WEBVTT - Unpregnant 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:03.920 On the bel Cast, the questions asked if movies have 0:00:04.080 --> 0:00:07.960 women in um? Are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands? 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:13.080 Do they have individualism? The patriarchy? Zef in best start 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:17.520 changing it with the Bedel Cast. Hello and welcome to 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:20.560 the Bechtel Cast. My name is Caitlin Dronte, my name 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.480 is Jamie Loftus, and the world is on fire yet again. 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:33.159 So we are recording and an emergency oops, no rights 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:38.000 episode of the bachel Cast. Oh we laugh, so we 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.479 don't cry. We laugh so we don't cry, but we 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.080 still cry. But we still also cry, you know, because 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:48.519 we're laughing so hard. Yeah. Sorry, Uh, difficult week. You know, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.519 we're doing our best. Uh. I hope everyone is doing well. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:57.280 We have been wanting to do this episode for a while, 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:02.000 but um, we'recovering the movie argument. You know, you clicked on, 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.920 you clicked the episode, you pressed play. That's on you. 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.119 But we we've been wanting to do this episode since 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:11.600 this movie came out, but we kind of fast tracked 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:15.080 it for this week for obvious reasons. If you're listening 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:18.240 to this at a later time, we are recording this 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:24.640 the week that UM the Supreme Court intention to potentially, 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:32.160 uh remove the right to abortion has been leaked just 0:01:32.240 --> 0:01:34.920 to be totally clear about what exactly is going on. 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:36.800 It's very common knowledge, but we want to just be 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.560 sure the Supreme Court is poised to make this decision 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:45.360 about abortion on whether it's protected by the Constitution or not. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:50.000 This was a draft of a February Supreme Court opinion. 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.120 It was leaked, and it's sort of would lead you 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.640 to believe that the Court is going to be overturning 0:01:56.000 --> 0:02:01.480 Roe v. Wade Um, which made abortion legal nationwide back 0:02:01.560 --> 0:02:05.760 in the seventies. Basically, they're trying to make abortion unconstitutional 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:10.080 and rolled back fifty years of progress. There have been 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.720 protests this week. There's been a huge call to action 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:17.760 to donate to local abortion funds UM, which we will 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.359 you know, right right at the top, we're going to 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:25.239 be linking to resources UM in the description of this episode. 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:28.080 We are also pledging a portion of our Patreon income 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:33.400 this month. UM. Also, something that I learned this week 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:39.080 is that Planned Parenthood, while a wonderful organization, is not 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:43.079 the fastest way to get money to local abortion clinics, 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.440 and it is more efficient to donate directly. So that 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:51.800 so we'll be linking to that um, especially in states 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:57.480 where abortion is more difficult to access. Uh, God fucking damnit. 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:01.760 We'll talk about it. But but this is this is 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:06.960 the Unpregnant episode, and this is the Bechtel Cast. But 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:11.079 what the heck is the Bectel Cast? Caitlin, I simply 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:15.519 I forget. It's our podcasts, in which we examine movies 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.400 through an intersectional feminist lens, using the Bechtel Tests simply 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.080 as a jumping off point. The Bechtel Test, of course, 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.560 being a media metric created by queer cartoonist Alison Bechtel, 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.840 sometimes called the Bechtel Wallace Test. There are many versions 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.320 of the test, but the one that we currently use 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:36.000 is as follows. There must be two characters of a 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.440 marginalized gender with names who speak to each other, and 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.120 their conversation has to be about something other than a 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:48.160 man for two or more lines of dialogue, and ideally 0:03:48.240 --> 0:03:51.920 that exchange of dialogue is narratively impactful. Not going to 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:57.560 be a problem today because we are covering the movie Unpregnant. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:02.400 It is a recent movie. It came in on HBO. 0:04:02.480 --> 0:04:05.920 Max Um, So, Caitlin, do you have what was your 0:04:05.960 --> 0:04:08.400 history with this movie? I did see it right when 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:11.000 it came out, because there was quite a bit of 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.720 buzz about it. It was released in I think September, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:19.760 and a lot of listeners were like, hey, the Bechtel 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.960 Cast should cover this, and we're like, okay, we'll put 0:04:24.000 --> 0:04:27.560 it on the list our list of eight million things 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.600 to cover. But so I did. I did see it. Um, 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.680 I'll be honest, I didn't like it that much. I 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:39.360 think that it's doing some really good things and other things, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:45.599 the execution is weird. So from a storytelling standpoint, from 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:49.680 a like Bechtel Cast standpoint, you know, there's there's something 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:52.560 in your in your pro life, and of course I 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:57.599 am anti choice, so that I'm sure made it a 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:01.120 difficult watch for you, certainly certainly. Um No, Like I 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:05.039 think it's it's a really good premise with execution that 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:08.559 misses the mark in some regards. But I think maybe 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.160 the reason that we kind of didn't cover it right 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:16.159 away is that it wasn't necessarily the most our favorite 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:20.080 our favorite, um. But it is a good conduit by 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:25.000 which we can discuss current events, so that's why we 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:30.599 are covering it. Now. What is your relationship with it, Jamie? Uh? 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.479 Literally identical so it when I came out due to 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.960 the buzz due to the listener interest. Also that was 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.880 like a little all over the place it did, I 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.360 mean maybe fall in love with both of the lead 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:47.160 actors at this movie. Haley Richardson and Barbie fare are 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.120 so fun in this movie. I feel like they are 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:54.640 able to sell a lot of stuff that is not 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:56.960 Like just I don't know. The pacing of this movie. 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:00.440 We we both think is weird, but it's not really 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.320 why we're here to talk about it, even though we'll 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.599 probably keep pointing it out because we're bitches. Ah. But yeah, no, 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:08.400 I was excited to see this movie come up. I'm 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.640 very glad it exists because I mean, just in general, 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:16.359 there is a lot lacking when it comes to the 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:21.960 representation of abortion in media in general, which we've discussed 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:25.400 here and there on the show. Yeah extensively. We've we 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:28.800 covered an Obvious Child on The Matrian a couple of 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:31.320 years ago. At this point, I don't really fully remember 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:34.039 our discussion around it, but I do remember that movie 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.479 is not my favorite. Like, I don't know, but there 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.279 but there's so few options because abortion movies are so 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:46.240 often spun as tragedy porn, and like, I really appreciate that, 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.640 and you appreciate it when it came out two years ago, 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:53.960 that this movie it's an abortion romp while still hitting 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.400 all the appropriate you know points. I feel like it 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:01.960 treats the subject matter very respectfully. Right, it's a teen 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:08.120 road trip abortion romp. Look, I would be down for 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.640 another abortion romp. Same. Yeah, it's this movie is all 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:16.000 over the place, but yeah, as far as what it's 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:20.200 trying to do, I think it accomplishes the goal. The 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:24.200 performances are fun, uh, and then we got a lot 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:27.000 of other stuff to talk about. But that's why we 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:32.400 recovering this movie. It's I mean truly, I think for 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:36.600 our listeners, nothing that you're not familiar with already in 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.120 terms of like why this is so horrible and why 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.880 people with uterus as having less rights than two generations 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:50.920 prior than them is just absolutely fucked beyond belief. But 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:55.480 I mean, the one thing that this movie doesn't hit 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:59.600 on that, I mean, it's not anyone movies responsibility to 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:02.360 hit on everything, but I do think it's an important 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:06.720 point to make in this conversation of um because this 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:10.040 is a movie about a teenage girl an underage girl, 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.560 which is relevant to the law. Uh here is you know, 0:08:15.000 --> 0:08:19.640 struggling to get access to an abortion without parental consent 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:24.680 with extremely religious parents who probably would not want to 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.920 do that. But I think it's important to remember and 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:32.120 point out that, um, the people who primarily suffer when 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:37.360 abortion is outlawed are low income people. Yeah, I guess 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.680 it becomes very much an issue that's divided among class 0:08:41.720 --> 0:08:45.600 and race lines. And the further marginalized you are by 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:49.360 American society, the less likely it is you will have 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:53.960 access to uh safe abortion. So it affects everyone, but 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:59.800 it also disproportionately affects marginalized people, low income, people of color, 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.000 cross class and race lines, and it Yeah, there's well, 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:06.480 we'll also link to resources on that. That's I think 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.560 just one of the one of the few important points 0:09:10.559 --> 0:09:15.440 about abortion that this movie didn't completely skip. Yes, yeah, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:20.680 uh so I just want to put that right at 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:24.680 the top, and I think I'm just gonna I'm just 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:29.720 gonna read it because that it Unfortunately, this Linda West 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.440 quote goes viral every couple of months when they try 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:37.079 to repeal Roe v. Wade every couple of months, but 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.199 it is I mean Linda West is brilliant, and I 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.600 just want to read it here before we get into 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:47.600 uh duncan on the movie, which is what we're good at. 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:50.840 Uh So, this is Lyndy West on The Daily Show 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:54.000 a couple of years ago. I believe she says this quote. 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.840 Anti choice people are not trying to stop abortion. They're 0:09:56.840 --> 0:10:00.480 trying to legislate who can and cannot have abortions because 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:04.200 conservative politicians, their wives and mistresses and daughters are always 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:07.040 going to be able to get an abortion somewhere. All 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.480 criminalizing abortion will do is keep people trapped in poverty 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.600 for generations. That's the goal. And if it wasn't the goal, 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.160 they would spend their time and money on comprehensive sex education, 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:23.880 free birth control, and free contraception. Unquote. Yeah, no, notes, 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:29.200 and I'm upset. It's a very upsetting time in the world. 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:35.680 Should I recap I'm pregnant? Yeah, all right. We open 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:40.200 on Veronica played by Hailey lou Richardson. She is taking 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.480 a pregnancy test in the bathroom at her high school. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:48.200 A girl walks into the bathroom while this is happening. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:53.360 This girl is Bailey played by Barbie Ferrara. We learn 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:57.080 that Veronica and Bailey used to be best friends but 0:10:57.320 --> 0:11:01.560 had a falling out at some point. The test turns 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:08.800 out to be positive. Veronica is pregnant or she I 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.160 was gonna say, this movie is even though we're like 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:15.120 even in the depths of Hell. The movie is called 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.600 ant it is called on. That's just a fact. It 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:22.160 was embarrassing. I mean, and I didn't want it because 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:23.880 it is like, it's a movie that you want to 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.000 root for, but there it was embarrassing that literally all 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:31.280 the marketing materials were misspelled. It's not a good look. 0:11:31.559 --> 0:11:34.520 It's not a good look. Everyone the movie is called 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:38.120 they're saying it wrong. The whole movie they messed up 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:40.800 spelled wrong on the poster. I bet it spelled wrong. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:45.080 I like, hello, yeah, why didn't you call us to 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:49.680 consult because that would have been our only note. Exactly fine, 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:54.959 and replace prag with greg Thank you. That scene where 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:59.840 they're on the ride at the carnival and Veronica is 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.520 dreaming I'm pregnant, she kept messing that line read up. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.920 She should have been screaming I'm gregnant. I was like, 0:12:07.960 --> 0:12:10.280 don't we have another take of that where she's saying 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:15.040 the line correctly. It's it's gay and gregnant. We're gay 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:18.360 and we're gregnant. But yeah, I mean alliteration that scenes 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.680 should have been really hilarious and empowering, but I couldn't 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.200 get past the distraction of of the of the line 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:28.440 being said wrong over and of her Yeah. All right, Well, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:34.079 so she is confirmed to be gregnant. Apparently the condoms 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:39.960 she used with her boyfriend, Kevin we're not effective. Veronica 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.960 is freaking out. She goes home and researches getting an 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.320 abortion and learns that because she's in Missouri and she's 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.960 under eighteen I believe she's seventeen, she would need her 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:56.160 parents permission to have an abortion, which she can't ask 0:12:56.240 --> 0:13:02.679 for because her parents are conservative and religious. The closest 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:06.760 place where she would not need parental consent as a 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:11.720 minor to get an abortion is Albuquerque, New Mexico, which 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:16.720 is a roughly fifteen hour drive from where she lives. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:24.720 I believe this is all um accurate. So far, so good? Yeah, sadly, Yeah. Unfortunately, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.640 Veronica packs a bag and tells her mom that she's 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.840 going to spend the weekend with her friends studying. She 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.400 goes to her friend's place, but it turns out that 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.640 someone had found her pregnancy test at school in the dumpster, 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.400 and all of her friends are speculating on who it 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.199 belongs to. So Veronica, realizing her friends are going to 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.480 be very judge, decides not to tell them that it's 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:53.960 her who is pregnant. She sorry, gregnant, Yeah, I'm so sorry. 0:13:54.480 --> 0:13:59.320 He's not like Hanley Richardson. It's embarrassing. She does tell 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:03.400 her boy friend Kevin, and he responds by asking her 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.920 to marry him, and then reveals that around a month ago, 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:10.120 after they were done having sex, he noticed that the 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:14.280 condom had broken, but didn't tell her. She's very upset 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.800 by this and storms out, Yeah parts parts of this 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.320 scene work for me. Others I'm like, what is going 0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:27.040 on at this? Definitely not in Olive Garden. Uh okay. 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:31.880 So side note, Jamie and I and our friend Bryant 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.520 are in a group chat called all of Garden Friends, 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.960 and as we speak at this very moment, Bryant is 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:43.400 texting us from the Olive Gorden Friends group chat, probably 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:45.880 asking us to go to Alive Garden. I'm guessing he's 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:48.680 trying to get us. It's even more embarrassing he's trying 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:52.120 to get us to join his amc A List entourage, 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.680 which I will, which I'm I'm literally doing it right now. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:05.920 Is God. Our lives are quite frankly embarrassing, but we're 0:15:05.960 --> 0:15:13.640 really good at it. Okay. So then Veronica goes to 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:18.640 Bailey and asks if she will drive Veronica to Albuquerque. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.520 Bailey agrees. They leave that night. That was one of 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:26.160 my favorite moments in the entire movie. Barbie Fera is 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:30.160 so funny and charming where she's that thing where she 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.160 slams the door in her face and then she opens 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.360 the door again and she's like, I was kidding, I 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.120 do not have anything going on right. It's so funny. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.560 I love her very good. So they set off. They 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:45.120 stop at a pawn shop so that Veronica can pawn 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:49.040 the engagement ring that Kevin gave her, but he shows 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:53.160 up because he was following her. Yeah, because he's a stalker. 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.280 But it's a joke. But it's not that you're just like, hello, 0:15:56.520 --> 0:16:03.120 what Kevin character is all over the place. Anyways, it's, uh, 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:09.560 we need to talk about Kevin and we will we Wow, Wow, 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.680 we do need to talk about Kevin. I'm gonna also 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.000 someday we're going to have to cover a Kevin Smith movie, 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.480 and then and then we're really going to need to 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.200 talk about Kevin. Oh my gosh, there's going to come 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.240 a day when we're gonna need to talk about Kevin who. Well, 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.960 we're the other Kevin's Kevin Costner movie to talk about 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.360 that Kevin passed. I hate him so much. He's like 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.440 my least favorite Hollywood figure. Who the Kevin. I like 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.960 Kevin Klein. I like Kevin Vinkin is good. A Fish 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:37.240 called Wanda is a fun movie. We don't need to 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.680 talk about that, Kevin, but but I would be happy 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:49.000 to sure. Anyways, Kevin's sorry an important aspect of the episode. Yeah, alright, 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:53.600 So Kevin was stalking Veronica, but they get rid of 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.480 him and continue on their way. Along the way, Veronica 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.160 and Bailey start to bond and rekindle their friendship a bit, 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:05.439 but Bailey also judges Veronica for the person she's become. 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:09.960 She's become this kind of like sheeple carbon copy of 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.119 all the popular girls that she's friends with. The classic 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:15.560 It's you know that thing that happens in every movie, 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:21.240 right where one change but one is a computer video game. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.960 One's a video game, and one's a book and that's 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:29.760 not cool. And you changed because Star Trek and I 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:31.879 was like, all right, now we're talking. Now we're talking. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.439 She's like, we used to speak cling on together, and 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.360 now we don't speak cling on together because you're too 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:41.880 busy to do your homework. Question Mark Rict? Anyways, who knows? 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:46.119 Who knows? The next morning, they set off again, a 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.439 bit behind schedule. They make a pit stop for some 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:53.520 food and Veronica reveals that she hasn't made an appointment 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:58.080 yet to get the abortion. Bailey reveals that the car 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.960 they're driving she's ole from her mom's boyfriend, and the 0:18:03.040 --> 0:18:06.520 cops are following them because of this stolen vehicle, so 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:11.159 they have to bail and abandon the car. But some 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.800 friends that they met at the diner where they stopped, um, yeah, 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:18.600 they meet when he starts sexually harassing them, but then 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.680 he quickly becomes a hero and their friend. There's a 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.160 whole thing to talk about with this character. But this 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.679 guy named Rod and his friends kind of swoop in 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.840 and give them a ride to these fair grounds that 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:38.760 are near a bus stop. There at the fair slash 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:45.399 Derby Center, they meet Kiarra Matthews, who is this Derby 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:51.560 racer lady who Bailey develops an instant crush on. Bailey 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:56.240 comes out to Veronica. There's a discussion to be had 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:01.000 about this whole situation, but um, they to Carnival Ride 0:19:01.280 --> 0:19:04.679 and scream about how they are gay and gregnant. But 0:19:04.720 --> 0:19:09.280 then again Hayley Richardson gets the line wrong. Then this 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:13.639 married couple Kate and Mark played by Sugar Lynde Beard 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:19.080 and breck and Meyer. You're like, what this is. There's 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:23.879 this suspension of disbelief you have to do from this 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:27.720 point onward. It's a road trip movie. But it's just like, wow, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.280 We're yeah, they really they really take it to I 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.719 think the second they're like ditch a car at a 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:37.280 diner in Texas, You're just like, all right, well, I 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:39.680 guess the movie. The part of the movie that made 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:44.560 sense to be has ended. It's ceased to exist. This Honestly, 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.960 this script felt like Also there's five credited writers, which 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:52.120 is usually indication that, like, you know, there's a lot 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:56.879 of ideas and inconsistencies and things all mashed together. This 0:19:57.000 --> 0:19:59.320 felt like a second draft of a script, and it 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.800 needed like a fourth or fifth draft. So and it's 0:20:02.800 --> 0:20:05.680 abover because it's a lot of a lot of good writers, 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:11.040 including Jennifer Cayton Robinson, who wrote Someone Great. She also 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:15.320 is a credited writer on upcoming thor Love and Thunder. 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.840 Maybe they weren't given enough time question mark. I read. 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:21.520 I read that the director Rachel Lie Goldenberg, who was 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:24.640 also a creditive writer, um that this movie was made 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:30.320 on a very very very tight turnaround. It shows you're 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:35.240 so mean. I am mean, but I'm so mean about this. 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:38.840 Let me defend myself here. I think a fun romp 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.440 like road trip romp about girls trying to access an 0:20:43.440 --> 0:20:48.560 abortion is such a great premise and if executed well, 0:20:48.640 --> 0:20:50.560 it could have it could be a movie that, like 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:54.040 people want to revisit over and over for years to 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.880 come because there's a lot of value in a very 0:20:56.920 --> 0:21:00.760 good movie that also makes an important statement. But if 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.399 a movie is just sort of like executed not that 0:21:03.520 --> 0:21:06.840 well and it's not gonna like, it doesn't really stand 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:11.159 a chance of being like a cultural touchstone, when a 0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:14.600 movie like this should be a cultural touchstone, you know. 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.480 But that's a lot of pressure to put on one 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:20.320 movie just because it's about abortion. Fair I do believe 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.879 that there's better movies to come that can take a 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:28.280 concept like this and hopefully have the time and money 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.679 to make a meal of it. Yeah, because it does like, 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.760 at some point just take a turn for the bizarre 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:37.800 in a way that does feel like Pineapple Expressie, I 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.639 guess where you're just or like hangovery, where you're like, Okay, 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:42.840 they're just this is just like we're going from set 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.000 piece to set piece and where there's gonna be a 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.560 lot of character actors and there's gonna be a lot 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:50.800 of really dangerous crimes that are supposed to be funny, 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.520 and you know, I don't know. Yeah, once the once 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:57.439 the car thing happens, I'm just like, oh, this is 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.560 not the grounded indeed road trip be I thought I 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:06.600 was watching, right, I still haven't seen Never rarely sometimes always. 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:11.040 I think that might be a more grounded and probably 0:22:11.080 --> 0:22:14.960 less like fun tonally, but just like a more grounded, 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:18.879 probably better executed version of this premise. But I again 0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.439 cannot really speak to it because I have not seen it. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:24.200 But we should consider covering that one at some point too. 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.920 We should. Hey, I mean they're they're you know, they'll 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.280 be they'll be back for our rights. So there's always 0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:34.840 going to be there. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, don't you worry. 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:43.040 It's it's Oh sorry if we sound weird today. Uh sorry, 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.800 it's not great. It's not our fault. Also that I 0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:49.240 will I will say one of my least favorite things 0:22:49.240 --> 0:22:52.200 about this movie is the tagline, which is She's a 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:56.640 taype A without a Plan. B. I was like, I mean, 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.800 it's not the worst, but I don't hate it. I 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.480 She's a taipe without a plan V. It's like, but 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:10.520 they didn't spell ungregnant, right, Yeah? What um mistakes? Breckon 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.760 Meyer Commire and his wife. Breckon Meyer approaches you at 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:20.600 a county fair in Texas, w y d start in 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:24.640 his car. He's like, hey, I overheard that you need 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:28.720 a ride to New Mexico. We're headed there, and they 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.960 offer Bailey and Veronica a ride, which they accept, but 0:23:33.080 --> 0:23:36.760 before they head off, Bailey and Kira meet up at 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:41.720 the fair. They kiss, yeah, and then Veronica and Bailey 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.679 leave with this married couple who have a baby. So 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:48.560 they seem harmless. That's why they, you know, accept the ride. 0:23:48.600 --> 0:23:51.800 This ride from strangers. But this couple turns out to 0:23:51.840 --> 0:23:56.480 be these anti choice crusaders who had actually overheard them 0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:01.080 talking about Veronica getting an abortion and making the appointment, 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:05.640 which another suspension of disbelief, saying that I'm just like, 0:24:06.000 --> 0:24:11.800 how did they hear? What? No? Anyway, so then they 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.280 kind of abduct Veronica and Bailey, but it's like funny abduction. 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.280 It's it's so wild and zany. They steal the couple's 0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:23.240 SUV and escape, but Breck and Meyer chases them in 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:28.960 their scary anti abortion RV. They managed to get away 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.880 and they head to a nearby town and find this 0:24:31.920 --> 0:24:36.160 guy Bob played by June Carlo Esposito. Yeah, so you're like, oh, 0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:38.760 we're just we're just going there, like okay, Breck and 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:43.880 Meyer tapping him out. Let's tap jan Carlos Busito in like, 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.960 it's just like cars. It is like a character actor 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:53.920 relay race at some point, Yeah, truly. Yeah. Bob owns 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:56.680 a limousine service and he takes them the rest of 0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:59.679 the way to Albuquerque, but on the way, Veronica and 0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:03.320 Bailey get in a fight because Veronica said some shitty 0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:06.920 things about Bailey to her friends on the phone that 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:11.479 Bailey overhears. So Bailey storms off, but Veronica tracks her 0:25:11.480 --> 0:25:14.720 down again. Turns out Bailey had gone to her dad's 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:19.000 plant shop in Albuquerque because she wants to reconnect with him, 0:25:19.040 --> 0:25:23.960 but he blows Bailey off. Allah Kim Cattrell blowing Britney 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:30.080 Spears off in Crossroads. Hello, I okay, I did not 0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:35.199 thank you thank you for the Crossroads representation. I literally okay. 0:25:35.280 --> 0:25:38.960 So fun fact about me. I do work with mostly 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.200 men at my day job, you know, and that's brave 0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:45.879 of me. And I tried to contextualize something I was 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.280 pitching for an outline the other day in the context 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:55.200 of Crossroads, and how did that go? They They were like, wait, 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:57.360 it's our favorite movie. We love it so much. Why 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:01.320 isn't it easier to access? Uh? Shanda's early work is 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:04.600 so underrated? They all said that. In unit said they 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:08.280 were like, isn't that a store anyway? Isn't that a 0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:13.920 thrift shop? Alright, dude rock Anyways. So Bailey is trying 0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.280 to reconnect with her dad, but he's being an asshole. 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:21.040 So Veronica calls him out, tells him out how awesome 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:26.560 Bailey is, and then she tastes him. She sure. Then 0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:28.600 they go the rest of the way to the clinic, 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:31.320 where I'm just glad they used the taser because it 0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:34.000 was like a Chekhov's taser situation. It was a Chekhovs 0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:38.359 tasers certainly, and that's how they decided to use it. 0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.560 Good for them. Um. They go the rest of the 0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:45.760