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Speaker 1: Hello, Renee. It's a new year, it's new you. It's

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Speaker 1: a new tennis landscape. We've been on the road. Where

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Speaker 1: have we been.

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Speaker 2: What's been happening. It's a new name.

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest. We finally gave up calling

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Speaker 3: it you know something, racket magazine. We just went with

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Speaker 3: you know, Renice stops because really, Caitlin.

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Speaker 2: Come on, I'm having a grand slams. You have six,

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Speaker 2: So let's just hauled you up.

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Speaker 1: What a great study, A special start to the Renee

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Speaker 1: Stubbs Show. I'm delighted to join you. We've been in

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Speaker 1: Palm Springs, We've been in Miami. You are still there.

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Speaker 1: You have been on TV for the past twenty four

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Speaker 1: hours talking about breaking tennis news. It is a true

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Speaker 1: privilege and honor to be launching this our fifth season

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Speaker 1: of the show with something so meaty to talk about

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Speaker 1: that actually sets up quite nicely the incredible interview that

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Speaker 1: of this season. So before we get into our incredible guest,

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Speaker 1: a Rancho Sanchez Viccario, can you please describe what the

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Speaker 1: last one or four hours I've been like in the

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Speaker 4: Well, I am in Miami.

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Speaker 3: I'm down here for the tournament, and so I've been.

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Speaker 5: Still doing practices and coaching, and then in my other

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Speaker 5: spare time and hours, I've pretty much been on every

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Speaker 5: network in Australia. I think every radio station ESPN. Of course,

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Speaker 5: the very surprising retirement second retirement. I guess of Ash

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Speaker 5: Barty and I guess the number one question that I've

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Speaker 5: been asked throughout it, Caitlin.

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Speaker 3: Is were you shocked? And my answer, of course is yes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, she just won the straight and Open two

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Speaker 3: I'm not shocked at all. You know, she didn't really

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Speaker 3: I think that really just was the nail and the coffin.

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Speaker 5: I just think it just it was so much for

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Speaker 3: It's really unbelievably mature for someone her age to say,

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Speaker 3: I'm really content with what I've done in my career.

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Speaker 1: I thought the peas in the New York Times by

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Speaker 1: We have so many more exciting people to talk about.

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Speaker 1: You know what it's interesting about ash Party is you

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Speaker 5: No one of the great, truly great competitors, someone who

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Speaker 1: Enjoyed the episode, everybody, and thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 5: All Right, Hi, everybody, welcome to the Renee Stubs Tennis podcast,

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Speaker 5: now by Racket Magazine. I am here with a long time,

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Speaker 5: a ranchid. Great to see you. First of all, long

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Speaker 4: How much did that help you?

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Speaker 6: before us were just playing because we love it, because

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Speaker 6: it's a good practice, because we want, you know that

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Speaker 6: improve us for our game. And it's a difference. And

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Speaker 6: now there's not many players, as you said, who play

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Speaker 6: singles and doubles as before. Maybe they they're more concentrated

443
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Speaker 6: for singles because if maybe they play one or two

444
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Speaker 6: matches or two tournaments because they want to play some

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Speaker 6: matches where they don't have confidence and there is no

446
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Speaker 6: doubles like partners like before, more doubles, you know, like

447
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Speaker 6: a more team together, right, so it changed. I think

448
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Speaker 6: that our generations we were like more like single players

449
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Speaker 6: but also double players.

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Speaker 2: Now they concentrated only for singles. That's why the reason

451
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Speaker 2: why they don't play it. But it's a shame.

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Speaker 6: I think that they should tell some of the young

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Speaker 6: players to go learn because I will help in the

454
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Speaker 6: game and to get the confidence to.

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Speaker 2: Be able to do it there for later to inserve

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Speaker 2: too singles.

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Speaker 6: But if you don't do and practice is very difficutly

458
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Speaker 6: you're gonna do it rather you're the.

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Speaker 2: Match you know.

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Speaker 5: Well again, I want to stress Ashley Barty Grand Slam

461
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Speaker 5: Doubles Champion before she won singles, Sancho Fakari, I mean

462
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Speaker 5: you had so much success, but I mean I think

463
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Speaker 5: about Vika as a ranker.

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Speaker 4: She won Grand slams and mixed.

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Speaker 5: The list is long for plays that won Grand slams

466
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Speaker 5: prior to winning singles Grand slam. So again, stress your

467
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Speaker 5: kids to play doubles. It only helps, as you said,

468
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Speaker 5: serve volley, transition into the net, all of that sort

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Speaker 5: of stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, legacy for you, you.

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Speaker 5: Look at someone like Paula Badosa, gabi Ya, Mugar Rutha,

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Speaker 5: these plays that came after you, and of course Conchetah.

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Speaker 5: I want to know the legacy that you felt, feel

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Speaker 5: that you left for Spanish tennis, and then a little

475
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Speaker 5: bit on your rivalry with Conchi and also the fact

476
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Speaker 5: that you were I mean you were rivals like big time,

477
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Speaker 5: but yet you came together so well in fed Cup,

478
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Speaker 5: Olympics and sort of what that man. So your legacy

479
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Speaker 5: and then also your rivalry with country.

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Speaker 2: Well, my legacy.

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Speaker 6: I came in, you know, to to sport tennis when

482
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Speaker 6: in Spain the main sport was men's soccer, right, so

483
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Speaker 6: that was the main sport in our country, and so

484
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Speaker 6: it was very difficult to open any line or any spot,

485
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Speaker 6: to be in the newspaper. A woman make you know

486
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Speaker 6: something big, right, So since I was a young age,

487
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Speaker 6: I I break that. I think I was the pioneer

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Speaker 6: of a woman's you know sport of my country. And

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Speaker 6: uh after that, we're becoming having a great you know players,

490
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Speaker 6: not only tennis players, but soccer players, back a basketball,

491
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Speaker 6: I mean all the other different you know sports. Because

492
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Speaker 6: we after the Olympics, you know, so many you know,

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Speaker 6: if you see the record, most of the medals were

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Speaker 6: women's more than men. So I think that I'm happy

495
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Speaker 6: that I opened and give them the confidence and to

496
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Speaker 6: believe that it's possible that women's can do also really

497
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Speaker 6: well you know in our country or only the men.

498
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Speaker 6: It was hard and still hard, but it's an open

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Speaker 6: window now that they can do so well.

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Speaker 2: And I'm very happy to be able to help as

501
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Speaker 2: much as I.

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Speaker 6: Can, you know, as a woman, And I left that

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Speaker 6: legacy that I hope that we continue. And as now

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Speaker 6: I'm happy that we continue having great you know tennis players.

505
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Speaker 6: And we have Carlos Warez who retired you know, and

506
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Speaker 6: we had you know, we have Garbinian and Ruth, we

507
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Speaker 6: have Paula, but also we have Salavez. We have a

508
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Speaker 6: new player that they came up. Her name is Parisas

509
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Speaker 6: you know that she's she's owned. So we have a

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Speaker 6: lot of players that come up, and we have a

511
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Speaker 6: very good team fed cup and I mean two of

512
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Speaker 6: the top ten players, you know, Garbinia and Paula, and

513
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Speaker 6: I'm happy hopefully you know, we only have it on

514
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Speaker 6: the men's side, but also on the women's and uh,

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Speaker 6: I will say that, you know, maybe I open window.

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Speaker 6: And I'm happy that we hopefully have continued that successful

517
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Speaker 6: a long time and it's great to see them playing well.

518
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Speaker 6: They're hitting the you know, very powerful girls, they're very

519
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Speaker 6: told and I'm very like, really like different styles Garbinia

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Speaker 6: and Paula, but they're doing great and I'm very happy

521
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Speaker 6: and from outside, I'm proud to have doing so well

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Speaker 6: for for our country and for them careers well.

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527
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Speaker 5: Filion and stay tuned for that episode later in this season.

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Speaker 7: I think the future of tennis probably the future of annability.

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Speaker 7: That's how do we give back, but giving back in

530
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Speaker 7: a real way. Giving back you have to believe in it,

531
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Speaker 7: otherwise your giving back is not really sustainabile. Eton you're

532
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Speaker 7: one of the time, and I think these bankers managed,

533
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Speaker 7: and there's so much more we can do to leguage tennis,

534
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Speaker 7: including to leverage this tournament, trying to really go beyond

535
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Speaker 7: the tennis itself and really focus on committing to the

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Speaker 7: community's equity, the social dimension, equal access, as well as sustainability.

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Speaker 5: Just you know, sort of like with Conchi, with the

538
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Speaker 5: having playing against each other as much as you did

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Speaker 5: and competing because you guys were like two and three

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Speaker 5: in the world for so long there for a period

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Speaker 5: of time.

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Speaker 4: I mean what exactly you know, did that.

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Speaker 5: Help in a lot of ways with you guys, and

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Speaker 5: also fed Cup and Olympics and coming together it helps us.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we know each other continnight since you know,

547
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Speaker 6: we were like ten years old. We used to play

548
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Speaker 6: the finals, you know, of the Spanish national every week,

549
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Speaker 6: you know, every single week, so we know each other

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Speaker 6: very well, and I think that we were rivals, but

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Speaker 6: after we have a great relationship. I think that we're different,

552
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Speaker 6: but at the same time we put together at the

553
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Speaker 6: best of both of us, right, and I mean her

554
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Speaker 6: styles of the games, she was a champion.

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Speaker 2: She has a different.

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Speaker 6: Style than mine. I have a different style for her.

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Speaker 6: But when we get together, we always have a very

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Speaker 6: good relation. We communicate very well with becoming a powerful team.

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Speaker 6: And as we she and a forearm me in the

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Speaker 6: back and there was no one can beat us. Right

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Speaker 6: And as you said, I mean we make a legacy

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Speaker 6: for I mean for ten years straight.

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Speaker 2: That is very difficult.

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Speaker 6: I think to be on the finals of a fed Cup,

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Speaker 6: you know now Villaging Cup, hou it's called to be

566
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Speaker 6: able to win five and lose five.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's amazing.

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Speaker 6: I mean I don't think that many teams or any

569
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Speaker 6: countries can say that.

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Speaker 2: And we make history for our country.

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Speaker 6: We did it for a long period, for a record,

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Speaker 6: We get to play, we win medals together, you know

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Speaker 6: in Olympics, and.

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Speaker 2: We make history for our country.

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Speaker 6: And it's nice to see that she's still you know

576
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Speaker 6: now coaching.

577
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Speaker 2: She's doing great. She's doing very well.

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Speaker 6: With Garvinia and now we're much more relaxed because we

579
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Speaker 6: can talk about you know, outside.

580
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Speaker 2: And don't have the stress as when we're playing.

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Speaker 6: But I think the media make much more revality more

582
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Speaker 6: than anything between us, and we have respect each other.

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Speaker 2: We were rivals, but when we'll have to be together,

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Speaker 2: we were friends.

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Speaker 6: We're still friends, and I think that that makes so

586
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Speaker 6: good a relationship and.

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Speaker 2: We will be able to be together and do so well,

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Speaker 2: you know together.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So the King Richard movie came out recently, so I.

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Speaker 2: Have to ask the same.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you want to you tell us exactly what happened,

592
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Speaker 5: because I was also at that tournament, so I know

593
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Speaker 5: it kind of what happened, but I want you to

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Speaker 5: tell us because there's nothing like There's nothing like hearing

595
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Speaker 5: it from the horse's mouth in that match that you

596
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Speaker 5: played against Venus, and just the whole hype around the

597
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Speaker 5: way I'm says.

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Speaker 6: I only I mean, if I'm honestly, that was you know,

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Speaker 6: I was not number one in the world in that

600
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Speaker 6: moment when they say I was number one. I was

601
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Speaker 6: number two because I was the first seeded I remember,

602
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Speaker 6: because Stephanie was not there. But I was number two

603
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Speaker 6: in the world, that's for sure. So first thing that

604
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Speaker 6: they should say I was number two or number one,

605
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Speaker 6: but anyway, you know, they put it that way.

606
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Speaker 2: Second, yes, it's true. We play on second round.

607
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Speaker 6: I had a bye because I was, you know, waiting

608
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Speaker 6: for for the for the winner. And I remember she

609
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Speaker 6: won and she beat stamp for in the first you know,

610
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Speaker 6: shouting staff or she was.

611
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Speaker 2: What top thirty in the world or something like that maybe,

612
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Speaker 2: and she destroyed her.

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Speaker 6: So people were very you know, big deal to play,

614
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Speaker 6: you know what, her first match professional and.

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Speaker 5: Tell me the truth like the night before, We're like,

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Speaker 5: holy shit.

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Speaker 2: I can't you're telling you.

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Speaker 6: So she'd go there and kill kill her when she

619
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Speaker 6: was a good server and good playing. Well for me,

620
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Speaker 6: I was the indoor tournaments when normally I don't like

621
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Speaker 6: to play indoors.

622
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Speaker 2: So imagine when I.

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Speaker 6: Saw her and I was like, oh my god, this

624
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Speaker 6: is you know, fourteen year old girls.

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Speaker 2: She's huge.

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Speaker 6: She's serving like you know, I mean, what one hundred

627
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Speaker 6: and eight miles or a hundred ten.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many many lumba I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 6: I was saying kilmeters probably more. I was like, oh

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Speaker 6: my god, you know I better be already. What I

632
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Speaker 6: remember was like, okay, I mean, I have to be

633
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Speaker 6: ready if I don't want, you know, will be another match,

634
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Speaker 6: but I have to be ready just in case.

635
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Speaker 2: Okay, I started the match, I was not playing very well.

636
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Speaker 6: Obviously, she she started playing, you know, making aces all

637
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Speaker 6: over the court, and I was making mistakes.

638
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Speaker 2: So I lost the first set, and then I was

639
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Speaker 2: breaking down.

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Speaker 6: And and obviously after that, I said to myself, okay,

641
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Speaker 6: but I'd better be changing my style of game because

642
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Speaker 6: if I want to win, so rather be staying waiting

643
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Speaker 6: for her, you know, to make the mistake, I started

644
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Speaker 6: to go more to the net. That's why I was

645
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Speaker 6: a good of this player. So I started to be

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Speaker 6: serving you know, maybe set from volley sometimes, so stay

647
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Speaker 6: back and.

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Speaker 2: Wait for him form the opportunity to come in.

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Speaker 6: And I kind of confused for a lot, so to

650
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Speaker 6: start making errors whatever. So I want the second set,

651
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Speaker 6: and then I want the third set. I remember, I

652
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Speaker 6: want ten straight games you know on that. And then

653
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Speaker 6: I ended winning you know, six laughing the third and

654
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Speaker 6: I was happy because.

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Speaker 2: I gave me a confidence.

656
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Speaker 6: And after I have to play other players and then

657
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Speaker 6: winning the tournaments, you know, to the final against Martina

658
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Speaker 6: and or Ratilova and then.

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Speaker 2: I want the doubles too.

660
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Speaker 6: So what happened during the match, Obviously I don't remember

661
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 6: because it's been way far. But one thing I can

662
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 6: tell you is that if I went to the bathroom,

663
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 6: that I don't know because obviously I don't remember. Obviously

664
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 6: I never was the player who leave the core because

665
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 6: when the match is going on, i'd rather continue, you know,

666
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 6: So I was, And if I will go to the bathroom,

667
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 6: I probably go to a minute because you go to battlem.

668
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: And come back.

669
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 6: But I never, never, never want to go nine minutes,

670
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 6: ten minutes, as they say.

671
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, if they want, do

672
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: you have to ask them why they did that?

673
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 6: Because bad because I have no comments to say anything

674
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 6: because I don't want to make more and more comment

675
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 6: about it.

676
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 2: The movie is out, but it's called Hollywood, I know,

677
00:28:58,840 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: I know.

678
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 6: So I was gonna say that it is a Hollywood

679
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 6: movie and it's a lot of things that you know

680
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 6: they have to to put on the movie. But honestly,

681
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't want to play. I don't want

682
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 6: to tell you about matter because what.

683
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: They've done is done.

684
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 6: And for I can tell you is that I want

685
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 6: that match and I want the tournament, and that's all

686
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 6: I remember.

687
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 2: Spoken like a true champion.

688
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 8: I love it.

689
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: Okay, a couple of little things that I talked to you,

690
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: and then what do you think about it?

691
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 5: No, I was like, first of all, you wouldn't have

692
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 5: taken a time out at three to one, so that

693
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 5: was a little weird.

694
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. So if you're going, you're going

695
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 6: to you know when it's a changeover, not a three one.

696
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 6: So that's what I'm saying.

697
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 5: So it's a lot of Hey, one thing I will

698
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 5: tell everybody is that you know, sometimes you gotta do

699
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 5: what you gotta do.

700
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, no, I mean I'll say, I mean we're human,

701
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 6: means we need to go to the bathroom and it happens.

702
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 6: But you never want to lose the momentum that you

703
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 6: have when you're winning and when you are you know

704
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 6: when you are doing you know it's not the but

705
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 6: how the.

706
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: Things now you know it's happening on the door.

707
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 6: But anyway, the momentum was there and I want ten

708
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 6: games straight.

709
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: So that's where it comes.

710
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 6: After I won the match and then I won the tournament,

711
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 6: so that's where I remember.

712
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: That's all that matters.

713
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 5: And she went on to have a Hall of Fame career,

714
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 5: so she learned from that moment. Okay, so the thing

715
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 5: that you're also very famous for is your little clip

716
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 5: ball ball clip, you know, you just put so a

717
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 5: lot of people were like, why does she do that?

718
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: And I try to explain it to them, But why

719
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: did ito?

720
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, because I was a player who

721
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 6: I didn't like to put the ball in the you know,

722
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 6: on the pens because the pantalon, because I was running

723
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 6: so much that I was falling down every time, so

724
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 6: I have.

725
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 2: To stop the point and I losing the point.

726
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 6: So I get, you know, kind of crazy and say,

727
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 6: no way, we don't have on that time bob girls

728
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 6: blow boys like we had before. So there was a

729
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 6: friend of my father who was an inventor of things,

730
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 6: so invented this.

731
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: Didn't think put this clip on.

732
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 6: The back kind of like it was kind of the

733
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 6: part of the ball, and say try it on the skirt.

734
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 2: That's okay, let's try it.

735
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 6: So I try it, I like it, and I say

736
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 6: I'm stuck with that, you know, And that's how I

737
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 6: use it. But the problem is that people are looking

738
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 6: at me like, what the hell is that? You know,

739
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 6: so I kind of use it. Then the girls started

740
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: using and everything. But when it falls down, if it

741
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 6: falls down once the point, everybody's getting crazy.

742
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: So it's a little bit risky.

743
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 6: But at the same time I get, you know, to

744
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 6: do that, and then later I kind of learn to

745
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 6: myself to us for a ball, you know, and don't

746
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 6: use it. And obviously when you're younger, there's no problem.

747
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 6: After I've been twenty one, I say, okay, it's time

748
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 6: for me to be a little more, you know, like

749
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 6: grown up. I say, I don't need that anymore. So

750
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 6: I start using lesson and then I.

751
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: Don't use it.

752
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 6: But it was nice to see the girls little using

753
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 6: because they want to be like you. They want to

754
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 6: make you know, they want to play like you. So

755
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 6: it's interesting how you make history for something as well.

756
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 6: I was not only playing tennis, but also for the

757
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 6: whole bowl.

758
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: You know, you had not only the couple the little

759
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 5: ball holder, but you had the greatest scrunchy game of

760
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 5: all time, you know, back in the eighties, you know,

761
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 5: with the hair and its scrunchy was was al firstyle in.

762
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 2: The moment, I don't know kay my hair.

763
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 6: But anyway, I will say that it was more comfortable

764
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 6: because it was you know, I have to play so

765
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 6: many matches, so I need a short cut and short hair.

766
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: But anyway, I will say some photos, I don't want

767
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: to see it now.

768
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 6: You know, it's a little bit kind of like the

769
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 6: different era. But anyway, I kind of like I was

770
00:31:59,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 6: playing tennis.

771
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 2: I was focus all winning tournaments and winning round slams.

772
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: So that was my moment.

773
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 6: You know, now I can look better and move you

774
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 6: know fashion that is, you know, time.

775
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: To change, girl.

776
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: Friend.

777
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 5: The scrunches are back, so don't worry about it. I

778
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 5: want to talk a little bit about Stephie, your rivalry,

779
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 5: because it was a rivalry. It was a great rovary.

780
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 5: I watched so many of your matches, you know, as

781
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 5: friends with Steffie, but also I knew you we played together.

782
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 5: I mean you're in my era. I mean we're the

783
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 5: same age. Well I'm a year older than you. But

784
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: welcome to the fifties, by the way, they're welcome. Good

785
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 5: good fifties, man, good fifties. Still looking good. But one game,

786
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 5: you know what, one game I'm going to talk about.

787
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 8: I don't even need Yeah, twenty nine minutes more than

788
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 8: Final pay Wait wait a second, people, twenty nine minutes

789
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 8: for one game, everybody, and if you haven't seen it,

790
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 8: pull up YouTube five all I believe in the third,

791
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 8: five all in.

792
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 4: The third, twenty nine minutes.

793
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: And one of the things I want to tell before

794
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 5: you tell me what was going on, take a look

795
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 5: at how many times either of them went to the

796
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 5: town during a twenty nine minute game. Probably twice, and

797
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 5: I think Stephie literally bolted over to hotel, and you

798
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 5: maybe one time as well, just to like. So that's

799
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 5: another thing that I'm gonna say. It's gonna piss me

800
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 5: off with. These players go into a towel every point

801
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 5: and you sweat. You sweat a lot, and so did Stephie.

802
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 5: So don't tell me you can have to go to

803
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 5: a towel when it's five all on the third at Wimbledon. Okay,

804
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 5: twenty nine minute game and they went to the tower

805
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 5: friggin once. Okay, So anyway, that's my thing on that.

806
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 5: But tell me about that game.

807
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 6: No, I mean it was amazing because obviously I mean

808
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 6: the time when we were playing more than the grass

809
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 6: was so low and so fast, So it will fit

810
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 6: the players who are you know, good servers like Stephanie,

811
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 6: you know, obviously, so.

812
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: To be able to to to.

813
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 6: Play that final the way I play, because I played

814
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 6: probably one of the best matches I ever played on grass.

815
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: How many times I wanted net? How many times you

816
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 2: know I was able to.

817
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 6: Put her in difficult wilty and see her face saying,

818
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 6: oh my god, I mean I have to really just

819
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 6: say sweat normally, you know, And like we I think

820
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 6: there was as you see if you watch it, probably

821
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 6: you know because it was like either you go for

822
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 6: it or you lose the point, right, So maybe you

823
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 6: know that there was a couple of points that you know,

824
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 6: the ball just when you know a little bit outside

825
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 6: you know that when you need it. But sometimes I

826
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 6: think I lost that match from one point, and I

827
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 6: remember fully, so I knew that every time they asked me,

828
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 6: what do you which which tournament or you think you

829
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 6: will to you remember the most? And I say, obviously,

830
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 6: you know I was so close only one point, and

831
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 6: you want to have it on your on your on

832
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 6: your you know side. But at the same time, I remember,

833
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 6: I give my best, I fight until the end.

834
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: I lose against the best player ever.

835
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 6: But the difference is only one point. But as you say,

836
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 6: I never I swear a lot. I have to, you know,

837
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 6: I never like to go too much to the towbel

838
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 6: because you was taking my momentum. But now things change.

839
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 6: They go every single moment, and for us, I was

840
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 6: just just my off point to concentrate, to play every point.

841
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 6: And maybe Stephie was you know that the biggest moment.

842
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 6: She has better surf and that's what makes her make

843
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 6: beatting more. You know, matches against me at the last minute,

844
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 6: but it was a pleasure and to play against her

845
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 6: because you always want to play against the best one.

846
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 6: She was at the moment the best for me, and

847
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 6: when I beat her it was a big win. When

848
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 6: I lose, I gave my best and she knows that

849
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 6: she has to be I just say your best, so

850
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 6: I always she takes the best out of me, I

851
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 6: take the best of her, and she was.

852
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: My biggest rival.

853
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 6: Then later when Monica came in, it was the same thing, right,

854
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 6: But on my moment, I should say that if it

855
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 6: was a player I'm dreaming with Stephie, you know, to

856
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 6: play final and to beating her run slams, to beating

857
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 6: her in the big tournaments.

858
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 2: And I mean I have.

859
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 6: Four Grand Slams, you know, winner, but I lost to

860
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 6: Stephanie ten other finals in Islam, So imagine, how can

861
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 6: people you know, how many you know, maybe I couldn't want,

862
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 6: you know, but you know, circumstances, the people remember unfortunately

863
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 6: only when you win, but who's in the final.

864
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: You know you have to be there too, So there's

865
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 2: a lot of things going on, but you.

866
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 6: Have to be there to play those opportunities to be

867
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,399
Speaker 6: That's what.

868
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 2: You're looking for when you're in the game.

869
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 6: And I could never imagine having the success that I

870
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 6: have as a career that I have.

871
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: So I'm very happy. And obviously you would like to

872
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 2: have on.

873
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 6: My side, you know, to say okay, we moving, But

874
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 6: I can say, okay, one four and I lost another finals.

875
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 6: I have, you know, four ground and mixed doubles, six

876
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 6: doubles or fourteen, and but the best career ever to

877
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 6: be number one, to be in singles and double the

878
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 6: same year.

879
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: You say, it's very difficult. So I'm very proud and I.

880
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 6: Make history for my country, for you know, for myself,

881
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 6: and my name is there for a long time. My

882
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 6: kid's now looking at her mom and they're laughing because my.

883
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: Mom is number one, you know, So it is it

884
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 2: is nice.

885
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 6: To to still vote in the game what you've done

886
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 6: and the passion that I have. And people remember, you know,

887
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 6: my fights and my games and my matches. So it's

888
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: nice to see the when you see you TV or

889
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 6: when they're talking about it.

890
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: So but and that goes on.

891
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 5: And the world's greatest defensive lobber in the world, Oh

892
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 5: my god, you could hit a lob on the run

893
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 5: and it would land literally a foot from the baseline

894
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 5: every single time.

895
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 4: Every single time.

896
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 5: Just last question, a little bit on Rafa what he's

897
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 5: done in his career, and clearly he came just after you,

898
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 5: And I mean, do you get a chance to chat

899
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 5: with him and talk to him and what what is

900
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 5: the most amazing thing about him? I mean, other than

901
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 5: everything I.

902
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: Think that I mean, first of all, he's a great champion.

903
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:12,720
Speaker 2: He's a great person, and.

904
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 6: I think that you know, I would likely to have

905
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 6: that family. He has a great family too. That also

906
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 6: helps him, you know, because he has a great people

907
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 6: around around him. But I was happy, as you said,

908
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 6: you know, to be the first woman, female male to

909
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 6: be number one, and then to open the now. I

910
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 6: mean he's the he's the hero, you know what he's doing.

911
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 6: And I think he has the passion, he has what

912
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 6: he loves the game.

913
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: That's why he's there.

914
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 6: He's now learning more about the schedule because his injuries,

915
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 6: his body, he's learning more about her body. But I

916
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 6: think he's great for the game and he's showing and

917
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 6: he's still making history. So as a Spanish I'm very

918
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 6: proud in my era.

919
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 2: He's doing his era.

920
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 6: So Spanish tennis is on the top and we just

921
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 6: leave legacy for the next, you know, generation.

922
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: But I think it's.

923
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 6: Amazing and I should say, as you say, I'm saying

924
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 6: what he's doing, you know, and definitely I mean what

925
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 6: you can say, have a raffa that he's a true champion.

926
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,959
Speaker 2: So and happy to see that. You know as well well,

927
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: my friend.

928
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 5: As I said, we played against each other many times

929
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 5: in doubles. Thankfully never had to play you in singles

930
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 5: because that would have been absolute torture for me.

931
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 4: That would have been just torture for me.

932
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 2: But you know, you've just you're such.

933
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 5: A great champion, you're such a great ambassador for everybody

934
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 5: for hard work and for being out there and just

935
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 5: literally you are the female version of Ruffa. Every point

936
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 5: mattered to you, every practice matter to you, every match

937
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 5: matter to you, singles, doubles, mix, whatever it was, your

938
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 5: country mattered to you, Fed Cup, Olympics, all of it.

939
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: You did it all.

940
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 4: So thanks, thanks my friend.

941
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 2: It's nice to see that because.

942
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 6: People are saying that that Rancha, nada nada, Rancha are

943
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 6: the one, the famous, I mean the female one, the

944
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 6: male in Spain disable because we.

945
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: Don't give up and everything.

946
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 6: But it's nice to hear the compliments and it's nice

947
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 6: to see you, by the way, and obviously you know

948
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 6: to be able to stay in board with our sport,

949
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: our passion.

950
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: But nice talking to you again.

951
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 6: So I really enjoyed Graciatica.

952
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: Thanks mite H