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Speaker 2: It's time to bank. Oh yeah, Monday, Monday. Can't trust

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Speaker 2: that day. But we are back to bang. It's Morning

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Speaker 2: Combat Monday, December ninth, two thousand and twenty four, and

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Speaker 2: you've reached the best damn combat sports show of all

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Speaker 2: time period. Luke Thomas Monday, Brian Campbell and Luke. Speaking

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Speaker 2: of popular music, how about jay Z. Seems like he's

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Speaker 2: got a hundred problems now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got some lawsuits going in his direction, doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he took that Wu tang is for the children

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Speaker 2: line too, you know too?

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Speaker 1: Literally right, different different different boroughs in New York. Jay's

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Speaker 1: from Brooklyn, tenants from Staaten.

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Speaker 2: That didn't prevent my joke from crossing over.

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Speaker 3: Wu Tang's from a few different places, including Long Island,

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much?

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Speaker 1: Which which members of which? Which which of these ship

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Speaker 1: method men?

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Speaker 3: Methods from Westbo.

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Speaker 1: I'll walk that back that that's pretty great. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say like you got or something.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you can keep them.

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Speaker 2: He's still counting. So that is Long Island. Luke Usia,

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Speaker 2: your producer degenerate director.

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Speaker 1: Dude, nobody will get in defense of Wu Tang clan

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Speaker 1: more than white guys past their thirties. Yes, yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: Like he's probably just barely passed.

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Speaker 3: Us there is Luke thirty two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just crawling over that line.

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Speaker 2: We have a fantastic MK episode for you today, not

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Speaker 2: just an extensive breakdown of all things you FC three

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Speaker 2: ten over the weekend from wow wow Wow, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: protsky host. I meant to say Luke, of course, Alexandre,

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Speaker 2: how about that breakthrough victory once again to continue his

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Speaker 1: We'll get into that.

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Speaker 2: May She Barber Live twelve thirty pm Eastern Time gonna

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Speaker 2: about that UFC three twelve card coming up?

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Speaker 1: Gonna be a banger, Yeah, fun main event? Should it

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Speaker 1: have been a different main event? That's the question right

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Speaker 1: over there. Yeah, I'm okay about that. Yeah, thank you.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna find that out, Luke. We also have what

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Speaker 2: I'm calling a fantastic batch of hysts.

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Speaker 1: Now we have limited time. We got to get this

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Speaker 3: We had a good time, got high and won some money.

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Speaker 1: It's a side Is that your side hustle? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Ian Gary is a very good defensive fighter. Now. I

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Speaker 1: Do we know that? So the again preliminary research, What

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Speaker 1: Gary took it on three week notice.

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Speaker 2: It's better for business, maybe it's better for our careers.

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Speaker 1: All of that.

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Speaker 5: I wanted to come out here and talk to you guys,

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Speaker 5: and that's okay. That is okay I I am. I

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Speaker 2: I don't see any lies in there, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm basically saying like, it doesn't even matter if you

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Speaker 2: Did he win the event, did he win the story? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me be very clear, I don't even like

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Speaker 2: Look, he was so brilliant at shutting down what Shavcott

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Speaker 1: But for what our expectations were. If he felt a

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Speaker 1: But Ian Gary is a good fighter. He definitely, definitely,

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Speaker 2: Gonna get back.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna build those weapons.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing for me to already have that, those

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Speaker 2: He showed that against MVP, even if we didn't like

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Speaker 1: And he won.

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Speaker 2: He showed us that and maybe that maybe it did

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Speaker 1: He's right, we do.

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Speaker 1: He did he did. If he's not on that fight

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Speaker 1: He did a lot of work. He improved a lot.

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Speaker 1: Tons of class.

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Speaker 1: you are on Shovcot team, you cannot beat Balal Mohammed.

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Speaker 1: This fucked up. If what you're saying is and again

438
00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,679
Speaker 1: it's Cormier saying, so it's not their team. But if

439
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: the implication anyway is that he was able to get

440
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 1: this done in spite of being injured, that's impressive. It's

441
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 1: very very impressive. It is not going to get the

442
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: job done against Mohammad. So if surgery is needed and

443
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: some kind of rehab is needed, now is the time

444
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Speaker 1: to get it. Because what I don't want to hear

445
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: is like, oh, I'm just don't want to get surgery

446
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,400
Speaker 1: and then find Muhammad and you look like a version

447
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 1: of yourself that we can somewhat recognize, and they be like, well,

448
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: I did my best. Go get the medical health that

449
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 1: you need to perform at your best.

450
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Speaker 2: Well, before we get into the idea of Belal versus

451
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 2: chav Cut, provided.

452
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Speaker 1: That he's healthy. If he's not, what becomes of the

453
00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,600
Speaker 1: title picture right now? They might give it to somebody else.

454
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: I mean, who's knocking on that door for next in line?

455
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 1: The thing is this, I don't think Buckley is that

456
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 1: close if he goes and starches, although.

457
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: That would help, would help scenario place.

458
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, but if he does start

459
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 1: Colby Covington and they have to keep busy, did we

460
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 1: just saw a Poeton versus Khalil Rowntree? You could absolutely

461
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: get something like that, where hey, is he the number

462
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: one contender in Buckley if he wins versus Colby, probably

463
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 1: not number one contender? Close enough, close enough, We got

464
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,480
Speaker 1: to keep dude. The number one thing that the UFC

465
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 1: needs is for the trains to leave the station on

466
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,160
Speaker 1: time when they need a welter title bout. They need

467
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Speaker 1: the champion to be ready, and they need the contender

468
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: to be ready, and if Shofcott's not going to be ready,

469
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Speaker 1: I don't mind if somebody else gets it BC. I mean,

470
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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who the champ is by the time

471
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Speaker 1: Shotcott returns. I just want to be very clear. If

472
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Speaker 1: I still think very highly of Shofcott, I still am

473
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 1: not changing my prediction. He will wear UFC gold, but

474
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: he won't wear UFC gold this year. If he has

475
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Speaker 1: to fight Mohammed and he actually has a torn MCL,

476
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna ok okay.

477
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 2: The if Shafcott is injured, talk by remembering that Leon

478
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: Edwards is the number one contender. Would he be would

479
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: he get an opportunist would he get an opportunistic opportunity

480
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: Luke to slide in there. We know that he told

481
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: the Zone Roxing broadcast last week that he's.

482
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: Going to headline UFC London in March.

483
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 2: What if they said, hey, we need you to fight

484
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: for the Wattroway title instead, could you go back to

485
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: that matchup?

486
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Speaker 1: You could? I don't think that they would. I think

487
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: that what are you going to do?

488
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: Kamara Uswan is still ranked numbers two, which makes no sense.

489
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: You could do JDM, but I think they're going to

490
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 1: save him for that Australia card. We haven't heard that yet,

491
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: but that's my implication. Uh, the Kamarrow one, you could

492
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Speaker 1: do remember Kamaru and Blal had all of that trash talk.

493
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Speaker 2: Mao's got a lot of money in the bank. From

494
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Speaker 2: the standpoint of of us, just accepting that he's still

495
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 2: like a vibe.

496
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 1: I think washes him. I do, I think not at

497
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Speaker 1: his peak. I don't know that. I think Kamara would

498
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: probably win. I do not think that Kamara was even

499
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 1: close to his peak anymore. He had a phenomenal career

500
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: as champion, but those days arend.

501
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 2: Very well against Chamaiovan those circums.

502
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,359
Speaker 1: He's not a scrub, but he's not what he was,

503
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 1: not what he was, and I think I think Blaw

504
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: is at the peak of his powers.

505
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Speaker 2: All right now. People are saying that the face off

506
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 2: we did get in the cage afterwards, after shaf Cut

507
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,800
Speaker 2: came away with this unanimous but close decision victory and

508
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: they called for the champ and there was haha, and

509
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan spoke into the mic and said what was

510
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: probably true that the security didn't realize that Belah was

511
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Speaker 2: the champ.

512
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Speaker 1: Luke.

513
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Speaker 2: People are saying this is the most underwhelming faceoff they've

514
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: ever seen. I mean, Blall's like just wearing sweats like

515
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: he's going grocery shopping on.

516
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Speaker 1: A Sunday here. I mean, I don't mind, Matt.

517
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: I kind of wanted a little bit more of like some.

518
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 1: Oomph, didn't you. Well, do we have a picture of

519
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: it or I think we have Bla's comments let me

520
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 1: let me hear.

521
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Speaker 9: I'm here with the UFC wel toweight champion Balow Mohammad,

522
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 9: who has just watched the essentially eliminator fight between Chef

523
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 9: Catratmanov and Ian Maschado Gary. Chef cat Ratmanov's going to

524
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 9: be your next opponent. What do you say to that?

525
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 10: I'm excited, right because I was supposed to fight him now,

526
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 10: so I was studying him, watching tape on him.

527
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: Now.

528
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Speaker 10: He just gave me actually twenty five minutes to watch.

529
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 10: So I just want to get back in there spilling energy.

530
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 10: Anytime you're had to fight live seeing your opponents in

531
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 10: the cage, I'm hype. I just can't wait to get

532
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 10: in there, and I can't wait to show the world

533
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 10: that there's levels of this.

534
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: I'm the best in the world, and.

535
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Speaker 9: This is the first time chaft Cat's gone the distance

536
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 9: the light. You said, there's more tape on him. Now,

537
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 9: what did you see in that fight that maybe is

538
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 9: a vulnerability or something not a week this zone has weak?

539
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 9: Is this but something that you could capitalize on that

540
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 9: maybe you hadn't seen before.

541
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Speaker 10: There's a lot of stuff right There's when I look

542
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 10: at both of them, you could also take it in

543
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 10: a different perspective. Right, they are training partners, so maybe

544
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 10: they fought carefully for that reason. They've trained with each other.

545
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 10: They see each other and shaft gout. This was the

546
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 10: first fight like a year, So I don't I don't

547
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 10: like to look at fights and be like, oh man,

548
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 10: I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. Obviously I

549
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 10: could watch this fight and be like, I'm not impressed,

550
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 10: I'm gonna walk through them. But from my mindset, I

551
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 10: always try to take the best of every fighter that

552
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 10: I'm facing, every opponent that I'm facing. So I just

553
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 10: got to be smart with it and like I said,

554
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 10: break down the tape, look at the little things that

555
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 10: he does, see if it was something we count before,

556
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Speaker 10: and then continue to break him down.

557
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Speaker 1: I gotta say I'm very exc I did about this matchup.

558
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: Provided Chopcott can do this, do you think, Bill, I'll

559
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 2: watch some of those negative aspects of Gary's game, the defense,

560
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: the spatial control, and it's thinking, I can I can

561
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 2: take away this guy's danger just as easily.

562
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he's doing that. I do think though,

563
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: he watched that fifth round back take and was like,

564
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: thank you Jesus. That's the one that think.

565
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if he necessarily said that, oh right,

566
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: and probably not that shout out just the same.

567
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Fair enough, fair enough. But the one I want to

568
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: make is I think he saw that and was like, Okay,

569
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: there's a path here. And maybe you not just because

570
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: of that, but that was a punctuated moment where you

571
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: were like, wow, Gary was able to get the back

572
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: and keep it and Chopcott. You know, what is the

573
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: what is the negative through line between the Neil fight

574
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: for Chopcott and then this one for Shofcott. Dude just defensively,

575
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: way too reckless walking into range against Jeff Neil, unconcerned

576
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: with his power, and then here letting Gary find the choke,

577
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and you're not really fighting

578
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: the hands for a pretty extended period. How scared were you?

579
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: How scared were you in that moment? Well, like I said,

580
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: it wasn't Volkanovsky versus or take a level scared, but

581
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: you were close.

582
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Right, No, what great, great point. No, was not that scared.

583
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: But I was watching it. Here's the thing. If Gary

584
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: had been hand fighting and really just did better, I'd

585
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: be like, you know what, man, fuck it like he

586
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 1: was the better guy. But to not even employ your

587
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: hands for the hand fighting, I was like, dude, what

588
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing? That was the part that

589
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: was a little bit disconcerting at first, but nevertheless he persevered,

590
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: he got the reversal and it was what it was.

591
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: I just feel like I forgot the fuck I was

592
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: talking about Jesus Christ.

593
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: You were talking about Shavcot versus Blah Muhammad, and you were.

594
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, But Mohammad, he's gonna have a very different approach.

595
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: He is going to push into Rochmanov yes, and work

596
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: to the back. And that is a very doable game

597
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: plan against very good guys like can you see Balal

598
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: taking three rounds out of five against Chopcot doing that?

599
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: I think I think you should.

600
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: You have to avoid those sharp hammers, those counter shots

601
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: that are coming after you in a way that Gary

602
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: did not put himself in that billion percent.

603
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: And I did make this point. You saw this long

604
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: on Luke, you said you saw my recap where if

605
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: you're playing defensive long guard and you're snapping and you're

606
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: you're interrupting your base and I can't really ever get going,

607
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: and you're not letting me establish a rhythm, that's very

608
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: different than just meeting Rockmanov head on. That's cockblocking' Rockmanov

609
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: wants you, wants to wants you to meet him head on.

610
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: That's where he likes to fight. Some of what Bolaal does,

611
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: some of what Ballall does, will be that, and I

612
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: think to that extent it more favors Rockmanov. But this

613
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: is what I mean. That fight got more interesting because

614
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: a lot of folks, including me, were like, yeah, rock

615
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: Mono is gonna run him over. And now you're like

616
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: to me kind of coin flippish, All right.

617
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,959
Speaker 2: Let's set a line. Let's bring in our degeneratet GAMBROA

618
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: long Island Luke Aussie rules, no Sita, what should be

619
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 2: what's the Long Island Luke betting line for this fight.

620
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 3: I still think Ballall should be a dog, but it's

621
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 3: gonna be close. I'm gonna say minus one fifty rock

622
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 3: mount of plus one twenty five.

623
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 1: But I think that's about right. I think that's about right. Mmm.

624
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: You like that?

625
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 2: I do kind of like that. We got to make

626
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: sure Chef Gott's okay. We got to we gotta hear

627
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: from him about the knee.

628
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, did Danny Rube get back to me? Hey,

629
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: Danny answer my text messages? Danny Rube is, uh, yeah,

630
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: there we go. I love that guy. Let's go to talk.

631
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 1: When we talk, we talk about him on the show.

632
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: He sent me a screenshot last week. People tell him,

633
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: well they should.

634
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's you know, we're like the best show in

635
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: the game. He's one of the best managers in the game.

636
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: It just makes a lot of sense. Hey, let's go

637
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: to topic number two, and that's the man in the

638
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: main event, the face of the flyweight division. I'm talking

639
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: about Alexandre Pantoja, who submitted a feisty and dangerous but

640
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 2: ultimately overmatched kai Osakura, who is making his UFC debut

641
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: in this title fight. It took place in the second

642
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: round of Saturday's main event, and if Pantosia cannot get

643
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: a fight against me. Trees Johnson next, which he asked for,

644
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: in which we will certainly talk about, uh luke, what

645
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 2: should be next and what should we be saying about

646
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: this thorough walking right into the danger and then humbling asakura. Dude,

647
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: this guy Pantosia's pound for pound man like he's he's

648
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: a real deal.

649
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: There's a question about where he goes pound for pound.

650
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's ranked highly enough. There's certainly

651
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: debate because you're asking about the level of competition, which

652
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: is perhaps the most critical component. Sure, but he's the

653
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: second best flyweight in UFC history. That's that's who he.

654
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: Is, above Henry Suda. Well, the thing he put himself

655
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: at three, behind DJ and Shudo.

656
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Certainly he's behind DJ. I mean, you're

657
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: just no matter what, DJ's number one, and we're just

658
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: gonna leave it that way. The thing about Sehuda is this,

659
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: he has done more in combat sports and more in

660
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 1: the UFC by becoming a two weight world champion. But

661
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: if we're just looking about who reigned over flyweight the

662
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: longest and the best, I think his resume has fled

663
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: lightweight resume is better than shudos with the exception of

664
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: the DJ win, but overall, in general, I think it's better.

665
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: And the DJ one was questionable, was very questionable. I mean,

666
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: it was a close fight, but it wasn't like, uh,

667
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: he got finished the first time they fought, and it

668
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: was very controversial to second, So there's that. I just

669
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: feel like what he has done of late is so special.

670
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: So so dude, this guy to bar from Teddy Atlas

671
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: is a firefighter. He sees a burning building and he

672
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: doesn't run the other way. He runs into the fire. Okay,

673
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: you don't have to make him sound like he got

674
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: hit in the head with a hammer. I mean you

675
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: don't have to do that. You're making him sound like

676
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: like like like Lenny from Mice and Men. I thought

677
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: you gonna say Lenny from the Simpsons, but maybe that

678
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: one too. He is all action, he is all courage,

679
00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: he is all excitement. He fights with absolute purpose every

680
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: second of the fight. And more importantly, I want to

681
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: make this point too, very very very at least in

682
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: key portions of the game. There's some parts where he

683
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: throws caution to the wind, but in general, very very technical.

684
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: I was gonna say getting technically better. It's title defense

685
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: by title defenses.

686
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. He had Kayasakura, who you know,

687
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: faut spirited for as long as the fight lasted.

688
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: It was dangerous a shit with those flying knees.

689
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: Let's be honest, couldn't take his back, had him at

690
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: one of these angles, like a t bone angle and

691
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: use what's called a Kesoto hook to pull him off

692
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: and run him in a direction, which got Assacura to

693
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: plant his weight and then he just attacks over the

694
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: back with that choking arm. Dude, I mean, this is

695
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: what else do you want from a champion? I know

696
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: what the answer is going to be. The answer is

697
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: going to be we want some rivalry, we want some story,

698
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: we want some bad blood. And honestly, that is a missing,

699
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: critical component. But part of the reason that it's missing

700
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: is that DJ is gone and Henry moved up and

701
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: some of the bigger names are gone. The other part

702
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: BC is because he is destroying that division by himself.

703
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: The only other fight that is available that makes sense

704
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: at this point. I know what you could say, you

705
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: can run Rouvale back. I don't know what the I

706
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: don't know how you justify that.

707
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: Two wins over Roval and three wins if you count

708
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: the exhibition against Moreno. I don't see how either guy

709
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: could get it next.

710
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: The answer is kay Car France because there's just no

711
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: one else about Abazzi just lost. You just lost, dude,

712
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: it's Kai Car France.

713
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 2: It really is.

714
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: Think about this for a second. Guys win UFC titles

715
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, I'm thinking about going up to

716
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: the next division, and you're like, you haven't beat anybody yet.

717
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: It turns out that the flyweight champion, if he beats

718
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: kay Car France, has like the best argument for going

719
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: up in weight because there's literally no one hit left

720
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: for him to fight anymore. I understand that when you

721
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: go up and wait, part of that is a celebrity

722
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: cause that the fans have to kind of rally behind

723
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: it and for it to make sense. So I'm not

724
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm not predicting it or even saying that it will happen.

725
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm simply saying his case for going up in wait

726
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: is one of the strongest among active UFC champions because

727
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: the dude has decimated this division.

728
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: If he beats Kaikar France, he would be ten and

729
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: zero against people in the top ten if that's the

730
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 2: next fight. But dude, it's he's getting better with each fight,

731
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: and it hasn't been like full domination. I mean the

732
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 2: r SEG fight came down to almost a miscalculation at

733
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: the end. And what was the first title defense that

734
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 2: was aval right, Yeah, a doubletore which was a five

735
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: round decision and a competitive but clear win. In that regard,

736
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 2: we really were questioning. We've been questioning every title defense

737
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: when Father Time was going to knock on the door

738
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 2: and say, you know, nice idea great run. Everything's going great,

739
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: but you can only take that much punishment, or you

740
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: can only stay at this level for so long. Yet

741
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: he's getting better as he's getting older. And look, if

742
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: you recall the shape he came in for this fight. Dude,

743
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: did you see the abs had like that extra line

744
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: below the pecks with the cross under. I mean, this

745
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: guy is going all all in right now, and he's

746
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: for as for as as reckless as his pressure can

747
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: look at times, he brings technique and smarts and almost

748
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: like almost like Charles Olivera in a sense, his ability

749
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 2: to navigate responsively within the chaos that he creates by

750
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 2: putting the pressure on you is the key to why

751
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: he's so great. But he also has to eat it,

752
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: wear a little bit of that. But if you noticed

753
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: anytime Osacurra hit a big strike on him, instant counter

754
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 2: one two, speedy as shit and tag guys Osacura with

755
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: a receipt instantly after each knee or after each big punch.

756
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: So it it almost began to take the you know,

757
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: the air out of the balloon of what Oscar was

758
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: trying to do. And then look when that second round happened,

759
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: and when he saw the opening and got the back,

760
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 2: I mean it was over. So I didn't think he

761
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: would be able to bring this much sustainability, especially when

762
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: you go back and rewatch the title win over moreno

763
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: where it was just pour out the heart and the

764
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: chin and the balls and the guts and just it

765
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 2: was almost like risk it all, don't care about the future.

766
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: We want this one moment to win the belt.

767
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 2: Yet Luke, now he's figured out how to be sustainable,

768
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: and now we're literally talking about is there anyone left

769
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: where you can fight? And does this DJ situation make sense?

770
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: It's worth having a conversation, we thought, except for the

771
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: fact that Demitrius Johnson was watching the live broadcast when

772
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 2: he was called out by uh by the champion here.

773
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 2: So let's see his immediate response and then it will

774
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 2: answer anything.

775
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: To the idea of business. Fight possible?

776
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 3: Did his fight? Is this fashion for some right here

777
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 3: and fight? He don't fight anymore?

778
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: He retied his.

779
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: Hear, but did this something?

780
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 10: I's talking for you, Demitri Johnson, my black as come back?

781
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 1: Why would I do that? Boys? Boys?

782
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 11: The bank count said a nice and good thirty eight

783
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,800
Speaker 11: years old Levexec Todd defences.

784
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:53,919
Speaker 3: Jam may come back.

785
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: I believe him because he's been He's built a reputation

786
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: of not being about that right.

787
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: Also, I think he just on a procedural standpoint, he

788
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: has fights left on his one deal.

789
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: So it seems like there's the Twitter rumors that there's

790
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: one fight left on there is that something that can

791
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: if you know? And Dana White was asked about it

792
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: at the pros FI press conference. He seemed to have

793
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: some level of interest. He didn't shoot it down at all.

794
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: You can you buy out that deal.

795
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: If one would allow that to be bought. I'm sure

796
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: that they could find a way to do that, but

797
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: it might not be cheap or timely, and the UFC

798
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: is cheap end.

799
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 2: And DJ doesn't seem to hurry to want it. But

800
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 2: how excited would you be if that was really if

801
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 2: Demetrius was watching live and said, yeah, let's call my people,

802
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: let's figure out how to do this, Because yes, I

803
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: get what you're saying about the contract. Reality, he retired

804
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: at one. He didn't freaking love it.

805
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I get, I totally understand DJ. I don't

806
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: in anyone ways. Sit here, I saw people are like DJs.

807
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: I saw people saying DJ is ducking Pantojo. I'm like,

808
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: if you're retired, how the fuck is it ducking? Like,

809
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: it's not You're not even eligible to be accused of ducking.

810
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: You're not competing, you're out, You're fucking done. And he

811
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like there was any inkling that this

812
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 1: fight was even available, Like they just threw it at

813
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: him and all that.

814
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't think he ever could or wants to cut

815
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: to one twenty or probably could, but he doesn't want

816
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: to have one.

817
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: I think he could do it, but that's right, I

818
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: don't think he wants to either. But listen, how would

819
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: it be as a fight due to be fucking great,

820
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: and I think Pantoja would probably be a little bit

821
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: favored just given the state of where DJ is at.

822
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: It's still good, but not at his best, and we

823
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: have to kind of countenance that. I just feel like,

824
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 1: you know, we were at a place where again Pantojo, Oh,

825
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: Brandon Moreno, the last fight was competitive. That was the

826
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: third of them and Pantojo won them all.

827
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what are we I mean, I think we

828
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: just have to have see Moreno on Pantosia again. I'm

829
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: sorry Moreno and Roy vallagain.

830
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: Yes, you could do that. I also feel like they're

831
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna have you know, they we didn't put it in

832
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: the rundown, but Dana White was sort of all a

833
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: fu sive with praise for rising. Yes, they might just

834
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 1: bring over more Japanese fighters.

835
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 2: He had a question coming up about that, Oh we

836
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: do in the d Yes.

837
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that.

838
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 3: I have a possible matchup. How about Davison Figuredo moves

839
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: back down to one twenty five. He already has a

840
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 3: win over Pantosia and he's a former champion.

841
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: If he can make the weight, sure, I don't know

842
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: if he can make the waight think about it.

843
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: He just lost in a fight that could have propelled

844
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: him to abandon weight title shot.

845
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would love to see it. I don't

846
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: know if he can make the weight, Okay, I don't.

847
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: I like that idea. I like that that's worth a

848
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: call in a conversation, right for sure? For sure that

849
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: is you can get him down to one twenty five.

850
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: But remember it's like it doesn't make sense at one

851
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: twenty six, like it really is no margin for err

852
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: on that one.

853
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, though, I had him in my

854
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: top ten pound for pound in the last couple of

855
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: fights Pantoji. I had him in the back end for

856
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: CBS Sports, But I had this lingering feeling like does

857
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: he fully belong? What about the veterans that are in

858
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 2: from ten to fifteen, the former champions, the guys that

859
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 2: are still still showing us a pound for pound level,

860
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: they're just not champions now. But I'm glad he had

861
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: this performance to show us exactly where he's at.

862
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: Exactly where he's at.

863
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 2: Is he somehow even better than he was three fights

864
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: to go? So this guy's trending upward. Let's see how

865
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: high he can get on.

866
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: Here'll be thirty five. I think in April. Brazilians are different.

867
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 1: They're different, They're different. We gotta, we gotta.

868
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: There has to be the asterisk on the on the

869
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 2: thirty five and under ruler on the city. I mean too,

870
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: Blof's skirting off age easily.

871
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: Here he yes and again for how much longer we'll

872
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: see but uh that you know, yes in firstinc stuff,

873
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: but hey shot out pantos so that's above one fifty five.

874
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: That's different.

875
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: Do you feel like though, because the talk was about

876
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: Schoffcott and Gary that once the main event happened, it

877
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: was kind.

878
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: Of like, yeah, I was doing a live stream and

879
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: then I lost like a bunch of viewers after the

880
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: comain because people were like, I don't give a fuck,

881
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: and the thing is this Kaiasa Kora. I saw some

882
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,720
Speaker 1: accusations that he kind of under delivered. I'm like, not really,

883
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: that's fight for it now that the way that it

884
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: went was one of the more plausible ways that it

885
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: could have gone. He did land intercepting strikes on Pantojia

886
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: that knee up the middle, right on the liver.

887
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: I was like, those finish that, those shots finish other people.

888
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: I'm serious under that's actually what dropped no I think

889
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: it may have hit him on the chin, but it

890
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: was one of the similar kinds of knees when Archie

891
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: Letter shot in on him, Like, dude, those are powerful shots.

892
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: It's just Pantoje fights with a certain kind of competitive

893
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: fire that is psychotic. He's yeah, he is prison shower

894
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: fight to the death. Yeah kind of intensity, man, that's

895
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: what he's got. What do you call it? Get that

896
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: guy a shive, right, he didn't need one.

897
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: Wow, All right, shout out to Pantoja. I'd be down

898
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: for KKF. Let's keep this division moving.

899
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. After that, though, I don't know what they're gonna do.

900
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: I hope he gets a chance to kind of maximizeize

901
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: whatever the peak of his star stealing could be.

902
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

903
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: He's doing the right move.

904
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: That's the right move to quality. Yeah. At one five,

905
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: Pantoja versus O'Malley. What do you think, O'Malley? But I'd

906
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: like to see it.

907
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: There's that sparring footage of them. If you remember, O'Malley

908
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 3: stops Pantojo with a body shot.

909
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: How long ago was it, that's.

910
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 3: A good question. It looks pre Shawn's UFC debut, maybe

911
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 3: early on UFC days probably a few years old at.

912
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: This points, still pretty good to I still want to

913
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: see it interesting.

914
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on over to top number three.

915
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: And it was the heavyweight rematch that offered big moves

916
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: for the winner in terms of title positioning, or so

917
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: we thought. Cyril Gong ends up getting what a lot

918
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: of people believed to be was a gift decision in

919
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: a very close three round fight. In the rematch with

920
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: Alexander Volkov. Is it fair to say that not only

921
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: has Cyril Goan failed to improve Luke, but maybe and

922
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: I think he echoed that by running out of the

923
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 2: cage and initially turning down the post fight victor interview.

924
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: Is Cyril gon regressing after getting a win that almost

925
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: nobody had it for him? I think Dani Sigura was

926
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: the only prominent media member who scored two to one

927
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: for gone Everyone else had it two to one or

928
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: three nothing for volcoff two to one Volkov. It's not

929
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 2: like a crazy robbery. It was a close fight where

930
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: neither man was truly overly effective, but Volkov got the

931
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 2: better of almost all of the striking components and seemed

932
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: to have the better takedowns and control on top, I

933
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: echoed Dana and maybe not so much in the f

934
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: and robbed you or whatever, but they gave it to

935
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 2: the wrong man. I quibble with those two, you know,

936
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: and one of them is Adelaide Bird, So we're all

937
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: we're thinking as one eighteen one ten canello every time

938
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 2: that happens. But let's talk first about gons as a

939
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: stock here on backwards Luke. I called him a donk,

940
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: and some fans didn't like that. I don't mean to

941
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: be rude to him, but he kind of dumped out

942
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: in there a little bit.

943
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: Uh okay, So here's another case where you have to

944
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: decide what the hell's happening. He put out pictures of

945
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: an X ray where he had broken his big toe,

946
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 1: and then the two next to it, So three toes

947
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: he had broken on the fame.

948
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 2: Hey, that's not nothing. And if a guy that's known

949
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 2: for movement, that's not nothing.

950
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: So I went back and I watched their first fight,

951
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: and what you notice in that one is two things.

952
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: On the gone side, he's like Robert Whitaker, bouncing up

953
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 1: and down, up and down, up and down. If your

954
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: feet are broken, or at a bare minimum, several of

955
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: your toes, including your big toe. That's obviously going to

956
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: be a lot harder to do. And if you notice

957
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: in this second fight, he wasn't bouncing much. He was

958
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: kind of stepping and sliding. Now. Also, I noticed he

959
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: threw a kick and Wolkov caught it, which he never

960
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: did in the first fight as well, and that kind

961
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: of limited what he could do. So I do think

962
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: it is worth we're gonna give Rochmanov at least a

963
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: little bit of understanding that injuries can affect how you perform.

964
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: Maybe giving Gon a little bit of that I think

965
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: is important. I also went back and I was like, okay,

966
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 1: because that was really harsh on him on Saturday. There

967
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: was the volume striking, where was anything? I was looking

968
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: at some of the takedowns, they were decent from him. Oh,

969
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: he showed improvement in a certain areas, in certain areas,

970
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: in certain areas. However, dude, I don't understand his grappling

971
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: like at all. I don't think he doesn't. I don't

972
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: he doesn't. There are two I could pick three scenario

973
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 1: and let's talk about him, because I actually think this

974
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: is pretty important.

975
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: And I'm glad you are because I get mad when

976
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: Dana White tries to reframe the John story of ducking

977
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: of not ducking Francis, and we be gone the best

978
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: heavyweight in the world.

979
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: He was not the best heavyweight in the world. Let's

980
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: be free. So there's three scenarios that I want to

981
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: talk about that really pissed me off watching. I just like,

982
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you doing? The first one is

983
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: he is caught in leg drag, then moves to side

984
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: control and Volkov has a crossface like rule number one.

985
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: If someone has a good now, if they're just holding

986
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: it there's nothing going on, then it's different. But there's

987
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 1: actually a little bit of force to it. You have

988
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: to clear the cross face before you can do anything

989
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: because the crossface is designed to drive their shoulder down

990
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: and immobilize you. How can you effectively scramble if part

991
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: of your spine is immobilized Rule number one. Clear it.

992
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: He tries to fight off of the bottom without ever

993
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: clearing it, and it's like, dude, I don't know how

994
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: explain it to people. It's like trying to show up

995
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 1: to put out a fire and you just forgot the water. Like,

996
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: you can't even get this fucking process started until you

997
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 1: have something like that. That was one. I really hated

998
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: that one. The second one that drove me up the

999
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: wall was when he was underneath in half guard. Do

1000
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: you remember this? In the third round he over commits positionally,

1001
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: stops scrambling, and then has this camora underneath, and I

1002
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: think it may be why he won the fight. I

1003
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: have to go back and check some of the judges' scorecards.

1004
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: Can you look up the judge of scorecards for that fight,

1005
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: the Gone Volkov two fight. I want to see how

1006
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: they scored the third round. If anybody scored the third

1007
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 1: round for Gone, I really think they got that one wrong.

1008
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 2: I know Adelaide scored one and two for Gone and

1009
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 2: the third for Volkov.

1010
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a little bit more understandable, but that third

1011
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: round him sitting underneath the way he was the if

1012
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: you've never rolled that komora grip is very powerful. You

1013
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: cannot just rip your arm out of it, especial against

1014
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: heavyweight guys. They're just too strong. There is a point

1015
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: where he's holding on to it and he doesn't advance

1016
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: in any of the ways that you need to because

1017
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: he's completely on bottom, out of ideas and does not

1018
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: know what the fuck to do and just get stuck there.

1019
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: The whole time. I didn't mind the guillotine, remember the

1020
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: end of round one. I didn't mind it because it

1021
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: was close to the end of the round. But the

1022
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: one that drives me up the fucking wall is he

1023
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: standing over gone and he's got a leg and he

1024
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 1: chooses to go from a standing position to a sitting

1025
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,319
Speaker 1: position nuts nuts to go for a shitty ass heel

1026
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 1: hook that is nowhere close. Of course, he gives it

1027
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: up and now they're both back to standing. You want

1028
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: me to take seriously, your foot is broken, Why are

1029
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: you giving up top contry? Not it wasn't on top

1030
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: of them, but why are you giving up a standing

1031
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: position to sit? B See, I cannot overstate this to you.

1032
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: My first month of training I started to do that,

1033
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: and I just I can see where I was in

1034
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: my time in my life when I had instructors being like,

1035
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: don't you dare sit on your ass to go for

1036
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: a either heel hook or Achille's lock. Pass his fucking guard.

1037
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: Pass his fucking guard, dude. Even if I want to

1038
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: give him a mulligan for the standing and maybe there

1039
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: is something to be said for that, his let me

1040
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: just say it outright. His decision making and somewhat his

1041
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: ability in the grappling department is terrible, terrible, terrible, not fit,

1042
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: not fit for the top of this division or any

1043
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: other division. Unbelievably poor.

1044
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: Here's what's crazy is while he was having all that

1045
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 2: success initially before he got out wrestled by a one

1046
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 2: legged man against Ghanu, I used to ask that question

1047
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: every time of can he win a fight if he's

1048
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 2: not controlling all of the terms with his A game,

1049
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,479
Speaker 2: and it's the answer is no. I mean, the answer

1050
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: is no in terms of an elite fight at this

1051
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: point right for the most part, and dude, he was.

1052
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: There were no combinations.

1053
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: Volkov was controlling distance with almost ease at times.

1054
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it wasn't like Volkov was

1055
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 1: perfect in this fight, did volco?

1056
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you the question that I asked

1057
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: you coming in now that we're coming out of it.

1058
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 1: Is Volkov the worst.

1059
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: Of the elite title contending heavyweights or the best of

1060
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 2: that decided second tier?

1061
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: I think he is. He should have been the worst of.

1062
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 2: The title Like, he's getting pretty close. If that was

1063
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: a win, he's getting pretty close to a title shot.

1064
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: So the other part there is Volkov is undeniably not

1065
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: like we should give you credit because you've been high

1066
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: on the Volkov renaissance. She also said he would he.

1067
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: Would, he would have wrestling in long periods.

1068
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: On top of Gone, No, no chance. He is much improved.

1069
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: And you could point to a couple things. Again, going

1070
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: back to the first fight, walking Gone down in this

1071
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: one made a huge difference. Gone can't Gone, can't bounce

1072
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: and go if he's constantly on the back foot. That

1073
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: was a big one BC. On top of that, his

1074
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 1: defense has gotten a little bit better. His awareness of

1075
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: how Gone would evade and then intercepting him as he

1076
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: ducked or ran. His striking variety too, striking variety. His

1077
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:49,280
Speaker 1: timing was much better. He understood much better the assignment

1078
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: about how to keep Gone from being able to get

1079
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 1: his offensive rhythm going. So we're sitting here backing on Gone,

1080
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: which is well deserved, especially in the grappling component, but

1081
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: we also have to be fair. He was up again.

1082
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: It's a much different Volkov. But this is the point.

1083
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: Why wasn't Volkov up against a much different Gone? Why

1084
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: has Gone, at least in the grappling department. Has he

1085
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: added other skills, Yes, he has added other skills. He

1086
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: has not improved his decision making or foundational level of

1087
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: knowledge almost at all, or certainly not even close to enough.

1088
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 1: John Jones's wins are over the grappling of Cyril Gone

1089
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: and the ghost of Steve Amyoji, and people are like,

1090
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: he can do what he wants, fight fucking Tom aspinall

1091
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 1: because that ship doesn't count for anything.

1092
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 3: Oh, I scorecards.

1093
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: If anybody give gone the third round?

1094
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 3: Now all three judges gave Thank god.

1095
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: Okay, I was so worried about that? Or did you

1096
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 1: have it long Island?

1097
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: I had a two to one. I was glad I

1098
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: didn't bet on Volkov because I think he should have won,

1099
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 3: and I would have been very pissed.

1100
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 2: Okay, it does it come up like when Dana comes out,

1101
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: races him down or not, you know, just walks over

1102
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 2: and grabs Volkoff and was like, I thought, you gotta

1103
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: fin screwed on the cards. Does that mean he'll get

1104
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: a favorable matchup next and they'll treat it as a winner,

1105
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 2: Just treat it as a no contest and move forward.

1106
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: They'll probably do him something of a solid but They're

1107
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: not going to give him a gimme. I mean, there

1108
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: are gimmes in that division, but I don't think he

1109
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,400
Speaker 1: even wants that. He's trying to ascend. Yes, So it's like,

1110
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 1: will he get a fight that is a premium heavyweight quality, Yes,

1111
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: but it's probably gonna be a tough one. It might

1112
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: be Blades night mane something like that. You know. Interesting.

1113
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 2: Let's hear from Volkoff, who was upset about the way

1114
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: this fight was scored, although he could be just as

1115
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 2: upset about his own hair choices and.

1116
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: Worst corn rows I've ever seen.

1117
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 8: My respect to Cyril gun he he he wasn't like

1118
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 8: a guy who just woke out from the gauge after

1119
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 8: the decision because he didn't feel this too. So nothing

1120
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,479
Speaker 8: bad to my point, and just I just don said

1121
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 8: it was a commission.

1122
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: I again like this.

1123
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 7: He was in here and he said that he injured

1124
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 7: his toe after the first kick of the fight and

1125
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 7: that affected his performance. Did you feel that he was

1126
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 7: hurt and was changing or did you just think he

1127
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 7: wasn't able to keep you off him with your wrestling

1128
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 7: and your ability.

1129
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 8: I was feeling he was absolutely broken. Like mentally he

1130
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 8: was like and the fact he broke his finger is

1131
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 8: a damage that I give to him. So it's there

1132
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 8: one more fact that I get this fight. How can

1133
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 8: the guy who was less active and come with a

1134
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 8: more damage like took from the fight convince the fight like,

1135
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 8: I don't, I don't know the senses.

1136
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: Did he make a good point there? He caused the

1137
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: damage ultimately, so why are we talking about it?

1138
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: Hard to say. I mean, like if you break your

1139
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: toes on someone someone's body when you're striking. I mean, yes,

1140
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: they did it, but they didn't do it like with

1141
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: great intention. They just did it by being there, partly

1142
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: by being you know, who knows how they blocked it

1143
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: really hard to say. It's a little bit. It's a

1144
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: little bit taking credit for something that is hard to say.

1145
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: It's hard. Zones would love to fight him.

1146
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: Maybe a perfect title defense for John Jones because of

1147
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: the speed disadvantage.

1148
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he likes to wrestle guys who are that's

1149
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: not their you know, primary base.

1150
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: Does he ever get there? Do you think Volkoff ever

1151
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 2: gets to the title show?

1152
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: He might? He might, I mean, depending how things go.

1153
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 1: It's not like the problem is if aspinall ends up

1154
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: either beating John or just becoming the champion outright, depending

1155
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: how this goes. It's like, dude, Aspinall, if you did

1156
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: you ever go back and watch Aspects.

1157
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 2: I was ready for Volkoff to make the leap in

1158
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: that fight. I didn't know as was that great, and I.

1159
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: Was just like, what just happened?

1160
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 6: And it was.

1161
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: It's like a uniquely bad matchup because Aspinall is so

1162
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: fast and so athletic. It's made them look cless on

1163
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: the ground. It's kryptonite for a guy like Volkoff. But

1164
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, you just can't walk away from this fight

1165
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: being like, oh, that's the same volkof God looks shittier.

1166
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: God looks shittier or at a bare minimum static in

1167
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: key portions, that is a much better volcan.

1168
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: I mean, the post fight interview was about Gone revealing

1169
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 2: that he doesn't have the answers to the questions against him.

1170
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 2: He doesn't understand why that performance came out the way

1171
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: he did. I'm not saying he's not trying and not

1172
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 2: training hard, but there's a same thing I said, the

1173
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: mojo it seems to be gone. You know that the

1174
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: way that he used to carry himself, and there's a

1175
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: disconnection between the game he's trying to accomplish and maybe

1176
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: the understanding of it or the time put in.

1177
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know enough about what

1178
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: happens at MMA Factory to declare that, you know, breaking

1179
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: ties is the most important thing. But I do think

1180
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: it's probably safe to say he needs to get wrestling

1181
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: training outside of MMA Factory, and he needs to get

1182
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: a lot of training more generally beyond MMA Factory if

1183
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: he wants to stay with him in a you know,

1184
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: and instilled some important capacities and to you know, ray

1185
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: Longo doesn't train all his guys but then whole corner them.

1186
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: I think that's fine. He desperately needs some supplemental training.

1187
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: But again, it's like, you're thirty four, how are you?

1188
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: How are you still making grappling decisions?

1189
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 2: This bad well is the answer, because he literally went

1190
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 2: from the first day of MMA training to fighting in

1191
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: the UFC within something like.

1192
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: Twelve or thirteen months probably, I mean that kind of probably,

1193
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,760
Speaker 1: And guys just didn't know how to beat him yet,

1194
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: and Volkov had a much better idea about how to

1195
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: beat him and got pretty goddamn far with it.

1196
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 2: Good performance, good ass performance, But who would you think

1197
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: anyone specifically should be next or will be next for either.

1198
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: Or Also, he couldn't finish the von fluchoke. I was

1199
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 1: just like, oh my fucking god, Bro, you lock up

1200
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: the van Flu when you don't even really try and

1201
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: push it. It's like, I mean, what do you do?

1202
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: Gon goes back to the spevac the Tabua level. Yeah,

1203
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,279
Speaker 2: even though we got to win here.

1204
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, dude, he needs work. Yeah, can he beat

1205
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: them doing his A game? To your point, yeah, he

1206
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: can beat some of these guys, but then that falls

1207
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: apart against the A level guys and then he has

1208
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: to bring out the BEE and then the B is

1209
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 1: just I mean it's an F. Yeah, that's be honest.

1210
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: He goes from A to F. That's really there's really

1211
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: no in between.

1212
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to topic number four, and it

1213
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: was who else on the UFC three ten performed well, Luke,

1214
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 2: what's the biggest storylined? Bull Low, the heavyweight fight and

1215
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 2: the two title fights atop the.

1216
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say how bad Chrome Gracie looked, but I

1217
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 1: would like to focus on the winners instead, if that's okay,

1218
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: And dude, there's a lot of directions you can go,

1219
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: but we have to go with arguably the best fight

1220
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 1: on the card, Mosar if Loy versus al Jamaine Sterling.

1221
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: What a fun ass fight, what a contrast in grappling styles,

1222
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: competitive the whole way through. But mos Are is tough

1223
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: at one forty five. His strength on top is incredible,

1224
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: his balance, his understanding of how positions are about to move,

1225
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: and getting there before even Sterling could get there. I

1226
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 1: thought Sterling made a great account of himself. He absolutely

1227
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: threatened mos Are in ways that we really haven't seen him,

1228
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: not even Diego Lopez could do. But Mozar is that dude.

1229
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: He is so talented, so strong and in just sugar

1230
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: in any form he looked, I mean diiced to the

1231
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: socks that guy is. I thought it was really really impressive.

1232
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: And don't you agree, Well, Luke, that was a fun

1233
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: ass fight, was it not?

1234
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally backfired in the UFC's face, being like, this

1235
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:05,760
Speaker 3: is a boring ass fight. Let Aurian on the prelims.

1236
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 3: It turned out to be one of the best fights.

1237
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: Al Jamayn gave I thought everything he possibly could. I

1238
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: thought Mosar was pushed in ways he wasn't before. I

1239
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: don't it was intriguing.

1240
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: It wasn't thrilling. It was intriguing.

1241
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, No, it wasn't like the edge of your seat,

1242
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: but it was. You could see the chess. You could

1243
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: see that. I mean, these guys were getting after it.

1244
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: They weren't stalling by any show.

1245
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: But that style is going to hold Mosar back from

1246
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 2: getting extra opportunities. And he said it afterwards ready more

1247
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 2: or less said I'll fight. It doesn't matter if they

1248
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: line up one hundred guys to get to the title shot,

1249
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: I'll beat them all.

1250
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: It might have to be that way.

1251
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: It might have to be that way, is what I'm

1252
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 2: saying in this division.

1253
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: Whether exciting guy at the top that they I mean,

1254
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: do I want to see Taporia versus ev looy? Sure? Sure,

1255
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: But if you've got options with Taporia, especially if Islam

1256
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: is one of them, you're gonna have to wait a

1257
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: little bit. That's true.

1258
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,319
Speaker 2: I mean al Jo deserves a shot at that at

1259
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: that decision. I remember I wasn't scoring it, like officially,

1260
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: but loosely, I'm like that me two one, al Joe.

1261
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: Crazy to show?

1262
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 2: You got to show me which to Let's go to

1263
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: the man from Long Island.

1264
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: Am I crazy?

1265
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 3: I mean I was a little biased, but I had

1266
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 3: Aljoe with the spread, so I liked that a lot.

1267
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 3: I don't think there's a case for him to win it,

1268
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: but he looked competitive.

1269
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: I'll say that he did. He did, But how how

1270
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: far are you from just selling your car to feed this?

1271
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: I'm very lucrative, Luke. We do well on main card minute.

1272
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying I'm not saying I don't know

1273
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: what you're doing, but I know a lot of people

1274
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: have known what they're doing. You know, I had to

1275
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: explain to their wife why they they drained their savings.

1276
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: You know, well, I told you that the Volkoff resurgence

1277
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 2: was upon us, and despite the loss, maybe I was right.

1278
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: I told you bet On doohu CHOI. Now he didn't ultimately, No,

1279
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 2: he did ultimately get the stoppage that we were looking

1280
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: for here against a largely ineffective Nate Land where who

1281
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: took the l like a man and put out a

1282
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 2: video afterwards where he just just owned it. But for

1283
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: being away from the sport and now back to back

1284
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 2: good performances here coming off the bill, al Jao, when

1285
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: you said coming in that you know we're not like

1286
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 2: booking this guy for a path to the title. He's

1287
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 2: a fun you know, TV fighter to some degree, but

1288
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:09,959
Speaker 2: he surprised you with the he looked.

1289
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: You know, here's the thing, the biggest difference. Striking looks smooth,

1290
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: which we'd seen before, but he looked smoother. Yeah, tight,

1291
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: but he cared about defense. He'd pop into range and

1292
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: pop out of range that was never there before. That

1293
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: was never there before. And how about he hit one

1294
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: of the throws he hit to get land weird to

1295
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 1: the ground. It is called a sasai. You block the

1296
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: outside foot and you turn him. He hit that, which

1297
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: was crisp, but those are hard to do. It's like

1298
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: it's a real difficult move to hit. And then you know,

1299
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: finishing from mounted crucifix, it was like, dude, it wasn't

1300
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 1: just a good performance, it was a complete performance. I'm

1301
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: wondering if there is a run for this guy. Thirty

1302
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: three years old, missed four years of his prime hed

1303
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: he missed like twenty eight to thirty two, Like no,

1304
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: and he took some damage in those took a shit.

1305
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: Years helped, Yeah, four years probably helped, But nevertheless, I

1306
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: don't think so.

1307
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 2: I love having Koreen Zombie in his corner and seeing

1308
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 2: that mentor ship. Although you wouldn't think defense would come

1309
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 2: from coach Green zom.

1310
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: He's got a defensive coach. But like you got to

1311
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: feel good about where he is now. Yes, you gotta

1312
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: feel good like you can. I mean, how many great

1313
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: matchups can you make with Choi? A gazillion, yes, a gazillion.

1314
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: Also in that featherweight division, it was a dunk Donkerson

1315
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 2: performance to some degree from Crohne Gracie and even Dana

1316
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 2: got sick of people, you know, setting him up to

1317
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: dunk on him afterwards, and he was pretty salty in

1318
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: that post fight press conference. But Ryce Mitchell did what

1319
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: he's supposed to do, but he got a lot of it.

1320
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: Seemed like he got a lot of positive feelings coming

1321
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: out of here. Back on the win track. It was

1322
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 2: two losses in three fights, but like devastating ones when

1323
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: you consider what Taporia did to him and then one

1324
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 2: of the most brutal one punch knockout losses to Josh Emmett,

1325
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: I guess it was good to see him back. Whether

1326
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 2: you agree with his seatbelt or flat earth theories, does

1327
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: this propel him forward to an interesting fight moving is

1328
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: just still kind of stuck in the middle of pack.

1329
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, he's only thirty years old. Thirty years old.

1330
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: He's very good, he is, I think respect we kind

1331
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: of we know him as like the ground specialist, the

1332
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: guy got the twister, but he's pretty well rounded Bryce. Actually,

1333
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: I feel like he's got you know, can he go

1334
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: on a run to the title just with his hands?

1335
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 9: No?

1336
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: Probably not that, But could he beat really good guy?

1337
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 1: Did he beat Dan Egay just before the fight with

1338
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Josh Emmett, So like he's beaten quality guys out of here.

1339
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: That's no small achievement. That was a close fight though,

1340
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of thought it was a little controversial.

1341
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: But you see what I'm saying, Like, yeah, the traditional

1342
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: markers of quality.

1343
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: Dude.

1344
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: His two losses are Josh Emmitt and Eliot's to Portia.

1345
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, and he's thirty years old, maybe pumped the

1346
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: brakes on. Granted, granted the stoppage lost at to Poria

1347
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: was really bad, and the one to Emmett was a

1348
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: nuclear meltdown bad or bad Okay, But and they gave

1349
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: him a bit of a soft landing here. Sure, I'm

1350
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: thirty years old. I think he'd be very foolish too.

1351
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: And he shouted out JC in the post That's the

1352
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: only man that I.

1353
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 1: Think JC got shouted out by literally every single winner

1354
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: on that card, right, Yeah, I was. I was down

1355
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: with that.

1356
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: I also want to shout out throw a shout out

1357
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 2: to Michael Kisa for not only the win, considering how

1358
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: kind of inactive he is in this portion of his

1359
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: career in the.

1360
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: Dominant submission, but he shouted.

1361
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 2: Out Derek Thompson, the UF employee that I s work

1362
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 2: with the ESPN back in the day. Who you knew

1363
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: him who passed away?

1364
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1365
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I worked with him for a long time at

1366
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,959
Speaker 2: ESPN and loved him and seen him through the years.

1367
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 2: So you know, that brought a tear to my eye

1368
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: to see that that shout out and to do that

1369
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 2: in the post fight interview.

1370
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: I love that.

1371
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 2: But that was the good. There is some bad coming

1372
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 2: out of there, and the idea that Anthony Smith with

1373
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: the performance there against Dominic Reyis and maybe Chris Widman too,

1374
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: maybe even Clay Guida all three, is it time to go.

1375
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: It's time to go. It's time to go. Lake Guida

1376
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 1: has had a nice long run. I don't know how

1377
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: much he's adding to his quality of life when fighting

1378
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: is over. He didn't get like super beat up, but

1379
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: I just don't. You're risking bad injury continuing to fight

1380
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: out there when you made your UFC debut in two

1381
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: thousand and six.

1382
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 2: I mean, it's incredible longevity. Like I do give those guys,

1383
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 2: the Jim Miller guys. To give those guys credit for sure.

1384
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: Hundred percent. I give him credit. Chris Wyman, we said

1385
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: it before. The fight needs to retire. It's just so low.

1386
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: I mean, the amount of damage he's doing to himself. Yes,

1387
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: to me, is really just kind of heartbreaking. At this point,

1388
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: I would really wish he would stop. And then do

1389
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 1: we have the clip of Dominic Reyes Anthony Smith, who

1390
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: we've had a you know, I've had a good relationship

1391
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: with for a long time and you know you more

1392
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: recently as well. Great guy. He should not have fought

1393
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: on Saturday. Was heartbreaking to watch. Let's play this clip.

1394
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 6: Anthony's a true warrior and he's gonna he's gonna fight

1395
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 6: to the end, and he wanted to fight to the end.

1396
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 6: He needed to feel something tonight, whatever he's going through.

1397
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 6: But he kept moving right the ref said, come on, Anthony,

1398
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 6: and he would move, so he gave him a little

1399
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 6: bit more more more leeway. So when I went in

1400
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 6: the cage, I haven't been around Anthony much in my

1401
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,800
Speaker 6: life for the record, but when I went in the

1402
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 6: cage with him, he was emotional, right, And that's a

1403
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 6: dangerous man that has he said it. You know, he's

1404
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 6: fighting for his friend, right, and he doesn't care about

1405
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 6: the outcome. He just wants to feel something. A point

1406
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 6: in the first round when he put his hands down

1407
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 6: and just like punch me in the face, and I oblige, right,

1408
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 6: So that's my job. My job is to finish you

1409
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 6: and get you out of there. Whether you're going through

1410
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 6: something or not. You're gonna give me free shots or not,

1411
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 6: I'm gonna hit you. And that's what we're professional fighters.

1412
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 6: This isn't It's a very dangerous game, you know. And

1413
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 6: God bless Anthony, you know, all the best to him,

1414
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 6: you know, prayers for him and his team and his teammate.

1415
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 6: He lost family. Losing someone's never easy. I've lost some

1416
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 6: really close people to me this year as well, and

1417
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 6: it's terrible. I'm glad he got to come out and

1418
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 6: be the Wawrier that he is. This is his outlet, right, So,

1419
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 6: like Cormier said, it's my job to not care and

1420
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,160
Speaker 6: my job is to win. My job is to go

1421
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 6: out there and give my best performance.

1422
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: And that's all I was.

1423
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 2: It was hard to watch the whole thing, right, you

1424
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm glad Anthony tried to honor

1425
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 2: his friend and coach in that.

1426
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Way and can get hurt doing that. Absolutely.

1427
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: And look, we'd already sort of thrown around in question

1428
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 2: like should this be it for Anthea Smith? He does

1429
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 2: seem to have a really good burgeoning podcast you know,

1430
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: TV anchor, TV analyst career going. But this is twenty

1431
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 2: first pro loss too, Like, this guy's been fighting, this

1432
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: guy's got sixty something pro fights.

1433
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 1: Right, this guy has been a survivor in this game.

1434
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 1: He rescued his career. He mean, this guy was fighting

1435
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: at victory fighting, oh yeah, in the middle of nowhere

1436
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: for a time and then really kind of turned himself

1437
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: into a John Jones title content.

1438
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: As an iron will as a refusal to quit, right.

1439
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: I mean we saw he kind of a kind of

1440
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: had an emotional breakdown in there.

1441
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,080
Speaker 1: It was tough to see.

1442
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: So for Reus it's a second straight stoppage win. It

1443
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 2: continues his sort of comeback story at thirty four's there's

1444
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: still some life for him to make a little bit

1445
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: of a run here in this division that's not that deep, right,

1446
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 2: a lot of aging warriors. I was happy to see

1447
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:45,959
Speaker 2: for domint least in that regard.

1448
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree.

1449
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 2: I don't know how much value you put in the win,

1450
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 2: but it was you know.

1451
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: He did his job. Sure good to see him get

1452
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: his hand raised because I'm sure he worked hard to

1453
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 1: do it, and that alone, I think is a process

1454
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: you want to honor. All Right, Anthony Smith should retire.

1455
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: We can almost talk about every fight in this card

1456
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 2: because there was a lot of things that we're talking about.

1457
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: Chase Hooper at twenty five at lightweight. Now Rogan was

1458
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 2: making it seem like this guy's almost ready to fight

1459
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: for the title, like they were playing up. And he

1460
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 2: has made a nice turnaround for how remedial his striking

1461
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: was in the beginning, and he's improving every aspect of

1462
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: his game. But are you looking at him as somebody

1463
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 2: who's put it together in time to really start stacking

1464
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 2: wins and making noise here?

1465
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how to answer that. I'm not going

1466
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: to say yes or no. I just feel this way.

1467
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: He's what twenty five years old. His jiu jitsu skills

1468
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: are fantastic. I think one thing we also have just

1469
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: really need to notice is how much more bulk he has.

1470
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: He's really filled out in his frame. To me, Clock

1471
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: starts now like everything that came before this. I'm not

1472
01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: saying it's irrelevant, that's not my point, but like you're

1473
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: asking bigger questions about how far can he go, we

1474
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: can't even start evaluating that until right about now.

1475
01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not doing those looping helicopter punches, and

1476
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 2: there's some sharp shots.

1477
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: There's much sharper everything as much crisper as putting together.

1478
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: But like Clock has just begun about what we can

1479
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: use as footage to be like, oh, this is something

1480
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 1: that we can figure out what he's gonna look like

1481
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: at twenty eight, twenty nine, thirty. It starts now, And

1482
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: so for that reason, you gotta love the improvement. You

1483
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: gotta love how less how much less damage he takes.

1484
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: But he was fighting a claig Wita who needs to

1485
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: retire at the same time, So that's no fault to

1486
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 1: Chase Super. Chase Super look good. I want to be clear,

1487
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: he looked very good. But how far can you go?

1488
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna fight.

1489
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: We do have a clip about a potential next fight

1490
01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 2: for Chase Super. Let's sef this interest you.

1491
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: You said you want an intriguing matchup next.

1492
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 6: I saw a couple of people online after your win

1493
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 6: suggest Jim Miller, what would you think about that?

1494
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't see why not Jim's Honestly, I

1495
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 11: felt kind of the same way about Clay. It's like

1496
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,479
Speaker 11: he's he's an older guy for sure, but he's still

1497
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 11: doing the damn thing. Like he's still in here going

1498
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 11: against these young guys and he's still doing well, Like

1499
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,439
Speaker 11: Jim's still out, he's still subbing guys like and that'd

1500
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 11: be a good fight, like if it wasn't on such

1501
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 11: a stack card like this. I felt like me and

1502
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 11: Clay could have main card on a lot of events.

1503
01:06:54,320 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 11: But yeah, I mean, I think I'd be a fun

1504
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 11: one and why.

1505
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: Not love it and sounded like him, but could fight

1506
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:01,920
Speaker 2: like him.

1507
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: I'd talk shit at everybody. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I

1508
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 1: just get a guy to follow me on camera and

1509
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: then just put people's reactions on YouTube and make money.

1510
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: All right, you got to shout it. Also, Vicente Luke

1511
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 2: against Garimbo. He went in there and did the deep

1512
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: rock ride to the bathroom and came back and it

1513
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 2: was all over.

1514
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: He dropped him with the right hand, locks up the

1515
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: Anaconda gator roll finish. He is fucking nasty dude, Vicente Luke.

1516
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 1: Remember he was he had a brain bleed situation. Yes,

1517
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: I thought his career was over and he's still out

1518
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 1: there dropping people and then subbing him with his techniques.

1519
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:33,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just happy it wasn't Nick Diez.

1520
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm really happy. Yeah, that was probably good that they

1521
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,480
Speaker 1: did not do that, all right.

1522
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: Brian Battle gets a win in the catchweight fight caused

1523
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: by himself missing weight by more than four pounds, which

1524
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 2: seemed still unexplainable when he was asked about it by

1525
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,479
Speaker 2: Rogan and the cage afterwards, and he was still doing

1526
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: the heel thing and calling the crowd on. It went

1527
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 2: over Randy Brown, who was streaking and moving on. I mean,

1528
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't do a lot for us. It wasn't that

1529
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: great of a fight. It wasn't that great of a performance.

1530
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: But I feel like every part of his stock seemed

1531
01:07:58,160 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 2: to go down even though he comes away with the wind.

1532
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 1: I thought Randy should have won, and Brian Battle missed weight,

1533
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: and then he did the heel thing on top of it.

1534
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess the heel thing. It doesn't really

1535
01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: matter because in the end, you know, you're just trying

1536
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: to get a reaction in this game. It doesn't matter

1537
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 1: if it's negative or positive. But it was not confidence inspiring. Yeah,

1538
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: am I missing something that it was not confidence inspiring?

1539
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: And when Eric Anders beats up on Widman, they're like,

1540
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 2: that's the best win of Eric Anders's career.

1541
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 1: It's like and then Eric gets on the mic and

1542
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I'm not even looking for championship fives.

1543
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for fun ones, which, by the way,

1544
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: fair fleet. But like, no, no, no, I don't I actually

1545
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: prefer that.

1546
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 2: I actually am glad he's like I felt it was

1547
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,680
Speaker 2: an insult to him to say that's his best win

1548
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 2: against like that version of Widman.

1549
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,599
Speaker 1: Like, come on, is that Eric and his best win?

1550
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: It's a great question. I mean, it might be.

1551
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: Didn't have that talk me into into saying the head

1552
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 2: kick one should be.

1553
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: So he's got the No, he's got Jamie Pickett, he's

1554
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: got this, Chris Widman one, Kyle Daukas has got one.

1555
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,599
Speaker 1: Darreon Stewart, the dentist, Gerald Mierstartz a pretty good one,

1556
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: split decision one. He's got there.

1557
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 2: Just in this circumstance, it was just it was just.

1558
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: Alway's got a win over Brendan Allen in LFA. That's

1559
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 1: his best way to go. There you go.

1560
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: And also Luke josh Van against Cody Dernton. That fight

1561
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 2: was he and he looked awesome.

1562
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 1: Yo, did you not long out Luke? How good did

1563
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: josh Van look? Because I know he got that. He

1564
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: got fucked up one time playing too loose with it.

1565
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: He looked much better this time. He looked great.

1566
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 3: That fight was awesome. If anyone didn't see that, definitely

1567
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 3: go back and watch.

1568
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: That for sure. I love that. I love that reaction.

1569
01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: All right.

1570
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 2: We also have Dana who was very salty in the

1571
01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 2: post fight presser asked about Connor McGregor.

1572
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this for just a second. Yeah,

1573
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:31,639
Speaker 1: before we moved here.

1574
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,679
Speaker 12: That's the thing about Connor McGregor came down. Any reaction

1575
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 12: that you have since the conviction in the civil court

1576
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 12: and the penalties he faced.

1577
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: What do you mean, what's my reaction?

1578
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 12: Do you have any comment about what his him?

1579
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 2: I had a comment, I would have put it out already.

1580
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 12: What about his status with the UFC?

1581
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: Any is there?

1582
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: He hasn't been fighting here and I don't know how long, but.

1583
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 12: There's been you know, you've not some at three zero three,

1584
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 12: there's been talking he's gonna fight, right, I mean does

1585
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 12: that impact him in any way?

1586
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: Or well, if he does fight, it'll be sometime next year. Yeah,

1587
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: so we learned nothing.

1588
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:02,759
Speaker 2: But hey, I only was pushing.

1589
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: I always was the only one who did it. I mean,

1590
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: here's why this comment to me is so insane. It's like,

1591
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: what do you mean my what's my reaction? It's like,

1592
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: it's like, Dana is in charge essentially of a publicly

1593
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: traded company. What the fuck do you think we're looking

1594
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: for a reaction for, because this is a literally public facing,

1595
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:28,280
Speaker 1: publicly owned property for which Dana White is ostensibly, for

1596
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 1: lack of a better description, it's it's manager. Why would

1597
01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: we want to know where you stuck? Do you think

1598
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: sexual assault is bad?

1599
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: He's the most famous fighter in the sports history. Of course,

1600
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: We're gonna ask every time anything happensult.

1601
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: Like, it's a relevant question, what is your company's stance

1602
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: on any number of things? And the answer is this,

1603
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 1: b See, the answer is the very bare minimum that

1604
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: capitalist forces will uh do in a worst case scenario.

1605
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:02,479
Speaker 1: Let me give you an example, Jerry Sandusky Vince McMahon

1606
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 1: with this terrible lawsuit. In other words, the only way

1607
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: that anything will ever happen to any bad actor is

1608
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 1: if the capitalist forces essentially quit on them in a

1609
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 1: worst case scenario. And I know what folks might say,

1610
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: because I know there are folks who think, oh, well

1611
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,920
Speaker 1: McGregor's innocent. What on to that thought for just a second,

1612
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,560
Speaker 1: Let's say you believe that. Let's say you believe he

1613
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: actually didn't do this whatever the court says. You don't

1614
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 1: believe it. You must understand that a policy where you're

1615
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: punting to the basement level capitalist forces to be involved,

1616
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 1: gives leeway to any other bad actor that you may

1617
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 1: or may not like to do almost not anything, A

1618
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:47,839
Speaker 1: ton of unethical shit. That is what that policy enables.

1619
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 1: And the last thing I'm gonna say on this is

1620
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: if this is the game that they want to play,

1621
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: where we just we the UFC wants the public to

1622
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 1: say that they don't have a relationship that the UFC

1623
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 1: does to a fighter's misdeeds. That's what they're dealing with.

1624
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: Oh, the famous you know how much Connor paid and

1625
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: legal fees, that's all the punnis.

1626
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:08,320
Speaker 1: But also like, hey, whatever's happening in their private life,

1627
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,280
Speaker 1: they're independent contractors. That's for them to deal with. Yeah,

1628
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,919
Speaker 1: if that's the game that they want to play, okay,

1629
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:16,360
Speaker 1: But then you don't get to tell us about all

1630
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 1: of their community work that they do. You don't get

1631
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 1: to tell us about how laudable they are as fathers

1632
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: or mothers. You don't get to tell us how great

1633
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: they are.

1634
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 2: I feel like you're speaking directly the Netflix documentary people

1635
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 2: that handle the Connor doc.

1636
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 1: It's just here's the thing. If you want to tell

1637
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: us that you don't take responsibility in any way or

1638
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:37,080
Speaker 1: have any relationship to any misdeed that any of the

1639
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,840
Speaker 1: fighters have, you don't get to parade how laudable they

1640
01:12:40,840 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 1: are on the other side and then ask us to

1641
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: accept that because you also now have no relationship to

1642
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: that either.

1643
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was the thing that set

1644
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 2: Dane off, but did you see the rest of when

1645
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:54,040
Speaker 2: people were asking him about from Gracie's poor performance, They're

1646
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: asking him if Smith and Wideman should retire, And finally

1647
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 2: he got to the point where he snapped on the

1648
01:12:58,400 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 2: medium and was like, oh, you guys have his negative

1649
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 2: quest I should say, no, one wants to talk about

1650
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: the positive. But it's also like the way that is

1651
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: set up, that's the only time people really get to

1652
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 2: talk to him.

1653
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: Right, you know, So it's you understand. So I want

1654
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: to sort of correct something I had said. Someone asked

1655
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 1: me on Twitter. They were asking about the pre fight

1656
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: press conference, and nobody asked Connor about anything, or nobody

1657
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: asked anything about Connor. And someone asked me on Twitter.

1658
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: They were like, Hey, do you think that the UFC

1659
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 1: told people not to ask? And let me just say

1660
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 1: what my I don't know what your experience is. Let

1661
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: me tell you what my experience is. Granted I don't

1662
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: go to shows hardly at all anymore. But in all

1663
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 1: the time that I ever did go to shows, no

1664
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: one from UFC has ever even bothered to ask me

1665
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: something like that. When there was other forms of controversy

1666
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's never happened. So I found it kind

1667
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 1: of strange. But then Stephen Morocco found an example from

1668
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen when staff did ask media around the Greg

1669
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 1: Hardy situation to keep it just focused on the fights

1670
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: at that time. So I don't know if they did

1671
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: that at the pre fight press conference, but there at

1672
01:13:56,840 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: least is some precedent for it. Sure, it's just nothing

1673
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 1: I've ever personally experienced.

1674
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's move it on to topic number five,

1675
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 2: and that is what is going to be going down

1676
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: at UFC three twelve, Sydney, Australia.

1677
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: What is the date on that March, I'll look it

1678
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 1: up here, give me a second.

1679
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 2: Sean Strickland is going to get the rematch in the

1680
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: main event, not Hamzat Chimayev against Strikis Duplessi, and in

1681
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 2: the co main event fired Oh Jean way Lee will

1682
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 2: finally make the return eleven months after her fight in

1683
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: at UFC three hundred and April, and Tachiano Suarez, who

1684
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,920
Speaker 2: has not fought since late twenty twenty three, has been

1685
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 2: in and out of eligibility in terms of her health

1686
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 2: and the lineup. We're finally going to get that. But

1687
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: first and foremost on the main event, Luke. First of all,

1688
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: these are two. In my opinion, very good fights. I'm

1689
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 2: excited about it. Let's go UFC three twelve. But is

1690
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: that the right opponent Considering Sean Strickland is fresh off

1691
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 2: of a split decision when over Polo Costa and Hamzat

1692
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 2: Chimayev just ran through Robert Whitaker.

1693
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: Let me first say I actually I know no one

1694
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 1: is ever allowed to be surprised on the inner anymore.

1695
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 1: I was surprised a little bit by this not crazy,

1696
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: but supplies the way.

1697
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 2: The way they released it, which was like between fights

1698
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 2: on the UFC broadcast when they showed Suarez in the

1699
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: crowd and then they put underneath that she's gonna be

1700
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 2: fighting way Lee and then they come back and they're like, oh, yeah,

1701
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: breaking news DP versus Strickling two.

1702
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I suppose that too. I suppose that too. But

1703
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: I thought, after what Hamzad did to Whittaker, and given

1704
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 1: that it's a fresh matchup and all the trash talk

1705
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: and everything else, I you know, maybe there were visa

1706
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: issues related to getting into Australia. Who the fuck knows.

1707
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 1: You can never really tell this to me the answer, right,

1708
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: It might be because I his, here's what we know.

1709
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 1: You know this as well as I do. Historically speaking,

1710
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: sitting on a title shot and waiting almost never pays off.

1711
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 1: They just don't like that. They like guys who stay active. Now, granted,

1712
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,880
Speaker 1: Sean had done them a number of favors and taking

1713
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of fights, so maybe they felt like they

1714
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: owed him one on the other end, but like, if

1715
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: you're just looking, he had the fight with DDP, which

1716
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: was close. I thought DDP did it in real time,

1717
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: and then afterwards I thought Sean won. He gets the

1718
01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: rebound against Paulo Costa, which is not much of a rebound.

1719
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't a great fight. And then he gets back

1720
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 1: here and you're like, dude, hamzat, Okay, he's got his problems.

1721
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 1: But then he goes in there against Whittaker and absolutely obliterate.

1722
01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean real he rearranged Whittaker's face and you thought,

1723
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: I thought that was that. That's going to be it.

1724
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: This is the guy. So if if it's not because

1725
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: of either calendar planning or where this guy can get

1726
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: into based on his real world allegions, is.

1727
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: Do you have a health step back that we don't

1728
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 2: know about it?

1729
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 13: No?

1730
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: I wonder if the CADIROV stuff extends far beyond the

1731
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 1: United States.

1732
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 2: In terms of being They don't want to say that publicly, right.

1733
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 1: Right, because they're trying to get once again, the only

1734
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 1: the only civilizing force in the industry is what basement

1735
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: level capitalism will do for you. That's it, that's all.

1736
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:51,400
Speaker 2: Is this the topic that got Data pissed off at

1737
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: the post fight press coffs because he was also salty

1738
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 2: about when people were like, why.

1739
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:54,839
Speaker 1: Is it not Jamaiah.

1740
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 3: He got pissed off at jose Young's about asking about

1741
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: Crome Gracie's performance, and then this he got heated too.

1742
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: And it was the kind of thing where it's like,

1743
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 3: I think you're onto something where it's Hamzak can't get

1744
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,040
Speaker 3: into Australia or something. Because Dana normally would be like,

1745
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,679
Speaker 3: Strickland's the guy. What do you mean Hamzad doesn't desert

1746
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: you know, he'd heat up the guy. Instead, he was like,

1747
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 3: of course we tried to make this with Hamza like

1748
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 3: pissed off about it.

1749
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: I'll just say this, I don't feel super strongly about

1750
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: it for two reasons. One, Strickland's got a case that

1751
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 1: he won the first fight. It was a very close fight, Yes,

1752
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: he's got a case that he won the first fight,

1753
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 1: and I think also the second fight could be somewhat

1754
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: I won't say meaningfully different, but different enough for DDP

1755
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: to be kind of an interesting Jess battle. I am surprised.

1756
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: Correct me if I'm wrong Long Island Luke. Does Australia

1757
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: have different rules about speech about what can be criminalized

1758
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 1: and what can't be, because I do recall the first

1759
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 1: time Sean Strickland went down there, there were a lot

1760
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:50,599
Speaker 1: of folks, including the in the Australian government, who were

1761
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 1: really upset with some of the stuff he had said.

1762
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,120
Speaker 1: And I'm not here to like parse it just as

1763
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: like a risk that you run if you're bringing that

1764
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: guy back to the same area. Yeah, is there anything

1765
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: to that?

1766
01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 3: I'm honestly not the person to ask.

1767
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: I have no idea. Ask your father.

1768
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,680
Speaker 2: All right, all right, well you know, well, look it's

1769
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,480
Speaker 2: going to be a great fight. But I can sympathize

1770
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 2: with with Dana's tone if they did try, and they

1771
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 2: couldn't right now because with Chamaiav's inconsistencies with his health

1772
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: and his schedule. If you get the window, you got

1773
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 2: to make the fight. Because he's Championship. Ready, the dude's

1774
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,040
Speaker 2: ready to jump through our screen.

1775
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: Edp versus TREMAIAV would have been sick right now. Yes,

1776
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: but I do like.

1777
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: This fight, but I love the Colemane. Dude, are you

1778
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 2: getting moved on? That same thing with Suarez. It's like,

1779
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 2: you don't know how when the calendar is going to

1780
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 2: arrive where she's healthy at the right time. The right

1781
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 2: time is now, then.

1782
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: So correct me if I'm wrong. She was supposed to

1783
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: fight Verna Jenji Roba, yes, and that fight fell through,

1784
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 1: and there was another fight she was supposed to have

1785
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: and it.

1786
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,559
Speaker 2: Was a weird thing where she where someone on Twitter

1787
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 2: said she was hurt and she was like, where'd you

1788
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 2: get that room? Or that's not true? And then the

1789
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: next day of the UFC an.

1790
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, And then that fight fell through and you're like, okay,

1791
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 1: well she's still trying to build back as a contender,

1792
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: and then she she just gets the fight. So yes,

1793
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: she was supposed to fight Verre and a Genji Robot

1794
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 1: as well as she was scheduled to fight Amanda Lamosh

1795
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 1: and then she had to withdraw and then was replaced

1796
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: by Mackenzie Dernt. So she said the Lamos fight, as

1797
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: well as the gen Robo fight, where we were supposed

1798
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: to get a better look at exactly where she was.

1799
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, though, you might think, well,

1800
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: god's fucking cold in here. Hold shit, it's so fucking golden.

1801
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: Ere Ken wants to see our nipples. I think, can

1802
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: do you want to see our nipples? The only thing

1803
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: that stands out to me about this is here's my

1804
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 1: reading on it. They've been trying to move her up,

1805
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,639
Speaker 1: trying to move her up, trying to move her up.

1806
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 1: They're like, you know what, fuck it, just put her

1807
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: to the front of the line. The clock's ticking. If

1808
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: we don't give her a title shot now, her health

1809
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 1: might fail us before she even gets a shot.

1810
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,839
Speaker 2: Three years old, but undefeated and dominant.

1811
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: So they just said, fuck it, forget the other contenders.

1812
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:52,880
Speaker 1: Just get to the front of the queue, and to

1813
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 1: your point, BC has a fight. I like it. I

1814
01:19:56,200 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 1: love it. I like it. I love it.

1815
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 2: Look that my beloved one fifteen division not as deep

1816
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: as it used to be.

1817
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,320
Speaker 1: But this is the best matchup you can make. Roseanne here,

1818
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: that's the best matchup you can make.

1819
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 2: So let's let's see it. I do think we have

1820
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 2: a Strickland video we can throw to here about his comments,

1821
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 2: caud you see that tweet first from Hamza that showed

1822
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 2: a picture of himself, He wrote at Strickland it was

1823
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: a picture of himself with a with a large assault

1824
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 2: rifle in his hands. Yes, and then Strickland says, I

1825
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 2: love how cumshot. We'll try to talk shit to me, bro,

1826
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: You're not a man character level, fucking dog shit crypto scams.

1827
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 2: Hoard yourself out to Cadira for cars, fled to the

1828
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 2: Middle East when the pimp and got too strong. Stay

1829
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: in your lane, Swedish man.

1830
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 1: All right.

1831
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: So Strickland already planting the seeds if he can get

1832
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 2: the title from DDP and if we don't need an

1833
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 2: immedia trilogy.

1834
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 1: By the way, he went on to say other things. Also,

1835
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,679
Speaker 1: the three way trash talk between DDP, TRAMAIAV and Sewn

1836
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: Strickland's also pretty good. Yes, Because then DDP got on

1837
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 1: Twitter and was like, the first one they called the robbery,

1838
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,200
Speaker 1: the second one they're going to call attempted murder. I

1839
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit.

1840
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 2: Dude, this middleweight division's fund right now at the top level.

1841
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 1: Very very very funny. Well, that was the thing. That's

1842
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 1: why you kind of thought Hamza was going to introduce

1843
01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,880
Speaker 1: some electricity into it and like you know, shake up

1844
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: the established order or things. And then they went back

1845
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: to the well with the fight they had before. I

1846
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: didn't love the first fight. I didn't hate the first fight.

1847
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: I thought it was somewhat intriguing.

1848
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 2: It was a technical thriller.

1849
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: Thriller's doing a lot of heavy lifting there. Technical, yes,

1850
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: and I think a totally fine fight. I don't have

1851
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:23,719
Speaker 1: I'm not, Oh, it was terrible. No, it was absolutely

1852
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 1: not terrible. That's totally not the case. But it wasn't

1853
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: like dude, I mean, Sean has a way of making

1854
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: every fight trench warfare. Yes, that's a tough thing. Yeah,

1855
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: he just defines it. Maybe he loses the trench warfare battle,

1856
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: but it's still trench warfare. I don't know.

1857
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: All right, In just a few minutes, Macy Barbara will

1858
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 2: join the program. But those are our five topics, and

1859
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 2: before we welcome our special guest and UFC.

1860
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: Women's flyweight contender.

1861
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 2: We have your questions every Sunday night at Morning Combat

1862
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: on X on the Instagram. You can chime in and

1863
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 2: we'll address them. But they better be good in your name.

1864
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: Your handle better not be like at Inmate four five

1865
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: six eight.

1866
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: At Booty Eater sixty nine from Donks.

1867
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: All right, let's see what Rick Rickerson's we have here.

1868
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 2: The first one is from is Underscore. He will ballall

1869
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 2: Muhammad's pace, cardio and wrestling be too much for shot

1870
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: Cut to handle over five rounds.

1871
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: That's a direct question. Look, I think it absolutely can be.

1872
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: I think put it back out.

1873
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: But you're hoping that this man was mcled. You were

1874
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,040
Speaker 2: hoping that we get that the next time we see him,

1875
01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 2: it's full power, full strength chafka.

1876
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's this is what I mean. If he's

1877
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: got injuries, I'm not I'm not interested in seeing him

1878
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: compete again. If he's gonna again, he didn't say it,

1879
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:43,919
Speaker 1: but if it's going to leak out later, it's like, oh,

1880
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 1: you know, he had his fucking ball sack amputated a well,

1881
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, three bag, three needles to the bag. Brian

1882
01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: Campbell still shows up and does the show.

1883
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, like took my manhood but

1884
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 2: not my soul.

1885
01:22:57,000 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to point out I'm not interested in

1886
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,880
Speaker 1: seeing you know, Hey, this is sixty percent shot got yeah,

1887
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: you can get the fuck out of here, like none

1888
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 1: of them are ever one hundred percent. Give me ninety

1889
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,200
Speaker 1: percent or give me nothing.

1890
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,839
Speaker 2: How about that give me liberty or give me freedom

1891
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,040
Speaker 2: and death and something like that.

1892
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:12,360
Speaker 1: Also, Danny Rube and answer your text messages.

1893
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 14: Uh.

1894
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:18,639
Speaker 2: This second one's from at Mike prin nishin nineteen ninety five.

1895
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: Do you think that the UFC should pull back on

1896
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:26,840
Speaker 2: the five round comains? They feel pretty underwhelming and often unnecessary.

1897
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:29,879
Speaker 2: This feels like a minority opinion, right.

1898
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't agree with it at all. I thought I

1899
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 1: love five round co main events.

1900
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: Well, look, I wonder if there's a compromise to be

1901
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: made here. If a fight is involving two highly ranked guys,

1902
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 2: and especially if they have yet to fight five rounds

1903
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,400
Speaker 2: in their career, then a five round non title, highly

1904
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 2: contending fight is perfect because we find out who's ready

1905
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 2: and who's not for the title level. But what if

1906
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 2: it is a a co main event that doesn't demand that.

1907
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: Should we automatically put it on there or should it

1908
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 2: only be for the exact type of fights like we

1909
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 2: saw a Shavkav versus Gary.

1910
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 1: If you have two guys or two ladies in your

1911
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 1: comaine event and they're not fighting for something approximating number

1912
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: one contender, and you wanted to go three rounds. I

1913
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 1: don't hate like not fight night Comaine shouldn't be five rounds,

1914
01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 1: depending depending I mean, no ch UFC. The first one

1915
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,799
Speaker 1: was a fight night, So I don't have a problem

1916
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: with the comin and something like that being for five rounds,

1917
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 1: but just to do it, to do it, I don't

1918
01:24:26,439 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: know what the point of that would be. Yeah, but

1919
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: this one clearly needed to be five rounds. Rockmanov and

1920
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: Gary would have been a travesty at three. Yeah. And

1921
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:37,760
Speaker 1: by the way, think about how much you learned more

1922
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: in the fourth than the fifth. I mean, Rockmanov would

1923
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: have won either way because he was up to one

1924
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:43,600
Speaker 1: I think after three, right, That's how I had it

1925
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: two to one, So he would have won either way.

1926
01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: But look what you learned in the fourth about Rockmanov.

1927
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: Look what you learned in the fifth about Gary. Like,

1928
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm very glad.

1929
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:52,479
Speaker 2: That they want to seeking is if you've got a

1930
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 2: loaded fifteen fight card on a big pay per view

1931
01:24:54,840 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 2: and you've got you know, three title fights are two

1932
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:59,439
Speaker 2: title fights and a five rounder, because sometimes it happens

1933
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 2: on the really the big juice up cards.

1934
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 1: Dude, you're gonna go super late into the night.

1935
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 2: I mean that main event didn't start to one am

1936
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Eastern anyway on Saturday night. For all the the shit

1937
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: that Dana gives boxing for having bad pacing, and they

1938
01:25:11,680 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 2: do that Boxing has terribly bad pacing. These UFC ones,

1939
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 2: do they need.

1940
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 1: To be that late? You can, you can get rid

1941
01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:21,759
Speaker 1: of a few power slap ads and you can tighten

1942
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: that up a little bit. I think, what do you do?

1943
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 1: Start earlier promote less fights? What's the deal here? Again?

1944
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:29,439
Speaker 1: I live through the very very very very very brief

1945
01:25:29,479 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: era when they moved the pay per views back to

1946
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 1: nine pm. They claim to not like the results that

1947
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 1: they got.

1948
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 2: I love.

1949
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 1: I don't know what the metrics are. I have no

1950
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: way of knowing, but I fucking love. I'm old as shit.

1951
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to number three. This is from at It's

1952
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 2: not cage fighting, then, what is it?

1953
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:42,839
Speaker 1: Okay?

1954
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:46,960
Speaker 2: Which three risin fighters would you most like to see

1955
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 2: in the UFC next? Now, who's this Adam weight that

1956
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,360
Speaker 2: somebody asked Dane about, Who's like the best in the world.

1957
01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: And Dana agreed in the post by pressure that.

1958
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: This person could did not hear it, and this person

1959
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 2: tweeted at a bunch today to support that.

1960
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Oh this person printhing.

1961
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 2: Yeah that they said, that's the type of person you

1962
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 2: would build like the division around if they did start

1963
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 2: that long. Look, you don't know anything about this person,

1964
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: right ren hero Moto, Yeah, that's it. Do you know

1965
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:11,799
Speaker 2: much about this gentleman?

1966
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 1: I would be pretending if I did, is this is

1967
01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: men's This is men's Okay? Do you think there should

1968
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,000
Speaker 1: be women's animely? I do? I do actually believe instead

1969
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:23,760
Speaker 1: of one, that's where all the talent is. That's when

1970
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 1: Victor has an ADAM weight championship, Like absolutely, that's where

1971
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: they That's where all the dude we've we've known from

1972
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 1: MMA in Japan in the early two thousands that that

1973
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,599
Speaker 1: was the case. I know you disrespect Magoomi Fuji, but.

1974
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 2: Did you see that clip from the UFC Wayne Show

1975
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 2: where Loris Senko read out her accomplishments in dan Helly

1976
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,720
Speaker 2: admitted that he doesn't know anything about her either.

1977
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Shota dan Helly, who's a DC sports legend,

1978
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:47,800
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and bespirch the name

1979
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 1: of a guy who who gave me a lot of

1980
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 1: great great knights on NBC four along.

1981
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 2: With I didn't follow Lindsay's Arnie from Sports Center.

1982
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,599
Speaker 1: Lindsay's Arnie I got her start on the exact same

1983
01:26:58,680 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 1: channel as Dan Helly.

1984
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So, Luke, is there are there any

1985
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 2: other Rise and Fighters that you would like the UFC?

1986
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: Because do you agree with what people are saying that

1987
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,679
Speaker 2: because the UFC actually broadcast Rise in highlights and because

1988
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 2: they hauled Osacre on the screen former Rise and Champion,

1989
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 2: do you think this is a pipeline that sak Karaba

1990
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 2: and Dana, who have been close.

1991
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 1: Are opening. I hope. I think it's good for Rising,

1992
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: by the way, to get any kind of talent sharing

1993
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 1: if that's the way they can go. I don't know

1994
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: what Dana's going to do in that regard, because he

1995
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 1: was really he really resented how talent sharing with Pride

1996
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: went and sending Chuck over there and not getting vander

1997
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Lay was really a thorn in his side. But we're

1998
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: in a different era and I feel like, dude, promoters

1999
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:43,639
Speaker 1: working together is what MMA needs more of, not less.

2000
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 1: So any version are you.

2001
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 2: Talking about Turkey being the middleman between Don Davis and

2002
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 2: Dana White to make John versus for him.

2003
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: Well, there's things that you know, I mean, unless Jesus

2004
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: can come back and turn water into wine, there's a

2005
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 1: limit on what we can do in the natural world.

2006
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2007
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: That's interesting, I do, I do.

2008
01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 1: There is a lot of talent Rison, would you agree

2009
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: with that? Yes, of a certain kind of weight class range,

2010
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: but yes, yes, of course interesting. You're not going to

2011
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: find your next best middleweight there, but you'll definitely find

2012
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 1: some guys at one hundred and thirty five pounds or

2013
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,560
Speaker 1: give it, you know, around that We're going to be

2014
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 1: real good. Let's go to number four.

2015
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 2: This is from at Jimmy Underscore read over under five

2016
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: and a half on the number of current champions who

2017
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 2: will hold on to their belts at this time.

2018
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 1: Let's go through it next year. But he he's talking

2019
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: about the UFC. Yes, so let's go through it ready now.

2020
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 1: Part of this, like John Jones could end up winning

2021
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 1: against aspenof they make the fight, but then retiring anyway,

2022
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know how that would qualify. But let's

2023
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: go through here. Very good, Pantoja.

2024
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: I mean I would have said no coming into this fight,

2025
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 2: and now I'm like.

2026
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna say yes. Although he's gonna be thirty

2027
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: five in April, so or right around zillions built differently

2028
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,600
Speaker 1: asterisk okay, morob fuck no, no, I don't think so

2029
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: yeah sorry morob Ilia unless he moves up and no,

2030
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 1: but at forty five yeah yeah, yeah, okay Islam.

2031
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for him to just shock us after a

2032
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 2: win by saying thank you had a great run here,

2033
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 2: and now I need to let usmanner Magametov come over here.

2034
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 1: I'm going up to middle of weight right now, I'm

2035
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,000
Speaker 1: gonna say we. I'm gonna say he stays champed. You

2036
01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:17,120
Speaker 1: say he stays champed, all right? No mean neither trickis

2037
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 1: That's the interesting one.

2038
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: Right now, I'll say yes.

2039
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: Right now I say yes, I'm gonna say no.

2040
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,320
Speaker 2: So I'm adding in the factor that Chimaiav is inconsistent

2041
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 2: in terms of showing up.

2042
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 1: Where are you at?

2043
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes because like you, he's gonna beat

2044
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,519
Speaker 3: Strickland and then maybe he doesn't get another title till

2045
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 3: next year.

2046
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,560
Speaker 1: Hold right, if he beats Strickland, do you think he

2047
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 1: beats Tremaiev.

2048
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,000
Speaker 3: I didn't say that, but like we said, with Tamaiav's health, oh,

2049
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 3: several issues, you know, they might not Pooton.

2050
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: Now that's not before you say, oh yeah, it would

2051
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:51,040
Speaker 1: be pooton On. Caliv is a donk, but he can

2052
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,600
Speaker 1: win that fight. I think, well he can win it.

2053
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: I think Poeton will still be the champion, all right,

2054
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,040
Speaker 1: same and then the end of the one about Jones

2055
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 1: is the interesting one. I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna

2056
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,120
Speaker 1: say aspinall.

2057
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:01,560
Speaker 2: I'll agree with you.

2058
01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 1: So where are we over and under it? I think, oh,

2059
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 1: how about the it was five and a half. I

2060
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: think we found five.

2061
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: I mean there is a there's a lot of turnover

2062
01:30:09,560 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 2: in this era.

2063
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: John Wiley, I don't think we'll be championed by the

2064
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 1: end of the year. Valentina Chefchenko, I don't think we'll

2065
01:30:14,720 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: be championed by the end of the year. And then

2066
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:19,320
Speaker 1: Pania it's a harder one to say, and O Kayla

2067
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,679
Speaker 1: probably beats her, that's right, So you definitely you definitely

2068
01:30:22,680 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: get some significant turnover.

2069
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Interesting stuff. Our final dms from the Digities will come

2070
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,320
Speaker 2: to us from at von Beck cal and this person says,

2071
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: if you could get one gift from Dana this Christmas. Look,

2072
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 2: if you could fall in on those sixteen days of

2073
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: Christmas that Dana White is doing for the UFC fans.

2074
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,080
Speaker 1: What would it be? And why? One Christmas gift from

2075
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: Dana White? What would it be?

2076
01:30:45,720 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 2: An ELK boy's bag. I mean, I wouldn't turn down

2077
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,120
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty k in a paper bag.

2078
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:54,920
Speaker 1: Un I take two to fifty K one gift from Dana. Okay,

2079
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 1: I hate the framing of the question because it turns

2080
01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 1: them into this avuncular figure that I don't think is

2081
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 1: inappropriate framing. But if we're gonna go with the game,

2082
01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 1: this one's easy for me. John Jones, Tom Aspital, Don Jones,

2083
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 1: Tom Aspinal doesn't have to be in the UK all

2084
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 1: that crazy ass shit. No, you can make it in

2085
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 1: New York, you can make it Vegas. Just make it

2086
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 1: anywhere around this area. Title Unification pay per view main event,

2087
01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:21,519
Speaker 1: and I will I will be happy in twenty twenty five.

2088
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,639
Speaker 1: That's the guest. I don't think they can make that happen.

2089
01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:26,599
Speaker 1: I'm still just over fifty confident that it happened. That's

2090
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 1: pretty pretty confident.

2091
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 2: I would want to take the money, the resources and

2092
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:33,719
Speaker 2: the time that they put into Power Slap, which seems

2093
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 2: to still be aggressive, and throw it all into boxing

2094
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 2: and take your swing. And I think they might, you know,

2095
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:40,800
Speaker 2: when you hear Dana talk and the rumors of a

2096
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 2: Turkey partnership, a lot of things. Whatever it's gonna be,

2097
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: take your swing. We've been hearing about this for years.

2098
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 1: I want to see what he can do. I want

2099
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: to see what role he can play. Let's go take

2100
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 1: your swing, go all in. Here's my hope instead of

2101
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: doing power Slap, take all the money that they use

2102
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: for that and put it towards a better cause by

2103
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 1: setting it on fire. Is really want to just that's fair.

2104
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 1: Just live streams like you know this, this power Slap

2105
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:08,080
Speaker 1: event cost four hundred grand. Just create a YouTube channel

2106
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: where you take four hundred grand and you set it

2107
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 1: on fire as a way to like truly entertain us

2108
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: and make valuable use of that much more valuable use

2109
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 1: anyway of that of that time.

2110
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:19,040
Speaker 2: Well those were the d ms from Donks. Thank you

2111
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 2: for playing slide back in next week. Okay, for next

2112
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,400
Speaker 2: Monday's episode, Luke, we have a couple more minutes before

2113
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,320
Speaker 2: our guest joins, Yep, before we get into that, she

2114
01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 2: app I mean if I if I urinated right now,

2115
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:33,560
Speaker 2: would you be very mad at me?

2116
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: Now you're saying urinate on your pants? No, just like

2117
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, run to the no ship. Can I tell

2118
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: you that I don't know who it was in the office,

2119
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 1: So I went into the U. I didn't use this restaurant,

2120
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: used the one in the back. You know, yeah, you

2121
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 1: have to punch the code in.

2122
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:47,840
Speaker 2: Which fifty percent of the time, no one's taking a

2123
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:48,240
Speaker 2: dump here.

2124
01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: So two things happened to me, and they were both

2125
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,639
Speaker 1: you know, I needed a trigger warning that you saw

2126
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: George Michael and no, no, but one guy in the

2127
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: forestall I didn't see who it was. He was making

2128
01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:05,120
Speaker 1: noises with his anus that sounded like the t Rex

2129
01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 1: roaring in Jurassic Park.

2130
01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,320
Speaker 2: Now, and the deer's looking at you. Do you think

2131
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 2: he's it was not the deer goes like this, that

2132
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 2: was not a deer.

2133
01:33:14,280 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 1: And then a guy while while I'm hearing velociraptors scream

2134
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 1: in the corner, there was a gentleman who stood next

2135
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: to me who unzipped his pants and did this number.

2136
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:26,560
Speaker 1: Now he's just like wait, wait, no, no, I'm in

2137
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: the stand up stall.

2138
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 2: The number six and nine put together number you got

2139
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Speaker 2: for me.

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01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm in the stand up stall. The guy gets next

2141
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 1: to me and he does this number. He unzips his

2142
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: pants and goes ah and then audibly fart. Oh.

2143
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,639
Speaker 2: So I'm like, that is but that's like an eighties

2144
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,599
Speaker 2: old guy move to just walk in and be like oh,

2145
01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 2: like finally we're away from the window.

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01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: We got the velociraptor in the corner, and then we've

2147
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: got an old man at the gym audibly farting next

2148
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: to me at the urinal. I needed I needed to

2149
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 1: get out of there as soon.

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01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,200
Speaker 2: As you should have just tripled deck did Joseph a

2151
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:56,920
Speaker 2: Beg style and just been like you want a war,

2152
01:33:57,000 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 2: I'll give you a war.

2153
01:33:57,800 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Or I should have done with what Randy Quaid did

2154
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: in in the bowling movie What was the bowling movie? Kingpin? Kingpin?

2155
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,680
Speaker 1: Where he just took a dump in the Europe.

2156
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 2: Okay, that's disgusting. Hey, on that note, why don't we

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Speaker 2: welcome our fantastic guests this week? One of the top

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01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,400
Speaker 2: women's flyweight contenders in the UFC.

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01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 1: What what the future?

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Speaker 2: The future is now just twenty six the future is now.

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01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:21,799
Speaker 2: Let's bring in Macy Barber on the program. Macy, welcome,

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01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 2: Good morning Combat. Great to see you. We are itching

2163
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: to see you back in action. How's everything going?

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01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 15: I know I can't wait.

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Speaker 13: Well, first of all, you guys introed me on like

2166
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,519
Speaker 13: the most random conversation that I got to walk in.

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01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:37,280
Speaker 15: I was like, what are they talk about?

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01:34:37,640 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: We don't We didn't mean it personally. The guy that

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01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: I blame on, the producer, he was like, just just

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01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,040
Speaker 1: talk about anything for five minutes. So I talked about anything.

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01:34:45,439 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 15: Oh boy, this is definitely anything. I was like, what

2172
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:49,880
Speaker 15: are they introing? Wow?

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01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 13: Good?

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01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 15: Okay, but yeah, no, I'm excited to be back.

2175
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 2: Let's talk about your status. We thought you were coming

2176
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,400
Speaker 2: back into a lot in July over the summer and

2177
01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 2: you had a setback. How is everything going with your

2178
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 2: health and when could we see you back in there?

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01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:09,759
Speaker 15: Everything is going great now. It has been a long journey.

2180
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 15: I was so bummed when I was well.

2181
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,559
Speaker 13: First of all, I was so excited to fight Rose

2182
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,680
Speaker 13: because not only was I fighting Rose, but I was

2183
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 13: also fighting in Denver where I made my UFC debut.

2184
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 13: So for me, it was my first main event It

2185
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:27,600
Speaker 13: was a very huge opportunity for me, and I was

2186
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 13: so excited, and then I was so devastated when I

2187
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 13: was told, hey, look, you're not gonna You're not gonna

2188
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 13: fight on this card and you're obviously you know, the

2189
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:40,600
Speaker 13: health is more important. So I was very devastated. But

2190
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 13: I have made a lot of progress coming forward and

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01:35:44,840 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 13: I can't wait.

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01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,479
Speaker 1: To be back. This is great.

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01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,360
Speaker 2: Do you have a plan set in mind a time frame?

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01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:56,280
Speaker 13: Yeah. Actually, I was just messaging with Mick and Hunt

2195
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 13: Hunter called me as well, I'm hope for April, honestly.

2196
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 13: I mean, I know it's still is a little ways out,

2197
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 13: but it for me like that's that's the timeline that

2198
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 13: I was given. And so originally I thought I was

2199
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 13: gonna be until July August of next year, but it's

2200
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:14,400
Speaker 13: looking like more like April.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, we can't wait to see you back.

2202
01:36:17,439 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 2: You're a big player in a division that suddenly Macy

2203
01:36:20,960 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 2: has a ton going on for it, big names. I

2204
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,400
Speaker 2: feel like three, four or five women could be champion

2205
01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 2: right now in terms of the how stacked it is

2206
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 2: at the top.

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01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,720
Speaker 1: How would you assess this.

2208
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 2: One hundred and twenty five pound division as.

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Speaker 1: We speak right now.

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01:36:35,000 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 13: Yeah, the division has had a lot of changes, obviously.

2211
01:36:41,160 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 13: It's it's one of those where I am so frustrated

2212
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 13: with like wanting to be there, Like I want to

2213
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 13: be there so bad because I know that to be honest,

2214
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 13: like I feel like I'm the best contender for being

2215
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 13: the champion, you know, and I can't wait to get

2216
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,200
Speaker 13: that shot and to have the title shot because I

2217
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 13: feel like we've seen how Aaron has matched up against

2218
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 13: you know, the top, top opponents, and I don't think

2219
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 13: that she's gonna be up there, you know. I mean

2220
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 13: she's obviously she's a great fighter, but she's not champion worthy.

2221
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 13: Uh Man is a great fighter as well, However, I

2222
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 13: don't think she has the champion capabilities as well. And

2223
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:22,360
Speaker 13: then you know, we have the top we have Alexa

2224
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 13: Grosso who was uh got her rematch, and then I

2225
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 13: feel like I just want to be there, you know,

2226
01:37:33,080 --> 01:37:35,080
Speaker 13: Like I know for me, like I have the most

2227
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 13: exciting fights, I have what it takes to be there,

2228
01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 13: and I just want to get back there so I

2229
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:39,880
Speaker 13: can have that belt.

2230
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: All right. I want to go through some of these

2231
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,519
Speaker 1: individual pieces if I may. First things first, you were

2232
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,600
Speaker 1: supposed to fight Rose on the July card. Obviously it

2233
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,519
Speaker 1: didn't work out. We'll hope to see you back in April.

2234
01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: How did you think Rose looked more recently?

2235
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 13: To be honest, when she thought Aaron, I thought that

2236
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:58,679
Speaker 13: that that was a boring fight. But I also thought

2237
01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 13: that Rose won that fight. I thought that Rose won

2238
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,880
Speaker 13: three of five rounds, and the judges obviously gave it

2239
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 13: to Aaron, but I thought that that was not fair

2240
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,760
Speaker 13: to Rose because I did think that Rose had done

2241
01:38:11,240 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 13: everything she needed to do to win that fight. So

2242
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 13: for me, I mean, I don't think that she looks

2243
01:38:16,000 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 13: as good as she has looked in the past. You know,

2244
01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 13: she used to be a really dominant champion. She used

2245
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 13: to be a phenomenal She still is a phenomenal fighter,

2246
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 13: but it's different now, you know. And you can see

2247
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,759
Speaker 13: that she's changed ever since. She's been with different coaches,

2248
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 13: and there's just been a lot that's happened in her life,

2249
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:34,679
Speaker 13: and I mean, she's getting older. So I just don't

2250
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 13: think she's the same fighter that she used to be. However,

2251
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:41,479
Speaker 13: I do believe that she'd beat Aaron, and that's that's

2252
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 13: what was tough to watch.

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01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 1: Let me follow up on that, because I get asked

2254
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,519
Speaker 1: this question all the time, and folks are like, well,

2255
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 1: she is bouncing or she has changed anyway. Bouncing is

2256
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:52,160
Speaker 1: not quite a fair way to put it, but changing

2257
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 1: some of her coaching. When you're a fighter and you're

2258
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,360
Speaker 1: looking at another fighter who has changed their coaching and

2259
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: you could say, ah, this is why they fight differently,

2260
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 1: what would you point to specifically in the case of

2261
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:08,799
Speaker 1: Rose that would lead you to believe that the coaching

2262
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: change itself is playing a big role in how she's fighting.

2263
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: I mean, it really.

2264
01:39:15,400 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 13: Depends because there's fighters like myself who have bounced around

2265
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,720
Speaker 13: a lot. You know, I've been known as someone who

2266
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:23,160
Speaker 13: goes from Jim to Jim and coach to coach like

2267
01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:25,439
Speaker 13: I and that's something that a lot of people have

2268
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 13: talked about with me. However, like with Rose, I mean,

2269
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 13: she didn't do that before. Like she had Trevor Women

2270
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 13: as her coach for the longest time, and I think

2271
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 13: that that played a huge advantage in her career.

2272
01:39:36,840 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 15: You know, Trevor is a phenomenal coach.

2273
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,559
Speaker 13: And from what I picked up, you know, she should

2274
01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:46,960
Speaker 13: have stayed with Trevor, and now that she's not with him,

2275
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:51,080
Speaker 13: whatever the circumstances are like, however that came about, She's

2276
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,080
Speaker 13: never been the same ever since.

2277
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about the top of that division for

2278
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 1: a second. I would love to get your perspective. This

2279
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 1: blew my mind. No ja UFC. Valentina Chevchenko defeats Alexa

2280
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:10,799
Speaker 1: Grosso and over the course of their rivalry, Grosso's wrestling

2281
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:14,840
Speaker 1: somehow got worse. How is that possible? How did how

2282
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: did it regress to the point where Chevchenko was just

2283
01:40:18,360 --> 01:40:20,560
Speaker 1: able to use that as like the sole means of

2284
01:40:20,600 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 1: winning in a five round contest?

2285
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 15: I mean, did Grosso's wrestling get worse?

2286
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:27,200
Speaker 1: Died it?

2287
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 13: Valentina's get that much better? You know, Like it's it's

2288
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:33,200
Speaker 13: a tough thing to answer because I don't I mean again,

2289
01:40:33,280 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 13: I don't know. You know, you don't know what happens

2290
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 13: in other people's camps. You don't know whether injuries play apart.

2291
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,280
Speaker 13: There's a huge thing to be said for I mean,

2292
01:40:39,320 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 13: everyone talks about it mentality in a fight, and the

2293
01:40:42,560 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 13: whole fight game is a is a mind game. So

2294
01:40:46,320 --> 01:40:48,400
Speaker 13: you don't know what has gone on. You know, whether

2295
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 13: she might have been training in it, it would have

2296
01:40:51,400 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 13: you know, maybe she didn't have a lot of success

2297
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 13: in her wrestling in terms of training, and she didn't

2298
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:57,760
Speaker 13: have as much confidence in it going into the fight.

2299
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 13: Maybe maybe Valentine did just you know, get that much

2300
01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,680
Speaker 13: sharper in her wrestling. And there's a lot to be

2301
01:41:04,760 --> 01:41:07,840
Speaker 13: said for all of that. So I mean for me

2302
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,080
Speaker 13: to go and say, yeah, Alexa Grosso's wrestling got worse, Like,

2303
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 13: we don't know what played a part in that, but

2304
01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 13: I mean I could tell you for sure, like I

2305
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,679
Speaker 13: have seen fighters where if you don't ever find success

2306
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,240
Speaker 13: in the gym, it's really hard for you to take

2307
01:41:21,320 --> 01:41:23,960
Speaker 13: that and go into a fight and be confident in it,

2308
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 13: and that's when the mentality turns into a big factor

2309
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 13: as well.

2310
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:29,599
Speaker 1: Well.

2311
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:33,759
Speaker 2: Chifchenko, the all time great, the legend, the champion once again,

2312
01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:37,759
Speaker 2: it appears, although we haven't heard that, if I'm planning

2313
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 2: out her future, number two, men On Farroh seems to

2314
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 2: be the most deserving of that next title shot. Do

2315
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,840
Speaker 2: you agree? And how would you see that fight going down?

2316
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:50,280
Speaker 13: You know, I actually was talking about a fight offer

2317
01:41:50,520 --> 01:41:54,160
Speaker 13: against men On, and then I was also told that

2318
01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:55,960
Speaker 13: she does not want to fight unless for the belt.

2319
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 13: So there's a lot of things that are going back

2320
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:01,360
Speaker 13: and forth in that division in with you know, I

2321
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 13: do feel like as far as a fighter who has

2322
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:07,599
Speaker 13: put in the fights and who has beat the people

2323
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:10,479
Speaker 13: she needs to beat and put herself up there, I

2324
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 13: do believe that Manon is the best contender for that

2325
01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,240
Speaker 13: next title shot, you know, and it could be a

2326
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 13: good fight, you know, to see Valentine in her fight

2327
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 13: and then me get to get the winner of that

2328
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 13: or and then see who I get to fight for

2329
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:29,160
Speaker 13: the belt. But I do think that she, like right

2330
01:42:29,240 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 13: now as it stands, is the is the best next

2331
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 13: candidate for the title shot.

2332
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 2: Well, you're currently the number four ranked women's flyway. You're

2333
01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:39,960
Speaker 2: riding a six fight win streak. When you look back

2334
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:42,439
Speaker 2: to the two losses that at the time sort of

2335
01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 2: slowed your momentum when we thought you really were on

2336
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,400
Speaker 2: pace to become the youngest UFC champion, I know that

2337
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,559
Speaker 2: was a big goal of yours. Do you look back

2338
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 2: at those losses though, as a gift and you know

2339
01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:54,080
Speaker 2: that does that work in hindsight?

2340
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:54,320
Speaker 1: Now?

2341
01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 2: Did you grow extensively from that experience? I do?

2342
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:01,280
Speaker 13: You know the things that I've learned, I mean, obvio, like, uh,

2343
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:05,120
Speaker 13: the first loss that I had to be honest, like,

2344
01:43:05,200 --> 01:43:06,639
Speaker 13: I felt like I had one of the best camps

2345
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 13: of my life. I was at the time, I was

2346
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:12,400
Speaker 13: training at Rouf of Sport, and I had a great camp.

2347
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 13: I had an amazing weight cut, and I was super

2348
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 13: confident going into that fight. And I remember actually talking

2349
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 13: to a few people and one of those was actually

2350
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:22,720
Speaker 13: James Krause, and I was like, because I used to

2351
01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 13: ask him a lot of opinions on my fights and

2352
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,560
Speaker 13: matchups and everything, and I asked him and he was like,

2353
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,000
Speaker 13: you know, you you win this fight ten times, ten

2354
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 13: out of ten times. The only time you would ever

2355
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:35,120
Speaker 13: lose this fight is if you had a freak accident

2356
01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 13: and you got injured and you couldn't continue.

2357
01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 15: And that was maybe like an hour before the fight.

2358
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:43,160
Speaker 13: And then I went out and I while I was

2359
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 13: like an hour before I went to the fight, obviously,

2360
01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,720
Speaker 13: I went out and I fought, and I tore my

2361
01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,679
Speaker 13: acl and I think the things that I took away

2362
01:43:51,680 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 13: from that was I showed that no matter what, like

2363
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 13: if I get hurt, if I get obviously severely injured,

2364
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 13: like I'm gonna keep going and I'm gonna keep pushing

2365
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,040
Speaker 13: and I'm not just gonna keep pushing and try to survive.

2366
01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:06,800
Speaker 13: I'm gonna try to keep winning, you know, Like I

2367
01:44:06,880 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 13: feel like I showed a lot of people and my

2368
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,960
Speaker 13: coaches and my own family and like myself, you know,

2369
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 13: like the thing that I have inside me, which is

2370
01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 13: a heart, and coming off of that loss, like it

2371
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:22,759
Speaker 13: was really hard to be sad about Oh I didn't

2372
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:23,240
Speaker 13: do enough.

2373
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:23,560
Speaker 1: You know.

2374
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 13: What I really took away with that, and the sadness

2375
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 13: that I had was damn it, I lost. And I

2376
01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:33,120
Speaker 13: know that I could have won that fight and had

2377
01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:36,600
Speaker 13: circumstances been different. And also I can't fix it for

2378
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:38,559
Speaker 13: a whole nother year, Like I was looking at going

2379
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 13: into a surgery and facing a whole year layoff of

2380
01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 13: like rehabbing an ACL and going through that process with

2381
01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:48,640
Speaker 13: that feeling of like, wow, I really want to just

2382
01:44:49,160 --> 01:44:50,760
Speaker 13: go out there and show like what I know I

2383
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,560
Speaker 13: could have done. And actually when I got offered that,

2384
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 13: like I asked to go and fight her again, and

2385
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,880
Speaker 13: she turned it down. Obviously it was her retirement fight

2386
01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:04,200
Speaker 13: you wanted to win and which actually I don't. I

2387
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:05,800
Speaker 13: don't know if that worked in her favor because she

2388
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 13: fought Casey o'neillen and didn't win. But then when I

2389
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 13: fought Alexa, the thing that I took away from that was,

2390
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:15,800
Speaker 13: you know, obviously I had another loss that I had

2391
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,880
Speaker 13: come off of, and I really learned in that camp

2392
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 13: specifically and in that fight, how important the mentality is,

2393
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:24,360
Speaker 13: how important it is who you have around you, who

2394
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:25,519
Speaker 13: you have coaching you, who you have.

2395
01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 15: Speaking into your life. Because again, no excuses.

2396
01:45:29,720 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 13: When I fought Alexa, like I went in there, if

2397
01:45:32,920 --> 01:45:34,960
Speaker 13: I go into a fight, I know, I'm like, look,

2398
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:36,840
Speaker 13: I'm ready to fight, and I'm I'm gonna fight and

2399
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 13: I'm gonna win.

2400
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 1: However, like she was.

2401
01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 15: Better that day.

2402
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 13: But for me, I learned, you know, the coaching that

2403
01:45:45,439 --> 01:45:47,560
Speaker 13: I had at the time was not the was not

2404
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 13: the camp that I needed to be with. I was

2405
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 13: actually learning a completely different style than what I should

2406
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:55,400
Speaker 13: have learned, and it was not me at all. You know,

2407
01:45:55,640 --> 01:45:57,960
Speaker 13: someone who wanted to be more of a counter fighter,

2408
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 13: and I'm not a counterfighter. I'm a pressure fighter, and

2409
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:02,600
Speaker 13: I'm known for brawls and I'm known for pushing the

2410
01:46:02,680 --> 01:46:04,120
Speaker 13: pace and that's what I feel like. You know, I

2411
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,640
Speaker 13: showed that in the third round when I pushed the

2412
01:46:06,680 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 13: pace and I won that third round from being myself.

2413
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 13: But I really had to get out of that, get

2414
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,719
Speaker 13: out of that other style that I had been working

2415
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,080
Speaker 13: on and trying to like be this person that I wasn't,

2416
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:20,160
Speaker 13: you know, And I dealt a lot with like and

2417
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 13: a lot of external things that I learned. You know,

2418
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 13: you can't let outside factors come into your mentality because

2419
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 13: if you do, it's it's gonna cost you a lot.

2420
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:30,400
Speaker 13: And I lost that fight and that was a bitter

2421
01:46:30,439 --> 01:46:32,479
Speaker 13: taste in my mouth because I truly did lose that fight,

2422
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 13: And even though I won the third round, you know,

2423
01:46:35,240 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 13: I got to learn, you know, I need to be

2424
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 13: who I need to be for me, and when I'm not,

2425
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:41,759
Speaker 13: I have a lot of success.

2426
01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 2: Well, there was some close decision wins to start the

2427
01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:46,519
Speaker 2: six fight win streak. Was there a point where you

2428
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 2: felt like you did fully get your mojo back where

2429
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:51,200
Speaker 2: you were allowed to sort of release the dog again

2430
01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,600
Speaker 2: and you felt comfortable in that dominant attack style that

2431
01:46:54,720 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 2: you that you performed so well.

2432
01:46:56,760 --> 01:46:59,360
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, like I said, coming off of Alexa Grosso,

2433
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,360
Speaker 13: like I had had a different style and I had

2434
01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 13: a lot of external things that I allowed it to

2435
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:08,720
Speaker 13: my life and influence my career. And then I tried

2436
01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,840
Speaker 13: to shift that, you know, I realized in that third

2437
01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:12,719
Speaker 13: round I needed to shift it. And then I carried

2438
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 13: that into the next fight, and the next fight was

2439
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:17,400
Speaker 13: a little bit better, still way closer than I wanted

2440
01:47:17,439 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 13: it to be. Uh The next fight was even just

2441
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:21,400
Speaker 13: just like that, you know, it was a little bit

2442
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 13: better but still close. And I feel like I really

2443
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 13: started to feel that, you know, after after like two

2444
01:47:27,240 --> 01:47:30,840
Speaker 13: fights after that, you know, and then I when I

2445
01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:34,280
Speaker 13: fought Jessica, I when I fought Montana, and then obviously

2446
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 13: when I fought.

2447
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 15: When I fought uh yes, Amanda. When I fought Amanda,

2448
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:42,680
Speaker 15: I felt that a lot.

2449
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 13: You know. I was like, this is me, this is

2450
01:47:45,040 --> 01:47:47,519
Speaker 13: who I was meant to be, this is what God

2451
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:50,360
Speaker 13: created me to do, and like this is like the

2452
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:54,320
Speaker 13: person that I am, and I like finally got to

2453
01:47:54,360 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 13: feel that again. It felt great, you know, and then

2454
01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 13: I got to carry that on into Kaitln. The fight

2455
01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 13: with Kaitlin, and obviously, you know, like the tougher the

2456
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,200
Speaker 13: higher up I go in the division, that the tougher

2457
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,680
Speaker 13: the girls are gonna get. And so I just want

2458
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 13: to make sure that no matter what, like I'm always

2459
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 13: going out there with the actual, the true me, and

2460
01:48:11,640 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 13: the one hundred percent Macy Barber that I have because

2461
01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:18,120
Speaker 13: I believe that when I do that, I'm unstoppable.

2462
01:48:19,479 --> 01:48:21,600
Speaker 1: Let me follow up if I can on Aaron Blanchfield.

2463
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 1: Give me imagine we've never seen her fight before. Give

2464
01:48:25,080 --> 01:48:27,439
Speaker 1: me the Macy Barber scouting report.

2465
01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 15: The scouting report would be she's a solid wrestler and

2466
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 15: grappler and her striking is very low level.

2467
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:49,920
Speaker 13: Uh, she does, but she makes it work for her

2468
01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 13: in certain fights. I would say that she does get

2469
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:57,679
Speaker 13: success in certain fights with it because she's a pressure fighter,

2470
01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:00,600
Speaker 13: very similar to like. She likes the pressure and she

2471
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:03,080
Speaker 13: likes to be aggressive, which is what gets people down

2472
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 13: to the ground. And obviously that's where she has most

2473
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 13: of her success. But if you watch her, like, her

2474
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:11,759
Speaker 13: striking is not it's not clean, she doesn't have good defense,

2475
01:49:12,560 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 13: and against the right fighters, like she's gonna get hurt.

2476
01:49:16,360 --> 01:49:17,920
Speaker 13: You know, we did see that with Man who was

2477
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:21,120
Speaker 13: a good striker. Against a good striker, Aaron Blanchefield is

2478
01:49:21,160 --> 01:49:25,360
Speaker 13: not going to have very much success at all. And

2479
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:27,479
Speaker 13: then also, you know she's just not she's not an

2480
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:29,720
Speaker 13: exciting fighter. She's not someone that you're like, oh, I

2481
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 13: have to watch this fight. You don't see a lot

2482
01:49:32,920 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 13: of brawls with her, You don't see a lot of

2483
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 13: devastating wins. You just see someone who goes out and

2484
01:49:40,080 --> 01:49:43,519
Speaker 13: can win sometimes and has made it pretty far for

2485
01:49:43,600 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 13: herself because of that, you know. But she's not someone

2486
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:48,559
Speaker 13: that's like, oh, this is a devastating fighter.

2487
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,320
Speaker 1: Okay, same exercise, but this time for Menon Fiero.

2488
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 13: For Menona, I would say that she's a very well

2489
01:49:55,800 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 13: rounded fighter. Her striking is is good, she's long, her

2490
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,679
Speaker 13: second is just good. It's it's really good. She's done

2491
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:06,639
Speaker 13: really well with it. I feel like she has more

2492
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 13: success in the stand up and the strikes, which then

2493
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 13: you know, you don't see a whole lot of wrestling

2494
01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,599
Speaker 13: and ground game from her, but her her whole game

2495
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:20,680
Speaker 13: as a whole is well rounded and her technique is

2496
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:25,000
Speaker 13: championship level. However, I feel as though the rest of her,

2497
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:28,600
Speaker 13: because being a champion isn't just about just fighting, like

2498
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 13: you can be a champion and just fight, and to

2499
01:50:31,760 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 13: be honest, you're a boring champion. So she needs she

2500
01:50:35,360 --> 01:50:39,639
Speaker 13: doesn't have like that full well rounded champion of a fighter. However,

2501
01:50:39,720 --> 01:50:41,800
Speaker 13: her fighting style is championship level.

2502
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So then if Chevchenko fights Froh, give me the

2503
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 1: Macy Barber prediction. How how does that one? How does

2504
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 1: that one look? And if you have a strong feeling

2505
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:54,000
Speaker 1: about whom I win, I think.

2506
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:56,840
Speaker 15: Fierro is tough. I honestly could see that going to

2507
01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,920
Speaker 15: a decision. Think like I don't.

2508
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:04,280
Speaker 13: I mean, obviously, we've seen that Valentina has knockout power.

2509
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 13: I don't know if we have seen men on have

2510
01:51:08,120 --> 01:51:09,760
Speaker 13: knockout power. I feel like a lot of her fights

2511
01:51:09,800 --> 01:51:13,840
Speaker 13: have gone to decisions, and so I just think, you

2512
01:51:13,920 --> 01:51:15,560
Speaker 13: know it, but she's also tough, like I don't know

2513
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,439
Speaker 13: if she's been put away too many times either, So

2514
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:21,599
Speaker 13: if someone wants to catch I'm I think it's gonna

2515
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:23,360
Speaker 13: go to a decision. I think Valentina is on her

2516
01:51:23,439 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 13: way out, like I think she's older, and she's just

2517
01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,560
Speaker 13: also not the same fighter that she used to be.

2518
01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:31,720
Speaker 15: She's just kind of getting a little bit old for

2519
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:35,160
Speaker 15: where she's at. So I think it's gonna go to

2520
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:35,719
Speaker 15: the decision.

2521
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:38,200
Speaker 1: Interesting stuff right there.

2522
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 2: How's the Macy Barbara brand doing right now? I see

2523
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 2: you with a lot of different sponsorships. I see you

2524
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:46,760
Speaker 2: on some you know, viral crossovers with Demi Bag Beyond

2525
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,479
Speaker 2: the Internet. How's life as Macy barber these days?

2526
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 13: It's great, you know, I'm honestly, I'm trying to maximize

2527
01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,880
Speaker 13: and take advantage of this off time, you know, like

2528
01:51:56,600 --> 01:51:59,439
Speaker 13: whenever I'm out, whenever I'm not able to fight. Obviously,

2529
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:01,559
Speaker 13: the number one thing is I want to be back

2530
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:03,720
Speaker 13: in the gym and I want to be training when

2531
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:06,560
Speaker 13: I'm not able to do that. I know that I

2532
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:09,880
Speaker 13: have to be as proactive as possible because this career

2533
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:10,879
Speaker 13: is very short.

2534
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 15: And I need to build it up.

2535
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 13: So I want people to want to watch, I want

2536
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:20,599
Speaker 13: people to pay want to pay attention. So I've tried

2537
01:52:20,640 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 13: to do everything I can to stay busy and to

2538
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:26,400
Speaker 13: create lifelong partnerships that aren't just gonna be with me

2539
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:28,160
Speaker 13: through my fighting career, but are gonna be with me

2540
01:52:28,280 --> 01:52:32,840
Speaker 13: through life and through that. I have met Demi and

2541
01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:37,880
Speaker 13: she has been amazing. She's helped me a lot, and

2542
01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 13: she's doing great things and I'm doing great things. So

2543
01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 13: for us to come together and collab has been really incredible.

2544
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 13: So yeah, I mean, honestly, Macy barbera is blessed and

2545
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 13: looking forward to the future.

2546
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:53,640
Speaker 2: All right, if ill and this is injuries, time off.

2547
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,960
Speaker 2: All that's behind us. Let's close with this map out

2548
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,800
Speaker 2: a perfect twenty twenty five for us. How does Macy

2549
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,080
Speaker 2: Barber go from the number four war raking to where

2550
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 2: your goal has always been championship level?

2551
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:03,800
Speaker 3: Here?

2552
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 13: Ah, the perfect hat. If I was to have every

2553
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 13: fight that I would want right now. I mean, obviously

2554
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 13: I talked about having a five with men On. I

2555
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:16,559
Speaker 13: would love to have at least one fight to come

2556
01:53:16,680 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 13: back obviously off my layoff, and then I want the belt.

2557
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:21,680
Speaker 13: I want to have the belt by the end of

2558
01:53:21,720 --> 01:53:22,439
Speaker 13: twenty twenty five.

2559
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:27,040
Speaker 1: Oh, there it is. Speak what does it speak? Receiving?

2560
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 13: I don't want to have the belt.

2561
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 15: I'm going to have that.

2562
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is.

2563
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 2: There it is Macy Barber in the house. We appreciate

2564
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,320
Speaker 2: your time so much. Best of luck getting back out

2565
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:37,240
Speaker 2: there into the cage. We're looking forward to it.

2566
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:38,960
Speaker 15: Thank you guys.

2567
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: Good stuff right there, you're.

2568
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 2: The number four Women's Flyway contender, Macy Barber. Luke, there's

2569
01:53:45,400 --> 01:53:47,559
Speaker 2: only one other thing we have to do to close

2570
01:53:47,640 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 2: the show.

2571
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:50,840
Speaker 1: BC's feast. I mean, I feel, I mean, I.

2572
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 2: Should have apologized again to Macy that we transitioned her

2573
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 2: in on a feces conversation.

2574
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:57,639
Speaker 1: Right, listen, you came on Morning Combats.

2575
01:53:57,680 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 2: I bet you're like, like the quality control was on

2576
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 2: you in that regard. I scoured the globe, the internet

2577
01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:05,639
Speaker 2: actually yesterday.

2578
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 1: You know what I do on Sundays, Right, That's what

2579
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:07,439
Speaker 1: I do.

2580
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:09,439
Speaker 2: I've got the highs and lows, the good, the bad,

2581
01:54:09,439 --> 01:54:11,880
Speaker 2: the ugly, the in between, people getting hurd Hey, it's

2582
01:54:12,160 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 2: have you.

2583
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:22,600
Speaker 1: Seen this shit hood? Here we go?

2584
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 13: Hey.

2585
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 2: UFC three to ten was in Las Vegas this weekend

2586
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:29,080
Speaker 2: and Luke Shafcott literally tore Ian machadlegary a new ass.

2587
01:54:29,160 --> 01:54:31,760
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen this wardrobe malfunction before? Did that

2588
01:54:31,880 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 2: come from the cage?

2589
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell I know. I think

2590
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: he talked about it. I missed it, but yeah, it

2591
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,560
Speaker 1: was strange. That was strange. There you go with that.

2592
01:54:40,080 --> 01:54:42,640
Speaker 2: Connor McGregor. Luke was you know, he hasn't been in

2593
01:54:42,720 --> 01:54:45,000
Speaker 2: the news for good reasons, but he put out a

2594
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 2: audio reaction to Bala Muhammad and the face off with

2595
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:55,560
Speaker 2: shaff Cut. This security doesn't know he's a jump Look, god,

2596
01:54:56,040 --> 01:55:00,040
Speaker 2: stay it is called the security does now he's the champ. No,

2597
01:55:00,680 --> 01:55:05,360
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. Motherfuck up? Oh may he is an

2598
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:08,480
Speaker 2: ashole I d I'm a fan of he was.

2599
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:11,520
Speaker 1: We can go get it.

2600
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if you were a pr for him, would

2601
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 2: you be?

2602
01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 14: Uh?

2603
01:55:15,200 --> 01:55:17,360
Speaker 1: His his attorney's had to deal with some of the

2604
01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,200
Speaker 1: stuff he posted about the try afterwards. Judge didn't rule yet,

2605
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 1: but they might hold him in contempt for it.

2606
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 2: All right, we mentioned Alexander Volkov had the same hair

2607
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:25,480
Speaker 2: of any nineteen year old girl who went to the

2608
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 2: Caribbean for the first time. Look, h wow, this was

2609
01:55:28,640 --> 01:55:29,120
Speaker 2: a decision.

2610
01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 1: I like how you put your own tweets in have

2611
01:55:31,320 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 1: you seen this ship?

2612
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,440
Speaker 2: But you're saying that check MAJORI style.

2613
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 1: It's a good point. He did the old check majory. Uh,

2614
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:42,240
Speaker 1: he looks like the worst thing I've ever seen.

2615
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying he actually deserves the loss based

2616
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:46,040
Speaker 2: on the hair.

2617
01:55:46,160 --> 01:55:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm not going that far. But it's like I get

2618
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,000
Speaker 1: that they got they do the corner road thing because

2619
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:52,800
Speaker 1: it's functional, right, he keeps the hair out of your face.

2620
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 2: Yes, he used to Comba's hair in the corner is

2621
01:55:56,160 --> 01:55:56,680
Speaker 2: better than that.

2622
01:55:56,840 --> 01:56:00,760
Speaker 1: But then you just end up looking like Malibu's most Yeah. Yeah,

2623
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:01,160
Speaker 1: there you go.

2624
01:56:01,920 --> 01:56:05,400
Speaker 2: Nate Diaz was back through his cornering of Chrone Gracie,

2625
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 2: which meant, what is Nate Diaz do? He gets into

2626
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 2: water bottle throwing wars backstage, this time with Islam. Is

2627
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 2: this planning seeds?

2628
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:23,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we're all above thirty and out heading towards

2629
01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:25,880
Speaker 1: forty in certain some of these cases. What are we

2630
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 1: doing here?

2631
01:56:26,600 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 2: This is planning a seed for him to get a

2632
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:28,880
Speaker 2: lightweight title shot.

2633
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:32,280
Speaker 1: That's what it is. I can't say no to that,

2634
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: But do you make lightweight one more time for a

2635
01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: title fight? Probably could? Okay, that's interesting. I'm also a

2636
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:39,480
Speaker 1: little over the bottle throwing.

2637
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:43,280
Speaker 2: Speaking of Chrome Gracie, you know who sent him to hell?

2638
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:46,480
Speaker 2: On Twitter, saysar Gracie Caesar.

2639
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:50,360
Speaker 1: Never a good idea to pull guard in MMA like that? Never?

2640
01:56:51,640 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 13: Right?

2641
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to talk about a guy who? I mean,

2642
01:56:54,320 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 1: I believe Gracie's best win Krone is over Tessuya Kawajiri,

2643
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 1: which is like a really good win. I don't know

2644
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:03,800
Speaker 1: what I mean, dude, I like you realize, like there's

2645
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,560
Speaker 1: Niemon Gracie still out there, but like with the exception

2646
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:08,440
Speaker 1: of him and Crone, like the Gracies are done as

2647
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:12,240
Speaker 1: a fighting said, he's a gray sie. He's a grasie.

2648
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 1: I'll better put some respect on that grin.

2649
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm Bryce Mitchell's back with me. I'm back with Bryce Mitchell.

2650
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:19,720
Speaker 1: He's a loon, but a very good fight.

2651
01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 2: Could we get him on the show.

2652
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 1: I would only do it in studio.

2653
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 2: Rice, if you're listening out there, he's friends with Big

2654
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 2: Tuna Ben Parrish, My guy.

2655
01:57:27,160 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 1: Oh, we do like Ben Parrish. We should get big

2656
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,760
Speaker 1: for both of them. Oh my god, so much Arkansas.

2657
01:57:32,000 --> 01:57:33,880
Speaker 1: You'll tell me milk and steak? How about that?

2658
01:57:34,240 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 2: Nina Drama asked Asakura a dumb question and got a

2659
01:57:37,640 --> 01:57:38,320
Speaker 2: inappropriate answer.

2660
01:57:38,360 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 1: Are you ready?

2661
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:40,920
Speaker 3: What's the first thing you washed in the shower?

2662
01:57:41,440 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

2663
01:57:48,640 --> 01:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right. Uh Luke, we talked about it's

2664
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 2: the first thing you washed in the shower. I guess

2665
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:56,760
Speaker 2: I've never thought about that. My face, My face is

2666
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:57,080
Speaker 2: the first.

2667
01:57:57,960 --> 01:58:02,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, with your ass, also, Luke.

2668
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,960
Speaker 2: UFC three eleven, we got fired up for armand Serrukian

2669
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 2: was in Las Vegas to do the press conference for

2670
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:10,720
Speaker 2: the rematch with Islamachev, and he was also there to

2671
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 2: do one final meal before training camp.

2672
01:58:12,800 --> 01:58:20,280
Speaker 1: Did you see this tomorrow? God, that's savage right there?

2673
01:58:24,120 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 1: You think he ate the whole thing? I would say

2674
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,040
Speaker 1: the meal is a little excessive.

2675
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:32,200
Speaker 2: Would you dip your paylote in that sauce right there

2676
01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 2: after he did, Yes.

2677
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 1: I would dip my pet.

2678
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:38,320
Speaker 2: Would you say he's your currently your third favorite fighter

2679
01:58:38,440 --> 01:58:39,600
Speaker 2: due to his Armenian background?

2680
01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 1: Probably? Okay? I mean I'm going to grade him on

2681
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 1: a curve every time.

2682
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:46,240
Speaker 2: You're not worried about him not making weight after this feast?

2683
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:48,000
Speaker 1: No, this fiesta? All right?

2684
01:58:48,040 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 2: Weird couple days from Rob devalisheey right, weird couple days.

2685
01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 1: He brings it on himself, all right.

2686
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 2: He nearly came to blows with Umar backstage once again.

2687
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:05,160
Speaker 2: What I said, why is this?

2688
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 6: Why this respect?

2689
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:08,920
Speaker 1: Like the heat between them?

2690
01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:09,280
Speaker 13: I like it?

2691
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:09,760
Speaker 6: Come here?

2692
01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, dude, everywhere Morob goes, he's getting into confrontations.

2693
01:59:16,360 --> 01:59:19,480
Speaker 1: The confrontation isn't following him. He's bringing the content.

2694
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 2: Well, then, at the actual pressor him and Umar sounded

2695
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,440
Speaker 2: like divorce beaches, didn't they?

2696
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:25,600
Speaker 1: It was interesting.

2697
01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:26,200
Speaker 2: I kind of liked it.

2698
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:27,920
Speaker 1: Let's listen, I don't care about you.

2699
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:34,040
Speaker 3: Listen talking personally, okay, for you, I was always respectful

2700
01:59:34,120 --> 01:59:35,240
Speaker 3: for you, Okay, I.

2701
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 14: Said about your country, about.

2702
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:40,200
Speaker 1: You, about your personal what I said?

2703
01:59:40,440 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 13: Nothing?

2704
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 1: What I said interesting between the two of them. Have

2705
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:55,920
Speaker 1: an update from Danny Rue shot cut rock model. Please.

2706
01:59:56,120 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: All he is committing to is saying that they are

2707
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 1: sure of the extent and they're going to get an

2708
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 1: MRI this week. Good move, let's get that going.

2709
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,640
Speaker 2: Also, Luke Morob did did or a zinger back at

2710
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:09,080
Speaker 2: Umar during the press or did you see this?

2711
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:10,520
Speaker 1: Umar?

2712
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 2: You and Islam have shared so many memories together.

2713
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 3: I want to know what's your best moment with him

2714
02:00:17,560 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 3: about Jauzi?

2715
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:23,600
Speaker 1: Focus on?

2716
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 8: Focus on the fight?

2717
02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:28,600
Speaker 3: Okay, don't you don't?

2718
02:00:29,560 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 1: What do you think about Islam closing it with like,

2719
02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:34,480
Speaker 1: what's like, what do you say about the belt? Put

2720
02:00:34,520 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 1: some respect on it? Yeah, like act like a champion basically, Yeah,

2721
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:38,600
Speaker 1: I agree. Okay.

2722
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:42,160
Speaker 2: Well, then Morab after cornering Al Joe as he was

2723
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:45,440
Speaker 2: walking out, a fan aggressively grabbed Morob's arm and it

2724
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,560
Speaker 2: started this sequence which led to one of his teammates

2725
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 2: throwing punches with the guy. Ah turns out, and Morob

2726
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 2: would tweet this out that that guy is a regular

2727
02:00:54,280 --> 02:00:55,400
Speaker 2: in the Dagistan camps.

2728
02:00:55,520 --> 02:00:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah he is, so he was a plant yeah, it

2729
02:00:57,480 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Once again, it is not hard to not

2730
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:03,080
Speaker 1: get into a fist fight in public. Actually, for the

2731
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:05,320
Speaker 1: most part, not always, but it's for the most part

2732
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 1: very easy to not get into a fist fight.

2733
02:01:07,840 --> 02:01:09,800
Speaker 2: Is it easy to get on a scooter and not fall?

2734
02:01:10,720 --> 02:01:13,440
Speaker 1: Once again, context is important here. What are they white?

2735
02:01:13,520 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 3: Is that the question?

2736
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:16,440
Speaker 1: Well? Are they eight hundred pounds? Find out?

2737
02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 2: Oh, this is a skateboard?

2738
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:21,200
Speaker 1: Sorry, bother, he's gonna bust his teeth? Right, let's see.

2739
02:01:22,040 --> 02:01:25,560
Speaker 1: Oh he's pulling, not wearing a helmet? You fucking oh bo?

2740
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:26,560
Speaker 16: Yeah?

2741
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:34,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, look at them titties just crashing?

2742
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 2: Can I lingis?

2743
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 11: Yes?

2744
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:38,080
Speaker 1: He can't?

2745
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:38,840
Speaker 13: He die?

2746
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:40,600
Speaker 1: He was crushed by a giant set of.

2747
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:45,120
Speaker 2: I think he accidentally got sent to Poundtown. You agree,

2748
02:01:45,200 --> 02:01:46,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to the next clip.

2749
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:51,080
Speaker 16: Yeah, one way ticket to Poundtown of the gunner. I

2750
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,640
Speaker 16: went to Poundtown today. I went to Poundtown on the

2751
02:01:54,080 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 16: Poundtown on dir a double take, passing by this bait

2752
02:02:02,120 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 16: and tackle shop.

2753
02:02:03,280 --> 02:02:03,960
Speaker 15: There are some.

2754
02:02:04,160 --> 02:02:06,520
Speaker 16: Social media posts that maybe are taking at the wrong way.

2755
02:02:06,640 --> 02:02:08,720
Speaker 16: Maybe they their mind all the gutter. I don't know

2756
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:13,480
Speaker 16: what's but there is an innocent at all. We used

2757
02:02:13,480 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 16: to always say, oh, we're going to poundtown. You're pounding

2758
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:18,640
Speaker 16: the jigs off the bottom. You're pounding the fish.

2759
02:02:19,880 --> 02:02:21,320
Speaker 14: For anyone who might be.

2760
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you've pounded a couple of tortimes in your life.

2761
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:26,840
Speaker 6: Huh.

2762
02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:29,400
Speaker 2: All right, Luke, let's keep it going. You love when

2763
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:30,880
Speaker 2: people film themselves at the gym?

2764
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:42,000
Speaker 1: You love it? I hate it? Oh dude, you can

2765
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 1: cause real damage doing that.

2766
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:45,720
Speaker 2: Oh you can also cause damage doing this in the

2767
02:02:45,760 --> 02:02:55,040
Speaker 2: layup line. Watch oh clean up on? Uh, yeah, we're

2768
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:58,760
Speaker 2: not playing today when that happens. Good lord, wow, okay, uh,

2769
02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:01,200
Speaker 2: let's go to the Chris Cat Luke, this is what

2770
02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 2: this is how Reggie Jackson acts, and he has no remorse.

2771
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:14,200
Speaker 2: I did that guy have a coming for the How

2772
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:15,960
Speaker 2: over the top that reaction was?

2773
02:03:16,080 --> 02:03:19,400
Speaker 1: You bring those animals into the house. You know you

2774
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:20,760
Speaker 1: need to know what time it is? All right?

2775
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 2: New segment alert. This one's called would you eat it?

2776
02:03:23,160 --> 02:03:23,880
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Luke?

2777
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,720
Speaker 2: This one's called a burger dog? Would you eat it?

2778
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:31,520
Speaker 1: So far? Yes? Brilliant? Right?

2779
02:03:32,480 --> 02:03:34,440
Speaker 2: Why we could have we never thought about this?

2780
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure I'd eat that.

2781
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Longland, Luke, automatic that later.

2782
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:44,240
Speaker 1: It's a little like circular meat loaf. But yes, Okay,

2783
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:46,040
Speaker 1: what about this too, combo meal? Would you eat this?

2784
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:51,360
Speaker 1: Call me a veterinary assistant. The way I'm about to

2785
02:03:51,440 --> 02:03:52,360
Speaker 1: put a couple of dogs.

2786
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:55,920
Speaker 2: Shout out to market basket with the two dog and

2787
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:59,840
Speaker 2: fried deal for two ninety nine. All right, now, let's

2788
02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 2: go to the UH food competition. All you can eat here,

2789
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 2: the choice made or drinket. And then well, this is

2790
02:04:06,920 --> 02:04:09,800
Speaker 2: the this is tonight, this is take it far left you.

2791
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 1: He's not giving up. Look at this and said the

2792
02:04:13,200 --> 02:04:19,240
Speaker 1: heck with beard. Look at the contest of nothing but whites.

2793
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:23,640
Speaker 2: All right, let's go over to grandma. She's got to

2794
02:04:23,680 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 2: get her SIGs.

2795
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:31,800
Speaker 14: Yep, Granny, that's just a new cigarette to spencer, and

2796
02:04:31,880 --> 02:04:37,960
Speaker 14: then we catch it. Hold the bottom, hold the bottom.

2797
02:04:38,040 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 14: That where's meet? Yeah, and I left hard. Oh my god,

2798
02:04:43,080 --> 02:04:44,160
Speaker 14: Oh you had a nice one.

2799
02:04:46,080 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 2: All right, Oh this is easy.

2800
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:55,680
Speaker 1: Oh I need cigarettes so day long, now, all day long.

2801
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 2: Every grandmother of my tongue growing up, someone needs to

2802
02:04:59,680 --> 02:05:03,640
Speaker 2: use in. Okay, all right, uh luke, is this how

2803
02:05:03,680 --> 02:05:06,720
Speaker 2: you're gonna celebrate sarr Yuki in becoming UFC lightweight Champion?

2804
02:05:11,640 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna call that green firearm sacred.

2805
02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:19,080
Speaker 2: Different cultures look different standards.

2806
02:05:19,120 --> 02:05:22,200
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I mean I'm not sure this is

2807
02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:25,960
Speaker 1: a I don't know what's happening here that they're not

2808
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:28,120
Speaker 1: all tackling him and then beating him within an inch

2809
02:05:28,160 --> 02:05:28,560
Speaker 1: of his life.

2810
02:05:28,920 --> 02:05:30,960
Speaker 2: All right, I mean there's children around.

2811
02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:31,520
Speaker 1: That's wild.

2812
02:05:31,600 --> 02:05:33,360
Speaker 2: Hey, let's go over to this weekend in boxing and

2813
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:36,720
Speaker 2: the BKFC, Luke Justin Watson said a new combat sports

2814
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:39,760
Speaker 2: record with a two seconds koop.

2815
02:05:40,200 --> 02:05:44,040
Speaker 1: Take that it's over with right face first, damn with

2816
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:45,080
Speaker 1: your butt in the air.

2817
02:05:45,800 --> 02:05:48,560
Speaker 2: Also unto his own main event, Richardson Hitchins took a

2818
02:05:48,640 --> 02:05:51,640
Speaker 2: split decision from leam Paro in Puerto Rico to win

2819
02:05:51,720 --> 02:05:53,480
Speaker 2: a one hundred and forty pound title and then found

2820
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:54,440
Speaker 2: out he wasn't the father.

2821
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:56,080
Speaker 1: No, that was the joke for this sweet I took it.

2822
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:58,880
Speaker 2: But look, it was a very aggressive celebration and I'm

2823
02:05:58,880 --> 02:05:59,200
Speaker 2: here for it.

2824
02:05:59,200 --> 02:06:01,440
Speaker 1: Shout out to Richard's good for having world champion. And

2825
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:03,000
Speaker 1: he was calling people out on Twitter too. I saw

2826
02:06:03,080 --> 02:06:03,680
Speaker 1: that afterwards.

2827
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 2: Indeed, let's go over to Manuel Navarette arriving to the

2828
02:06:07,200 --> 02:06:10,760
Speaker 2: arena in classic style as all the fighters.

2829
02:06:10,360 --> 02:06:12,840
Speaker 1: In the main and Comaine did in this one in Phoenix.

2830
02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:14,920
Speaker 1: Look at that I don't know much about this kind

2831
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:17,760
Speaker 1: of color culture, but I do like that car. Oh yeah,

2832
02:06:19,640 --> 02:06:21,400
Speaker 1: with the hydraulics. That's what I'm talking about. This is

2833
02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:23,560
Speaker 1: what the gangster rappers would do in the nineties videos.

2834
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:24,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about.

2835
02:06:24,640 --> 02:06:27,400
Speaker 2: Love it Navarette, Oh yeah. He would then go into

2836
02:06:27,440 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 2: the ring and score three knockdowns to finish Oscar Valdez.

2837
02:06:30,680 --> 02:06:33,320
Speaker 2: In the rematch with somewhat easy. You would say this

2838
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:35,080
Speaker 2: was a left hook to the body to finish it.

2839
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 2: Oho tough to see Valdez, the great Warrior just kind

2840
02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 2: of run out of steam there get overwhelmed. He definitely

2841
02:06:44,760 --> 02:06:48,600
Speaker 2: definitely did, so did Robes Ramirez. Although now people might

2842
02:06:48,640 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 2: be changing.

2843
02:06:49,040 --> 02:06:51,120
Speaker 1: Their stories, they were murdering.

2844
02:06:51,200 --> 02:06:53,440
Speaker 2: They were murdering him when we have the footage against

2845
02:06:53,480 --> 02:06:56,360
Speaker 2: Raphael Espinoza. This was a rematch of that incredible upset

2846
02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:57,240
Speaker 2: from last December.

2847
02:06:57,400 --> 02:06:58,640
Speaker 1: He just says I'm done. He no.

2848
02:06:58,840 --> 02:07:01,840
Speaker 2: Most people were written Bradley Joe Tess was aggressive on

2849
02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:05,400
Speaker 2: the on the announcing it would turn out. Karl Mridy

2850
02:07:05,400 --> 02:07:07,200
Speaker 2: of Top Rank would report that it was a broken.

2851
02:07:07,000 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 1: Orbital and not just a broken orbital on the outside.

2852
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:12,800
Speaker 1: On the inside of the interocular pressure so.

2853
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:15,440
Speaker 2: That's that's tough loss for for Robasi. Who remember when

2854
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:19,320
Speaker 2: two Olympic oldn get that from Cuba. Also, we have

2855
02:07:19,920 --> 02:07:20,440
Speaker 2: a new game.

2856
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:21,080
Speaker 1: Let's watch this.

2857
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:23,640
Speaker 13: My name William and Barry, and today we're gonna see

2858
02:07:23,680 --> 02:07:25,600
Speaker 13: how many eggs I could take this stet without hurting.

2859
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 1: Wish that should have been our Okay, bet payoff. He

2860
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 1: is jacked for an absolute moron. Yeah, probably is going

2861
02:07:36,840 --> 02:07:39,440
Speaker 1: to get a Darwin Award before as his method of dying.

2862
02:07:39,640 --> 02:07:41,240
Speaker 2: Look, I don't have elder abuse, but I do have

2863
02:07:41,320 --> 02:07:41,960
Speaker 2: some child abuse.

2864
02:07:42,000 --> 02:07:44,480
Speaker 1: You don't. I'm a little I'm less high on that.

2865
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:45,960
Speaker 1: All right, let's see if you like these.

2866
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:57,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, okay, let's go over to the boxing ring.

2867
02:07:57,480 --> 02:08:09,080
Speaker 2: I mean this gentleman's house. Okay, I mean we try

2868
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:10,240
Speaker 2: to be all ages.

2869
02:08:10,280 --> 02:08:12,960
Speaker 1: We try to welcome based on who their father is.

2870
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm guessing that they weren't headed for mathematics PhDs. You

2871
02:08:15,840 --> 02:08:16,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

2872
02:08:16,440 --> 02:08:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it can be dangerous sports. So can be

2873
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:26,080
Speaker 2: taking a picture on a beautiful bench, get in that water.

2874
02:08:27,360 --> 02:08:31,120
Speaker 2: That bench was a swing luke, and they didn't realize

2875
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:31,560
Speaker 2: it somehow.

2876
02:08:31,640 --> 02:08:32,000
Speaker 14: There you go.

2877
02:08:32,160 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 2: Okay, a couple more for you. Let's head to church.

2878
02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:50,080
Speaker 2: You gotta be careful, watch your step. Next up hell luke? Wow, okay,

2879
02:08:51,240 --> 02:08:53,360
Speaker 2: oh boy, I don't know how to set this one up.

2880
02:08:53,400 --> 02:08:55,240
Speaker 2: Oh running of the bulls. You gotta be careful. You

2881
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:57,920
Speaker 2: can get gord. Okay, you could also lose your pants.

2882
02:08:57,960 --> 02:08:58,840
Speaker 2: You gotta really watch it.

2883
02:09:00,040 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 1: Oh we did have elder abuse. Sorry about that. Oh

2884
02:09:03,120 --> 02:09:03,520
Speaker 1: here we go.

2885
02:09:03,880 --> 02:09:06,640
Speaker 2: Oh boy, this this asshole just getting good I have.

2886
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's something I don't feel bad for these guys.

2887
02:09:10,240 --> 02:09:12,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it really turns ugly.

2888
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh it's getting ugly now I see full crack.

2889
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:17,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it tig ticket pants off. Bitch, it

2890
02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:18,680
Speaker 1: will be my prison bitch.

2891
02:09:19,680 --> 02:09:22,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow, do you see that guy just asked ass

2892
02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:22,960
Speaker 2: lists there?

2893
02:09:23,080 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 1: Wow, that's great stuff.

2894
02:09:24,320 --> 02:09:25,440
Speaker 2: Okay, I got one more.

2895
02:09:28,000 --> 02:09:30,280
Speaker 1: Remember he walked her. I loved you, my son. Yes,

2896
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:31,960
Speaker 1: they turned around. It's like it's just a big old

2897
02:09:32,000 --> 02:09:32,480
Speaker 1: mic eyes And.

2898
02:09:32,560 --> 02:09:33,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I got one more for you.

2899
02:09:34,000 --> 02:09:35,720
Speaker 1: Okay, who am I here with today? Steve?

2900
02:09:36,120 --> 02:09:37,480
Speaker 3: Steve, what would you say the best day of your

2901
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:37,920
Speaker 3: life for us?

2902
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:44,640
Speaker 1: Probably when I have my first child. And what made

2903
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 1: that be so special? Well, you know, just being a parent.

2904
02:09:48,360 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 2: Come on, man, all right, Maybe I love the ball.

2905
02:09:52,880 --> 02:09:54,560
Speaker 2: This was for me that Sorry, that's all the ship

2906
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 2: I have this week.

2907
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:58,160
Speaker 1: If you ended that clip with him being shot, yes,

2908
02:09:58,240 --> 02:09:59,400
Speaker 1: that would have been better for you. I would have

2909
02:09:59,560 --> 02:10:00,880
Speaker 1: much prefer I heard that, all right.

2910
02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:03,400
Speaker 2: Maybe this shit, you know, you throw it out the wall,

2911
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:05,400
Speaker 2: you see if it sticks, you know it slipped it.

2912
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:07,120
Speaker 1: There's definitely some good one. It was a good guy

2913
02:10:07,200 --> 02:10:09,840
Speaker 1: who fell into hell at church was a good one.

2914
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:11,720
Speaker 2: Oh that's all the shit we got this week. But

2915
02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:14,800
Speaker 2: don't forget Morning Coombat at gmail dot com is your

2916
02:10:14,840 --> 02:10:18,920
Speaker 2: email just for Friday show Dead Wrong fan subs. You

2917
02:10:19,000 --> 02:10:21,840
Speaker 2: can email the show. Let your voice be heard. Just

2918
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 2: don't send any stick picks to Mikey anymore.

2919
02:10:24,120 --> 02:10:26,920
Speaker 1: Send them all of your buttthole piics. Thank you very much.

2920
02:10:27,240 --> 02:10:29,400
Speaker 2: That's the show for today. How would you grade the

2921
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:29,960
Speaker 2: show like.

2922
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 1: It was efficient? Did an efficient job? Yeah? Macy Barbera

2923
02:10:33,720 --> 02:10:35,360
Speaker 1: in the house, Macy Barbara in the house. I did

2924
02:10:35,440 --> 02:10:37,000
Speaker 1: not want to get up at four thirty this morning

2925
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:38,640
Speaker 1: when I got out. No, I got up at four

2926
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:40,760
Speaker 1: twenty two, and it was not fun. It was cool.

2927
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:42,920
Speaker 1: It was so cold. I was just not feeling it. Yeah,

2928
02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:44,800
Speaker 1: but you know that's that's the commitment we give to

2929
02:10:44,920 --> 02:10:47,680
Speaker 1: this game because we live and breathe this, love this shit.

2930
02:10:48,480 --> 02:10:52,920
Speaker 2: And this year's almost over. What a crazy, difficult, ridiculous year.

2931
02:10:53,000 --> 02:10:55,520
Speaker 2: But you know, no, Cito, would you agree? I mean,

2932
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:57,720
Speaker 2: there's nowhere to go but from here, but up twenty

2933
02:10:57,760 --> 02:10:59,760
Speaker 2: five is going to be a slam dunk. It's going

2934
02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:00,800
Speaker 2: to be the best year of our lives.

2935
02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:02,880
Speaker 3: We're going to the top, baby, you hear that?

2936
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:04,480
Speaker 1: Hear that? Yeah, I don't believe that.

2937
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:10,360
Speaker 2: All right, that's the show. You can follow us and

2938
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:12,960
Speaker 2: like us and subscribe to us please, as well as

2939
02:11:13,000 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 2: our YouTube channels right over there.

2940
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:16,160
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

2941
02:11:16,440 --> 02:11:19,520
Speaker 2: Also the main card minute starring Luke Nocita and Gaff Pierre.

2942
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:23,640
Speaker 2: It's just it's a slantastic event going on. Anything else

2943
02:11:23,640 --> 02:11:25,120
Speaker 2: you want to say, We'll be back Friday, of course,

2944
02:11:25,160 --> 02:11:27,440
Speaker 2: eleven a m. Eastern time to set the state. What's

2945
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 2: going on this weekend in combat sports?

2946
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:34,400
Speaker 1: Anything, isn't it? When twenty first? Oh, I think this

2947
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:39,080
Speaker 1: weekend is there's a couple a couple of fights on

2948
02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:41,320
Speaker 1: halfway decent. Yep.

2949
02:11:41,360 --> 02:11:43,280
Speaker 2: All right, well we'll be back to do some weird

2950
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:43,960
Speaker 2: stuff on Friday.

2951
02:11:44,000 --> 02:11:45,520
Speaker 1: Then that's all. I got for you this week. Okay,

2952
02:11:45,560 --> 02:11:47,760
Speaker 1: that's it, that's it, I'm gonna that's it. I'm done,

2953
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:50,240
Speaker 1: all right. May all of your gains be loyal.