1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: Okay, double Elvis. In the beginning, there was light, then 2 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: there was food, then there was sex, and I'm not 3 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: absolutely sure of the order of those two. It's hard 4 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: to distinguish arousal via carbon dating, but I'm certain that 5 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: after that there was music. And those are the fundamentals 6 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Shelter gets figured out after we eat and dance and 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: get it on. Now that's just science. Victoria's Deacon University, 8 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: as part of the thirty first survey of the Australian 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: Unity Well Being Index, sought to provide insight into the 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: relationship between music engagement and s w B. You know 11 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: s WB, it's the one thing we're all after, subjective 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: well being, and so a random sample of a thousand 13 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: participants revealed that engaging with music by dancing or attending 14 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: musical events was associated with higher s WB than those 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: who engaged with music in other ways. The findings also 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: emphasized the important role of engaging with music in the 17 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: company of others. With regard to some good old debut 18 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: b everyone reported higher levels of satisfaction with their lives. 19 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: So thank you science. We knew this already, but it's 20 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: important to emphasize the fundamentals get in line. Now, stay 21 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: in time with the rhythm and the rhyme. Get around 22 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: town where the people look good, where the music is loud. 23 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: Get around town. No need to stand proud, add your 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: voice to the sound of the crowd, the human League. 25 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: So this whole podcast was conceived in We're about to 26 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: head out and travel around telling the stories of these 27 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: cities and the temples within them in this legacy of 28 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: live music America. What it felt like, what it sounded like. 29 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: And then something happened, something that made the two elements 30 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: travel and live music and communal gathering just disappear overnight. 31 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: So it's amazing now to be at the end of 32 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: this first season. There are moments when I didn't think 33 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: it would happen, but here we are. There's concerts every 34 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: night of the week around America, and along with that 35 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: is a never ending cascade of TV shows, movies. Sixty 36 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: tho songs come out a day, there's no shortage of podcasts, 37 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: and my handheld computer keeps giving me plenty of thumb 38 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: exercises even when I know it is not good for me. 39 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: And as far as breaking news goes, I don't know 40 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: that news will ever be mended again. Is permanently shattered 41 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: with tragic and euphoric alerts for every waking second. It's 42 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: a lot of content. That's the tyranny of content. It's 43 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: impossible to keep up with it all, to let it 44 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: all in and actually live a life of your own 45 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: at the same time, and you know, keep a check 46 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 1: on that good old s WB. And on top of that, 47 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: we've all been through a lot, and we're going through 48 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: a lot our individual and collective anxiety, stress, and sadness. 49 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: It's had a sustained peak that can't be wished away, 50 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: and even if we get good at ignoring it, it's 51 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: still tugs at the strings. And I'm not being a 52 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: rose I'm just being honest. I've played about a hundred 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: and sixty shows since spring of and and I've just 54 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: been listening to what everyone has to say. Well, I'm 55 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: out there. The thing is, when we're all out there, 56 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: oiled up with some live music, there is a higher 57 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: s w B and all that other ship starts to 58 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: fade away. I feel it on stage, and I felt 59 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: it in the audience this year when I've seen shows 60 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: by Tangier's blues band, Paul McCartney letters, Tokayhan Pearl Jams, 61 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: Rhett Miller, Bob and the Loyal Sees, Willie Nile, Wet 62 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: Leg Will Close, Leader Killed Latrelle, James Metallica, Tory Tory, 63 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: Avril Lavine, Julie RhoD Black, Boomsaman The Farrell, Sharon van At, 64 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Lady Pills Right, Joe p Bruno, mars In, Mayvis Staples, 65 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: the actual dollar price of being on the road right now, 66 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: at a time when everyone is out there trying to 67 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: get their groove back and their mojo on and make 68 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: up for that feeling of lost time. That's taxing on 69 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: a lot of artists. Never mind that tyranny of content 70 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: always creeping in on our subjective well being. But this 71 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: season of Sound of Our Town exists not as another 72 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: drop into that content abyss, but as a reminder of 73 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: what is out there and has always been out there 74 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: for all of us, and why it burnt out. Artists 75 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 1: are forever drawn back to you and us. We're all 76 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: just trying to tap into that original and fundamental law 77 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: of being alive. So to wrap up this season, I'm 78 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: going to talk to my friends Rhett Miller, Umpa and 79 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: Busy Phillips about live music, the places we visited this 80 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: season in our pursuit of s w B. The Sound 81 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: of Our Town is a podcast about the music that 82 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: shaped the cities of America. If it's about where you're 83 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: going and where you want to go to find here 84 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: and feel the best music happening right now, it's about 85 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: what sounds and places have shaped the city's culture and 86 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: what new sounds continue to define it. Most importantly, it's 87 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: about getting together in a room to listen and why 88 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: that matters, so whether you were quickly dropping in landing 89 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: for a long stay, or longing for more musical connection 90 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: in life. In each episode of Sound of Our Town, 91 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I will introduce you to the real places in sonic 92 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: stories echoing in a particular town, so that your travel 93 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: and your time is enriched with music. I'm Will Day, 94 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm an independent songwriter and performer. In this is our 95 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: very special wrap up episode of season one. It's a recap, 96 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: it's a party. I'm gonna share my bloopers from trying 97 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: to speak English this season, and I'm talking to a 98 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: few friends about live music in the places they love. 99 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: I had the real honor of sitting down with three friends, 100 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: one who's a brilliant actress, writer and activist by way 101 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: of Phoenix, Arizona, Los Angeles and New York City, one 102 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: who is a powerful and relentless poet and musician by 103 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: way of Boston. And one who is the epitome of 104 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: troubadour rocker and dedicated songwriter by way of Texas and 105 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: upstate New York. And I got to ask them a 106 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: bunch of questions about the sound of their town. I'll 107 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: let them introduce themselves. Um oompah, And I'm an artist. 108 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: My name is Busy Phillips. I am an actor and 109 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: a writer and a person. Hi. I'm Reet Miller, musician, 110 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: author and podcast host. What was the first concert you 111 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: ever went to? The first concert that I went to, 112 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: I want to say it was John Legend in college 113 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: when I was on my twenty one birthday and he's 114 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: saying happy birthday to me. Yeah. I think that was 115 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: my first concert ever. Yeah. I went to Juliana Hatfield 116 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: three at a small club. That was the first concert 117 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: I chose to go to. My big sister Chuck me 118 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: I was innth grade. My first concert that I really 119 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: think of as a concert was the Cars at Reunion 120 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Arena in Dallas, Texas. Wang Chung opened the show. The 121 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: cars were on their Heartbeat City tour and they had 122 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 1: that crazy stage setup, which supposedly was the Andy Warhol 123 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: had some input on. It was an incredible show. The 124 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: first concert I actually went to with my family was 125 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: Paul McCartney Wings at like a su stadium, and we 126 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: were in literally like the highest point in the stadium 127 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: that you could be. But I was very little. I 128 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: just remember like feeling he did not know enough of 129 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: the songs. I was really like when the Beatles hits 130 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: came out, I like was on board, and the rest 131 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: of the time I felt kind of cold and sleepy. 132 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: I think that the Juliana Hatfield show really began my 133 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: like going to see live music thing. The first show 134 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: that my parents dragged me to, which found up actually 135 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: being pretty transformative in itself, was at Kingston Trio show 136 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: at a dinner theater, and I remember thinking, oh my god, 137 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: I feel so sad for these old men having to 138 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: play while people eat their steak. And later now I 139 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,719 Speaker 1: make a living going around playing and what is essentially 140 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: a dinner theater circuit and people eat their high end 141 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: chicken fried steak, and those guys probably then were twenty 142 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: years younger than I am now, so it's all perspective. 143 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: And what was the last concert that you went to. 144 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: The last concert I went to, I believe was Jasmin Sullivan. Incredible, 145 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 1: incredible show, just vocals, energy. She had just like got 146 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:20,239 Speaker 1: off of COVID and um, she was like feeling insecure, 147 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: like she has a bunch of body changes at the time, 148 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: but she gave such an amazing performance. Like I went 149 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 1: with my best friend because she and I love R 150 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: and B, but especially Jasminsullivan and this last album, Like 151 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: we play a NonStop so we could I guess we 152 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: couldn't even assess the quality of performance, although I know 153 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: it was good and vocally she's incredible, but we were 154 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: just singing every song, old songs, new songs, anything she 155 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: put out, like under whatever. It was like at the 156 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: top of our lungs. So you didn't You couldn't go 157 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: anywhere in that space and not hear people screaming the songs. 158 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: I went to see The Killers on Saturday night with 159 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: my friends from l A who came in town. Here 160 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: are friends with those guys, um, But I ended up 161 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: having to leave early because my own child, my fourteen 162 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: year old, was seeing Muna at Irving Plaza and Bertie 163 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: was with some older friends that were supposed to like 164 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: uber Bertie back to our house after the show, but 165 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: then they had to catch their train to their house, 166 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: and then their mom was mad. So Bertie called me. 167 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: I was at the stadium. I was at at Madison 168 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: Square Garden and Bertie called me. It was like, they 169 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: can't uber me home. I don't know what to do, 170 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'll come. I'm coming to get you. 171 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: So I took a train, ran over and got my 172 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: kid at Muna, which is so cute and amazing. And 173 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: then I found out that Porches was also playing that night. 174 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: I was like, what a great night for music. The 175 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: last concert I attended as an audience member was boy, 176 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: I can't even remember. There must have been something really recently. 177 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: I feel like I see the Pixies about once a year. 178 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: I was supposed to go see the Pixies in New 179 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: York City, uh tomorrow night, and I just couldn't do 180 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: it because I've only been home from my own tour 181 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: for twenty four hours and I only have twenty four 182 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: hours before I leave on another tour, and to drive 183 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: into Manhattan to see a rock show is too much 184 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: my next concert that I look forward to go into. 185 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't have any costs lined up, but when Beyonce 186 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: tours renaissance is over, I will sell a limb to 187 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: make sure that I'm close and I get to have 188 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: that concert experience. I don't know for sure if I 189 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: will be at another concert before whenever Taylor Swift throws 190 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 1: tickets on sale, but I've promised my daughter that when 191 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift next announce as a tour, we will be 192 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: front and center for that. I was bummed I missed 193 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: Lizzo the other night, but I did see Lizzo at 194 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: the Palladium right before the album came out, which was 195 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: like a really about The energy was like insane because 196 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: it was very clear it was about to happen to her. 197 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: She was like just on the precipose of being the 198 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: biggest star in the world. Um. I love bright Music 199 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: Hall because it's where I saw Lizzo the year before 200 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: she popped. So whenever I'm in Brighton Music Hall and 201 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't even full, and it wasn't full, 202 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: like she was still torn coconut oil like the mixtape 203 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: or the I don't know if it was an EP 204 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 1: or not, but the next year she blew up and 205 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: I just was like, Okay, this is how it can happen. 206 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: Like I could be on this stage with a DJ 207 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: and three dances today and I could be truth Hurts 208 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: Lizzo tomorrow. What is a music town? Any town can 209 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: be a music town. And to me, towns go through cycles, 210 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: and I think this is with regards to how that 211 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: town maybe perceives or appreciates my own music. For years, 212 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 1: Milwaukee was a town that just had to be the 213 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: night after Madison, and you're like, oh God, here comes Milwaukee. 214 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: And then for you know, the last decade, Milwaukee has 215 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: been this shining jewel on the itinerary um. But then 216 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: most recently we went through Milwaukee and played on a 217 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: Sunday night at a at a club that apparently isn't 218 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: as well attended as some clubs, and and and the 219 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: attendance went down, and it made me wonder, Oh, no, 220 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: is Milwaukee slipping? Is Milwaukee not going to be? Is 221 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: Milwaukee no longer the music town it once was? Whereas 222 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: before Madison had been in a bit of a slump 223 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: for us recently, and we had all sort of decided, well, 224 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: maybe we're no longer since we're not so far now 225 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: from being a college band, maybe college towns aren't as 226 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: um you know, rewarding for us to roll through. But 227 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: then we go to Madison and we played at the 228 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: Majestic in Madison and it was incredible, and I thought, well, 229 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: here we go. I guess we're a college town banned again. 230 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's to me, it's like sine waves. It's cycles. 231 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I've never been to like Nashville 232 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: or you know what I mean, Like, I don't know 233 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: what that is, like where musicians go to make music. 234 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, I've always sought out the shows 235 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: coming through town. So even when I was growing up 236 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: in Arizona, I felt like I saw every band I 237 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: wanted to see. You had to really be on it. 238 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean you had that back then. There was no 239 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: obviously Internet. You had to get that, you know, the 240 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Phoenix New Times every Friday and dig through it and 241 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: find what shows you were going to go to. If 242 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: I had to think of the town that is consistently 243 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: a music town, and it's a cliche, but Austin will 244 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: never not be a music town Chicago will never not 245 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: be a music town. A music town to me is 246 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: one that varies in sound, in genre, and feel in 247 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: it's not It doesn't necessarily have to be a place 248 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: that's known for music. It just has to be a 249 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: place you can go to and find new music and 250 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: or find a community that you belong that you could 251 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: belong to. Yeah, that's censored in music it in some way. Um, 252 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: and you know I'm biased, So I have to say 253 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: Boston is a is a music town, and not because 254 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: of reputation in terms of like having a lot of industry, 255 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, sort of. I don't want to say history 256 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: because that's not true, but we're not known as the 257 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: city that breaks artists into the mainstream. And I think 258 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: that's okay. Not that there aren't aspirations there, but I 259 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: think that what makes it a music town is that 260 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: is exactly what I said. You can go any corner 261 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: of Boston and you're gonna find something that belongs to 262 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, something that you belong to. Rather. Do you 263 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: have a favorite venue or club. It maybe recentcy bias, 264 00:15:53,880 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: but Chicago Stallie Hall is built in is probably my 265 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: favorite venue at the moment, although historically my favorite venue 266 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: has been the Filmore in San Francisco. It's a historical 267 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: document this venue. It's just you sit in the dressing 268 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: room there and you think about all the other artists 269 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: that have sat in that exact dressing room and done 270 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: god knows what in that exact dressing room and then 271 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: gone down onto that stage to perform under those chandeliers, 272 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: and yeah, the film wore is the film More. San 273 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: Francisco is pretty hard to beat, but Chicago Stall Hall 274 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: is getting ever closer year after year. Um. I like 275 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: different venues for different reasons, so um, rest in peace, 276 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: Gray Scott. I really loved Grace Scott as a venue 277 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: because it was where I did my first show, my 278 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: first you know self, like my first headline of show 279 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: for myself indie show, and it's sold out and so 280 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I have that fond memory there. I really like the Palladium. 281 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: I like the Fonda a lot and the Drugsden Marty 282 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: and Elane And someone's got to take that torch. It's 283 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: a very specific torch to take you and I could 284 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: do it when we get older, I mean we should 285 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's what we should do. Over the years, 286 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: I've gotten to play the most historic New York City 287 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: venues Radio City and Carnegie Hall. UM as an opener 288 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: at Radio City for Tory Amos years ago. Carnegie Hall 289 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: I played as part of a tribute to R. E. M. 290 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: So I've been on the stage of both of those venues. UM. 291 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: Ditto the Rieman in Nashville, but again I was opening 292 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: for Chris Isaac there. I've never gotten to do a 293 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: proper show, a headlining show at those historic venues, The Rieman, Carnegie, 294 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: and Radio City, to me are there's sort of the 295 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: pinnacle of performing arts venues. You know there there there's 296 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,959 Speaker 1: classic as classic gets and so to get to go 297 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: do a proper show on any or all of those 298 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: three stages would really be a high water for me. 299 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: There's still things to aspire to. Geez oh, playing it 300 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: has to be the Garden. It has to be T 301 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: D Garden, Madison Square Garden, the gardens, it has to 302 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: be the gardens. Those are what I dream of playing. 303 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: I love seeing bands at the Greek Theater in Los 304 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: Angeles and the Hollywood Bowl, like there's something really magical 305 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: about that. Now. I've never been to Red Rocks, so 306 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: I would like that's a that's on the list. I 307 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: would love to go see someone a play at Red 308 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: Rocks to look out across you know, um Cane's Ballroom 309 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: and Tulsa and see an audience doing what they've been 310 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: doing on those floorboards, you know, for a hundred years. 311 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: It's just such an incredible feeling. And to think that 312 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 1: Bob Wills was doing basically what I'm doing here. And 313 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: every time we go through we try to play our 314 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 1: cover of Miss Molly, which was an old, great song 315 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: that Bob Wills used to do, and it just feels 316 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: like the thing that music always does for me. You 317 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: feel like you're part of a continuum. You know, you're 318 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: wearing on a tradition that goes back to, you know, 319 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: the campfires of the Caveman, and it just feels it 320 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: makes me feel really good, like there is a certain 321 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: nobility in this frivolous seeming thing. We do the best 322 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: concert I've ever seen. I gotta say that Madison Square 323 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: Garden and Pearl Jam Show that we went to a 324 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago was amazing. And then on par 325 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: with that was Um David Byrne and the Arcade Fire 326 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: at the Hollywood Bowl in two thousand and four two 327 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: five It was spectacular, one of the best most magical 328 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 1: evenings of my life, truly from start to finish. And 329 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: they had David Byrne had this marching band from San Francisco, 330 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: like this queer marching band from San Francisco that came 331 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: on with him, and it was just like they've marched 332 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: around the pit. I just loved David Byrne. He's just 333 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: like he's everything to me. I got to see Prince 334 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: at the Roosevelt Hotel back on the day Prince played 335 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: a show he was doing for a minute in the ballroom. 336 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, like people I was standing next 337 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: to justin Timberlake like watching Prince. It started at midnight, 338 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was like it was 339 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: like a secret intense, like you gotta be down to 340 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna be there until three in the morning, but 341 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: you're you know what I mean, But you're gonna see prints. 342 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: That was the only time I've seen Prince. It was 343 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 1: the only time I saw him. It was pretty spectacular. 344 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: I love Portland. It's like it's like a little I 345 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: don't it's you know, every time there I find something 346 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: like there's a boutique sneaker store, there's a spot that 347 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: everybody loves to go to for the pizza. There's you know, 348 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: like these cool d I y venues. Everybody sort of 349 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: it's like, it's like, what where Boston is? If Boston 350 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: wasn't such a a larger space, is what is I 351 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: think mentally what Boston wants to be or tries to 352 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: identify as that's what Portland is. But because it's so small, 353 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: it gets to be that. In Atlanta, the Old ninety 354 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: seven started off at a place called I think the 355 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: Little Five Points and we were in just a bar 356 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: that I'm not even sure is still there, but we 357 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 1: we've climbed our way up in Atlanta now. Um we 358 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: were playing for a while at the Variety Playhouse, which 359 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: is a pretty cool room. It's it's almost too cool. 360 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: You feel like you're on some sort of Broadway stage. 361 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: But in Atlanta we have landed now at a place 362 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: called Terminal West, which is an old train station. And 363 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: there couldn't be any more perfect venue for my band 364 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: that's named after a train wreck than an old train station. 365 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: And it's just such a great place for the Old 366 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: ninety Seven's to put on a show. And every time 367 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: we go there, we have a great show. In the 368 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: Atlanta crowd, there's something about being squished between the two 369 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: haughty coasts. You know, the coasts are overwhelmed by the 370 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: industry and the the jaded fans who've got everybody you know, 371 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: booking every single night. They could go out to see 372 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: any incredible show. But you go to those cities in between, 373 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: especially the big ones like Atlanta and Chicago. In Atlanta, 374 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: they're so grateful when you roll up with a big, 375 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: kick ass rock show and the old Lighting sevens go 376 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: into Terminal West, you know, the old train station, and uh, 377 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: it's just it winds up being such a great show 378 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: every night. I love Atlanta. I love Atlanta, and I 379 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: gotta do my my hustler push ups to really do 380 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: well in Atlanta. I love it because hip hop is prominent, 381 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: self reliant again, like you can you can, if you 382 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: could think it, you could do it. In Atlanta, the 383 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 1: hustle is crazy, like you know, like people and like 384 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: I think about up north, like New York, right, you 385 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: think about the the ingenuity of people up there, like 386 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: if they could think it, they will sell it, right. 387 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: But then there's this sort of like this vibe of 388 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 1: like it can't be quality, right, but like you can 389 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: be in Atlanta. You say, I'm gonna sell eyelashes, you know, 390 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: like gluant eyelashes. And there's whole businesses that you know 391 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: you wanna you wanna do, like a sushi soul restaurant. 392 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: You're gonna find clients, you know, like you want to 393 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: have a trap museum. Shout out to two Chains. You're 394 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna have a trap museum, you know. And I love 395 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:31,199 Speaker 1: that all right? And what about those extra spots, like 396 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: what about food and you know hidden gems. There's a 397 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: restaurant connected to Talia Hall in Chicago called dos X. 398 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's when we're on a bus and 399 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: we roll up to tell you Hall, I typically am 400 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: trying to make it into dos X before they stopped 401 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: serving their brunch, which is incredible. But now the backstage 402 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: menu in the dress room re Talia Hall is from 403 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: dos X. And so we were there a few nights 404 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: ago and I had out um, I had this this 405 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: um crazy avocado salad. I mean it was. It was 406 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: just so great. Anytime you can give me a venue 407 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: that's got a great restaurant attached to it, I'm a 408 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: happy rock and roller. Atlanta had my favorite kind of 409 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: spot and inspired like I think it's called boogaloo or 410 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: something like that, and it's like it's like a brunch spot. 411 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: They have a DJ and they have swings at the bar, 412 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: so if you come in and you're sitting on a 413 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: swing at the bar with your breakfast, like your brunch drinks, 414 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: and then they have it like so sometimes they have 415 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 1: it like buffet style and you can get all the 416 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: southern food, like if you're into sweets, I'm not like 417 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: red velvet cake like whatever else. I think it's called boogaloo, 418 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 1: which I didn't even know it was a word, I think, 419 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: until I learned that it was dance related. So there's 420 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: a guitar story in Nastbury Park that's walking distance from 421 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: the strip where Stone Pony and Wonder Bar and the 422 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: boardwalk and everything is. It's called Russo Music and it's 423 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: it's like a it's like a guitar lover's guitar store. 424 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: And I bought a twelve string acoustic there and I 425 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: go there and drool over there inventory every time I'm 426 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: in town. And the people that work there super nice. 427 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: Everybody's in a band. Um. I was turned onto it 428 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: by Nicole Atkins, who said Asbury native and a Jersey 429 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: Beach girl. But it's it's not something I would expect. Usually. 430 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: I would think i'd find a guitar store, you know, 431 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: in Manhattan, and certainly there are any number of guitar 432 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: stores in Manhattan. But down in Asbury Park, it's where 433 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:42,479 Speaker 1: I found one of my favorite little guitar stores. So 434 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: in the l A episode, he I recap kind of 435 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: my experiences there over the years. I had you, I 436 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: had you in the scene in the script and so 437 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: to speak, but I had you kind of crying, and 438 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I didn't make that up. 439 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,239 Speaker 1: But I kind of feel like there's more the one 440 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: show where I've seen you crying, and I want to 441 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: make sure I'm not doing something wrong. Oh I've cried 442 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: at your shows, for sure. For sure. I also just 443 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: get like sometimes I get really overwhelmed. You know. Ed 444 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: Drocy of the former band Grizzly Bear is a really 445 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: close friend of mine. He's one of his last shows, 446 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: one of the Grizzly Bears like last shows was in Portland, Maine, 447 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: and it was when we were on the East coast 448 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: doing that movie in Boston. And so we went up 449 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: for the show and I was like totally overwhelmed by 450 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: his talent. You forget, Like that's what I feel like 451 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: sometimes when I see you. Um, it's certainly like that's 452 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: like the kind of the emotion behind it is that 453 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,439 Speaker 1: to me, it's a thing that I've always I don't know. 454 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Music has like changed my life in so many ways 455 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: and has connected me to people and feelings and ideas 456 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: that I wouldn't have probably been connected to other wise. 457 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: And when I'm friends with someone in real life who's 458 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: a musician, you know, you have a tendency just in 459 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: hanging out to forget about the magic that they can do, 460 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: because it's really like such a magic trick. And so 461 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: then when you see a friend like you or Ed 462 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: or Sarah Barella's do the thing, do the magic trick 463 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: for everybody, it's like kind of takes my breath away. 464 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: And really I find it like deep don know what 465 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna cry, Like I find it deeply deeply moving. Um, 466 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 1: And then I just feel so grateful that like I 467 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 1: get to be friends with that person who can do 468 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: this like magic trick that not that many people can do, 469 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, Rhett Miller has a stunning new record out. 470 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: It's called The Misfit. He's got a podcast called Wheels 471 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: Off with Rhett Miller. He'll always be making music and 472 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,479 Speaker 1: out on the road and we're all better for it. 473 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 1: The poet, the artist, the musician. You can find on 474 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: all streaming platform homes just got a type O O 475 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: M P A and you'll get where you need to go. 476 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: And every show she puts on feels like her first 477 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: and her last, and like it's to the whole world. 478 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: At the same time, Busy Phillips Stars and Girls five 479 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: Evan and she has a podcast called Busy Phillips is 480 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: doing her best. And on top of that, she's one 481 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: of the bravest activists that I know. And in about 482 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: twenty five years, you can find her at the Dresden 483 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: Monday through Thursday. And one more thing. That study specifically 484 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: found that the communal aspect was the most important part, 485 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: as regularly listening to musical loan did not cause the 486 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: same effect on social well being. And there was another 487 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: study actually funded by a large corporate concert conglomerate, that 488 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: found that attending a live music event every fourteen days 489 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: or so added nine years to your life. You could 490 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: have paid me the money to tell you that, because 491 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: I'm nine and the half. If you've been listening to 492 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: the first glorious season of Sound of Our Town, then 493 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: you already know this. I've tried to keep all these 494 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: episodes shorter than a forty minute set of music. We 495 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 1: can't be a podcast about celebrating the act of being 496 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: together with live music, this ancient and scientifically sound practice, 497 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: and have it last longer than a set at the 498 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: Hideout in Chicago on a Thursday night. So I've thrown 499 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: a lot at you, but it will always be here 500 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: to revisit when you are heading someplace new or even 501 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: vaguely familiar. I do have a checklist to leave you 502 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: with for those bi weekly at minimum live music pursuits, 503 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: with some parameters to develop our social skills after such 504 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: a harrowing and challenging past three or four years, or 505 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: three or four centuries. Even so, with your bi weekly concerts, 506 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: make sure that once a year, one you go to 507 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: with just one friend. One is with a friend you 508 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: haven't seen an over a year. One is with a 509 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: large group of people, say six plus one is for 510 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: an act you don't know at all. One should be 511 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: for a leg to see artist. One should be for 512 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: an act in their first year performing one sit down show, 513 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: maybe with dinner, so that you were fulfilling two of 514 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: those ancient fundamentals at the same time. That could be 515 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: an exciting night. One show where you have to wear 516 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: earplugs because it is so definitely heavy that a small 517 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: dose of fear is present. One festival of any size, 518 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: one alternative venue like a museum, a street corner, or 519 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: four piece on a rooftop playing their final show. One 520 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: house type concert of any size B y O B. 521 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: It often doesn't get more intimate. And then one show 522 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: by yourself in a room of strangers, all tending to 523 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: their subjective well being. I'm Will Daily and this is 524 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: Sound of Our Town. Well we did it. We have 525 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: completed season one and it has been quite a tour. 526 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: But that means there's one job left to do, and 527 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: I need your help doing it so that we can 528 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: get back on the road for season two of Sound 529 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: of Our Town. I need your help. Follow this show 530 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,479 Speaker 1: on your favorite podcast listening station, leave a review on Apple, 531 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: and just share it with one friend who you think 532 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: needs this show in their life. That's it, and then 533 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: we will surely have a season two and when we do, 534 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: and you want us to cover your town, you just 535 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: let me know by hitting me up on Instagram at 536 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: Will Daily Official or on Twitter at Will Daily. Sound 537 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: of Our Town is a production of Double Elvis and 538 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. You can hit us up on I 539 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: G at Double Elvis and Twitter at Double Elvis f M. 540 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how much appreciation is felt by 541 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: the messages we've received so far for this season. Sound 542 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: of Our Town is executively produced by Jake Brennan, Brady Sadler, 543 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: and Carl Karioli for Double Elvis Production assistance by the 544 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: Great Matt Bowden. The show is created, written, hosted, and 545 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: scored by me Will Dairy. A giant thank you to 546 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: my guests today, Busy Phillips, Rhet Miller and Umpah Into 547 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: everyone who worked on the season, Samantha Farrell, Caitlin White 548 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: At Jerty, Fia Love Smith, Gerald Dowd, Allen Tebow, Sam Fifel, 549 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: and Patrick Coleman. Music for this episode was composed and 550 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: performed by me, Will Daily. You can check out my 551 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: music anywhere there's music streaming. You can also follow me 552 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: at Instagram at Will Daily Official. If you like the 553 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: sounds you hear in the show, check out my latest release, 554 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: Easy to Be Around, and all my shows are at 555 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: will Daily dot com and Sound of Our Town pod 556 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: dot com. I guess I'm no longer a podcast rookie 557 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: as soon as I stopped recording this, But as promised, 558 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: I will leave you with just a couple of bloopers, 559 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: the most appropriate ones from this season that I saved. 560 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining me on this tour 561 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: this season, in these cities, in these places, I'm grateful. 562 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: Thank you for your years. It features some of the 563 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: best songwriters from the Phoenix music about facts. We can't 564 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 1: be a pod past. If it's a place. If it's 565 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: a place, maybe you'd say dive. It's certainly relaxed. God damnit, 566 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: Los Angeles doesn't tower over you like New York or Chicago. 567 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Chicago. I do think it's it is though 568 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: it's true. It's like the music is, you know, as 569 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Madonna said, music brings the people together.