of the season. 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: That just bums me out because I love football. This 17 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: is our week eleven episode. 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: We're going to narrow down the options to get to 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: our final five. We're inching our way closer. Remember subscribe 20 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: to Sharper Square on YouTube, Apple Pods, Spotify. But first, 21 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: every single week, Simon, the Wise guys listen to the show, 22 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: and every single week they've got opinions about what we are. 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: Saying, where we are leaning. 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: They like to tell us what they think about everything 25 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: we discuss. 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: So let's get right to it. It's time for sharp call. 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: I have to answer this boat, all right, rain range 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: telephone range. 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: Somebody said, maybe what you do? 30 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: Man, It's been a crazy week chat. 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 5: Honestly, a lot of calls about the different matchups and 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 5: obviously the conversation we had, and the biggest one I 33 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 5: got was our love for the Seattle. We're way off. 34 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: Got I get on the RAM. So that's deffin again. 35 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 5: We're gonna have to talk about. 36 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: By the way, I'm so glad. 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm so glad because I was having a change of 38 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: heart yesterday and I like it when everything lines up 39 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: for us. 40 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, So definitely, definitely a game we're gonna to talk 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 5: about Rams. Another game we might be missing on, or 42 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 5: just I personally might be missing on Panthers. Tons of 43 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 5: pros love the Panthers there, so maybe I can just 44 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: avoid that game another game. 45 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: Maybe I'll just avoid I really like the Bucks. 46 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 5: Tons of pros I've talked tough, really liked the Bills, 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 5: and they have some good arguments about why they like 48 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 5: that spot. But maybe we'll we'll go against them together chat. 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 5: I don't know, we'll see with that game. But a 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 5: lot of back and forth about just the pros loving 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 5: the bills there, and that's what's holding that number because 52 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 5: I thought this number before, By this show today, it's 53 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: still five and a half. So love to talk about 54 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 5: that one. Games that I think we got a lot 55 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 5: of love and agreeance on our Cleveland game. 56 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 3: I mean that game. We could have just walked into 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: it as well. I know that full well. 58 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 5: We didn't know Lamar had a bad knee, so we 59 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 5: took a number. 60 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: Took a spot. Hopefully you know Lamar is all right? 61 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: What am I then missing this game for me chat though? 62 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 5: And we have an eight and a half because this 63 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: would definitely drop four and a half five or maybe 64 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 5: even three and a half. Fee is out tons of 65 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 5: love for that one Denver as well. It's a professional love. 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 5: Uh not a shaka there. Another game, actually, I was 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 5: pretty shocked. I thought it was going to be a 68 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 5: tons and tons of Eagles love. That Lin's Eagles game 69 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 5: is pretty split. I know some pros on both sides. 70 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 5: So that number has touched three at a couple of places 71 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 5: and then immediately got hit back to two and a half. 72 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 5: So a game I thought it would be all pros 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 5: and all public really split, right, public would be all 74 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 5: over the lines. Pros would be on Eagles. It's not 75 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 5: really looking like that that way. So interesting game and 76 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: another game I'm kind of left on my low some chat. 77 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 5: I thought the pros would be all over this Raiders game. 78 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 5: It just might be me and three other guys. I 79 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 5: don't think they trust this Raiders team too much love 80 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 5: for that one. Maybe it's just the Monday game. But 81 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 5: not too many opinions either way on that one, honestly, so, 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 5: I've had a couple ask about that. Why do I 83 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: love it so much? It really is just about the 84 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 5: number and that Dallas team. But I get why people 85 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: are so weary in this matchup. 86 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. 87 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: Let's first talk about Cincinnati at Pittsburgh, which no one 88 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: has mentioned. The line's been generally holding at five and 89 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: a half bumped down five at hard Rock bet, but 90 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm seeing other places where the juice is indicating it's 91 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: going to go up to six. I'm honestly surprised and 92 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: a little bit disappointed that it hasn't been more aggressively 93 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: moving to five like we're seeing at hard Rock. Obviously, 94 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: I bet into it at five and a half. To me, 95 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: it entirely comes down to the offensive weapons for the Bengals. 96 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: And I know everyone's going to say everything they want 97 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: to about the Steelers. 98 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: Could be a bounce back spot. Aaron Rodgers played terrible. 99 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Maybe the line's deflated a little bit because of how 100 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: bad the Steelers did against the Chargers. Maybe Aaron Rodgers 101 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: and Pat Fryarmouth and Jalen Warren can get right against 102 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible, terrible Bengals defense. We know how bad 103 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals defense is. We've also seen how good the 104 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: Bengals offense can be, especially against a suspect defense, and 105 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: right now the Steelers secondary is sus. 106 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: Like it's just terrible. 107 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: How are they going to defend against an exceptional group 108 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: of receivers and Joe Flacco, who he's ageless. 109 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we were both a little weird this one, 110 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: and we just understand the line. 111 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 5: That's another game. We just thought it would make more 112 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 5: sense at three three and a half. Like we said, 113 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 5: it was just two weeks ago. This Bengals team upset 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 5: and beat the Steelers team. And Steelers are banged up 115 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 5: like they're not healthy. They have a bunch of injuries 116 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 5: in a bunch of key positions as well. 117 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: Bengals like you just had coming off of bye week. 118 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I thought it was funny Joe Burrow who's 119 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 5: rushing back, which is really impressive for him, but that's 120 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 5: not going to fix any of their issues. Like this 121 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 5: Bengals team, they literally have been scoring more points, averaging 122 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 5: more points with Flacco at the helm than than Joe. 123 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 5: It doesn't matter. He's just he's not to fix this 124 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 5: this defense. 125 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 3: It's just a trocia. 126 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 5: So I agree with you. The number makes sense. You know, 127 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 5: we'll grab it and hope for a back door. Maybe 128 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 5: Joe will have the lead and the back door will 129 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 5: come from Rogers and we still have a key number 130 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 5: above three and that won't matter for us. 131 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: But I thought it was interesting looking at Zach Taylor 132 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 3: the head coach. 133 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 5: What can we take away from him and these type 134 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 5: of situations after a bye week? Is he a good coach? 135 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 5: Does you get guys prepared? He is one and four 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 5: against the spread bag. 137 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: I don't expect anything. Taylor. 138 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Zach Taylor man just. 139 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 5: Who some people it's crazy, So he's I mean, I 140 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 5: can't blame him. The offense has been good with Flacco 141 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 5: a lot of stuff, but apparently it's just been all 142 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 5: matchup base. So the last time they played, Joe Flacca 143 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 5: made fun of the Spitfik team. He said he'd even 144 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 5: know the bank those offense. They were just running the 145 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 5: same zone scheme over and over again. So I'm looking 146 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 5: for reasons to avoid it because I just don't this 147 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 5: number feels sofficient to me. I'm gonna join you. I'm 148 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 5: gonna bet the I'm gonna bet the Bengals. But I 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 5: have not made this one of my bigger best this week. 150 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. Something just seems awful. 151 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 5: I just can't believe we're getting two extra free points 152 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 5: here on this Bengals teams. He said, Steelers defense is 153 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: just as bad, just as bad as the Spangles defense. 154 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: So really weird line. 155 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very strange line. Also, not that it 156 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: matters one where the other. Trey Hendrickson doubtful to play 157 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: this week with that injured hip, even after the bye week. 158 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: When you say that about Zach Taylor, I'm just like, 159 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't care like he's. 160 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: So he just knows altrocious he is. He comes out 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: of a bye week, He's won and four against divisional opponents. 162 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's also atrocious win they don't have a 163 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: buy Like, I'm not betting on Zach Taylor in this. 164 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: Game, even more so. 165 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 5: Straight up as a dog in the spot as an 166 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 5: underdog losing it by combined score of eighty five to 167 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 5: twenty three. 168 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, but here's the thing. Honestly, I'm just. 169 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: Trying to make it so we're protecting you. I don't 170 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: know for to make it one of our five, but 171 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: I don't. 172 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: Know that we're going to make it one of our 173 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: five either. 174 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: But Zach Taylor just never entered the equation for me 175 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: in this is similar to what that Mike Tomlin didn't 176 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: enter the equation even though you know, historically we'd want 177 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: to fade Mike Tomlin as a relatively big favorite at 178 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: home in the division that that has tended to be 179 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: where he hasn't coached as well, right and where the 180 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: team has had a little bit of a letdown and 181 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: they played down to the level of their opponent. 182 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: This is entirely It was actually good here for Tomlin. 183 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 5: Like historically, him playing a divisional opponent after a bad 184 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 5: loss on the road coming home as a favorite, he 185 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 5: actually does pretty well. 186 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: But I agree with you. I just do not like Ben. 187 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: Tomlin is a big favorite. 188 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 4: Guys that played for me. They can tell you. One 189 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: of my sayings I got a lot of sayings is 190 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: don't seek comfort. I realized if you're going to have 191 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: special outcomes, that you got to be comfortable. Being uncomfortable 192 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 4: appreciating my resume is seeking comfort. 193 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco was playing so well. 194 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's coming back early because he's worried about his job. 195 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: That's what's going on here. And I think we both know. 196 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 5: That's another Flacco stat He's nine to four in his 197 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 5: career against his president underdog against Tomlin. So he always 198 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 5: performs well against Tom and Donlin even said it so much. 199 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: There was the boogeyman. 200 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 5: He could not believe he had to face this guy 201 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 5: again and getting him traded in his own division. 202 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that includes when they played against each other in 203 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: pee wee football, because they're basically the. 204 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: Same age. 205 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: Houston at Tennessee Simon, we said we were waiting until 206 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: this number got below seven. It took him minute, but 207 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: at lanted below seven yesterday Wednesday afternoon, middle of the afternoon, 208 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: and it's pretty much six and a half painted across 209 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: the board minus one ten. No official word on CJ, 210 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: but he did not practice. The Texans do not expect 211 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: him to play this weekend, so this number was moving 212 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: based on Davis Mills. 213 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons is hopeful he will be back. 214 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: I did bet the Texans at minus six and a 215 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: half because I think they might only have to score 216 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 1: one touchdown to cover this number. The defense is so 217 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: good that offense is so bad. There's there's virtually no 218 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: evidence that this offense can get the ball in the 219 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: end zone often enough against this defense to to cover 220 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: less than a touchdown. 221 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 3: To me, yeah, I'm on it as well. 222 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 5: It's the only polems I have for this one is 223 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 5: it's tons of tons of pros are on this Titans team, 224 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 5: and of course that's. 225 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 2: Why it moved. No one's no one in the public 226 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: is betting. 227 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,599 Speaker 5: It came out eating practice on Wednesday or Tuesday, I 228 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 5: believe because it was concussion. 229 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 3: I think that's when it moved to six and a half. 230 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: It started moving Tuesday night to six and a half 231 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: because that's when I bet it, and by today it 232 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: was six and a half across the board. 233 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: So, like you know, the fact that it's it's it's 234 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 5: more likely now that teaches out adds to that, you know, 235 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 5: you're looking at the early money here and it is 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 5: on Tennessee, so it looks like the public is joining them, 237 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: which makes sense. It's Davis Mills on the road as 238 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 5: a six and a half point favorite. 239 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 3: So I get where they're coming from. 240 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 5: I think we both agree we're taking this position for 241 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 5: the fact that we trust this defense but. 242 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 3: Interesting and interesting number movement. 243 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 5: I don't want to tell people to bet it or 244 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 5: hammer now because it could drop. If it is official 245 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 5: CJ is out, maybe this does get the four four 246 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: and a half, like this number. 247 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: Does keep dropping. 248 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 2: There's no way. 249 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 5: I know I thought that too, but I just I 250 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 5: was shocked and moved off to seven once the CJ 251 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 5: concussion no practice because I was like, I was not 252 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 5: expecting him to play this week anyway. 253 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: So yeah, but if it was going to move, it 254 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: would have already been. It would have been a much 255 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: more aggressive move in the past twenty four hours from this. 256 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: Is a fair books. 257 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 5: Because it's gone under the key number now, where like 258 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 5: they're taking tons and tons of bets and I'm sure 259 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 5: moneyland parlays and teasers now in this Texans team, but 260 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 5: they're fine with that position because they're in the back 261 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 5: of round. I think they're saying, well, we think it's 262 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 5: probably gonna be Davis Mills. That's why I thought it 263 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 5: was big. They moved off the seven. So yeah, I'm 264 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 5: just I'll be patient with this one. We'll see where 265 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 5: it goes. But like you said, we're both in six 266 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 5: and a half. It's just the more I think about it, 267 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 5: it's like the me and Check be forced to watch 268 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 5: this game and bet on this game. I don't know 269 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 5: if we're gonna have to make this one of those 270 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 5: games because I just how much I love the number 271 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: with Davis Mills. 272 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: Well, we're of course going to be watching it. It'll 273 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: be in the multiview. 274 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: There's no there's no chance. 275 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 5: I'm not like, there's so many good games I. 276 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: Know, But the problem is we have money. I'm not 277 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: saying it's going to be in the contest. I'm just 278 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: saying we have money on it. At this point. I 279 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 1: know that in the early windows, I got five screens 280 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: I can watch on. I'll watch the five games that 281 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: are in the contest and that we have bets on, 282 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have it on this game. 283 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 3: Let's say if I was at home, I'd probably put 284 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: on the iPad. I won't even put on the TV. 285 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: I think this game will probably be on my laptop. 286 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds right. 287 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see. 288 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I know I can know for a fact 289 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: Baltimore Cleveland's going to be on there. I know that 290 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Pittsburgh's going to be on there. So we'll see. Simon, 291 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Green Bay Packers as 292 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: seven point favorites at the New York Giants, because on 293 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: Tuesday we talked about the Packers and you added slightly 294 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: into the Packers. I was wondering why, like we would 295 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: even try to make a decision. We didn't know who 296 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: was going to be quarterback. Now we know, famous Jameis 297 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: Winston is starting for the Giants on Sunday. Russell Wilson 298 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: has been demoted to third string, and Russell Wilson is 299 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: now doing videos on Cameo. He's made three hundred million 300 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: dollars in his career. He's doing videos on cameo. Yesterday, 301 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: at his presconf friends as the number one quarterback as 302 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: QB one, Jameis Winston gave a virtuoso performance, including a 303 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Broadway musical interlude. Matt Mitchell roll it. 304 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 3: I'm want fans to know that I'm gonna do my best. 305 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: You know, obviously I'm gonna have. 306 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 6: Fun, but I'm gonna execute, have a surgical execution, and 307 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 6: just and just play ball, man, Like this is something 308 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 6: I've been doing since I've been four years old. Now 309 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 6: I just get to do it in the greatest city 310 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 6: in the world. I'm gonna be saying with my son, 311 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 6: what's the greatest city in the world. Yeah, that's a 312 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 6: Hamilton reference to now I don't know, and a ten 313 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 6: year reunion. 314 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, come on him acknowledging Hamilton's ten ten 315 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: year anniversary. 316 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 2: He's a legend. He's a legend. 317 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: It's like, Jamis is everything you love about betting. You 318 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: and I talk about this all the time. You love 319 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: the roller coaster of betting. I love knowing that I've 320 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: got the win in the first quarter and then relaxing 321 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the day. I want to be right. 322 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: I don't want the emotion. You want the emotion. Jamis 323 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: is your type of QB. 324 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: Dude. 325 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: It's like, all the betting, how do you not put 326 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: in a small taste on Jamis. He is the full 327 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: experience on Sunday, the oh no throws, the oh yes throws, 328 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: the holy shit throws, signing Jamis a little taste. 329 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 2: Come on. 330 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, The biggest sin in life is that James is 331 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 5: not like a top five quarterback in this week. It 332 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 5: just for he has so much personality we just don't 333 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 5: get from quarterbacks, right. Most quarterbacks are just robots, which 334 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 5: they should be right, they're protecting their brand. They don't 335 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: want to say anything that gets put on the board 336 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 5: and used against. 337 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. 338 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 5: But Jamis is just so free and just not negative 339 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 5: and just good vibes, like he never says the wrong things, 340 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 5: even when he's talking crazy. It's it's great, like he 341 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 5: just you never know where he's gonna go with it. 342 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 5: So yeah, I I just thought this was a green 343 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 5: Bay spot. We've talked this year, this green Bay team. 344 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 5: They're on a historical run right there. I think the 345 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 5: first team in like twenty years to be zero to 346 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 5: five as a seven point favorite against the spread. They 347 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 5: get to cover the season as a seven point favorite. 348 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 5: So the public's on the Giants. The broser they joning them. 349 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 5: This is gonna be a huge, huge bet all the teasers, 350 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 5: all the money line, partly as this Packers team, because 351 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 5: everyone's like me, They just I can't see the Packers 352 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: the three games in a row. So maybe I'll just 353 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 5: avoid it now, because like you said, Jamis could either 354 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 5: lose this game by thirty or win this game. 355 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: Outright if he had such a wild Gay's passing the ball. 356 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, such a wild car. 357 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 5: I just I don't know if he has a weapons 358 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 5: chat Like in other places where he's done stuff, he's 359 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 5: actually had guys on the outside that can make plays. 360 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 5: He does not have that in this scenario. And he's 361 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 5: going against a really good defensive front. So I'm still 362 00:16:58,640 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: I'm still on the Packers. 363 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: But I get it. 364 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: I get you're coming from. You want to go on 365 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 5: the Giants and it's fun. I just I can't. I 366 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 5: can't do it. 367 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: I just want to bet as bet put us on Jamis, 368 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 1: Like he's won us so much money over the years, though, 369 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: and then and then. 370 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: He's lost us so much many over the years. 371 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: Last year we had a pretty good run of like 372 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: betting on Jamis at the right time and betting against 373 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: Jamis at the right time, And this just feels like 374 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: a bet on Jamis and I can't. 375 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: I'm kind of bummed that he stayed in the. 376 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: NFL, because I think he'd be so good as a broadcaster, analyst, 377 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: full time social media influencer, whatever it is. Oh goodness, Simon, 378 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm just this is going to be on the TV 379 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: just to watch Jamis implode or blow up the Packers 380 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: either way. All right, let's talk about Tampa Bay at Buffalo. 381 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: I mentioned this the other day. I think we've underestimated 382 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: how much Bucky Irving means to the Buccaneers because we've 383 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: continued to want to bet on the Buccaneers and have 384 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: bet the Buccaneers, including last week against the Patriots. So 385 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: I looked it up because it's like it just we 386 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: believed so much in Baker ball. 387 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: Have we leaned too much into that. 388 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: The Buccaneers were running the ball thirty eight percent of 389 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: the time with Bucket Irving. Now they're doing just twenty 390 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: five percent of the time, and that impacts everything, Right, 391 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: they have fewer explosive ten plus yard runs, but also 392 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: it just changes the play action dynamic for Baker. It's 393 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: much less effective, and I think that's having an impact 394 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: on the entire game. It's like when you hurt your 395 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: toe and it hits the whole kinetic chain. I think 396 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: that that is really a big issue for them. We 397 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: were wondering why the wise guys might be all over 398 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: the Bucks. I don't know all the reasons, but I 399 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: look at this and it makes a little more sense 400 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: to me right now. 401 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 5: Honestly, it sounds really simple. But this Bucks team, to me, 402 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 5: the big difference has been Baker doesn't hasn't scrambled in 403 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 5: about three weeks now, and if you look back, he 404 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 5: took a really bad shot in that win against the 405 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 5: forty nine ers, he hasn't. He didn't have one rushing 406 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 5: attemp against Detroit, that single rushing attempt against the Saints, 407 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 5: and same against New Orleans and. 408 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 3: Remember all those insane wames earlier in the year. 409 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, so maybe that's what we're missing here, is he 410 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 5: sustained an injury. He doesn't want to be taking hits 411 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: like that, scrambling outside the pocket, and it's been a 412 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: difference to their offense. You need that Baker magic for 413 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: it to work for this team. So you know there 414 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 5: are some stats too. We talked about this would be 415 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 5: a spot Raffer Josh Allen. They just got embarrassed on 416 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 5: the road as a huge favorite, and it feels like 417 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 5: it's a unique spot, right, It's not often Josh Allen 418 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: goes on the road as a favorite and loses well 419 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 5: by double digits. And when I looked at it, it's 420 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 5: it's pretty alarming. He's after loss like that. He's six 421 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 5: and three against the spread, which isn't that drastic, but 422 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 5: he's covering by eleven points per game in those matchups, 423 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 5: so he tends to bounce back. Josh Allen these matchups, 424 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 5: and you know, if they have a game where they 425 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 5: score sixteen points or less in Josh Allen's career, the 426 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 5: following game, he's thirteen and six against the spread. So 427 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 5: we've just seen time and time again he tends to 428 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 5: bounce back. I had tons of people send me trend 429 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,160 Speaker 5: numbers about Baker because they were agreeing with us about 430 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 5: our love for Baker. That's why it's like, can we 431 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 5: still get there? But I'm just alarmed that he has 432 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,879 Speaker 5: not run. That was something that really jumped out to me. 433 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 5: It's like, is there just something we don't know because 434 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: he's not looked the same since that forty nine ers game, 435 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 5: and I thought, you know what, that's just football, right, 436 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 5: you have lows, ups and downs. He's just not I 437 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 5: thought he'd maybe get right after that bye a week, 438 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 5: but you saw against New England he didn't really run 439 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 5: the ball, he didn't use his legs like he usually does. So, yeah, 440 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 5: they're just those type of things jumped out to me. Obviously. 441 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 5: If you want to hear some Baker stats as a dog, 442 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 5: he's fifteen to four or against a spread in his career. 443 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: We know Baker's just he covers as a dog. So 444 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 5: I don't know what you want to do in this one. 445 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 5: It's it's a unique spot, right, it's Baker awful loss 446 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 5: now is a dog on the road again. Another stat 447 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 5: at him is a dog in the SAX spot seventeen 448 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 5: and seven against the spread when he's off the loss 449 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 5: even better last five seasons he's twelve and three. 450 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: This is exactly pow. 451 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to bet Baker here. I know I do. 452 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: At five and a half. The numbers in my notes 453 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 2: are we worried about Baker. 454 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 5: That's what I'm trying to get us here. 455 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: You're making a good point. I did the research yesterday. 456 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: I think they're a different team, even though without Bucky Irving, 457 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: we're seeing that in the trends. It could be a 458 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: combination of the lack of play action and Baker not 459 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: running the ball because he could be injured. All of 460 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: that seems to be missing from this Buccaneers team right now. 461 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,919 Speaker 1: To me, it's it's not so much a bet on 462 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: the Bills. It's going to be a bet on the 463 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: box and how comfortable can we get on this team. 464 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 2: It just feels to me like. 465 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 3: So I can't convince you to back Josh Allen. Here 466 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 3: you the Josh Allen stats. 467 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it just seems like I know, I don't 468 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 5: trust I just don't trust his Bills team either. 469 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 3: That's my issue. It's tough. 470 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: This defense is just it's not very good. 471 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 5: I know, but if Baker's not Baker, can you really 472 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 5: take advantage of an attack him. So it's a hard 473 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 5: game for me where it's like I wanted to be 474 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 5: on the Bucks. I thought I was going to be 475 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 5: on the book Sunday though I was me on Tuesday, 476 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 5: and I just I have looked into it and I 477 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: agree it's there's something missing with this book. 478 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: See, I really do think it's that Russian ability of Baker. 479 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: It's one of those weird games. Yeah, it's one of 480 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: those weird games where we this would be a smash 481 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: smart spot for us on a team that we almost 482 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: always love to bet on a quarterback. We always love 483 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: to bet. I don't know that we know enough yet. 484 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: I think we need to keep looking into it. I 485 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: haven't bet this game at all. I've tried to be patient. 486 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to work people, honestly is what I do. 487 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 5: And I'm like, I can't get anything. I can't get 488 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 5: anything about if he's had an injury, if he's been 489 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 5: resting an injury, because they haven't put anything on the injury 490 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 5: port either, so nothing's come out. 491 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: So I don't know. 492 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 5: But I just when someone brought that up, I looked 493 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 5: at it, go, oh my god, I've not even noticed that. 494 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 5: I have not noticed because you get sacked so much. 495 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 5: In my mind, I thought he's been running and scrambling, 496 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 5: but he has and he hasn't gained a yard in 497 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 5: three games. 498 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: That's that's so weird. 499 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: And you know now that you think about it, Like, 500 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: especially against the Patriots, there were a couple of times 501 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: where the pocket just cratered that would have been a 502 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: Baker escapes and he didn't. It just he sort of 503 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 1: just collapsed in the pocket. 504 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 505 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: We got to keep talking about this one. I don't 506 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: think we can commit to it one way or the 507 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: other yet. I want to bring up. 508 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: The Chargers and the Jags. 509 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: We talked about the Jags the other day at plus 510 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: three at hard Rockets moved down to two and a half, 511 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 1: so we're seeing professionals come in on the Jags. I 512 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: really left it in only because isn't this our week 513 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: to fade the Chargers? 514 00:23:59,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: Right? 515 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: We'd want to say, oh my god, the Chargers looked 516 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: great last week, let's bet them, But then we know 517 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: we really should fade them. We talked about liking the Jags. 518 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: I just wanted to know from your opinion, are you 519 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: feeling strongly about the Jags. I am not feeling strongly 520 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: about the Jags, but I could understand if you did, 521 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: and I would be persuadable. 522 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: You know why, Simon, you know why I'm agreeable. 523 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 5: I think we both agree it's just about the number, right, 524 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 5: Like at the three, I think we both kind of 525 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 5: like taking the Jags of the dog here. But I 526 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 5: just maybe maybe it's just the Trevor Lawrence thing. I 527 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 5: just I hate having money on them and I don't 528 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 5: trust them. 529 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: So at the three I like it for two and 530 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: a half. 531 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 5: I'm just there's no way I'm going to make people 532 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 5: invest money into this game. And the Herbert side, I 533 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 5: know a couple of pros I taking a position on 534 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 5: them in this game because they like the match with 535 00:24:53,880 --> 00:25:00,199 Speaker 5: them in the sense that this Jaguars defense just I 536 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 5: mean went through an absolute ringer the week before. Historically 537 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,959 Speaker 5: these defenses fail the next week. Right, If you have 538 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 5: a defense that gives a twenty points or more, it's 539 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 5: never good to follow in the weekend. Even more so, 540 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 5: you know a team like that, how do they react 541 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 5: to it? A first year head coach, how does you 542 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 5: react to giving up twenty nine. 543 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: Points in the fourth quarter of Davis Mills the week before? Chad. 544 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 5: So, we have a lot of stuff we've been into 545 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 5: here situationally that I don't love. And when you dive 546 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 5: into all the trends and anything like that, it's historically 547 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 5: a terrible spot for Trevor Lawrence. 548 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: And what isn't what isn't a terrible spot right. 549 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 5: Because he just his whole career has been that way, 550 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm just very uneasy about it. 551 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: But I both I think we both agree. 552 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 5: It's like this is usually where we go against the Chargers, 553 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 5: but the Joe Alt things kind of making a fuzzy 554 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 5: form where it's like it's making me love the Jaguars. 555 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 5: I'm trying to talk myself out of it. There's other 556 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 5: games I should have my money and don't go too 557 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 5: heavy on it. 558 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 3: Two. 559 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 5: Like we said, hard Rock right now is mine two 560 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 5: and a half. To me, that's a Chargers line. If 561 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 5: you want to take a position and I won't fault you, 562 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 5: But I'm going to be on the Jags play three. 563 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 3: That just feels like a smarter side. 564 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 5: But I just don't know how Herbert's going to be 565 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: against a front and in a matchup that offensively. I think, 566 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 5: you know, if Trevor Lawrence can move the ball downfield, 567 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,959 Speaker 5: they should be great matchup. But he might be down 568 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 5: his number number two receiver again, Chad, it's a big deal. 569 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Right Brian Thomas Junior might not be playing. Travis Hunter 570 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: is out for the season now with a knee injury. 571 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: Who could have seen a slightly built two way player 572 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: not being able to make it through the season. That 573 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: seems crazy to me. Yeah, he's a TONI he's a tony. 574 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: There is a lot of social media sleuthing going on, 575 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: a lot of memes on Twitter of Liam Khne just 576 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: looking as disgusted as we are by Trevor Lawrence. The Internet, 577 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: for all its failings, sometimes is right. And you gotta 578 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: wonder if all the rumblings about Liam Kohne just not 579 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: being able to move on with Trevor Lawrence starts to 580 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: become a reality, is there a little bit of truth 581 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: in the memes? That's what I'm asking. 582 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 5: Again, It's just year one, so I just can't I 583 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 5: can't overact too much to it. Yeah, if Trevor Lawrence 584 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 5: doesn't grow and improve this offseason in this offense, and 585 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 5: next year he's still doing these mistakes, I could see 586 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 5: ownership taking Liam's side over Trevor lawrence side. Like they've 587 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: given Trevor enough time in years you've seen his offense. 588 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 5: It works in my opinion, like the run block and 589 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 5: all of it. I think the offensive scheme works. I 590 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 5: just don't know if the quarterback is the right piece. 591 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: I wonder if he'd rather have Mac Jones right. 592 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 3: Now, donate that got him on the cheat right. 593 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: He had him, they had him, and he left. Maybe 594 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: he'd be the better option for this offense. Hey, listen, 595 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Mac Jones. He's a quarterback in the 596 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: NFC West. The two top teams in the NFC West 597 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: are the Seattle Seahawks and the Los Angeles Rams. Simon, 598 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna have a deep conversation about this one because 599 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams are going to be our brass 600 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: balls Better the Week presented by hard Rock Bett. 601 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 5: You know what it takes brass balls there. 602 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: I know we had a long conversation on Tuesday about Seattle, 603 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: and I think we both have sort of come to 604 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 1: the conclusion that we like the Rams here. 605 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: For me, it was about some of the research I did. 606 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: On the matchups and the schemes despite seattle defensive prowess, 607 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 1: and how the Rams can take advantage of that. You 608 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: got a lot of blowback from the wise guys, and 609 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 1: this one might be I'm not going to say bullying. 610 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 2: You, but effectively debating. 611 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: You, positioning you, changing your mind, moving you off your opinion. 612 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: Tell me what you heard, why it change for you. 613 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: I will share with you some of what I've researched 614 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: and why it changed for me, But we both came 615 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: to that independently. 616 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just honestly my model like Seattle and I 617 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 5: like Seat. Just the way they've been playing, I thought 618 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 5: this would be a great matchup for them, But like 619 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 5: you said, the more you dive into it, there's some weaknesses. 620 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 5: Let's see how defense that we know the Rams will exploit, 621 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 5: and it's a unique game in a matchup, and it's 622 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 5: it's I'm happy we have some strong opinions on it 623 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: because it is probably the best game of the week 624 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: And early in the week I was like, am I 625 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: really going to bet heavy on one side or the 626 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 5: other end this game? Because it's such two really good teams. 627 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I think Evan had this amazing stat. It's 628 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 5: the first time in NFL history we've had two teams 629 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 5: matchup week ten or later that are both seventy seven 630 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: percent against the spread and straight up matched up this late. 631 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 5: So it's really unique where it's like two teams. Betters 632 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: have loved profit it off heavily this season. Got to 633 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 5: pick a spot. Now, I thought most books would be split. 634 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 5: It's honestly really heavy the money towards this Ram side, 635 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 5: and we've seen some three and a half spop up, 636 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 5: So if you do like the Rams, I would grab 637 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 5: it now. I do think it could get the three 638 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 5: and a half by game time, just because so much 639 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 5: professional money is coming to the Rams here. And it's 640 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 5: really about McVeigh. Right in his career against Seattle, he's 641 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 5: just done so well and it's we always saw these 642 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 5: divisional teams these matchups. Certain teams just know how to 643 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 5: play against certain defenses. And it doesn't matter that they 644 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 5: had a regime change for Seattle, he still owned them 645 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 5: since that change. 646 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: So just a. 647 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: McVeigh in his career twelve and five against the spread 648 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 5: against Seattle and since twenty nineteen he's eleven and two 649 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 5: against the spread. So just interesting. McVeigh has just dominated 650 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 5: this franchise for so long now. And with Stafford, I 651 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 5: was like, okay, is there a bump with the Stafford 652 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 5: because this is by far the best quarterback he's had. 653 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 5: In that run, He's five and oh straight up one 654 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 5: and one against the spread against Seattle, covering by them 655 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 5: with seven points per game. 656 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 3: So Staffords just dominated this matchup. And you know, I 657 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: agree with you. 658 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 5: I probably overrated this Seattle defense a little too much 659 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 5: because they really have not faced a juggernaut path of quarterbacks. 660 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 5: They've had an easy kind of go here. So I 661 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 5: think this will be a true test for them. And 662 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 5: we're getting a great number with the Rams team that's 663 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 5: just playing insanely well. One last amazing stat I saw 664 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 5: Evan post. 665 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: Again. 666 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: I love stupid stats like this because it's just when 667 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 5: you really look into it, it's actually pretty smart. Since 668 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, when the Rams have seven games and 669 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 5: they commit three penalties or less in those seven games, 670 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 5: the following game they were seven to zero against the 671 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 5: spread in that matchup, it's zero penalties last week. 672 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: Why is that smart though? What is that telling you? 673 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: What's the correlation there? 674 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 5: That they're just playing sound football, which is like you see, 675 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 5: all these other teams are super sloppy right now, Like 676 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 5: that we joke that Raiders game the Raiders had nine penalties. 677 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 5: You don't really win like that, especially when you only 678 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 5: score seven points. The flip side, the Rams are putting 679 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 5: up thirty five points and against a divisional opponent, Evan 680 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 5: zero penalties on the road. 681 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: That's just really impressive to me. 682 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 5: It just shows when McVeigh, you know, he gets these 683 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 5: guys playing at a high level and they're in sync 684 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 5: like this, they just keep it rolling. So I just 685 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 5: love that stack because just shows this team is just 686 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 5: polly In tuned right now with everything. 687 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 3: And you know, like we've been saying the. 688 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 5: Rams fluky fluky loss against that Eagles team, and you know, 689 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 5: they could easily be the number one seed right now NFC. 690 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: They've been playing like the best for sure. 691 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: So a couple other things to keep in mind. You 692 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: just mentioned the money coming in on on the Rams. 693 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: The public is all over Seattle like this is a 694 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: pros Joker game. It is a they are the public 695 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: dog here. That's number one. 696 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 2: Number two. 697 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned some softness in the Seahawks defense where they 698 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: are worst, and they're not bad at much, but where 699 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: they are worst is defending against tight ends. And all 700 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Los Angeles Rams have become the 701 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: highest tight end usage team in the NFL. They're going 702 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: four deep sometimes on tight ends. So we've been seeing 703 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: that and it's super exciting to watch, but it's also 704 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: devastating if you've bet against the Rams. I don't want 705 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: to be on the other side of the Rams and 706 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: thirteen personnel and Matthew Stafford against a team that has 707 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: not been playing very well against tight ends and in 708 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: a game where something small like that is what the 709 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: difference is going to be, right, It's going to be, 710 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, tied game weight. And the Rams have the 711 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: ball with ninety seconds left from their own twenty yard line, 712 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford finds Parkinson down the scene for thirty five. 713 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: Yards and gets them into field goal range. 714 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: Like that could easily happen, and that could be that 715 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: weakness could be the difference in the game. And I 716 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: don't mind fading the public in this spot. 717 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 3: Agree. 718 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 5: And DeVante Adams not practice this week, but he got 719 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 5: interview and he basically said, like I'm gonna be out 720 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 5: there and be playing. I'm not going to miss this game, 721 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 5: So don't be worried. If Divided it doesn't practice all week. 722 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 5: I think you'll I'll still play, even I believe you 723 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 5: is a bad hip, but I believe you'll still play. 724 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams Brass Balls Better than Week presented by 725 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet. Speaking of receivers who are injured and 726 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: their status being questionable or debated, The Samfisco forty nine 727 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: ers are at Arizona Arizona is a three point dog. 728 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: We liked Arizona on Tuesday. It was at two and 729 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: a half. We wanted it to get to three. It 730 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: did get to three. I don't know about you. I 731 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: bett did three. Marvin Harrison Junior is out with an appendectomy. 732 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: I don't think that matters to me. This is to me. 733 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: This is about Jacoby Brissett and Trey McBride, and we're 734 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: just talking about tight ends and a Niners defense that 735 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: cannot rush the passer right now has at the center 736 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: of its defense a new signal caller replacing Fred Wonner 737 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 1: who's played well. But it's still different when you're playing 738 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: against an all Pro tight end caliber tight end like 739 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Trey McBride. 740 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. 741 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 5: Other car knows it's another game though, just like a 742 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 5: Jags or I'm just betting this number. 743 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: I don't really feel that great about so you might 744 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: have more opinions on this one than me. I simply 745 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 3: just took this number number. Obviously. 746 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 5: Harris News sucks like that as much you want to 747 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 5: downplay it, he is their number one. He's a big, 748 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 5: big target who with Brissette seem like he's been playing 749 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 5: pretty well, so not ideal, but like you said, we're 750 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 5: just playing the number year in the matchup, and I 751 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 5: just I can't have this fur NiTi team catching more 752 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 5: than three points against anybody, let alone a divisional foe 753 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,160 Speaker 5: that can move the ball offensively. Like you said, train wrecks. 754 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 5: Start to that game against Seattle. They fought, played well 755 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 5: throughout the game, and moved the ball pretty well. So 756 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 5: it's it's it's a good number, but man, is it's 757 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 5: a gross game. 758 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: Do you want to hear my ependectomy story? 759 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 3: Not really. 760 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: The story is about how. 761 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 1: I was trying to close the NFL preview at ESPN, 762 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: the magazine and I wasn't feeling well and for two 763 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: days I stayed in the office, barely leaving because my 764 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: boss at the time it was the first NFL preview 765 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: we were ever closing, and my boss was like, she 766 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 1: was like, you don't look good, but we really need you. 767 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: You're running this issue, we need you to be here 768 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: to close it. I under my desk. I had to 769 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: be removed and taken by ambulance to the hospital for 770 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: an emergency appandectomy, which I stayed in the hospital for 771 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: ten days after. 772 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: Did you not know this? 773 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 3: Yeah? 774 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 1: Because I was closing the NFL preview for ESPN the 775 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: magazine in nineteen ninety eight. 776 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,760 Speaker 2: But here's the kicker. Here's the kicker. 777 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: After the surgery, we had like our reviews and my 778 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: boss at the time, who I ended up quitting esp 779 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,319 Speaker 1: IN the magazine because I just could not stand her. 780 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: She was one of the worst people I've ever worked, 781 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: who was still to this day horrible boss. Stole every idea, 782 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,919 Speaker 1: what would not like, give me any help with assignments, 783 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: did not try to grow me in any particular way. 784 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: In my review that year, she gave me the equivalent 785 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 1: of a check minus in Disney grading rules for attendance, 786 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: essentially at work. And I'm like, what do you mean. 787 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 1: She goes, well, you know you were gone for two 788 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: weeks in June. I'm like, that was my honeymoon. I 789 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 1: just started four weeks earlier and everyone knew I was 790 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: getting married. She's like, and then there was that time 791 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: like in September where you were gone for like two 792 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,799 Speaker 1: and a half weeks. I'm like, when I had when 793 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: an ambulance came and took me out because I had 794 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: an emergency appendectomy. The point of the story, Simon, I 795 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:13,839 Speaker 1: played through it. 796 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: Did you. It seems like the appendix one. I closed it, 797 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 3: put you down for ten days. 798 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 2: I closed the issue. The point was, I closed the issue. 799 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 3: We had. 800 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 5: I had a buddy with it, basically the same thing, 801 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 5: but unlike you, he was. It was college and he's 802 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 5: boozing drinking. He goes, I think something's wrong. Is the 803 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 5: same thing where it's like right down, like above the crotch, 804 00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 5: like below the stomach kind. 805 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: Of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 806 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 5: So basically the same thing as you where you probably 807 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 5: have like a sharp pain in that area. Yeah, And 808 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 5: he can't He basically couldn't stand up right a part. 809 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: He says, he can't stand up. 810 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,719 Speaker 5: He said, so much pain, And I go, dude, you 811 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 5: should go to a hospital if you're in that much pain. 812 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 5: He goes, but I feel fine sitting here. It's just 813 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 5: when I stand up, I can't stand up. And I 814 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 5: basically buddy put him on his shoulder and carried him 815 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 5: down the street to a look doctor took. 816 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like he was so committed to his job. 817 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: He stayed at the office for two days in agony 818 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 1: to close the NFL preview issue. 819 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: We haven't even really talked about the time. 820 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: That I wrote a cover story for ESPN the magazine, 821 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: Uh after I had broken my back in a cab accident. 822 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 2: Next time, we'll get to that one. 823 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 1: Yes, Baltimore at Cleveland, this one was change choice when 824 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: it was eight and a half. The number of hard 825 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: rock is now down to seven and a half. You 826 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: mentioned there's some lingering news or issue news about a 827 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: knee issue with Lamar Jackson, But we were all over 828 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,719 Speaker 1: this before. I'm glad here that the wise guys are 829 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 1: into it too. Give me some feedback on what they 830 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: were telling you. I have some thoughts on a very 831 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: specific point that you and I discussed about this game 832 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 1: the other day. But tell me what the wise guys 833 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 1: were telling you and how you're feeling about this forty 834 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: for forty eight hours later. 835 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 5: Well, like I said, it feels like not that we 836 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 5: locked into it, but it should. The spot we both 837 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,919 Speaker 5: loved were they. I feel like most of them knew 838 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 5: something was up with Lamar, that he was a little 839 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,760 Speaker 5: banged up from that game, and they were taking position 840 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 5: on it because ifyew of it. If you're already getting 841 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 5: a bank of Lamore and he does play, you're handicapping 842 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 5: him because he's not gonna have the same Russian ability 843 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 5: against one of the best defensive lines in all football. 844 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 5: So the early line move as a shocked. I am 845 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 5: shocked though it has stuck at seven and a half. 846 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 5: I thought this would be just like that Houston Tennessee 847 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 5: linehere the book would head a little bit right, move 848 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 5: it down to seven, maybe six and a half, just 849 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 5: in case Lamar is out in this game. So they 850 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 5: must must be pretty positive confident that Lamar does play, 851 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 5: which I don't know how you can trust the Ravens 852 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 5: right now, Like I just anything hardball says to me. 853 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 3: It's just I don't. 854 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,919 Speaker 5: Believe any of it now, Like I'll believe it come 855 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 5: Friday practice if he's with the first team, and you 856 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 5: know that's reported by reporters, not the team itself. So yeah, 857 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 5: it's I'm so glad we got the early line on Cleveland, 858 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 5: but it's it's a tough game to try to handicap 859 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 5: now because we really don't know if it's obviously if 860 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 5: it's not Lamar, I mean, we're elated. I would tell 861 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 5: people to bet now if you really think that. But 862 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 5: I do think Wamar plays. I just he's such a competitor. 863 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 5: He's missed so much time. I just unless he's really 864 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 5: really banged up and he can't move, I can't see 865 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 5: him missing this one. 866 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 3: But for us, I wanted to play like I banged 867 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 3: up Lamar. 868 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 5: I mean it's it's a great, great matchup for Miles 869 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 5: Garrett and the boys and just dive into this game more. 870 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 5: We talked a little bit about it. It's I'm not 871 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,319 Speaker 5: putting so much faith in Dylan Gabriel. I still think 872 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 5: he's got issues, but I do think this cleand team 873 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 5: better run the ball against his Ravens team. I don't 874 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,879 Speaker 5: think has fixed all of their issues. So yeah, still 875 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 5: love the numbers, still love the matchup. It's just what 876 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,239 Speaker 5: will this number end up being. Hopefully people grabbed the eight 877 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 5: and a half when he gave it out. 878 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 2: How do you feel about betting it at seven and 879 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 2: a half? 880 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 3: I still bet it, just because it's just the unknown 881 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 3: of Lamar. 882 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 5: I'm just I don't want people to go too crazy. 883 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,879 Speaker 5: Because he does come back, this will definitely get back 884 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,799 Speaker 5: to eight. I think eight and a half. Unless the 885 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,919 Speaker 5: professionals really keep this down, I can't see it happens. 886 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 5: It's just gonna be so much public money on this 887 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 5: Ravens team. They're just one of the most belove teams 888 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 5: of football right now, especially by the betting and public. 889 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 5: They've just exactly what everyone predicted it to happen with 890 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 5: them has happened Lamar even before he came back in 891 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 5: with the backup, they've won it covered. It feels like 892 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 5: three games in a row here and they've totally flipped 893 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 5: that division with a losing record, They're the big odds 894 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 5: on favorite win that division. So it's just I don't 895 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,240 Speaker 5: want people put us too much here into this number, 896 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 5: just in case he does come back. But how can 897 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,400 Speaker 5: you that throw a little on if you didn't mistay 898 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 5: and a half. They're a little here on the seven 899 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 5: and a half on this Browns team, just in case 900 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 5: it has known little more and this does move by 901 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 5: another three or four points. 902 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 1: We talked the other day about how much better the 903 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: Browns are at home than on the road, so I 904 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: did do a little research on it. 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Probably not planned because of a foot injury. He 965 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: may end up going on injured Reserve. They've been very 966 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 1: mom about it. Are you still there? 967 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 3: Still on it? 968 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 5: I'm definitely leaking a little confidence here because I thought 969 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,600 Speaker 5: this would be all pros on this Broncos team. But 970 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 5: I just don't think guys trust bow Knicks. 971 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 2: But it's either. 972 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's fair. He's just he's regressed in 973 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 5: a lot of ways. But I'm glad I saw a 974 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 5: good Champayton stat that gives me a little confidence at least. 975 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 3: Uh, this is a good. 976 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 5: Champ Payton game where basically, if his teams only convert 977 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 5: one red zone trip in two consecutive games in his career, 978 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 5: they are fourteen and two straight up in that third 979 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,040 Speaker 5: game five and one against the spread in his career. 980 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,840 Speaker 3: So take what you want from that. It's it really looks. 981 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 5: Like it's the type of thing where he just gets 982 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 5: his offenses to bounce back and situationally after you know 983 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 5: it's been a rough go. Like I'll be the first 984 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 5: of him at this that Denver's game was atrocious. They 985 00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 5: should have won that game by twenty points or more, 986 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 5: and just Bonicks gave him nothing and they didn't trust him, 987 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 5: Like they just were not letting them throw at certain 988 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 5: points because they just did not trust to putting the 989 00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 5: ball downfield. 990 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 3: So you know, this is just an interesting spot. 991 00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 5: So just like the fact in the last decade, you know, 992 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 5: Champagne seven to zero in the spot with the Broncos 993 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 5: used two and zero straight up and against the spread 994 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 5: in this exact spot where he's basically had a really 995 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 5: struggling offense and they bounced back in these games. 996 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 3: So I don't know about you. 997 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 5: It's just the Mahomes factor, because Mahomes, just I looked at, 998 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 5: historically dominates the Broncos in these games. He's been just 999 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 5: great divisionally on the road. But I just I can't 1000 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 5: get to the fact how bad the Broncos have been 1001 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,960 Speaker 5: his whole career he's been on the chief So it's like, 1002 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 5: I know, Bonnicks is no different those quarterbacks. I'm maybe 1003 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 5: I'm overrating him still too much, But it just feels 1004 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 5: like a lot of points for this this Chiefs team 1005 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 5: going against a really good defense where I. 1006 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 3: Have some questions still about this Chiefs defense. 1007 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 5: There's still some ways I think they have holes that 1008 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 5: teams have exploited, and the biggest one to be passing 1009 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 5: downfield against them. So I know, I just that's why 1010 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 5: I didn't make it sense. I just don't want to make 1011 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 5: people invest once again in this Broncos team. I have 1012 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 5: some other gross dogs I like better than this one, 1013 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,720 Speaker 5: but I'm on it. I've taken a pretty large position 1014 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 5: on it at this point, but maybe I'll temperate as 1015 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 5: we head into the weekend. I won't be put too 1016 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 5: much in because just thought of Bonix as making me sick. 1017 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like every time Bonnicks starts, he's so 1018 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,280 Speaker 1: amped up he could throw the ball through a wall. 1019 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 1: And they missed so many opportunities in those first fifteen 1020 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: scripted where Sean Payton and a lot of coaches are 1021 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: at their best and it's usually calming for most quarterbacks, 1022 00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,759 Speaker 1: and BONNICKX look like he's ready to jump out of 1023 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: the stadium. And I also worry this defense without Pat 1024 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:37,360 Speaker 1: Certain against the Chiefs, that's a different kind of test 1025 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:40,920 Speaker 1: that they haven't really had since Certain was out, and 1026 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:45,920 Speaker 1: so it's a much more difficult proposition for them. We 1027 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,759 Speaker 1: don't love betting the Homes as a favorite of more 1028 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,080 Speaker 1: than three. I get it. 1029 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: I like Peyton in this spot. I get it. 1030 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,359 Speaker 5: You should say that it is Chiefs off of Bye, 1031 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 5: which we have in the past. 1032 00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,359 Speaker 3: We just automatically bet it, right, But true, I. 1033 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: Know I'm not gonna lie to you. I'm not bought 1034 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 1: in on Denver at all here. I have not been 1035 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: even the other day when you know it's at four 1036 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 1: and you're hammering it and. 1037 00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,280 Speaker 3: Can give you some defensive stats that might help a little. 1038 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 2: Okay, that's here. 1039 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 5: It's just like it's like I'm trying to find a 1040 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,400 Speaker 5: reason there because I just it's just this number. 1041 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,360 Speaker 3: I just can't get over it. But defensive reason defense. 1042 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 5: So they have forty plus sacks and this season they're 1043 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,919 Speaker 5: holding opponents on third down to less than three percent 1044 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 5: conversion rate. They're the only defense to do that since 1045 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety other than the two thousand Bucks. 1046 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 3: Remember that team, right, So it's like covered that Super 1047 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 3: Bowl nice, Yeah, it was a sick one. I just 1048 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 3: I look at this. 1049 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 5: I'm just maybe I'm betting the defense here, like that 1050 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,399 Speaker 5: Houston game, and I got to stop thinking about bow knicks. 1051 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 5: But we're gonna need him to make plays. That's the 1052 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,960 Speaker 5: hardest part here. It's like you're gonna need them to 1053 00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 5: show up. It's just brutal, brutal reals. So yeah, I 1054 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 5: don't know if ial fortunate to be one of our 1055 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 5: fives this week. If I'm really gonna be like Chad, 1056 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 5: you gotta make guy take this one. 1057 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 3: If it was four and a half. 1058 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 5: I probably could have got you there, But like you said, 1059 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 5: the fours have comeback down. The three and a half 1060 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 5: feels like it's going to be out. So I do 1061 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 5: like the Broncos, but there's other dogs I like better. 1062 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:16,799 Speaker 1: This week Detroit at Philadelphia. You turned me around on this. 1063 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:18,479 Speaker 2: The other day. 1064 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 1: I bet the Eagles at two and a half. That 1065 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: is where the number is right now. It's not the 1066 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 1: best of the number, but it's still below three. I 1067 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 1: still liked it. 1068 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 2: I reran my model, because you know, I got a model. 1069 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,200 Speaker 1: I worked on it during the off season with my 1070 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: intern from Harvard's stats department, not even kidding. And I think, 1071 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 1: if you can give me a good team that came 1072 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: off of a tight win against a good team that 1073 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: just had a big win, I'm still going to get 1074 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 1: value on the good team off. 1075 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 2: Of the tight win. So I started to come around 1076 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 2: on the Eagles. 1077 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: You're saying from the wise guys that it seemed like 1078 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,799 Speaker 1: it was split, but you kinda had me buy into 1079 00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: the Eagles the other day when I think I was 1080 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,480 Speaker 1: starting to lean towards the Lions. 1081 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1082 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 5: I the hesitation, I feel like is a lot of 1083 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 5: the why Gus you are taking positions on the Lions because 1084 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 5: of all those crazy numbers and trends about golf in 1085 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 5: prime time at night and how good himmc. 1086 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 3: Cambell have been covered. They're like covering machines. 1087 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 5: I think they're like sure, something like twenty five minute 1088 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,240 Speaker 5: against the spread. It's just something insane in these night games. 1089 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 5: And then you factor in a stat we gave it 1090 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 5: ear in the year, right when they blow teams out, 1091 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 5: they cover at an insane rate. They're like a seventy 1092 00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 5: percent cover rate after they win by seven points or 1093 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 5: more the following game. So we know all this, we 1094 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,879 Speaker 5: know what we're walking through. This is a really good team, 1095 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,319 Speaker 5: the Lions. Like we said, it's about the number, so 1096 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 5: still like it. I mean we talked on Tuesday. Was 1097 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:43,799 Speaker 5: there was a couple one and a halfs out there. Yeah, 1098 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,400 Speaker 5: it's like as soon as the show was posted, they 1099 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,320 Speaker 5: were gone. Right, that got immediately up to two and 1100 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 5: a half of basically every book, and. 1101 00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 3: We moved hard Rock was hard Rock was the last one. 1102 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 5: Though hard Rock held at the two for a while, 1103 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 5: and they did eventually move to a three and then 1104 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 5: immediately went down to So there is a ton of 1105 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 5: resistance to the three I feel like for professionals here 1106 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 5: with the Lions, which I do get in matchup wise. 1107 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 5: Like I said, I don't know if the books are 1108 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 5: accounting for how good this defensive line now is for 1109 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 5: this Eagles team with the upgrade to the position, because 1110 00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 5: for about four weeks there we had just two or 1111 00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,959 Speaker 5: three guys. We had no rotation. So you saw last 1112 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 5: week having guys submit and out. It's just fresh lugs. 1113 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 5: Is such a huge deal with these defensive fronts. How 1114 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,080 Speaker 5: hard these guys run and work. And the biggest thing 1115 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 5: I guess would be, well, Eagles are on a short week, right, 1116 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,839 Speaker 5: they traveled, you know, from Green Bay to this game home, 1117 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 5: I guess. But to me it's the same with the Lions. 1118 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 5: They were on the road against Washington and historically, actually 1119 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 5: golf isn't great on back to back road games that 1120 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 5: are both outdoors, which again I know it's stupid stats, 1121 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 5: but all the stats for him are really dominant indoors, 1122 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 5: Like it's insane. So we got to grasp with Charles. 1123 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 5: We came people, it's he is a different and not 1124 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,840 Speaker 5: as good outdoors and matchup wise, I just keep getting 1125 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 5: back to this Eagle's offense, as much as they have struggled, 1126 00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:05,520 Speaker 5: this a trick team has so many injuries like this 1127 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 5: is the exact type of defense you'd want to face, Yes, 1128 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 5: for an Eagles team that needs to get right. So 1129 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 5: I expect after a week filled with drama. I don't 1130 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,760 Speaker 5: know if you saw all the aj Brown stuff once again, 1131 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 5: but oh yeah, basically was for the first time, honest, 1132 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 5: which felt good to hear what actually is going on 1133 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 5: rather than like these news reporters dictating how he's feeling 1134 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,440 Speaker 5: through his Instagram, which is just shows a level of 1135 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 5: sports media reporting right now. 1136 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:31,879 Speaker 3: If that's what we're going off. 1137 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 2: Don't to impugne the media. 1138 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: This isn't This isn't about how bad the media is. 1139 00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 1: Although if you watch you know social media, boy, they 1140 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: ask a lot of stupid questions and open locker rooms 1141 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 1: and press conferences. 1142 00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 3: Yeah there you go chat. 1143 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 5: So I just he basically said it's him and Jaile 1144 00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,239 Speaker 5: have no issues. Jalen's playing well, He's doing what's being 1145 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 5: asked of him. He's got no problems with the OC. 1146 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 5: He's doing what's being asked of him. So that leaves 1147 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 5: one person he's got issues with, and that's a big 1148 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 5: deal with's Sirianni. 1149 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens. 1150 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 5: Basically that it came out that him Syrianny had a 1151 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,680 Speaker 5: call and that fourth down play and hurts and AJ 1152 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,920 Speaker 5: went rogue and just said it's it's going to you 1153 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 5: no matter what. 1154 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 3: Go deep. So there's a ton of drama. 1155 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: I mean, a couple of weeks ago against the Box, 1156 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 1: was it is that we talking about? 1157 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 3: No last week? 1158 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 2: Last week? I don't remember the play. 1159 00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 5: It was fourth It was fourth down for our lives. 1160 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 5: The Eagles should have either pumped or kicked a field 1161 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 5: goal against green Bay and they went for it. You 1162 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 5: don't remember this fourth on like it was like a 1163 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,040 Speaker 5: fourth and eleven or something crazy. 1164 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,560 Speaker 2: Maybe I went to bed at this point. 1165 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 5: Well, he took a deep shot to AJ and it 1166 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 5: was incomplete and they left basically thirty seconds left for 1167 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 5: green Bay that maybe tie with a field goal at 1168 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 5: end the game. 1169 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 3: So it was just people were like, what the hell, 1170 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,000 Speaker 3: why wou's. 1171 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 5: Henny call that play? And he basically was just like, 1172 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 5: I didn't call that. They they checked out it. So 1173 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,839 Speaker 5: there is a ton of drama, and I get why 1174 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 5: people are freaking out about this Eagles team, but just 1175 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 5: look at the matchup on the field. I just love 1176 00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 5: this matchup for this Eagles team, and the public's flyin 1177 00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,399 Speaker 5: into a little bit. Like you said, the lines they're 1178 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,080 Speaker 5: getting all the money, all the tickets right now, they 1179 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 5: are heavily a public dog, and then the line is 1180 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 5: moving against him. 1181 00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 3: Like I said, it's hit three to a couple of books. 1182 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,359 Speaker 5: So if it touches three comes Sunday, I will feel 1183 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,839 Speaker 5: much better about our Eagles position because I mean some 1184 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 5: real pro money is coming again on the two and 1185 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,040 Speaker 5: a half, which most people listening, that's what they're taking 1186 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 5: on because right now all the pro money came in 1187 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 5: on the one and a half. So love the Eagles here, 1188 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 5: but obviously, like Chad said, we wish we give out 1189 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:28,840 Speaker 5: the best of the number. 1190 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 1: You know what, one team I don't worry about when 1191 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of drama, The Eagles. 1192 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 2: Philly Justice, Welcome to Philly, bitch. 1193 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: There's always drama like there has been drama. I think 1194 00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:46,000 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni attracts the drama. I think people wanna like him, 1195 00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: not like him. I don't think he cares. I think 1196 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 1: he says whatever is on his mind. I think he 1197 00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: likes to be partly trolling and enjoys it. And I 1198 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: think the Eagles have the kind of personality that the 1199 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,360 Speaker 1: Bears had in the eighties and the Cowboys had in 1200 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:05,400 Speaker 1: the nineties. Like they're just these teams where there's big personalities, 1201 00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: a huge amount of talent, and there's always going to 1202 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: be some kind of. 1203 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 2: Turmoil in that locker room. 1204 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,400 Speaker 1: And I don't think it matters, Like I just don't 1205 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: like that's It's all noise to me, And it's what's. 1206 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,400 Speaker 3: That, Sirianni? He is John Madden. 1207 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 5: So they put up the stat the only other quarterback 1208 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,920 Speaker 5: that more wins through the first five seasons in NFL 1209 00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,440 Speaker 5: history percentage wise John Madden, And I thought about that comparison. 1210 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,680 Speaker 5: It feels so right that man joined a team of 1211 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 5: crazy drama raaders team just the head cases, and no 1212 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 5: one took him serious for about five years, even though 1213 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,080 Speaker 5: he was leading the league and win percentage. So I'm 1214 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 5: one of those people I hated Tierianni. 1215 00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 3: I just hate the way he handled the media that way. 1216 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 5: He talks to the fans all of that, but all 1217 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 5: he does is win and you gotta respect it. And 1218 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 5: like you said, he seems like he thrives when there's 1219 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 5: tons of in house dramas. So you're right, maybe I'm 1220 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 5: over to too much. Strike Just there's so much affilure 1221 00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 5: right now. I can't get over how bad it is. 1222 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you're in the middle of the white noise. 1223 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,239 Speaker 1: You can't get away from it. Whereas like I'm just 1224 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 1: seeing it as funny and it's the same story every 1225 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: single week and every single year with this team, and 1226 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 1: this team. Honestly, I know they're not being nearly as effective, 1227 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: but there's something about their lack of effectiveness that to me, 1228 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm only watching Jalen Hurts, and Jalen Hurts when he's 1229 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: on the field doesn't seem bothered by the lack of 1230 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: effectiveness he has in the past. This year, it seems 1231 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:34,800 Speaker 1: like the lack of effectiveness is almost by a choice 1232 00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: where he's just making the right calls and doing the 1233 00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: right things and doing what needs to be one and 1234 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,720 Speaker 1: not trying to do things to make sort of dramatic 1235 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: plays for lack of a better term. And so I'm 1236 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 1: only watching him and he's just he's unbothered. 1237 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 3: It's fair. 1238 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,760 Speaker 5: But like last year, I had a sneaky I guess 1239 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,680 Speaker 5: I was thinking because I gave him out heading the year. 1240 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 3: Bout was just all in on that ego steament. 1241 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 5: Wins Super Bowl, where this year I just have so 1242 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,560 Speaker 5: many questions where last year I did not. Like I 1243 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 5: had one big question. It was about that defense, and 1244 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,680 Speaker 5: after the bye week they got it right the Eagles 1245 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,760 Speaker 5: after their bye week, the defense looked amazing, but the 1246 00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,200 Speaker 5: offense left left a lot to the imagination. So yeah, 1247 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,600 Speaker 5: this is like I said, this is a perfect spot 1248 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 5: for this egos offense to get right against a banged 1249 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 5: up lines defense. 1250 00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that crazy Las Vegas Raiders plus three 1251 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,040 Speaker 1: and a half Simon Sas against the Dallas Cowboys on 1252 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: Monday Night. Uh, you gotta want this, you gotta you 1253 00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 1: really gotta want it. 1254 00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 2: Explain yourself, Simon Hunter on the Las Vegas Raiders. 1255 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 5: I still love it the pushback I got for people, 1256 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 5: the pros that have talked about this when it is 1257 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,280 Speaker 5: that Cowboys did get people back to their defense that 1258 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 5: are coming off into reserved and you know, could that 1259 00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 5: be a big upgrade for them, Sure, But my argument 1260 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 5: with them is it's like trying to fix a whole 1261 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 5: on the sinking ship with a truly a band aid, 1262 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,280 Speaker 5: Like there they have so many issues. Their top corner 1263 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 5: Bland has no legs anymore. He has no speed, like 1264 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 5: something made him so special from just having a couple injuries, 1265 00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 5: he's lost it. So I just love this match with 1266 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:17,080 Speaker 5: this Raiders offense wise, I just think this is the 1267 00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 5: perfect team they match up for them. And defensively, you know, 1268 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 5: you've seen the Cowboys have struggle this year. It's whin 1269 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 5: there's facing against a good pass rush. So to me, 1270 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 5: Max Crosby, you know, I don't want to get too 1271 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 5: much credence to podcast people, but because you know, every 1272 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 5: week I'm frea might go on his. 1273 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:34,840 Speaker 3: Pockets and stafe stuff. 1274 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 5: But I saw this week he's basically playing all these 1275 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 5: clips from people in the media trashing them, saying how 1276 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 5: bad he's been and how that loss was on him, 1277 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 5: like he did nothing in that Denver game and they 1278 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,200 Speaker 5: can't stop the run, everything like that, And I just 1279 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 5: love that type of thing for him, where he's just. 1280 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 3: Going to be a mental case in this game. So 1281 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 3: it's it's shocking. 1282 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 5: To me that there's no pros on this Raiders team yet. 1283 00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 5: But like I said, maybe Sunday Morning shot, I'll have 1284 00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 5: more guys join me. But it's just because it's the 1285 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,040 Speaker 5: Monday game. I feel like it's either been for the 1286 01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,439 Speaker 5: pro side at least they're taking the Cowboys, or nothing 1287 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 5: at all at this point. 1288 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,200 Speaker 2: All Right, we got a lot to discuss. 1289 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 5: We've got a couple of games you missed that I like, Oh, 1290 01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 5: tell me what I miss Where are we at with 1291 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,920 Speaker 5: this Panthers team? 1292 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,840 Speaker 3: I told you I got a lot of calls about it. 1293 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:20,720 Speaker 2: You know what's funny? 1294 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:23,640 Speaker 3: Are we missing it here? 1295 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:25,600 Speaker 2: I wonder if we are too. 1296 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 1: I was actually just scrolling through because I was looking 1297 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: ahead to our underdog parlay, and the Panthers jumped out 1298 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 1: as a team that we would want to put. 1299 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,160 Speaker 2: In as the underdog parlay. 1300 01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: And obviously I've got trepidation because of what's happening with 1301 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:42,800 Speaker 1: Bryce Young in the past couple weeks. 1302 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 2: He just hasn't looked good. But I do. 1303 01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Think I think there's much more systemic issues with the 1304 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Falcons than with the Panthers to. 1305 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 5: Be catching three and a half. That's I feel like 1306 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 5: we both aree on that. Yeah, points for a the 1307 01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 5: Falcons team that has so many issues. 1308 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,000 Speaker 1: Speaking of social media, there was a clip the other 1309 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: day I think I saw yesterday on the X platform, 1310 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: where Michael Pennix was asked about you know who he 1311 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,960 Speaker 1: leans on for support when things aren't going well and 1312 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: who gives him advice. He talked about his fiance and 1313 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: his high school coach, the people he didn't mention in 1314 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,600 Speaker 1: his ears sort of that are helping coach him up 1315 01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Raheem Morris and Zach Robinson, his offensive coordinator and his 1316 01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: head coach. And I do think we're seeing some of 1317 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: this on the field where his performance has not been 1318 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,160 Speaker 1: where it should be. But how much of that is 1319 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,240 Speaker 1: on the coaching and how much of that is on 1320 01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: the play calling. So I do think that there's probably, 1321 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, better vibes in Carolina. 1322 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,840 Speaker 1: I just don't know. I guess at the hook, Yeah, 1323 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,880 Speaker 1: we're taking Carolina. That's really what it is. 1324 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, And we didn't even talk about, which was a 1325 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 5: mistake on my part. Atlanta is coming off an overtime 1326 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:01,920 Speaker 5: game and an international. This has never happened in the 1327 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 5: history of football. Usually it's happened five times, will all 1328 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,439 Speaker 5: those teams had bye weeks. It's the first time ever 1329 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 5: a team is playing an overtime game internationally come home 1330 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 5: to play a game so there's there's that part of it, 1331 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 5: and you know the Penix part, you know, like you 1332 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,600 Speaker 5: like we said, it's just inconsistent and that's a lot 1333 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 5: of points for end me catching in a divisional matchup 1334 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 5: where the Panthers have surprisingly owned the Falcons these last 1335 01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 5: few times they've played. So yeah, I just want to 1336 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 5: make sure I bought this one up. Just don't appel 1337 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 5: to be shocked if we do end up taking this 1338 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 5: one on Sunday. It's a game I'm been into. I 1339 01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 5: like the Panthers here, and it's definitely was a miss 1340 01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 5: on my part. I should trust of my model, which 1341 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 5: I had at two and a half. I just I 1342 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 5: couldn't get what the books you're doing. You're hanging this number. 1343 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 5: But I do think this comes down to three as 1344 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 5: more professionals coming and bet the Spanther side. 1345 01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 1: So all right, I'm into that. I'm into that because, 1346 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: to be honest, I think we were struggling to find 1347 01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: five that we love, not even like agreed on, just 1348 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,040 Speaker 1: like five games that we were really in love with. 1349 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 2: So I could see that and. 1350 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,400 Speaker 5: Then before you got just going to throw a two games, 1351 01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:04,040 Speaker 5: just I'm line moving while we're doing the show live 1352 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 5: Tampa has moved to plus six at a couple of 1353 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 5: books Jesus, So yeah, that's that's happening as we speak, 1354 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,840 Speaker 5: and the Bears are shifting to two and a half. 1355 01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 3: So yeah, we talked about a little bit. 1356 01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 5: We both I feel like we're trying not to We 1357 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,680 Speaker 5: both are liking on the Bears at plus three. 1358 01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:26,880 Speaker 3: That's just and this was three and a half. 1359 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 2: This was at three and a half by the way, 1360 01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 2: last night, So it to me it's about. 1361 01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,640 Speaker 5: We don't know because we're doing the show right now, 1362 01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:36,919 Speaker 5: but it's two and a half everywhere now. 1363 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:39,440 Speaker 2: I do not like the Bears at two and a half. 1364 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I like King. 1365 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 5: I'm bringing up for people if they want to grab 1366 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,280 Speaker 5: the Bears. I grabbed the three if you can before 1367 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:45,920 Speaker 5: it moves. 1368 01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 2: That game was at three and a half. 1369 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: All right, Well, that the Vikings at two and a 1370 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: half might be an interesting play on Sunday, Okay, I 1371 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 1: keep thinking about the Bears keep coming back against really 1372 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 1: bad teams, but like. 1373 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 3: Well, Caleb against the NFC North, right. 1374 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 2: Can I invest in JJ McCarthy. You know, that's just tricky. 1375 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:13,040 Speaker 3: It's a really tricky one in his career, right, end 1376 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 3: of the year. 1377 01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 1: All right, So let's let's take a pause here for 1378 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,360 Speaker 1: a second, because I want to recap. Cincinnati plus five 1379 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,840 Speaker 1: and a half is a game we're both going to 1380 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,720 Speaker 1: be on. Houston minus six and a half. The Bucks 1381 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 1: are now a plus six. That's scary. I'm glad we 1382 01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: really haven't bet that. We know we like the Rams 1383 01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: plus three. We know we like I mean minus three. 1384 01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: We know we like Cleveland, uh plus seven and a half, 1385 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 1: plus eight plus eight and a half. We think we 1386 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:43,280 Speaker 1: like Philly, uh minus two and a half. I don't 1387 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,439 Speaker 1: love the Raiders, but I do like the Panthers a lot. 1388 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:48,840 Speaker 3: Get it. The Raiders are tough. It's tough. 1389 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 2: Raiders are tough. 1390 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,120 Speaker 5: You gotta keep fan This Dallas team is a big favorites. 1391 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 5: It's been profitable this year, fading. 1392 01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 1: So we got some decisions to make on Sunday. Give 1393 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 1: me your biggest bets right now. It's it sounds like 1394 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,040 Speaker 1: Panthers might actually be in there. 1395 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 3: Pull up close pants and be a man. They're getting there. 1396 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 5: Like, honestly, I really took a heavy position on Cleveland, 1397 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 5: like we talked about. I really thought not that that 1398 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,120 Speaker 5: number was gonna come steaming down because of what we 1399 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 5: were talking about, but got very lucky that I bet 1400 01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,800 Speaker 5: it before the all the Lamar news. Still like at 1401 01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 5: the seven plus seven and a half as long as 1402 01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:26,600 Speaker 5: above the seven, rams keep hitting it like I got 1403 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 5: tons on two and a half of a ton of 1404 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,080 Speaker 5: minus three. If it gets a minus three and a half, 1405 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,840 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna be that invested into it. It's all 1406 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 5: about the number here, So if it stays on the three, 1407 01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,160 Speaker 5: I really think I'd be one of my bigger bets 1408 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,640 Speaker 5: comes Sunday, and I'm probably gonna get there. Probably gonna 1409 01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:45,680 Speaker 5: get there on this Eagles team. I just right now, 1410 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 5: I haven't taken too big of a position, but it's 1411 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,000 Speaker 5: just so I thought the one and a half would 1412 01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,560 Speaker 5: pop again, so I'm gonna try to be patient on 1413 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 5: that one. 1414 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 3: But it seems like it keeps getting to the three. 1415 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:55,800 Speaker 5: It's not going the way I wanted to, so I 1416 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,320 Speaker 5: might just have to suck it up and just take 1417 01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 5: the two and a half on this Eagles team. 1418 01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:03,919 Speaker 2: All right? With three? Team parlay for underdogs. 1419 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 3: My dog blocks. 1420 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,439 Speaker 6: Your dog, Your dog blocks mo dog. 1421 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I would do Carolina, mm hmm, gotta do Cincy Cincinnati. 1422 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:17,479 Speaker 2: Yep. 1423 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,440 Speaker 3: That was on my list plus two. Were you Cardinals? 1424 01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 2: Well, we didn't talk about the Cardinals. No, we did briefly. 1425 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,480 Speaker 5: I know I'm not crazy about it, but like it's 1426 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:30,480 Speaker 5: either them or the Jacks. 1427 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 3: Is a good home dogs. 1428 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,439 Speaker 2: Let's do the Cardinals, all right? 1429 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 1: So three team Parlay, Carolina, Arizona and Cincinnati favorite Parlay. 1430 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 7: Gotta go Rams, Rams, Ravens, Ravens, Houston, Houston, Green Bay, 1431 01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:59,680 Speaker 7: Green Bay. 1432 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,120 Speaker 3: I mean it's tough, but it's it brings the juice down. 1433 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:04,080 Speaker 3: First little bit, Philly. 1434 01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:06,320 Speaker 2: I was looking at Philly. 1435 01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: It feels like we could probably avoid that anxiety a 1436 01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:11,440 Speaker 1: little bit. 1437 01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:12,000 Speaker 2: Can't we? 1438 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 3: What Eagles? Yeah, speak for yourself? 1439 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 2: Allright, fine, let's do Philly. Let's do silly all right? 1440 01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 2: Sharp versus Square? You won last week? 1441 01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 3: You had just dominating you chat. You gotta get together, brother. 1442 01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,640 Speaker 2: You had Dolphins plus nine and a half. 1443 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 5: I gotta go with my guys. I guess give me 1444 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 5: Panthers plus three and a half. 1445 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: All right, then I will take gimme Houston. This has 1446 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 1: been Sharper Square, part of the Volume podcast Network. Will 1447 01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 1: be back for more Sharper Square on YouTube on Sunday morning. 1448 01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,400 Speaker 1: As an eavesdrop on an intimate conversation between me and 1449 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:56,240 Speaker 1: Simon and which we will make utterly painful human decisions 1450 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 1: in a total panic that we will regret the rest. 1451 01:07:59,200 --> 01:07:59,640 Speaker 2: Of the day. 1452 01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 1: We'll be back on Sharper Square YouTube Sunday night, seven 1453 01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 1: thirty ish to recap all of that misery. Watch We'll 1454 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: listen on YouTube at Sharper Square. Like the video, subscribe 1455 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,800 Speaker 1: to the channel. 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