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Speaker 1: What's up? This is rac Saron Jenkins and you're listening

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Speaker 1: to the Chargers Podcast Network. What's up? Guys? Chris Hary

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Speaker 1: with you on a special Senior Bowl edition of Chargers

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Speaker 1: Weekly here on the Chargers Podcast Network. We got a

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Speaker 1: great episode ahead from Mobile, Alabama. Bleach reports, Matt Miller

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Speaker 1: gonna join me. Brett Lewis of NFL Network and Chris

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Speaker 1: Trapasso of CBS Sports join me as well. But first

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Speaker 1: a couple of pro prospect interviews. Quarterback Troy Pride Junior

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Speaker 1: of Notre Dame and wide receiver Michael Pittman of USC.

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Speaker 1: All right here with the Trojan Michael Pittman Junior, Michael,

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a former teammate of

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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, showed out. It was a second

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Speaker 1: round pick Walter Peyton men of the you nominee. But

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Speaker 1: what was it like to play with Chenna? Chenna was

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Speaker 1: always like a hard like he's like a hard working player,

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Speaker 1: like whether it's working out, classroom work or like just

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Speaker 1: like treating people, right, and um, I feel like that

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Speaker 1: really shows and like it's showing now, yeah, the whole process.

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Speaker 1: It's not just on the field, right, it's off the field.

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Speaker 1: To see a guy like that be acknowledged as the

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Speaker 1: I mean like he's like a special guy and I

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Speaker 1: everything that he deserves. What's this process has been like

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Speaker 1: for you? I know it's early, but I'm sure you've

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Speaker 1: gotten a lot of advice from former Trojans who have

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Speaker 1: gone through this. They just said to trust the process

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Speaker 1: and just keep on getting better each day. They say

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Speaker 1: that the first day is always the hardest day and

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Speaker 1: then after that it gets easy. So so I'm just

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Speaker 1: are in a wide receiver class that is absolutely loaded,

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Speaker 1: and you're near the top. It that it explained your

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Speaker 1: like I'm three landless and then I don't quit. So,

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Speaker 1: so whether it happens in the beginning like another game,

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Speaker 1: gonna keep coming. There you go. The final thing, what's

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Speaker 1: the biggest piece of advice that you've gotten about Just

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Speaker 1: kind of stay in the course over the next few months,

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Speaker 1: because not only you got the Senior Bowl, you got

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Speaker 1: Pro Days, you got the Combine, and then obviously the draft. Um,

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Speaker 1: just keep your head down and grind um this. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a grind from all the way until my

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Speaker 1: rookie season is over. And I just acknowledge that and

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Speaker 1: I can't wait for it. Awesome, man, Well, best luck,

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Speaker 1: thank you all right here at the Senior Bowl with Troy.

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Speaker 1: Pride it Troy, it was exactly your goal. One of

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Speaker 1: your former teammates, Drew Tranquill, made some noise at this game.

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Speaker 1: What was it like playing with Drew in South Ben,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Drew's my guy. He's an ultimate leader, ultimate competitor.

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Speaker 1: He's guy always does it right that you can see

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Speaker 1: You know, special teams was his specialty this year and

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Speaker 1: I think he should have made the Probile voted for

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Speaker 1: you hear a lot of different things. Um, and it's

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Speaker 1: by them. What's the biggest piece of advice that you

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Speaker 1: Like I said that, it's all about being yourself. It's

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Speaker 1: Like I said, Drew did it last year. It's almost

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Speaker 1: and well hate congratulations on making it to the Senior

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Speaker 1: All Right, we're doing something a little unique. We are

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Speaker 1: you take some of those guys from Alabama Clemson out

423
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Speaker 1: of the equation, perhaps Michael Pittman is one of the

424
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Speaker 1: top receivers in the first round. Yeah, no question. And

425
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Speaker 1: you know, Denzel Mims was another guy from Baylor, is

426
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Speaker 1: terrific size and is maybe the most fluid guy that

427
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Speaker 1: I can remember seeing at that size and speed. Really

428
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Speaker 1: good route runner um. And then Van Jefferson probably the

429
00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,439
Speaker 1: best route runner out here. I mean as crispum as

430
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Speaker 1: I've seen a guy in this kind of scenario. Um so,

431
00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,280
Speaker 1: those guys are really cool to watch, um, I thought,

432
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Speaker 1: speaking of you know guys from the LA area. Darney

433
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Speaker 1: Holmes cornerback from UCLA, feisty competitors. I just talked to

434
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Speaker 1: Darnay and he yeah, I asked, so, I'm like, you're

435
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Speaker 1: one of the few non seniors at the Senior Bowl day.

436
00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,119
Speaker 1: He said, you know, there was some creativity to get

437
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Speaker 1: to this game, but he did it and he's he's

438
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Speaker 1: somebody to watch. Yeah, no question. Um So I thought

439
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,640
Speaker 1: he was really interesting. Um Pride, the cornerback from Notre Dame.

440
00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was super sticky in one on ones.

441
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Speaker 1: Um needs a little work in kind of in the

442
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Speaker 1: run game and in kind of getting off my Michael

443
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Speaker 1: Pittman was one of those guys that was kind of

444
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Speaker 1: working him a little bit in a one on one

445
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Speaker 1: wide receiver dB blocking drills. But um, those are a

446
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Speaker 1: couple of guys. I watched the wide receiver's DBS on

447
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Speaker 1: day one. I kind of focused down on the lineman

448
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. Man, it's an impressive group of d

449
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Speaker 1: linemen in this in this game with Yeah, the game

450
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Speaker 1: cock is something else. Yeah, he sure is. Man. Uh,

451
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, I can't remember as big a crowd assembling

452
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Speaker 1: for O line D line one on ones today as

453
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Speaker 1: there was out there watching, uh watching the South team

454
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Speaker 1: get out there with Ken law Man. That's I do.

455
00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,360
Speaker 1: The Beast might be one of the best players we've

456
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Speaker 1: seen it the Senior Bowl in recent memory, no question.

457
00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 1: He could be a top ten pick, no, no, no doubt.

458
00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,760
Speaker 1: And then Marlon Davidson as well. Unfortunately in practice today,

459
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Speaker 1: but he left a pretty good impression with his day

460
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Speaker 1: one practice. So we'll get you eddy on this band

461
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl. You guys have covered this for several years.

462
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Speaker 1: Explain the importance of this game for certain players and

463
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,240
Speaker 1: how you can separate yourself in the draft evaluation process

464
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,479
Speaker 1: because we know film as a priority, but these are

465
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Speaker 1: these supplemental events that can really separate you. I think

466
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Speaker 1: it's an opportunity for guys to create their own narrative.

467
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Speaker 1: I think, you know, the evaluators form their own thoughts

468
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Speaker 1: while watching the tape and may not have a chance

469
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Speaker 1: to talk to the kid about why they saw what

470
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Speaker 1: they saw or what they say. And so now is

471
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Speaker 1: an opportunity, whether for good or better or for worse,

472
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Speaker 1: you can create a narrative for yourself. You say, well,

473
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Speaker 1: you know, like coach was telling me to do this

474
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Speaker 1: a certain way and that's why it may have looked

475
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Speaker 1: like that on tape. And then you get to come

476
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Speaker 1: out here and take coaching, I think is the other thing.

477
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,040
Speaker 1: I want to see somebody improve from Tuesday to Friday

478
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Speaker 1: to Saturday, and we don't always. You know, a lot

479
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 1: of the evaluators end up leaving before the game and

480
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 1: that's because you know, you get you get a front

481
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,400
Speaker 1: review and practice every day. So um, but seeing improvement

482
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: and then creating your own narrative I think are two

483
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Speaker 1: of the biggest things. You see those small gains from

484
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Speaker 1: Tuesday to Saturday or from rep to rap. Yeah, you know,

485
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 1: which I think is really cool. Yeah, it's always fun,

486
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 1: especially when you have you have two NFL coaching staffs here.

487
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 1: It really does simulate like a game with Tuesday, Wednesday,

488
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Speaker 1: Thursday practice, question interviews at night, and then the game. Yeah.

489
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Speaker 1: And they I mean, these kids are tacks. This is

490
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: a busy schedule. They're you know, interviews to eleven o'clock

491
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: at night. They're back up at six in the morning

492
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Speaker 1: getting ready for the next day. So this do you

493
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Speaker 1: learn a lot about a kid in this kind of environment, No,

494
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: no doubt. Speaking of busy schedules, you're doing move the sticks,

495
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: you're doing stuff all over the network. We got going

496
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Speaker 1: on during this whole. So we just we just wrapped

497
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Speaker 1: up the NFLPA Collegiate Bowl, which was the nightcap of

498
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 1: our All Star doubleheader this past Saturday. We had the

499
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 1: Shrine Game and then um so I got to see

500
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Speaker 1: some good players last week out here all this week

501
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Speaker 1: at the Senior Bowl, and then um be out at

502
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: the Combine of course, and then we'll get started with

503
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 1: path of the draft here not long after free agency

504
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: wraps up, which should be a pretty wild week of

505
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: free agency, and then you know, then we're off and

506
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Speaker 1: running man six weeks to the draft. And it's nuts

507
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: because free a getting on a boat. It's a first

508
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,200
Speaker 1: dowmado to fall yes, and then that kind of puts

509
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Speaker 1: everything else in place, really kind of see a little

510
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Speaker 1: We get a firmer grasp on the needs and on

511
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Speaker 1: what other other teams might need, and you know, and

512
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 1: then before long we'll be jumping on some kind of

513
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Speaker 1: a boat in the Bellagio Mountain, trying to make it

514
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Speaker 1: for the red carpet. So let's go to Vegas, man, Absolutely,

515
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Speaker 1: Vegas baby. Let charge just pick six overall the pick

516
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Speaker 1: of the top of the draft. So a lot of

517
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Speaker 1: intrigues coming from Los Angeles. Red Lewis appreciate Tom Budd

518
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Speaker 1: my pleasure. All right, Guys here at Senior Bowl practice

519
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 1: the North, getting rolling with the Lions coaching staff, and

520
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 1: you run into a lot of great draft analysts and

521
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Speaker 1: I got one of them with me. Chris Trapasso, CBS Sports.

522
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Speaker 1: Chris was on Charges Weekly last year. We had an

523
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Speaker 1: awesome conversation. It was a little bit later in the

524
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Speaker 1: draft process, so we're getting you early now, Chris. Yeah,

525
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Speaker 1: And what ended up with that podcast is that we

526
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Speaker 1: are talking about Jerry Tillery. That's right, And I thought

527
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Speaker 1: that Actually I actually played the clip of you talking

528
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Speaker 1: about Tillery after the pick, so we did, like this

529
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Speaker 1: other draft Beagup podcast, I actually gotta I gotta find

530
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Speaker 1: that clip. Maybe I'll splice it into this one. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: that I remember doing some mock drafts and just loving

532
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Speaker 1: Tillery as a prospect and thinking I think he could

533
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Speaker 1: fall to the back part of the first round falls

534
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Speaker 1: to the Chargers there and was just a perfect selection

535
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Speaker 1: for what that team needed. Yeah, so let's actually let's

536
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Speaker 1: just start there. You know, Jerry, he didn't play as

537
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Speaker 1: much as maybe some people thought this year, but I

538
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 1: think sometimes it takes maybe a season in a full

539
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Speaker 1: off season. He didn't have that full off season because

540
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Speaker 1: of the injury. So I think this is a big

541
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Speaker 1: off season for Jerry. Yeah, definitely, And I think offensive

542
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: and defensive line, you need that one year in an

543
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Speaker 1: NFL strength and conditioning program to be NFL wrong. I

544
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Speaker 1: thought that Tillery was near the top or very close

545
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: to that coming out, but really it is very rare

546
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: to have a guy come in and can match the

547
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: strength in the trenches right away. So you're right, having

548
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: a full off season to train, bulk up a little bit,

549
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: not add weight and become slower, but just get stronger

550
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Speaker 1: in their upper and lower half. I think that'll be

551
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: huge for Jerry Tillery. Another good example that it's obviously

552
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: a different position, but I remember Mike Williams had an

553
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Speaker 1: injury his rookie season. He didn't get going to like

554
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Speaker 1: week five of the season, and by that time you're

555
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: already going you're already game planning. You can't really catch

556
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Speaker 1: up at that point. You fast forward to a sophomore

557
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: season eleven total touchdowns and then last year over a

558
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Speaker 1: thousand yards receiving. Mike's another example that maybe you need

559
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Speaker 1: a year to get going. But let's just stay on

560
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Speaker 1: this class from last year that the Chargers had a

561
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Speaker 1: couple of Senior Bowl guys as you're Adderley, we didn't

562
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Speaker 1: get to see much of them, but Chris, I tell

563
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Speaker 1: you the fourth preseason game, you saw his flashes. He

564
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Speaker 1: should have probably had three interceptions in that game. He

565
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Speaker 1: looked like the guy that you selected at sixty over. Yeah,

566
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Speaker 1: and Adderley was someone here at the Senior Bowl that

567
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Speaker 1: did a lot for himself. Coming from Delaware. Not a

568
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Speaker 1: lot of people were sure what to expect from him,

569
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Speaker 1: like playing up in competition, but he certainly looked the

570
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Speaker 1: part here in Mobile last year. I was very high

571
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Speaker 1: on him towards the end of the draft process because

572
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Speaker 1: he has that center field range that's pretty rare at

573
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Speaker 1: the safety spot. There's a lot of safeties that will

574
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Speaker 1: come up and hit you that look like linebackers. Adderley,

575
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Speaker 1: I think is the perfect compliment to Derwin James who's

576
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Speaker 1: a little bit better closer to the line, blitzing, covering

577
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Speaker 1: slot receivers. So I think Adderley another one that you

578
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Speaker 1: dealt with injuries, getting a full offseason, and then coming

579
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Speaker 1: back next year and being that free safety to make

580
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Speaker 1: plays in the middle of the field. I think we'll

581
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Speaker 1: be huge for him. And we never saw that. You know,

582
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Speaker 1: we never saw that because Derwin got hurt in training camp,

583
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Speaker 1: so you never saw those guys on the field together.

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Speaker 1: That being said another Senior Bowl guy, ray Sewn Jenkins,

585
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Speaker 1: he really stepped up at free safety this year, had

586
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Speaker 1: a really nice year, played almost every snap, So you

587
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Speaker 1: have some depth at the safety position if you can

588
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: get an as healthy. Another guy I want to ask

589
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Speaker 1: you about Drew Tranquil, who was here last year. Fourth rounder,

590
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: really made his money on special teams his rookie year,

591
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: started three games. Drew is going to be a foundational

592
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Speaker 1: piece to this defense, and you see all the intangibles

593
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: like you probably see at the Senior Bowl with a

594
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Speaker 1: lot of these guys leaders and captains with their programs. Yeah, definitely,

595
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Speaker 1: And I think Drew Tranquill is kind of the embodiment

596
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Speaker 1: of what the Chargers are wanting to do on the

597
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Speaker 1: defensive side, And truly, I think it is one of

598
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Speaker 1: the smartest philosophies in the entire NFL that they're prioritizing

599
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,239
Speaker 1: players in the back seven that can do a lot

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Speaker 1: of things and can cover. And Tranquill came here, maybe

601
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Speaker 1: not you know, one of the top linebacker prospects in

602
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Speaker 1: the class because he was a little smaller, wasn't great

603
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Speaker 1: against the run, but outstanding in coverage. And I think

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Speaker 1: he was kind of that tweener between a linebacker and

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Speaker 1: his safety, and you saw flashes at the second level

606
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Speaker 1: in coverage from him. And that's where the NFL is

607
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Speaker 1: kind of trending toward. And certainly everything from the intents,

608
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: the leadership, the character is there with Drew Tranquill. I

609
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Speaker 1: think he is going to be a foundational piece because

610
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Speaker 1: he can match up with tight ends, running backs, and

611
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Speaker 1: that's where you need to be good in your back

612
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Speaker 1: seven today. So let's look at this twenty twenty Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl Charger select six overall. I talked to Tom to

614
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Speaker 1: LESCo earlier this week. He says, you're always evaluating the

615
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: quarterback position. It's not like you do it one year

616
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Speaker 1: or not. The other some talented guys here, Justin Herbert,

617
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Speaker 1: Jordan Love. What is your take on some of the

618
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Speaker 1: guys that are here. Well, I certainly think that Justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert is the most talented quarterback prospect here. He's my

620
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Speaker 1: number three quarterback behind Joe Burrow, behind two A Tagovailoa.

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Speaker 1: There are moments, and I'll kind of start with the nagative,

622
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Speaker 1: there are moments where you kind of wonder, you know,

623
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Speaker 1: why did he throw that bad interception? How did he

624
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Speaker 1: not see that underneath linebacker? But every single game, five

625
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: or six wild throws that look like franchise quarterback caliber

626
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: type throws with anticipation deep across the field. The arm

627
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 1: talent is there. And for me, what I like about

628
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: him more so than Joe Burrow and two A Takobyloa

629
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Speaker 1: three years of starting experience, a lot of tape. Yeah,

630
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Speaker 1: that that is invaluable. That he's seen every coverage, he's

631
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Speaker 1: seen every type of blitz, every type of game plan

632
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Speaker 1: thrown at him. You cannot replace that during this pre

633
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Speaker 1: draft process. So he, to me, is certainly in play

634
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Speaker 1: for the Chargers at number six. And I think Jordan

635
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: Love is kind of that X factor. Could he plays

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Speaker 1: kind of like Patrick Mahomes, not quite as talented, not

637
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Speaker 1: a lot of people are in this world today, but

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Speaker 1: I think he could have a Patrick Mahomes type rise

639
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Speaker 1: up the draft boards through February through March at the

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Speaker 1: combine because there are glimpses of Patrick Mahomes. Needs to

641
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Speaker 1: have a better practice today and tomorrow than he did

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Speaker 1: yesterday here for the North squad. Yeah, we're seeing Jordan

643
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Speaker 1: Love just threw a bowld to Michael Pittman from USC

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Speaker 1: So it's it's fun to see these guys in this

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Speaker 1: environment because it simulates a game week, right, You have

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Speaker 1: two NFL coaching staffs, you have three practices during the week,

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Speaker 1: you have interviews at night, you're watching tape. So this

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Speaker 1: is a great opportunity to kind of see, hey, how

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Speaker 1: does this guy fit into my program? Yeah, no, definitely,

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Speaker 1: and I think you know, we are watching a practice,

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Speaker 1: so you don't want to take way too much from it.

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Speaker 1: But beyond it, this is a supplemental part of the

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Speaker 1: process exactly. Definitely. But I think for a few positions

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Speaker 1: receiver corner that certainly the Chargers could potentially address in

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Speaker 1: the draft, and then up front on the offensive and

656
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Speaker 1: defensive lines, will certainly be addressed at some point in

657
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Speaker 1: the draft by the Chargers. You can glean a lot

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Speaker 1: from it because these are one on one drills where

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Speaker 1: you're facing the best competition, and I think coaches like

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Speaker 1: to see how does this guy play when he's not,

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Speaker 1: you know, dealing with the same cornerback on his team

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Speaker 1: that he dealt with in college, or the same offensive

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Speaker 1: linement that he's going up against, so kind of that

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Speaker 1: unfamiliarity and how they play and produce in that environment.

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Speaker 1: I think coaches really like to see that. Down here, mobile, Chris,

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Speaker 1: Best players here? Who are the guys that you came

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Speaker 1: into this process wanting to watch and who stood out

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Speaker 1: to you maybe on that first day. Best players here,

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Speaker 1: I think are you got to start off with Javon Kinlaw,

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Speaker 1: the defensive lineman from South Carolina. Long, very physical, He's

671
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Speaker 1: a monster, great first step. Kind of reminds me of

672
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Speaker 1: Jerry Tillery that he's around sixty seven round, three hundred pounds,

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Speaker 1: but can win with his hands. Beyond just the power

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Speaker 1: that he has behind him, has good pass rushing moves.

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Speaker 1: The other guy that I was really interested to watch,

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Speaker 1: and this is someone that really could be of interest

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Speaker 1: to the Chargers in the first round, maybe in the

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Speaker 1: second round. Josh Jones, the big offensive tackle from Houston,

679
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Speaker 1: three years of starting experience, looks almost like Tyrant Smith

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Speaker 1: out there, does not have any bad weight to his frame,

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Speaker 1: and watching his film, I see a lot of effortless power,

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Speaker 1: and he showed that yesterday in the one on ones,

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Speaker 1: just totally demolishing most of the defensive lineman that he

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Speaker 1: was facing. And this is a big week for him

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Speaker 1: because coming from Houston, he's not facing top competition every week.

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Speaker 1: And we saw yesterday he looked the part of one

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Speaker 1: of the more underrated but still top offensive tackles in

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Speaker 1: this class. I think when you talk about offensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: you say something very important. It's a lot of starts,

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Speaker 1: a lot of reps at the college level, whereas sometimes

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Speaker 1: maybe you have a guy who looks looked at more

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Speaker 1: of a project. If you can get a guy in

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Speaker 1: with some quality starting experience against great competition, that's half

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Speaker 1: the battle in trying to get something out of these

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Speaker 1: guys maybe in year one. Yeah, and kind of like

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Speaker 1: I said earlier with quarterbacks, love to have experience when

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Speaker 1: I'm evaluating. Same with the offensive line and in general two.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the same as I was talking about

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Speaker 1: with Jerry Tillery. For a offensive lineman to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of starts and to be a senior and to

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Speaker 1: be a you know, forty fifty starts, they usually have

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Speaker 1: the strength that you want to see, and Josh Jones

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Speaker 1: checks the strength box, the length and athleticism. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's why he's going to be someone that even

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Speaker 1: after Andrew Thomas and after Tristan works the top two

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Speaker 1: consensus offensive tackles that we could see Josh Jones go

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Speaker 1: very early in the draft. What about cornerback here? I

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Speaker 1: know that the talents at corner from LSU was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be here is not here. But who from this

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Speaker 1: bunch do you like here? Yeah, Tristan full Kristen Fulton

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Speaker 1: decided to not participate. I think he kind of reminds

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Speaker 1: me a lot of Casey Hayward that he's smaller but

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Speaker 1: very sticky, great in zone too, can click and close

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Speaker 1: on the football in a second. Um Lamar Jackson from

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Speaker 1: Nebraska at that Lamar, not that Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: from Nebraska kind of a throwback, and that he's six two,

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Speaker 1: two hundred something pounds with thirty two inch armes, kind

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Speaker 1: of like a Seattle Seahawks tip of corner, but very

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Speaker 1: fast down the field, can recover. He can be a

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Speaker 1: little overly aggressive, but he's someone that I think that

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Speaker 1: if you need length on the outside, and if you

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Speaker 1: have a lot of kind of tweener nickel cornerbacks Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson in second or third round, you put him on

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Speaker 1: the outside and let him play there. And then someone

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Speaker 1: who had a really good day yesterday. He's actually practicing

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Speaker 1: right now. Troy Pride junior from Notre Dame all Troy yesterday,

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Speaker 1: all the athleticism that you want in a starting cornerback

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Speaker 1: who can is twitchy enough to actually play Nicol if

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Speaker 1: you need him to. Only problem on film has a

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Speaker 1: hard time finding the football at times, but yesterday, in

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Speaker 1: this unfamiliar environment, found the football, had a couple pass breakups.

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Speaker 1: He's someone that starting here and then in Indianapolis at

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Speaker 1: the combine where I expect him to do really well,

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Speaker 1: could shoot up the draft boards and could be a

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Speaker 1: second or third round pick. Well, what's interesting about Troy

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Speaker 1: and really Notre Dame in general, is it the Chargers

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Speaker 1: are like Notre Dame West you got Tillary, you got Tranquil,

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Speaker 1: you got Isaac Rochelle. He would step into the Chargers

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Speaker 1: to feel very comfortable. He talked about how he saw

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Speaker 1: Drew go through this process last year and how he's

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Speaker 1: been close with guys like Isaac Richelle and it was

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Speaker 1: complimentary with Tillery's So could be interesting. Yeah, No, definitely,

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Speaker 1: and he is one that just coming from that program.

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Speaker 1: I think Brian Kelly's done a great job, not only

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Speaker 1: winning a lot of games for Notre Dame over the

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Speaker 1: past five or six years, but like you're saying, preparing

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Speaker 1: these guys to move to the next level, so important

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Speaker 1: players that are doing things at Notre Dame that are

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Speaker 1: going to be asked of them at the NFL level,

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Speaker 1: whether that be rushed the passer at sixty seven and

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Speaker 1: two ninety like Jerry Tillery, or play on the outside

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Speaker 1: and then move into the slot like Troy Pride did

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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame this year. So he's someone that I think,

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Speaker 1: like you're saying, whether it being kind of Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: West out there in LA, that he could be someone

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Speaker 1: that's not going to be a household name during the

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Speaker 1: pre draft process, but looked very good here last week

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Speaker 1: or yesterday and has all the athleticism to be a

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Speaker 1: starter in the NFL. So these guys we've talked about

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Speaker 1: here and Will Biel, I know there's a lot of underclassmen.

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Speaker 1: Give me a snapshot of some of the guys you're

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Speaker 1: really high on that may not necessarily be here. Maybe

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Speaker 1: a preview of what's to come at the combine. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mostly wide receivers in terms of underclassmen. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: the headliner at this point. Obviously it's it's a top

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Speaker 1: heavy draft class at wide receiver with Jerry Judy, Ceedee Lamb,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think that's out of the question for

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Speaker 1: the Chargers to look at wide receiver later on that

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Speaker 1: that after Keenan Allen and Mike Williams to maybe add

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Speaker 1: that number three guy, maybe a speed start Henry Ruggs

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Speaker 1: from Alabama. It's probably gonna run in the four twos.

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Speaker 1: So really, a lot of the top receivers, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of good ones here in Mobile. You mentioned if

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Speaker 1: you already, Michael Pittman from USC but a lot of

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Speaker 1: the good ones are underclassmen from Alabama from those power programs.

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Speaker 1: So I think we're going to see a lot of

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Speaker 1: those wide receivers go early. And then the offensive tackle class,

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Speaker 1: beyond a few guys that I mentioned that are here

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Speaker 1: in Mobile, there's this is the best offensive tackle class

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Speaker 1: that I've scouted started in twenty thirteen doing this just

781
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Speaker 1: in terms of top end. The guys I mentioned Andrew Thomas,

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Speaker 1: trisan Worf's, Josh Jones from Houston, who's here, but Isaiah

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Speaker 1: Wilson from Georgia, McKay backed in from Louisville. It's a

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Speaker 1: really good class where I don't think the Chargers would

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Speaker 1: have to pick one at six. They could pick one

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Speaker 1: in the second round or in the third round and

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Speaker 1: get a starter. You're selecting at the top of the

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Speaker 1: second so basically the first rounder if the first rounder.

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Speaker 1: Especially with this class, you're saying, the tackles are deep

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Speaker 1: enough to where you could get a starter hear the

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Speaker 1: top of the second. Yeah, And there's been a couple

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Speaker 1: of drafts here where the offensive tackles have kind of underwhelmed,

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Speaker 1: especially the guys that have been picked early. But really,

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Speaker 1: I think with the way that the NFL is kind

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Speaker 1: of adding a lot of air raid college style elements

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Speaker 1: to their offenses, these offensive linemen are a little better

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Speaker 1: suited to come in and play right away. A few

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Speaker 1: of them are underclassmen, a few of the guys that

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Speaker 1: I just mentioned. But yeah, I think there will be

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Speaker 1: multiple eventual starters and guys who are considered franchise left

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Speaker 1: and right tackles which you need to today, that are

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Speaker 1: picked in the second and third round in this draft class.

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Speaker 1: It's very loaded at that position. Chris Tropas of CBS Sports,

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Speaker 1: where could we fine your information? What do you have

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Speaker 1: going on the next couple of months. I'm sure a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun stuff that our fans can consume. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: most of CBS Sports dot com. Um, it'll be kind

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Speaker 1: of on the front page most of the articles that

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Speaker 1: I'm writing, but NFL Draft tab can find all. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of our draft hub doing some practice recaps here

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Speaker 1: inmobile and then a lot of prospect evaluation, some position rankings.

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Speaker 1: My favorite player comparisons. I know a lot of people

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Speaker 1: kind of shy away from him. I love them. I

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Speaker 1: think it gives this type of year. Yeah, it gives.

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Speaker 1: It gives fans and you know, everyone following the draft

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Speaker 1: just an idea of the type of prospect that their

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Speaker 1: team could potentially pick, and then certainly at the Combine.

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Speaker 1: Will dive into all the numbers as we head into

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas in April for the draft. Wow, hard to believe, well,

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Speaker 1: George Smith, this was the guy who basically predicted Jerry

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Speaker 1: Tillard to the Chargers A twenty eight overall. Chris, awesome stuff, man.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it again at the combine. All right, Chris,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot. All right, guys, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for us. A big thanks to Chris Trapasso, Htt Lewis,

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Speaker 1: Matt Miller, Troy Pride Junior, and Michael Pittman Junior for

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Speaker 1: joining me, and of course thanks to you all for

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Speaker 1: listening now if you miss it. Earlier in the week,

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Speaker 1: I sat down with Gerald manager Tom Telesco from the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl that was on Tuesday, so be sure to

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Speaker 1: listen to that if you haven't already. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: to our regular time next Thursday for Chargers Weekly. Have

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Speaker 1: a great weekend and until next time, I'm Chris Harry